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Jesus Christ, that nigga Sephiroth doesn't fuck around

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Jesus Christ, that nigga Sephiroth doesn't fuck around
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>>379619760
How did he even do this?
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>>379619760
You can do basically the same thing once you're high enough level.
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>>379619847
The materia is called Spike.
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Rename everyone Sephiroth.
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>>379619760
it was jenovas clone that looked like sephirot. you only interract with sephirot at the end
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>>379619760
what if i told you sephiroth didnt do this?
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ffvii's plot is retarded
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>>379619760
Sephiroth the shish kebab maniac
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>>379619760
Except he just ends up being an oedipean faggot with hair-thin motivations and idiotic teen angst to rival Squall's (even though he's supposed to be an adult).
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so is there more than one snake is it supposed to be the same snake?
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>>379620449
Yeah, they're just a type of monster.
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>>379620373
Only if you're retarded yourself.
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>>379620421
>idiotic teen angst to rival Squall's

Squall winds up with some serious shit on his shoulders, though.
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>>379620523
Not an argument
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>tfw my friend is gonna name her daughter Aeris
Wat do/v/? Won't she get bullied for the entirety of her childhood? Or is this acceptable socially?
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>>379619760
>tfw stupid and didn't knew that you are supposed to use a chocobo to avoid the snake
>tfw I managed to avoid it by getting used to its movement speed/pattern and running as soon as it touched a certain spot on the corner of the area (plus a bit of luck)
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>>379620523
>no u
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>>379620737
Just stab her by her back.
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>>379620449

There's unlimited giant sneks in that swamp. On that note, the skewered Midgar Zolom is found just beyond the swamp, so Seph the absolute madman must have dragged its' massive corpse over there and then pierced it on the tree.
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>>379620737
Most kids these days will not have played FF7. So I doubt anything will happen. at least, until the remake comes out.
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>>379620737
You know what to do
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>>379620706
Yeah, bad things happened to him and he got sad and annoying. He wasn't interesting at all.

Sephiroth, on the other, didn't even have anything particularly bad happening to him. It's not like finding out about mako infusion undermined his identity in any way, considering said identity was "I'm a super soldier, best at what I do". All he found out that he literally is a supersoldier and likely by far the best at what he does in all history. And it made him burn down a city and want to destroy humankind for some arbitrary reason. It's dumb as fuck.
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>>379620872
I understood that reference, heh. Nice one, fellow gamer. Only #gamers will understand that one.
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>>379620909
I think it's more likely it left the swamp to go hunting and tried to fuck with Sephiroth.
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>>379620976
Why are you so fucking dense?
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>>379621000
The cake is a lie ;^)
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>>379620737
FF7 nowadays is that kind of game that is often praised by people that actually never played it. Kinda like Planet Escape Tournament.
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Sephiroth was a tool of Mojo, Mojo's predecessor, Shinra and Jenova. Pretty lackluster villain.
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>>379621059
Sure, I'm probably just too stupid to understand the complexities of the plot of a Squaresoft game. Those things are really deep. Oh wait, no, they all read like 13-year-olds wrote them.
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>>379620385
Nothin' personal
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>>379620737
Middle name, I hope? It would be a shitty move to bestow that as a given name.
At least they're not going full retard and calling her Aerith.
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>>379620234
Spoilers, man! Fuck!
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>>379621297
>>379621297
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>>379619950

Yeah, and the level is only like level 30 or something. If you ever decide to come back to grab beta from him and you're more than like level 35, you just one shot him.

Most annoying part about fighting him low level is when he tail whips one of your party members away.
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>>379621104
I used to think the cake was a lie, then I took an arrow to the knee! ;) That's a tough one, hope you get the series I'm referencing!
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>>379621140

>Planet Escape Tournament

I don't know why I chuckled.
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Does Sephiroth looks like Abbacchio or does Abbacchio looks like Sephiroth? This is important.
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>>379620791

>didn't even know about the snake the first time
>run across the swamp without even noticing the shadow
>decide to go back to the farm for some stupid reason
>shadow catches up and scares the living fuck out of me
>escape with one survivor, but then it catches me again and finishes me off

FF7 gave me a lot of bad dreams
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>>379621123
Hang on one second. Does cloud have exactly the same HP and MP as a SOLDIER enemy, Like the different classes in shinra tower?

I never thought to look, does the game already tell you he was never SOLDIER first class here?
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>>379621576
Abbacchio is a failed Sephiroth clone.
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>>379621507
Is that a Mojojojo reference?
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>>379621297
>At least they're not going full retard and calling her Aerith
I'm not even sure about that, but yeah I don't think she's that retarded.
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>>379621498
>Most annoying part about fighting him low level is when he tail whips one of your party members away.
The only problem with it, actually. With bio and a few Phoenix Downs it's pretty easy to kill a Zolom at the level you encounter it except when it removes party members too soon.
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>>379620373
>cursed 2000 years mom created the most powerful evil ever, aimed at destorying earth for her

>>379619760
snek is a powerful symbol, since many years
a gigantic one means giant penis, giant strength and giant testosterone

>>379619847
grabbed it and sent it into the stick
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>>379621297

>At least they're not going full retard and calling her Aerith.
But SquareEnix is for FFVII:R. Enjoy your hours of fully voiced cutscenes with them calling her Aeirth.
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SEPHIROTH
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>>379619847
killed it with magic. then he got a bunch of people to help him mount it on a stick to look more impressive.
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>>379620421
>Except he just ends up being an oedipean faggot with hair-thin motivations and idiotic teen angst
Not really.
>Be legendary hero.
>People look up to you and wanna be like you.
>Feel speshul, like some sort of chosen one.
>Suddenly find out you're no hero
>Find out you're "special" because you were creating using some fucked up alien organism that nearly destroyed Earth
>Spend weeks like a NEET reading about the experiments.
>Since your whole life was a lie you decide to fuck shit up.
>Slaughter village, get to reactor.
>Get rekt by a low-quality farmboy trooper and thrown into Mako
>But you're in touch with mommy JENOVA now sow you're no longer you.
>Since your whole life was a lie decide to make mommy proud while bullying the kiddo who stabbed you
Pretty much. Sephiroth did nothing wrong.
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>>379621576
>>379621680
What the fuck is an Abbacchio? (If it's some stupid shit from the sequels, don't bother responding.)
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>>379621675
I'm pretty sure you find out after Tifa goes through the lifestream memories with you.
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>>379621984
>>Since your whole life was a lie you decide to fuck shit up.
Yes, that's the retarded part. It's just arbitrary. He only does this because the fucking game needs an antagonist.
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>>379622052
He's man wich tea you should try.
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>>379619760
>not posting the superior version
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>watch somebody try for low level beta
>he doesn't use defense stance
WHY DOES NOBODY EVER USE DEFENSE STANCE? BIO+DEFEND IS BROKEN AS SHIT
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>>379622159
>It's just arbitrary
I think it was more of a way to say "fuck you cunts and fuck those who created me too." It makes sense to me. It was in this town that JENOVA was prisoner.
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>>379621123
> cloud dies
> sephiroth casts life
> rinse and repeat for the next 5 minutes
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>>379621297
>preferring a mistranslation
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>>379622164
Oh wait, that Abbacchio.

>>379622353
>it was more of a way to say "fuck you cunts and fuck those who created me too."
Yes, that's exactly what I called retarded teen angst dumber than Squall's.
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>>379622305
Also, if you get the password right the 1st time in the shinra building from the mayor, he gives you Elemental materia, making it easier to survive the Beta hit.
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>>379621675
I just looked. The SOLDIER:3rd Class enemy in shinra tower has 250 hp and 40mp, which is I think more than cloud has at the start of ff7. Even in his flashback, cloud was never strong enough to be in SOLDIER.

>>379622073

The point is that his stats already show he didn't make it, without the game even telling you. SOLDIER Firsts have 5000 hp, Cloud was never even close in his dreams.
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>>379622184
came here for this
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Daily reminder that all FF games produced by squareenix are full fo shit
This one is an awful attempt to bait buyers, and it'll be pure shit again

Let them do shitty games like dissidia and KH and forget about FF, this saga is dead
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>>379622451
Cloud's muscles went to shit after being in that tank for so long. As for the flashbacks, you are right to call them inconsistent.
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>>379622429
But it's not dumb. It's more like he decided to burn Hojo's mansion and everyone who tried to stop him got killed. It's not retarded angst, but righteous anger. I mean that mansion is pretty much where he was designed so he may as well burn it down. He didn't take his time to kil everyone, just whoever got in the way between him and his target.
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>>379620737
How embarrassing. The character's name is Aerith.
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>>379622594
>Daily reminder that all FF games produced by squareenix are full fo shit
Don't kid yourself. Most Squaresoft games were equally idiotic. You were just too young to see it.
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>>379619760
hey i really would like to play this game. Do you know a website where i can get the iso?
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>>379622230
Things which absolutely won't be in the remake because they'd just look retarded in a realistic graphics style.
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>>379622716
N-NOOOO! KEFKA IS WAY MORE EPIC THAN SEPHIPOOPY!!
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>>379622753
They'll just have him in a bed, struggling and having nightmares.
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>>379622601

To be completely honest, it's attributable to ludonarrative fuckery and I doubt it was intentional. For instance, by my own argument, Sephiroth in the flashback is not strong enough to be SOLDIER First because he doesn't have 5k hp himself. It was just a neat thing I thought of when I saw the screenshot again.
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>>379622638
People respond with aggression to attacks on their identity, that much is true. But Sephiroth's identity was not attacked. He was a #1 magically infused supersoldier. He knew he was mao-infused and everything. All he found out was that an alien being was involved in his making. This somehow made him attack Nibelheimers.

>>379622805
Sod off, Kefka was even worse.
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>>379622417
Doesn't matter. It sounds retarded.
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>>379620234
>it was jenovas clone that looked like sephirot
No you dumb fuck it was the jenova herself, not her clone. She didn't even have any clones. Also sephiroth didn't have any clones either. It's a mistranslation, they are COPIES as in they are created the same way as Sephiroth - injected with jenova cell into mothers during pregnancy. How could anyone think that those guys with a numbers were his clones? I mean they don't even look the same way, if they were truly clones then characters would be like "what the fuck this guy looks like a fucking sephiroth"
>>379621405
How old are you? This game is 20 years old, GO PLAY IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
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>>379622230
Limit Breaker
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>>379622753
It'll be in, he just won't be nodding back and forth all the time. He'll just be full vegetable mode.
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>>379622928
He had enough to be angsty over already, being a man-made bio weapon puppet for Shinra, but getting to Nibelheim and the close proximity to Jenova fucked him mentally and he became a mindless puppet.
Remember Cloud pummelling Aeris at Temple of Ancients, then trying to hew her down in the City before Sephiroth kills her? Same shit, only Sephiroth has it worse because of of his creation vs Cloud's adoption.
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>>379620385
wow thx for the spoiler
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>>379622928
Didn't square Enix happen way after ff7? Wasn't it around the time of ff9 or 10 anyway? Aren't sephiroth and Kefka both squaresoft villains, or was ai just not paying attention when square Enix happened?
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>>379619760
>tfw no one else ever thought this was a foreshadowing of when Sephiroth would impale Aeris on his sword
>tfw you were the only one
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>>379622601
>As for the flashbacks, you are right to call them inconsistent.
But technically that wasn't him, wasn't it Zach and he was just a petty grunt as a shit escort for both Zach and Sephiroth?
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>>379622716
(Square)Enix is killing FF for Dragon Quest
Took 10 years to kill the FF love, almost a moral crime
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>>379623084
>getting to Nibelheim and the close proximity to Jenova fucked him mentally
You're just inventing things and you know it. I'm not saying Sephiroth's behavior couldn't be theoretically motivated with additional writing and especially rewriting but that it wasn't motivated in the game.

In the game, he found out that he was genetically engineered and became evil. And that's bad motivation and also banality and a cliche.
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>>379623008
SQUEAK

SQUEAK

SQUEAK
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>>379623209
I don't see how that's foreshadowing her death.
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>>379623332
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>>379623171
Enix bought Square two years after FFX. Sephiroth and Kefka are both Square villains and both equally stupid.
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>>379620976
Dude, that's LITERALLY lovecraft tier shit. He found out he's not even human, he's the kid of some world-eating monster from beyond the stars. That kind of shit is gonna fuck you up.
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>>379622928
>This somehow made him attack Nibelheimers.
His primary target was the mansion. If you see some foreign white-haired black-clothed guy burning your shit the first thing you're gonna do is take out your shotgun and tell him to go back to wherever shithole he came from.
But that guy is overpowered. It doesn't tell you how he starts killing people, it just tells you he ends up killing everything in his path to revenge or his path to JENOVA. This makes sense because it didn't happen overnight. He spent some time reading all the fucked up shit Hojo was doing. You'd think he'd grow bitter first and mad as hell second.
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>>379620234

Sephroth was controlling Jenova and all the clones of him made from her cells
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>>379623332

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oPqxoGzorI
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>>379623518
>Dude, that's LITERALLY lovecraft tier shit.
Not in the world of Final Fantasy VII where soldiers get infused with magic and electricity is made of the life force.
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>>379623268
There are some inconsistencies in the memories. Some scenes Sephiroth is definitely talking to Cloud. Because he mentions that this is the first time he has been back in his hometown in a long time. Zach wasn't born in Nibelheim.
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>>379623562
>If you see some foreign white-haired black-clothed guy burning your shit the first thing you're gonna do is take out your shotgun and tell him to go back to wherever shithole he came from.
As I said, you're updating the story. There's none of that in the actual game. Yes, Sephiroth's actions can be properly motivated with a tiny bit of the fucking imagination, sure. The point is they aren't in the game.
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>>379623590
they are not clones
read >>379623001
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>>379623518
but he's not really her kid
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>>379620791
you're supposed to get a few levels and kill it early
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>>379623268
Offtopic but has there ever been a more criminal retcon than the origin of Cloud's sword? Zack giving it to him is extremely symbolic.

Then we get told it used to belong to some faggot with angel wings.
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>>379623758
I wouldn't call them inconsistencies. Sephiroth seemed like a pretty decent guy before he went bananas, I can see him making conversation with the grunts.
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>>379623518

>Lovecraft tier shit

I don't see how. You're the person you define yourself to be with your actions regardless of how you came to exist. Sephiroth is like 30 years old in the game already, he had so little sense of self that news of his origin made him wig out? That's putiful.
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Sephiroth is an emo crybaby faggot
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>>379623773
>They aren't in game.
Which is great. You don't need to reveal all the details. It may sound crazy but leaving some room for imagination is always good.
I like that about FF6 and 7. I especially like on 7 that sometimes not through dialogs but through the character's expressions and gestures you can see things happening.
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>>379624070
Oh, I wasn't referring to Sephiroth's personality. I meant the scenes where it could have been Cloud or Zach due to Cloud's memories being fucked.
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Let's be honest.... Whoever says that FF7 isn't the best FF game in the series it's because that person hasn't played it. FF7 is one of the best games ever made.
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>>379624057
>has there ever been a more criminal retcon than the origin of Cloud's sword?
Yes. The existence of this cunt.
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>>379623590
>Jenova was controlling Cloud and all the "clones" that had its cells inside his/her body.

fixed that for you, kiddo.
The Sephiroth we see in the game for the most part is pretty much Jenova leading Cloud to the Northern Crater. You know, Reunion. Kinda like how all the others make it their towards the event.
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>>379624057

But cloud still gets it from zack. After crisis core, we just find out that angeal had it first and gave it to zack. There's no retcon. In fact, maybe it means more now because angeal meant a lot to zack as a mentor and role model, and now zack is the angeal in the relationship by passing it to cloud.


Then in ff7, cloud finds weapons thousands of times better than that garbage anyway.
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>>379624227
FF7 is amazing, but FF6 will always hold my heart.
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>>379623008

>Stroke the shaft as you suck
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>>379624225
Oh, right. When you say inconsistency, do you mean plot-wise, or just in terms of his memory? Because it's entirely reasonable that his unreliable memories would make him unable to determine whether Sephiroth was talking to his real self or Zack at the time.
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>>379624134
In the game his behavior is motivated like this: the supersoldier became evil because he found out that he's also part alien. That's it. The rest is not in the game either implicitly or overtly.
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>>379624057
Hey, Angeal's parents paid a lot of money to have that sword made. Sure, it's objectively the worst sword in the game, but they were living on a tight budget!
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>>379623484
>read the thread
>all this retarded shit around sephiroth
>all kefka is, is a magician that betrayed his emporer and stole ultimate power
No, yeah sure.
>ff9
>movie
Retards still don't grasp the idea of necron and overarching themes of FF9.
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>>379624314

It's balanced by giving us cirsei though, right?

WHERE THE FUCK DID CIRSEI GO, SQUARE? WHERE IS SHE?
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>>379622753
He's supposed to look absolutely retarded in the wheelchair
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>>379624529
In terms of Cloud's memory. Tifa's retelling was only about a specific moment. It's hard to tell if this >>379621123 was Cloud or Zach
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>>379624152
>ff9
>not nickelodeon cartoon for 5yo
>ff7
>not movie
>ff12
>not cinema
>ff8
>not flick
Also i would put Vagrant Story in Kino too.
God i want more Ivalice games. I hope Matsuno returns as inhouse dev to SE after that freelancer job in FFXIV raid.
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>>379624624
killed offscreen by shinra. all loose ends on the nibelheim case were cleaned up.
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>>379624826

In the remake, they better tell us that cirsei faked her own death, died her hair and rejoined the Turks as "Elena"
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>>379624152
My nigga
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>>379624378
Retcon in the sense that you were supposed to look back on the game and see the buster sword as the constant presence of Cloud's delusional idolisation of Zack. It's a clever and memorable theme.

They spoiled it entirely by forcing a character nobody cares about into the plot.
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>>379624807
>ff9
>not nickelodeon cartoon for 5yo
how many cartoons aimed at 5 year olds explore existentialism
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>>379624593
The JRPG players on /v/ are either too young, or dense, to respect the simple theme of mortality. Expecting an understanding of Necron is really pushing it.
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>>379619760
>cloud has zack's memories
>cloud doesn't have memories of zack dating aerith
>cloud told his "story" to the party
>tifa and aerith never bother to confront his lie

who the hell is cloud and why was him having zack's memories important to the story?
was his childhood with tifa a lie too?
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>>379624958
>cirsei
Cissnei, anon. Cirsei is the incestuous whore from Game of Thrones.
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>Post yfw Sephiroth is pretty much Sasuke
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>>379624593
>Retards still don't grasp the idea of necron and overarching themes of FF9.
Who the fuck doesn't grasp any of that childish shit? Necron is a diegetic non-character that laughably came out of the thematic field. It just banalized the game's hammered-in thematicism to the freaking extreme. Omg memento mori but genki up senpai you can literally fight and efeat the out-of-the-blue personification of death which defeats the purpose of the whole fuckign theme. It's idiotic writing quite on par with Square's other shit from the era.
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>>379624624
On the Way to a Smile answers that question. The Turks were working in the background during the events of FF7.
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>>379619760
Anyone else level themselves up so they could kill the Zolom too?
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>>379623001
>They're not clones, they're copies.
Really activates the diamonds.
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>>379625031
Existentialism is a entry level philosophy and is overused by game devs because they can't write anything better.
And yes, most of the characters act like way too cartoony.
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>>379625309
>ff7 thread
>oneyplays arguement
I don't think this is coincidence.
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>>379625330
>Existentialism is a entry level philosophy and is overused by game devs because they can't write anything better
but how many cartoons aimed at 5 year olds explore it
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>>379624593
>life is finite and short
>but it's still okay to carry on
>okay here's death
>in order to progress, you must literally kill him
>>overarching themes of FF9
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>>379620737
>Won't she get bullied for the entirety of her childhood for having a slightly different spelling of Eris, a fairly common girls name.

I can't tell if you're retarded or pretending, what the fuck is she going to be bullied over?
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>>379625435
You don't kill him at all, just prove to him there's a will to keep living now, even if theyre just going to die later anyway.
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>>379624350
no. it is the will of sephiroth controlling all the jenova cells and by proxy everyone that is injected with them. what makes sephiroth special is that he has dominion over jenova cells that normally have dominion over everything else. the sweet irony is that sephiroth is the hard counter to jenova without knowing it.
anyone with a very strong will gets to keep his conciousness in the lifestream.
in the case of aeris even after dying she can still access the world because she is an ancient. in the case if sephiroth he can access the world by controlling jenova cells(they are immortal cells)
other people with a strong will just keep their conciousness in the lifestream and they will not be recycled into other life form. example of that is how zack is still in there and chillin with aeris etc.
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>>379625481
>Eris, a fairly common girls name
Where do you live where "Eris" is fairly common?
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>>379625378
Fuck off faggot, nobody is interested in your garbage youtube channel.
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>Materia Overlord

fuck, that achievement took a while, even with farming magic pots
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>>379619760
>not level grinding to defeat the midgar zolom and get the beta enemy skill early

What the fuck are you doing nigga?
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>>379625309
RERrI MAKS ME TINK AHHAHA FUCFNIIY MEEEM<M
Have you actually read my post you fucking animegirlreactionimageposting faggot? Created the same way, not cloned from Sehps dna.
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>>379621675
Cloud also has Pre-Emptive Materia equipped in his flashback (the Materia he was talking about being exicted to try out). This is why he is able to get the jump on Sephiroth in the Reactor.
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>>379625580
Ok.
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>>379625572
Planet Earth, you should try joining us here every once in a while you autistic fuck.
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>>379625172
>you can literally fight and efeat the out-of-the-blue personification of death which defeats the purpose of the whole fuckign theme

Not that guy but you don't defeat him, you just show the world's will to survive by fighting him.

I agree the concept could have been fleshed out better. Like some very subtle nods to Necron during the game or something.
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>>379625557
Yeah, and so you just fight and defeat death. It's like in FFXIII where the characters decide to follow their destiny of defying their fate. It's as if the plot was hand-crafted to defeat its own thematic purpose. Jesus christ, I laugh even as I type.
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>>379625305
Before I got FF7, my friend had it the day of release. I went over his to watch and play some with him, he was at the overworld trying desperately to get past the Zolom on foot, or killing it. Since I never played it before I had no idea that you could catch Chocobos, so we tried killing it or running through the marsh a ton of times.

We eventually somehow managed to run through the entire marsh without getting caught by it after about an hour of trying.

I still remember telling him when I got it that you can just get a chocobo.
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>>379625651
Does cloud get the first attack in the dragon fight flashback? Preemptive only gives you an increased chance to go first, right?
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>>379625710
Not him, but I've literally never met a girl with that name before. American. I've met Erins, but never Eris
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>>379625710
????
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>>379625782
>I agree the concept could have been fleshed out better. Like some very subtle nods to Necron during the game or something.
The whole script could have been fleshed out better. Like cutting out 70% of fluff and having an actual plot that goes somewhere specific instead of just being all over the place and barfing kiddie philosophy all over itself.
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>>379625782

>a handful of people are strong enough to kill death
>this means that everyone else on earth wants to live
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>>379625560
Nice headcanon faggot. It's a Jenova. Get over it.
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>>379625894
Preemptive improves your chances of starting the fight with a back attack.
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>>379625974
>Never heard of a site.
>Go there.
>Type in my own name.
>There are 1 or fewer people in the U.S. with that name.
>There are literally three people in my neighborhood with that name.

????
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>>379624690
>that sephiroth riding the giant moogle
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>>379625974
>USA is Planet Earth
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>>379625330

>existentialism is an entry level philosophy

It has exactly as much strength as almost any strain of philosophy. Just because some of the writers weaved anti-Semitism into their writing doesn't mean that it's all garbage.
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>>379626014
>a handful of people are strong enough to kill death

That isn't what happens at all though. Necron can wipe out the entire universe at any moment, by actually standing up against something that powerful you convince him otherwise.
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>>379626269
At least he offered something other than anecdotal evidence. Eris is not a "fairly common" name.
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>>379623758

He's talking to Cloud in both flashbacks, the first where he's a SOLDIER and the second where he's a grunt
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>>379625946
>Not him, but I've literally never met a girl
Sounds about right.
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>tfw I've still never played FF7
>tfw I played FF6 a few years ago instead

Is ff7 worth it
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>>379620706
man I wanna play dissidia
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>>379626351
So why not answer >>379625572 and say where Eris is a common name?
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>>379626591
Posting on /v/ isn't worth it, so clearly you have enough time on your hands to decide for yourself.
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YO WHATS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD
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>>379626372
Yeah, the game disposed of villains and finally ends at this stupid cliche. It's just so bad. I really wish FFIX was more like its first disk.
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>>379626646
well obviously i have enough time to decide for myself if i exist, but i don't want to think.
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>>379626782
>i don't want to think
I know.
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>>379619847
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>>379626812
you don't want to think either which is why you stated something so obvious
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>>379626650

>2 frame animation lopp intensifies
>10000 needles to the face
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>>379625974
>american education
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>>379626890
>you don't want to think either
I already did. You're just being mad.
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>>379625330
>Existentialism is a entry level philosophy
What would you consider a higher tier of philosophy? I would have thought the question of why we exist is one of the most essential philosophies there is.
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Is Jenova the funniest FF antagonist of all time?

That one scene where she's chilling in the Nibelheim mansion and then beans Cloud with the Destruct materia and flies off like Superman always cracks me up, she's such a fucking asshole
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>>379621915

> I'm Aerith Gainthborough I live in the thlumth of thector theven lol
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>>379626956
>insults americans
>makes no attempt to provide a better source
Eris is not a common name.
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>>379626978
no you didn't you pointed out the obvious which is that someone can decide something for themselves, so then i responded with the obvious which is that sometimes people don't want to decide something for themselves

i am fucking PISSED because you're lying
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>Be a talented kid from Junon
>Want to serve my country
So should I join SOLDIER or the Turks?
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>>379627130
>i am fucking PISSED
I know.
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I bought FF7 on steam like a good goy but holy shit its unplayable. 15 fps in battles is hurting my eyes. I'm not even memeing.
Also HUGE BLACK BAR at the bottom of the screen. And unfiltered field sprites. I don't remember game being this bad on ps1. Even framerate, no way it ran at 15.
Is there any mods to fix this?
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>>379627136
Join the Avalanche. Word on street is that every member gets blown by real bombshells almost daily.
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>>379627206
>FF7 steam
Im so sorry
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>>379620737
>Wat do
Tell her its spelled Aerith.
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>>379623562
>His primary target was the mansion.
You mean the reactor?
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>>379626269
>There are literally three people in my inbred hick town with a retarded name
shocker
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>>379626650
Cactuar's truly are the bros of the franchise.

Speaking of which, how has their not been a Cactuar game, or spin-off just with Cactuars?
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>>379621576
no but sephiroth's appearance is confirmed to be based on psaro from dragon quest
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>>379627201
>I know.
I know.
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>>379627206
>Even framerate, no way it ran at 15.
Oh yes it did.
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>>379627136
You should off yourself faggot
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https://youtu.be/7P2fJ4iuxTo ff
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>>379627309
But why lie to her like that?
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>>379626492
>At least he offered something other than anecdotal evidence.

No he didn't. He posted a screenshot from a site that claimed both at the same time the name has 1900 instances and less than 1 instance. And after going to it to check it out myself it said there were less than 1 of my name when I know two other people with the same name in the same neighbourhood no less.

That is not evidence, so its not "something other than anecdotal evidence."
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>>379627249
Pretty good point, I mean have you ever seen a woman in SOLDIER? They probably get their rocks off raping Wutai girls
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>>379627350
I'm glad.
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>>379627484
Find something that actually supports your initial claim then.
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>>379622353
maybe it makes sense to an edgy middle schooler
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>>379627451
If its spelled Aeris its not related to FF7 at all.
Eris is a common name.
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>>379619950
You can beat the Zolom at low level so long as you farmed Aeris' limit breaks.
>charge limit break
>fight zolom
>attack it until it gets to ~1500/4000HP
>RNG kicks in here
>use Planet Protector
>attack zolom
>it retaliates
>Learned enemy skill:Beta
>cast it back
>win
>entire game is easy mode
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>>379627689
>Eris is a common name
And Death Stranding is Silent Hills.
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>>379620737
The name itself isn't too bad, she'll only have to live her life knowing her dipshit parents named her after a videogame character.
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>>379624592
They could have at least forcibly equipped it for the final Omnislash at the end of the game. They already remove all your Matetia.

I think the best thing to do is to buff it (think how FFX handles the Brotherhood) after Cloud and Tifa journey through the Lifestream. It would still only have 2 Materia slots, but they could increase its AP growth rate and give it good damage and accuracy.
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>>379627721
WRONG. You use Barrett's mindblow to take away his MP, then he can't cast Beta. It's so fucking easy.
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>>379627530
shut up
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>>379627809
At least its better then being named Dovahkiin because of a contest.
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>>379628220
>7 minutes
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>>379627689
How is it not related? Aeris and Aerith are direct translations of her Japanese name. Since neither translation was picked before hand, Aeris became her English name. It was retconned to Aerith, which means her original name of Aeris was technically never wrong.
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>>379628216
>then he can't cast Beta
The entire reason to actually try to kill the Zolom is to learn Beta, you donut.
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>>379627594
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Female+name+Eris
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>>379627721
>>379628216
You can also use Elemental (Fire) in your armor and having everyone on sadness to make Beta easier to learn/survive
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>>379628351
Well yeah, but you just said beating him, not learning Beta.
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>>379628425
>the female name eris exists
That was never in question, you assclown. Find something that indicates that it's fairly common.
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>>379628432
>Sadness
Shit, I never even thought of that.
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>>379628216
>sap it of MP
>Now you can't learn Beta
>Zolom offers 0 AP and a pittance of Gil
Nope. The entire purpose of fighting the thing is gaining the Beta skill early.
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>>379628289
>retconned
>never wrong
Make up your mind anon. Mind you it could have also been translated as Elyse, Ellis and other same sounding different spelling names but they chose Aerith, for some reason.
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>>379628553
>Sperging over a name as common as Eris.

At least I offered more than anecdotal evidence.
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>>379625974
>expecting a lot of people with a greek name in the usa
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>>379628706
Retconned means the original was CHANGED, not FIXED. Also again, Aeris and Aerith are DIRECT translations. Stuff like Ellis may be similar, but they are not translations... What is hard to get here?
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>>379627110
>american existence
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>>379628986
>At least I offered more than anecdotal evidence
You actually offered less, because you didn't offer any evidence of its prevalence at all, just its existence.
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>>379629059
Where is it common, then?
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>>379629264
>greek name
>where is it common then?
gee I dunno. use your brain
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>>379629441
Prove that it's common in Greece.
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>>379629101
What about Ealis and Bullet?
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>>379629101
If it hurts too much to hear Aerith just call her the flower girl.
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>>379629484
I never claimed that it was common in greece
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>>379629928
You implied it's common somewhere. If not Greece, then where?
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>>379630062
God of War, Billy and Mandy. Kek.

To be fair that image above has more than a thousand people named Eris. Not as popular as English names, which are the most common today in the west but its still there.
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>>379630395
Nobody's questioning the fact that Eris is a real name that people have. Nothing points to it being anything but an uncommon name, though.
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>>379630062
I dunno I just asked you to use your brain because I would like to find out as well
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>>379630592
Bitch please. Do you know how many millions upon millions people are name Wang in China?
Do you know that the most common name in the whole world is Nguyen?
If your name isn't Nguyen or a Chinese surname its uncommon. We're talking about large numbers now!
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>>379630934
Prove that Eris is a common name.
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>>379627721
Shit, you just described exactly what I did to breeze through the game. It makes it even easier during (I don't remember exactly, it was a long time ago) during some part where an alarm was blaring and they sent groups of high level enemies (robots?) at you.

Beta would one shot them and they gave a ton of exp so I grinded disc 1 to some ridiculous level.
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>>379623328
Blabla we get it. You are an autist who likes to endlessly repeat your argument.
People lose their shit over the tinest things. He just couldn't handle it and it changed him. Get over it.
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>>379627026
>thlumth

My thideth
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>>379619760
I never got it: why did it happen if sephiroth wasnt real? Wasnt it just hallucinatuon of cloud and real sephi was stuck in material this all time?
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>>379631445
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>>379629497
>Claud
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>>379625894
It only gives you a chance to get a back attack.

When Cloud and Tifa are in the Lifestream in Mideel in the Reactor, Cloud picks up the Buster Sword, runs up behind Sephiroth, Sephiroth turns around and Cloud stabs him in the gut. Right after that Cloud takes off his Soldier helmet and reveals his face.
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>>379624541
>. The rest is not in the game either implicitly or overtly.
It is. He reads through Hojo's findings.
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>>379627312
Mission 1: burn the shit out of the mansion where the fucker who designed you wrote years and years of his research.

Mission 2: Free JENOVA
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>>379629497
>Bullet
>Barret was a mistranslation.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
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>>379634856
bit late to join this but

Sephiroth wants to destroy humanity

then find the promised land with his "mother"

nothing more
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>>379632579
The Sephiroth you chase was real, it just wasn't really Sephiroth; it's Jenova using Sephiroth's appearance.
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>>379626039
Both the developers and the original game literally say in plain English that Sephiroth is the one in control. Try playing the game before popping off
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>>379636610
inb4 the devs are wrong
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>>379625560

iirc, the reason Seph's body wasn't obliterated in the lifestream was more because Jenova cells are incompatible with the planet. It's like a planetary parasite, and the planet can't get rid of it on its own.
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>>379636667
Even if you don't accept what the devs said after the fact (which is retarded), the original game clearly spells out that Sephiroth is the one controlling Jenova and all of the clones. Hojo says it, Cloud says it, even Jenova herself says it.

If Jenova was really the puppet master, why would she throw herself at you to stop you from reaching Sephiroth? Why is Sephiroth the final boss? Why is it Sephiroth's voice that Cloud hears at the end of the game? It only makes sense if Sephiroth is the one in control.
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>>379626650
1000000000000000000 NEEDLES
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>>379637647
No, people with Jenova cells can return to the Lifestream. Sephiroth just has such immensely strong willpower that he's able to keep his sense of self amidst the infinite stream of consciousness in the Lifestream, and the way he does it is by focusing exclusively on his hatred for Cloud.

He's literally too angry to die
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>>379629497
>Nothing has been released other than the city of midgard will be the focal point of the game
>2 discs

The game got a fucking upgrade
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>>379619760
so, he steals XP too
>>
Yknow i can't wait for the shinra building in the remake. Remember how you get out of your cell, the musics all ominous and you suddenly have all these freaky enemies coming at you ?
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>>379638663

That is a way more hardcore explanation and I like it.
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>>379619760
I'll never forget this fucking scene. It showed you what you were really up against.
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>>379620234
>>379620271
Jesus Christ I never knew that. Guess I'm retarded
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>>379619760
>>379620385

This Sephiroth's a real jerk
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>>379640820
he's cool tho
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>>379640820
>>
>play damn near all the FF titles
>FF7 is the only one I can recall and hum the majority of the album off the top of my head

I guess it had more of an impact on my 10 year old self than I thought.
>>
>>379629497
Even funnier than the names are how inaccurate those yen exchange rates are. The mid 90s was when the yen was at its all time lowest value, there's absolutely no way 5,800 yen was equal to 58 dollars. It'd have been closer to 30 dollars.
>>
So hello. I have never played any Final Fantasy(tm) games. Which are the ones to play? I heard some of them need some square enix account so I'd rather avoid that.
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>you will never consume the planet's life force for your own then use it to fuel your journey through the cosmos to corrupt the rest of the galaxy
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>>379642737
X-2 and X-2 only
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>>379623008
How did that even get into the final game, even as a kid I thought it was unsettling seeing tifa suck off crippled cloud
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>>379642737
Literally pick any one of them except for II [which is not a good game for someone who's just getting into the franchise], III [V is basically a better version of III in almost every aspect], and VIII [same as II], they all play differently from each other and have unconnected stories except for the odd and rare direct sequel.

V, VI, VII, IX or X are perfectly good places to start. XV is the least Final Fantasy of all of them. XI and XIV are MMOs. My personal favorites are either V or IX, but literally every game has plenty of fans except maybe II and III

As for the side games, consider playing Final Fantasy Tactics at some point, it's an sRPG as opposed to a classic turn-based JRPG, but it's very good.
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>>379642892
>>379644251

Thank you. I will get x-2 from sale.
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>>379620706
>people are still this buttmad that X didn't have an emo edgelord for a main character
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>>379644854
Let me qualify my post >>379644251 by saying saying that X-2 is one of the rare direct sequels I mentioned and I highly recommend playing X before you play X-2 if you have any interest in understanding the story at all.
I'm also not sure if Anon was being serious.
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