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Final Fantasy XIV: STORMBLOOD

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What's more complex? Level 50 or Level 70 rotations?
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>>379561141
ARR Dragoon was boring as fuck, I wish I had never bought into the AF gear meme.
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>>379561141
50 had a lot of boring classes, BRD was good 50 and is going to be hella fun and mobile again with 70. God I can't fucking wait for stormblood.
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>>379555330
>potential to be unbalanced and poor illusion of choice

Trying to make it too balanced is what makes it boring in the first place. If you just make it so its """balanced""" then every class ends up doing the same shit which is the ACTUAL delusion of choice and Its pretty much what we're headed too. If YoshiP wasn't so afraid of adding things that made certain classes more useful than others in all kinds of content, we wouldn't be having this problem and we'd still have interesting debuffs and shit like making use out of binds, heavy, and malady.

Dungeons being a fucking hallway with trash is also another problem.

The game can be fast-paced, rotation-based, and mechanics-heavy without having to take off all the depth.

I'm not saying that guy is playing right for not wanting to equip his jobstone but he isn't hurting anyone because of it, hes not running current savage on it either, not that any group would seriously take him.
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>>379561967
I think its more the fact that he's in such an obscenely small minority that there is no need to cater to people like him whatsoever
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>>379561141
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>completed my 3rd anima
>still a week to go
wat do
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>>379562532
stop playing idiot
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>>379562335
>The FFXI playerbase is a small minority

If you assume at least half the players who played XI are playing 14 thats at least two entire servers worth of people. I wouldn't call that a minority or something to ignore. Yoshida solves it by just saying "lol its a different kind of game" and not delivering any of his promises.

Like I said in my post, the game doesn't have to be any different than it already is, my suggestions only add more depth to what is already something very shallow and completely based of muscle memory, and Yoshida actually wants to make it MORE shallow.
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I miss ARR rotations. In SB rotations will feel like some shitty minigame.

>>379561347
And "MNK but slower" is fun?
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>>379562532
erp
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>>379562584
Not only FFXI players want this stuff, anyone who played a MMORPG before WoW will probably want it.

Hell I'm from RO and the idea of having zero customization at all bothers me. Is this a fucking RPG or some random action game?
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>your FC loves lalas
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>>379562370
There a samurai one for this yet?
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>>379562812
わーい !
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>>379562606
I wouldn't know. I haven't played SB monk yet.
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>>379562865
Rotate 3 Sen combos > Kaiten + Midare
If Hagakure is up then use that instead of Kaiten + Midare and do 3 Shinten between GCD.
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>>379562584
sounds like a whole lot of baseless assumptions.
the fact that you don't see anyone clammering to save CC skills seems pretty indicative of the fact that no one gives a fuck about them and would rather they went the way of the dodo.
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>We still don't get red eyes
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>>379563189
This is FFXIV's playerbase

>something is less than optimal?
>REMOVE IT
>something dispenses free, great rewards for no effort?
>BEST FEATURE EVER
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addons when?
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>>379562580
I already took a 2 month break before coming back recently. Too hyped not to play.
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>>379562727
>zero customization
you glamor your gear, that's how you customize
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>>379563309
So people who know how to make rational choices?
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>>379563456
Even the glamour customization suck
1 color
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>>379563309
>I want to intentionally play poorly
go away forever
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>>379563309
>YOU DONT PAY MY SUB I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PLAY LIKE SHIT AND SLOW EVERYONE ELSE DOWN
This game isn't what you want it to be. Get over it.
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>>379563510
>>379563534
>>379563620
"Gimme" generation right here folks
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>>379563189
I'm not saying the cross class skills need to stay, but the Role Actions aren't any better.

They removed something with a slight amount of customization and also something that gave slight advantages for being a certain class (like AST not having E4E for example or when Protect gave Shell only as a WHM) and removed it for something that will basically be the same fucking thing, but without ANY CHOICE whatsoever.

EVERYONE will use the same fucking role actions. Instead of adding more depth, they took it away and gave you something braindead.

Theres also the fact that Yoshida has kept pretty much none of his 1.0 promises to all the Legacy players and did gross and stupid shit like making Scholar into a fucking fairy summoner healer when it would have been a better fit as a sage-like DPS and Summoner not having any actual summons till now.
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>>379563309
This is the healer that doesn't DPS
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>>379563645
>t-t-t-t-those d-d-damn k-k-k-kids!!
lmfao
quit grandpa
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>>379563663
Are you insane? Role actions have way more customization and thought required than ARR's crossclass ever did.
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wait
is it possible to use two mudra at the same time as ninja? i keep noticing it and at first i thought i was retarded, but for some reason i can cast raiton and shuriken at the same time

is this a thing im missing?
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>stormblood will force blizzard to announce the new wow expansion early
lol
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>>379563663
>EVERYONE will use the same fucking role actions. Instead of adding more depth, they took it away and gave you something braindead.
But don't you see! EVERYONE used the same fucking CC skills! In terms of how it will impact your gameplay, its the same fucking system but now you don't have to level up DRG to be a good MCH and so on.
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>>379563750
Packet loss.
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>>379563750
sounds like you're lagging like a little bitch
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As a 37 tank is it preferred, in order to somewhat optimally gain exp, to spam, DF, fates or quests?
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>>379563829
>>379563815
so then im not actually using them both? which takes priority?
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>>379563750
Sounds like you are a humen bean and not a west coast commie subhuman.
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>>379561141
nothing can be as brain dead as 2.0 rotations.
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>>379563882
Spam tank dungeons. However, if this is your highest level character you need to be keeping up with the Main Scenario Quests as well, as they unlock most of the content in the game.
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>>379563904
The later one, so most likely Raiton.
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>>379563767
>the new wow raid comes out on the exact same day as the SB release.
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Reminder this is what you ERP with.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj_zmTsi2pg&t=313s
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>>379563957
>It was ready since 3.56
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>>379563725
>Role actions have way more customization than crossclass

This must be bait.
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>>379563957
oh wow a whole raid

however will a full expansion ever compete
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>>379563286
Fucking bullshit to be honest. They didn't even update the darkside effect at least a little.
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>>379563782
You're right, but you're forgetting the fact that certain classes under the same role had access to CC that other classes didn't, that had potential that was never built on.
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>>379564061
Cleric Stance is gone so this is inaccurate
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>>379564132
It's not gone it's just a damage buff now. Stop spreading misinformation you dumb shit
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>>379564132
Cleric Stance isn't gone. It was turned into a damage buff.
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>>379563957
A raid that Blizzard has held ransom for 3 months to try and compete with XIV. I actually feel bad for the WoW players.
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>>379563957
>>379564021
>>379564069
does anyone actually play both?
legion felt like a full time job from what little I played of it at launch
the leggo grind, the AP grind, the extra leggo grind because your first X leggos were shitty, the rest of the AP grind that never ends
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>Alphinaud is always with us
>Estinien is coming back
It will be like travelling with the old gang again except for Alisaie being a poor replacement for Ysayle.
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>>379563689
>tfw less pleasant grandpas with inferior glamours give you a bad name
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>>379562370
This looks too hard
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>>379564132
wtf nigger, you stupid or something?
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>>379564296
>priority system is too hard for the average FFXIV player

Why am I not surprised
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>>379564238
Shit I hope we get an /Adventuring Party/ in Stormblood like we got in 3.0

>Nero
>Alisae
>Yigiri

make it fucking happen
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>"I don't dps so that I can focus on healing. You don't pay my sub."
>"I have to heal you now? Git gud and do mechanics."

Is there anybody more whiny and entitled than people that play healers?
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>>379564238
Alphy had like no screen time in the release trailer so Alisaie is probably his replacement for this expansion while Alphy is busy being the ambassador for the Scions in Eorzea
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>>379564061
I guess they fixed surecast never being used making it 100% worthless.
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>>379564356
Priority and rotations are boring. They should have just made FFXIV into a lobby based action game like Phantasy Star Online. Maybe then they focus on making better instances and interesting loot instead of more bland open world garbage and weekly grind bullshit.
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>alphinaud's gay level for estinien suddenly multiplies after he nothin personnel'd vidofnir in falcon's nest
hmmm

>>379564238
i'd rather travel with moghan again instead of ysayle or alisayle
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>>379564218
I went back to WoW for a bit during the Legion launch and felt the same. Also fuck you if at launch you decided to play a different class because you had the artifact grind to look forward to all over again not to mention the order hall time gating missions and shit.
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>>379564437
People who pay their sub.
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>>379564212
>>379564306
I was misinformed and didn't really care to pay attention further
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>>379564437
People like that should get paired with dps who only spam 1 button, or better yet, only auto-attack and tank who does nothing except getting bare minimum aggro.
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>>379564061
Cleric stance feels like such a shitty pick. A lot like Mercy Stroke but worse because I'd rather take Rescue so I can kill people.
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>>379564443
I'm alright with that, Alisaie needs more screentime since most newer people who joined during HW and such probably never did Coils.
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>>379564396
From what we've seen so far, it looks like the party is less static than in Heavensward, with the main core comprising of Ysale and the twins.

Think FF6 with the rotating party members.
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>>379564546
>since most newer people who joined during HW and such probably never did Coils.
>tfw this is me
Should I go back and do coils for the story lads
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>>379561141
>wasting a GCD on Fracture
Hmmmmm?
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>>379564476
It's now only about 80% worthless. The other 20% of the time being immune to cc might let you cheese stuff.
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>>379564524
well in 7 days they're gonna get paired with a RDM who only casts Vercure
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>>379564597
Will he come back for the HW questline?
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>>379564478
it's not even open world yet and it's already barren as fuck with faggots saying it should be even bigger. fuck open world with a rake

instance design in this game is shot in the foot with the way the rest of the game is designed:
- line of sight breaking casts
- cast times at all
- the jump action being used for fucking nothing
so enjoy the linear hallways and round/square arenas
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>all those classic FFVI enemies in the Stormblood trailer
My dick, you Wowfugees don't deserve this
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>>379561141
I need Red Mage gameplay videos
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>>379561141
>Alisae the arcanist summons a fucking aether sword during the WoD fight
>I had hope in the back of my mind that either we were getting a new arcanist job (tank) or a sword-based Ravana-egi for close quarters combat
>instead we get nerfs and more bahamut shit
Being smn main is suffering. Rdm time
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>>379561141
lolfracture. what dumb nigger made this rotation guide.
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>>379564478
Phantasy star online had more depth than this game because it wasn't balanced.

There was a reason to take cast versions of classes over humans and vice versa. All the forces specialized in different spells and it made a difference.
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>>379564682
I doubt it, since he was dead before we ever met "him", and what we did meet was just our darkside acting up. Even if he did come back, he'd probably not look like the Frey we knew.
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>>379564748
>w-why is my summoner focused around summoning now?! where are my dots?! ;_;
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>>379564597
you can do the whole thing in 2 hours ignoring how long it takes to make the party unsync
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>>379564437
SMN mains.

>>379564748
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>>379564767
It's probably someone being retarded, but if this was made very very very early in ARR's lifespan, Fracture actually was used on Dragoon

Gold star to anyone who remembers why
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>>379564478
>>379564776
>they should've just made ffxiv into a clone of this game
JUST GO PLAY THAT GAME THEN
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>>379564748
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>Press the 2 key
>Watch as your character does something

Why do people like this gameplay? Why cant MMOs have good combat?
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>>379564776
I liked playing as a Fomar because I could cast high level spells while regenerating TP with my double saber at melee range. I also could equip weapons during combat to augment my spells (demonic fork = more potent megid, lighting rod = stronger zonde)
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>>379564887
I don't. I started playing in 2.3

Was it because asinine positional requirement and how certain oGCD didnd't line up?
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0% or 100% bust
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Stormblood storyline party:
Alisae
Lyse
Yugiri
Estinien

Please make it happen Yoshi
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>>379564792
>he'd probably not look like the Frey we knew
us but in AF gear?
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>>379564964
i like manual dodging and dances. in this game you have to move the FUCK out of the way to dodge instead of *evades ur attack with my iframe* pshhh nothin personnel or just eating unavoidable attacks in the face like a bitch like in other games
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>>379564964
>Press a button on the controller
>Watch as your character does something
Why do people like this gameplay? Why can't [any videogame ever] have good combat?

This is how dumb you sound.
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>>379565049
I feel like we should just let estinien rest for a while. He's been through a lot. Like, probably more than most other characters in the game. Dudes going to have another mental break.
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>>379564964
Blade and Soul and Black Desert tried and look how those turned out
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>>379564964

>Press the B button
>Watch as your character does something

Why do people like this gameplay? Why can't platformers have good combat?
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>>379564964
>tfw no game with FFXIV's world but actually open and with shit to do,TERA's combat and RO's customisation.
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>>379565162
We already saw him in the trailer, so he's going to show up and help.
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>home internet connection doesn't get sorted til the 21st
>miss out on primal extreme fights because I'm an aethercuck
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>>379564840
SMNs are the whiniest cunts. They should rip the dot set into a different class (Cancerer) and rework Summoner completely because why the fuck would a Summoner not be about summoning?
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>>379564061
I wonder if Cleric Stance will even be worth it. 5% for 15 seconds on a cooldown like that seems like a waste.

Scholar may be able to trade out Lucid Dream for Eye for an Eye, but we'll have to see how they play with the increased MP costs. AST and WHM will still need it for sure.

One healer needs to bring Protect, and the other can ignore it.

Same with Esuna, but in most fights it can be ignored completely by both.
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>>379565098
Probably, either way I'm going to be keeping an eye out in the 60-70 DRK quests for an NPC who looks suspiciously similar to my character. I think it'd be neat as FUCK if they had your darkside just lurking around in the background of quest cutscenes, not necessarily being pointed out or having any interraction with the circumstances of the quest, just slightly out of frame so that we don't forget about him.
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>>379564898
My Wii died
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>>379565256
Worth it in fights that have short gaps for DPS time that sync up with the cooldown so that it's a straight up 5% increase instead of the 0.whatever% it will be with that cooldown. Very specific situation so it's unlikely.
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>>379565192
>open and with shit to do
Nice dream. If you want to have shit to do and actual level design, don't make it open because open implies stretches and stretches of "pressing the forward button" while you ogle at the pretty sights.
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>>379565162

Who will be the obligatory man in the party?

Thancred a shit.
Gosestsu is too old man bara

Could always be Nero I guess.
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>>379564437
>Join 60 dungeon as healer
>Both DPS/Tank are in absolute shit, barely min ilvl vendor gear
>I'm the bad guys for not DPS'ing

Look, there's zero fucking excuse to still have some of the gear these people have. if they can't even put in a a minimal amount of effort to get non shit gear why should I fucking DPS too?
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im tanking and posting on 4 chan at the same time right now.
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>>379565307
emulate it you dip

or get on ephinea
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>>379565004
No, it was because at launch, you couldn't overwrite your DoTs with weaker versions of your own DoTs. So if you'd just done Chaos Thrust and Phlebotomize with Blood for Blood up, you wouldn't be able to reapply them without BfB up unless they actually completely fell off naturally first.

So if you followed your rotation naturally, you'd end up with a bunch of dead-end DoTs where you'd hit Chaos Thrust and Phlebotomize at 1-2 seconds left on their timers, but the only damage you'd get would be from the initial hit, and the BfB DoTs would just wear off without ever applying your new set.

You'd use Fracture to space things out by a GCD so that your DoTs would definitely fall off before you tried to reapply them.
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>>379565390
You can see Gosetsu with the group when they go to the Azim Steppe.
But he's going to be a traitor working for Yotsuyu
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Name the best player of each job.
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>>379565390
Prince-kun.
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>>379565307
>Not Episode III
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>>379565049
>bland whores party
i'd sooner have hildibrand in place of them. not that it's even a negative
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>>379565390
>Could always be Nero I guess.
Yoshi would never be that good to us. We can only dream.
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>>379565182
But when I hit the attack button in any other game the character attacks. Its you doing it, there is no input delay. In a MMO you're just telling the character to do a little delayed animation. Its not even really you doing anything
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>>379565390
Greg
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>>379565464
me, all of them
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>>379565481
>le silly faces man XD
He's so random!!! XD I love when Godbert gets in his underwear!! LMAO
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should I replace the fem hyur in my squadron with a fem aura Y/N
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>>379565292
Man beating Throdan as a DRK felt so goddamn right and satisfying
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>>379565416
>No, it was because at launch, you couldn't overwrite your DoTs with weaker versions of your own DoTs.
Didn't know that was a thing. Did it get fixed in 2.1 or sooner?
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>Gosetsu hails from weebland
>Still talks in succor reddit speak
How does this hack get away with it?
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>>379565618
It might have been sooner than 2.1, but if not it was definitely fixed by then, yeah.
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>>379565559
just because HW Hildy was trash doesn't mean it was always this way
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>>379565582
No way fag, she is the only middie recruit, the other femhyurs are all trannylanders.
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>>379565749
ARR was exactly the same fucking way as soon as Godbert showed up. 1.0 Hildibrand was the only perfect questline.
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The XIV community deserves so much better than MrFatty and his crew.

>Regurgitates the meta and is partly responsible for the "Skip soar" shit.
>Deflects and won't take responsibility.

>Laughs at "delete job" jokes then says they don't like people acting like that.

>Cries about Machinist changes then the next week calls people crybabies for not being happy with SB WHM
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>>379565479
got it
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>>379565464
my dick
your mom
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>>379565816
Nice.

Can you actually play Episode 3 online via any sort of private server these days? I've still got my GameCube BBA and keyboard and everything.
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>>379565798
Ethys is cool at least
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>>379565464
literally me
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>>379565660
Koji was a mistake
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>>379565964
how much does lving bot cost per job?
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>>379565787
the two Gilgamesh trials were GOAT
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>>379565963
>can't even read off lore passages right
>has to inject his shitty headcanon theories into everything
He's the Vaatividya of XIV
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>>379565660
Get away with what?
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>>379565798

Considering how /v/ and the fucking wanna-be bigshots parrot anything he says/does as gospel because they're so fucking autistic they can't think for themselves I'd say that Mr. Happy is exactly the content creator this community deserves and nothing better.
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>>379566014
$5 per job
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>>379565660
>Verily we must needs hit up the sushi bar
KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>379566105
hmm pretty cheap, i'll take it. Fuck getting cucked to play the whole day for 2 lvs
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>That awesome feel when a healer decide to pocket you and you make a whole alliance focus your ass instead of the big crystal
I will really fucking miss those times in Stormblood...
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>>379566154
How should he be talking? Where would he have picked up an entirely unrelated dialect of the local language that also bypasses the echo?
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>>379565660
>Hails from Eorzfrica.
>Speaks Japanese.

>Comes from Eorzasia
>Speaks Japanese.

>Comes from random location.
>Kanzai ben.


How do these hacks get away with this?
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>>379566298
Is that the Japanese version? Who uses Kansai?
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>>379565660
Yeah dude lets give the characters a racist sounding japanese accent his bosses would LOVE that
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>>379565798
>and is partly responsible for the "Skip soar" shit.
the fuck?
he says specifically in his video that doing soar isn't a big deal
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>>379566267
Fuck if I know I just wanted to make a joke
>>
Red Mage or Samurai?
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>>379566424
Ofc there's someone in the game that speaks kanzai ben just as it's guaranteed that there are annoying fucks that add stupid shit to the end of their sentences.
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>>379566432
>HURR IT'S RACIST WHEN WHITE PEOPLE DO BAD JAPANESE ACCENTS BUT JAPS USING ENGRISH ALL THE TIME IS FINE

You are a fucking idiot
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>>379566560
Red mage
Samurai was trash since the first cameo quest chain they appeared in
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>>379566260
>1 death
>only 14 assists
Get gud you not a bad performance at all, buddy.
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>>379566105
5 bucks for a bot to level your job from 1-60? shit that actually sounds really tempting, I wanted to get a PLD
>paying money to not play the game though
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>>379566495
Do RPers speak needsmustese? I hope so, because then someone will unironically use that line.
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>>379564218

I play both, and raid in a 12/hr a week guild. I can't raid on 14 because of it, but I enjoy both games.

I do an hour of WQs a day and otherwise don't log in much except to raid, I've been doing this for many months now and have never felt like I was behind on my character progress.
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>>379566647
Very, very few of them
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>>379566704
My disappointment is boundless.
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Or is there a better alternative than Fraps?
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>>379566619
>muh racism against white people

/pol/cucks please go
>>
>>379566792
Most RPers don't know a single fucking thing about the world and just speak contemporary English. It's pretty fucking disappointing
>>
>>379566841
OBS
Shadowplay.

I use Shadowplay, 5 mins video is around 1.5 GB on average.
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>>379566856
English speaking people doing bad japanese accents isn't racist, Japanese people doing bad English accents isn't racist. You just hate white people you sad racist faggot
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>>379565307
The optimal party comp was RAcast, RAcast, RAcast, FOnewearl.

Everything else was just parking
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>>379561141
>Fracture ever
>No Spineshatter dive
>No leg sweep
What the fuck am I looking at?
>>
>>379565464
I'm the BEST Dragoon in the best server of Malboro.
If you're on Aether's Party Finder you may find me saying that.
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>>379567008
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>Tfw you bend with the wind but your boner stands tall and breaks.
>>
>HW
>about DRG and shit
>involved Estienien
>SB
>about MNK and shit
>no Widargelt in sight
>yet Oboro is present
>and so is Estinien
>>
>>379566260
>try to pocket heal someone
>they immediately blow everything on me
just
>>
>cards are now weighted so balance has a 1/12 chance of being drawn

FUCKING YOSHIDA
>>
>>379566260
Fucking Freelance killed Maelstrom. Forgetting to turn on Frontline Freelance as a Maelstrom is a guaranteed loss.
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>>379567392
I feel like mnks got cucked out of their own expansion.
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>>379567308
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>>379567392
>NINs cucking MNKs out of their own expansion
how's that chakra building going

but seriously where the fuck is Widargelt,
isn't he the secret heir to the Ala Mhigan throne
>>
>>379566560
heal/buff/raise slut with almost no MP recovery options vs nuclear bomb potencies
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>>379567392
>SB reveal
>OH SHIT ALA MHIGO AND MONK WoL
>MONK TIME BABY
then
>no Widargelt in sight
>no new attacks for monk
>Samurai takes your gear
>potency nerf
>Doma
>Ala Mhigans angry at empire all die to summon a primal....of a Doman myth? lol wtf

just slam the door on the cuckshed
>>
>>379567528
4.1-4.3 storyline please look forward to it
>>
>>379567471
>You'll still draw ewer/spire 99% of the time
>>
>>379567501
>>379567528
I'll never forget the week following the live letter with all the MNKs running rampant shitting on NIN
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>>379564603
Pretty sure that's before 2.3 I think, shit was something else.
>>
>>379566560
Samurai for big dick
Red Mage if you like casting
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>>379567528
I mean, he wants to rebuild the fist of Rhalgr so maybe he's still tied to the job quests
>>
>>379563510
>>379563534
>>379563620
>>379563676
Why even play the game if you want to be rewarded for nothing?
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>have to use a compass and explore the entire map to find all the aether currents before I can fly
What's the fucking point?
>>
>>379568140

git gud
>>
>FFXII and Tactics have God tier localisation
>Koji will be handling it with his 8th grade idea of what old English sounds like
This expansion is already another heavensflop
>>
We're getting preliminary patch notes later today, right?
>>
>>379568140
So you can enjoy the sights

Flying was a mistake
>>
>>379568140
making you explore the zone on foot before you get to just zoom over it

you also have to complete the MSQ in that zone
>>
>>379568225
Nope.
>>
>>379568210
Meant to say the Ivalice raid but you get the idea.
>>
>>379568140
So you can't complain there's no reason to ever explore on the ground.
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>>379568140
So that you have to have to interact with the area to make it feel less like a giant mass of fucking nothin--- oh wait, it still is.

>>379568229
>flying was a mistake
>wanting to WALK through those shitfests of an empty stadium
>>
>rdm just have one mp revocery skill
>everything cost huge amounts of mp

Can they atleast recover magic with time?
>>
I just beat Alexander 12 Savage. But I am unable to do over 2500 dps as DRG. Any tips?
>>
>Hey guys! With the HW expansion we'll also be introducing flying mounts that only work on HW maps so you can traverse the area faster and with ease but before you get that luxury you gotta haul ass on foot and grab dem aether currents.
This is how I know the swimming in SB is going to be fucking horrendous in it's own way.
>>
>>379568556
More Balance
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>>379568571
>SB releases
>gotta grab water currents before you can swim
I mean I get that you have learn how to swim before you can swim but come the fuck on.
>>
>>379568493
If you watch gameplay vids from lik VeriMerri and whatever you see they pretty much break even when it comes to mp with natural ticks and the time you spend in melee. If you use Lucid Dreaming on cooldown you shouldn't ever have MP troubles unless you rezzed half your party
>>
>>379568595
I was just in a party where the highest DPS was +3000, and I was still ties with a WAR for 4th place with 2.5k dps
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>>379568571
>complaining about something that takes very little time in the long run
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What are you eating when the expansion happens?

Pizza + redbulls here
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>>379568710
What's the clear time?
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>>379568710
>war
>doing over 2k dps

stop lying
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>>379568556
Balance.
>>
>>379568751

Sliced watermelon, iced mint tea
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>>379568710
Ask for more pad Balance
Ask to not do Time gate
>DPS tied with WAR
Something is wrong here.
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>>379568872
faggot
>>
>preordered stormblood
>no early access code in my email

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>379568751
chinese food and a bunch of this
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>>379568997
>preordered SB
>got early access code 5 minutes later
>>
>>379568783
>>379568836
>Clear Time
We didn't clear with that party, but we got to timegates, and the WAR was consistently at 2.5k/close to what I was doing.
>>
>>379569007
shit yea i love tater tots
>>
>>379568751
WATER WITH WATER FOR ME.
>>
>>379568997

can take up to 48 hours
>>
>>379569076
those are clearly hashbrowns
>>
>>379568751
Probably chicken breast with rice.
>>
>>379564584
That would be swell. I want to see more of the side characters getting some development throughout the game instead of in 1 or 2 patches. I really want more of Alisae in particular since we have had so much of Alphinaud already.
>>
>>379564857
>implying people in PF want to wait around for people to do story

I never got to enjoy the story for the same reasons...now I just feel bad.
>>
>>379569040
>>379569137

I'm talking about the pre-order code
it literally says in the email "below you will find..." and then there's just 3 blank spaces where I was expecting a code, and then the instructions to link it to your account
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>>379569246
Find some friends to do it with, then.
>>
>>379569007
Fuck is the papa johns code thing for FFXIV still going on? I want some tendies and garlic knots
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>>379567663
It's unfair how ninjas position in the raid has been set in stone ever since the job came out. And now they're literally even stronger.
At the same time samurai takes monks job and does it ten times better.
There's a limit to how much they can shit on one job you know?
>>
>>379569071
Well, the duration from start of 2nd phase to timegates isn't that long, so if WAR got lucky he -might- stay pretty close to some dps.

Did you perform your opener again at the start?
>>
>>379569305
I'd have to do it on an alt, not gonna lie and say that it isn't tempting tho.
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>>379569265
Did you get something like this?
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>>379564964
Open eyes, see stuff. Wow bullshit only casuals could like seeing things before running into them.
>>
>>379569382
i'm not sure nin is 100% guaranteed anymore since drg/brd is as strong as ever, and if sam is as good as people are saying then there might be a bit more variety in the melee slots

monk is still fucked though lol
>>
>>379568751
Pizza
Monster
And a lot of water so the above two don't make me feel like shit.
>>
>>379565237
Don't worry one day we will all be dead and the internet will be gone and there will be no more games and only stillness will exist.
>>
>>379569382
>lost half their utility
>literally even stronger
What? All we have now is trick attack and with the ping increase i'm considering dropping the job.
>>
>>379569486
yep
>>
>>379565237
are we getting ex primals on launch?
>>
>>379565462
Why did he boat across the ocean then? Why not leave Yuigiri and WoL with no knowledge at all, surely that would benefit the Garlean's more no?
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>>379569638
Does it redirect you to this page after clicking on it?
>>
So do we know who the SAM and RDM trainers are yet or where they are? It'd be neat if Gosetsu was the SAM trainer, but I doubt that since he'll be in the MSQ.
>>
>>379569734
yeah but there's no key on the bottom like there is in yours
>>
>>379569762
RDM is in Ul'dah and I think SAM is too but I'm not sure
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>7 days left

How you guys holding up
>>
>>379561141
Level 70 for DRG is looking to be way better than this. Level 50 DRG was awful literally just use shit on cooldown keep your DoT's up and fill with full thrust. Level 60 was very flowchart but just adding the Geiskogul and BotD management with FNC/WT made it more complex.
>>
>>379569773
You have to click "UNLOCK THE ACTIVATION KEY" or some shit first, there should be a button to do so.

If not, try another browser.
>>
>>379567571
So RDM?
>>
>>379569847
Bored. At least E3 will pass a couple days.
>>
>>379569847
One garbage week of work left then two weeks vacation.
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>>379569762
RDM is ul'dah, SAM is gridania
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>>379569847
>mfw i've bought odin sphere remake, kirby robobot, and bravely second and can't seem to get into any of them as I wait for stormblood
>>
Where the ever loving fuck do you guys get the patience to level up CUL.

Holy fuck this is like pulling teeth.
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>HW launch
>MCH IS SO COOL GUNS
>WTF IT HAS CAST BARS
>WTF IT'S PROC BASED
>least retained job

>SB launch
>RDM IS SO COOL SWORDS
>>
>>379563663
There seems to be more actual choices in the Role Skills than there were in Cross Class skills, especially for healers.
>>
>>379569961
just leves and collectibles
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>my face I fucking hate the Story because I hate every single Scion and Haedelyn
Fuck, why am I forced to hang around the nerds. I'd rather hang around with the Ascians.
>>
All they need to do with the graphics is up the lighting and shadows a bit, add a bit of blur and turn the contrast up.

It would look amazing.
>>
>>379568751
Nothing since I can't afford food because the limited edition cost 225$ with shipping, but it's fine since I'll die happy.
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>>379569847
I have nothing to do, I log in and get sad everyone is offline or afk.
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>>379570008
Let's hope, I don't want shitters on my main
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>>379570008
>SAM has cast times
>RDM has procs
well hopefully they both see a die-off
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>6 Fell Cleaves Meme
For what purpose?
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>>379570047
both are shit
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>main healer
>lving tank for the first time
>shit healers in every run
Now I understand tank pain and hate for healer. This how it feel like to be cucked at the healer's mercy
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>>379570194
>not wanting to hang around Char Aznable
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>>379569961
Leves, spam them and do the Grand Company turn in daily, also the Ixali and Moogle beast tribe quests.
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>>379569847
Having trouble sleeping.
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>>379569847
Maybe ill play lol like the punk i am.
Has been long time since i played.
>>
>>379570253

Thats what i"ve been doing, but man, you go poor from spamming leves if you aren't able to get the materials.

Gotta grind BOT to grind CUL it seems.
>>
>>379570149
WARs wouldn't shut the fuck up about muh Fell Cleaves so Yoshi gave them exactly what they wanted
>>
>>379570289
>Went to bed at 2
>Fell asleep at 5
>Woke up at 8:30
Hi.
>>
>>379570242
>ascian=char
char is better and have good taste in girls
>>
>>379570054
They already did that with HW, didn't they?
>>
>>379568751
Work ;_;
>>
>>379569762
RDM is in the Temple that is currently closed, in Ul'dah
>>
>>379570352
I only spent a few million getting the items for leves from 1-50 for all crafters then spammed beast tribes and Grand Company. I didn't think that was that expensive.
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>family wanted to go out for vacations during the first week of stormblood
>I said no
>the got mad at me

I fucked up?
I have been waiting months for this
>>
Can they just outright remove limit breaks in PvP? The netcode is so fucking trash that it's utterly infuriating getting hit by a ranged LB after you've been out of the marker for 2 seconds
>>
>>379570638

Yeah fuck that, I only have 1 Million Gil, and I only pulled that off with some lucky ass drops from Aquapolis.
>>
>>379569786
>>379570612
>old zones

keep draming

the new guilds should be at new zones
>>
>>379570107
>cast times (plural)
there's literally one SAM skill with cast times because you need concentration to unsheathe japanese steel
>>
>>379570649
you fucked up
>>
>>379570649
Yes, it's not like you can do anything but run the same 1 dungeon for weeks over and over again.
>>
>>379570649
Did you announce 6 months in advance that you had plans for the month of June?
>>
>>379570008
They're different, though. MCH abilities feel like they masquerade as another class with the combo bonuses, while the proc side of RDM is more like BLM, or at least what I remember of BLM from ARR. Spam bread and butter to get procs, use procs to use other skills you wouldn't normally use otherwise because cast times.
>>
>>379570725
They're available to players at level 50
>>
>>379570725
>neither Red Mage nor Samurai will have any story progression requirements whatsoever to unlock
http://massivelyop.com/2017/03/11/pax-east-2017-naoki-yoshida-on-final-fantasy-xivs-new-jobs-old-jobs-and-future-patches/
>>
>>379570897
BLM procs aren't guaranteed but the Fire 1 -> Fire 3 motion is pretty much the same as a RDM proc, yeah
>>
>>379561141
>quadruple off GCD

Whoever made this is a retard fracture or not.
>>
>>379570649
Depends where are you going.
But i think the best is going with them.
If you like them of course
>>
>>379569664
That wouldn't allow the Garleans to utterly crush the rebellion stirring in Doma, though.
>>
>>379570897
>while the proc side of RDM is more like BLM
It's really not.
Unlike on BLM, RDM procs are huge bonuses and come up more often.
>>
>>379570984
Neither is RDM's (except Verholy/flare which you get at the end of combo) but they have much easier time since their proccing spells don't have any cast time.
>>
what did we learn from the SB launch trailer

nothing?
>>
You should really take this thread to /vg/
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>>379570897
BLM procs are shortcuts, RDM's function more like "critical hits" of spells cast. They're similar enough though.
>>
Just got through the HW base msq. Now I'm going through the end game MSQs. What's the best way for me to raise my I level without wasting currencys on stuff that will become obsolete in SB?

I just wanna be at the minimum ilevel to get through the rest of the HWs endgame stuff. I don't really care about the raids though.
>>
>>379571113
I can't believe WoL is fucking dead.
>>
>>379571113
worst girl is dead
best boy returns
>>
I did it. I preordered.
>>
>>379571128
/xivg/ is awful
>>
>>379571128
I would really prefer if you'd be quiet
>>
>>379571113
They better have a good excuse for the WoL to lose.
>>
>>379571157
the currency you'll be "wasting" will also be obsolete in SB so it doesn't really make a difference

also the 24-man raid questline gives one of the best glamours in the game
>>
>>379570390
Char is known for his legendary bad taste in women

>falls for Quess instead of his hot secretary
>doesn't give Haman Karn the dick

Amuro is the one with god tier taste in women
>>
>>379571269
The ultima armor you mean?
>>
>>379571323
Redbill Scarf, duh
>>
>>379571251
WoL is like reverse-Dante, a full blown jobber in the cutscene.
>>
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Why is sam in Gridania and not Mor Dhona
>>
>>379571251
wol is a chump who gets carried by the echo and isn't actually that great at fighting

also that dude has like three katanas THREE
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>>379571384
stroptoopstoostpso STOP STOP
>>
>>379571251
>"Your guardian has no sway here, Warrior of Light! We bring with us each a piece of Zodiark, whose might eclipses that of your sun!"
>"Warrior, we must needs find a way to counter the effects of these crystals they carry!"
>*nods respectfully*
>>
>>379571384
do padjal have pubic hair
>>
>>379571473
The elementals prefer them not to.
>>
Why is no one talking about Ixion showing up in the Stormblood trailer? Is /v/ really full of Wowfugees?
>>
>>379571526
>world boss
yawn
>>
>>379571113
link?

also when is the early access for preorders
>>
fuck, I wanna play RDM RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
>>
>>379571526
it was mentioned like right after the trailer came out
>>
>>379571601
https://tylian.github.io/rdm/
>>
>>379571592
in 7 days and 45 minutes
>>
>>379571283
no fuck you
little girls is best
>>
>>379563286
>want snow flake effect
no thank you. give me something else cooler
>>
Liberty or Death?
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>>379571635
cool thanks mate, guess i better grind these classes up.
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>>379571712
LIBERDY OR DED :DDDD
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>>379571712
Bend with the wind you savage.
>>
>>379569762
>It'd be neat if Gosetsu was the SAM trainer
Where the fuck is my nigga Cyan?
>>
>>379571631

Its funny because all this needs is a "dodge AOE" mechanic and it works as a perfect replacement for the game.
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>>379563985
I hope not
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>>379571384
I must have at least 50 photos of her panties. Thank you based Japan and based YoshiP.
>>
>>379571775
Ever since they put Setzer in Kingdom Hearts, I want them to never use any FFVI characters in any other game ever again.
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>>379571446
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>>379571856
I didn't even realise it was Setzer from VI in that game because of how shitty they made him.
>>
I just reached floor 60 of PotD. How do I keep redoing floor 51-60? I don't see an option.
>>
>>379571631

nice, thanks!

btw, do we already know where the two new jobs will start?
>>
>>379571997
Delete the save, start again at floor 51.
>>
>>379571997
clear floor 100
>>
>>379571997
Delete your save file.
>>
>>379571997
Reach floor 100?
>>
>>379572040
Ul'Dah and Gridania
>>
>>379571526
>the only ff game i played was 10
do you know how many fuckin final fantasy bosses were in that trailer? there was like 6
>>
>>379571821
It doesn't have AoE skills besides Contre Sixte or role actions besides SC, but the AoE rotation is basically Scatter > Moulinet spam and caster role actions are pretty much utility. It's pretty much perfect every other way though, and is a nice little time waster/muscle memory builder.

I'll probably macro Corps a corps to do a hotbar change, I just have no idea where to squeeze in the melee combo.
>>
>>379571997
reset and start again at 51

repeat about ~40 times to get from level 50 to 60
>>
I CAN'T FUCKING SLEEP

JESUS CHRIST, YOSHIDA

YOU'RE KILLING 'SHTOLA

やめて!!!
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>>379572120

very good, thanks.
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>>379572337
>killing a scion
No they will kill Gogetsu and the old man from the trailer.
>>
>>379572337
why is Zenos so huge
>>
>>379572402
Garleans are generally taller, and he's wearing fuckhuge armour.
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>>379571997
Gotta keep reseting (deleting) the save each run. You can now choose to start at either f1 or f51 on a new file each time.
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>>379570371
God I fucking hate those faggots. How are they fine making Warrior even a simpler snore job than before.

PLD actually does seem more fun to play than WAR in SB
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>>379572337
Is Zenos going to be the villain we've all been waiting for? Is he finally going to show the playerbase at large that the Garleans Were Right?
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>>379572507
Gaius already did that in certain part.

Zenos sounds like he just wants to fuck shit up and play around with his new toys.
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>>379572507
He'll become the Haurchefant of villains. A meme of "he did nothing wrong" and "what if he was right?" while jerking off to the hammy cutscenes he's in.
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>tfw lost the diabolic healer hat to my co-healer that /gposed all the void crystals and the door part of the diabolos fight
I've only been grinding 2 weeks for that hat only so I'm not mad at all
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>>379572621
Forget about it and use the alex hat.
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>>379572141
Who are you quoting?
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>>379563985
ive fucked girls uglier than this
my entire life is regret
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>>379572736
You disgust me.
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>>379572683
Diabolic healer hat must be the best looking healer hat in the game. Just give me my fucking healer hat.
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>>379568751
Soup and Ice Cream
I'm getting my wisdom teeth pulled the day before
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>>379572507
No, he's presented as pretty unlikable.
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I wish Stormblood looked fun.
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so what content will now be irrelevant when stormblood hits
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>>379572816
Yoshi is a lalafell, fuck his opinion.
Being mean to ala mhiggers and killing a scion will make him likeable to me.
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>>379572806
>tfw I'm still missing the glove but can't be fuck to farm for it
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>>379568751
Whatever my mommy makes :v)
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>>379572881
Everything,
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>>379568751
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>>379572881
Everything currently live.
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>>379563985
Hohohoho...Coos ka murishani. Jee mo da. May nopa nata cheen
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>>379561141
Anyone have a picture of the current DRG/MNK rotations? Used to play on launch but not anymore.
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>>379572881
Do you mean "Which content in the game will be irrelevant when Stormblood hits?" or "Which content is relevant now but will be irrelevant when Stormblood hits?"
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>>379562370
One thing that annoyed the fuck out of me playing FFXIV was that classes had rotations instead of priority systems. You went through the same fucking motions over and over again, and if you fucked up applying your token shitty dot of which every class has the same one at the right time you're gonna fuck up everything cause it's all tailored in such a way that you do things at specific times in your rotation.

It might be harder than priority systems, but fuck, it feels so homogenized and unintuitive.

If Level 70 rotations are less "complex" than 50 i might give the game a shot again
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>rotations, umbral, cooldowns
Why do MMOs have to be so convoluted? What's wrong with a simple spell/mp/ability system like FF4 or 7
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>>379573036
Most XIV jobs have priority rotations.
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I'm two hours in and I'm bored to death, doess it get better or should I just uninstall now?
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>>379561141

>fracture
lmao
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>>379572990
Add Elixir Field and Forbidden chakra somewhere in there and youre gucci. And guess what, the rotation will still be the exact same in SB since we're still not getting any new damage skills
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>24 man shatter

Is there anything worse
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>>379573209
But this image came out from before I quit
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>>379570649
Shit man, i almost was in the exaclty same situation. Glad i didn't have to make that choice.
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>>379573298
And the rotation is still the exact same. YoshiP hates monks
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>>379573348
oh ok
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>>379573161
Just uninstall, everything but the endgame is questing.
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>>379564061

To be honest your right, I look at the tank Xcross and there's only 5 you can willingly take, especially as a dark knight, you have to get three of your fucking skills back that are being removed so you only have two choices from there and it's obviously provoke and something else.
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>After all these years people still make Dragoon jokes

I wouldn't even mind if people at least tried to be original or funny but it's always the same thing about tanking the floor. Don't people get tired of repeating the same thing constantly for years?
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Ryujin no ken wo kurae
>use lb at 1%
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>tfw i go to sleep 5am every day because NEET
>Stormblood is releasing at 6am local time
I'm going to need amazing self control to actually sleep that night
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>>379573161
It gets better, but if you're bored to death already then it probably won't get better enough to justify slogging through it.
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>That night when we're getting datamined songs and models
Is there a comfier time?
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>>379572990
MNK doesn't need a picture. You pretty much just refresh dots/buffs when they drop/off cd. It's ok your dots/buffs by one tick. For dots I like to get one Chakra if it means I'll get another tick of dot in that one second. It's not really a potency loss since you gained another tick, and you also gained 1/5 of a Purification (the 300tp restore) or 1/5 of a Forbidden Chakra (320 pot oGCD, being nerfed to 250 in SB lmao fuck you Yoshi).
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>>379573247

24 man secure
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>>379573480
I'm yet to see a DRG fuck up for DRG reasons like animation lock.

The worst shitters in public DFs have always been BLMs, in my experience.
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>>379573481
Why the lb is not SAM breakdancing?.
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>Total Play Time: 200 days, 6 hours, 39 minutes
I started in 3.0, then stopped at the start of 3.1 and only came back at the end of 3.3.
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>>379573605
>For dots I like to get one Chakra if it means I'll get another tick of dot in that one second
Pretty worthless imo since A9S was the only fight without massive downtimes
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>>379573605
it's not really a nerf
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I don't know why I'm bothering with this umbrite step a week before expansion.
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>>379573605
>(320 pot oGCD, being nerfed to 250 in SB lmao fuck you Yoshi).
>they did this because the chakra gain passive
>they completely ignore the fact that you don't have it at level 60

Fuck them really.
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>>379573727
because it won't be nerfed and the relic is always good for glamor
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>>379573480
Being funny is hard. Don't ask too much of the FFXIV playerbase
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>>379573675
>The worst shitters in public DFs have always been BLMs, in my experience.
>Dun Scaith, Scatqueen
>don't move mechanic
>only ones with the bleeding debuff are black mages
How? Your fucking job is to stand still and nuke. Really, how?
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>>379573209
>No mention of form shift
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>>379567575
>dying ala mhigans call for rhalgar with their dying breath at baelsar's wall
>lol its shinryru summoned :)
I get that it's nidhogger's eyes but what the hell?
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>>379573395
They should have just given you all your role skills and got rid of the "pick five" thing entirely. Design fights so that they don't require more than five and let people rearrange hotbars if they're so worried about having too many hotkeys.
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>"SAM main lf static for speedkills 4.0"
Yeah, ok buddy. Someone has been drinking too much of that Creator with echo kool-aid.
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>>379573791
Not him but I'm halfway done with that step but DRG one looks like shit.
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>>379573161
Just uninstall. Why do you need confirmation from other people? If you don't like then stop.
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>>379573161
It gets better around level 30.

Until then have fun pressing 1 button. I think leveling a lancer is the most cancerous thing in the entire game.
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>>379573843
Muh FF, muh Omega x Shinryu, muh references.
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>>379573480
>After all these years Dragoons are still dying to mechanics because they're slow as fuck and gotta get that last positional or get stuck in animation lock, or they're just shitty kiddies in general
I wouldn't even mind if Dragoons at least tried to only take non-killing damage when getting their positionals/jumps, but it's always the same thing about failing to do mechanics. Don't Dragoons get tired of repeating the same thing constantly for years?
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>>379573970
The finished DRG anima is one of the best looking ones.
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>>379562370
red mage looks boring as fuck in ffxiv
what happened to the debuffing/refreshing role it used to be?
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>>379573395
The idea is to coordinate and choose different cross class abilities depending on what you're doing, and to a greater extent if you're with another tank.
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>>379573970
then why the fuck did you do it you stupid faggot
why the fuck would you make a relic weapon you don't like the look of?
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>>379574045
Fuck no. It looks like shit.
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>>379574059
>role it used to be?
Red Mage was not in FFXIV prior to this.
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>>379572990
it doesn't matter. in one week it will be literally 1-2-3-4-5-6 for the rotation since they are getting rid of the two dots that you had to weave it, and even then it wasn't that complicated to begin with. I can't see anyone enjoying this job when 4.0 comes around since it will truly be the exact same rotation for another expansion cycle.
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>>379574064

Yeah and it's a stupid fucking idea, this happened with wow too with the talents. You don't have a ahoice in the matter you take whats good for each situation and lump it. It's a fucking joke to shit like this.
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>>379574080
No it doesn't.
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>>379573706
Yeah it's probably not much of a difference dps-wise, but for someone with autism like me who hates clipping dots, it's perfect.
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>>379574045
Only pld and ast look good desu.
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>>379573843
Ilberd wanted to summon Bahamut, not Rhalgr. Since he was the one holding the eyes (or was the most distressed), he summoned a Primal resembling his vision of Bahamut.
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>>379573841
Form Shift is part of your rotation nigger? It's for jumps and starting the fight with GL1 when PB is on CD. Not the rotation. Unless you're fighting a shit ton of mobs and you're out of TP, then you can just form shift so you only do Rock Breaker with an occasional Twin Snakes to refresh.
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>>379574158
I like MCH's
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>>379574158
>>379574284
is there an image dump of all the animas?
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>>379573031
2nd one
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Whats the point of being a SAM when Zenos is just you but way cooler
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>>379574158
AST is beautiful
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>>379574495
>way cooler
>doesn't have a 60 second dot
think again
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>>379574495
>Kills mary sue cat for us
Is he our guy?
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>>379574059
It would have been interesting to have a BRD/MCH archetype but as a caster, but it'd probably fuck with their current concept of role actions. Adding more BRD and MCH type classes is also kind of wonky since you have to figure out how all the debuffs work together in an MMO with very tight encounter design.

At least they get the flavour of "jack of all trades" right with white and black magic both represented, and it got a raise, a potent heal and a party-wide buff. Make sure to grab Addle and there you go.

You're not really going to get any FF job in XIV represented with the same depth from previous FFs.
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Why did Yoshi nerf Flare/Holy again? Were people clearing raids in 2 minutes because of them? Literally why?
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based Yoshi-P strikes again!!!
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>>379574463
Then it's just Creator Savage, Baelsar's Wall/Sohm Al HM, and Dun Scaith (with a side helping of Weeping City and Void Ark for the other raid tokens).

Everything else except PotD is already just as irrelevant as it's going to be in Stormblood, and PotD is going to continue to be relevant for a while for all the people leveling RDM/SAM.
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>>379574774
When will someone take him down
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>>379574762
>Were people clearing raids in 2 minutes because of them?
Not even that.

He just hates big pulls in dungeon. He literally got mad that people could finish shitty dungeons 5 mins faster.
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>>379574762
RESPECT THE CONTENT
1 PULL AT A TIME
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>>379574762
People were melting dungeons with it, STOP IT
PULL ONE MOB AT A TIME
RESPECT THE CONTENT
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>>379574871
>>379574854

>RESPECT THE CONTENT
is that really something he said
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>>379574762
>damage falloff
>limit on the number of shit you can catch
thanks yoshi
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>>379574774

I love how people are taking this as yoshi saying "!don't do dps as a healer" when it's actually quite the opposite, note that he says multiple times that it's actually helpful.
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>>379570095
what server are you on.
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not larry but still funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ52sXi0ke4
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>>379574762
>Don't create any interesting mechanics with trash
>Make the boss-to-boss slog mindnumbingly boring
>RESPECT THE CONTENT
Maybe instead of nerfing AoE he should create shit like different trash packs empowering each other. It just feels like they're afraid of adding any sort of challenge anywhere outside of Extreme trials and Savage shit, and would sooner handicap player performance than increase enemy power.
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>>379574978
there are so many ways they COULD make trash interesting beyond just being auto attacking hp tanks that maybe fire a targeted aoe once in a while, but it just never happens
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>>379574774
He's right, stop telling WHMs to DPS
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>>379574001
I see more shitty Ninja than I do Dragoon.

I swear every Ninja these days uses Doton on bosses.
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>>379569959
Nigga keep playing robobot.
The final boss is fucking glorious
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>>379574975
I didn't think it was possible to be worse than larry but here we are
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>>379575037
>telling a WHM to do anything but change jobs
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why does it take us like 10 minutes to kill a trash dragon but npcs one shot them like nothing
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>watching the new Stormblood Launch Trailer
>that obvious Living Liquid human form reskin
So this... is the power... of Stormblood....
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>>379574774
Yoshi-P is a good person.
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>>379573036
God bless 2B and all the sluts stripping because of her
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>>379575238
For the 3rd time yes
Remember the Fire one in Gubal HM
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>>379574774
Keep in mind he probably sees Savage and Ex primals for a select few people, and that the majority of the playerbase (which he is referring to here regarding healer DPS) do not use that content, which is the only content to care about, so this doesn't matter too much.

I hope.
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>>379574774
I really wish they'd take a hard stance on it, but I imagine they're just lazy and/or don't wanna step on the toes of either group. Like, shit, do a redesign and either give them some kind of DPS mechanic or just make the healing/support role a real thing by giving them healing/support things to do in combat. This wishy-washy stance isn't doing anyone any good.

Then again, it'd also mean the healing role is less casual in general, so no, it'll never happen.
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>>379575238
For someone who has no idea what he's talking about you sure love to criticize
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>>379574774
So they do not have expectation of them to DPS

BUT do they have any expectation for DPS players to perform further than 1-2-3?
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>>379575040
I've seen a bizarre number of single targeting Ninja in 10 mob pulls
Monks are incredibly questionable too
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>>379574854
>>379574871
>>379574930
>RESPECT THE CONTENT
Did he literally say this? What a meme.

>>379574847
>>379574937
What is wrong with killing shit a bit faster? I still don't understand this. I fucking hate tome grind please let me get through it faster holy shit. No wonder Bane got the nerfbat also. I'm waiting for DPS aoe abilities to get nerfed now.
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>>379575480
The same people who complain about Bane/Flare/Holy nerfs and shit taking longer are the first people who will turn around and sit around doing fucking nothing in content they deem and not worth trying hard over
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>>379575480
The longer you're in a dungeon, the more money they're getting from your sub time.

It adds up.
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>>379571283
>Char is known for his legendary bad taste in women
Reddit is that way
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>>379572990
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Ffxiv' direction is to cater toward casuals, you fucks. It's about accessibility since the majority of players are casuals. Don't be fucking delusional and think that they would cater SB for the 15% of people that identify as elitist. Of course 4.0 is going to be easy and all about allowing even the shittest of players to run through without much hassle or tears. Only once they start cranking out the proper raids is when you faggots can complain because that's the shit that is aimed and catered to you.
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>>379574975
There wasn't a single joke in there.
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>>379575640
me in the middle
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>Roll Marauder today for shit and giggles because I had nothing else to do that interests me.
>Hit 15 Real quick and Start a Sastasha Group.
>Everything goes swimmingly.
>Then Tank Palace of the Dead.
>Everything goes swimmingly until we hit around level 30's because I dont have a job crystal but still manage to finish it dispite it.
>MFW you fucking faggots are afraid to tank for no reason.

why are you people so cowardly ? I got cucked outta Blu mage because of you guys.
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>>379575640
Chang blows them the fuck out
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>>379575667
How does one "identify as an elitist"? The term "elitist" is inherently negative.
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>>379575657
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the best rotation? I generally the same but I don't double weave b4b/IR, and I can squeeze a second Geirskogul off before b4b wears off (if I remember right, haven't played DRG much since like a year ago).
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>>379575667
Do you think you're saying something new? Literally everyone knows this you fuckhead, we're still allowed to moan and bitch about it. MMOs have been catering to casuals as their main demographic for at least a decade.
>>
>joined late
>want to do coils and see the story
>doing them now ill have to skip all the cutscenes and fags will probably get mad at me for not watching guides

why is the community so unwelcoming to people
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>>379575667
But the base game and HW both had THOSE DUNGEONS during progression that fuck unsuspecting people in the ass. Surely SB would have something similar?
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>>379575816
> The term "elitist" is inherently negative.
Only for the plebs not part of the elite.
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>>379575783
Tanking PotD is not something to brag about and is hardly relevant
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>>379574045
Longinus is better
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>>379575823
Why don't you make some fucking friends and ask them to do it with you instead of crying?
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>>379575783
>I got cucked outta Blu mage because of you guys.
what? we dindu nuffin, they didn't put any more tank/healer roles because they suck enough at balancing the 3 each that currently exist.
that said, yes, tanking is a lot easier than people give it credit for. with that in mind, low level GLD tanking is really fucking awful due to how little threat you generate.
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>>379575889
That doesn't answer the issue of the community being shitty
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>>379575823
Start a PF for it. You'll probably wanna watch some guides though, or at least get summaries. Certain coils really can't be done blind unless you feel like wasting an hour, even today.
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>>379575783
Whoa you tanked PotD
Holy shit what a badass, watch out guys

Retard
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>>379575823
Just specify in the party finder that you want to do a fucking cutscene run you edgy fucking child
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>>379575037
>Can't make young girl Hyurs like Sylphie as your character
Fuck this game
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>>379575783
>bragging about tanking the first fucking dungeon in the game and the tutorial blocks of the faceroll leveling ground
Come back after you got grilled alive by 7 people because you fucked up an EX primal and killed everyone.
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>>379575783
>I tanked something that isn't hard to tank

wow congrats
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>>379575820
Literally every single one of these rotations will be outdated in a week.
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>>379575850
Nobody with any self-respect or self-awareness in an MMO would actually call themselves an elitist. The people that call themselves "elitist" are, nine times out of ten, actually completely fucking trash at the game and just nursing a cosmically oversized ego.
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>>379575823
Hopefully we get another 100 ilvl boost in SB so we can solo everything in ARR, and hopefully Yoshi lets your (healer) Chocobo in.
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So what's the prospected new rotation of Warrior?
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>>379576006
I find that the best thing to do in scenarios where you alone are responsible for getting everyone killed, is to immediately own up to it, say you know what you did wrong and that you'll do it right the next time. at worst someone will call you an idiot, but 99% of the time everyone will just accept it and move on.

MMO101: the worst thing after a wipe is for no one to say anything
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>>379576063
You're right, it's just a question for my own mind I guess. Not that I'll always be wondering, just for the sake of the current week and launch week before ppl reach ~68.
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>>379575823
>wants to run 4 year old content
>complains when people get mad at him for watching 5 minute cutscenes
Go to any city state and stay at the inn. There will be a book called 'The Unending Journey', which lets you rewatch any story cutscene in the game on your own time.
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>>379575820
There is a way to get three geirskoguls in one refresh with the way buff timers work now, but you can't get the double b4b.
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>>379575823
Ask your fc and watch the stupid cutscenes.
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>>379575783
>I tanked Satasha AND potd
>Im so badass
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>>379576106
>Fell Cleave
>Fell Cleave
>Upheaval
>Fell Cleave
>Infuriate
>Fell Cleave
>Fell Cleave
>Fell Cleave
>Tickle the boss's dick with your shitty combos for two minutes until you can do it again
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>>379571526
It's literally a kirin it could be fucking anything, it doesn't mean its ixion.
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>>379576106
>Unequip WAR soul crystal
>Equip PLD soul crystal
Thats about it
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>>379576396
Fuck that, why the fuck did I level a Warrior. I will never fall for the "Warrior is more fun" meme again.
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>>379576006
You admit your mistakes suck it up and do it again.

although for some strange reason Iam more nervous as a DPS in my static I have no idea why..
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>>379575783
If this is a legitimate bragging post then I feel extremely sorry for you cause that shit was nowhere near worth spending the effort typing out
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>>379576401
A... Kirin?
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>>379576446
B-BUT MY DPS
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>>379576006
I always hope that a DPS fucks up first so I get enough time to memorize all the shit happening in the encounter.
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>>379576169
The guide honestly makes DRG seem a lot harder than it is. Use heavy thrust every 3 GCDs. Use the chaos thrust line for every 2 full thrust lines. Use Geirskogul if you have at least 20s left on botd. Jump whenever, power surging the stun jump isn't catastrophic. Use phlebotomize at the end of any weaponskill chain if you want to, not really essential outside raids.
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>>379576401
>extremely visually similar to ixion
>uses lightning from its horn in the same way ixion does
>in a game that literally subsists on how many references to the previous games it can fit in per square meter
yeah sure anon its just some kirin
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>>379576212
You don't get all the cutscenes tho right? I don't think it saves every singl epiece of dialog.
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>>379576553
>every 3 GCDs
I'm an idiot. I meant weaponskill chains.
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>>379576446
WAR was never fun unless you came in your pants with every fell cleave.
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>>379576006
>Used to be a tank main back when the first three primals were relevant with extreme difficult
>Fucked up positioning hardcore on Garuda extreme on the whirlwind phase and had trouble snapping aggro on the add I was supposed to grab
>Too embarrassed to tank again for a while after that
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>>379576639
Any pre-battle cutscene that would make people mad at you for watching is there.
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>play frontlines for the first time
>4 ninjas in my party
>as soon as we reach the center all 4 use hide and i never see them again after that
>end of match they have like 8+ kills and a fuck ton assists

the fuck? are ninjas good at pvp or somethin? i didnt see them do shit
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>>379576780
They have stupid good burst
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>>379576707
>tfw WAR losing the +20% crit fell cleave
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>>379576568
Hurr durr omg look guys its ixion!

https://youtu.be/4NYn0jn49bw?t=2m13s
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>>379576780
If its anything like WoWs Rogue their job is to kill Key targets on the battlefield both weakned and Cloth.
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>>379576729
You can always kidna bail yourself out just by doing the enmity combo nearly all the time. The real trouble with tanking comes with trying to do as much dps as possible while not endangering the enmity table.

>>379576816
Good, WARs were dps with provoke, fuck them.
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>>379576832
Fuck off WoWfugee
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>>379576707
I wish could use the axe on Dark Knight.
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>>379576446
WAR was most fun in ARR when Defiance was a good tank stance.

It was fun, but less so, in HW when Deliverance was a thing but it still had some nuance.

It's going to be shitty in Stormblood unless you really love Fell Cleave and don't care about bringing anything else to the table (including overall DPS).

Based on the pattern I have to assume that in 5.0 WAR's new class mechanic is going to be inverting your movement keys and your camera every 30 seconds.
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>>379576832
>links a monhun game
>when we're talking about possible ff references

anon.....
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>tfw falling for the slutglam meme
>>379576780
No, but they can't see them, they can ambush people.
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>>379576832
Do you have a brain problem?
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>>379576832
Are you fucking stupid?
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>DRK's soul survivor trick attack effect is gone
Hahahahaha
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>>379574072
I'm doing the one for SMN, not DRG.
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>>379577037
>linking to Reddit
Ding dong
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>>379576401
Check your goddamn eyes
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>>379576780
Hyoton, Kassatsu, Eliven, Overwhelm, TA, Dream, Jugulate (stun), LB.
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>>379576872

wow, art of an elezen that actually uses in-game proportions
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>tfw strorblodd soon and i didn't even finished HW story yet, let alone HW+.
>tfw will never fight sofia or any other boss from HW or ARR
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>>379577153
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>>379577037
Oh well, always figured it was too good to be true.
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>DRK is more fun than WAR
What
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>>379576553
You are a shitter and this is bad advice
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>dinner with ayyyymeric
>WoL getting visibly spooked as the servant prepares the drink
well played square
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>>379577037
That's a good thing even if I would have loved it. DRK and WAR seem pretty well balanced without it, and having that effect would have just put WAR into the HW PLD seat.
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>>379577275
DRK is more fun than WAR.
t. tank who plays all three tank jobs often
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>>379577126
What did you want me to link to? The Famitsu article that's in Japanese?
Fucking retard.
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>>379577326
Yeah I noticed that too.

Theres been 2 poisonings so far in this game and all have been by drink. at this point even your PC is aware of the dangers of a nice drink.
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>>379577229
Looks nothing like the one in trailer because of all the particle effects, nice try.
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>>379576872
>SCH
>Carbuncle
What does it mean?
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>>379577340
I play all three as well, I reckon WAR and DRK are pretty close in terms of fun.

PLD, however, is fucking cum garglingly boring.
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>>379577397
Not to Reddit, you fucking idiot. Copy and past the translations here, you absolute faggot. You need to go back.
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>>379577501
>HE LINKED TO RIBBIT ALTHOUGH LOTS OF POSTERS ITT GO TO THE FFXIV SUBPLEBBIT ANYWAY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(You)
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>>379577492
I honestly find PLD to be pretty fun to play in HW. Maybe it's because Royal Authority and Goring Blade feel so good. I like the little bits of extra utility that PLD brings thanks to Clemency and Divine Veil, and how I can cheat some knockbacks with Tempered Will. Hello Sophia EX.
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>>379577667
Kill yourself you subhuman redditor and spare everyone your bellow shitpost quality posts.
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>>379577439
>IM SILLY
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>>379577725
I'm not the one who got triggered by a link and sperged out instead of actually commenting the piece of news.
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>>379577740
>It has hooves and lighting and a horn so it must be Ixion!!!!!!11

How mad are you right now?
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>>379577725
Fuck off you huge sperg. I'm not that guy but the majority of people here check the subreddit, too. This isn't some fucking seekrit club.
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>>379577439
>ff14 is known for reusing skeleton and skins from the previous game
>even Yojimbo's model is reused
>he still trying to argue
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>>379577901
I'm not at all mad, becuase i'm absolutely certain that i'll be proven right once we actually encounter IXION in stormblood.
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>>379577275
>Power Slash
>Souleater
>Souleater
>Souleater
>Souleater
>Souleater
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>>379577828
You need to go back.
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>>379577676
Sheltron is actually fun as fuck to use, too. It's just that every fight in HW except for Thordan and the first half of Sephirot have tankbusters that are either magical (can't be blocked), multi-hit (Sheltron can only block one), or spaced so far apart that you can cover them with other cooldowns (Sheltron is needless overkill), so it's kind of a mediocre ability even though theoretically it's crazy strong.
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>>379577931
> the majority of people here
Speak for yourself, retard.
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>>379577998
>A-am I fitting in yet guise????
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>>379577994
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>>379578120
>Anon said without a hint of irony
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>>379578093
Dumb phoneposter
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>>379578009
>needless overkil
There's no such thing as overkill, and if Sheltron's up for a physical tankbuster, there's no reason to not use it. Especially if you're in Sword Oath.
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>>379578190
Fuck off faggot, asshole tanks who swap to dps stance and force me to heal so they can do their miniscule fucking 0.1% dps of mine is annoying as fuck, just fucking cull yourself
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>>379578009
Didn't sheltron block all the hits?.
Or they lied to me
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>>379578190
It being overkill doesn't mean that you don't use it (unless there's a better spot in the fight to use it nearby).

It just means that the use of the skill doesn't tend to amount to anything more than "The healers do the exact same thing to help you recover whether you use it or not, but it takes one fewer Regen tick to get you back to 100% if you use Sheltron".
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>>379577667
I don't go to the subplebbit or reddit in general tho, unless my google search takes me there.


>>>/Ribbit/
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>>379578281
One (1) hit. Read the tooltip.
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>>379578258
>being this incredibly salty over a tank wanting to aid the group by putting out more DPS
Wanna know how I can tell you've literally never done end-game until after it's received countless nerfs, Echo and you're 30+ iLvls above it? Because you're complaining about doing part of your job. If you wanted to full-time DPS, you should've rolled a DPS class.

>>379578307
That's true. I really wish it made more of a difference.
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>>379575820
Looking at the version with the potion, I believe the accepted practice nowadays is so switch where IR and B4B are so that B4B buffs impulse drive and falls off at the same time as BL and your potion to ensure your 2nd 4th tier is buffed by all three.

Not like it matters cause we're losing internal release and power surge
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