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Trails/Kiseki: Zero edition

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For all the EOPs who just started Zero, how many hours have you put in so far?
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flap flap
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>>379582640
2 seconds, I just checked the game was running properly. Still need to play 3rd.
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Calvard when?
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I found it funny some people keep shitting on this TL version. They forgot at this point people just want to know what happened in Crossbell. Who cares about the quality of the water if you dying in the desert.
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>>379583832
>I found it funny some people keep shitting on this TL version.
I just wanna play more Trails. I don't really care. I know some moonrunes and tried playing the JP version, but I don't know enough fantasy terminology in Japanese to make sense of it.
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>>379583832
People were also shitting on the Gagharv Trilogy translation despite it being perfectly readable.

It's like they never played old JRPGs like Final Fantasy VII which had truely awful translations.
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>>379582640
Finished it in about 42 hours. All memes aside the translation really isn't that bad, most of the main story text in particular is completely fine.
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>>379584429
FF7's translation is pretty decent considering it was one non-english dude with a month or two to complete it
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>>379584429
>despite it being perfectly readable.
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>>379582640
Last thread wasn't enough? Give it a rest for fuck's sake. Stop making threads for the sake of making them or take it to /vg/ if you need a general that badly

>>379583832
That project is doomed. I feel bad for their programmer because he seems to be the only one who has kept himself away from the drama and just wants to get shit done.
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>someone posts something about the unfinished Zero patch/Gagharv being of acceptable quality for a finished product
>without fail, it's always some third world ESL monkey
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>>379585205
Every fucking time

Mile's fucking braindead expression really sells it
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>>379584429
Gagharv Trilogy was literally machine translated my dude

You might want to rethink how contrarian you're being right now
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>>379585205
You need to take into account that most people who find that, or the Zero patch "readable" are ESLs. They don't really care about the quality because they don't really understand what is wrong with those scripts.
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>>379585474
>tfw not ESL and am just deprived for more Kiseki content even if the patch is subpar
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>>379585205
>tfw I will never walk out of a girl
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>>379585323
Gotta feel for the translator also. English isn't even his first language.
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>>379585665
>tfw can't keep on a journey
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>>379583832
Nobody's been shitting on the translation itself, other than calling it unfinished, which is literally what it is. It's an old version of a dead project that died a few months ago. The build that was released was from two years ago from before the lead on that project made the files private, so it's almost two years out of date. If someone shits on the patch it's like shitting on a freshly-poured foundation for not having walls or a roof.

People are shitting on people for sleeping on said foundation while claiming it's a "perfectly acceptable shelter with everything you could want in a house"
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>>379582640
1 minute. I'll play it when I have guarantee that Ao will be translated. So probably never.
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>>379586067
Shouldn't it be "Elie MacNotaswellendowedasrixia"?
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All I know is an unfinished translation was leaked and that another on-going translation is going to be better.

Do I have the facts straight? If so I can wait. Haven't even finished SC yet, have TC to worry about after that as well.
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How do you even get zero running? Do you need the chinese pc version and the patch?
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>>379586316
PPSSPP
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>>379586349
The psp emu? Oooooh and just patch it in?
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Gameplay in Zero already feels improved 10x then TiTS.
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>The final boss theme of Cold Steel II is a longer version of the theme playing when the aion kick ass in AO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dga3Vw1NQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ6oxEkTJOU

What does it all mean?is it that both are machines powered by sept terrions
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>>379586581
The Azure Arbitrator has that motif too, so it probably doesn't mean anything
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>>379586581
It means the sound team was being lazy with EOV and reusing leitmotifs because they were phoning it in and the result was a shitty fucking awful generic theme fuck EOV
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Zero no Kieseki is out in english?
I think I've been under a rock for too long.
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>>379587209
Someone created a patch based on a two-year-old build by the old team led by a guy who wanted a 1:1 Japanese:English translation with no editing.
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>>379587069
>It means the sound team was being lazy

You mean Jindo, not Sound Team jdk. Jindo isn't bad, but most of his orchestral work sounds exactly the same. His early arrangements were more diverse and now he suffers the Motoi Sakuraba syndrome.
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>>379586067
I'm pretty sure Ellie get NTR'd by Rixia in the next series.
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>>379586529
Oh boy wait till you see Ao's improvements, anon.
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>>379587943
To think how hard Sen shit the bed after that.
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>>379587295
I think he did want editing, but he dropped the project butthurt like shit.
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>>379586067
But it already has
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>Go to sleep while browsing yesterday's thread and turn off computer
>Come back and check it on archive to see what i missed
>The moment i left a shitposter comes in and lowers the entire quality of the thread by attracting (you)'s and replying to himself

Why the hell do you faggots even respond to him anymore? He uses the exact same phrases and way of speech, plus all the sen faggotory false flagging ONLY happens when he starts talking about EOPs or some shit.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13146210

http://www.strawpoll.me/13146216

Since there's a lot of shitposting for these past few months I want to see how people will answer these 2 questions.
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>>379587943
>Oh boy wait till you see Ao's improvements, anon.
You mean the bag of nerfs?
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>>379588343
Who's working on it? I know there is partial script roaming around.
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>>379588426
You're kinda making liking cold steel a loaded question there. I come here to talk about the games, but i still had fun playing Cold steel.
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>>379588426
I didn't answer the second one because I haven't made it to Sen yet. Still working on Zero.
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>>379587823
Nah, it was more like bringing Rixia makes the most sense of all since she's all about stealth.
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>>379588518
The spreadsheet has all of the main plot translated. Unless you care about random NPCs you're basically good. Hell by the time you get done you may have learned enough japanese to get the gist of what the side NPCs are saying.
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>>379588426
Do the captcha's in straw polls now prevent people from rigging the results like before?
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>90% of the Sky OST is a remix of the Sky OST
Bravo Falcom, bravo. Honestly, bravo. I loved the way they kept repeating the iconic melodies in various tracks
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>>379588119
But it's good.
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>>379586179
Onegai respond.
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>>379588818
Yeah, super good, the single good addition it made to the gameplay is being able to put same quartz in different lines. Completely raped the magic system and master quartz.
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>>379588534
I just asked it since a lot of people talk about Sen like they're the worst games ever and anyone who likes them are shit eaters.

>>379588745
People can still change IPs and vote multiple times
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>>379588831
There is a fan TL of Zero. It isn't perfect, but you can play the game and understand the story. Ao does not have an in-game TL, but a dude translated the entire main story script into a spreadsheet for his girlfriend, so you can play it with a little effort.
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>>379588969
I like it.
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>>379588656
I'm not so desperate to play with a spreadsheet and yes, I care about random NPCs.
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>>379589052
Learn moonrunes then EOP.
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>>379588831
There is a terrible leaked translation patch of Zero out, but another group is working on finishing it.
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>>379589178
>terrible
It's certainly not terrible, but not good either. It's ok at best.

>finishing it
You mean the group who went apeshit because people started playing the leaked version? The group that went on a break for a few months? The group that admitted they barely scratched the surface of editing it when they've been working on it for half a year now?
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>>379589409
It's pretty much as bad as it can get without outright being completely incorrect.
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Why do people think that this series has the deepest lore
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>>379589468
Because of shit like NPCs mentioning vague memories of the plane Cassius was on in FC crashing with no survivors two games before we learned about KeA
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>>379589468
It's more like we enjoy the consistency and world building it in it, and NPCs being fleshed out and talking about stuff about the world and foreshadowing some other stuff too. It's just attention to detail.
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>>379589575
dum bitch got tricked
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>>379589575
If I pulled his mustache off, would he die?
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>>379589640
The funny thing is that she wasn't.
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>>379589640
Who? Renne wasn't lying there.
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>>379589468
It's not "deep" just good world-building. There are recurring side characters and subplots that are funny and interesting and are often used to help flesh out the character of the main party or villains.

It's writing 101, but so many games fail at it that it's nice to find one that doesn't.
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>>379588656
There are relatively important NPCs in Ao like Ries, Julia, and Mueller
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>>379588656
The gf guy is now working together witht the guys who had a very early Ao TL project going. Probably better to wait for that project than ruining your Ao virginity with some ridiculous spreadsheet experience.
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>>379589693

He'd pick up a sword and get much stronger.
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>>379590831
He's 10 years rusty with no sword practice, plus he shows no signs of being any less proficient at using a staff.
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>>379590831
He's a strong guy.
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>>379582640
I'm 26 hours in.
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>>379590967
I miss these.
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>>379590937
All of his moves are OP in 3rd but the strongest one is the one where he becomes a ghost and hits all of your party. If his AI was smart enough to use his self buff and spam that he'd be getting way more game overs
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>>379591113
this one's still the best
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>>379589468
I think it's more the amount of world building. Not many other series have 8 games in the same setting that build upon each other without stepping on each other's toes.
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>>379590206
I know enough moonrunes to get by. I just like the spreadsheet as confirmation since I'm at an intermediate level at best.
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>>379589468
The game has great writing. You will connect the dots from the events of one game that happen in another. It's pretty neat.

Do we get to see more of Kevin in Crossbell? I'm not out of Zero's Prologue yet, was just curious.
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>>379591612
He shows up a few times, and he gets a moment of glory in Ao.
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>>379591612

Only in Ao, hungry hungry Ries' adventures continue.
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>>379591689
Do they ever re-mention Phantasma?
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>>379588489
>Elie's Holy Bullet doesn't affect her anymore
>Lloyd's buff is reduced to + 25% Str/Spd only no more +Def
probably some others but these are the most significant when it comes to crafts

Shit.
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>>379592376
They make up for the Burning Heart nerf with Burning Heart 2.
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>>379592376
Burning heart works better later, the real problem is that it's not 5 turns anymore but instead it's 3.
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>>379592532
Burning Heart 2 is still five turns though.
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>>379592557
Oh, i remembered that the upgraded version was still 3 turns, my bad. I do remember Randy's AT down AoE being way smaller in Ao too.
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Alright guys. I give up. There's an imperfect and okay at best translation out there and I'm dying for more Trails.

Is there any good reason I should stay away from it?
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>>379592680
Instead of asking us go play it yourself and check if you think you can stomach it. It's perfectly understandable, but you'll run into some weirdly translated shit like pic related.
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>>379582640
Not bothering with a butchered TL. I get enough ESL shit on /a/ so I don't need it in my games as well. You fags said TC would never happen so I'm just gonna continue waiting for an official release so I can support the series.
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>>379582723

I'm playing the *flap flap* translation, about an hour into the game so far.

Is the whole game translated in that translation? I've resigned to accepting the shitty translation but I'd rather not play it if the translation stops halfway or something.
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>>379592898
What a beatiful cousin *chew*
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>>379593463
Everything is translated.
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>>379589178
>but another group is working on finishing it.
Currently on hiatus until omgfloofy is done having her period
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>>379593662
Until after AX you mean?
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>>379593658
Appreciated, I'll just play through it then.

The translation is honestly not as bad as reading these threads made me initially think. It's still crappy at a lot of points, but definitely playable.
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>>379593698
I don't even know what's an AX, much less her menstrual cycle.
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>>379593901
Anime Expo which she's hosting an event at
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>>379593807
Just so you know, apparently there's some weird glitches here and there, like let's say, if you find something suddenly in Japanese, reload back the save, or save and load it and it will be translated. Stuff that requires image editing like the investigator notebook is not translated since it's an image. But that's only the information part of it, like quartz and spells.
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Rixia is cute !
CUTE!
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>>379592898
actually made me laugh

Guess I'll hop to it then
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>>379594024
Ilya is cuter !
CUTER!
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>>379594131
Sully is cutest !
CUTEST!
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Where can i get some fucking worms for fishing? Why is there a fucking request to fish a shitload of eels?
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>>379594841
>Why is there a fucking request to fish a shitload of eels?
It's a joke. Eels are believed to increase the libido in Japan.
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>>379594759
Rixia's dancing clothes are freaking perfect UNF.
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>>379595330
>Agate gets mysteriously hit by a rocket in Sen III
>Has to get the part blown off reconstructed by Tita

All according to Keikaku.
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I like Trails!
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>>379593968
Never happened to me, the only things I encountered that weren't translated (aside from shop names and the manual) were enemy battle quotes, one of the final boss's S-crafts and the one dialogue box in the short ending movie.
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>>379596332
Well a movie would also require editing so it makes sense, same for shop names.
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OUT OF SIX FUCKING WORMS I GOT ONE FUCKING EEL AND I'VE GOT TO GET FUCKING 10 OF THEM FUCK THIS SHIT THIS RIGHT HERE MAKES IT THE WORST GAME IN THE FUCK SERIES FUCK SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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>>379596646
Save before each fishing attempt. I haven't reached that part so i don't know how bad it is, but maybe there's a better spot for it?
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Reminder that Cold Steel is trash and ruined the series and CSIII will probably be shit to just by looking at the bloated cast.
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>>379592898
>Leaving "Eeeh" as it is instead of making it "Wow", "Huh", "Seriously" or something else depending on context

Why do so many fan translations do this?
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>>379596903
please no
not again
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>>379585734
What's happening here?
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>>379597176
The guy presumably wanted the translation to be as close to Japanese as possible. He apparently left the project for some reason, and the current patch is from before they could revise any of it.
Maybe he left due to butthurt that people wanted to revise it in the first place?
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>>379590206
Link?
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>>379588818
>Sen
>Good
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>>379596903
"Cold Steel was a mistake" - Toshihiro Kondo
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You think an enforcer/Anguis is going to die in Sen III?
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>>379597714
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>>379596903
stfu cold steel has taken this series to new heights
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>>379596903
>bloated cast

Not too bad, no more than any other Trails game.
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>>379597809
We know by now that death doesn't mean much in this series

I'm more interested in who's going to un-die
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>>379598173
>Death doesn't mean much in this series

What about that pile of salt? I'm pretty sure that one's not coming back.
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>>379597875
The games sure brought in some new audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M4AE8u5Eho
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>>379598173
Why
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>tfw i love all trails games
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>>379598349
I think he's referring to the revival plot that Zephyr wanted to do for their dead leader. Since it implies there's some way to revive the dead.
I kinda doubt there's not going to be a nasty side effect if it does happen.
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>>379598232
There was some unused text from 3rd heavily implying that he died and was resurrected prior to the events of FC, at least
The removal of that mention probably means it didn't actually happen, but just in case it did, he technically un-died once already
so he had his chance

>>379598436
Osborne too
Even if he didn't literally die and get resurrected, or whatever the truth ends up being, the impact of showing up alive after being thought dead doesn't diminish in intensity
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>>379598535
If he was implied to do die before FC it kinda makes no sense, or at least there was no foreshadowing of such a thing in the entire game, so it's probably a scrapped idea. And even then it kinda sounds dumb that he'd for some reason have died and came back to life.
Plus, his pieces were scattered in pure salt inside of the Liberl ark, and now they're gone, and the city collapsed, there's no coming back from that.
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>>379586581
But that's not the final boss song for CS2 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goj8hyy_L0M
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>>379597215
If my google translate is working then the gist of it is:
>Someone got a leaked out of date version of the translation
>It's unedited, and full of mistakes like typos, missing line breaks, wrong terminology etc
>Battle dialogues untranslated because the hacker had trouble finding battle text
>Images were translated but the guy who was typesetting didn't do it
>They hadn't decided on a name for one of the final boss moves
>Warning people who play it to not expect a great translation

>>379597875
Senshit pls go
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>>379598789
>>379598535
The implication was meant to be the reason they went out of their way to use a stake of salt to kill him was so that he couldn't be resurrected. Obviously the Church would have no reason to risk using something so dangerous just to kill someone unless there was a very good reason for doing so.
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>>379598889
But there was a good reason. He was a fairly powerful magic user, who also used a staff forged through those weird laws, who learned how to replicate stigmas, and erase minds, plus he was a heretic.
The bolt was there so that if it hit, there was no escape, and he couldn't just bail out by teleporting.
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>>379598269
holy fuck that video was awful
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>>379598889
What??Weissman died already once before? How the fuck did I missed it?
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>>379598086
It does feel that most of the cast doesnt really belong in the story. They have nothing interesting to say half the time.
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>>379599075
He said it was a scrapped idea that was found inside of the game's files. Probably trying to foreshadow the fact that he needed to have the salt pale used on him because a prior attempt at assassination failed.
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>>379599075
>unused
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>>379599009
That's still not a good enough reason. The Church doesn't even know how the Salt Pale works, and for all they know using a stake like that could cause a repeat of the North Ambrian incident. There was meant to be an implication that the Church knew Ouroboros could revive their members somehow.
>>379599075
No, it was a scrapped idea. I'm just conjecting the idea that it was scrapped because it was too heavy-handed with the foreshadowing and Falcom decided emphasizing the danger of using a salt stake was a better way to foreshadow the revival thing.
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>>379599098
>They have nothing interesting to say half the time

I can understand your fears, but at least wait for the game to be out before passing judgment like that. We already knew Osborne had something change with him when Hamel happened, and now Agate is investigating it, but we don't know his logic behind it, so maybe it's related to Osborne too. Crossbell's cast makes perfect sense, since the story is also about the liberation of Crossbell.
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I want to cum inside Tio
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>>379597714
What's funny is he actually thinks Trails in the Sky was a mistake
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>>379599227
>The Church doesn't even know how the Salt Pale works, and for all they know using a stake like that could cause a repeat of the North Ambrian incident

Read the report on the salt pale in the 3rd. That wasn't the first time they tried the bolt, and they tested it beforehand. It's not powerful enough to start another disaster.
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>>379599320
Wasn't that just his view on Estelle and Joshua's relationship? Because god forbid the player doesn't have control of who he wants to chase in their games.
It wasn't about the entire sky series.
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>>379599320
NANI?
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>>379598269
So these are the kinds of people that like Cold Steel... nice
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>>379599227
I wouldn't be surprised if they did decide to un-scrap and reveal it later, they probably just didn't want fans figuring out and speculating about it until it was more relevant
You know, like now

Either that or the "reviving the dead" thing will turn out to be some bullshit that nobody ever expected
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>>379599459
I like Cold Steel and Sora and I'm neither left or right.
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>>379598269
that hair tho
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>>379598843
If you wanna get technical that's not the final boss song either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtkTgWJ_ON0
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>>379599320
Why would he think Sky was a mistake?
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>>379599730
True I guess. Though I kind of consider Epilogue as a glorified required bonus dungeon.
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>>379599305
Me too.
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>>379599839
Because it set the bar so high he can't reach it anymore.
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>>379599842
He didn't say it was a mistake, here's the question.
>Chen Yun Yun: Which parts of Sora no Kiseki embarrassed you?

Kondo: I’m actually not too proud of the whole product. (laugh) When we were making Sora no Kiseki, it was during the period that we were trying to transition the Legend of Heroes series into the Kiseki series. Since the Legend of Heroes series is such an important franchise for Falcom, the whole team was working on it, including a younger me which had the feeling of “I don’t want to lose against the seniors.” As a result, a lot of effort went into the game. When I look back at it, it makes me quite embarrassed as there are a lot of story points which were too obvious, and things too unyielding such as making Estelle and Joshua a pair of lovers.
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>>379585205
Actually this IS perfectly readable.

Jesus fucking christ my brain can TL this to a normal sentence in a split second. Maybe that's because I still read books?

And hell English isn't even my native lingo. Apply yourselves.
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>le cold steel is bad meme
Getting real sick of thid
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>>379600629
Meant for
>>379599839
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>>379600640
>And hell English isn't even my native lingo
It shows
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>>379600629
>and things too unyielding such as making Estelle and Joshua a pair of lovers.

Making them lovers wasn't a mistake, it was something good, something right.
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>>379600686
Cold Steel is bad though, it's a bad jrpg and even worse when compared to the previous trails.
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>>379600629
He's probably poisoned by today's mentality that the player should be able to "choose" their love interest, and that pre established shit is no good.
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>>379600850
well meme'd friend
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>>379601026
Pointing out a bad game isn't memeing kid.
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Guys i am a retard where do I get the translation
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I wish Cassius was my dad
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Post CUTE
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>>379601116
check Archieve, it goes posted in the last one.
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>>379601198
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>>379601116
Fucking retard ruining this thread. I think it was on the archive
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>>379601198
>Joshua making Olivier surrender in the back for peeping
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>>379601198
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why the fuck everyone are talking with their eyes closed in Cold Steel game?
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>>379600850
shitposting won't get you hugs.
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How many times have they bumped uglies?
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>>379601518
Because Renne hasn't surprised them yet
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>>379600783
Yeah and? Should I kill myself for not living in a English speaking country? Me and how many billion others.

The fan TL is shit but readable if you put in the effort. It's not Booker prize prose but serviceable.
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>>379601198
Anelace
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>>379601630
Maybe you should walk out of a girl and keep on a journey
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Why is the Cold Steel OST so fucking good?

I'm in love with the Kiseki series guys, there is no turning back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Q1GO-49EQ
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>>379601198
bEstelle is cute
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AO ENGLISH PATCH WHEN?
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>>379601802
She is INVINCIBLE.
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>>379602315
or is she?


Girl hits like a truck though.
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>>379602218
Never ever EOP-kun. Play with spreadsheet like the rest of EOP
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>>379601927
What's the best final dungeon theme? Gotta be 3rd for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDjFAWBwvyI
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>>379602218
heh
never ever eop
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>>379601587
Regularly.

>the real reason Schera always gets him drunk is to have her way with him
>he's aware and doesn't mind
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>>379602315
Or is she?
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>>379602394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB9xkXuHquo
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>>379601802
Does she ever appear again after 3rd?
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>>379602650
No idea, still playing through Zero. Doubt she will show up since this isn't her country.

I don't see her being a thing in CSIII because she would ultimately still be irrelevant, unless Agate needed bracer support. I'd love to see her new 3D renders, if she has any.
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>>379602446
Did Oliver proposed to her in the end of 3rd or there are something that I missed?
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>>379602650
Not yet. Probably in Calvard.
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>>379602782
So she was just useless character and probably never relevant again huh? Damn, I like her.
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>>379602908
She wasn't useless though. I loved her side story with Richard.
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>>379602908
If you want a useless character who will never be relevant again, look at Josette
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>>379593954
>tfw you hate floofy with all your heart, but you know the only way to get rid of her is to take the throne as the internet's kiseki queen, but you just can't muster the motivation to do it.
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>>379602908
>>379602995
>>379603016
Anelace will never cross swords with Rean. ;_;

Damn, so this is true sorrow.
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>>379603016
I can see Josette being relevant though. Has an airship so she can move to wherever the story take places. Can't say the same for Anal
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>>379603179
Anelace will surpass Ka-Fai one day
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>>379603129
That's a good thing, if she showed up in III she'd just job to him.
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>>379603051
Who the fuck is that drama queen anyway? Never pay attention to Kiseki fans. Is she like Kagari for FF?
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>>379603250
Anelace canon beat Richard, who is leagues better than Rean.
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How much holding back will we see in CS3?
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>>379603340
The Chosen One can eat Richard all day storywise. Demon mode + Gundam.
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>>379601869
>Walk out of a girl

Walk out on a girl or broke up

>Keep on a journey

Keep on traveling

I haven't seen the context but I imagine that's what it would be. Unedited fan translations require a bit of puzzeling and moving words around. It can actually be fun.
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>>379603484
Probably a fair amount from Rean until the mixed shit is resolved.

CS3 seems to be the final game in the arc so I don't think it will be as bad as people in this thread seem to think it will be.
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>>379602394
FC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMkiLPa-NA

>>379602807
Well, we don't know for sure yet. I think he asked her to come to Erebonia to be with him.

>>379603179
I'd say both have an equal chance. The Capuas are busy with their delivery business which takes them to different countries so they could pop up at some point. Anelace is a bracer and could show up since bracers travel a lot as well. I wouldn't hold my breath much for either, though.
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>>379603337
Don't know who that is, but she's the self-appointed voice of western kiseki fans and everyone just goes along with it. Whenever people complain about anything she does, her cadre defends her as if she's the only reason these games came West and we all owe her.

Annoying as hell.
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>>379603521
Thats an official translation from Bamco.
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>>379603639
Owe it to her? What? I can somehow accept it if you say we owe it to hatsuu but a drama queen? Nah
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>>379603337
I know floofy but who is Kagari?
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>>379603051
Why are all the Kiseki e-celebs so mentally unstable?
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>>379603484
The screenshots show Juna and Kurt having more hp than Altina, so unless the new Class VII are already super strong then expect most of the game to be holding back.
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I will legit drop this series if Rean solo Steel or McBurn in CS3. Chance of that happening?
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>>379603484
Does the 11 fanbase get as antsy as we do about the holding back thing? I'm kind of curious.
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>>379604120
Juna has been shown to have a solo battle against a stahlritter, sounds like they're much stronger than the low tier shitters we played as in CS1-2. Almost too strong I'd say, Kurt has Vander status but how the fuck can a cop fangirl take on a stahlritter
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>>379604342
100% you can drop the series now.
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>>379604342
He'll end up fighting them but beating them solo is no no. They'll either hold back or job because of plot stuff.
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>>379604342
99%
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>>379604510
They were obviously training them really hard off screen.
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>>379604627
And the Ouroboros somehow just laze around and don't do anything at all?
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>>379599459
>Using a big man baby who can't take change or being outshined by the new generation to represent Sora fags

Was that intentional?
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>>379604746
MC training arcs are code word for, we're going to kick the villains ass even though logically the timeframe wouldn't allow for it.
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>>379604510
>how the fuck can a cop fangirl take on a stahlritter

Rean is apparently the best teacher who can turn a cop fangirl into being able to fight a stahlritter.
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>>379604510
I'm hoping that those shots of Fie/Laura/Juna are just zoomed in, and when you actually get to those scenes there's a full party with you. Because if Juna can take on a stahlritter solo, how strong is Rean supposed to be?
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>>379604342
MC privilage and with his special powers they dont need to explain much
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>>379598424

Recognize that each game has its faults
>Don't care because you're invested in the story, think the characters are likable, and enjoy the combat.

It feels good to enjoy things.
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>>379604342
I seriously doubt they'll do that much.
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You guys really need to lay off the fear mongering. The series hasn't ever made someone beat an enforcer that's times stronger than they were solo. Hell, one of the biggest complaints i see from people about Cold Stell "b-but muh class is weak, they need help from adults to beat Enfocers", or some shit like that, and now we're suddenly jumping to talking about characters soloing people like Ariarnhod and MCburn even though nothing of the kind ever happened?
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>>379604510
The same reason that Lloyd manage to get through .Willpower and max luck.
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>>379605037
Get ready for the Reancarnation of Dreichels, the Ashen super Shrek Divine Blade of Fire.
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>>379604342
100%. I think that the new article even hints that McBurn is interested in Rean's growth to see if he'll grow into worthy opponent.
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>>379605480
Implied he has "potential" but nowhere near the same power level as him, plus that most likely includes his divine knight in the mix. Apparently there's also the implication that he may want to make him an apprentice of sorts, so who knows.
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>>379605449
I don't know why people are so adverse to Rean becoming a Divine Blade when that was the logical endgame progression for someone practicing the 8 leaves. I won't be surprised if Richard was a Divine Blade or close to it at this point in time.
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>>379604342
If they follow the LN tropes it'll probably happen.
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>>379605130
Do tell me what was each game fault
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>>379604518
>>379604590
>>379605101
>>379605208
>>379605480
>>379605625
Fuck Kondom, fuck Falcom. Fuck everything. Fine, I'll drop this series. Nice knowing you anons
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They're banking on 1.5 years of training way too much for the kids to be able to fight toe to toe with the universe's more significant threats.

But then we remember that they're entering their 20's now and these kinds of stuff are fair game. I wouldn't quite say soloing Steel or Mcdude but maybe if they're all together and maybe.

Plus there's no reason Tio, Randy, Agate, and even Tita can't help. Aurelia is probably itching for something to fight too unless she also has some autism for running the school properly.
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what do we do if cold steel 3 is shit?
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Are you all fucking serious? Tell me when that shit ever happened? The closest thing we got was Joshua beating Loewe, and even then there was the fact that he never intended to actually kill them, and he had his views challenged by Joshua and accepted his point, which is why he lost.
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>>379605738
>Sora
Set the bar too high
>Crossbell
Started the shift towards LN pandering
>Cold Steel
Harem having, katana wielding, gundam riding, onion peeling MC
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>>379606091
Hope Calvard will be good.
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>>379605738
FC: gameplay is too easy and too slow
SC: pacing in the first half
3rd: the entire structure is questionable, some of the doors are pretty bad (especially Tita's)
Zero: too easy, chapter 1 is boring as hell
Ao: rushed ending, bullshit physical damage on nightmare
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>>379605925
Laura's power level going up will make sense at least since she goes off to train with her dad.
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>>379605602
Because he already has too many powers. Imagine if Cassius had an ogre form and a giant robot too, he could probably solo the whole continent.
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>>379605925
I don't care if they're 20 or 200, if Fie somehow defeats Shirley I am unleashing hell on earth from the pure and utter bullshit.
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>>379606786
>Implying that they're going to let him keep all of those powers at the end of CS
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>>379606565
>no flaws in Cold Steel
Sounds about right.
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>>379606893
There's a lot of ground to cover to start with that they did wrong.
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>>379606870
>Implying Kondo's self insert will lose his powers
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>>379606893
Everyone knows what's wrong with Sen, so I didn't even bother. I don't consider them bad though.
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So is someone planning on making a patch for Ao or will it just be available as an external text document?

And why exactly is Ao considered the best in the series?
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>>379605325
Nothing like that has ever happened because we have never had Rean Coldsteel unleash his true demon form before.
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>>379607109
Only the main story is translated in the document, so that's not happening anytime soon. Plus file organization has text by location and not story progression.
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>>379607259
But how can someone who's only 5 layers of mixed beat ALL OF ME?
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What was your favorite Star Door?
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>>379607259
>Rean's true demon form
>yfw he grows wings
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>>379607109
There was a patch already in the works, but the old translators had only done a fraction of the game. Girlfriend guy is now working together with them, so the Ao patch is pretty likely to happen at this point unless they all die. If I understand correctly, they're also working on extracting the voices from Evo.
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>>379607424
Renne, Olivier, Star door 14, Salt pale and Estelle+ Joshua's are my favorites.
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>>379607109
because it has a literal beach episode and you know how much people love that.

But now for real, for a series that is constantly holding back plot development and shocking swerves ao is just a rollercoster of reveals and raising the stakes.
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>>379607408
With the power of friendship
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>>379607259
his form will still be weaker than McBurn.
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>>379607443
>wings
>tattoos
>levitating energy katanas
>hair grows out
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>>379607259
I think it will give him a good boost, but not enough to solo them,MCburn on his own can incinerate Rean at full power. I think his main power source is going to be whatever the hell was the point of having both robots fight in the castle, plus the giant stone statue that Rean reacted to, that looks like Valimar. A screenshot from Sen III has MCburn looking at it and commenting on how "he doesn't sense any sort of power from it", or something along those lines. But apparently, it's not the same statue Rean reacted to.
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>>379607408
When all of you is mixed, none of you is mixed because mixed means you mix 2 things and if all of you is mixed that is only one thing meaning you aren't even mixed. Rean is normal mixed with mixed so his mixed powers are greater.
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>>379607761
>Reans hair grows out
>literally looks like Mcburn
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>>379607259
>McBurn standing around red gnosis plants
What if the key to the ogre powers is just doping yourself with Gnosis?
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>>379585884
>backpaddling
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>>379608060
>All of me meant full of Gnosis
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>>379608062
He's not lying though. Some people did start to shit on the current team that was working on polishing it even though they only started on it since December 2016, as a side project. Plus the files were dropped off by the translator, i don't remember why, but i think he became unmotivated due to butthurt for whatever reason.
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>the Entertainment District and Back Street are the only central hub locations thare aren't laggy on PPSSPP for Android

Fuck.
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>>379608060
>block the pink part of his hair and that's Rean's haircut
Please don't make Mcfag a timetraveling or alternate dimension Rean.
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>>379608410
your phone is shit
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>Campy is voiced by Kanae Ito
Real fucking effeminate huh
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>>379608513
but its a new version
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>>379608410
whats your settings
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>>379608720
What settings?
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>tfw Rean and Alisa from Falcom Gakuen are better than the originals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foqhxJOuRTY
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master quartz is retarded
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>>379607931
Damn, can't argue with that stone cold logic.
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https://qt.vidyagam.es/mnJRDGc.webm

Estelle a cute. A CUTE!
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>>379608523
I wanna fuck campy
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>>379608720
Default is set as Buffer rendering

What should it be set as?
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>>379609094
I want to see the first meeting with Olivier voiced.
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>>379608432
Maybe a long lost brother?
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>>379608060
He always had that hippie look.
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>>379608857
>tfw no game with american adol
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>>379609275
>Rean is just one of McBurn clone
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>>379609275
There's something hilarious about Mcburn's apparent obsession with cross-laced clothes.
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>>379609275
>>379609447
>same haircut
>same powers
>same chuuni clothes
I hope you enjoy timetravel plots guys.
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>top-ranking bracer
>divine blade
>war hero
>friends with many high-ranking people
>adopted an enforcer
>challenged a dragon and earned its respect
>charismatic and loved despite the pedostache
Why is this allowed?
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What exactly is the Phantasmal Blaze plan and how did Osbourne hijack it?
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What are some PPSSPP settings to optimize FPS for my Android? It's a brand 3 month old phone, and Zero is an older game.
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>>379609928
Dunno, misty made a very weird remark back in CS that she knew who he was. I'm betting on him being some ouroboros science experiment.
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>>379609930
how the fuck are they gonna fight Ouroboros then?

REAN POWER?
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>>379610334
This
Also fire/(((time))) orbment
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>>379610058
Nobody knows since Cold Filler spent two games revealing nothing.
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>>379610334
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>>379610848
Zombie Crow confirmed
>water-time orbment
>>379611075
Was this before or after Heimdallr? I always thought she was referring to Rean as the other Awakener
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>there are no romance options with ouroboros member
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>>379610848
you meant time is his main orbment time, fire is just secondary. Just like testarossa is the divine knight of fire and valimar the divine knight of time.

>>379611306
after. I thought so too, but the thing she was finding odd was that he shrugged off her magic spell to desguise her voice and him being the awakener doesn't explain her seing him before...
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>>379611306
It's after the Heimdallr field study, that "you" sounded a little strange. Here's a link to the scene: https://my.mixtape.moe/kkdspi.webm
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>>379611714
>after. I thought so too, but the thing she was finding odd was that he shrugged off her magic spell to desguise her voice and him being the awakener doesn't explain her seing him before...
I wouldn't put it past Vita to have been spying on the rest of the kids anyway, especially the ones involved with Crow.

>Valimar the divine knight of time
Valimar is clearly on the knight of mirage
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>>379611417
What's Sharon's darkness? Snuff?
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>>379612118
She still hasn't disclosed of her past before being Irina Reinford's servant but she seems really tied down to that past.
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>>379611917
What does spying on him have to do with him shrugging off magic that emma couldn't even sense? I could also mention how he simply dispelled the aura given off by zoro-agrugga on the heimdallr catacombs that was crushing everybody's will to fight. Both moments that seem to be related to divergent laws at this point.

And the knight of mirage is clearly the palatinite knight mentioned in the black records that disappeared. The element associated with black or grey is time, while mirage is white/silver and space is yellow/gold.
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>>379609231
https://qt.vidyagam.es/e6BSf9L.webm
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>>379612609
Patatinate seems to be purple in color which doesn't correspond to any known sepith colors other than fucking Lost Arts quartz.
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I hope all the Divine knights are destroyed in CS3 so that we never have to put up with those horrendously boring mecha battle mechanics again.
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>>379613098
I really do hope they mix it up from just being rock paper scissors
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What if the Infernal Castle was actually a gigantic antenna designed to mark and obtain some signals for the locations of other Divine Knights so that all 7 of them combined will become one of the 7 Sept-Terrion?
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>>379613563
CS3 has way too much to address. In one way, that means it can just have stuff keep happening and make it an exciting ride. The other way is just explaining the smallest bits of it and we get a CS4.
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What the hell is an Aion? Something from Crossbell arc? Crow mentions they're (presumably mechas?) stronger than even Divine Knights.
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>>379614414
Crossbell Arc.

The ones that hole-punched Garrelia
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>>379614414
>Something from Crossbell arc?
Yes.
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Why is Rean the chosen one?
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>>379614979
Because aside from having ogre powers, he gets to pilot a knight.

The 2nd half is honestly less chosen one trope since there can be 7 chosen ones in Erebonia at any time it seems.
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>>379614414
To be fair, what does a scrub like Crow know about a divine knights true powers? There is no way some robot is stronger than fucking full power Valimar.
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>>379615378
Because Ordine is a Divine Knight like Valimar
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I just want to know who GM is REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. They are not going to reveal it in our lifetime are they?
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>>379614414
Finished Gordias-class models (Pater-Mater) that are powered by the Azure Demiourgos. This gives them teleportation and reality warping hacks, so yeah, they're pretty bullshit.
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>>379615494
it's Aizen
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What's her endgame?
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>>379616301
chair sama?
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>>379616301
Bleach is so fucking retarded to not end after Aizen is defeated
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>>379616409
To not be bored
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Valimiar going bye bye
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why do people think McBurn is future Rean?

His hair? Maybe Kurt is Jusis' lost brother then
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>>379617208
Why do you take shitposting seriously?
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>>379617208
While I think it's complete bullshit, this is what I gathered

>Same Hair
>Fire Powers
>Mixed
>Sword
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>>379617208
Because Sen's writing was already subpar, and that's the single dumbest thing the plot could possibly pull
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How long is the last chapter for 3rd? Do I have to split up my party immediately or is it just another Gold-Silver Road?
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Saber Vipers vs Ravens

Who wins?
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>>379617772
It was just final dungeon if you didn't do the bonus one. You've to split the party into 4 team
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>>379617870
>Ravens
>winning against anything
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>>379618114
Ravens beat Ragnard when no one was looking.
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Grace Lynn is kinda hot
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CUTE!
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>>379620794
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>>379621084
Ries is the prettiest girl from Sky.
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Being able to play zero but only via a shitty translation and with no guarantee we'll ever get ao is somehow worse than not having it at all
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>>379621401
>that Pater-Mater cake
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>>379615378
To be fair, vermillion apocalypse can do everything the aions did and more. So even if one divine knight can't quite match up, two probably can.
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>>379621586
Nah it's fine.
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>>379621401
where are these pictures from?
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>>379621763
Most likely preorder bonuses for 3rd EVO
>>379621704
It's a bit disappointing that Valimar and Ordine doesn't have an awesome innate ability to just summon weapons like Testa Rossa did.
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>>379622264

I figured each Divine Knight has their own gimmick, some better than others. Valimar can link with other people to let it use their arts, Ordine has it's shining mode and Testa Rossa can summon a bunch of weapons.
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>translating Zero but not Ao

For what purpose?
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>>379622792
Zero is the better game.
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>>379622923
It's incomplete as fuck. Blue-balling the fans.
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>>379622960
better than nothing
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>>379622792
These things take time, not that hard to understand.
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>>379622561
Ordine's self buff mode is pretty lame then. Since we're heading back to Ordis I hope it was just Crow's shitty job of being an Awakener and not Ordine itself being lame.
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>>379615378

I thought Crow pretty much mastered everything there was to know about Ordine and that's why he shat all over Rean until Rean got good, and that's mostly because of Arcus links and Crow himself going out of his way to tell him how to improve.
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Here I thought Silver Will's original rendition was great and now the super arrange version is growing on me immensely.

Loewe with long hair looks weird as shit too.
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>>379623245

It probably depends on the person. Ordine's great if you want to run alone and have no secondary contractors because you either have no friends or had an overpowered witch help you solo the trial, where as doing that to get Valimar will gimp you.

While Valimar is the best if you have lots of allies, like Rean (or the first Emperor)

Meanwhile Testa Rossa is overpowered regardless but good luck getting it to not got evil and surpress you and rampage.
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>>379621683
I acutually never noticed the cake design before you pointed it out.
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I don't think we saw the full capabilities of the divine knights just yet. There's still some shit that needs to be explained on them, and some lost function or power.
Not sure if it will as bullshit as the Aions though, those things were on another level, especially the reality bending one.
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>>379623568
>Renne playing with the hose

Cute.
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>>379607424

Moon Doors:
Tita + Agate door. I ship them so hard holy fuck.
Schera door, because JK Aina and Shera are QTs.

Sun Doors:
Arena, because I was so well setup and OP that I wrecked what was obviously supposed to be a hard fight. Felt good.
Fisherman's Guild, because more Estelle is always better.

Star Doors:
The Salt Pale
The Banquet
Phantom Thief B Report
Paradise
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>>379624671
>I ship them so hard holy fuck.
you fucking monster
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>>379624076
Not to repeat myself, but vermillion apocalypse did everything the aions did and more. You saw it warp space in CSII. It's vermillion end attack is a hint that it can and did send stuff to other dimensions like aion type alpha did to garrelia fortress, as it did to entire armies and the palatinite divine knight in the black records. And as a bonus it has testarossa's weapon summoning, drains the power of anything nearby through seption veins and probably can assemble zombie armies.
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>>379624905
Erika pls go
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>>379625027
So while it has an enormously high chance of just going berserk, that dark dragon blood really buffed it to shit. Plus it's fucking enormous compared to Valimar and Ordine.
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>>379624905
Their relationship is pure. PURE!
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When do the best non-Zemurian Ore weapons become available in the store in 3rd? Will I find even better equipment in the final dungeon?

Don't want to spend more money than I have to.
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Which area where those goddamn blue blobs at again? I need to farm Kitty Suits
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>>379625786
I think it's on the 5th plane. Best to do it in the later parts since they have more groups of them.
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>>379625282
The dark dragoon blood is what made it go berserk, it was working fine beforehand. It's unclear if it that was the only thing done to it or if orthos did something else to make it even more powerful though.

You can actually compare how it originally looked (on the left) to how it looks now deactivated (bottom right) and see how it's limbs, torso and shoulders were stretched and distorted, and how it gets even more stretched and distorted as it begins to regain it's power.
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>>379626097
In before Olivert inherits Testa-Rossa and purges the dragon blood from it.
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>>379626968
>tfw Ozzy hijacks Testa Rossa somehow and is the final boss again
>plays 4d chess against you with weapon spam formations
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>>379626968
Well, that's what he was trying to do in CSII. But maybe Cedric wants to have another go at it, why not?
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>>379627093
>>379627165
You know, I don't really get why Cayenne wasn't able to activate Vermillion Apocalypse.

He claims that it needs the blood of the Reise Arnor and yet his ancestor is Orthros Reise Arnor, who activated it last time.

So why can't he activate it at all? I don't think it was ever mentioned that it was sealed with Driechels' blood whatsoever, so I'm not really sure why they had to use Cedric for that. Cayenne also mentions that he wanted to activate it himself only to find out he couldn't.
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>>379627458
Too much diluted royal blood? I don't recall the scene all too well.
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>>379627458

The weird thing is Driechel's didn't even pilot it right? He used Valimar.

And other knights aren't nearly as picky. Ordine took some random peasant dude from a recently conquered territory who wasn't even originally an imperial citizen.
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>>379628434
The other knights just have trials, can't have all the toys belong to the royalty.
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>Forgot to take Richard out for the dialogue variety during Chapter 7
Honestly, taking Richard out seems impossible with how fucking good he is.
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The jump in tech between what you commonly find around Liberl, to what i'm seeing on Crossbell feels super strange. How come Liberl doesn't have most of this stuff when they were the pioneers in a lot of fields in Orbal tech.
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>>379630103
It's been two years at the heights of innovation and industrialization so that's probably it.
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>Zero tl leak
>gf translator posts his Zero/Ao spreadsheets
>some other guy is translating Ao on his own
>some dude offers to translate the chinese pc version of Zero
>fan translation team still working on their version
I'm not gonna complain but it's kinda strange how many of those suddenly popped up.
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>>379630512
What a time to be alive
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Rufina's smiling face in that armor looks pretty hilarious.
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>>379630512
>>379630936
KeA did this for you, show her your gratitude!
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>>379631209
Aidios bless you, KeA!
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Kevin and Ries are becoming cuter to look at that Estelle and Joshua.
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>>379632145
>Kevin can't sex up this body vecause muh Goddess
Shame.
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>>379632806
He'd get cucked by bread anyway
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>>379632982
If Ein who smokes, drinks, is rude in general and seems to fool around is anything to go by, i don't think Church rules apply completely to dominions.
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>>379632145
Both are cute for different reasons.

>>379632806
Don't worry, eventually they will succumb to the Kiseki adopted siblings curse like the rest.
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>>379633409
Both have the guys trying to suffer and atone by themselves and the girls talking them out of it. I guess I find Ries cuter while Estelle is the funnier one. Joshua and Estelle don't banter all that much either.
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Nayuta is the grandmaster. prove me wrong
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>>379634138
Because Joshua put that smug bimbo bantz in her place early enough
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>>379634161
Is Nayuta a girl/sound like a girl?
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>>379582640
So will female Lloyd win the Reanbowl?
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>>379634138
>I guess I find Ries cuter while Estelle is the funnier one
Yup. Estelle and Joshua have nice development but Ries is cuter and Kevin is more entertaining, even in his edgelord more.

>>379634161
>stopped the destruction of an entire planet, best friend and waifu are gods, and has a loli fairy at his command
I'd be okay with that.
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>>379635615
She wins the Vanderbowl
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>>379635615
From what we saw so far Kurt Vander is going to win the Pink hair Crossbelian bowl.
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>>379597176
*paaahhhh*
*eh eh*

This is why super literal translations suck
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>>379625627
the final dungeon has all the best gear that isn't Zemurian ore
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>>379635632
His edgelord mode is justified I feel, as smugly irksome they are sometimes.
>>379636558
Sword of Vander in that IBC
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>>379601501
>"Say, young lady, my pants are awfully tight. Do you mind unbuckling my belt?"
>"It would be my pleasure."
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>>379635895
>be normal looking man
>fall head over heels with pink-haired cutie
>marry her ass
>she pops out 3 kids with pink hair

pink hair gene STRONK
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>>379609094
Why does the Evo version look so washed out?
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>>379609275
Osborne put Not-McBurn cells into Babby Rean. When Babby Rean went out of control, he abandoned him at Ymir.
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>>379637261
I vaguely recall that scene taking place in the morning.
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>>379637184
Silvery hair is normal now?
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>>379636631
These are stupid but "fufu" is still the worst imo.

>>379636782
>His edgelord mode is justified I feel, as smugly irksome they are sometimes.
Oh definitely and he's one of my favorites so I won't complain, it's just that it's fun to poke fun at some of his edgier lines.
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>>379637808
Kevin is by far my favorite protagonist, Estelle gets special mention for funniest lines.

I'm hearing how Randy just trumps Lloyd in the fun department but I'll see for myself.
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>>379637943
All of Kiseki's protagonists are great. Even Rean. Rean haters check yourself.
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>>379638175
What makes Rean good other than the fact he has super powers and a giant robot? I'll wait.
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>>379638175
Rean is average and is only saved by being at a really interesting predicament. Hopefully CS3 capitalizes on that said circumstances.
>>379638332
His circumstances for me, at least, what's set up for now.
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As far as the story goes for these games, do you need to play all the games in the series to understand events that go on in each separate title or can you hope in to chapter 1 of any of the series and get a good understanding of the others?
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>>379638410
>His circumstances for me, at least, what's set up for now.
He has no personality, though, unlike every other MC.
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>>379638494
>In each separate title
That depends. It wouldn't be the most problematic thing to start off with the first entries in each respective saga so starting off in Trails in the Sky FC, Zero, and Cold Steel 1 won't confuse you all that much. You'll only lose some past plot and character connections at most and lose some appreciation for a few particular events.

The 2nd entries are direct sequels so they're not the best places to start. TitS 3rd would make no goddamn sense or barely have any weight if played before playing any of the other TitS games. This applies doubly so for the upcoming Cold Steel 3 which concludes both the story started in Cold Steel 1 and Zero
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>>379638494
It's not a series where you can simply "skip to the good part", if that's what you're really asking.
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>>379638778
His personality isn't his circumstances. What I find interesting about him is that now he's fully aware of his lineage, is probably at a loss of what to do while laying low, has to teach students now and convince them he's not the HERO OF THE EMPIRE he's been built up to be, and how his shrek mode powers work. Literally everything about him aside from his character is somewhat interesting.
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>>379638494
You need to play the Sky games first in order to have a foundation for the rest of the series. It builds upon each new sub-series. If you simply play Coldsteel first because it's the newest, you'd lose out on a lot of references.
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>>379638175
It's funny to consider how they basically pulled Rean's character with Kevin with the whole "latent ability" shtick. Granted, the moment it's properly introduced, it's explained how and why it works in the same game while Rean's mixed powers show up in 1 and probably will be addressed by 3. They might be trying for something different in nature to Stigmas but even I can't think of anything that doesn't sound stupid.
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>>379638778
Don't confuse memes with reality. Rean has plenty of personality, as an example just look at how he handled Jusis and Machias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IosKsNCulLE
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>>379639747
Plenty might be an overstatement. Being able to talk down others and empathize is an extremely common trait. Personality might be existent but it doesn't stop him from being generic.
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>>379639921
Should have mentioned, extremely common traits in main character types.
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Out of curiosity, do most people also not like Rean because he's "special" while every past main character wasn't that special to begin with? Or is it just the way on how he's special handled?
I mean having a character who has the potential to be strong as fuck quick and not just "will take forever to be strong as fuck" like Lloyd and Estelle, shouldn't be a bad thing in itself right?
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>>379640463
I don't particularly hate him, I just don't think he's been properly handled. They dangled his super-power ability from the first game, gave absolutely no explanation for it, and then hinted something at the 2nd game. Part of me was happy that he got control over it by 2 but also angered with how simple it as. So when it's a plot point in 3, I'm angry how what happened in 2 was thrown out the window but happy that it has a chance to be properly explained.

The Divine Knights thing isn't too big of an issue for me. But another problem is that he's not characterized all that well, and Elise doesn't help. His problem with the aforementioned demon side isn't handled in universe at all either, especially by Rean himself who ostracizes himself over it but not a single soul in Ymir faults him or thinks lowly of him. So he has a few dumb points and that's mostly his character. Sure some of his self-loathing points might make sense but it's overshadowed by how stupid his actual problems are.

My biggest hope for CS3 is that Rean is handled properly.
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Liberl, Crossbell, or Erebonia, which one would you want to live in?
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>>379637756
talking about the pic from a previous post
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>>379641101
If purely from the perspective of what appeals to me most i'd probably go Crossbell, since i like the big city feel it has while not being that overwhelming, and actually fairly comfy.

Taking into consideration my personal safety and risks of shit happening to me, Liberl just seems way more chill about all the evil shit that happens around the world, like kidnapping, murder, demon rituals, civil wars and so on.
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>>379641101
Geographically, Ruan is the farthest from any borders, so either there or Zeiss.
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>>379641518
Helps that Liberl prohibits the use of jaeger units within its borders. Alicia runs a tight ship. Everyone knows those hooligans only bring misery wherever they go.

Crossbell seems mad comfy, though. And they already got the Orbalnet up and running.
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Determination of Fight vs Sophisticated Fight
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>>379642942
Crossbell's basically a big city that's not actually big, so you get the comfy and convenience of being in a "big city" which is nice.
On the other hand, if you take into consideration all the shit that happened in both games, it's also extremely risky.
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>>379640463
To be honest I don't hate him one bit. He went through some major bullshit during his time at Thors. Him being a special snowflake with his abilities and powers doesn't matter to me, what's going to matter to me the most going into CS3 is whether or not he actually grew up. Like >>379640869 said, he needs to get over his self-loathing drama and quit being such a bitch about pointless things.

It seems like him being an instructor is something he decided by himself, so I hope he'll mellow out a bit and act like more of an adult. I also hope he'll get made fun of constantly about his cheesy speeches. I want him to look back at his past and realize what a dork he's been all this time. I feel like, regarding Rean's situation, he still acts pretty human. I'm not expecting him to become an old sage in wiseness, I just want him to learn more about himself and become more comfortable with the person he is.
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>>379643038
Getting over the barrier
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Why isn't Anelace real and my wife?
fuck this life honestly
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>>379643240
Get this hothead outta here
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>>379643240
Now that i think about it, nobody ever called him out on his cheesy speech shit, while Lloyd got shit on constantly for it. I guess it kinda makes sense since most people around him are also his age, while Lloyd is an adult, but even then his cheesy stuff was played a little too straight.
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>>379609094
>>379637261
>>379637493
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>>379643837
Comparing it now, the Evo version feels like the city is covered in fog.
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>>379643807
People don't necessarily call him out but they constantly mention how Rean is able to make these speeches with a straight face and how some of that trait rubbed off on them too.
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>>379643240
I love me some spunky Estelle.
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So who's the most competent Jaeger corps around?
I think it might be Red constellation considering the shit they pulled in Crossbell, Their corps basically made an entire city their bitch and caused a lot of injuries, deaths and property damage.
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Is it possible to play that Zero game completely in english?
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>>379640463
Kevin was special as well, but written way better than Rean. As the daughter of the Divine Blade, Estelle is fairly special herself.

The difference with Rean is on multiple levels of having so many layers of special (8L1B, Ogre mode, Valimar), while at the same time being as self-loathing and 'woe is me' as other protagonists that have way more of reason to act like that.

The lack of a variety in supporting character roles aggravates this even more, in that almost everyone loves and respects Rean. Compared to Estelle, for example, who was justifiably looked down on by people like Agate or Morgan. Earning their respect felt good because it actually proves that she's grown. The only comparable for Rean would probably be Patrick, and that entire subplot was trash.
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>>379644796
>The lack of a variety in supporting character roles aggravates this even more
This hopefully becomes less problematic in CS3, cause Agate is literally there in person. Plus more than half of the students and faculty are going to shit on Rean's reputation and having to gain some trust anything big happens.
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>>379644518
Jester wrecked enough shit to get Cassius pulled in to stop them, but they did get destroyed shortly after that.
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I finished Zero yesterday (about 60 hours but I think I left the game on overnight).

Overall feeling disappointed. 60 hours is definitely a perfectly fine amount of gameplay time but it still felt short. There really weren't any compelling bossfights. You only had 4 party members throughout the whole game with the exception of people who just left after one mission. The Gnosis storyline really didn't really draw me and I didn't really view Joachim as a villain because he just sort of turned evil just like that.

I played on Nightmare and the only time the difficulty felt somewhat interesting was at the first like 20 percent of the game give or take.

I said this before but maybe I'm burnt out on Trails. It gets tiring to see the game do all the same things as the other ones. Enemies "holding back", not my true form, winning a fight easily on nightmare and cutting to a cutscene where you lost and needed help, getting caught in some sort of forcefield JUST LIKE WEISSMAN and then someone coming by and breaking you out. The very poorly written dialog like Joshua saying Wow this guy is even more evil and powerful than Weissman!!! As if he's telling me to make it feel more epic or something.

Maybe I'm just ranting. I didn't hate it but I was expecting better.
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>>379645305
Justifiably shitting on Rean is the key thing. All the ones that happened in CS can be blamed on the other party being a dick, like Machias, Jusis, and Patrick. Rean earning their respect isn't about both parties developing, it's about the offending side realizing how great Rean is.
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>>379646429
>Judging Zero without Ao
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>>379646606
Instead of just "seeing how great Rean is" again, they'll just come to level with him since he wasn't the most willing participant in Ozzy's plans. Hopefully.
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>>379644796
I disagree with the point about patrick's subplot being trash, since at least patrick himself got some pretty good development out of it.

As for people not looking down on rean, well the thing is rean pretty much does that job to himself so the people that know him don't want to beat the dead horse. Even crow had to give him a pep talk before their final duel atop the infernal castle.
I suppose you'd want someone, preferably an adult, to tell him to stand up and be a man about it but he keeps his thoughts to himself and is very professional otherwise, so it's not likely that would happen.

>>379639921
>>379640105
But that's the thing, he doesn't simply talk them down and emphatizes with them. He exploits Jusis' Pride and Machias' diligence to manipulating them into a truce (showing daddies genes perhaps). And that's reasonably different to other protagonists, even kevin whose style is more about deceit.
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>>379646429
The thing is Joachim is indeed strong as fuck. Ao should explain part of the reason why you even succeed against him.
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Is Nayuta no Kiseki any good? I see there's an English patch for it and at this point I've played every available Trails universe game besides Ao no Kiseki which isn't translated yet.
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>>379647487
I'd honestly consider that part of his skill than attribute that to personality. Maybe a bit of both.
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Roughly how much sepith do I get from clearing the Abyss? I heard there's shining pom bosses down there.
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>Monsters that randomly drop quartz
My autism can't help but fight them until when they drop
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>>379649025
That's normal though. Usually if a monster drops a quartz it's better than the ones you can currently get, plus it's free.
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>>379649025
This happened to me with gear drops in the 3rd especially weapons, I stopped no matter how long it took because the weapons/gear was so much more powerful than what was available for a few chapters. The Ninja Tabi and Kitty Suit in particular I was still using on some of my final party.
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I enjoyed 3rd way more than SC
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>>379649730
You are probably retarded
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>>379649730
I enjoyed all 3 games very much but have to agree the 3rd ended up being my favorite of the trilogy especially the OST.
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>>379582640
Wait what.
There's a translation? Fucking where? I thought that shit was never gonna actually happen.
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>>379650004
A crappy leaked one, though you can still make out what's going on.
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>>379650292
I don't know how willing I actually am to play through a slapdash translation for a game in this series of all things.
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>>379650470
It really depends on the desperation levels.
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>>379649730
That's cause 3rd isn't filled to the brim with repeating boss fights and pointless backtracking. Sure, SC made some huge strides in setting up the series' canon in the long run, but 3rd was far more polished as a game.
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>>379650470
Your choice
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Where the heck do you acquire the Orbal Gear?
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>>379650742
It's the 2nd half of Tita's door. You need Agate for it.
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>>379650737
BARRIER, ELIE. GOD.
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>>379650742
go back to moon door 1 with agate.
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>>379650742
Orbal Gear?
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>>379651169
A WEAPON TO SURPASS CASSIUS BRIGHT
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>>379651169
ORBAL GEAR IS NOTHING BUT A LOLI EQUIPPED WALKING DEATH MOBILE
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>>379651169

You knew?
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>>379651238
>Adamantine Shield
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>>379651603
My Cassius fight was Richard dragging Cassius to the edge of the map while Joshua, Kevin, and Olivier just buff and healed.
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>>379649349
I've been fighting this King Penguin for ages but it still won't give me its quartz. I really should have gotten that Luck one from carry over.
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>>379650923
>>379651106
when does the game ever tell you that
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>>379652142
It happens when I checked her door again and the prompt changed.
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>>379652405
The end of part 1 says "continued in part 2" so i checked on the door the first time after it was over and it showed a new rule to enter, the book also gets updated and shows you that. Not sure if you know otherwise.
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>>379648927
The last boss will give you 300 of each. You have to beat the first 3 to get it to spawn. I dont know how much you will get, 500ish I guess depending on how many enemies you fight.
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>>379652142
After doing part 1, revisit the door
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>>379648927
A fuck ton I capped almost all my sepith just farming armor drops.
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>>379652676
I missed it for a long time because I assumed part 2 was another door.
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>>379653020
I should probably do that since I want most of my crew with lvl 5 quartz. Which enemies did you even farm for armor?
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>Overdosing Heavenly Bliss
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>>379653174
These guys most of the boss fights in there drop the same gear as well. There's also the Doppelgangers that drop weapons but I wouldn't waste your time with them even with cheat engine they are horrible to farm. I would make sure to farm Aster+3 and Morality Sword+1 if you don't plan on giving Ries or Kevin a zemurian ore.
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>>379653656
And if you really need to farm weapons skip the Umegae+1, Vorpal Sword+2 and Zigeuner+1 since they can be farmed early in the final dungeon.
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>>379653656
Are Zemurian Ore guaranteed drops from bosses? Who even drops Asters and Morality Swords? I plan on giving the first available one to Richard.
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>>379653656
>I would make sure to farm Aster+3 and Morality Sword+1
Forgot to mention these two weapons drop off the Death Sluggers.
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>>379653851
Yes you only get one the first time you kill a boss for 4 total. I would recommend giving them mostly to physical characters. Richard is an obvious one, would also recommend one for Ries since she's required for the final boss and her infinity sparrows craft helps out a lot there.
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>>379653880
Oh, those goddamn skull chariots.

Thanks for the info. Is the final dungeon even that hard?
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>>379654053
Nah not really I wouldn't even worry about getting everyone super leveled maybe 125 at the minimum. The final dungeon gives insane experience at will put you up to level 140 very quickly.
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>>379640869

I think it seems like they're just going to make Rean's self loathing actually justified by sticking him in a place that full of people that actively hate him and remind him of his fuck up.

He pretty much brought Osborne back into power by opposing the Noble Alliance like he did. Yeah he couldn't have known this, but it wasn't for him spear heading the Anti Alliance movement and taking out most of their support, he basically handed control of the country to Osborne on a platter, and then for good measure helped him finalize the Crossbell takeover (although his options were limited I know)
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>>379654553
>I think it seems like they're just going to make Rean's self loathing actually justified by sticking him in a place that full of people that actively hate him and remind him of his fuck up.
That's why CS3's premise is already so interesting to me because for the first time in his life, Rean's self-loathing issue becomes perfectly justified and has actual room to grow.

>>379654134
Alright, I'll probably get the main team to get to the bottom floor and just farm for gear afterwards.
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>>379600417
>259x194

Oh come the fuck on, you dumb phoneposters can't save one bloody image right. Fuck's sake.
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