Which Makes More Sense?

>>379585436
Neither one inherently has any sense. They're both completely arbitrary.

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>>379585436

>>379585436
Shut The Fuck Up

>>379585436
Playstation buttons at least have meanings to them, instead of just being arbitrary letters.

Of course it's up to the individual devs to actually follow the button conventions.

>>379585560
That being said, A for action, X for enter, B for back and Y for banana is clearly superior to shapes.

M+K

PS
>1 line
>2 lines
>3 lines
>4 lines

XBox
>LoL LeTtERs xD

A B X Y

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>>379585436
/vr/-era Nintendo > Sony > Microsoft > modern Nintendo

>>379585673
This

>>379585673
>y button on x axis
>x button on y axis
this is retarded and dont give me bullshit where you place the coordinate system anywhere else than in the center of all 4 buttons

this 5

>>379585436
I always assumed A meant accept and B meant back which is what they were used for most of the time

also i imagined X and Y were just usually random assignment slots like variables (hence x and y)

Sony's method is more logical but devs didn't use it the way it was intended a lot of the time. I don't get why so many PS1 games had X as accept

>>379585436
Literally almost every multiplats discussed on this board use R1/R2 instead of RB/RB.Obvious, really.

B A X X Y?

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>>379585692
>O
>one line

>>379585692
Circles by definition can't be a line you mongoloid.

>>379585745
X is a check mark
O is an empty check 'box'

>>379585673
B A not A B

retarded gooks

>>379585745
PS1 games mapped confirm to X because that's where A is on Nintendo controllers

>>379585745
Because Its important button
Triangle and X make are pointy shapes both used to do something specific. Square and circle are roundish buttons used for general purpose.

>>379585860
No, the PS1 was based on the SNES controller which has A where O is.

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>>379585704
>preschooler colored buttons with the letters next to them
>better than anything

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>>379585860
Dude

>>379585745
Because X is the button your thumb is resting on most of the time, obviously. Many Games do it with Square too, but I guess that's just because X is usually jumping in that case

>>379585646
Random symbols have meanings over the letters that we use everyday?

>>379585436
your favorite

>>379585910
>I hate nice looking things!

Jap/euro SNES controller has the best aesthetic

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>>379585436

>>379585436
All Sony had to do was put the circle button at the bottom if they wanted to go with the logical "O is yes X is no" thing. The only reason it's backwards is because gooks apparently have weird thumbs that instinctively reach for the right button, just look at Nintendo's controllers, they still put the fucking A button way the fuck up to the right and they actually use it as the standard "accept/jump" button to boot. Goddammit Japan my big white american thumbs don't work that way.

>>379585436
Letters are more efficient to communicate to other people both in writing and speaking.

>>379585995
*tips*

>>379585959
X = cancel
O = confirm

I forgot what triangle and square me

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>>379585963
>I'm an autist that needs their controller to be bombarded with colors and can't appreciate a simple sleek design!
I bet you think the original GameCube controller looks good too.

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>>379585963
>nice looking
Are you autistic?

>>379586070
Triangle is viewpoint
square is menu

>>379585959
()-yes
><-no
/\-view points
[]-maps\menu

>>379585730
You're retarded because it's not a coordinate system. It's buttons on a controller you autismo.

>>379586070
it was triangle = navigation and square = paper for information

>>379585436
They both make sense.

>>379586070
I'm pretty sure Square was for documents and Triangle was for home or something, I remember reading that they designed it for standard computer tasks back in the day and that was the intent with the button designs.

colors only

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>>379585995
Have fun only playing games that were designed with the mouse in mind faggot.

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>>379585436
The face buttons aren't the issue here.
>LB, LT, LS, RB, RT, and RS
>L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, and R3
The choice is obvious.

>>379585436
clear Red, Blue, Green and Yellow makes more sense then

pink, very light red, light bluish gray almost purple and teal

>>379586070
>>379586102
>>379586117
Did Sony really give these as a guideline for what to do with each button?
I've always felt that right button=confirm, bottom button=cancel, and the top and left ones to just be auxiliary shit

>>379585851
but Sega made the layout Xboxes use.

>>379585704
I still don't like it that the buttons are not colored in the new controllers

>>379586078
>>379586085
>wanting some colors on a controller is now autistic

>>379585692
Circle is infinite number of lines.

>>379585436
The worst part is that they both have an x but in different spots

>>379585818
Neither can squares or triangles mayne they're shapes amirite xD
Oh wait, you're fucking stupid.

>>379586173
You know you can map controls to your mouse's buttons, right?

>>379586272
There's a difference between small highlights and a fisherprice toy.

>>379586117
Alternatively there was also triangle for head, square for left hand, circle for right, and x for legs.

>>379586218
They are meanings assigned by the guy who designed the controller, Teiyu Goto

>>379586340
Good job mounting all two buttons on a mouse lmao.
It would have made more sense to post a keyboard. But even then some games simply do not work with a keyboard.

>Sony controller
>O means no
>X means yes

>Xbox controller
>red means no
>green means yes

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>>379586334
>what is below basic geometry.
I know you just finished school for the year but that doesn't mean you're a genius kid.

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Am I the only idort here?

>tfw have both DualShock 4 and Xbone controllers

>>379585436
X means jump
Square means attack
Circle means shoot
and Triangle means special

Now you can play any PS2 game.

>>379585560

PS symbols aren't arbitrary if they have a meaning. Circle is yes, cross is no, triangle is in-between both meaning close or nearly done, square represents a sheet of paper like a menu. Their position is based on the necessary immediacy in which you'd want to usually press them as long as your thumb rests on the cross (easy accept, little movement to deny or see options in menu, a broader movement up to triangle for selecting uncommon maybe options outside the typical yes or no).

These were what they meant in the beginning, but each developer did whatever anyway.

>>379586334
>I never passed geometry

>>379585436
They should really just say fuck it with the next gen controllers and fix the dam things. B for Blue, r for red, g for green, y for yellow

>>379586409
Oh you're talking about consoles, nevermind.

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>>379585436
the letters they use for these buttons are single-syllable and are way easier to quickly read, understand, and convey to others than ex/cross, circle, triangle, square, so they are better
even in non-english language locales they are probably still easier to understand and convey, should you know the pronunciation.
i don't have any real preference between XY/AB and YX/BA as read top-to-bottom, but as long as the X/Y buttons are definitely the auXiliarY actions and not the primary A/B buttons for your thumb to rest on it's cool.
also dualshock layout sucks penis

>>379585436
Right is always right

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>>379586350

>>379586310
nintendo too
being an idort can be tough sometimes

>push X flashes on screen, have 0.03 secs to think about if I need to push the top, left, or bottom button

>>379585809
It's a line joined end to end, is topography that hard for you?

>>379585656
How?

I'm used to all three layouts. I'll play Tekken 7 with a Logitech controller with Xbox layout today and then do some shrine hunting in Zelda, maybe accidentally press B to select instead of A once, but adjust again in no time.

>>379586426
in Japanese version of games the O is confirm and the X is cancel

in almost every localization they swap them around

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A, B or C?

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>>379586598
>playing game on Switch
>need to hit A
>hit B because that's where it is on Xbox
I've never been more embarrassed

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I can accept symbols but I still do this day can't stand the Stick placement on a dual shock. It's better on the PS4's controller but the PS2 and PS1's suck major ass.

Nintendo's layouts and Sony's layouts sre the best because they were present first and are distinct from eachother without being confusing, aside from mayyyybe the X buttons.
Microshit just tries to rip off SEGA and ends up fucking the musclememory of anyone used to one of the two biggest layouts thst was already there, which is s fucking stupid design choice.

>>379586696
Where's the Mystery Box?

>>379586696
A
Colou[/spoiler}rs are nice and deep

>>379585436
I love the dualshock, it's probably the best controller design there is, but holy fuck do I hate the "shapes" instead of letters meme. Seriously, fuck off.

>>379586795
>ends up fucking the musclememory of anyone used to one of the two biggest layouts thst was already there, which is s fucking stupid design choice.
If you can't remember that Xbox and Nintendo have a different layout, then you have a learning disorder.

>>379585436
Well Xbox s makes more sense being the y on y axis and x on x compared to Nintendo that makes zero sense.

A being yes and b being no makes sense. So does bottom center diamond position being yes.

Circle being no makes no sense, I agree with Japanese that circle should be yes and x is no. But the positioning then of the buttons is off with yes being right and no being down? If anything no should be left then or square.

The Xbox one is the only one that makes total sense to me, but each one makes some sense. You usually play a couple hours and get used to any controller anyway.

Except motion controls, that makes no sense because it's inaccurate as hell and laggy. Any controller or mouse/keyboard that's modern will do.

On the same subject, you know what doesn't fucking make sense? Oblivion s default keyboard key binds. Hit e to jump, space for interact. NO

>>379586442
DS4/Switch Pro/Xbone fag here.

I don't understand why anyone would willingly use the Xbone pad. I only have one because my Oculus came with it.

>>379586893
>I love the dualshock, it's probably the best controller design there is

Fucking hell the underage

>>379586923
>game gives you less than one second to hit the A button
>

>>379586969
I'm 28, bub

>>379586938
>A being yes and b being no makes sense.

A = accept
B = back

>>379586938
Motion controls have their place.
Maybe not Wii-style autistic flailing, but aiming with a gyroscope is a good idea. I wish the mainstream shooters used it.

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>>379586963
The xbone pad is comfy on the hands, unless you have manlet hands or something.

>>379586938
>Well Xbox s makes more sense being the y on y axis and x on x compared to Nintendo that makes zero sense.

The Y axis is vertical to the side, that's where the nintendo Y is, while their x is on the horizontal top

When playing video games I have naturally come to call the bottom/right buttons A and B and the left/top buttons square and triangle regardless of what console I'm playing. I only play consoles socially and it switches around a lot depending on where we are playing i.e. FIFA on ps4 then Halo on X1.

People give me shit but they always know what I'm talking about when I explain the controls

>>379585436
The color layout of the xbox controller makes more sense and subconsciously helps you remember which button is which.

Y pointing up
A pointing down
X to loot things
B is the extra button you rarely press.

>>379587015
A = abandon
B = begin

>>379586963
I personally feel the xbone controller is the best feeling controller in my hands and on my fingers with the joysticks ever made. The PS4 is also a great controller but just has a few things i never use like the touch or the motion. Touch and motion are both terrible for videogames.

The GameCube controller grip wise is amazing, but the octagon plastic edges for analog sticks makes zero sense by then and so does a different shaped c stick.

Maybe I'm strange though, the duke controller isn't too big for me and I liked the analog triggers like the dreamcast

>>379587148
Actually, my hands are so big that every controller feels small.

The thicker handles on Xbox controllers make them feel shorter proportionally, if that makes sense. They feel weird.

>>379587269
That is the shittiest button layout ever.

>>379587076
Yeah light gun games are fun, but controller and mouse and keyboard with virtually any game as standards. I don't think I get anything out of controlling the game in any new way, I'd rather have a refined well built standard.

>>379587324
faster

>>379585959
one line, two lines, three lines, and four lines.

>>379587083
This is just disgusting

>>379586473
That's so abstract that it's essentially arbitrary.

>>379587148
The Xbone controller feels smaller than the DS4 to me

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>>379588303
now I know why they call it an xbox

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this if it replaced the face buttons.
anything else makes no logical sense

>>379585436
Playstation, because there's an actual meaning behind them. Its been a while since I read it, but the designer actually used each symbol for something very specific.
Its something like:
Triangle: Special power/ability (like how triangles are seen to have special powers in culture)
Square: Open Menu
Circle: Yes/Confirm
Cross: No/Back

So only XYAB is arbitrary, so I'll go with PS, even though I almost never use a PS controller, it actually does make more sense

>>379585436
Something to note: in japanese versions of games, the functions of the O and X are switched from the western versions. Its weird.

>>379587324
t. shitter

>>379587791
Yeah the color scheme on those is terrible.

Somebody place the X button on the Gamecube controller (>>379587269) on the A button here >>379586504

>A B X Y
>not A B Y Z

>>379588812
>Phoneposting
Don't you have some streets to shit in?

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>>379588827
>not A B C X Y Z

PS Buttons are more consistent, they are shapes.

Xbox is silly because whilst they are letters, they have the first two letters A and B and then X and Y which aren't the last two, but the second to last and third to last.

>>379588648
In Japan, 'O' means correct, 'X' means incorrect.

>>379585881
>square
>roundish
I get your point, man, but damn, couldn't you use a different word?

>>379585436
X360 controller confuses my brain because I'm used to Nintendo's letter layout and PS's colors

>>379585436
They both make perfect sense? this is a console war thread isnt it?

You hit the same buttons no matter what the console is. The fuck is this thread?

>>379590942
Thinly veiled console wars.

Neither they are both arbitrary though we can all agree that anyone calling the PS shapes "O and X" instead of cross and circle should jump off a bridge.

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>>379585436
customizable keys, baby

>>379591060
Alright makes sense. Stupid thing to argue about really.

>>379590942
>>379591060
It's a discussion about which makes more sense.
My last console was a ps2 and I think it has inferior colors.

>>379586070
>>379586102
>>379586117
>>379586127
Meanwhile, in real life:
X=confirm
O or /\=cancel/menu
[ ]=what the fuck ever

Someone post the 4 X button controller edit

>>379591370
>>379588812
>>379588303

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>>379585436
>He calls it "ecks"

>>379585436
ABXY is perfect

>>379590689
If that confuses you I wonder what every Nintendo console past the SNES did to your brain.

>>379591201
>No numpad

>>379589165
>no gamepad will ever use this buttonpad type combined with the additional shoulder buttons and triggers to add more input options

Then again seeing as how most of the crowd that plays video games are, it's likely we're better off with this reality.

>>379591887
those are for pussies

>>379586173
>what is a usb controller

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this is best

>>379585436
Left mostly because of A/B.
A, accept, green, forward.
B, back, red. stop, cancel

>>379592467
how can we compete

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>>379587083
>>379587269
:^)

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>>379591370
>>379588812

>>379591243
the X = yes O = no is just an English region thing.

a b x y in any orientation because you can't type a square or triangle easily when talking about controls or cheats etc online

>>379585436
Sony fanboys will prefer the right even though the left has been superior for decades

>>379585436
do people really call dualshock buttons by their shapes and not colours?

>>379585436
I prefer the letters because of the sibling pairings between A and B and X and Y

>>379585560
That's not true.

ABXY makes sense to anyone who uses the phonecian alphabet. It's the first two letters and the last two, in alphabetical order from left to right as you would read them, with A and B being the primary buttons therefore beinfneasiest for the thumb to access from a diagonal angle wrapping around the controller, with X and Y being secondary and requiring a slightly longer stretch.

It's just symbols with PlayStation. They've always had the least logical and least comfortable controllers with the DS4 being the exception in the comfort department.

Sega, Nintendo, and Microsoft have all produced more logical and comfortable controllers.

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>>379591617
ecks-fags BTFO

>>379585692
You're a dumbass.

>>379585436
Left has 4 buttons. Right has 4 buttons.

>>379585704
Wrong, Sega is ahead of Nintendo, and Sony would always be dead last.

>>379585436
the one that is quicker to say aloud...
>aye
>bee
>ex
>why
as opposed too
>tri-angle
>skwa-air
>sir-cull
>ex

>>379593442
That's why Saturn is the greatest controller ever made.

XYZ
ABC

No confusion, it's completely natural.

>>379593621
>tri-angle
>skwa-air
>sir-cull
>ex

green
pink
red
blue

>>379585436
It might be because I mostly played on the PS and PS2 as a kid but the shapes make more sense to me than the letters

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>>379593687
Who calls them like that??

>>379593442
>xy
>last two letters

>>379586257
Buy sparepart buttons for your controller of choice and take your controller apart and swap the colours, cheap as hell and takes an half an hour unless you are retarded.

>>379585436
At least Sony TRIED to make it look like they weren't ripping off Nintendo. Microsoft cleary had no shame.

>>379585673
Why don't the japanese controllers have katakana instead of english alphabet?

>>379593890
I know right, the last two are ö and å

Doesn't really matter, but the letters are easier when teaching someone to play because the words are shorter.

>>379585436
From a design perspective the playstation buttons are way better considering the universality of geometric shapes.
But in practice there's really no difference other than getting use to them. I'm somewhat used to both types of button prompts, but will still make a couple of mistakes here and there.

>>379593969
It's a culture thing. The Japanese think English is cool.

>>379589165
if they managed to put analog sticks on this,and a decent Dpad it would had been the best controler ever

>>379593490
why not just put a X in there?

>>379585673
Based.

>>379593890
Not counting Z, usually used for corded or back facing buttons, yes.

>>379593969
its called romanji

>>379585673
The slightly squashed diamond layout of the buttons is also better than the perfect square everyone uses today.

>>379585910
I agree anon, the playstation controller is dumb and it's shit-tier pastel colours belong in grade school.

>>379586085
That puzzle actually looks pretty hard.

>>379585656
O should be for ok
X for back

>>379594507
it literaly has the solution under it.

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this is the ideal 2 button controller
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

>>379593687
>>skwa-air

Square is one syllable you simpleton
Triangle is three

>>379594704
>no pause/restart button
damn sega trying to make me stay fit

>>379594914
>Triangle is three
only if you pronounce it like a retard

>>379595045
"tri-ang-le'

>>379585656
I call B the bitch button because only bitches melee

>>379585673
>A on the right
will never understand this
it should be either at the bottom or left for a letter that important.

>>379593687
>Green
Teal
>Pink
Pink
>Red
Pinkish red
>Blue
Grayish purple-blue

>confirm button is circle/B in japan
>ps1 era/early ps2 era the fucking triangle was the back button
why?

>>379596141
try an gol

>>379596578
i don't know if it's actually their logic, but maybe it's because japanese read right-to-left

same bullshit was in the metal gear solid games for years. circle to confirm and x to cancel

>>379585809
>>379585818
>>379586290
x^2 + y^2 = r^2

One single line.

>>379585673
This is the true way to position ABXY