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WipEout Omega Collection

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>How many times have you been destroyed online
>What is the best track and why is it Amphiseum?
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>>379604786
>about 5 times
>Not Sol
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>>379604786
>Best track in HD
>Not based Tech De Ra
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does anyone else find it harder to barrel roll compared to HD on the ps3? A lot of the shorter window ones are really tough to pull off now for me. I think its because the analog sticks are longer on the DS4
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Is it worth installing pulse/pure to my vita or will they look shit scaled up to the larger screen?
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>>379606038
They're games for portable device play so I guess they'll look better on a smaller screen, but they still look very nice on a larger scree. PPSSPP auto scales them.
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Never played online
>Manor Top master race
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>Boot up HD to prepare for OC's arrival
>I've forgotten everything and am constantly hitting walls
FUCK, I used to be decent at this game. Guess it's time to practice.
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>tfw Elite Campaign Legend
I do not want to touch Detonator ever again (and yes, unlike HD it's been upgraded to require elite on Fury as well).

Just some stuff left on 2048 now, mostly zone event.. they're so long.
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>>379604786
you desperate sony ponys still shilling this? o i am laffing
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>>379607609
Xbot mad about not having games I can see
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>>379607184
oh right, I still have finish a race with pilot assist on, and get destroyed on novice

not sure how I'm gonna manage those two
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>>379606770
WO is that kinda game where you gotta re-learn everytime you play
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>>379604786
Omega Collection is shit, play Pure and Pulse on PPSSPP for an infinitely better experience, for free.
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>>379608423
>never ever
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>game sells with a $60 price tag here and hasn't arrived yet
fuck my gay ass country
i just want to go fast
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>>379608423
This. I love how easy it is to find a match online using ppsspp.
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>>379608423
why is it shit?
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>>379607609
>shilling same as enjoying
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>>379608423
>no.
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>>379607609
give it a rest dude wipeout games are great.
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>people calling the van uber op
its just a worse feisar fury
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>>379608634
How does online work with PPSSPP? Any Pure tracks?
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>>379609024
but they're calling it op because its stats are better than feisar fury save for shield, so Feisar fags would rather use that

then again it has a shitty bulky frame
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Best Omega song coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdNSA_nl_1c
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Best 2048 track:
>Downtown

Best HD track:
>Ubermall

fight me
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>>379609526
>not invaders must die
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>>379610014
lmao are you deaf
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>>379609526

Actual best Omega track coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CTxNRt6qsw
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>tfw hidden stats were never discovered
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>>379610116
>not liking prodigy
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do multiplayer 2048 count for the sp rank ?
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>>379610186
Very close contender. Second best.

>>379610014
It's a good song but not that incredible.
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>>379610364
don't think so, SP rank is very quick to raise anyway

if you elite pass everything you should be near or at 50, not sure exactly

there's no actual grind anymore
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I got a question
Is it a sin to let go of the thrust button every once in a while to make turns in Wipeout?
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>>379610493
meh i just have 2 zone and the combat to elite and i'm only 40
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>>379610559
yes, I can't think of a single instance where it's a good idea unless it's elimination/combat mode

I wish all ships were like pir-hana prototype and just accelerate forever so wouldn't need to hold a button
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>tfw can't turn for shit in wipeout games with analog sticks unless it's a PSP
Dualshocks feel like they're too tall and take too long to get out of the deadzone for turns in comparison to D-pad. They're slower.
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>>379611235
Just use directional pads, than.
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>>379611235
are you on PS3 still?

DS4 has virtually no deadzone (if used on PS4 anyway, on PS3 it gets given huuuuge deadzone)
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>>379611303
I guess

>>379611376
Still on PS3. Don't have cash for PS4, much less enough reason to buy one just for like, 3 games.
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R1/L1 or R2/L2 for airbrakes?
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>>379611679
R2/L2
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Never heard of these games, what's the appeal?

Looking to expand my PS4 collection
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>>379611928
Fast
Stylish
Pretty
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>>379611928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7_novAGjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVCdJDNzfe0

Fun
Fast
Difficult (at phantom speeds)
Physics
Good music
Good lore
Good community
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>>379611679
it's better to map them to L1 and R1 in my experience cause that way you don't have to press the trigger all the way to make tight corners and waste precious milliseconds
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>>379612809
i feel the other way because you can prepare them better and have smoother movement
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>>379604786
anyone wants my van uber code?
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>>379611679
I prefer L2/R2 for finer partial airbreaks, but it makes side-shifting a bit harder/awkward to trigger, and given side-shift don't cause speed loss (unlike turning), it's something you should use a lot

vast majority of pros will use something else, feisar_2097 even use square for one of his airbreak I recall
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>>379613290

anyone want my da vinci code?
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>>379612098
>>379612441
Sounds like Sonic
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>>379614302
I wasn't kidding but aight
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>>379608739
>why is it shit?
HD is inferior to Pure and Pulse in the first place due to the awkwardness of using Pulse's handling on Pure's tracks, and the Omega Collection fucks things up further with its godawful audio and visual changes.
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left, right, left
or
right, left, right?

You don't swing both way, do you?
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>just one lobby on flash
>enter it
>finish like 20 secs ahead
>ponder the meaning of life
>go back to single player
oh well
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>>379616203

Wipeoutzone will organize tournaments at some point, then you'll get a challenge
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>>379615846
>no.
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>>379615936
right, left, right?
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>>379615846
>HD is inferior to Pure and Pulse
No, dude. What the fuck. Pure feels like soap and pulse feels like driving on gravel.
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>>379614413
Yes and no

while there is autism involved, wipeout's strain is more like autists who love trains and memorize the timetables than cwc style fanfiction autism
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>>379616948
HD literally has the same handling as Pulse, and the low grip feel of Pure is what makes the game so fun, plus the low acceleration means there are actually consequences for taking corners badly.
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>>379618107
Pure's gameplay feels comfy but otherwise it feels like the ships are retarded and unresponsive at high speeds.
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d-pad or analog?
pros cons
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>>379607609
Nobody can enjoy anything anymore, it's non-stop fucking "shilling".

There's only been a couple threads and it's people who actually play. Fuck off nigger.
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>>379618312
dpad is quicker, but offers less pressure sensitivity.
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>>379618667
honestly that's not something you should be worrying about on higher speed classes, almost everyone plays with the dpad just because it's quicker
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Man I thought people were joking about the soundtrack. This is pretty inconsistent not sure how XDEV fucked up this bad.
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>>379619384
prefer analog even on phantom personally

almost finished getting the plat for OC too (just some 2048 stuff left)
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Shake it
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>>379619761
Don't break it
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>>379619723
plus, analog is a LOT better on DS4 than it was on DS3

feel pretty much no deadzone

don't bother using a DS4 on PS3 though, it use 3rd party controller settings and gives it a deadzone
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>the sway and design of the vehicles reminds me of the jets/mechs from Macross
>try listening to Macross Delta insert songs while playing
>mfw

https://soundcloud.com/anh-duc-ho-phuoc/absolute-5

This is the most fun I've had with a racing game in ages oh my god.
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>>379620550
Persona 5 soundtrack is better racing music
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Jesus christ how do people get perfect laps on Chenghou Project? That hairpin is a nightmare and then you've got that fucking sloped curve after. I can't stop hitting things.
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>>379622395
The sloped curve is the worst but atleast it's not Moa Therma tier where if you're driving anything heavy it can flip upside down
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When are they gonna add more tracks as DLC?
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>>379622395
>That hairpin is a nightmare
It wasn't designed for the handling model that HD uses, there's not much you can really do about it.
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>>379613290
Sure. If you're still giving it away.
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>>379622395
it's all about the entry line, which has annoying timing to get right

but it's really hard with ships with poor handling on phantom, I even see pros hit the wall a bit (which is still better than releasing the thrust, and there's a speed pad right after to regain speed).

If you really want it to be a perfect lap, then get a better suited ship for it.
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>>379622804
Never, the studio handling Omega is an experienced mobile game developer who is just taking the games as-is and making them work in PS4. They don't have the ability to model tracks from scratch.
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>>379622954
...and if you were already using a ship with 90+ handling then

well, git gud
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>Drop a bomb in a bottleneck part of the track
>Hear it go off a second later behind me
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>>379623129

They all the other unused tracks from pure and pulse at their disposal. One can only hope.
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>>379614413
Sonic isn't for big guys, tho.
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>online

i haven't tried, i've got to beat at least one of the campaigns before i do that
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WHY DID THEY HAVE TO CLOSE LIVERPOOL
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>>379623204
>drop a bomb
>didn't bother checking behind first
>someone was right behind
>get caught in the blast, which while does no damage still push a bit
>we both fall off track
>guy who was 3rd finish first
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>>379623397
I'd still try a quick race now and then when you see suitable lobby in-between campaign stuff.

Online was pretty alive on launch day but after losing constantly it seems everyone is back to single player now.

You'll be lucky if you even find 1 lobby, and it's typically all new players playing on a low speed class, and pros get bored of beating with a massive lead and would rather go do time trials
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>>379623214
>unused tracks from pure and pulse
Yeah with PSP graphics. Again, they do not have the talent to re-imagine these courses.
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>>379623979
A lot of devs from liverpool are now on Xdev which is working on the port. They could most likely do it.
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>>379623204
>Ubermall
>uphill part at the very end of the lap, last lap
>in second but basically my nose is right up his ass
>picked up a weapon from the last weapon pad
>'P L A S M A'
>slightly tilt nose towards guy in first
>shoot it
>'CONTENDER ELIMINATED'
>take first
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>can now join games online while races are in progress.

THANK YOU JESUS!
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>>379624729
it even tells you roughly how long left too

but the wait is never all that long, races are short

>that guy who sets it to 20laps and you didn't notice
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>>379624538
You're deluding yourself but whatever, it's only you who will be disappointed in the end.
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>>379625020
but I kinda like pure racing mode and high laps, can think of it as multiplayer practice
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>>379624538

How can they make a new shiTout when they are already working on a new MotorStorm????
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>>379625020
>it even tells you roughly how long left too
More games (mainly fighting games) need to do this. Give me a round count or something
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>>379625635
>new motorstorm
?
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>weapons off
just use pure racing mode instead of this shit, reeee
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>>379616203
>flash
lmaoing at ur life
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>>379627492
yeah life is hard when you want to go on phantom but literally no one plays it online and the only option you have left is a flash lobby
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Have you accepted the fact that FEISAR is the best team yet?
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a
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>>379627871
Thats not USAuricom
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>>379604786
>Why do I need PS Plus to play online!
Fuc.
I want to play online, but expired this month.
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>>379627871
lol feisar
lol
feisar
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>>379628778
Who even likes auricom?
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>havent played much wipeout, though like the series
>played 2048 a bit on vita
>doing campaign in omega
>the first "cup" race (big icon on the bottom left) in 2048 had to retry like 10 times to get elite finish because I kept getting 2:20 times
Fuck, I am not good at this. Went from around 2000 place to just under 300 in the leaderboards though for that race.

I plan on getting to at least top 100 for every track eventually. Gonna grind this shit hard.
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>never played WipEout before this
>get used to 2048's Speed Agility Fighter and Prototype ship types
>finish 2048 and move on to HD
>theres more ships but their stats are mostly the same
What the fuck
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>>379630096
I think their liveries are cool. Auricom stats were legit in 2097.
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>Old Goteki were mental faggots who joined AG racing to wreck people's shit instead of racing
>The only way to win races in Wipeout 3 as Goteki is to fuck up other ships with weapons so you can catch up
DEEPEST LORE
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>>379631324
is this how you're supposed to win A+ challenges ?
because the fuckers don't leave a fucking sec i always get pushed or missile'd every time i pass someone
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>>379631324
>Feisar predicted Brexit
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>>379630649
Each team has 1 ship in HD, and they all have different stats. The Fury DLC added another ship for each team, which were all upgraded in some way.
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I already got the trophy for elite passin all of 2048. Feels good man.
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>>379631574
>Assegai predicted the United African States
>Triakis predicted aussie shitposters before they became a meme
>F9000 predicted the FIFA corruption scandal
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>>379631592
Not him, but the beginner video posted a few days ago implied that the fury ships aren't straight upgrades, since there's a bunch of hidden stats and the fury ships "feel" different.

I usually play Quirex, but the Quirex Fury feels really fucking weird.
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can i play this on PC?
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Who here /nops4/?
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>>379632074
Can you play a PS4 game on PC? No, don't think so. The PSP games are perfectly emulatable though.
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>>379632157
yo
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>>379632074
>>379632157

Get a fuckin ps4 already. Jesus.
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>Combat Race on Sol
>10 seconds in
>get Quake just as everyone is going down that HUGE dip
>gets me enough points to get a Pass immediately
>and now everyone is going so slow that they can't make the gap at the bottom
>next 30 seconds is just everyone constantly respawning half way up the dip and then dying in the gap over and over
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Is this like F-Zero or what?
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>>379632205
ah well. havent played a wipeout since the 1st one, i was surprised they still made them. Is the music as good as i remember?
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How do you get loyalty points again?
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>>379631574
Will Brits collectively all choke on a balloon too?
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>>379631972
The Fury ships have "different" handling, but on the whole they perform better overall.
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did i hear right that they added some graphical effects? or is it literally the same game on ps3?
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>>379632324
Completely different.

>>379632386
Play the game, basically. You get loyalty for the team you play with.
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>>379632324
It's plays like Wipeout ;^)
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Who /ps4prowithmotionbluroff/ here?
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>>379632324
Not really. Thinner tracks, fewer racers - might not seem like such a big difference but it plays completely differently.
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>>379632504
They did.
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>"mach 1.4, elite pass" *blows up 0.5s after
damn 2048 zone elite passes, giving me more trouble than I thought even with new targets

especially bad when the track outline is white and the track glows white on top, need to do something like count turns so I don't start spacing out only reacting to the track.. because the track is no good
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>>379632324
>Is this like F-Zero or what?
No, it's more like Mario Kart.

>>379632504
Yes they added some effects and reworked the track sufaces in Omega which mostly just make the game look worse. The mag-strip in Moa Therma looks fucking retarded now.
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>>379632324
Not really, Wipeout feels more like actual "antigrav" since it is a lot floatier. FZero is more arcady. Both are good though, but very different. Also Wipeout has weapons.

>>379632342
People have mixed opinions on Omegas OST, but overall the series still has good music.

>>379632465
Ah, maybe I should give the Quirex Fury more of a try.
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>>379632276
that gap is fucked you can miss it even with the speed pad just before it
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>>379632324
in terms of sanic speed, yes. otherwise, no - more realistic physics and mario kart fuckery
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>>379632504
Graphical effects, some geometry was bumped up, better textures, new sounds for 2048 and 4k@60fps locked without a single drop.
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>>379630557
God speed, anon.
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>>379632541
>>379632589
>>379632617
>>379632705
>>379632719
>>379632753
I have seen the threads up some times, and saw that the machines float too, Thanks for the replies
I will check it
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>>379604786
>wipeout
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>>379631324
I love how liverpool did the lore. Anything they fucked up in terms of balancing and bugs they wrote it off as some event. Fucking meta.
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>>379632774
>new sounds for 2048
Yeah which are fucking terrible. They supposedly lost the original 2048 sound files and they're trying to spin it as "remastered sounds" in the hopes that mindless plebs eat it up.
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>>379632613
Hopefully every that has a pro. Those who don't should be weeded out and hunted to extermination.
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>>379633115
>Magazine promo was actually a promo made by protestants in the lore to convince people that jews were ruining ag racing
They even explained their fucking ads in the lore.
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>>379633208
They haven't lost the sounds it's just the quality was too low to play on a set of speakers bigger than the vita's. Ripping the sound effects isn't a problem so even if they were lost they could have just reclaim them from a retail copy.
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Listening to this song makes me want to fucking cry. Jesus I remember playing this and raging when I kept bumping into walls and shit. Got better tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V974MkN7v94
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>>379633208
All they had were the compressed sounds for in the Vita. Which would have sounded like garbage on something other than the tiny ass vita speakers. So they remade all the engine sounds from scratch.

Then they noticed that the HD/Fury sounds were a lot worse quality than the new ones they made, so redid those as well. I don't think the game sounds bad, but been a while since I've played 2048 on vita.
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>He dosen't race for E-UNITY
kys
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Does setting the audio to headphone made just make it quiet as fuck or something?
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Best pulse song 2bh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEJCQdee8vk
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>>379633453
They lost the original files which were high quality. Ripping them from a copy of the Vita release would not be good enough seeing as audio in Vita games was mastered with the machines terrible tinny speakers in mind.
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>>379633825
>They lost the original files which were high quality.
FUCK
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>>379633623
What's retarded is that they are using the same ship sounds for HD and 2048 now. The games are set 150 years apart and the original sounds of the 2048 ships were designed to convey how technologically crude they were compared to the other games in the series.
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>>379633629
>racing for yurofags
You should be gassed.
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>>379633925
Shit like this happens a lot in game dev. Lots of code and art files for older games are just fucking gone.

>>379634036
I wonder if it is to give it consistency since people will be switching between them? Weird either way.
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>>379633825
>They
Are you implying that the Liverpool team deleted original files to spite sony before being fired?
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>>379634107
>he races for corporate interests
disgusting
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>WipEout 2027
>Cars still on wheels like the 2048 intro just before anti-grav became standard
>cars are loud as shit like the ships in 2048

Would you buy it?
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>>379633815
I maintain that Pulse is the genuine best Wipeout game ever made, even today. The game just works as a whole and feels complete and content-rich in a way that HD doesn't. 2048 had technical shortcomings on Vita and has been aesthetically destroyed in Omega so it also falls short.
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>>379633825
>They lost the original files which were high quality

It always makes me wonder how the fuck do you lose audio files, or even fucking source codes for games? Reason why we got the abomination that was the silent hill collection is because the fucktards at konami lost the source codes.

Do they even store the files in a safe harddrive/disc? Did they accidentally delete it after they shut down liverpool? It's almost fucking inexcusable.
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>>379634405
how exactly it has been destroyed ?
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>>379634405
guessing ya mean the EU version.
>>379634470
didn't stop Microsoft with Phantom Dust.
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>>379634295
>wipEout
>wheels

Instant turn off. Would be cool easter egg/bonus tho.
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>>379634517
Sound effects ruined, as discussed above
OST is now complete trash
Visuals made eye-strainingly unpleasant due to massive overuse of glowing surfaces and bloom, especially in Zone mode
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>>379634470
There are a few high profile games with completely lost source code like Panzer Dragoon Saga or Kingdom Hearts. It's a pretty common occurrence in gaming.
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>>379634470
Probably something along the lines of code/assets being stored on a server and said server either dying or just being removed after being so old and no one backs it up again (also possibly due to failure of a harddrive or something).

I'd assume as well for really old games it was to save on resources... storage space back in the day wasn't nearly as free as it is now.

>>379634694
>OST is now complete trash
I actually still like Omega's OST. I can see why others wouldn't though.

>especially in Zone mode
Holy SHIT is this ever hard on the eyes. Hopefully they patch in an option to tone it down. Makes it hard to see in zone modes.
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>>379634405
>has been aesthetically destroyed in Omega
xplain.

>>379634273
>Not taking the AG redpill
>Not racing to fuck shit up
pleb
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>>379634843
>see in zone modes
>see
YOU MUST FEEL NOT LOOK TO SUCCEED IN ZONE!
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>>379634694
because the sound effect aren't the same as the vita doesn't mean they're bad though
some track of the OST are garbage imo like that fucking prodigy sound or whatever
i don't find it eye straining at all
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>>379635067
>because the sound effect aren't the same as the vita doesn't mean they're bad though
True, they're bad because they're just fucking bad. Listen to the weapon sounds, especially the Cannon - it's a complete joke compared to the originals.
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>>379634694
>>379635067
appart from the zone obviously but they're always been hard on the eye even in the psp games
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>>379634953
>pleb
I'm tracing your connection to your base and simultaneously deploying bombers. Good bye terrorist trash.
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>>379635315
it's sound like a machine gun i didn't play the original 2048 but frankly i fail to see what's wrong here
i don't know if that the same as in 2048 but the plasma looks like fucking shit compared to pulse and pure
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>>379634036
HD's shop sounds were fucking trash though.
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>that Qirex prototype
brrrrrrrrrrt
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>>379636248
They were quiet and subtle which was appropriate for the advanced level of technology. If you listen to HD on a good pair of headphones you really appreciate how much detail there is in the sounds for things like the air brakes.
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>>379635429
Oh anon, but I already have.
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>buy omega as first wipeout
>start with 2048 because it installs first
>bretty gud stuff
>try online
>can't find 2048, hop in an HD match
>it's on phantom
>get BTFO
>better art design
>better UI
>try the campaign
>all those fucking ships
>zone mode doesn't blind you
>more damage taken from hitting the wall

jesus christ i may not go back to 2048. also triakis a best
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>>379636531
They were boring either way. I loved the revving of 2048. Even TIE fighters sound cooler, I mean come on. HD's ship engines sounded like RC cars.
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>>379636753
>also triakis a best
A FUCKING TANK
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>>379636294
too bad the trophy to win a race by eliminating every opponent is gone

that was pretty much its own personal trophy

people even won A+ race events that way
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>>379636753
>also triakis a best

Fucking aussie GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR RACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Why are we so much better AG Systems bros?
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>>379637193
>first race
>"no weapons allowed"
>use qirex prototype
>eliminate everyone
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>zone 60 on a GLOWING rockway stadium
>AG-System prototype can barely even make the hard turns at high speed
>need to get the line/timing right
>can barely tell where the turns start because everything is white
send help
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>>379637280
>muh purity of the race
van-uber needs to stay as a dead team
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>>379638135
>kid needs his pew pews to win
embarrassing
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>>379638135
>mfw I love using Van Uber for every time trial type race
>use Quirex otherwise
Van Uber just feels so goddamn good to pilot.
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>tfw got wipeout hd/fury from the ps hack in 2011
>didn't really click with me apart from zone mode which is bonkers
It's truly a supersonic type of feel. The only trophy I have is zone zeus, and I got it on anulpha pass.
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