>play american game >strongest weapon is katana

>play japanese game
>katana is also the strongest

dare i say, greatest weapon of all time?

>strongest weapon in skyrim
>anything other than handcrafted and enchanted dragon bone warhammer

>play american game
>eating burgers gives you HP

>play yuropoor game
>uhhh akhhuuully you weeb yuropoor steel is the best

>>379607558
>give example
>actually inaccurate

>>379608553
I play For Honor daily and can confirm this is true.

>play card game
>strongest deck involves dragons

>>379607558
Dragonbane is weak as shit you fucking dumbass.

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>play western game
>strongest weapon is katana

>>379608553
>Play canadian game
>Kill your enemy
>They win

What the fuck kind of stupid mechanic is this?!

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>>379607558

> ITT: westerners shitting on the best sword in human history

The closest thing to the quality of the katana would've been Damascus steel, and its techniques are long forgotten. And it doesn't even compare to the disposable shit that the europeans made

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>>379609182
Eat shit weeb

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>Play turkish game
>Weapons are balanced

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>>379609182

And if you google anything about katanas, you get hundreds of salty westerners writing walls of text about why their giant slabs of dirty steel (claymores) are better. A katana could cut that shit in half while it's being drawn out of its sheath

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>>379609182
Weak bait, but it always gets one.

>>379609182
I won't bite bait this bad

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>>379609581
Katanas are so great,japs used spears,bows and shields instead

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>>379609182
>best sword in human history
here's your (you)
>damascus steel
literally only claim to fame is how it looks
modern techniques blow it out of the water, cause its, you know, outdated as hell

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>>379609336

> posting anti-katana propoganda

Real katanas aren't allowed outside of Japan, and are passed down as family heirlooms. The shit you buy from the mall or made by white people on some shady website isn't the same.

>>379609794
everyone used spears, spears are the best

The Germans invented a better Katana called the Kreigmesser. Katana are just redundant now.

>>379607558
ITT: >muh real katanas are folded a gorillion times those are fake ones

>>379609910
What about halberds?

>>379609971
Didn't know about this one, my dick is diamonds now

>>379609856
>NBTHK smith
>KATANA ONLY IS STRONGEST AT FULL MOON AND JAPANESE SOIL AAAAAAA

>>379609910
lances*

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What's your favourite sword, /v/? Mine's the rapier

>>379609971
Großesmesser / Kriegsmesser is best swordfu.
Katana plebs can't even compete.

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>>379609336
Western swords were design to smash and pierce metal armor. they were heavy and bulky because of that. Katanas were designed mostly for 1v1 combat because that was the samurais way and the fact their armor wasnt even half as strong as western armor.

>>379610217
warhammers a best

>>379607728
>Implying it's not

>>379610217
Flamberge

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*tittyports behind you*

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>>379610217
Patrican taste. What you think about a Schiavona?

>>379610351
unf. Love me some Tessa.

>Not using an Axe (economy sword)
You can go from splitting heads back to splitting wood with ease. Literally pays for itself.

>>379610378
It's also nice but i don't think it's fit for thrusting as the rapier

>>379610339
u stoopid

>>379610378
That's a cool sword

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I like all types of swords.

>>379610440
Why not a halberd? Kill the tree like you would a knight.

>>379610339
Come on man,if you don't know what you are talking about don't spread misinformation

>>379609816
>modern techniques blow it out of the water, cause its, you know, outdated as hell
this is incorrect, true damascus steel is as good or better than most modern ultra-high carbon steels because of its carbon nano-tubes

>>379610572
go ahead and try chopping down a tree with a halberd, anon, let us know how it goes

>>379610592
Even when the bait is obvious, no true scotsman mildly annoys me.

>>379607558
Blade is Woe is better

>>379608553
That's because there's no culture ;)

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*telebraps behind you*

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>>379607558
*Teleports behind you*
Nothing personal, knave

>>379610217
Sabre. The cutting motion is just mesmerising.

>>379610638
ok, it doesn't work

>>379610349
flamberge isnt a sword, its a type of blade
many swords like the zweihander can have a flamberge blade

>>379610872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljExTEPNFnM

kino

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>>379607558
haha small nippon dick

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>>379610857

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why use a katana when you can use a odachi?

>>379611295
it's real flimsy and unwieldy for its length

>>379610646
Where is the fallacy?
I am talking about genuine Damascus steel forged from Wootz steel ingots made in India, not modern 'Damascus steel' which is just pattern welded carbon steel made to look like the old stuff without any of its desirable properties
Damascus steel was prized because of it's strength and resistance to snapping, not just because it looked nice

>>379611023
Best sword

>>379611396
if 4' 8'' ft tall rice farmers could wield it I should be able to one hand that shit

>>379607558
So basically the whole dark souls series?

>>379611602
>rice farmers affording one
>being allowed one
>actually using it

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>>379609971
>japanese make a worst version of the Kreigmesser and call it a "katana"
>japanese make a worst version of the lute and call it a "shamisen"
>japanese make a worst version of the flute and call it a "komabue"
>japanese make a worst version of the curry and call it a "kare"

It really makes you think

>>379607728
>being this retarded

>>379609182
>Memescus steel
>Not Toledo steel

>>379611712
dark souls is not american you faggot
the japs made it

>>379609794
Don't forget the actual best jap weapon,the tanegashima.

>>379611887
oh yeah then why is fromsoftware in english then
checkmate faggot

>>379610823
ass too big

>>379611968
>why is fromsoftware in english
>why is a company in english

>>379609336
Looks fishy

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>>379611937
>best jap weapon
>not kanabo
don't even touch me

>>379609856
>Real katanas aren't allowed outside of Japan, and are passed down as family heirlooms. The shit you buy from the mall or made by white people on some shady website isn't the same.

>this is what weebs believe
Japan isn't your holy land you fucking mongoloid.

>>379612071
RIP 5000$ sword tested by smith himself

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>>379607558
>katana
>strongest

>>379612047
If Dark Souls isn't American, then why do you play as a knight?

>>379612294
stop trying to bait me

>>379610339
Don't use a webm where the guy brass the sword by the fucking blade and kills him with the hilt that's retarded and makes you look retarded.

>>379612294
kek

>>379612329
stop being baited

>Game has great sword.
>You swing it around like a fucking ape and don't use any advanced sword tactics like Mordhau

>>379612370
>doesnt know what mordhau is
>calls other people retarded

>>379612524
>It's not dumb because it's a video game!

Twice as bad

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>>379612445
>Game has mordhau in it
>you use it against unarmored opponents just because it looks cool

>>379612370
i think you completely missed the point of that post

>Play rpg
>greatswords have haster swings
>warhammers deal the highest damage
>battle axes are right in the middle

>>379610779
Fuck off, Mr Prime Minister

>Game has a katana
>You swing it round like a fucking gaijin and don't use any advanced sword tactics like teleporting behind your opponent

>>379612693
what kind of battle axe though
one hand or two hand

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>>379612650

Except mordhau is a real thing. There's a reason why european swords have pommels shaped like it is. It's a makeshift buldgeoning tool.

>>379609856
>real

It's just a shape you fucking nerd

>>379609575
M&B is marvelous in that regard
Although I have to say that the great cleaver and the two handed sabre are some complete and utter bullshit

>>379609910
Cheapest, relatively versatile and easy to use*

Which makes them ideal for large armies.

>>379612910

Two handed sabres are still bad during castle sieges though. Learned that the hard way where I tried attacking a Rhodok castle and it got so cramped at the ramparts I could fucking swing the thing.

>>379610339
>literally copy pasted the warden from for honor

>>379612294
I guess the game Skyrim was made in Tamriel then, since you play as a fictional dragonborn.

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>All these people being baited so easily
Do people just not know what bait is anymore?

>>379612650
It's a thing in several medieval manuals.

>>379613258

You mean it isn't? I always thought Todd was from Highrock

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>>379612791
>Game has a katana
>can teleport behind your opponent but doesnt have a taunt that says “Psssh nothin personnel kid…”
what even the point?

>>379611854
Japanese culture is like the dodo,something stupid and weak that only thrived because it was on an island.
>>379612114
Stay mad weeb,the japs were so behind they had to learn from the fucking portuguese.

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>>379613091
>mfw I first assaulted Almerra with mainly infantry and no archers
You live like a madmen when you go assault a Rhodok castle with anything two handed, anon
I found that a Huscarl shield and a Steel War Axe did the trick
Although even that was hell, because fuck Rhodok castles
Fucking deathtraps

>>379613258
that joke would make sense if any knights were actually american
they were all european

>>379609336
> sword is reinforced by table/ground

Katanas aren't supposed to be used like that. They should only touch with 1 point all the time, hence the curved blade. And they aren't supposed to work against steel as well...

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>>379613106
How can one copy itself?

>>379613494
That's not for honor anon

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>>379609856
you can make a better sword today with our tech and modern metalurgy than any katana that was passed down

>>379613548

It is you dumbfuck. It's one of the teasers. He's even fighting an Orochi.

>>379613548
It's a For Honor cinematic.

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>>379613548
its the trailer for it

>>379611854
>japanese make a worse version of a bow for shooting of horseback
>inb4 power
they could just make a recurve bow like the mongols, instead they make that asymetrical looking piece of shit

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>>379611989

>>379613869

Funny thing is, despite its size, the umi bow just barely has as much penetrating power as the longbow.

>>379613869

You know, since the Mongols invaded them twice, they could have at least copied their bow designs.I guess Japs are that stupid.

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>>379613869
a longbow is pretty fucking big though, if we're talking proper english-frenchkillingatcrecy-fuckyourshitup-long bow

>>379614101
muh legends and shit

>>379614152

Well their precious legends didn't save them from the Americans. Fucking retarded superstitious idiots.

>>379609336
>using a sword meant to cut flesh and hammer it on a thick steel slab

Also that's from Welt der Wunder which is a german edutainment show notorious for being blissfully inaccurate and often flatout wrong.

>>379607558
>play american game
>best food is burger

>>379614384

All swords are meant for cutting flesh idiot, that's why it has a sharpened blade. Or else you would use blunt weapons for smashing armor.

>>379613318
If people never took bait, there'd barely be any discussion going on.

>>379614384
>>using a sword meant to cut flesh
Wrong. I've seen katanas cut tanks in half like cutting through butter in my siamese slideshows.

>>379614435
Name three games that do this.

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>>379614602
my gramps said that in vietnam they would shoot officers first because they used katanas instead of firearms

>>379614384
If it's only meant to cut flesh, then it has no claim on being the bestest most OP sword of all

>>379611989
gay as fuck

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Daily reminder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1582_Cagayan_battles

>>379613602
This.

Japan had shit iron and metal in the past.

>>379611989
Fuck off Irish

>>379614494
Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Curved swords are specifically meant to easily cut through flesh and bone with ease.

Straight swords are more all-purpose.

Japan never had a need for swords that are effective against heavy armor since their steel was so terrible.
That's why making katanas was such a complicated process.

Of course a katana is shit for hammering it against a thick broadsword. But what would be the purpose of that in the first place?

It's like shooting a rifle at a hammer and saying "Hurr, a sledgehammer is mightier than an M16!".

>>379609336
didn't even completely break the katana
>westerners btfo

>>379614891
>Spanish sources record the name of their leader as Tay Fusa, Tayfusu or Tayfuzu. This does not correspond to a Japanese name, but could refer to a medieval chieftain (大夫), called Dàfū in Chinese or Taifu in Japanese.
Lel, this is like the "Lou Tenant" joke

>>379613602

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel

what about this shit?

>>379615726

Obviously not a what a katana is made of obviously.

>>379609856
Been a while since I saw such a good No true Scotsman

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>>379615726
>Although many types of modern steel outperform ancient Damascus alloys, chemical reactions in the production process made the blades extraordinary for their time
says so in the wiki itself.

>>379615726
modern steel is better, it was the best shit back then, but we surpased it quite a while ago

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>>379615000
Also a shit smelting technique. They couldn't get rid of all impurities.

That's why they made a big deal out of folding the metal, so the impurities would be spread out evenly and not leave particular weak points somewhere in the blade.

>>379615427

Still doesn't excuse it being a shitty sword. Indian Tulwars, Romanian Kilij, Arabic Scimitars and German Kriegmessers were all strong and durable and at the same time did its job of being effective slashing weapons.

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Ninjatos>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>katanas

>>379615921
>no halfswording

kys

>>379615921

Japs are just more pretentious about it.

>>379616020

Ninjas werent real bro.

>>379616182
pretty sure they were but they were just thieves, spies and assassins and didn't use any ninjutsu bullshit

>>379616182
They weren't.

Shinobis were

>>379615971
What excuse?
I never said it's the best sword ever made.
There is no such thing.

The katana was a good weapon for it's time and place.

But swords are all just tools that were better or worse in some regards. None of them are perfect.

>>379616134
>western fighting manuals include really corny anime shit like finishing your opponent off by throwing your pommel at them.

I'm pretty such that devoting yourself entirely to training on how to use a sidearm is the medieval version of gunkata.

>>379616390

Shinobi-no-Mono to be precise. But ninjas as an actual military unit were just romantist legend. No such thing ever existed.

>>379616020
That thing is totally straight, with no curve at all. Disgusting.

>play first person shooter
>shotgun is the strongest weapon

>>379616561

>implying it isn't the bolt action rifle

>>379616561
>not ak-47

>>379616536
Just like every other blade.

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>>379615921
> 1000 jap soldiers/ronin cant even beat 40 european soldiers

>>379616687
Shit meant to qoute >>379614891

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>2017 and people still don't use dual shields

Y'all silly, block two niggas at once, block one nigga twice.

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>>379616687

Viva la Espanya

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>play japanese game
>best girl has western features

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>>379616971

Even Japs cant deny the superiority of idealized western women

>Play game
>Has barely any melee weapons
>Only mod on the steam workshop for new weapons is a katana
>Katana is more powerful than all other weapons/guns combined
>Mod creator has an anime avatar

HMM.

>>379616832
>using two shields as iron tarkus in das1 which has the greatest iteration of the greatsword
I will never forgive them for turning the greatsword into a giant paddle

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>>379617142
indeed

>>379617293

Gotta make it like Guts sword my man.

>>379611854
And they make worst version of PC and called it PS

>>379607558
Dragonsbane is a piece of shit weapon

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This thread is now about cute blonde girls

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>>379617293
Superb taste my man

>>379617351
Fuck guts sword if they want to make a guts sword make a guts sword instead of ruining the greatsword. Or hell even better give me the dragon bone smasher instead of the fart ultra lard sword.

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what game allows me to wield a 2 handed greatsword with one hand

>>379617824

Dark Souls, Diablo 2 and Skyrim.

>>379617824
WoW

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Sword threads on /v/ are just about the most painful things to read as there ever have been.

At least with other things /v/ is ignorant about, like bugs, /v/irgins express curiosity and everyone learns neat things about nature. Same goes for just about any /van/ thread.

But with swords, it seems that every /v/irgin alive is either trying to bait as hard as they can, or try in vain to show off their non-existent sword knowledge, all derived from videogames that don't follow any real fencing techniques or accurate data regarding steel quality, cross section, etc.

What the fuck gives, man? Why does no one want to learn? Why must everyone either pretend they know anything or blatantly vomit falsehood for (you)s?

>>379609182
It does not matter if it is the best sword or not, because swords are completely outclassed by all other weapon types, including daggers

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who /mace/ here

>>379618181
I don't give a fuck about swords, I'm here to laugh at people.

>>379618181

Doesn't change for the fact that a katana is a shit weapon. Stupid shit cant even cut the M1 Garand my grandpappy used to block when some Jap fucker charged their position at a battle in the Philippines.

>>379609856
Then how do you explain many Japanese fighting manuals explicitly stating that you do not parry with a katana because it's brittle and breaks easily?

>>379618335
Yeah okay, but for what?

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>>379618260
Why mace when you can flail?

>>379618181
katana v. longsword threads are a time honored shitposting tradition, predating fucking google.

>>379618664
So not a single person in this thread is serious.

I sure can hope so.

>>379618428
I dunno, I haven't laughed yet.

>>379618664

Why bother though? We all know katanas are shit. Even back in /a/, during the notorious KATANAH.gif phases, people would always shitted on the katana to fellate it greatswords and halberds.

I'm pretty sure the purpose of these threads is to single out the shameless weeb who loves Japan too much.

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>cheap to make
>outranges everyone in melee
>No fancy passed down ancient legendary techniques you need to learn to wield it properly
>A peasant could wield it and destroy anyone
Why are spears not nerfed yet?

>>379618881
it's just fun to have a retarded shitfling every now and again

>>379619114
>stab someone
>it gets stuck inside of them
>die to the guy beside him

Spears are garbage and only fit for skilless fodder.

>>379619114

Because it's the best and rank and file weapon. No need to bother.

Even peasants during times of war. What do they make? Instead of smithing shitty iron into a sword, they rather cut wood or bamboo into a long pointy stabbing stick.

>>379619114
*slices your spear in half*
heh nothing personell, kid

>>379607558
>ITT people who don't understand different weapons are better suited for different fighting conditions, enemies, and type of soldiers.

There is no "best weapon", there's only "best weapon for specific situation". How do you not understand this?

>>379619348

Problem is, even for that specific situation, the katana is still lackluster compared to other European steel.

>>379619431
It requires much less strength to use.

If nippon steel was so strong why did they wear sticks for armor?

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>>379619343
Unless you were pic related, i don't think you're pulling that anytime soon, anon.

True renaissance two handed swords were made for use by doppelsoldner - a specific rank of landsnekt (A certain band of mercenaries from the Holy Roman Empire, first commissioned by Maximilian I) who was given double pay to wield the sword and open up holes in pike formations, swatting and cutting aside both pike and pikeman to make gaps for friendly cavalry to come in and wreck shit

>>379619620
tiny island with limited, shitty resources and backward customs.

>>379619618

No it doesn't. The katana is weird for the sole fact that it's one of the few curve swords that require two hands to use it effectively. Most sabre-like weapons are one handed.

>>379619809

BANNERLORD FUCKING WHEN

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>>379619809
Pic related - what you were given to use against pike wielding peasants. Just long enough get the better of those long pikes while maintaining your distance.

>>379619809
i can't wait for the backlash against you historic weapon nerds
it's so fucking spergy so i can't imagine you'll escape attention for much longer

>>379619114
You forgot
>stops cavalry dead in their tracks unlike other weapons.

>>379620034
hello?

>>379620034

Won't happen since armchair general discussion of weapons has been a thing long before you were born son.

>>379619809
>tfw no landsnekt themed games

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>Using weapons
>Not Honing your body into a lethal weapon that is even greater then a sword or gun
Fucking plebs

>game has a wide variety of Western weapons
>Eastern weapons are katana, small katana, and really too long katana

I honestly prefer the Kilij.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikVMXhcjbYc

>inb4 Deadliest Warrior lol

>>379620369
>Deadliest Warrior
lol

>>379614891
>Be trained warrior class of your country
>Get BTFO by a group of half-drunk greasy Spaniards who were probably riddled with a million foreign diseases
(lol. Spaniards probably had shit running down their legs due to explosive eastern diarrhea and they still won.

>>379620369
>Apache beat a gladiator
They fucked up on episode fucking one

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>>379609126
Ah the power of captain cucked

>>379620320
Differing lengths of Japanese sword are given different names

Long sword
>katana
Arming sword
>Tachi
Shortsword
>wakizashi

Not every sword that looks like Jack's is a Katana, anon

>>379611602
Nope they wold use spears

>>379620369

>descendant of the turco-mongol saber is OP

Well, it's no surprising that Americans adopted the Mamluk sabre and not some shitty Japanese sword.

>>379620593
>Forgetting about their best sword the kodachi

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>>379618456
>Why mace when you can flail?
My nigga lets hope the next elder scrolls will have them.

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>>379607718
>play Japanese game
>eating burgers gives you HP

>>379607718
>play euro game
>drinking murican semen gives you hp

>>379620702
Edo period, pls go

>>379620780
Gonna get US Marines money

>>379620851
but it was best period anon unless you're a bloodthirsty savage who liked the sengoku era

>>379620318

how do I acquire Hanma gains?

>>379620593
>>379620702
>try to point out that the only Japanese weapons people care about are swords
>anons start arguing about the nuances of Japanese swords
This is exactly what I'm talking about.

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>>379621078
Kabuto and chain and weight> Any fucking Sword but games will never have them anon
>>379620990
Fighting anon

>>379620776
>TES sequels getting more weapon types
I'm sorry about that coma you've been in since 2004, some things have changed

>>379618456
because mace is actually real and effective weapon

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>>379607558
>play japanese game
>your sister is trying to steal your virginity

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>>379607558
>play japanese game
>love and friendship are the best weapon
>teen suicide is at a world wide high and people are marrying 2d girls in real life Japan

>>379621384

Good. Let those stupid nips kill themselves

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>japanese game
>gun does less damage than unarmed

>>379621175

but no one likes to fight these days how do I become a professional fighter

>>379621631

Live in Asia. Men here earn friendships with fist fights.

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>>379621631
Go to japan and fightt he fightclub underground of the toyoko arena

>>379621820
>>379621743

fug looks like I gotta move to japan I don't like asian girls tho

>>379622320
Shit fucking taste

>>379622674

I live in cali and a lot of fob asian go to the colleges here, they're cute but also vapid cunts and really materialistic or really prudish and socially unaware to the point that its embarrassing to be out in public with them really tight pussies though

>Play a video game
>Strongest weapon is a gun
wow

>>379607558
I LIKE

SOOORD

DATS A PEHSONAL WEPUN

>>379617824
>Gallowglass pommel

What.

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>>379607558

>play RPG

>there's no fist class of weapons/can't use your fists as weapons

>>379607558
>tool accessory

>>379607558
>play american game
>realize that europe can take credit for it since the people that made it are probably of european descent
>america can't do the same

>>379625785
>european descent
you mean african :)

>>379626363
no, Euripean
man originating from Africa is a liberal fake news

>>379610823
ass way too big

>>379626881
I think he meant blacks.

>play game
>there is no good weapon, only good skills