This is unironically GOTY

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>>379591602
wrong pic again, sorry

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Today it's not my day it seems... This was the pic I wanted!

>>379591160
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT A GOOD GAME BECAUSE IT'S FROM JAPAN I FUCKING HATE ANIME THE ONLY GAME I PLAYED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS IS THE WITCHER 3 AND I FUCKING HATE YOU WEEABOOS YOU DON'T BELONG TO 4CHIN WEST>EAST ALL DAY FUCCK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>379591986

Nier Automata has a far better vidya story than either Witcher 3 or The Last of Us or whatever it is you reddit normies like. Not even a weeb, just know when to recognize a classic.

>>379591160
I unironically think this is a bad game

>>379592061

No one gives a shit

>>379592101
>unironically thinks it's GOTY
No one gives a shit

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>>379591160

>>379592193

Got you to reply faggot

unironically worst platinum game to date alongside korra

BOTW will win by default, and even if it didn't Automata doesn't deserve it.

I haven't even played BOTW by the way.

>>379591160
Yes it is. Now move on.

But Ape Escape 4 isn't even out yet.
>>379592674
It's a Zelda game, of course it will win GOTY

>>379591160
ahhahaha

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Zelda will win either way because it has a massive normie support.
Automata is probably the single best game experience i had in last 5 years though.

>>379593190
Play more video games then.

>>379593271
Oh shit we have a vidya expert here.

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I haven't bought a game above $50 in several years. Still waiting for the price to go down. I've seen little minute long videos and I can't wait for the next sales to come around. I 100% Nier,fishing, weapons, ending, everything.

Can't wait for the improved combat, and eye-candy. Someone also told me the music is ever better somehow.

Recently upgraded my PC, how will it run? How's the port?

>>379593357
Not joking, it's a very unpolished game with abysmal level design, unsatisfying combat and it lacks the most important thing in a hack and slash game: Good bossfights.
The music is good, but it just doesn't fit in the game. It could literally be put into any Jrpg game and it wouldn't feel out of place.
The environments are bland and nothing will wow you. Well maybe the station the first time but there is nothing to do there.
The setting is nothing original but it's not bad, can't say the same about the story (it's bad) which was the biggest disappointment for me. On top of that, it's a 3 day game tops. Not to mention some textures and whole areas look like early ps3/360 era. I am convinced that people who praise this game have never played a hack and slash game before and this is their only comparison.

Adjusting the camera so you can zoom in and using the ''self destruct'' was probably the highlight of the game.

>>379591160
I loved Automata but Breath of the Wild is better in almost every single way

>>379592040
Too bad most of that story is in a fucking stage play
The overarching story in Witcher 3 may have sucked, but it had better story telling

>>379593717
go back to steam reviews faggot
maybe people will care

>>379593717
And jesus christ what about adding more than 2 enemies and not variations of the same LITERAL tin-can robots? Fucking hell.
Despite all of that, it's a solid game. a 7/10 tops. And not game of the year material. I am sorry but it's Zelda. YOu can play it or keep shitpost about the best game you Never played.

>>379593794
>Too bad most of that story is in a fucking stage play
>most of the story
>Literally just fleshing out of a detail we already found out from the game
I mean don't get me wrong, the Stage Play is fantastic, and definitely adds depth to the game, but the game is beautifully self-contained, and all the Stage Play does, is give you more detail on The cycle of 9s murders before gamestart

>>379593794
''almost'' every single way?

>>379593827
i am sorry i hurt your feelings

>>379593717
>advertise is as a hack and slash where you play as a gynoid with a nice ass
>spend most of the game playing geometry wars as a shota
>barely play as the A2 with her improved move set over 2B
The biggest fucking problem for me. 9S just isn't a fun character to play as

>>379593932
Voice acting is undeniably better in Automata and BotW barely has a story

>Normal difficulty Is too easy
>Can't get past the tutorial mission on Hard

>>379594007
9S has all melee abilities of 2B aside from second weapon slot.
You probably don't even know he has heavy attacks.

>>379591160
I love this game, and it's probably going to end up as my GOTY, but I'm not that happy about it.
It's not THAT good. The only reason why it's a GOTY contender because we're used to shitty games released completely broken with bland story, bland OST, shitty samey world, and with a generally uninspired setting.
So when a game comes that's only broken for some people on release, uses fairly boring colors, has a story that purely focuses on invoking feelings in the player, has a great OST and animations, and a well designed but ultimately broken combat system everyone loses their fucking minds.
In a perfect world NieR: Automata would be 8 out of 10, but in this world the video game industry is in a horrible state, so it feels a lot better.

>pirate the game
> reach the credits final boss in ending E
>what the fuck is this shit
>literally hours of trying
>finish it through sheer luck
>later go onto forums and realize you are supposed to get help from other players

shame on me for pirating it, but what about people who like playing offline or can't use internet?

>>379594071
My only complaint about the game.

>>379593929
Yeah, that's why I think the story telling isn't very good in Nier, even if the story is great

>>379594071
>Hard makes enemies more aggressive and damaging
Fuck yeah, that's a great way to do higher difficul-
>Also makes them into massive damage sponges
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

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>>379593410
That all you got KID

>>379594083
Doesn't change the fact that he isn't FUN

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This is my GOTY.

>>379594083
Not him, but I sure fucking didn't. Enlighten me, oh master, so I can actually fucking enjoy playing him.

Heh. Stupid secondary. You just don't get it. This is YOKO. FUCKING. TARO. It doesn't "get" good, thats the point buddy, YOKO TARO. A mind as feeble as yours could never truly appreciate the genius of YOKO FUCKING TARO. The tedious combat represents the tedium in our lives, and being constantly interrupted to go play the hacking minigame symbolizes our desire to escape from the tedium, but only into another form of it. There is no escape, just like there is no escape from BASED YOKO TARO bringing us on his LOONY MAD MAN WILD RIDE yet again! You secondaries will just never get it!

>>379594125
Or if the servers go down. I see the message they were trying to convey but it's a shitty way of doing it

>>379594212
Fun is subjective. He's the only character with multiple actual builds possible for him and way larger amount of tools for every situation.

>>379594212
Someone hasn't tried using a spear with him.

>>379594304
it wouldn't be very hard to put some kind of fake messages to mimic the online network and have the help of fake players

it would literally convey the same meaning without being so complicated

>>379594250
neutral dodge into light string

>>379594271
I know this is of course ironic, but what is this whole "Secondary" thing automatafags always love spouting when faced with actual criticism?

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>>379594359
>>379594358
>unironically enjoying playing as the whiny shota
>muh builds
>muh hacking

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>>379594209

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>>379591841

Damn, I'm getting old. Sorry again

>>379594449
I'll have to try that, thanks.

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I think it might have edged out BOTW for me too, such a fucking great experience.

>>379594491
get back to your autism thread

>>379592040

It has fat asses. Admit you fapped played it just for that

I refuse to believe there are people out there who played Automata without playing NieR, just imagine:

>There are people out there didn't recognize Emil in the shopping mall and instead thought "who is this skeleton boy?"

>There are people out there who went through Emils entire sidequest and had no clue what he was saying during the bossfight

>There are people out there who visited Kaine's shack without knowing who she was, without recognizing the music or significance of the Lunar Tear

>There are people out there who met Devola and Popola, played through their atonement and read the VN without an understanding of why their model is discriminated against

YOKO. FUCKING. TARO. CAN. DO. NO. WRONG. GOTY. GOTY. GOTY!!!

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>>379591841

this so far

so much content

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>>379594602
I'm already in it

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>>379594271
Holy frick, that sounds legen fricking excuse me if you're lactose intolerant DARY! This sounds like the last of us of the japanese videogames, might have to check this baby out!

>>379594654
>There are people out there who met Devola and Popola, played through their atonement and read the VN without an understanding of why their model is discriminated against

But the game literally tells you the whole story.

>>379594616
I can't fap to the game's characters after playing it

>>379591160
Top 3 for me

1.Nier A
2. BotW
3. Prey

Honorable Mention: Puyo Puyo Tetris

>>379594654
>There are people out there who met Devola and Popola, played through their atonement and read the VN without an understanding of why their model is discriminated against
The rest is pretty valid, but that was plenty well explained in the game, if you're not a fucking retard.

>>379594654
The problem with NieR was that it was a shitty game

>>379594535
lol

>>379594083
>9S has all melee abilities of 2B
>no true charge attacks
>no heavy evade attacks
>no transition attacks
>slower in general
No.

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>>379591160
>Nier a Tomato
>GOTY
kek
The only people who praise this piece of trash are ultra weebfags. I got bored within 2 hours and dropped the game altogether after having played 6. The gameplay is shallow as fuck and the story is literally tumblr-tier.
Read a book faggot.

>>379594361
That's already in the game.

And if you're playing offline and you retry enough times it gets easier.

>>379594936

lol brainlets

>>379594358
>He's the only character with multiple actual builds
>multiple builds
>gets 1 or 2 hacking chips the others don't
What did I just read.

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>>379594789

>Prey even being in your top 3 - of all the great games released thus far

>>379594789
kek

Reminder.
>nier atomato is literally weeb undertale complete with wacky skeleton side character
>the gameplay and graphics are mediocre but the music is pretty good!
>constantly interrupted to go play a light shmup
>fanart bait

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>>379594789
>Western game

>>379595063
I'm a sucker for System Shock 2, and Prey was the closest thing to it in a very long time.

I actually really enjoyed it. I can see why others don't though.

>>379595093
>constantly interrupted to go play a light shmup

come on now, we know you didn't make it to route B.

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>>379594789

>Prey

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>>379595093

You're an idiot.

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>>379593717
You seemed to have gone into this game with the misconception that you would be playing a hack and slash game just because it was made by Platinum. Treating it as anything more than a Nier sequel that would not be as ridiculously simplistic as Drakengard/Nier by virtue of Cavia not making it means you were always going to be disappointed.

Hearing Yoko Taro name is a turn off for me, so no.

>>379595202
>System Shock 2

They're nothing alike, and you're a fucking retard.

>>379594654
None of those are required to understand the story of Automata

>>379595267
>IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BAD

>>379594654
>tfw always wanted to try the original

I just never got a chance. Just started Automata and fucking love it though despite.

What's the best way a fag like me can experience the original without having the means to play it?

>>379595056
He also has enemy hijack mechanic and hacking doesn't stop the cooldown timer of pod programs enabling to make him into a full pod program caster on top of a simple hacker build.
None of those are possible for girls who only have melee going on for them which gets old after 10 hours already.

>>379595398

>if its not a hack n slash its bad

what

that isn't Hollow Knights though?

>>379595267
You're probably right. I was expecting something entirely different. Maybe it's just not for me

>>379595415
Go on ebay and buy a used copy.

>>379595398
>>379595443
not him

>>379594125
Youtube

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>>379594936
Heh, you just don't get it, you ignorant plebe. Someone on here was nice enough to explain it to you how this piece of art works. >>379594271

>>379595202
See, I like System Shock as well, but Prey was a disappointment to me because I came in with that mentality. I reckon I would've enjoyed it more if I treated it as a standalone title.

>>379595267
>You seemed to have gone into this game with the misconception that you would be playing a hack and slash game just because it was made by Platinum. Treating it as anything more than a Nier sequel that would not be as ridiculously simplistic
Was there ever greater proof RPGfags are cancer that should be completely ignored?

>>379595656
I went into Prey blind, maybe that's why I enjoyed it alot

>>379595784

Blind and brainless.

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>>379591160
>>379591602
>>379591841
fake news

>>379595759
>buy """RPG""" made by Platinum
>surprised when it's not Devil May Cry
>go on /v/ and call others cancer
???

>>379595427
>He also has enemy hijack mechanic
Was pointless outside farming the bunny, and they patched that.

>hacking doesn't stop the cooldown timer of pod programs
Which means he isn't getting to cast more, he's burning up time in a different way.

>to make him into a full pod program caster
You can already play the girls as 'full casters' because most encounters can be stomped with one pod program or spamming Pod B shots.

>who only have melee going on for them
Which is way stronger than hacking and their Pod use isn't any weaker.

>>379594789
>Prey
Prey is a fucking copypaste 2007 game with slightly better graphics, the fact that its even a GOTY runner up just shows your taste.
The only legit GOTY candidates right now are BOTW, Nier Automata, Persona 5, Hollow Knight and Yakuza 0.

>>379595929
>Platinum admits they were afraid to make the core gameplay too complicated for RPGfags
>core gameplay as a result suffers
>this isn't a problem

>>379596121
>Persona 5
Only if you're a weeb

>>379595971
>Was pointless
Vast majority of weapons and movesets in the game is pointless by definition when you can blow through it with light sword on 2B by just mashing light attack, what matters is fun and going through the forest kingdom with your own robot squad or flying around as a drill snake is very fun.
>Which means he isn't getting to cast more
Oh no, he casts way more relative to enemy time.
>You can already play the girls as 'full casters'
No, you can't as they will be forced to run around to wait for pod cooldowns while he can just shit a new triple wave after a single hack.
>Which is way stronger than hacking
PFFFFFFT HAHAHAHA
400% taunt hack is way stronger and safer than any melee option.
On top of that 9S' melee is extremely strong as well, especially on spears and large swords that are actually useful unlike on 2B and A2.

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>>379596121
>considers nier a goty contender
>looks down on other people taste
prey is one of the better games this year, get over it

>>379591160
loved this game, the fee fees were so good
when adam and eve got name dropped i was like whooaa. is there any other game more /lit/ than this one?

>>379591160
GOTY needs good gameplay first

>>379596121
>P5
>Nier a Tomato
Weebfags are this delusional.

>>379591160
How can this linear fanservice visual novella compete with the likes of D:OS2?

>>379591160
Game sucked. Shit combat and Jr high level existentialism. Story being split up was a fucking chore.

>>379596363
I know right i loved the cutscene where the robot talks about nietzsche and shit lol

>>379596121
I havn't played Yakuza 0 and Hollow Knight yet

But I hated Persona 5's pace and can't consider it rightfully in that list. Sorry Anon.

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GOTY means it needs to have fun gameplay and the only games who delivered on that aspect are BOTW and Yakuza 0. I would've picked Yakuza 0 but that game just has waay to many cutscenes so BOTW is my GOTY.

>>379591160
theres no replay value really after a b c and d endings, map is tiny too

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>>379596136
All of Yoko's previous games have abysmally awful combat. This is less about the fact that Platinum toned the potential down and more about the fact that based on past experiences you shouldn't have gone in expecting anything more than basic combat that isn't mind-numbingly repetitive. If you don't have any past experiences in Drakengard or Nier then it's your own fault for walking in full of ignorance.

>>379596664
>there's no replay value after you've beat the game 4 times

>>379596664
replay value is irrelevant to goty status

>>379596272
>400% taunt hack is way stronger and safer than any melee option.
But it isn't fun. If I wanted to play Geometry Wars I would have picked that up instead if a game made by Platinum

>>379596920
Well, more like 3. Since you just chapter select after C, to the D choice (or if you're not a pleb, you do it right before the 10/10 sequence leading up to the final fight)

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>>379596845
Why does he still get to make games if the gameplay from the previous games was considered awful? Will weebs just buy anything if it has waifus in it?

>>379591160
>it's shit b-but not as shit as the devs last games, so 10/10 GOTY
This is the most retarded logic in existence.

I liked the game but eveything about the main characters is too cheesy and anime. It just feels immature.

For me the main story is only okay, Pascals story is pretty good.

Also the name dropping of philosophers just to seem deep was kinda lame.

>>379596272
>Vast majority of weapons
Blame them being ability sticks.

>and movesets
Given they do things small swords can't, are more than one attack and don't fuck over your mobility, no.

>what matters is fun
And playing as gimmicky gimped robits isn't.

>your own robot squad
Which the others can do.

>Oh no, he casts way more relative to enemy time.
Which is a waste when he could be nuking them with Pod B.

>you can't as they will be forced to run around to wait for pod cooldowns
After the fight is already over.

>while he can just shit a new triple wave after a single hack.
Why are you implying more than one wave is necessary.

>400% taunt hack is way stronger and safer than any melee option.
Hacking doesn't benefit from Last Stand, weapon properties, Charge chips, Melee/Ranged attack chips, or Berserk. There's a reason people do the arena as A2.

>On top of that 9S' melee is extremely strong as well
It's crap compared to the girls.

>especially on spears and large swords that are actually useful unlike on 2B and A2.
The girls are quicker with them and get charge attacks, 9S doesn't.

>>379597087
Because they've got good stories, and he has fans, because of that. I'm not a big fan of him personally, but he's an auteur. A lot of people like that (see:Kojima, Suda, Swery, etc)

>>379597046
>But it isn't fun
Well it's a good thing that nobody forces you to use that particular ability then?

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>>379597087
At least one of the Square Enix executives are somehow really big fans of his games. As long as Squeenix can keep making money off easy titles he's free to make whatever he wants, although considering how well Nier A sold he probably given them even more confidence in his games.

>>379597306
Except for all those times you have to hack to progress the story

>>379596845
>All of Yoko's previous games have abysmally awful combat.
Which is why he's a hack.

>This is less about the fact that Platinum toned the potential down
Platinum did the lion's share of the work and Taro admits they are the only reason his shit scenario didn't turn into a dumpster fire. Bad gameplay is bad gameplay.

>>379597275
In addition, hacking can't crit nor benefit from damage up items. It doesn't compare to optimized normal attacks.

>>379597465
He meant Platinum toned it down from what Platinum originally wanted to do. Were you even paying attention?

>>379594125

That group is so small that they're not worth considering anymore, it's like complaining about how excluding it is that the game doesn't work on an Atari 2600.

Servers eventually being removed is a bigger issue though.

>>379597285
>Because they've got good stories
They're garbage stories and games are about gameplay.

>Kojima
Kojima makes games with good gameplay, Taro doesn't.

>>379597558
> Crit
I hate that Crit is the best build for damage, since all the Critical+ weapons are so Damm ugly.

>>379597635
>makes
Made

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>>379597285
>Because they've got good stories
>Caring about stories in a videogame
Literally the same as normies buying le epic cinematic games. Kojima's games tend to have great gameplay, same with Suda's games. So it's literally just weebs obsessing over waifus.

>>379597563
Harming core gameplay for the sake of RPGfags, which is why they're cancer.

>>379597285
Why does japan have so many of these types when the only ones from america i can think of is todd howard and maybe gabe newell?

>>379597742
Because Japanese culture is superior

>>379594271
Saved

>>379597742
Because AAA games in America, are ruthlessly profit driven a lot of the time, and designed by committee to be ad profitable as possible, instead of a passion project helmed by one lone weirdo.

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>>379597465
>Which is why he's a hack.
Until Automata came out people were under no delusions about the quality of his games. It may seem like a cop-out to say you're playing them for the experience, but you certainly aren't playing them because they play well.

>>379597849
oh ok i understand now

>>379597275
>Given they do things small swords can't
Small swords can do everything, she can even throw them for midrange attacks.
9S is the only one who has considerable range differences on his weapons as his spear throw has virtually no fade range.
>And playing as gimmicky gimped robits isn't.
Having more options is always funnier than having none.
>Which is a waste
Pod's normal attack won't do even a third of the damage hack and a new triple Wave will do.
>Why are you implying more than one wave is necessary.
Because i'm talking about arena and highlevel stuff where the difference in power and safety between 9S and girls becomes apparent.
>Hacking doesn't benefit from Last Stand, weapon properties, Charge chips, Melee/Ranged attack chips
Indeed. It, however, benefits from Stun, Combust, Taunt chips and works in synergy with Auto-Heal chips which triggers after 6 seconds in hacking space as well. And all of that on top of resetting Pod cooldown. You literally can't break the game more, not even with A2.
>The girls are quicker with them
9S heavy sword moveset is actually faster on top of having twice as much range which is what makes it actually useful.
And spear throw is the single most batshit ability for a crit build.

>>379597946
So in other words, his fans are weebs distracted by dumb gimmicks.

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>tfw Drakengard 1 is your favorite Taro game and you think Automata is 7/10 at best and lacks alot compared to the first Nier

The ass made the sells, it was a good call.

>>379597275
>get charge attacks
he gets spear throw and boomerang large sword throw, both are miles ahead in terms of usability than charge attacks of girls

>>379598091
>Gimmicks
It's called a fucking imagination.
Which western developers usually don't seem to have

>>379597742
It used to be a bigger thing back when studios were much smaller. Everyone knows Romero and Carmack, there's also Molyneux and going further back you've got Sierra champion Roberta Williams and also Richard Garriott. Really though, what happened was that games became more faceless; developed by a company with a name rather than people who work at the company. A lot also simply don't have the desire to go and put their name out there.

>>379598070
>muh DPS
Still not fun

Using berserk mode with heal chips against a swarm of high level enemies with a great risk/reward ratio is a lot more fun that hiding in 9S' safe space and healing

>>379598334
>what happened was that games became more faceless; developed by a company with a name rather than people who work at the company
Ubisoft is like a perfect example of this

>>379591160
It was much better than I expected but combat is too repetitive and the game is way too easy

Locking new playthrough behind a repeated playthrough is one of the worst decisions I have ever seen made

>>379591160
ummm no sweetie, that would be Prey

>playing a game
>suddenly it pauses
>camera pans into a cut scene
>i see a robot reading a book
>"wow nietzsche was pretty deep...."
>".... or pretty insane LOL"
>camera pans back to me
>cutscene ends

whoa...so this... is the power...of...
BASED YOKO TARO

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>>379597946
Jesus Christ, are Tarofags mentally challenged?

>>379595202
That's what I thought too. I came expecting a game released in 2017, but ended up with something highly reminiscent of SS2 but without the shit combat.

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>>379598091
>dumb gimmicks
Gimmicks are what Nintendo use. Yoko made bad games that were so bizarre and niche that people couldn't help but keep playing regardless of how awful it is to actually play Drakengard.

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>>379598162
There's just something special about Nier. It really hit a lot of the right notes. From the moment I first saw the village (and got over the PS2 graphics) it grabbed hold of me and wouldn't let go. It's like a Todd Rundgren album.

isn't it funny that the people who hate on prey always list chitchat simulator 5 as one of the best games ever?

What is Taros obsession with multiple endings
Why is the game/games structure the way it is. Why does he force players to play mediocre bullshit for 20+ hours before the interesting stuff begins? Why does the game add miniscule small details in full whole playtroughs when it could have instead had those in the first playtrough to begin with?
What does the multiple ending thing even add?

only western games are allowed to win the goty

>>379598070
>Small swords can do everything
>shit hitstun
>no charge attacks
>fists are comparable save for the lack of a crit weapon
No.

>she can even throw them for midrange attacks.
Which lacks the crowd control of large swords and the range of spears.

>as his spear throw has virtually no fade range.
Which is pretty much his only melee advantage.

>Having more options is always funnier than having none.
Having fewer, better, more interesting options > having shitloads of worthless ones.

>Pod's normal attack won't do even a third of the damage hack
>what is Pod B
>what is Last Stand
>what is Ranged Attack Up
>what are Range damage up items

>a new triple Wave will do.
Someone hasn't maxed Pod B.

>Because i'm talking about arena
Which is one gauntlet. 99% of the fights in the game are a single wave/enemy that dies to one Pod Program, and being high level doesn't change this.

>where the difference in power and safety between 9S and girls becomes apparent.
Which is why everyone does it as A2, who's 2B with an alternate taunt and super state.

>however, benefits from Stun
Which doesn't matter when they're exploding from a poke from melee/ranged attacks.

>Combust
Doesn't come remotely close to closing the gap.

>Taunt
Affects everything equally, a non factor.

>works in synergy with Auto-Heal chips
Damage in Automata tends to be binary, you either die in one hit or are literally immortal thanks to Auto Heal+anything, items, and Offensive/Deadly Heal. Another non factor.

>And all of that on top of resetting Pod cooldown
He isn't resetting them, he's waiting them out in a different manner.

>You literally can't break the game more, not even with A2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtBie0GiMwY

>which is what makes it actually useful.
>not the strong transition attacks
>not the crowd control on the toss
>not the charge

>spear throw is the single most batshit ability
Try Berserk and charge attacks.

>>379598195
Too bad the rest of his melee moveset sucks for actually meleeing things and his lack of charge and transition attacks gimps his damage output.

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>>379599354
Mix of weebs shitposting because muh western game and people upset about prey 2 who don't want to give it a chance.

>>379599613
i think so too.

this "prey" is better than prey. i got bored of prey within 4 hours but i've seen "prey" through to the end. it's an unrelated game but it's also a better game.

>>379598237
>It's called a fucking imagination.
You know what would be really imaginative? Great, interesting gameplay.

>Which western developers usually don't seem to have
>implying anyone gives a shit were games come from so long as they're good
>which Yoko 'It's Bad on Purpose' Taro's aren't

>>379599027
>Gimmicks are what Nintendo use.
Nintendo's are gameplay focused though, and often good. From what's being described he's both a shit designer and writer (who cares) that adds a lot of edgy shit (but again, writing doesn't matter).

>>379599413
>What is Taros obsession with multiple endings
It's literally to stretch the budget: http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/21/nier-automata-director-talks-design-philosophies-storytelling-poop-butts/

"The real reason behind having multiple endings is, when the entire game playthrough is too short, a lot of people would be disappointed. So, the multiple endings are meant to supplement that. Given that we’re restricted in terms of our funding and budget, it’s kind of a way to save costs by using the same stages and characters, but having a slightly repetitive nature by having you play through similar areas several times, but experience several kinds of endings through that method."

>>379599442
>Which lacks the crowd control of large swords and the range of spears.
2B's large swords are worthless for crowd control as they have no range.
2B's spears are inferior small swords and the range difference between them is laughable.
Small swords are better in virtually any situation.
>Which is pretty much his only melee advantage.
Oh no. His bracer charge attack has immense burst DPS. His heavy bracer string has immense hitstun and can be dodge cancelled on a whim into barrage of heavy attacks. His small sword heavy combo string is a multihit perfect for abusing crit weapons. His large swords are better overall. That's without mentioning advanced mechanics like SD cancels.
>Having fewer, better, more interesting options > having shitloads of worthless ones.
Having an access to entirely different mechanics > having access to none.
>what is
Nothing that matches a single hack with a good chipset.
>Which is one gauntlet.
Which is everything that matters as long as we're talking about actual builds and viability.
>Which is why everyone does it as A2
Waifufags are going with a waifu character, surprising.
>Affects everything equally
And is especially good when it can be used from a safe range, as with hacking.
>Damage in Automata tends to be binary
If you're on shit build, sure.
>He isn't resetting them
He is literally resetting them compared to enemy time.
>strong transition attacks
Garbage.
>on the toss
He has toss as well.
>charge
Slow as shit garbage inferior to any 9S charge attacks as far as usability goes.
>Try Berserk and charge attacks.
Why should i try something that requires activation of additional mode when i can simply throw a spear and everything will die no matter the distance?

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>>379599950
Yeah, same. I tried out the first Prey a few months back and I dropped it because it was too boring, wasn't too big on the reboot either but at least I finished that one.

>>379599974
>"The real reason behind having multiple endings is, when the entire game playthrough is too short, a lot of people would be disappointed. So, the multiple endings are meant to supplement that. Given that we’re restricted in terms of our funding and budget, it’s kind of a way to save costs by using the same stages and characters, but having a slightly repetitive nature by having you play through similar areas several times, but experience several kinds of endings through that method."
So hes literally just a cheap hack
wew

>>379599590
the fuck it has to do with what i said, retard

>>379600704
He only did it right in Drakengard and Niers Ending B, in all the others its basically just filler

And Automata didnt need multiple routes at all since its a completely linear story

>>379592040
I love Nier:A too and it's my GOTY so far, especially the soundtrack, but you need to stop saying retarded shit anon

>>379600704
Do you even have any idea how much it costs to make video games? No, of course you don't. Stick to flipping burgers.

>>379601005
>actually defending repetitive garbage design because of "muh budget"
Launch off excuses all you want anon, that wont change what the game actually is.

>>379600348
>2B's large swords are worthless for crowd control
Heavy evade attack is one of the best crowd control moves in the game, have you played Automata?

>2B's spears are inferior small swords
That actually stun things and have a charge attack.

>the range difference between them
The range difference on the evade heavy attacks is enormous.

>Small swords are better in virtually any situation.
>fighting mobs with a small sword
>have to weave in and out
>fight with a spear
>mash buttons until it dies.

>His bracer charge attack has immense burst DPS
That doesn't come close to transition or charge attacks.

>His heavy bracer string has immense hitstun
Which the girls do better with spears.

>can be dodge cancelled
Like literally all non-charge attacks.

>His small sword heavy combo string is a multihit
That again doesn't compare to transition attacks.

>His large swords are better overall.
>worse strings
>no charge attack
No.

>Having an access to entirely different mechanics
That are worthless at the cost of core mechanics.

>Nothing that matches
You're right, Pod B grossly surpasses it.

>Which is everything that matters as long as we're talking about actual builds and viability.
In that case 9S sucks ass since A2 with Berserk > Last Stand builds utilizing normal attacks >>>>>>>>>>>>hacking.

>Waifufags are going with a waifu character
As do combat guys, because she's flatout better.

>And is especially good when it can be used from a safe range
Like Pod B. Which has shitloads of other factors that jack up its damage unlike hacking.

>If you're on shit build
You're either on Very Hard/Hard getting oneshot or you're not. There's pretty well no middle ground. Builds let you jump from being oneshot on Hard/when underleveled to not being, they don't change the nature of the system.

>He is literally resetting them
He's waiting them out. Reset implies eliminating the cooldown entirely regardless of how long it was.

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JUST RELEASE NIER DIGITALLY ALREADY, I WANT TO PLAY IT BEFORE GETTING AUTOMATA.

>>379591160
I bought it because of the demo, i thought when i played the demo it was great, the actual product not so much, the young boy annoyed me too much i ended up dropping this halfway

>>379592040
>Nier Automata has a far better vidya story than either Witcher 3 or The Last of Us or whatever it is you reddit normies like
Witcher 3 is shit but it sells more than 20 millions copy, because it's a good shit, unlike this "shit"

>>379600348
>Garbage.
>he doesn't know the small sword/small sword transition attack is the most ridiculously easy to spam melee DPS move in the game

>He has toss as well.
So large sword melee range isn't its biggest strength, is it?

>Slow as shit garbage
>strongest melee attack in the game
>by a lot
>garbage

>inferior to any 9S charge attacks as far as usability goes.
>spear charge attack hits to stagger things first
>large swords can be charged at a safe distance like a UT

>Why should i try something that requires activation of additional mode
Because it's far stronger (as buff states tend to be).

>>379601306
If there's no announcement at E3 I don't think that will ever happen anon...

>>379600781
You seemed to be implying his melee isn't shit (when it is).

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>>379601712
Well, fuck. On my backlog it goes forever until I find a PS3 copy.

>>379601306
Like eight thousand fucking years pass between Nier and Automata. Read a plot synopsis and you're fine.

>>379601916
The game is expensive because of limited print, it did actually get re-printed in Europe a few months back

>>379601274
>Heavy evade attack is one of the best crowd control moves in the game
It doesn't justify equipping a whole weapon unlike on 9S.
>That actually stun things
While you're stunning something with a spear, small sword will already deal with it permanently. Spear moveset is just overall worthless and slow.
>That doesn't come close to transition or charge attacks.
>That again doesn't compare to transition attacks.
Learn SD cancels.
9S charge attacks are way superior to on-hold charges as they are actually usable in a heat of battle.
>That are worthless at the cost of core mechanics.
He loses nothing and only gains additional abilities.
>Pod B grossly surpasses it.
No normal Pod attack comes close to a hacking with a good chipset.
> A2 with Berserk
Doesn't incorporate Pod program spamming nearly as well, doesn't have nearly as much range and safety, doesn't allow her to literally disable everything in a large aoe with each hit, not to mention the lack of auto-heal shenanigans.
In other words, A2 sucks ass.
>Reset implies eliminating the cooldown entirely
Which is exactly what happens for enemies.
>So large sword melee range isn't its biggest strength
Oh no, it is, because he actually has more than one useful move with it without losing the toss.
>strongest
Doesn't mean shit when it requires a mandatory long charge animation in a game swarming you with bullets from all sides.

>>379602460
Fuck that, he's better off watching on Youtube before stooping that low.

Actually playing it is always best though.

>>379602602
Agreed, if you have a PS3 or 360 you really should play the game

>>379598162
>the ass made the smells

>>379597087
Pretty much. Imagine if the androids looked like horizon zero dawn's character. and was made in the west. It would be shit.

If you played the first Nier and you unironically were satisfied with Automata, you deserve death.

>>379603550
Well I'm glad I didn't play the first Nier because it sounds like playing it turns you into a faggot.

>>379603550
Automata is objectively better

>>379593410
>>379594209
is running a 7700k at stock speeds good enough or do you overclock it?

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>>379591160
>BRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP: The Game

Will we be getting any more Automata DLC or was the arena all there was?

>>379602596
>It doesn't justify equipping a whole weapon unlike on 9S.
Given the girls get twice as many weapons, it has strong transition and charge attacks, yes, it kind of does.

>small sword will
Require you to dodge its counter attacks. Spear doesn't.

>Spear moveset is just overall worthless and slow.
You're starting to sound like a 9Sfag.

>Learn SD cancels.
The things that make transition attacks even better?

>9S charge attacks are way superior to on-hold charges as they are actually usable in a heat of battle.
You mean from twenty miles away, whereas the girls have transition attacks for meleeing things and charge when they want to deal absurd damage.

>He loses nothing
He loses half the melee moveset.

>No normal Pod attack comes close to a hacking with a good chipset.
Hacking gets one exclusive chip that makes it marginally stronger. Pod gets two that collectively quadruples its damage output plus range damage items, and Pod B spam is already better than hacking. How far did you get into the game?

>Doesn't incorporate Pod program spamming nearly as well
She's identical, except she deals way more damage between programs.

>doesn't have nearly as much range
Heavy evades in general are on par with 9S's ranged attacks and berserk means she's hitting with them much harder.

>safety
The best defense is a good offense, and no one has a better offense then A2.

>doesn't allow her to literally disable everything in a large aoe with each hit
After fiddling with a minigame for several seconds, compared to just slaughtering anything with a couple square taps or Pod B.

>not to mention the lack of auto-heal shenanigans.
We've been over this, waiting out auto heal is a non-factor and A2 has Offensive Heal.

>In other words, A2 sucks ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwK-yxcJxaY

>Which is exactly what happens for enemies.
No, you're just waiting it out. There's also the question of whether charging up Pod Programs in battle is even worth it over spamming Pod B.

>>379602596
>because he actually has more than one useful move with it
Like a charge attack? And how worthwhile is using those normals compared to a small sword, which the girls can use during the toss?

>Doesn't mean shit when it requires a mandatory long charge animation
Berserk by itself already laughs at swarms, the charge attacks are when you want to rape single targets.

>>379603550
Well they're two of my favorite games of all time and I found automata to be a perfect sequel so I do like it more. I suppose I will accept my death then

>>379594007
A2 just has a taunt, there's literally nothing else.

>>379605436
>berserk mode