SF V season 2.5 changes

>block Ken's lk tatsu
>try to punish it
>eat a dp
>"this shit have to be -2, better check the framedata"
>it's -9

Damn, I gotta use training mode to learn how to punish shit properly.

>>379526724
Did they add region filter yet?

>>379526724
I thought this game was shit and the whole competitive aspect of it had been stripped down

>>379528507
the recovery is a lot closer to when you block the hit than when he stops spinning. the move is also strong on wakeup, so look out for that.

Did they nerf DP's again? They really need to completely overhaul SFV and make it a bit more like IV or III. Preferably III

>>379530319
they buffed dps
medium ones are now invulnerable vs air attacks from frame 1

>>379528507
Frankly, the worst thing about the game is how much you have to rely on character knowledge to play, especially against characters with a lot of combos. If you're playing a new character, sometimes, it can be impossible to know when a combo ends. And if you guess wrong, you're suddenly eating a potentially 30-40 percent damage combo. It gets especially bad in certain situations, like how certain characters can combo after a special move. Usually, if I block Cammy's air-screw, I'd assume I have priority, since I blocked her special, but she can actually hit me afterwards. It's like none of the move's properties matches what the animation dictate they should be. Certain matchups start to feel like Marvel.

>>379530718
all you need to know about cammy is she's negative after divekicks if she connects above your waist unless it's an EX version

rashid is far more matchup knowledge reliant desu

>>379531191
I was using her as an example, but I just don't like the fact that it isn't really "pick up and play" anymore. I remember when I was little having friends come over and play, and every one would have fun, even if they were just playing it for the first time, but this one doesn't have that same feeling.

>>379531361
That's because you're not picking up and playing with your friends anymore. Every fighting game felt like that when you were younger because everyone was equally unknowledgeable.

Anyone sticking with their mains regardless of if they got fucked over or not?

>>379531781
i dont really care about the couple of nerfs urien got, i'm more mad balrog got away with nothing but a 25hp reduction

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>>379528507
Ken has the most fuck'ed up attacks in the whole game.
He could be -50 on all his moves and he could still probably pressure the shit out of you.

Anyone remember right after the last beta where they made the finale changes before release and everyone that played Ken cried shit because most of his good moves were minus now?
3 months later and Ken is considered turbocancer by everyone because he won almost every tournny during that period.
Japs even made him S tier for a short while.
I don't think it's possible for him to be bad in this game, where burst damage is the bees knees.

>>379532724
The worst part is his running kick. I always see it coming, but because I'm walking forward when he does it, my character can't block in time. It's like he closes in and the kick comes out faster than the time it takes for me to move my hand from right to left and my character to react.

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>>379532224
This is my main issue with Rog. He is the only character in the game with a real comback mechanic, he pretty can outdamage and kill you if he has good bar. You can't go in because he super safe pokes, and if you let him in you're fucked. I think a damage nerf and also a bigger Hp nerf is needed.

>>379526724
Ryu is shit

Do people genuinely still play this shitheap? Why? Is it because it's your first fighting game, because it's fucking awful and there are much better fighting games. Play 3s, SF4, Tekken or GG

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>>379526724
>playing SFV

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>>379533613
>GG
>good

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>Trials Vol. 2
FUCK YOU KARIN FUCK YOU.

>>379533445
wut
almost every character gets easy comebacks with v-trigger, get touched by ken with a stocked trigger in the corner and see what happens
even full on install shit like necalli's allows him to do jab xx trigger into super

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>>379533786
You can't expect me to hate it when she's in it, anon.

>>379531361
Anon, you're exposed to a bigger pool of players these day, many of whom can read your lack of knowledge. A game like SFV is simple after some experimentation, and if you're a beginner, you're likely to go up against other beginners.

I enjoyed fighting games with friends as a kid too, but I enjoy them immensely more today because I actually know what I'm doing. The point being, you saw the old days of fighting games as pick up and play because you and your core group didn't know better.

For fucks sake please buff FANG

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Full stage when?!
>>379534392
I would like to see more of his shenanigans more often, to be honest.

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>>379533613
>>379533786
Im currently playing SFV, Tekken, GG Rev2, and KoF14 and having a blast.
Get fucked shitters

>>379530069
Not even close. Sf5 isn't the best iteration of the game but the only people that cry that it's a shitty game were the casuals who were expecting another sf2. Fight and are a niche genre as is and every time a new one comes out casuals get nostalgia goggles until they realize that you have to actually git gud now days if you're going to play online

>>379534762
me too dude
amazing year for fighting games fans
going back to tekken after so many years, my last tekken was 5.

Tokido's testing Ryu probably due to Akuma's proving to be a real struggle to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1LzlGOsxk

>>379534972
Mine was 2.

>>379534762
and you are shit at all of them lele.

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I wish I could play fighting games but my fighstick has been acting up recently.

Anything to do with the left side of the joystick works properly, but if I try and do a qcf motion 50% of the time it will do a shoryuken instead.

When I turn on the input display in training mode, be it in Tekken 7 or SFV, it shows that it goes in any variation of d, df, d, d, r and will toggle multiple times. Even if I just try and do df in Tekken it will most of the time just do down.

Anybody have any solutions to the problem? I've tried googling and found nothing, even opened up the stick last night and all the triggers seemed fine. Im using a square gate if it helps.

>>379535219
get a new square gate. Easy as fuck to replace and cheap. That is if you're execution isn't the real issue.

>>379526724
Ryu looks like white ken.

>>379535219
Get a new set of switches for your joystick

>>379535219
>using a fightstick

I know who takes themself too seriously.

it's you :)

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>>379535219
assuming its a sanwa lever, you need a new one of pic related and just slide it on and connect the cable

or you can replace the switches individually if you're comfortable soldering

the gate is just a piece of plastic at the end

>>379535469
Ok. Do you really think the square gate is the problem and not the triggers? I'm preeeetty damn sure execution isn't a problem because I've been using the same stick since the last year of USFIV until now, and the issues started around January and was fine until then.

>>379536523
Awesome, thanks. I'll try. Never installed stuff like this before but I'll try it. Not too expensive I assume?

>>379536661
I can't really say unless I feel it out anon. Those things can take quite the beating. Been using my TE with its stock stuff since 2009 and it's still going strong.

It's a shit game so who cares

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>>379536891
True. No point in not trying at this point anyways. Its frustrating doing a qcf just to either do a standing punch or shoryuken.

Thanks for all the tips.

>>379537118
To be fair, SFV has some pretty annoying shortcuts. I've had some silly shit come out during trials when I know I didn't hit the command. I was doing Ibuki's volume 2 shit yesterday, and the amount of times her super popped out towards the end was driving me nuts. And the speed required to bust out the dp had me doing the 2down forward thing just to make it happen properly.

>>379535469
Different anon, but are square gates the best way to go?
I bought an old fightstick and it feels like it has a square gate, and I can't do diagonal inputs worth shit. It feels like I need to hit a 45 degree angle perfectly with it and move it all the way to the end or it comes out as a cardinal direction.
I could do inputs fine on a 360 left stick but it feels so unnatural on the fightstick.

>>379537609
The problem manifested in SFV, and it continued into Tekken 7. Definitely not just a SFV problem.

>>379530718
>It's like none of the move's properties matches what the animation dictate they should be.
I've never had this feeling more than when playing SFV. Mika's dropkick, Karin's rekka, anything Cammy does in vtrigger, Rashid's mixer with the tornado is +0 what the fuck, Ed's crossup punch come ooon now... So many moves look like they really should have different properties

>>379526724
yes hes good and dps are also good if youre not a noob

>>379537663
It's preference, really.

>>379526724
>Have this top tier costume
>Never even play Ryu

Why lads

>>379526724
Can anyone explain Kolin's v skill? It feels like she can just spam it from midrange with little to no risk

>>379531781
I'm still sticking with Bison, but even with 3 frame normal, Laura, Gief and Mika matchups make me quite sad. Especially Laura.

>>379540707
it's -8 on block

>still no rose
still not buying

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>>379541162
>-8 on block
>8f input delay

How do I Mika? I can do her trials but I'm completely lost in a game against rooks or even cpu

Do I just need to play and play and play until I'm used to her

>>379541920
nice meme

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>get a fightstick
>struggle to find a main
>realize that Zangief is my guy
>also realize I don't actually need a stick to play Gief and I do just as good on PS4 controller

I want to mod my stick(HORI RAP4 kai) for tekken tho, to have a less loose/sensitive stick and less sensitive buttons

what parts do you guys recommend
what's the difference between square/octagonal gates?

>>379542964
preference
people will tell you 'square is better when you don't ride the gates and only press enough to activate the microswitches!' when in reality none of them are doing that

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>>379541935
fish for Clap fish for LP LP into whatever
fish for some charged HK fish for some c.HP
Mika is still fun, but still kinda fucked.

>>379542964
I play mostly arcade games, shooters and whatnot, not fighters and I say look into an LS-32 stick if you want something tighter.
It's shorter and stiff as hell but with a nice feel to it. Super short throw.

>>379542964
Swap it for a Sanwa stick, it's what most fighting game arcade cabinets use. Keep the square gate octagonal is a meme

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>>379540362
>tfw bought this costume and exclusively use it
>use the MDZ Jimmy colors because those are sick as hell
Feels good. Still gotta buy the school delinquent one for him too. Shame pic related won't ever be made, along with the others that they planned, but the PC version does have those mods, I guess.

There are also a bunch of different costumes I plan on buying eventually for characters that I hardly even use. Fuck, why am I such a whore for cosmetics?

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>>379544136
That looks shit

Karin needs a good costume that isn't just bait
Her Story costume is laughably bad, looks elegant in the illustrated cut scenes, but in game it's just a plain texture. Don't know how they thought it was passable

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>>379545437
Look at this bollocks.
She might as well be wearing a trash bag

>>379530718
>And if you guess wrong, you're suddenly eating a potentially 30-40 percent damage combo.
Well, that's SFV. It works as intended.
Seriously tho: yes, what's plus and what isn't is messed up. The SFV team are scrubs.

>>379530069
It is shit. But it is loved by people who don't know shit about fighting games, like >>379534862
He has no understanding of risk/reward and how it's skewed in SFV to avoid "git gud"
There's a bunch of dumb stuff that doesn't work in other games, that makes SFV players think they are hot stuff.

I think SF6 will be the same shit as SFV, but boy would it be funny if they went back to neutral based gameplay with defensive options. SFV babbies would get BTFO and cry why they don't get free mix ups with rewards of 30+% without any risks.

ps play fightcade

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>>379542964
I put tighter springs in all my sticks. Don't understand how people can play with that loosey goosey stock shit but whatever you're used to I guess. I also prefer octo gates and bat tops.

>>379530718
Pretty much. Either you need an app like FAT where you look at EACH individual move on characters that give you trouble, or just block and while playing mash a 3 frame normal and see if it interrupts whatever you're getting hit by.

Either way, the learning curve in this game is unnaturally and hilariously shitty in this game. This game is all about guessing, reacting to frametraps, and placing people in frametraps between combos.

No fightstick required, just knowledge and babby tier reads. Seriously, what inputs are there in this game that you could possibly drop using a DS4?

>inb4 some faggot argues that you can't have an opinion on this game unless you're above Platinum / Diamond

>>379545437
>That looks shit
Fuck you. That shit looks awesome.

I do agree that more characters need more costumes that are actually good. I mean, I'm a huge Chunfag but she has like 4-5 different alts that are great. I think Ryu has a few good ones as well, but he's the only male that has a decent number of decent costumes. The costume distribution is heavily slanted towards the females, which I can understand, and muh dick certainly likes it, but it'd be nice if the other male characters got more costumes too.

>>379546508
If it was MVC, you can have that costume. In SFV it's a horrible fit

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I for one think that Karin is one of the best SF girls. Specially in that bikini.

So, what if EX DPs were changed back to not be a counter punish any more?

>>379534392
They buffed Fang, he got some sweet combos with counter. He really need some poison buffs
Also
>Finally reach top 10 Fang players

feels fucking good