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How can Nintendo win in your opinion

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I think it's safe to say, whatever side you're on, that Nintendo has the potential to win this E3.

So in your honest opinion, even if you own another console and usually shit on Nintendo, what could make them leave E3 as the winner?
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animal crossing
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THEY WILL NEVER XD SONY ALWAYS WINS BABY AM I RITE BROS
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Nintendo is going to win pretty much by default. Microsoft has accepted that exclusives are pointless because their audience is mainly casuals, Sony announced everything they were going to release in the next five years last year.
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>>379607868
By just showing up
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>>379607868
Pikmin

I'm in
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Thir Party titles
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>>379607868
A reveal of a big game on the scale of BotW or Odyssey. Be it Metroid, F-Zero, Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong or even Eternal Darkness. Just something big, even if it's just a promising teaser.
They're not gonna "win" with just another 2D platformer, a Wii U port or another Pikmin that is pretty much the same as the ones before it.
Even if those games are fun, they're not going to 'win' against the likes of God of War.
They need to give other franchises than just Mario and Zelda some bigger budget entries.
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Thousand Year Door HD remake with online multiplayer
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>>379607868
The question is, how can Nintendo NOT win?

They would have to reveal ZERO new information for this to happen, and even then Mario would be wiping its ass with Sony and Microsoft.
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E3 been a shitshow since giant enemy crab, there are no winners
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>>379608604
>how can Nintendo NOT win?
By focusing on Mario + Rabbids for more than two minutes in their Spotlight.
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They're not going to have anything good to show. There's literally 0% reason to get yourself hyped.
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>>379607868
SMO. Teaser for Metroid or whatever Retro has been working on. Smash Deluxe, Splatoon 2, XC2, Fire Emblem teaser, Warriors, MonHunXX. Overall just show what games are coming. Isn't Platinum working on something for Nintendo also? They'll probably save some stuff for next year's direct.
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>>379607868
Another Zelda on the BOTW engine, but with actual dungeons this time.

Release date for SMT5

Metroid Prime 4

Pikmin 4

Animal Crossing

Hardware revision that makes the Switch into an actual handheld.

Pick any 2 of the above and they win. 3 and they will be in a good place to win 9th gen outright against anything Sony or MS can muster.
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>>379607868
I don´t care for Nintendo this year. Pokemon is not on the Switch and I played Botw on my U. SMO will probably be fucking awesome, but that can wait.

I still hope for following games to get released on switch or pc(if it didn´t already):
- FFX/X2
- FFXII
- KH anthology
- TWEWY Sequel
- FF6 remake

That´s the ones I really really want right now.
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Justify their online.
Have a year 2 of games roughly shown
One or two extra titles this year. Ports if they are decent titles.
Some sort of acknowledgement their drought and a plan to fill it with indies or something down the line.

Otherwise I feel Sony will win by just having games with release dates in 2017
Or MS drops the third nuke and blows everyone away with Scorpio
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>>379608854
>Another Zelda on the BOTW engine, but with actual dungeons this time.
They're not going to show that, muppet. There's the DLC first.

>Hardware revision that makes the Switch into an actual handheld.
Also retarded. The Switch just launched and is still selling out. Last thing they need is more different hardware to stress their supply lines.
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>>379607868
More games than the competition.
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>>379609090
If they remove the ability for docked mode they could easily shrink the console while improving battery life. An actual handheld shouldn't need a system fan...

It could be a budget option to sell alongside the full system.

I'm not expecting it this E3, but I'm not buying a Switch at all if they don't revise the hardware within the next 2 years.
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>>379609051
why would we get blown away by a more powerful no-game machine?
Aside from Banjo or Conker there's nothing Microsoft CAN do to win.

They're just done, it's blasphemy that it sold more than the Wii U and that the Wii U is seen as a failure when no one says anything about the XBone
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>>379607868
What is winning E3? If you show the best games? Even if they're more than a year away? Or if you have the best surprises? Even if those surprises just started development?

Nintendo is not going to announce many new things, so they've got to do it with all the games we already know about. Some of which could be pretty impressive still, but not really surprising.
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>>379607868
Switch Titles:
Metroid Prime Hunters/Metroid Prime 4
DQ11 port
Zelda DLC info
Switch exclusive FROM title, but it'll probably just be Dark Souls Trilogy
3DS:
TWEWY 2

But really, all they need to do to win is have at least 3 good games come out this year and maybe 2 more announced for next year.
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animal crossing or smash
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>>379608460
Why would another DK or FZero be fine, but a new Pikmin (a series with far fewer games) be 'not good enough'?
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>>379608558
F-Zero and Metroid would be released before such a crazy idea would be considered. Sorry, pal.
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>>379608128
This is the only thing that will make me buy this console
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>>379609986
A new Pikmin would be good enough if it does something new, but I really doubt that will happen. A new 2D Donkey Kong also wouldn't make them win if it's the same as the other DK Country games.
F-Zero would be big just because it's been so damn long since the latest entry in that franchise.
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Sin & Punishment 3.
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>>379608817
This plus revealing the Animal Crossing and Zelda smartphone games.
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>>379610305
Shit opinions m8
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>>379607868
Games that aren't more god damn ports
Animal Crossing that isn't a port
Monster Hunter that isn't a port
Metroid that isn't a port or remaster
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>>379610384
>>379610403

If this is real then I got a surprise for you, Nintendo loses

Can we please get more 3D platformers ,pals? Please, buy them, show interest. I think I would cut both my pinkies to get a 3D DK again. If that isn't already Retro's new projet
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>>379607868
There is no "winner", you can announce 30 tittle and all be a disappointment or get out 10 years later, what matters is the actual release.
Deciding a "winner" on a E3 is only deciding who wears make up better.
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>>379610525
>If this is real
It isn't.

>>379610384
I wouldn't mind them revealing the Animal Crossing smartphone thing if they do it together with a mainline Switch AC game.
Doubt they'll even touch smartphone shit in their initial Direct though. Maybe on the Treehouse stream.
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>>379608604
Just because you like Mario doesn't mean that it's of greater value than any game Sony may show.
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Unless they announce an incredible 2018 lineup, I don't think they can. Nintendo has tempered expectations already by claiming to focus mostly on 2017 games, so it'll likely be a repeat of last year only with Odyssey this time.
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>Nintendo goes the way of Sega and leaves the console market.
>Microsoft leaves the gaming industry entirely
>Sega comes back with a new home console
>Sony announces the Vita 2 with actual support this time
But we know this will never happen, muslims are taking europe and soon they will take the entire world and world war 3 will end life on this planet so who cares right?
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>>379610525
If that's real it would be great though, Metroid and Animal Crossing are great IPs, and Smash Bros is what everyone has been asking for.
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>>379607868
A surprise price drop for the Switch and not blueballing fans on Metroid
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Nintendo show will cause full meltdown because it is 2017 shit only that most of people know or expect.

I expect NINTENDOOMED to extreme after this E3.

And do not even get me started if Sony gets that MH5.
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>>379610989
>price drop
It is selling like candies, you can't even find it on stores, they don't need a price drop right now.
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For me, personally?
They'd win by announcing a new Metroid

Or if we get word on RE4 on Switch.
I know, I know. It'd be yet another port. And one of a game that's been re-released a million times, but man....the thought of RE4 on the go? hoooooooooooooooooo boy. I'd buy that shit so hard.
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>>379607868
Metroid 5
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>>379610989
>A surprise price drop for the Switch
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They could release a Switch + that's the strongest console on the market, costs the least, gets definitive versions of every game and sonyfriends would still stick to paying $60 a year for PS+ instead, because they're games are held ransom by that rental process.
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>>379610989
>price drop
Thats not gonna happen till 2019 at the earliest
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>>379607868

There is no Zelda until 2025.
They already showed 5 rehashes of Pokemon
And they are going to continue porting games from WII U to Swshit
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>>379611101
6
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>>379611021
How delusional are you? They're back in force, and no shitposting you can do will stop that. They lost momentum and now they have it back, making Microsoft obsolete. This is a race between Sony and Nintendo now
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>>379607868
I've always felt like Nintendo's E3s were mostly consistent. There're a few bad years but usually there's an announcement of some title that mostly appeals to existing fans, and a little bit on games everyone was already anticipating. Nothing special.

So basically, I think whether or not Nintendo wins depends on how badly other companies fuck up rather than what it does. We're waiting to see if this is 2015 and Sony has its shit together, or whether this is 2016 and Sony has no games.
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>>379607868
>own both a ps4 and a switch and a vita and a 3ds.

> don't even touch the ps4 or vita anymore because the games just bore me.

Nintendo games are just more fun.
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>>379607868
>How can Nintendo win in your opinion
Show a solid 2017 release date for Xenoblade 2. Also show some mechs in there somewhere.
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>>379607868
Pikmin 4
Metroid
FZero
Animal crossing

At least two of these or their E3 will be a disappointment. Spinoffs and mobile shit don't count
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>>379607868
i wont, Nintendo can announce they bough all jap developers and sonyfriends and co will still crying about not getting western trash
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>>379609503
I don't know I feel like MS need to do something big with this or this is the end for them.
I don't think being the best place for multiplats is gonna cut it.

They've lost every exclusive they had and the dudebros
To spend so much money on the Scorpio they must have some sort of secret.
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>>379607868
announcing theyre going third party
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Animal Crossing
Metroid
F-Zero
Smash 4 with some crazy new characters
MonHun
New SMT looking good
Pokemon Switch
Pikmin
Cool looking new IP
Some third parties

They would have to do about half or a little less of above to win in my eyes.
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Their own e3 website says they're only focusing on games from this year which means they're not announcing anything.

Nintendo seems to do a really good job of shooting themselves in the foot and screwing their fans every e3 in order to be contrarian.
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>>379607868

Nintendo already won when you kneeled down and started slabbering over its corporate dick.
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>>379609459
The fan runs slower in handheld mode, but it still runs. It's unavoidable with that kind of processor, even in a handheld. A system that can run games like Breath of the Wild on the go is going to require some cooling. There's not much incentive for Nintendo to cut down the size, either. The XL model 3DS systems are selling a lot more than the smaller ones. Making it smaller would require using smaller batteries, too, so there wouldn't be a battery life gain.
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>>379607868
Switch for $200. Get rid of the useless dock, don't bother with joycons and that HD rumble gimmick, just add fixed (as in unremovable) controls to the tablet.
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>>379612013
>they're only focusing on games
amiibos count as games
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>>379607868
If they reveal a new metroid and/or fzero game I will literally cum money for a switch.
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>>379612460
>Get rid of the useless dock, don't bother with joycons
>add fixed (as in unremovable) controls to the tablet
Sounds like shit, playing it like a normal controller is what I always choose.
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>>379612590
>amiibos

oh fug i forgot
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Monster Hunter XX Switch
Mario 06
Zelda DLC
Dark Souls collection
Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon HD Switch
Misc. JRPGs/WRPGs


AAAAAnd.....
Netflix Virtual console where you pay 6.99$ a month to play all your favorite retro games! even the nintendo shitcube!

if this is the case i m getting a switch asap
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>>379612931
Then get a separate controller. The point is to shave the necessary gimmicks that up the price.
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>>379607868
I think a metroid 2 "zero mission" would be a good idea to raise interest again in the metroid franchise
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some time of backwards compatibility like could they make a disc drive add on lmao. i dont have a wii u and i dont want to buy a dead console
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>>379613332
*type of
shit lmao
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>>379607868
>I think it's safe to say, whatever side you're on, >that Nintendo has the potential to win this E3.

Huge Nintendo fan since 1991 up to the Gamecube. Unless Neokikeshitendo gives us a new F-Zero and 2D HD Metroid they can eat shit and choke to death on it.
If they fail to deliver on both of those at the same time they lose automatically. No discussion.
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>>379607868
-US MHXX this year
-NMH 3 Trailer
-SMT V Trailer
-Fromsoftware new game (or DS trilogy)
-Metroid
-Basic Apps
-New IP
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>>379612769
>fzero
It's dead, Jim. Better start playing Fire Emblem and pretend it's a racing game because that's all you're going to get.
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>>379613448
I don't think anyone who uses Neokikeshitendo unironically is high-functioning enough to have the disposable income to buy those games anyway.
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Golden Sun remake for Switch. Or a new Camelot JRPG for Switch. I'd be happy with either.
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>>379607868

New Advance Wars
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>>379613120
That would just make people have to spend more than they do now. Joycons get you a handheld interface, two minimal controllers, and one full-featured controller in one package. Cutting the price isn't worth it if they need to sacrifice the main selling points for it. People are already buying it at the current price point.
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>>379607868
if they announce Metroid Prime 4
not gonna happen though so they will do ok'ish with the only real highlight being oddyssey
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Announce a new Custom Robo for the switch and advertise it as a cult classic and you'll get fake nerds and old CR fans to suppoet it en masse

Failing that, just quietly announce release dates for the remaining 3DS titles and don't announce anything new that isn't coming to the Switch. Even if they aren't, it has to look like they're supporting the new console this year to have the tiniest chance.

Or just go "just kidding Arms and Spla2n are out today" and watch the internet explode
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>implying they can win in 25 MINUTES

http://www.gamezone.com/news/e3-2017-nintendo-presentation-to-be-roughly-25-minutes-long-3454411
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>>379613535
>NMH 3 Trailer
I keep forgetting this was announced. It was an announcement of a future possible announcement but I keep forgetting it because of the translator fuck up back then.
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>>379613623
Nintendo did reach out to Criteron to make a new F-Zero when the Wii U launched.

There's some interest there. I just think Nintendo doesn't think they could make anything on par with GX at this point.
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>>379614680
Zelda won in 3 mins last year.
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>>379614680
>implying they can not
yeah the bliss of 2 hours confereces about sales, woodgirl#, and like 3 games with pre-rendered demo which Nintendo can do aside on the Tree House event
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>>379615029
It's not that, really. Miyamoto said something like "why would people want another F-Zero?" implying it needed anything new or innovative. People just want a new modern F-Zero to play on their (probably only) console. Nintendo doesn't even need to make it, they could hire some other studio to do it. In my opinion it'd be worth it to see what level of interest a good F-Zero has. If it fails you drop the franchise, if it succeeds you'll make a new F-Zero for Switch 2 or whatever.
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>>379608172
YOU SAID IT BRO! THEYRE GONNA KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK THIS YEAR WITH THE LAST OF US 2 AND GOD OF WAR! MAN SONY KNOWS ME WELL. I LOVE SURVIVAL GAMES WHERE I HAVE TO ESCORT A FAGGOT CHILD AROUND AND SCAVENGE FOR SHIT. OH, AND HYPERREALISTIC GRAPHICS, HELL YES! BRING ON THE MOVIES AM I RIGHT!

SONY WINS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>379614482
>Custom Robo

You and I both know that there a number of fans for that series is tiny. No matter how much I want it, I know it will not happen.
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>>379613120
I like to play on the big screen when I'm at home though, make it only a handle would miss the point, I would just get a 3DS for that.
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Golden Sun
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Games that will be there:
Splatoon 2
Mario Odyssey
Mario x Rayman

Games that should be there:
Monster Hunter XX Switch

Games that won't be there:
Pokemon Sun/Moon Switch
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New Animal Crossing
New 2D Metroid
New IP from Retro
Pokemon for Switch
Smash Bros for Switch
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>>379607868
Smash Bros for Switch
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No matter what nintendo shows we'll still get the waves of
NINTENDO WON WITH ONE GAME threads for like a week straight
Remember when nintendo won by only showing amiibos yeah
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>>379615029

Man, a burnout style F-Zero would be fucking rad. Focus on trading paint combat.
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>>379615670
>Mario x Rayman
Hopefully, they can leave that for Ubisoft conference.
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>>379614680
Wow I love how that article offers no source whatsoever
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>>379607868
The idea of "winning" E3 is fucking retarded. What are you, 12?
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>>379616043
Nico Nico is the source
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>>379616047
What makes you unhappy in life anon
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>>379615815
Oh my god, they won last E3 because Zelda is a much bigger franchise that literally fucking who franchises like God of War: My Wife's Son. Not to mention it was superior than anything Sony is going to shit out for the next 50 years.
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not winning but I'd appreciate an official announcement that Monster Hunter XX will be localized. Bonus points if it'll be localized remotely close to the Japanese release.
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>>379607868
I don't think Nintendo has huge potential considering their conference is apparently pretty short. I'm willing to bet it'll be disappointing like the last two, but I want to be wrong.
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Just give me a god damn Metroid, Nintendo.
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>>379616843
No metroid, no switch. If they announce a game that doesn't suck I'll buy one the same day.
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>>379616331
Didn't they under predict the time for the Jan presnetation? It was 6 mins longer than what they predicted then. I wouldn't worry too much
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Nintendo will always win in the eyes of a Nintendo fanboy.
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>>379616738
Length literally does not matter. The 35 min shit direct had 29 games and amiibo shit, and that was 3DS+Switch. This is switch only. If they can announce like 12 games it's already good, especially since treehouse is on later to give gameplay, I don't think time matters that much.
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>>379607868
By leaving the gaming market.

Now consider suicide, you fucking Nintendo cocksucking shill.
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>>379615451
That's why you advertise it as a hidden gem from the Gamecube era.
If fucking Shaq Fu gets a shot anything can.
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>>379607868
3DS Successor
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>>379607868
They'd need to not announce only 2017 games for starters, but sadly that's not gonna happen
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>>379608172
>>379615429
Having fun, faggots?
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>>379613643
I earn 90k/year as a system administrator for one of the biggest communication companies in my country, you pathetic neo-Neokikeshitendicksucker.
stay NEET4life :)
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>>379617304
>you will never be this mad
Feels good bros
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>>379617671
It's okay I believe you anon!
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New interesting looking games. I'm hoping that pokemon direct was to get the ports out of the way.

That being said, I know that Smash is too juicy of easy money to not do.
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>>379607868
Make this goddamn Pokemon game for switch.
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>>379617774
accept your place in society and stay miserable or kill yourself :)
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>>379617819
Smash is guaranteed, just not sure if they'll announce it this E3.

Personally wouldn't mind it, as long as it has at least one new character included. A straight port would be beyond bullshit.
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>>379617612
You mean games with just the year as the release date, right? Cause we're in the middle of 2017 already and games releasing soon is exactly what we need.
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>>379618108
It's okay anon, I really believe you!
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>>379607868
by revealing with switch to be a temporary cash grab ruse cruise like the retro NES, and revealing their true next-gen console with more contemporary controls and a lineup of non-shovelware release titles.
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Isn't there presentation only going to be 30 minutes long though? With no Treehouse at all?
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>>379619021
Treehouse is happening right after the presentation and is separate.

I don't know the difference though.
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>>379619009
How are the switch controls no cotemporary. All the standard buttons are there
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>>379619139
The 30-minute presentation is called Nintendo Spotlight. It's a quick showcase of game announcements. Treehouse is an all-day streaming thing with game footage from the show floor and developer interviews.
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>>379619009
Just shell out 80 dollar for a pro-controller.
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>>379619398
Why not just have that in the presentation? Am I missing something?
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>>379607868
Monster Hunter XX in English before Christmas.
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>>379607868
Honestly even if Nintendo announces all ports, they would "win" to Nintendo fans. It sucks being a Switch owner who had a Wii U.
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>>379607868
I just realized that Nintendo localized and published Dragon Quest VI, Dragon Quest VII and Dragon Quest VIII for the west.

How funny will it be when Dragon Quest XI is Nintendo exclusive in the west? Bayonetta 2 all over again, except 1000 times funnier because a PS4 version will exist, JP only.
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>>379619502
the presentation is at the e3 floor, and they announce some games and show trailer while treehouse is in seattle (I think) and they go more in depth, with the developers and maybe gameplay
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>>379617671
>system administrator
>only 90k
Wow anon I know you're lying but you're fucking pathetic
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>>379619642
Nintendo published Dragon Quest IX in the west also.
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>>379607868
I don't care about them winning. I just want them to make games I'm actually interested in playing again.
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>>379607868
>no pokemon on the switch

they already lost desu
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>>379619936
You don't know that yet dontcha
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>>379619734
This. 90K for sysadmin? You're getting ripped off
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>Metroid
>trailers/gameplay of FE, Octopath, SMTV, XC2
>New IP
>Smash Port with Wolf, Snake and Ridley2Bigley
>Golden Sun Switch
>Pokemon Switch

Honestly, the only thing that will probably happen is trailers and Smash port.

Here's hoping, though.
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>>379619642
holy shitttt
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more xenoblade 2 (guaranteed)
new AC for switch (almost guaranteed)
new proper metroid (unlikely)

just those 3 Tbqh
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>>379620051
Give the poor guy a break, he hasn't worked a day in his life. He has no idea what a sysadmin is or how much money $90k is.
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>>379607868
They need to announce an interesting new IP that is aimed at a slightly older demographic without it being too weeaboo
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>>379607868
Focus mostly on Switch. 3DS is on it's way out.

Don't talk more about ARMS and Splatoon 2. One is out next week and the other is out next month, we don't need a section dedicated to know more about those games. Maybe a new ARMS character trailer but that's about all they need to show.

They need to not give Rabbids the spotlight. It's coming, and it will be on their reel but just shove it to a side and focus on the major reveals.

Reveal big titles. We know Xenoblade 2, Mario and such are coming but a big surprise always helps.

Smash. Smash is always hype, as long as there are character reveals.
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>>379620876
>new proper metroid (unlikely)
If Retro aren't working on Metroid, what are they working on?
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>>379622497
DK? New IP? helping out nintendo with other projects like they did with MK7?
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>>379608456
>Reveal 3rd party games on Switch
>5 threads every 15 minutes with
>>no games ahahahahahahahahahahah *breaths in*
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>>379622358
That's not gonna happen. With the announcement of Ultra SuMo you can bet there'd be more 3DS games for at least another year.
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>>379619642
I very much doubt that will happen
Sony would have to be pants-on-head retarded to let that happen
>>379618680
Yeah, but people watch E3 for games to be released in the future, not to see what we already know what we'll get
Of course that can end up backfiring spectacularly (hey guys we're doing that FF7 remake you always wanted, by the way it's gonna be a 3-parter and first episode is due 2020 lol), but it's why we're here nonetheless
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>>379607868
I'm a Nintenfag. I have a Switch and love it very much.
That said, Nintendo will not have a great E3 this year. Hopefully next year
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By showing games.
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>>379610989
Retard
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obvious warioware
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