is closed liquid cooling a meme /v/? share your experiences whit it

it's fine, built to maintain temp not supercool.
also >>/g/

For a given radiator size it's less efficient than air cooling, because the heat has to be transferred into the added medium of water before it's dissipated via the radiator

An all-air cooler simply transfers the heat from the chip into the radiator, which is attached to the chip

But AIOs can have very large radiators because it doesn't have to fit above the chip

>>379582361
>it's less efficient than air cooling

Air coolers just being jelly lol

>>379582245
>meme
stop

I like it mainly because it's not a huge block of aluminium sitting on top of all my components

it saves a lot of space and doesn't strain your motherboard like some fuckhuge aircooler

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>>379582245
>closed liquid cooling
step it up fampai

>>379582245
Corsair sucks 2bh. Get ARCTIC.

>>379582361
on the other hand the heat dissipation from the chip to the cooling system is much better because it goes straight from metal to liquid, rather than needing large fins, and that's the actualy limiting factor when it comes to cooling. processor chips.

>>379582745
You don't have any idea what you're talking about. Literally, you do not understand elementary school physics.

>>379582245
Less effective than a large high-end air cooler, but with a lower noise ratio. I think that's the biggest appeal for me.

You only geht AIOs for the looks.
Custom water cooling solutions are the besteht performance wise.

>>379582745

Do you even know what a radiator is?

>>379582245
it's a must have for overclockers

The pumps tend to be loud at least in my experience.

luquid never dries out? redpill me on meme liquid coolers

I bought a corsair H115. Love it.

My CPU never goes over 30'c, even when emulating BOTW or XCX.

and its so fucking quiet I never hear it.

>>379582245
All I can tell you is that it worked better than the shitty stock fan that came with my cpu.

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if i don't care what my computer case looks like and i will have headphones on my ears all the time, is there any reason not to get an air cooler?

>>379582873
The limiting factor is processor temperature. Heat must be conducted through the chip, though the thermal paste, through the radiator contact.

Heat conduction coefficient from metal to air is terrible, which is why radiators need to be so big and have fans. In an air cooled system, that means heat must travel though the fins before reaching the air. However, in an liquid cooled system, the conductive coeficcient from metal to liquid is much better so you can transfer more heat from the chip to the radiator contact.
The water cooled system has an overall worse heat conduction coefficient (which is why it neems bigger radiators that contact with the air), but has a better local conduction coefficient.

tl;dr You can transfer more heat with a water cooled system because increasing the size of air cooled radiators reduces their efficiency dramatically.

Why not use liquid nitrogen cooling?

>>379582643
I see a whole lot of something with a while lot of nothing inside of it. Wtf?

>>379584529
Why not build a case out of pure diamond, the hardest metal known to man?

>>379584442
want to know this too

>>379584529
already done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmSBaizEqkk

>>379582245
>>379582361
So they dont actively cool the water? Whats the fucking point then?

>>379582245
>Core i5-2500k with a big fucking heatsink
>Share household with a chainsmoker and two animals, dust and dander out the ass even with daily vacuuming
>big fucking heatsink with thin vents gets ton of dust caught in it, no amount of cleaning or canned duster can clear it out
>CPU overheats with minimal load, games start to noticeably run like shit after it goes above 65°
>PC shuts down on its own as a preventative measure at 85° which it reaches easily
>Install Cooler Master Seidon 120m
>CPU doesn't go above 40° even under heavy load
>Game performance has improved markedly since the CPU isn't shitting itself
>Small single fan is quiet as fuck
>Haven't had to worry about dust since, maintenance free
>Shits been great for two years

>>379584442
there is no reason to not get an air cooler. they're significantly cheaper, more reliable and won't break and spread coolant all over your hardware. i've had a 212 evo for 3 years now and it was bottom of the barrel trash back then and still is but it was $20 and still keeps my 4.4ghz 4690k in the 60's under a full gaming load. it's still quieter than the my case fans and way quieter than my gpu when i'm gaming. if i wanted maximum cooling i can turn up the fan curve from 65% at 60C to 70% or 80% and lower the temps to like the 40's under load.

noctua NH-15 is quieter than any AIO and cools about as well as a 280mm AIO (pretty huge)

>tfw want to get an AIO liquid cooler but too scared of leaks
might get a fuck hueg noctua nh-d15 instead desu, not bothered about aesthetics, just want low temps

No, because we're at like fucking 14nm and not using Sandy Vagina processors anymore.
And the die size is getting smaller.

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>>379585146
okay thanks anon

>>379582245
Don't get those small shits, they're literally a waste of money. Go all the way or just do normal cooling

>>379584442
Dissembling and assembly is a bitch. Owned a Megahalems and a Ptanteks TCP14. I found out during my internship that half of all the causes of a PC/laptop not turning on only need the RAMs to be cleaned and reseated and guess what, big bulky heatsinks block the DIMM slots.

>>379584697
>the hardest metal known to man?
Don't you mean Marines?

>>379585623
or you can just put the fan on the opposite side as a pull config and have the same cooling ability as it in a push config. i changed my fan around and replaced my thermal paste the other day when i upgraded to 16gb ram. took 10 mins in total.

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>>379582245
>not supporting Austrian metallurgy industry

>>379584902
>Whats the fucking point then?
This right here:
>>379582361
>But AIOs can have very large radiators because it doesn't have to fit above the chip

A standard setup uses a fan to draw air through a heatsink, attached directly to the CPU. With liquid cooling, the CPU heats up the waterblock, heat is transfered to the liquid (water), the liquid is pumped to the radiator, and fans on the radiator transmit air through the radiator. The difference between these setups is whether you have heat being exchanged with the cooler environment (air) right above the CPU in the middle of the case, or using a liquid to have the heat exchange happen at a radiator at the edge of your case.

Depending on your setup, switching to liquid cooling may drastically improve your computer's operating temperatures. On the other hand, cases with efficient airflow may already have good temperatures with standard air cooling, and you'll end up paying hundreds of dollars for a liquid-cooling setup that barely makes a difference. Likewise, you could just spend $15-$40 on buying a case fan that greatly improves airflow and thus cooling potential, instead of spending much more on a liquid cooling setup. You could also spend that money on upgrading to a new CPU, GPU, or PSU, that are more efficient for the same amount of work and generate less heat in the first place.

>>379585953
Explain

>>379582245
Closed requires 100 dollars just to get the same cooling as 50 dollars of air. Source: fell for it like a retard.

>>379585953
which cooler?

>>379585958
Hi Linus.
Noctua is great, but they have to stop using that retarded color.

Giant air coolers are the bigger meme

I bought the cooler from OP's pic. Discovered the sound of the water being pumped was louder than my Noctua running at full load and didn't really deliver better temps. Water cooling is a sinister meme.

>>379584902
You don't know shit about phsysics, do you?

>>379586363
You're the bigger meme.

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>>379586046
http://www.overclock.net/t/1199135/hyper-212-testing-push-vs-pull-vs-push-pull-also-horizontal-vs-vertical-positioning

it's changing the fan direction so instead of blowing air through the heatsink it pulls air through the heatsink. it has the same cooling ability as the regular push config.

>>379586152
hyper 212 evo. pic related. you should be able to do this with any cooler though, i mean, if a cheap ass $20 cooler has the ability to let you unscrew the cooler, flip it, screw it back and then re-attach it on the heatsink then an expensive one should too.

(image was taken before i added the ram, btw).

>>379586589
How do you even run into RAM compatibility problems with a 212? Do you have one of those 3 meters tall ricer kits?

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>>379586589
>212 babby
>not doing push pull with those sweet Blademasters

This is the kind of problem the big boys are having.But then again, Maybe i'll stop being a tryhard and just get a 212.

>>379586676
i have corsair vengeance ram. it comes with some fat heat spreader

My Corsair liquid cooler fucking killed itself in less than a year, and I was so furious I fucking dumped that shit instead of replacing it. I vote for meme.

>>379584687
its filled with oil

>>379586796
So do I, never had a problem with my old Noctua NH-U12P in push-pull.
And with the D15 I just needed to put the first fan about 2 cm higher.

>>379586373
Closed loop coolers are a meme. They cost a premium and don't deliver performance to match the price.

>>379586767
you can do the same with the bigger coolers. just swap the fans round. make sure you don't do something retarded like simply putting the fan on the otherside without actually flipping it around so it ejects air rather than pushing the air. you'll have problems if you do that.

>>379587006
the 212 evo is slightly more low profile i think, as in the actual heatsink is smaller so you can't really raise the fan much higher. either way, testing has shown a push/pull config doesn't fair any better than a sole pull or push config on a 212 evo.

I have a hyper 121x on my i5 4690k@4,4 ghz and I don't really see why I'd ever need something more performant, it keeps the cpu perfectly cool

>>379587337
>hyper 121x
212x that is

Water cooling might be worth it if you use it to cool CPU, GPU, and maybe the chipset in one system. Otherwise somewhat pointless.

>>379586947

How does the PSU fan spin?

>>379584776
>Champion Overclocker

>>379582245
>>379585958

Get a decent case and a Noctua cooler and fuck off.

/thread

can someone explain if the liquid in closed cooler ever runs out? retard here so pls explain

>>379584529
Liquid helium has better thermal capacity

>>379589697
No, closed loop means the fluid's supposed to circulate in there for the units lifespan.

>>379585098
shutting off at 85c
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
95c at load and no problems
thanks core2 quad

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>>379582245
I want a water cooler but my gaming room gets to freezing point in the nights at winter and I worry the whole thing will rupture

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>>379593387
I lower my fans rpm in winter so my PC heats up the room.

>>379591469
WTF hows that even possible?

never ever

just get a noctua

In my opinion when it comes to watercooling go custom loop or don't bother.

Most AiO barely outperform even cheap air coolers and they add another point of failure.

>>379594058
It's a closed system. Very little coolant evaporates or leaks out. The cheapass pumps are liable to die before the coolant does.

>>379593387
Use anti-freeze :^)

>>379594489
I know you're joking but you actually can use antifreeze in a loop, with a few caveats.

It's more viscous, has a lower specific heat, is poisonous and requires dilution. On the other hand it's inherently anti microbial and anti corrosive.

>>379594346
how long is usually the lifespan of the pumps?

>>379594763
Depends on the manufacturer. I've seen AiO pumps last anywhere from 6 months to 3 years. But my loop is custom, so if my pump fails I can replace it.

Watercooling is an expensive meme for enthusiasts like me.

>>379585958
these huge ugly pieces of shit is why i have a closed loop cooler.

>>379594763
Had a corsair closed system and I eventually replaced it but the pump still worked just fine after 6 years. Was heavily dust abused so presumably I got lucky but nothing in that build ever broke or got damaged from the dust.

CPU triple fan asetek rebrand has been running for 2 years. meanwhile my 980 ti hybrid(also asetek rebrand) the cooler has died 3 times now one of them lasted less then a week.

>>379586589
Ok but you can't make the air take that right angled turn. It's just going to sit there cooking your RAM.

>>379587765
Just like in air but slower.

>>379596998
it's an intake fan. i also have 2 intake fans on the front.

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>>379585146

honesty this

>>379593829
That would make it heat up your room slower than turning them up.

there's no reason to get anything more powerful than a hyper 212 and slapping 2 reputable fans on it.

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>>379599234

to add to this, my cooler is noctua beefcake

people just go liquid for aesthetics

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>He doesn't watercool

>>379582245
280mm ones are perfect for m/iATX GPU cooling

>>379582245
I have that exact model. It's alright so far. I'm sort of expecting it to break though, because it seems a bit flimsy. But my biggest issue is my gpu, which sits at 64°C on idle but practically melts during any load.

>>379599964
Yeah, next upgrade I may get a closed loop just for GPU temp management.

I also like my PC to be quiet and right now it just isn't, especially under load.

>>379594716
No you can't. Antifreeze will eat away at the pumps/resovoir gasket and will cause a leak

I have an i80 gt or whatever the fuck it's called. It does the job well enough. I swapped the fans with some noctuas and they're pretty quiet. But that fucking water pump is so god damn annoying. Its not insanely loud, It's the only thing I hear from my system.

>>379599334
CPU doesn't get hot enough to heat up the room otherwise.
If I turn them up I would never go past 40°C.

I push it safely to 80°C by executing Star Citizen.

>>379600810
That's why he said diluted, dumbass.

>>379582245
Go air or open looped

I have closed loop and it's okay, but having to replace the water makes me wish I went some other method

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>>379602764

>having to replace water

Holy shit dude