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Which graphics card should I buy?

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>GTX 1060 6GB
>RX 570 4GB
>RX 580 8GB
>GTX 1070 8GB

>1080p
>Games like Total War, modded to fuck Fallout with ENB, Arma 3, GTA V, DOOM etc + future sequels of these games and other similar games.

1070 seems like overkill for 1080p and 1060 seems like a meme for DX12. Is 580 enough to run those on 60FPS+ and new games for the next 2 years? 4GB VRAM doesn't seem enough.

CPU is 4590
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>>379590925
Personally I use a 1060 and it's fucking awesome but it kinda depends on your current situation like if you are planning on doing a large-ish upgrade to your pc you might want to get a 1070.
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I'd say that the 580 could run games for the next 2 years at 60+fps.

The problem is that the miners have them all, so the price is stupidly inflated.

If you can get one for a modest peice i'd recommend it, i have the 5704GB and love it so far. Play Doom at 120fps.

Otherwise get the 6GB 1060, great card all around, just won't be sure about the performance in upcoming games
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>>379590925
Get on the used market get FuryX or 980ti for much cheaper. I got a FuryX and can run all the games I've played, including the ones you've listed, at max settings 1080p 60fps easy.
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>>379590925
Almost every RX 580 is at GTX 1070 price at the moment and they're out of stock everywhere.
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Good fucking luck getting your hands on an AMD RX card. If you can beat the Ethereum miners to the punch and get your hands on one in the 30 or so seconds they are in stock you could easily turn around and make a hundred dollars selling it to miners on Ebay.
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>>379591567
what games do you play at what res?

>>379592656
>>379594263
>>379594636
I don't mind to wait a few weeks or so until they come back in stock.

Is there going to be an 8GB 570?
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I have a 1080
Still not enough for my ultrawide monitor
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>>379591567
agree with this guy playing 1080P up to 1440P with certain games
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>>379590925
I've got a 1070 and it is absolutely overkill for 1080p, but it's nice being able to rest assured it'll run literally anything that isn't a resource guzzling crap port or emulator at AT LEAST 60fps.
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>>379595550
>>379595667
Ok I'm thinking of going for the 1060 6GB now. It's cheaper than the 580 and about the same performance.

Which is the best one from these? (mostly reliability and quietness & temps)

>asus turbo
>galax OC
>msi OC
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>>379590925
how desperate are you for a new card? Vega is right around the corner, but for real this time.
I have a 1070 with a 6600k and can get 144fps in pretty much any game no problem.
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>>379596437
>Vega is coming guys
Sick of this meme, been hearing it for years
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>>379596437
even whenever it comes out, it's going to be more expensive than 580 so no point if i could just buy a 1070 now
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>>379597163
>years

Why do you lie?
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>>379590925
DO NOT buy an AMD card. Nvidia needs our support right now.
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>>379596413
EVGA w/ ACX cooler.

(sorry)
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>>379597574
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>>379597442
he's right tho
But Vega is actually coming this year
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>>379597694
But Vega wasn't even a thing years ago. Polaris was the thing before Vega.
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>implying you need more than 2GB

Bait.
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The RX4/580 market is so fucked right now because of mining, I'm selling my card for 2x what I paid for it and getting a 1070 with cash to spare, it's amazing
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>>379596413
the cheaper of either MSI or ASUS imo. I don't know shit about Galax so ehh.
I think the MSI is quieter and the ASUS preforms marginally better.
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>>379590925
I got a 1070, it is overkill for 1080p. But i don't regret it. No stuttering, plus it's more or less future proof for the resolution.
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>>379597667
this one? it's actually one of the cheaper ones. same as asus
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>>379597879
Serious, what is going on there? I thought Bitcoin mining was becoming less of a thing
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>>379598056
Etheruem mining is the hot new meme right now.
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>>379598056
The RX480 can make about $4.50 a day mining alternative coins.
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>>379597574
>75% market share and growing
>needs our support
Nah, fuck off.
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>>379590925
DO NOT BUY A NEW GPU NOW
>buying any GPU for 1080p gaming
you're a fucking retard. Any person with standards stopped being satisfied with 1080p 3 fucking years ago, it's time to move on. Do not buy a card that cannot play modern AAA games 1440p 60fps.
>buying a 1070+ GPU
1070 is the minimum standard for 1440p 60fps gameplay and it costs $350. You shouldn't buy a minimum standard card for any more than $250. Wait for price drops/Vega release
>buying a 1080ti
only buy this if you need 4k gaming RIGHT NOW (like I did) and don't be upset when next years $400 card outperforms it
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>>379598350
>1070 is the minimum standard for 1440p 60fps gameplay and it costs $350
$350, my ass. More like 450-570 euros depending on the exact version.
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>>379598313
What are the energy costs involved in running it all day?
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>>379598690
Pretty high since you use 100 % of your gpu 24/7
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>>379590925

buy whatever the best you can find for a bargain

now fuck off
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>>379596413
Zotac Amp
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>>379598350
kek this autism
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>>379598763
So then what's the point? You would be making so little that it would take years to pay off the cost of the card alone
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>>379598918
Because you potentially earn loads of money.
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>>379598918
I think they are hoping for another Bitcoin explosion
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>>379598026
not that one no, that uses the shit stock cooler.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-ssc-gaming-acx-30-6gb-gddr5-vr-ready-graphics-card-1280-core-1607mhz-gpu-1835m

That one.
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>>379598845
it is the only good advice ITT

poor children arguing over which 1080p limited card is worth purchasing is fucking pathetic in 2017. the answer is get a $150 470/570 and be happy with what you can get until an actually powerful card with a good price:performance ratio is released
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>>379599069
Etheruem is worth a ton right now.
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>>379596413
I just got an EVGA 1060 6GB SSC delivered yesterday and I love it so far although I haven't really had a chance put it to work yet but so far very impressed. Now just deciding which game I haven't played to try on it first.
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>>379599187
I'm running an 6gb evga 1060 ssc w/ acx cooler.

Perfect card for 1080p which is all I do.

Might begin to struggle with higher resolutions - if you're playing above 1080 you probably want to be looking at a 1070.
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ok which is the best from these four?
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>>379600327
not that evga, see >>379599113

and idk, your budget - you decide.

Personally, i'd go evga or msi.
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>>379600327
I have the asus turbo, it's working nicely.

I'm pretty sure the only difference between all 4 is default OC and how they're cooled down.

I'd say the MSI one would be the best if it had 6 Gigs of ram.
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>>379600693
they're all 6GB. I think all the same price too.
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>>379600813
It says 3GB on the box of the msi though.

I mean it looks like it says that, it's hard to see.
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>>379600921
it's just a stock image senpai. you get the idea
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I feel like putting off building a computer even more until next year or even longer, not like I wanna play any new games.
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>>379600327
>paying $250 for a card that won't even run above 1080p for 75% of games
why don't you just throw your money in the garbage
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>>379601152
Why don't you just learn how to read ?
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>>379600327
>that ASUS
don't buy a blower card unless you need it
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>>379601027
if you dont need it now, then just wait - you'll get yourself a better deal.
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>>379600327
WILL YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
STOP
MAKING
LOSS
EDITS
JESUS CHRIST ITS BEEN 10 FUCKING YEARS
A DECADE
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So it's really not worth building a new PC right now? I was thinking of buying a new one in october or so for Destiny 2 and total warhammer 2. Budgets meant to be around $1k or maybe a bit more.
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>>379601578
when would I need a blower card?
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>>379602526
Small form factor case or any time it's better to get hot air from the gpu directly out of the case instead of letting hang about in the system
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>>379602526
if you don't have any fan blowing in or out of your case
if you have a small case
if you need the heat to go out of your case
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>>379598350
good goy
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any of the RX u mentioned so that u can mine coins while u don't play
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>>379590925
I literally bought a 1060 this week. Switched from an AMD card that miners made the price 3x what its actually worth.
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What can I do to upgrade this old piece of shit?
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>>379604260
Replace everything, or just get a modern low end gpu like a 1050 or 460
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>>379590925
I would get a 480 4gb or 580 4gb but good luck finding one at a reasonable price due to cryptominers. If you need one now might as well get a 1060 but im sure it wont be long until a crash and fleabay will get flooded with cheap 480's and 580's
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>>379604260
sell it online for $200
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>>379604260
Best possible upgrade there would be either two things.

Replace hard drive with a smaller SSD if you are just looking for a snappy feeling computer. Everything loads instantly. You'll have to reinstall windows onto it, and then use your old hard drive for storing large shit you dont care much about load times like movies, music, etc.

Replace graphics card with a 1060 6GB. Most brands will do if you aren't overclocking. People get autistic about coolers but 99% people don't need to.

Logicalincrements .com will help
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>>379606190
>1060 6GB
>throw $50 in the garbage to get 5% better performance on games that already run over 60fps at 1080p
1060 3b or 470 or go fucking home. spending extra for a "nicer" 1080p card is a bullshit meme
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>>379605540
>>379606190
I bought a 1050ti to get me by until I can build a new comp. Thanks guys
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>>379606704
>1050ti instead of 470
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
enjoy losing 40% of your performance for the price of a chipotle burrito
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>>379606853
They're all sold out
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>>379590925
1070 is not overkill at all. In fact it will struggle with some games at max settings. You'll need it for ARMA 3 because ARMA is so hindered by cpu. I think you won't be able to max out games like Witcher 3 and the Division. Tomb raider is hard to run also
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>>379590925
>1070 seems like overkill for 1080p

It's not.
t. 1070 owner
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>>379606704
I hope it works well for you
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>>379607181
It seems silly to not go for something that is overkill. You're not aiming for adequate performance, you want the best fucking gpu you can afford so you bump up the graphics in every game you play
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What's the best CPU to be paired with a 470?

I have an i3 6100 right now.
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>>379597893
I have the MSi GTX 1060 6G Armor Edition, it performs flawlessly but it has some fucking annoying coil whine. Can only hear it with the side panel off. Also, it weirded me out that fans don't spin until temps reach around 30 degrees. Plus the cooler looks kind of meh, I might switch it out for an NZXT one.

Also remember that you can't SLI 1060's. You can x-fire rx 480 tho
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>overkill for 1080p

what is this meme? dont you like higher framerates? You do have a 120hz+ monitor dont you?
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>>379596413
I have a galax and it has great temps and runs quietly. Though there are semi passive models, you should probably take a look a these.
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>>379590925
>seems like a meme
People should stop using 'meme' in connection with everything
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>>379608547
600hz master race here
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>>379610575
What did he meme by that?
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Is Gigabyte a good brand for GPUs?
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I'm a little pissed the 5xx came out like months after I bought my 480, but I love the card. Freesync is cheaper than Gsync, too.

Only problem is I guess the RX is popular with bitmining faggots so they might be hard to get.
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>tfw want a 1080ti but psu is 50w below recommended wattage
should I risk it?
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>>379597835
NuLara requires a lot of memory.
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>>379613056
No. Trust me bro, PSU should never ever be skimped on. It fucking sucks if it dies.
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is a 1080 still viable or do people either go for a 1070 or straight to a 1080Ti these days?
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>>379613191
the coolermaster psu calculator says I would need like 510 watt though, my PSU is 550
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>>379613375
I like more leeway, but as long as your shit is rated Gold you should be okay.
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>>379612640
Brand doesn't matter if you're not retarded.
I always bought the cheapest, and it always worked perfectly even with high overclock.
Right now I have a PNY 1070 that's 50 bucks cheaper than the cheapest one, and it works great, never heard of that brand. Had the cheapest 970 from an unknown brand aswell, worked great.

Only time where you don't take the cheapest is with the motherboard and power supply.
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Going to get a 1070 soon, I currently have an i5 3570k. How long till my CPU begins holding me back? I don't care about anything higher than 1080p buy I'd like to play at a higher fps at some point in the near future
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>>379613562
is a Gold rating a thing or something?
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>>379613591
Truth. Well, I still prefer some gpu brands due to cooling, and like Samsung SSDs, but yeah. Mobo and PSU shouldn't be dumpster brands.
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>>379612994
>Only problem is I guess the RX is popular with bitmining faggots so they might be hard to get.
Currently they're all either sold out or cost 200% their msrp. I blame AMD for not keeping up with demand. The same happened with the 480 and the r9 290
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I just bought an RX 460. Did I fuck up?
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>>379613669
You're going to lose some juice to heat.
Copypasta:
The 80 Plus Gold rating meas that the PSU is rated for at least 87% efficiency at 20% load, 90% at 50% load, and 87% at 100% load.
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Good luck finding a 570 or 580 in stock anon
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>>379614031
RX 460 doesn't have bad specs at all. Maybe a 10-15% difference compared to a high end Nvidia card in that range but it's gonna play any game at 60fps.
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i have an i5 7600k processor

will i be able to upgrade to the 1160 or whatever the next series of cards is without bottlenecking?
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Not OP, but it's a Gaming MSI 1050 good? I'm building my first PC
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>>379614310
No. Unless you are content with playing on low to medium setting for the newer games.

>>379614296
Depends on resolution. 1080p yes. Upwards. GPU bottleneck.
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>>379614296
Yes. You don't even need to overclock even though you have an unlocked cpu.
>>379614310
MSI has good fans in their shit. Go for the 1060, though.
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>>379598604
I got mine for 380 yurop coins 6 months ago.
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>>379614283
My rig is fairly old, and my 6870 just died on me. I didn't realize the one I ordered didn't require a PSU hookup, and that was a bit of a red flag for me.
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How much wattage should you be using for your PSU to be safe?
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>>379614450
>Depends on resolution. 1080p yes. Upwards. GPU bottleneck.

im only interested in 1080-p 60fps gameplay anyways so thats good

>>379614489
Yes. You don't even need to overclock even though you have an unlocked cpu.

too bad i have a locked motherboard
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>>379614637
60? Nah. No bottleneck. I thought you meant 1080p144
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>>379614092
I think it's only 80 plus, not 80 plus gold, am I fucked?
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>>379598604
You can get it for around that price if you wait for it to go on sale. Reddit has a good place to check for this: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/
I bought a new one for $330 last month.

>>379614310
You will be playing on medium and low, but it's the best low budget card you can get. I would recommend saving up for however long it takes, raising your budget, and building a PC with at least a 1060 or 580.
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>>379614541
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-460-vs-AMD-HD-6870/3641vsm7744
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>>379614795
>60? Nah. No bottleneck. I thought you meant 1080p144

yeah 1080p 60fps with all settings maxed is enough for me. my tv is only 1080p and 60hrtz after all
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>>379615063
i5 7600k is fine for 1080p60hz for a long long time.
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>>379614450
>>379614489
>>379614996
This is what i've got so far. I don't have too much money so i don't know which graphic card to get. A friend recommended me a zotac 1050 but maybe i can save some more money.
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>>379615043
I'm feeling pretty good about my purchase, then. I get a more power efficient card with a 50% increase in performance? That was well worth the $100.
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>>379615356
Ditch the i5 and get Ryzen. Only get intel if you need iGPU or gaming (7700k)
Get 2x4GB over 1x8GB to take advantage of dual channel
Get a proper PSU unless you like your entire build going up in flames.
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>>379606654
3gb isn't enough. at all.
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>>379616824
Of course it is, what does the 6gb do better than the 3gb other than a 5% performance boost?
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>>379598690
Low enough to make profit if you already own an AMD card but if you live in a yuropoor shithole you will never make money if you buy a new GPU.
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=30&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=500&CostPerkWh=0.12
Also anybody advocating gimping non gaming capability of AMD cards should die.
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Amd is all bought out by fucking miners so its not even an option now

either 1060 is great value and 6gb will last you longer

1070 is optimal if you have extra 100$ and more future-proof
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For the 10th time.RX 500 series is literally an overclocked RX 400 series.
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>>379590925
You should get the 1070 if you have the money, but the 1060 is good as well

Just don't get the 3gb 1060 because it has less cuda cores and only 3gb of vram

AMD cards don't exist
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>>379590925
>anything over 60hz is a meme

Shitters gonna shit
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>>379617474
I also forgot that with time and the increased number of miners mining become harder and harder. Unless the value of ETH keep going up I dont think that people buying new gpus are going to make a lot of money in the short term and anyway the market cap of ETH is already half the market cap of bitcoin.
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>>379617474
LOL. Not only are you fucking your card and even your whole CPU even, that calculator is more than optimistic. The only way you can get positive earning by mining on your own(even joining a pool) is to hodl so that means you will have to wait more than a year just to know if you're really profiting or fucking yourself for nothing.
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how good is a 1070 for 1440p 60 hz gayman? the 1080ti dream was crushed by my shitty psu
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>>379590925
either the 1060 or the 580.
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>>379617436
Do you know what VRAM is for?
(It's not making it go faster)
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>>379618873
>(It's not making it go faster)
>VRAM VRAM VRRRRRAAAAAMMMMMMMMMM
>not for going fast
man who named this shit
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>>379617474
What's to stop these assholes from piling all over Vega and inflating its price? I hope the high end price bracket would deter them from buying high end Vega in bulk.
It will be hell finding one stocked, would be infuriating if I ended up buying a 1080Ti for cheaper with similar or better in game performance anyway after all that waiting.
>Also anybody advocating gimping non gaming capability of AMD cards should die.
If anyone should die its those fucking buttcoin miners. Just use ASIC and fuck off you fucks.
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>>379590925

Just get the 1070. You can supersample games if you have more horsepower than you need. You can get one for like $350, often cheaper.
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>>379620120
>1070 cost like a 1080/1080ti in your country
>1080ti cost like titan x - $200 to $300.
FML
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>>379601887
anon are you ok
I don't see loss at all in this.
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>>379598918
>So then what's the point?
you can get 6k a month with 10k setup. it's not "so little".
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>RAM prices
WEW
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570>1060>580>1070
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>>379590925
Is a XFX AMD Radeon RX460 4GB a good choice for 120 yuros? Pic related.
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>>379621504
I just installed the 2GB model in my case yesterday. Of course I'm not getting Max settings/60 fps out of it, but considering I paid $90, it's not too bad.
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>>379621504
the gtx 1050 performs better most of the time. If you can find it for around the same price as the 460, you should probably get it instead
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11th time. RX 500 series is just an overclocked RX 400 series.
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Does anyone know when the 1080ti of Galax will come out in the US?It seems nice.
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Is i5 3470, 8gb of ram and 1060 going to be enough to play most current/soon to be released games on high/ultra at 1080p/60fps?
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>>379622228
>Galax
This is mostly in asia. You probably have to import.
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>>379621726
It seems to be decent for the price, at least judging by the reviews.

>>379621917
I was initially going to get one of those, but they cost around 30 yuros more than the 460. I'll take another look at comparisons though, thanks!
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>>379598350
>Wait for price drops/Vega release
>Wait
Anyone that gives you the advice with anything related to waiting for computer parts or any sort of fast advancing technology you should immediately discard their opinion into the trash bin. I've had friends literally never build a computer because they are always waiting for the "next big thing" and as soon as they even so much as get a whiff of something new coming up they shelve the idea of building one right off the bat. It's fucking pointless.

Get the best possible card you can with the budget you have. Don't fucking wait for the new thing to come out and then by the time the price for it is affordable and all the beta testers have complained about any issues, you will be hearing about some new fucking shit. You will always be disappointed regardless, but at least if you make the decision now you'll be able to fucking play video games (I guess it makes sense why /v/ doesn't play video games).
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I want to get a RX 460. Are 2 gigs enough for 1080p with medium settings? AA is irrelevant.
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>>379604260
If you plan on keeping the same mobo, get i7 3770
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>>379618706
Thats why you use something shitty like a reference r9 290 that you already own and plan to get rid of.
But you are right to say that mining isnt very profitable if you buy a new GPU.
http://www.mycryptobuddy.com/EthereumMiningCalculator/path?hashrate=30&power=500&chartView=profits
>>379619820
ETH can only be mined with GPUs.
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>>379621504
No, just get a 1050 ti.
460 is junk and not worth it.
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I snagged a 4gb 580 at Microcenter like 3 weeks ago. $220.
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>Ryzen 1600
>1060 6gb
>8gb 3200mhz ram
>B350M mobo
>EVGA 600 bronze power supply
>nzxt s340 elite

Did I do good?
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if you are just shooting for 60fps and not 144hz, you can get one of the cheaper cards out of that bunch.
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>>379623386
I would've paid less for the case and put the money on more ram or a better quality psu, but other than that, I think you did good
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I got this one OP, but the non OC version so i fucked up a bit (non OC was like 20 USD cheaper)


im pretty satisfied though, can play Todays games @Ultra 60fps 1080P
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>>379623152
This is absolutely retarded. You should wait to see how Vega performs in coming months, and depending on how it competes there is a good chance that nVidia will lower prices to drive sales. Even if you don't get it there is also the possibility of chipset refinements in pre-existing models. Moreover in waiting you get to see what sort of improvements there are in the new hardware rather than jumping on the bandwagon and buying into a hyped up +10% like the Kaby Lake disaster, except the +10% was +30% TDP.

Furthermore considering 4k wasn't the design goal for any card on the market short of the 1080ti that makes it considerable smarter to wait since the refinements over the generation will likely create models that are more driven to succeed in the 4k environment, and even if you're not using 4k it still stands to reason that since it's the new de facto standard that it's smart to build to accommodate it for the future.
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mid range go rx580, it's silly to even consider the 1060 when the 580 exists.

above that amd becomes irrelevant but the prices also become ridiculous, if you got the money the 1070 is always a good bet.
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>>379623924
meant for >>379623575
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>have an old 8350 that cost me 160€ brand new
>have 8gb ddr3 actually running at 2400 (1200mhz)
>have an r9 290

>the first thing i still do in every game is setting the graphics to ultra

strangely enough the newest games seem to run better than games from the last couple of years too.
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>>379598918
Obviously there are a lot of variable, arent there, dummy?

I did the math on a $2400 ETH rig on craigslist and it would have paid for itself after 4-5 months.

It spits out an ETH per week. One ETH is worth $275. My power bill would triple but I'd still net ~$600 a month.

The reason I didnt get it is I keep reading that ETH is moving away from mining and I'll have to use this thing to mine other coins, and I'm not smart enough to do that.
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>>379613240
I don't know why anyone would consider a 1070 with the price gap as small as it is between a 1080 and a 1070. It's $80 in some circumstances, which says to me nVidia and co. are attempting to give the shit away. And frankly I'd go with the 1080, even if the difference is marginal it really adds up.
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youtubers who buy 1080ti to play minecraft
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>>379624678
I went 1070 right after the price drop hit partner cards, and cus I can't afford to upgrade past 1080p. Then when the next gen of cards come and has 4K comparable with the 1080ti for half the price, I can pick one up and a 4K monitor for the same price as a ti.

Maybe.
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Should i upgrade?
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>>379625424
unless you are sure to like every future triple no.
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>>379590925
1070 is a fantastic card. you get a lot of bang for your buck but it's also higher end (not complete budget) so it will be relevant for longer. I humbly suggest you seriously consider a 1070.
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>>379624678
can 1080 go high on all games at 1440p 60 hz?
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>>379608007
Tell that to people who have 1080s but still turn everything down in PUBG because it gives them more advantage :^)
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>>379623180
Today I played MGSV with everything cranked to high, and RE4 on max settings with mine. I'm gonna say yes.
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>>379596413
Gigabyte, faggot.
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