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daily reminder that ffxv was retconned from the franchise

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daily reminder that ffxv was retconned from the franchise
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Noctis is already confirmed coming tho.
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>>379591632
wait for E3 trailer
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>>379591632
WHY are the gods design so fucking dumb: Spiritus is Zetch transformed and Materia is Fiore from Star Ocean 5 in white.
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Who are the other characters?
It's hard to identify them since none of the models looks their ingame sprites.
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>>379591632
God you're retarded. Noctis is just another badly hidden character.
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>>379592575
Guy at the front with sword and shield is warrior of light from FF1, guy to his right is from FF2, skinny fucker in the back is FF5 and guy to his left is FF4. Only name I remember is FF4 guy is Cecil.
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>>379592575
white hair dude in the back is cecil
brown hair beside him its butz
blue armour is warrior of light (ff1)
bandanna dude is firion (ff2)
midget is onion knight (ff3)
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>>379592575
How can you recognise Onion Knight from III but not Cecil?
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>>379591632
> Vaan being the main character of 12
> Not Basch, not Balither, Vaan.

Por que!?
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>>379592575
how the fuck do you not recognize warrior of light, and cecil?
I never played a final fantasy except for XV and even I know them
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>>379592575
Nigga you don't recognize firion and onion knight on the right, FF1 warrior of light up front, and butz and cecil in the back? They look like their concept art.
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>>379591632
reminder that 1v1 is confirmed
since it seems to trigger people that much the base game is 3v3
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>>379593081
Are you retarded?
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>>379591632
>Terra
>Blond

D.R.O.P.P.E.D
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>>379593363
No, mexican.
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>>379593195
>how the fuck do you not recognize warrior of light
He isn't red for starters.
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Something in Y'shtola's face is off
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>>379593394
alt costumes senpai
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>>379593641
that was just the warrior class, main character of I could be anything
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>>379593641
Maybe if you looked at the concept art, you wouldn't be so incredibly stupid.
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>>379591632
Based Team Ninja
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>>379593880
the majority of alts in Dissidia should have been the main outside
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>>379592575
For some reason, some of the Dissidia characters follow their Amano designs instead of the actual in-game designs like Warror of Light and Bartz.
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Kuja is cute! CUTE!
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>>379594196
Every single one that had an Amano design follows the Amano design, not just some of them.
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>>379594196
i never really noticed. i thought it was just dissidia designs
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>>379591632
Noctis has not been added yet, that's why.
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私が誘おう

私が○○を奪い尽くす

壊してやろう

母さん........
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>>379594962
reddit spacing
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>>379591632
Where the fuck is Ramza
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>>379595282
No-mainline games and Vilains are not on the picture.
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>>379593394
The main design is based on Amano's art not Nomura's sprit.
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>>379595532
Wait, you mean Ramza and other non-mainline games are actually in this?

Is our boy Marche "shhh no sleep, only tears now" Radiuju playable?
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>>379595827
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>>379595962
is this a fucking moba
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I played this a bit in arcades in Moonland last year and it seemed fun, very similar to the previous games in terms of combat except with the whole 3-character thing that I'm personally not a massive fan of. My main issue is if it lacks the single player content and the items/builds system that made the series interesting. If it's just a fighting game I probably won't get it.
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>>379595962
>Ramza is more feminine than the actual female characters
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>>379596175
The only girls in are a dumb C@, the inferior terra, and a fucking proto potato.
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>your game's representative is kill
What did Yoshida mean by this?
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>>379591632
Why have they used Heavensward's costume for Y'shtola? She uses the vanilla/ARR one as the default one, and she seems the only character with another costume in the entire poster. Seems a bit odd.

>>379593081
Vaan has always been the poster boy for XII, despite having the relevance of a potato.
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>>379596473
He finally noticed that her new design is complete turd.
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>>379591632
>Only on PS4

Think getting hold of a PS4 will be worth it when it comes out?
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>>379596129
no, you dumb fuck
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>>379596783
Yea, the ps4 is going to be dirt cheap next year
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>>379596473
She will get resurrected.
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>>379596783
I'm thinking about getting one myself. It has Persona 5, Bloodborne, Gravity Rush, Yakuza 0 and Nioh. Depending on how many of these you're interested in, it might be.

Also has those progressive cinematic western games like Horizon, Last of Us 2 and Uncharted 4 if those are your thing.
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>>379596473
KO =/= dead
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>>379596783
>>379597247
I'm waiting for PS5.
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>>379597538
>not waiting PS6
Chump.
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Has Gabranth come back yet?
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>>379597247
My interest in games mainly revolves around how cheap I can get them on key sites.

Although if I buy a large enough external HDD for the PS4 I can buy game keys online and just download em.
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>>379595962
I don't understand why they decided to have so few characters in comparison to Duodecim on the PSP.
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>>379591632
Why Yshtola instead of Arbert though
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>>379597807
no
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I'm excited, and i'm definitely buying it. I spent at least 30,000 yen playing it on a business trip to japan. Mained tidus and I even participated in a tournament (which I lost handily, but still, it was fun).

I'm interested to see how it works on PS4, the game looks beautiful in arcades and frankly the particle effects are what sell it.
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>>379591632
>Anyone wanting Noctis when Jecht still isn't back.
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>>379596520
This. Also if i remember correctly basch was the original mc but they changed it to vaan to appeal to "younger audiences" i love that game tho is verry underrated.
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>>379597819
All duodecim characters are returning. They are still adding characters.
>>379597807
Gabranth will probably take some time since he need a complete work after they dropd the exburst thing.
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>>379598175
*a complete rework.
*dropped
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>>379597819
>New engine
>New models
>New core battle system
>New hardware
>New developer
Duodecim was basically just an expansion pack. The engine was already built, all they did was make some new assets.
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>>379598105
Give it time, they're adding back the essential remaining veterans in these months: he'll be on the list.
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>>379598371
What I find funny is

>New Developer

People getting hyped for this when it's very possible to not have ANY of the charm the origional did.
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>>379591632
>vaan
isn't ashe the true protagonist? just saw the most recent zodiac age trailer
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>>379598817
I'm not saying it'll be better for it, just that it's a different direction of development.
I played it on Arcades in nipland. It didn't particularly have that clean charm the original had, and the gui is a mess, but it still has tight controls and decent combat.
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>>379598371
>New developer
Yup, so this is the reason I feel NT lack something from the original.
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>>379598874
Yeah, and yuna is the protag of FFX, and firion is the furthest fucking thing from the protag of FF2.

It's the characters you think of when you think of the entry in the series. And everybody thinks of vaan.
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>>379592575
> doesnt recognize the most recognizable characters

wut
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>>379591632
>Cecil is not in his default costume
why is this bothering me so much
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>>379591632
Interesting how they didn't include Noctis...
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>>379599042
Yeah, Cat and Cecil kinda bothering me to hell as well.
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>>379598817
The game's been out for years, it's just as good, if not better. Here, check out some vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um5gA7FGFBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU3XoYvxXOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c6i6kAAEqU

It's basically just an expanded upon regular ass dissidia. It's fun. It's really fun, I hope they offer a beta so people get the chance to try it though, cause I know tons of people who are just totally unaware of the arcade release and think it's gonna be fucked.
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>>379599025
>everybody thinks of Vaan
>im-fucking-plying
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>>379592575
How the fuck do you recognize characters from 11 and 14 but not Cecil

I mean 4 is the only final fantasy game worth playing besides 6
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>>379599287
Does it have a story mode or any RPG aspects to it or is it just a fighting game now?
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Still waiting.
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>>379599516
The arcade version has an arcade... mode, which tells a basic story with character intros/dialogue based on the main you choose and those that your partners choose, but there's no like full on story mode, since it's an arcade title, the main draw is the online play. I'd say they'd be fools to not include some sort of story mode in the PS4 release though, it wouldn't surprise me if they did, look at tekken.
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Vaans design looks decent in this in all honesty. I like it.
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I just want to play the original, do t care about the new ones with new shitty characters.

Also I heard there is a great Dissidia 1 community.
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>>379599025
>everybody thinks of vaan

hell no, not if you play more than 2 hours
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>>379599739
Whatever
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Nervous about it being developed by TM
>>379599030
MMOfags
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>>379599025
Nobody thinks about vaan. Penelo even makes a joke about it in the first dissidia when collecting the cards.
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>Instead of getting a Final Fantasy Warriors / Heroes musou spin off, we get another weird 3D fighting game.

Why, i just want to slash hundreds of enemies with Cloud and Zidane...
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>One of the few people to actually likes Vaan to an extent
Also he was suprisingly fun to play in Dissidia
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>>379599516
they said NT will not have story mode but there will be a story, this is kind of a red flag for me.
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I didn't want to make a thread for it and since this is a final fantasy thread can someone tell me where to go in FFVII i just saw that big snake that sepiroth killed
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>>379591632
Lightning is best.
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>>379592559
Why did they even change Chaos and Cosmos anyway
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>>379600116
into the cave
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>>379599025
in duodecim at least, lightning most certainly felt like the protagonist
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>>379600161
Darn straight
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>>379600338
what cave?
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>>379600202
probably ran out of ideas to do with them after the first two games.
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>>379600519
The whole shtick of Dissidia was that their war was literally eternal
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>>379591632
>They took out my boy Gabranth.
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>>379591632
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>>379600202
Because they want to make them playable at some point and it's easier to make completely new characters with human designs than dealing with Chaos' size or the potentially negative fan response of changing his design.
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>>379600779
manlet
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>>379599369
>How the fuck do you recognize characters from 11 and 14 but not Cecil
It's almost as if the promotional art for the earlier Final Fantasy games was not consistent with how the characters were actually drew in the game.
>I mean 4 is the only final fantasy game worth playing besides 6
What a coincidence! You like the the two games that were localized for the Super NES back in the day. I'm sure childhood bias had no part in that. III and V were pretty good too. I like II too, but I'll admit that it's a bit of an acquired taste.
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>>379600202
Different setting, different universe, they want to differentiate this one from the PSP version. Judging from the design though, I can tell that Nomura don't give a fuck about this project that much, lol.
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So I'm assuming the gameplay will still be shit as it was back on the psp
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>>379599369
It's not that surprising, FF 1-6 promo art are very different from the in game sprite.
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>>379595962
where's my nigga Exdeath?
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>>379601164
He was in the trailer so he's fine.
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>>379592575
Did this faggot nigger really didn´t know who is Cecil ?
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>>379592575

Where is the guy from tactic ?
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>>379591632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giI1sYmGOBk
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>>379601164
he's def in there, but they removed the whole "counter" sort of system he had in the PSP games.
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>>379601294
>>379595962
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>>379601164
fear the void
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>>379595962
>meme Kefka and Sepphiroth

Haha very funny. Now where is Rubicante you faggots ?
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>>379601492
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>>379595962
Summons are playable?
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>>379591632
JECHT WHEN?
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>>379595962
>ace
>yshtola
>shantoto

Who the fuck are these? And why is ramza the cutest girl there when he isn't even a girl?
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>>379601617
DURR HURR HURR.
VRRROOOOOOMMM.
HURR.

>>379600731
Isn't FF12 Zodiac Age coming out soon? Maybe they might reveal him in soon to capitalize on the hype from that.
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>>379601638
IF I could recall, they're sorta like Roshan from Dota or something.

A group can summon them to wreak havoc on another.
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>>379592575
You know characters from 11 and 14 and even 3 which was just a character class, but not Cecil or Bartz?
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>>379595962
Does anybody even care about Squall and FF 8 ?
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>>379601360
It was hard to use but absurdly broken if mastered. I don't blame them
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>>379601915
yep

Also he was fun as fuck in the last game
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>>379596473

Nice spoilers faggot
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>>379601774
unlikely, they are going to reveal new characters every month from August to November.
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Has anyone played the Arcade version yet? I know they changed some things from previous Dissidia games - does it feel much different? Better? Worse?
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>>379602280
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>>379602307
It's going to be playable at the E3 2017.
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Pretty sure Noctis is in.
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>>379602307
read the thread. There's videos posted.

And yes, it's changed for the better. Of course some people are gonna be purists and say it's worse cause it's changed at all, and while that's a fair criticism in regards to the 3v3, I think the game ultimately ended up better because of it. The core gameplay and ideas are the same. Deal damage, get a break, kill, destroy their HP.
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>>379602485
I won't be at e3 to play it myself.

>>379602509
>Deal damage, get a break, kill, destroy their HP.
That's fine, then. I'm still not feeling 3v3, though.
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>>379601915
Yes. Fuck you. Squall is best FF protagonist.
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>>379602584
It works well in japan cause infrastructure there makes nation-wide play like sub 30 ping. You sit down at a cab and then you have 5 other people to play against instantly and it's all nearly flawless. I can't see it working that well in the west, which is a shame, but who knows, maybe they'll have some top tier netcode.
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>>379602727
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>>379602830
Is there still a single player mode/story mode?
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>>379591632
Is this a fanmade ad or something? Where'd you find this?
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>>379602895
I bet you're a disgusting Zidane fag.
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>>379602923
arcade mode, no story mode, but it's an arcade game so that shouldn't be a surprise. There's story elements and you fight through up to the big bads but it's not filled with dialogue and extra missions and shit.
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>>379603080
PS4 version has a story.
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>>379603080
That's a shame. They were never good, but I enjoyed playing through the story modes of the other games.
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>>379603035
I am actually an Edge fag. Fuck off, you MC normie.
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>>379603182
Who's to say they won't add it? I said it before, look at tekken 7.
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>>379599369
True
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>>379591632
Tidus's design is when Nomura peaked his edgedom.
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So who are people planning to main when this game finally comes out?

Squall fag reporting in
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>>379603472

lolno
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>>379603559
I'll wait and see the rest of the cast first as it's very different from the original Dissidia.
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>>379603472
>Tidus
>Edgy design
Are you retarded?
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>>379603559
GIRUGAMESH
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Still haven't clean this shit up, I see. Hopefully there will be an option to sort this hud out
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>>379601516
Fuck that guy, i still have nightmares from that battle.
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>>379603676
amazing taste
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>>379603559
Whoever's the best, I tried to main Cecil the first game but he was just too terrible and I had to switch.
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>>379603780
what's this 1 2 3 4 shit in the bottom right? Can you switch party members on the fly?
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>>379603559
Probably Shantotto, depends how much they changed her.
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>>379603997
i never really got the hang of Cecil properly either, guess i just preferred having all my tools in one basket rather then swapping forms.
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>>379603559
My boy Cloud and maybe Noctis, depending on how he plays here.
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>>379603560
Squall's, Cloud's and Lightning's costumes are at least realistic. Tidus's is just cringy.

>>379603673
>Nomura peaked his edgedom.
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>>379603559
Is there any hope of Steiner getting in? Cause I'd main him if he does.
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When are they going to reveal him?
I want to see his armor in HD.
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>>379604131
automessages to communicate with your teammates.
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>>379604272
>Smashing though blocks without a care in the world with Cloud's ex mode
was there a better feeling?
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>>379603182
It's been confirmed they are making a story for this game.
>>379604307
You can see his armor in HD next month!
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>>379604307
Man I really love the armor's design in the series. XII and XIV's are Yoshida's right?
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>>379604272
What's that skin-tight Cloud from? That's absolutely his best design
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>>379604642
Mobile phone game, G-bike i believe
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>>379604578
You know it. He's an amazing artist
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>>379604272

boy keeps using more and more mascara
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>>379602089
it was in the fucking TRAILER for the game
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So what are the odds that they decide to put Sora in dissidia?
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>>379603559
Lightning and maybe Y'sholta
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>>379603559
Cloud and Firion. The plebest of plebs.
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>>379602089
It's under a spoiler tag you fucking moron.
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>>379603559
Kain if he's there. If not, either Firion Laguna or a hypothetical Thancred.
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>>379604997
>Firion
>Pleb
you take that back
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>>379604296
not before vivi, garnet or beatrix
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>>379592992
Warrior of Light (or Wol if you wanna think about Mobius), Firion, and Bartz are the names you're looking for
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>>379600896
>What a coincidence! You like the the two games that were localized for the Super NES back in the day. I'm sure childhood bias had no part in that
Of course not since I'm 24 and my first console was an n64
I never got to play classics until I got a job, paid for them myself, and formed my own opinion
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>>379592575
>Not knowing Cecil and Bort, the two with the best games
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>>379604467
I'm just loving the fact that they're giving him a more determined look rather than his AC, forlorn expression. Dude looks like he's READY.
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>>379591632
What's Noctis's HP attack going to be? Armiger? Magic? Man, if warp strike is gonna be so OP.

>>379591980
I thought amazon already deleted the sentence where they mentioned about Noctis.
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>>379605092
Kain's confirmed senpai
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>>379605330
The look really does fit him better
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This messenger stands at your gate and tells you he's ready to let go. What do you do?
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>>379605361
Fuck yes I love goesfast spearmen
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>>379604460
and here i thought the game would actually turn out faster and more technical than the psp games. lame.
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>>379591632
where the fuck is ramza
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>>379604467
>one shotting your friends with cloud maxed out vs their meme builds
I miss high school now
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>>379605580
>That kid that had the KH skin
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>>379605576
never ever ;_;
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No, of course give Lightning her Odin swords while everyone uses their defaults. That's fair.
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>>379605539
It is faster. But the dissidia formula is inherently slow overall, that's just an issue with the core philosophy of the break shit, no matter how fast you make techs, no matter how capable of parrying you allow people to be, it's always gonna be slow.
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>>379595962
I want to fuck Ramza
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>>379605760
Cloud's buster sword is iconic and legit looks like it would hurt you worse than his Ultima Weapon.
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>>379604467
Jecht blocking all of Laguna's machine gun shots.
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>>379605760
Lightning is a literally goddess and Odin alter ego.
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>>379605652
What is Rin doing to Kiri's boy?
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>>379605580
>using cloud or squall
fucking casual
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>>379606008
playing Jecht in general is pretty satisfying
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>>379604307
You can see it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nis0ewlsnec
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>>379603559
KAIN

Squall's cool too, and Kefka was always fun to fuck around with.
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>>379605760
Cloud sword OP weapon that can kill angels and evil gods what are you talking about?
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So can you "I'LL CRUSH-I'LL CRUSH-I'LL CRUSH-I'LL CRUSH-I'LL CRUSH-RELEASE THE FURY" in this game?
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He is going to be added, r-right?
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Why do they ALWAYS fuck up squalls design in dissidia

HE DOESNT LOOK LIKE THAT YOU NIP FAGGOTS
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>>379606194
Producing an heir to the Tohsaka bloodline.
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>>379600202
Their story is over. The Warrior of Light might not even be the same one.
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*blocks your path*
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>>379606571
>When you knock someone down as Garland
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>>379605408
Tell him it's too late for whispers and too late for the blush.
Then I smack him with my pimp cane
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>>379606443
>All these cool assets wasted on a gacha game
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>>379604179
I hear this time we'll be able to switch Cecil's forms freely.
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>>379606198
>he got one shot by a cloud
I play to win nigger.
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>>379605760

They all get their ultimate weapons for EX mode.

Or at least they did. EX mode is reworked now and I don't know if they even change appearance anymore. A shame if they don't though, especially the characters with alternate super forms in their own games, like Zidane and Terra.
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>>379607340
they do.
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SORROWFUL WATERS
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>>379607340
>Terra.
>Ex/Ultimate form
>Better
I don't like my women barely human, anon.
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>>379606720

Their story was over after the first game though. The sequel was a prequel, and established that there had been a dozen more iterations of the story before it. They could easily have made this another of those cycles.
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Are you able to use all of a character's moves now or do you have to switch them out like the previous games?
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was ffxv so bad? I thought it looked boring as fuck but several threads on /v/ made me believe it was okay
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>>379607505

>Preferring your women with clothes on

Gay

>>379607573

Even worse, you can only have ONE(1) move that deals damage on each character now. I wish I was kidding.
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>>379607037
>tfw gacha trash celebrates the series 30th anniversary more than SE themselves
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>>379607671
It was fine. But "fine" coming after around a decade of hype and constant demands to raise everyone's expectations is essentially "shit"
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I sincerely hope we get the old quotes and eng dub actors back.
I need my dose of
WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW! WELL, NOW!
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>>379607671
It's down to 30 dollars now. Probably worth
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>>379607793
THAT WASN'T BAD AT ALL
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>No Agito/Type Zero rep
Dropped
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>>379596473
I though this was an MMO.
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>>379607495
BENEVOLENT WINDS
I WONT BE DEFEATED
HAAAAAAH

Even with Tifa and Yuna I found myself going back to Terra for a while in Duodecim. Get ready for Onion Knight x Terra, part 3.
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>>379607986

>>379595962
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>>379608043
Tifa and Yuna better be back in this game
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>>379608095
Guess I'm just an idiot
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>>379607989
it is
thats a cutscene of the badguy "killing" Y'shtola
she's probably fine
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Yuffie
Seifer when
Auron when
Caius when
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>>379599287
>better
> one hp attack
>no ex bursts
>no ex modes
>3 v3 only
It's shit
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>>379608254
I didn't know MMOs had so much plot.
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>>379608043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZCOz4gcfMY

Terra was pretty fun, her combos were insane.
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>>379608374
FFXIV has far more focus on its storyline than most mmos. Like, far far far more.
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>>379608374

All MMOs have cutscenes. Even Tree of Savior has plot. Even Tera has cutscenes. This is 2017, son.
All of their writting, and specially XIV's, suck horribly though.
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>>379608429
Interesting. I'd probably pay it if it weren't sub-based.
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>>379608374
The plot is kind of the difference maker/selling point of this one. You can't advance in some of the content unless you do plot missions. It's all pretty fun, though
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>>379608551
>pay it
*play it
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>>379608515
I mean its not exactly high art, but its pretty much your typical final fantasy storyline.
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>>379608374

FF14 has more fully animated cutscene time than every other FF game put together. And the story is better than most of them too.

Hell, one particularly extravagant cutscene is literally over one and a half hours long, fully voiced and animated, and plays out like a full movie.

It's astonishing that there are still people who don't know this and think that because it's an MMO, it's not a real Final Fantasy game.
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>>379608570
>fun
>200 missions of cookie-cutter walk-around quests with no challenge, outdated instances that get entirely one-shotted/streamrolled by high level folk
>200 more missions of deserted "high" level areas prior to the expansion with terrible farming design and a "tense" theme, despite once again you just use party finder and everything dies automatically in your path
>can't do ANY of it with a friend, except instances

So much fun.
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Why's that Dead Cat HEALER being featured in a fighting game? I know why and its a bad poster character choice.
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>>379608814
>It's astonishing that there are still people who don't know this and think that because it's an MMO, it's not a real Final Fantasy game.
It's common for people to not know a lot about things they don't pay attention to.
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>>379608887
She was in the last Dissidia game too, and she was a fine addition.
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>>379608998

What? No she wasn't. Y'shtola has never been in any dissidia games.
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>>379608960

These are people who do pay attention to the Final Fantasy franchise, idiot. Not random people off the street.
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>>379609128
to be fair there are like twenty final fantasy games. not many people are on top of all of them.
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>>379609074

Not that guy (who is obviously retarded and confusing her with Prishe) but the Dissidia arcade game with 'Shtola has been out for like two years now.
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>>379609074
Fuck me. I was thinking of Prishe.
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>>379609230

This is just an enhanced "port" of it though, so it's not really anything I'd count as a new game.
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>>379609198

I don't think you understand.

There are many, many fans who could name every single character and plot point in all the single player Final Fantasy games, and still have zero clue what the MMOs are like. Those are the people I am talking about.
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>>379609307
No, the PS4 version is the port. The arcade version is the main game.
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>>379606617
would be fine if they just lost the stupid skirt. Adds nothing to the design.

Also let's get his KH Leon outfit, that was good. Or a new design would be nice.
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THUuuuuuuuuuunDAGAAAAAAAAAA
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>>379609387
Have you considered that the people you were replying to may not have been those kinds of people?
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>>379609701

If they weren't, why would they be in this thread?
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>>379608814
>>379609128
I don't ignore FFXIV because I don't think it's a real FF game, I ignore it because it's a subscription-based MMO and, as someone whose mood to play a particular game often turns on a dime, the subscription model of MMOs doesn't appeal to me.
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>>379609387

And you can't exactly blame those people.
The MMOs really still play out exactly like an MMO. Heavily level gated content that is achieved mostly through grinding for hours at a time and feels very dissonant in many cases as half the storyline comes through talking with NPCs as you do fetch-quests and walk-abouts in cities.
FFXI was not an easy pill to swallow.
And FFXIV is 90% unfun filler.
If you add to that most of FFXI and FFXIV makes you a literally who while at the same time still being a ch00san wan, while constantly focusing on different main characters that get switched over per expansion, it's not rare people lose track.
Specially when they choose character like Shantotto and Y'Shtola who, again, literally who side characters that aren't even the main characters of the storyline of the MMOs in order to represent the games outside of the actual MMOs.
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>exdeath has a 25 second long debuff that drains 400 bravery every second
what the fuck
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>>379609789
You seem to be under the impression that a person has to be able to "name every single character and plot point in all the single player Final Fantasy games" to be able to enjoy or care about Dissidia.
And how you reached such a conclusion is beyond me.
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>>379609438

That'd be what I was saying, anon.
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>>379609387
>>379609884
These desu
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>>379609884
Y'Shtola is probably one of the most main non-PC characters in FFXIV. Maybe surpassed by Alphinaud or Minifillia but shes dead lol. Add in the waifubait aspect and its not that surprising shes the rep.
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>>379591632
>MMO shit in there
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>>379603559
Cecil. I think he was legit the character I was best with in Duodecim. He's a bit tough to get the hang of, but he's really fun when you do.
>>379604179
>swapping forms
Was it really that hard for people to get? Attacks when he's on the ground will be Dark Knight, which is a bit more of a mid range form, and aerial attacks will be Paladin form, which is is basically what you'll probably end up being in most of the time.
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>>379609907
fear the void
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>>379609907
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>>379608382
Holy shit

I was a terra main, but I was casual as fuck so I had no idea you could do combos like this
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>>379610256
>final fantasy characters in a final fantasy crossover game
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>>379610090

It's surprising. Because she only shows up actively as of the expansion.
Before it she shows up in the Titan quest and by the very end of the quest. To then "die" for the first time and be off-screen until the expansion.

There's far more on-screen characters than her, most of all Alphineaud who is the ACTUAL main character of the game.
So yes, she's there for the waifu bait and because japs eat Mi'qote for breakfast.
But as a "why do people not know about the storyline?????" point, she's about as relevant as the old original FFXIV cast, really.
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>>379610090
Should've just put my man Hildibrand here instead.
This series needs more joke characters other than Gilgamesh, and I love Gilgamesh.
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>>379608887
I've never played XIV but isn't her class something like Evoker or some shit which is a mostly support class but actually has some offensive abilities?
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>>379610565
Ultros when?
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>>379607986
>want Agito shit
No worry, they're in and it's fucking disgusting.
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playable freya when
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>>379610714
..in the 2.0 hildebrand storyline
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>>379610762
>>>/fur/
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>>379610617
She's a conjurer. In 1.0 they could summon the elementals with all sorts of magicks from all elements. In 2.0 she's basically a white mage. with some earth and wind spells.
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>>379610565

This quest was cancer from start to finish and was one of the biggest eye-openers as to the kind of crowd the shithole that FFXIV became was aimed towards.
So much development time spent in this 10 year old humor garbage, I swear.
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>>379610815
where do you think you are
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>>379609884

So you haven't actually played FF14, in other words.

There is zero(0) grinding in FF14 unless you insist on leveling up multiple jobs, which is entirely unnecessary. The story levels you up automatically as you go. The story is told through cutscenes, fully voice acted in many cases, not through fetch quests or whatever you mean by "walkabouts". There are some sluggish tutorials and fetch quests in the early parts of the game, but less and less so, and by the time the first expansion came out, all "filler" was eliminated and the story has been extremely focused and engaging ever since.
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>>379610565
>>379610714

Square Enix has definitely pushed Ultros heavily as a second recurring joke character lately. He's been in every numbered FF game since 11, as well as spinoffs like World of Final Fantasy.
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>Want Lenna or Faris to be added
>Know there's zero chance of a game having more than three reps much less FFV when others have just two or even one
>Love Gilgamesh so there's no way I want him skipped over
What a predicament. Maybe in an FF Heroes or some shit like that.
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>>379610914
>hurdurr so you haven't played the game HUH

Oh fuck this shit.
No.
Feel accomplished or whatever, I am beyond entering this discussion with people like you.
I am out.
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>>379608304
I think they hinted at a 1v1 mode in Sqeenix's E3 presentation.
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>>379611430
I mean he's literally completely correct. If you just follow the MSQ, your first Job to max requres extremely little grinding.
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>>379591632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlkQD_-EpVM
Bring Noctis to this alright.
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>>379595827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QgbqVu6Ec

the old arcade trailer
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>>379611612
when does lnc/drg gameplay get fun because i tried ff14 and got tired of it a couple levels after finishing my drg unlock quest
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>>379603559
Gonna stick with Tidus. Terra as well if they keep her combo game in, otherwise maybe I'll finally learn how to do well with Shantotto since she was a lot of fun.
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>>379591632
>ff13 will never be retconned
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>>379612283
>retconning a multiverse.
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>>379605760
BUSTA

SWORD
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>>379611960
lancer/dragoon is straight up one of the shittiest classes to level, i wont deny that. its borderline 1-2 buttons till like lv 34 or something, and it only starts REALLY getting fun around 50 or so. It's a pretty shitty class till you've maxed it and they should probably do something about it, because the first time I tried FFXIV i also chose lancer, and it caused me to get bored and quit really fast.
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Rev up those wishlists. Who do you want added into the game?
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I want Beatrix. I'd buy multiple copies. Even as DLC
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>>379611960

Lancer is known as the most boring class to play until you get your Dragoon abilities and can start jumping. Mostly due to some severe design fuckups on Square Enix's end, such as not giving you any complete combos until near max level, leaving you to spam the same moves over and over.

I've never bothered leveling it for this reason, but if you had just reached Dragoon you probably didn't have far left to go.
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>>379593641
He looks nothing like he does in-game but is spot on for the official art.
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>>379612840
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>>379612781
My biggest issue with levelling LNC was I only had one (i think?) AoE ability that did such little damage it was just as quick to single target DPS individual mobs down in a pack. I can't remember what level you get the DRG quest at, either 30 or 40? Yeah the gameplay was just rotating the same 3-4 abilities pretty much forever with a couple of cooldowns.
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>>379612687
Auron or Wakka
Sabin
Vivi
Caius
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>>379613043

All the AoE abilities also come after level 40.
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>>379613205
Man, it shouldn't take that long to get a decent AoE in any MMO. I think I'll go look at the DRG ability lists and see how close I was to being able to kill more than one thing at a time. Thanks anon.
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>>379612687
I'd actually like some 4HoL or BD reps but it'd probably never happen.
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>>379612687
Rydia!
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>>379612687

tfw never ever
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>>379612840
>>379612947
>>379593946
Not that anon, but let's be real. No one in the west back then knew of any of this until either Origins, they lived in Japan, was in an import shop, saw an article about it somewhere, or could afford Dial-Up Internet.
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>>379613534

level 42 - Doom Spike (Line AoE)
level 46 - Ring of Thorns (circle AoE)
level 50 - Dragonfire Dive (huge AoE jump move)

Oh and there's three other jump moves and some extremely flashy combos too you get around the same time, like Chaos Thrust.

They're taking away Ring of Thorns in the upcoming expansion though. RIP an iconic move.
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>>379610357
The double gravity spell on her transformed form will catch anyone who tries to escape and try to bravery break them severely. Terra is really fun to play as. You definitely picked a good main.
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>>379609907
Don't fuck with trees
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>>379615358
I did.
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>>379612687
Sabin
Auron
Chrono
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>>379603559
The only way to go
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>>379610721
>He hates Type 0

It's got war, school kids, and FF, on top of good-looking characters. No reason to hate it as far as I can see.
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PC PORT WHEN
I JUST WANT TO BEAT PEOPLE UP AS Y'SHTOLA
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>>379616152
You want a medal?
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>>379612687
Edgar and Sabin.
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>>379616280
this guy gets it
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>>379612687
I'm fairly content with Y'shtola at this point. Fran or Freya would be good too though.

>>379610565
This is also acceptable.
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>>379609907
they needed a new way to make him fucking OP
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>>379616559
Rune saber always made my dick hard
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>11 actually gets a rep
Huh, neat.
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>>379603559
I've used him from the first game. Really like Cecil, too.
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>>379616808
for me it's bitter end: intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
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>>379591632
>They updated Y'shtolas outfit.
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>>379591632
>'Shtola that prominent

Is she really that popular? Kinda looking forward to her death desu.
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Where is my man Laguna?
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>>379616810
Shantotto was in the first Dissidia, and Prishe was added in Duodecim.
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>>379616369
It also has Gilgamesh as a major character.
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>>379616810
it always had
shantotto was in the original and they added prishe in duodecim (and made her one of the best characters in the process)
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When do we get Seymour from FFX? Jecht isn't a bad guy. Just a bad father.
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>>379593880
>no tights
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>379616907
at the bottom of duodecim's tier list where he belongs
who the fuck came up with "laser cannon haha" as his gimmick
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>>379617185
She doesn't have tights in the game, that is the in-game costume for FF6
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>>379603559
Always.
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>>379611805
Not Marche, but I'm still pretty happy.
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>>379595962
>>379601638
>tfw no Final Fantasy fighting game with nothing but giant Summons battling each other like Godzilla monsters
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>>379617185
but that's a good thing
tights are great but when they look like grandma's curtains, not so much
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>>379617316
That would be amazing.
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>>379617118
He is one of the main antagonists, though, regardless of whether he's definitely a bad dude
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>>379593880
I really hope they bring back her DLC costume. I loved that one.
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>>379593880
That's a very early 90s anime look. I dig it.
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>>379617018
>>379616938
Well shit. Shows that this is the first time I've actually looked at anything related to Dissidia seriously.

That's nice to know.
>>
What happens when you summon Alexander on the Alexandria stage? Are there now 2 Alexanders or is that stage unique and uses it's Alexander?
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>>379617871
In FFXIV, Alexander summoned himself. So maybe that happens.
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>>379617581
Looks like a fucking whore. It's great.
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>>379618173
Nobody cares about mmoshit.
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>>379603559
Motherfucking Cecil Harvey
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>>379618214
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>>379612687
>FF4
Yang
>FF6
Cyan
>FFT
Agrias, Orlandu, Delita, Ultima

That's about it.
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>>379612687
Estinien Wyrmblood as an alternate costume for Kain, but with Estinien's VA.
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>>379618214
A shame if so because XIV is pretty great. So is 11 if you can get past some of its weirdness.
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>>379608814
Which cutscene was over an hour long? The ending to ARR?
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>>379613043
You picked the wrong class.

Next time pick the one that can Summon Bahamut and have him nuke everything in sight.
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>>379591632
Where is my man with the machine gun?
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>>379618173
I'm asking from a game play perspective. In Dissidia if you summon Alexander he sits outside the map and fires lasers. So I was wondering how ti works on Alexandria.
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>>379619091

Yes.
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>>379619204
Best character theme ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jho-peCAKs
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>>379619091
Ok so the credits don't count you mongoloid
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>>379600116
into the cave, when you come out the other side, wander in the forests for a long time and you'll find the mysterious ninja. Beat her and you'll have a chance to recruit her.

Talk to her, refuse her rematch, tell her you're scared of her, stop her from leaving and don't ask her name.

Then you can stop a fort condor, big blue building with a bird on it, rest restock and play a mini game. Then follow the coast to the right to get to Junon.
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>>379591632
No Celes no buy
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>>379618214

FF14 is literally keeping this otherwise irrelevant franchise alive, retard. It's the only FF game truly worth playing in the past 15 or so years.
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>Have a huge opportunity to put in Rivenroad and make Nael a playable character given that his moveset pretty much writes itself
>They go with boring Praetorium for a stage
fug
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>>379619612
Wrong. MMO is its smallest portion of revenue. Mobile being the biggest, and HD remakes being the second.
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>>379600491
The cave with the power.

the one directly in front of you after that scene you mong.
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>>379619643

There's multiple obvious reasons why they chose what they did.

In the PSP games it would have been Rivenroad though.
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>>379619091
>>379608814
The pre-Heavensward cutscene was super long. I forget if it was over an hour, but it was long as shit. It was a wild ride though.

I'm glad they cut down on the mid-dungeon cutscenes. They went too far with the final 2.0 dungeons, and I really feel they should somehow address it now, since a bunch of new players have to go through that bullshit and get left behind when they choose to watch cutscenes. Who the fuck thought it wasn't a problem to put ten minute cutscenes in the middle of a dungeon?
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>>379619767
Yeah yeah casuals and recognition
Fuck this mortal existence
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>>379591632
I think it's been hinted this game'll have a Donut Creator.

Xenoverse really kicked off a new trend, didn't it?
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>>379619605
>telling him how to recruit her rather than letting him figure it out
disgusting
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>>379619608
Fucking this. If they don't add her with this as her alt costume, my dick will riot. I hope you're reading this Square-Enix. You don't want to mess with this anon's cock.
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>>379619732

Good job retard, you managed to look at an infographic for idiots and completely fail to understand the context or relevance to the current discussion.
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>>379619608
>>379619932
celes cucks please leave
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>>379619891
Has it? I haven't seen anything hinting at it at all.
If anything WoL is enough of a donut steel as it is.
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>>379619523
That cutscene is an hour and a half long, the credits are only 27 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JUkUPLkzI
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>>379619858

No, that is not one of the reasons.
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>>379606612
Early on Nomura himself stated no, so fat chance, kiddo.
Random sauce on that (you can fine multiple one if you don't trust the website): https://www.khinsider.com/news/Nomura-Voice-recording-for-Kingdom-Hearts-underway-on-Sora-in-Dissidia-Final-Fantasy-7215
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>>379618297
I loved Cecil's Dark Knight form. That arranged track of Battle 1 they did for Duodecim was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vid2rhVgbJE
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>>379596473

it means that we're hopefully gonna get a better rep
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>>379591632
>tfw recently replayed it on PPSSPP and its better than I remember

Game was so fucking good even though I never played with other people back with the PSP.
Good to know its coming for PS4 and probably with online multiplayer.
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>>379620374
not him but I'd rather not talk about dissidia music, every time it just reminds me of how they fucking destroyed The Extreme in the new one
I still don't know how they did it, it's like they made it bad on purpose as a joke
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>>379620581
Who would you nominate instead? Not that I'm a fan of Y'shtola, but outside Warrior of Light™ there's not another more iconic character of the game.
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>>379620624
>Game was so fucking good even though I never played with other people back with the PSP.
Same. None of my friends were into the game, FF, or the PSP but it was fun alone, so I'm sure it's even more fun with friends.
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>>379620743
>I'm sure it's even more fun with friends
it is but sadly it really makes you realize how fucked the balance was in that game
I mean the bad characters are still playable (for the most part anyway) but you instantly realize how worthless some of them truly are when you're playing against a human being
webm unrelated
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>>379620718

I'd say Raubahn could work, we've seen him fight enough, we've even fought him ourselves, and he's more story relevant than any non-scion.
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>>379591632

Give me ONE GOOD REASON this isn't on Switch.

Right
Fucking
Now
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>>379612687
FF6: Ultros
FF9: Lani
FF12: Ba'Gamnan
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>>379621050
Play with custom rules and the games even better, me and my friends would amp up the crit, assist, and ex rate, so the matches were really fast, really high risk. Some of the best days of my life wasted.
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>>379601735
>ace
Type-0
>yshtola
FFXIV
>shantoto
FFXI. She was in the first Dissidia.
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>>379621629
because the arcade machines they use for the game are pretty much just modded PS4s which means they probably have a deal with sony
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>>379620718
The only person that really comes to mond is alphinaud
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>>379621629
>Shit hardware
>Shit button mapping
>Shit Online

Take your pick, know full and well no matter which one gets done right, the other two will go horribly wrong.
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>>379622262

What's wrong with Nintendo's online?
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>>379614975
Premium. Alternate. Costumes.
Same move sets, different character models, different voices, different win/taunt animations.
This shit is what is winning me over on netherrealm despite not even liking the core game play of their games. It's that kind of completely cosmetic dlc id gladly pay for.

Seifer for Squall
Zack for Cloud
Edea for Ultimecia
Galuf for Bartz
Celes for Terra
Edge for Shadow (or vice versa depending on who makes it in proper)
Snow for Sabin (same as above)
Ceodore for Cecil
Etc
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>>379600779

Zidane is supposed to be slighly taller than Cloud
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>>379622586
>Ceodore
Keep that cuck outside this game forever. How did Cecil and Rosa have this loser kid.
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>>379622420
Bad tickrates, you have to purchase a USB adapter for ethernet so most people won't bother, paid but lacks the quality or features to justify that cost, etc
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>>379605353
Because it's supposed to be an E3 surprise
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>>379622790
Sometimes two shitty/ugly parents have a great/beautiful kid. Sometimes two great parents have a shitty kid
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>>379608865
Was really hoping they'd address this in the new expansion by either reducing the amount of solo content you need to do to catch up to current content or by giving an option to skip to the current story with a recap.

They did neither; instead they applied a bandaid fix to skip the content if you pay the price of a full retail game. Really disappointing.
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>>379605760

She is limit breaking you moron. Cloud gets Ultima so does Squall. Zidane and Terra go trance and so on.
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>>379620624
>Game was so fucking good even though I never played with other people back with the PSP.
Same here no matter how hard i tried to connect my PSP to psn it wouldn't fucking work for some reason
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>>379612687

Freya
Prompto
Yuffie
Snow
Hope
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>>379623726
kys furfaggot. listing those other characters didn't fool me.
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>>379599287
What did they do to my smug rat?
It looks like they stuck all her HP moves in her BP slots. Does she at least keep bio and bind?
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Aranea waifu when
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