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What is his end game?
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>>379505119
>His
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He wants to marry Gilbert
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>>379505119
To troll everybody that isn't the grabdmaster.
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>>379505119
To keep us from ever going to Calvard
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Reminder to worship Josette
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>>379506950
and why would we do that.
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>>379508086
Because she's a goddess and best girl
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>>379505119
He's an isekai and helps grandmaster to get back to real world
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>Read Bleublanc's Door
>X, Y, Z possibilities of his identity
>Interesting, I wonder what his REAL background is
>Post script with his own card
>His number is already in "their" grasp
>His Enforcer number is 10 so X is basically his backstory
I guess I'm a bit disappointed?

Although I find it hilarious on his M.O being to reveal true beauty and then he goes off and masquerades as Machias in CS2. Is Machias the untapped potential in the CS series somehow?
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>>379505119
Why did you guys call him a troll? I don't remember he specifically troll anyone?
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>>379509309
I find it ironic he started out his villainly by essentially eloping with some erebonian woman...no wonder he and olivert get along.
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>>379509341
It's more like he's eternally smug and his tactics employ trickery, and he responds directly to the grandmaster of Ouroboros, and enjoys all the amusing shit that happens.

Plus his fight in Ao is all about trickery and fucking around the whole fight like he doesn't even mind it.
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>>379509341
He most deliberatly trolled gilbert in SC and the entire cast of Ao, as well as duvalie in the pic >>379505736. As for everyone else, he is just rude/dismissive.

>>379509718
His earlier hacking stunt in ao was also for his own amusement too.
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>>379506950
>>379508336
A Time Gem can make Josette a half-decent Earth Wall bot right?
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>>379510129
Yes.
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>>379510129
>wasting time gem on a Josette
nigger what are you doing?
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>>379510220
I did the same
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>>379510220
Hypothetically speaking of course, I don't even have a Time Gem yet nor has Josette left the support slot since Gold/Silver Road.
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So for people playing zero, how's the character gameplay tier going? I reckon top character is either tio or randy.
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>>379510542
Randy>Elie>Tio>Lloyd by chapter 2 beginning. Idk where to rank Wazy.
Randy's aoe blind and Elie's heal saved my bacon on c1 bossfights
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Mcburn the Blazed Demon

Should we expect something dumb or something to surpass Renne/Kevin in suffering because I barely see any amount of darkness in him
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>>379510854
I believe Tio also gets a heal skill, and an Ice AoE attack that freezes enemies. Elie Gets AT advance, Randy has a AT down attack in AoE plus a piercing fire attack i believe.
Lloyd was, self buff that increases STR, SPD and DEF for a lot of turns, Spin attack that sucks enemies towards him, piercing attack with a chance to disable their attacks, rush attack with a chance to stun, and i forget what else.
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>>379511037
His darkness is that he wasn't satisfied by Loewe.
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Estelle is cute. CUTE!
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>>379510542
Randy has the AoE attack delay so he's a fucking boss
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>>379511505
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Has she outgrown her desu?
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>>379511754
Who knows? All i know is she'll never outgrow my dick
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>>379512158
Idk, my dick grows considerably the moment I see or hear her.
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>>379511624
Sounds like someone needs a family.
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>Kanone at Leiston in 3rd
Who even thought she was worthy of being a challenge? I feel insulted Cid was the 1st boss there.
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>>379511624
>used goods
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>>379513659
Extensively tested and reliable goods.
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>>379510542
Late game is Tio>Lloyd>Ellie>Randy.

Tio for making every attack in the game useless. Lloyd gets 50% buff in each stat move for 4 turn and you can keep refreshing it. Ellie has this move that gives hp and cp to everyone inside a circle including her. Randy is good for delays and blinds but everything late game is immune he becomes the weakest.
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This is KeA, she brought us to the timeline where EOPs can play the Crossbell arc now

Make sure to thank her!
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>>379514531
Thanks KeA!
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>>379514531
I want to do lewd things to her
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>>379514531
Thank you girl-I-haven't-met.
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>>379515276
Please find her.
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Just to make sure I get things right, Cassius leaving in FC was to assist the Erebonian Bracer guilds after being attacked by jaeger corps right?
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>This whole scene
MY DICK
Ilya>Rixia by far

>>379516321
Yes.
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>>379516321
I believe Campanella talks about it briefly after the prologue of SC. Cassius was countering every thing Campanella tried against him by using Jaeger corps, and Campanella apparently "broke" Jester as a result, most likely from pushing them to their limits against Cassius, and leaving them.
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>>379516321
>>379516952
That's correct, there's even a Star door in the 3rd that goes on detail about it.
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>>379512471
Cassius's family life sure became weird after the war.
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>>379516793
>Bourgeoisie

I'm guessing it's easier to get with context. The definition of the word seems to be "person who owns the means of production" or some shit.
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>>379517085
Here's that scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwH_qENuuDw&index=75&list=PLJ4mllFovs_QAY7o6ZoCQMdh4bWm2RnXH
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syu_MYjO7tw
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>>379517714
Um... did you not finish high school? How do you not know what that word means?
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What's the reward for Star Door 10? I haven't used Renne since Olivier is my primary caster and I want to know if it's something that will help me before I get to Morgan and Cassius.
>>379517615
>2 enforcers become family
All according to plan
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>>379518352
>360p
So, this is the power of the ps4...
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>>379514531
PARADISE!! PARADISE! I want to fuck all the Falcom green-haired lolis!
Pic related, my current Steam avatar.
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>>379518352
>Randy is voiced by Shinichiro Miki

Oh, so that's why he's so likable.
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>>379518440
It gives her a new S break.
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>>379518352
>Kurt getting up while Juna is blushing at 1:17
Did Kurt and Juna have a moment like Alisa and Rean did?

And I guess Rean's Flame Impact just turned into a goddamn Flame Pillar.
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>>379518493
They didn't want you to get a high res screenshot of Kurt Vander's parents.
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>>379518403
My first language is not English, and i never saw that word before, so i didn't know it.
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>>379518662
These two should fuck already
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>>379518403
In his defense, nobody actually uses that word in 2017 even in academic circles.
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>>379519139
Everyone knows that the word is, the wording was pretty awkward though.
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>>379519775
This is that Nayuta's cat right?
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Here is an article that goes into details about the the returning characters

http://gematsu.com/2017/06/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-iii-details-campanella-mcburn-shirley

>all those Shirley spoilers
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>>379520041
It's a mascot character that appears in different Falcom's games. But yeah, it was in Nayuta as well.
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>>379520430
>Ayaneru voices Shirley
Sweet, even Linne is in my Kiseki.
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Hatesex doujins when?
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I cant believe how you people can play so many games of this shit series.
Dropped it so hard after the 7 chapter of TitS SC, because its pure boredom full of tropes and the most useless dialogues I ever saw in a jrpg
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>>379520982
Eh, to each on his or her own.
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>>379520982
>and the most useless dialogues I ever saw in a jrpg
t. Never played Persona 5

I'll take Trails characterization dialogue over that game's "let's repeat the last thing that happened in the story 20 Times in every scene because lol we all know you're fucking retarded and need your hand held"
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>>379520982
What was Chapter 7 again? Bose?
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>>379521264
Chapter 7 was going to each tower and fighting the enforcers on top of it.
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>>379521318
Oh yeah, I admittedly found that a slog.
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>>379520982
I dropped it after Joshua chose that dumb idiot Estelle. I can't believe someone unironically wrote that stupid incest "romance" into the game and thought it wasn't shit.
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That star tower or whatever it's called where you fight gin/Rixia in chapter 2 was a pretty sweet dungeon
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>>379521572
>tfw got spoiled on her identity by reading the cold steel 2 artbook
To think I could've been taken by surprise if I had just skipped that page
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>>379516793
>Ilya > Rixia
Not even close
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>>379521721
I think Chapter 2 end of Zero no kiseki actually gives a big hint towards it. So maybe it's not supposed to be that big of a spoiler.
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>>379521973
>a big hint
I wouldn't call that a hint, anon.
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>>379521572
Yin, not Gin.
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>>379521387
And it ends with "it was all pointless lol" too. Hell, almost every SC chapter did that.
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>>379521973
Lol it outright shows her changing clothes. That's a reveal, not a hint
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Was Campanellafags really a thing? Nobody unironically like that girl(male) right?
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>>379521572
Zero and Ao's dungeons in general are pretty good compared to the nondescript hallways in the sora games.
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>>379520881
Damn, are they new characters? They look like they need a headpat from Rean
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>>379522303
Was English speakers really a thing? One would think not after reading your post.
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>>379522183
>>379522291
Oh yeah, i didn't remember exactly what it showed, hence why i used "hint". I just remembered it was related to Gin's identity.
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>>379522303
I want to make love to lord Campanella.
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>>379520430
Just wait until the Arios and Ian Grimwood reveal where they'll use that one pic of him holding the gun in the article.
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>>379522437
One is Fie, nigga. The other is one of the antagonist from Ao no Kiseki and Randolph's cousin.
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>>379522437
The one on the left is Fie, she grew her hair out. The one on the right is Shirley Orlando from the Crossbell games, she is Randolph's cousin and a mass murderer, she won't be getting headpats from anybody.
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Reminder that the D∴G Cult did nothing wrong.
Hopefully they return in CS3 to get revenge from Ouroboros.
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The whole auction house section was great.
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>>379505119
To headpat Rean.
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>>379523560
>m
Stop saving Hiroshima's low-res images.
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>>379524248
He has already lost then.
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>>379523996
You mean the entire world right? Cause everyone fucking one wanted them dead. Hell, Cassius, even helped with it 5 years before FC.
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>>379523996
They produced this miracle, nothing wrong with that
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>>379516321
Yes and no. While the reason why he was gone so LONG was because of the attack on the guilds in Erebonia, his first reason for going out of the country was the operation to take down the DG Cult.

He mentions that he got dragged to Calvard when you talk to him on the phone in Schera's Moon Door in the 3rd. Put two and two together. That being said, the timeline for exactly what happened first is a little murky... because in that same call he alludes to having a present for her when he gets back. That could be alluding to Joshua, which would mean that the timeline would be Calvard -> Erebonia immediately afterword -> finding Joshua.
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>>379525380
Wasn't the DG cult stuff 5 years prior? I don't think him leaving at the start of FC had anything to do with them.
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>>379525380
Err, sorry, Erebonia -> Calvard Immediately afterword -> finding Joshua
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>>379525502
Anon, FC's first cutscene is 5 years before the start of the game. He found Joshua around the same timeframe that all of the shit in Erebonia and with the DG Cult is going down.
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>>379525380
The timeline would be 5 years prior to FC for DG takedown operation, then while on a job he finds Joshua.

The letter requesting him to travel for work was most likely the guild stuff remember? That was when Estelle and Joshua became Junior bracers, and way after all that shit happened. Which is why Campanella talks about it at the start of SC, since it happened recently.
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>>379506950
>>379508336
Girls with blue hair and guns are like an electric shock right to my dick. I just want her to steal my sepith and give me a ride on her airship.
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SATTE
SOROSORO IKUZO
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>>379514152
>Starts cutting herself after being used a bunch of times
>Reliable goods
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>>379524467
You know the weird thing, I bet this will happen if Rean and Valimar beat her in a bonus fight or something.
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>fishing is a mandatory quest in zero chapter 3
FML
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>>379527917
Fishing is easy though?
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>>379511037
This character is stupid as hell and hopefully he just dies of AIDS or something.

I'm guessing his stigma is being lit on fire or some shit. I don't fucking know. Fuck off McTurd
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>>379528601
It's fucking the most annoying minigame in the world and way too many games have it. I hate it.
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>>379528770
Dude doesn't have a stigma, it's something else.
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Subbed trailer for the EOPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJMKkFTwQCU
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>>379528992
>360p
So this is the power of EOP... this and spreadsheet
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CSIII will be a craft heavy game, unless Lost Arts is OP again.
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>>379528992
Does this trailer even need subs? There's literally no important info.
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>>379529298
Pretty sure the current trailer that's out is also on 360p but i guess you just want an excuse to throw buzzwords around.
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My dream Trails game:
>Status efficacy probability system from Coldsteel (not just WORK or DOESN'T WORK)
>Quartz system from Zero and older
>Ability to stack any non identical Quartz from Coldsteel
>NO FUCKING MASTER QUARTZ
>No extremely overpowered S-Crafts (I'm looking at you Coldsteel)
>Arts system from Coldsteel (casting turn doesn't consume buff/debuff turn)
>DO NOT HAVE MULTIPLE PARTY MEMBERS THAT CAN USE ACCELERATE TURN or just get rid of that mechanic completely
>Only one character that can do CP recovery crafts
>No crafts that give full shield for GOD'S sakes
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>>379529326
Good, fuck wizards gimme dat phys all day
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>>379528850
I agree with you anon. I always hated fishing minigames I totally skipped the one in Persona 5.
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>>379510129
Yes but then you're giving up the best nuker in the game
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>>379529797
Master Quartz is an excellent system as long as it works like Ao and not CS
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How did Richard end up becoming one of the most interesting characters in The 3rd?
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>>379505119
Making anime real?
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>>379530348
>muh guilt
He didn't
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>>379530348
He was always a good character.

Everything from his coup to his pardon to his intelligence agency. Also his motivation for not going BACK into the military is interesting.
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>>379530348
Character development. It's the same reason why Estelle, Kevin, and Renne are so beloved, although japs like the girls more because japan
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>>379530637
You don't like girls, anon?
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>>379530759
I do, it's just that Kevin and Richard are fairly unpopular in Japan while Estelle and Renne my waifu are near the top of popularity lists.
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>>379524895
I reminded myself that there's something wrong with me:

What happened to Renne's womb? Can she still bear children or was she permanently damaged? Routinely banging a 10 year old girl tends to wear it out.
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>>379529797
The original orbment system gimps physical characters for no reason though. At least there's some advantage to having multiple lines in CS, namely that it allows status effect stacking. Personally I think it should also restrict stat stacking, so if you had a single line you could use one speed boosting quartz and not any other, so there would be some advantage to having multiple lines.

And to me the problem isn't overpowered S-Crafts, the problem is that battles don't start at 0 CP. Because when you have many characters available, you can simply switch them in, fire their S-Craft, and switch them out.

If battles start at 0 CP, at least that power is earned, even with the domination quartz.
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>>379530943
I want to slap that smug grin off of her face.
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>>379531074
Over my dead body
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>>379530989
If you suddenly make CP return to 0 after every fucking battle then you're mentally challenged too. Not only are you boosting magic once again since you're stuck with normal attacks at the start, you are also punishing people for saving up on it for a tough situation.
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Am i supposed to use the viperfish to catch thr larger one? I don't even have a rod that can use it. Making this mandatory was fucking retarded
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>>379531074
I doubt you could, not even Gnosis could stop her from being smug.
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>>379530943
She was 6, not 10, and it probably recovered.
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>>379524895
>Mary Sue
>gets bodied in every single game except The 3rd, in which she's not even the best party member
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>>379523585
Don't respond to Headpat memer
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>>379531287
Use the feather rod with red firefly bait to catch a kasagin, then use novice rod with kasagin bait to catch a catfish
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>>379531393
That's the face of a person who left all the work to her imaginary friends, what a lazy slob.
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>>379530989
>And to me the problem isn't overpowered S-Crafts, the problem is that battles don't start at 0 CP. Because when you have many characters available, you can simply switch them in, fire their S-Craft, and switch them out.
>If battles start at 0 CP, at least that power is earned, even with the domination quartz.
How about just get rid of mid-battle party swapping because that shit's overpowered?
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>>379531549
Doing that only seems to get me viperfish
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>>379531574
Did the imaginary shy boy friend allude that she had to dress up as a boy and do anal?

I love this series. So many questions.
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>>379531897
Worked for me at the eastern fishing spot.
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>TFW Mandatory fishing will make me drop the game
Well it was fun while it lasted
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>>379531262
you can gimp magic very easily by adding more delay to casting time, and allowing enemies to interrupt you so you need physical characters to keep out the enemies (especially since you can link them up), just as an example. And people could prepare for a tough situation by simply using items, quite a few of them restore CP.

>>379531628
Switching them out allows for more variety of battles though, and makes a larger cast more manageable. Personally I think you should be able to have more than 4 player characters on the battlefield.
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>>379532361
>Catch small fish with small pole
>move to the other spot
>use small fish as bait with big pole
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>>379533171
It didn't work. Fishing is BS

Thankfully i could just turn in losing fish and move on. Falcom needs to never do this again.
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>>379532280
Those squares look weird as fuck. Is it with the intention of making it look older or some shit?
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>>379532361
Seriously dude? Of all the times they make you run around and talk to every NPC 5000 times, Fishing is what killed it for you?
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>>379533885
NPC talk is completely optional and there as a bonus though.
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>>379534020
Thanks for keeping the thread bumped shitter
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>>379534256
I'd agree with you, if i had replied to you after 10 minutes or something. But do keep posting the memesona 5 picture every thread.
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>>379530989
Starting out at 0 CP would make the game a slog. I think it should drain over time on the field or something though.
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>>379523560
>1024x723
Time to delete that image and use this from now on, anon.
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Class VII will save kiseki
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>>379534973
They have to save themselves first.
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>Kea's reaction to seeing a car

If she keeps this up, i may not survive the sugar rush. She's so goddamn cute i could hug her non stop.
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So why isn't falcom school subbed yet? It's reasonably funny and short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtCNm7Zr4mE
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>>379535508
Heh the visuals looks better at least. Not at Atelier level which I think they are the best anime looking polygons but close. I still think they should use anime portraits in dialogue bubbles.
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>>379535715
>I still think they should use anime portraits in dialogue bubbles.
You mean like how they did back in Sky and Zero? I agree.
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Quick question about 3rd Chapter. Any ways to change the time in Fake Grancel when it's midnight? Or I'm stuck with ghosts for the rest of the playthrough?
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>>379535656
I think it is subbed. Or at least i found some of the episodes subbed somewhere on a streaming site when i googled it out of curiosity.
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>>379535827
As far as I know, you're stuck in spooktown
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>>379535827
You'll find the knights inside of the castle. Just keep playing and unlock the castle gates.
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best zemurian ore weps to craft for endgame of the 3rd?
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I love Noel!
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>>379536024
Richard, Joshua, Tita, and some other physical focused character of your choice.
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>>379535656
Both g seasons are subbed, check out migo.to
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>>379535656
GO FIGHT
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>>379536632
>>379535849
found it, torret link used to be hosted in nyaa but some other sites had it too.
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Cute
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>>379538028
B tier cute. Pic is SSSSS tier.
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>>379538245
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Why was Aina so cute during her Star Door? She gave me diabeetus.
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>>379538652
She was just being really polite, not really cute.
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>Alan Richard
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>>379538545
No anelace!
you are cuter!
PLEASE BE MY WIFE
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Man i really wanted to kick those two punks' asses as Estelle and Joshua but I guess it's a race instead. Lame.
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In crossbell, even the busses have cat ears. You cannot escape the Misshy as long as you live there.
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>>379540124
A race where you can kick each other's asses is not exactly a normal race. Plus you'll see a pretty nice scene in it.
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>>379540391
>implying that is a bus
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Apparently there's a voice patch in the works for the PC version of the 3rd?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfLZGVssi8&feature=youtu.be

Spoilers in the text included by the way. It talks about the identity of the lord of Phantasma.
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>>379541335
That's pretty neat
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>Implying Falcom didn't know exactly what they were doing with Rixia
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>Tio and Lloyd quiet time
>Lloyd remarks how he had to kick Guy for him to realize Cecil liked him
>Tio proceeds to kick Lloyd
>"what was that for???"

Man, he might be more dense than Rean. Quickly approaching Joshua tier, really.
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>>379542005
Joshua was pretending the whole time though. Lloyd is legit dense
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>>379542005
Why is tio such a little slut
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>>379542005
I like how his denseness is played for laughs properly at least.
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>Lloyd arrests Rean in the first episode
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>>379520982
You and most of us. The only people who are deluded enough to find unironic enjoyment in Shitseki are the 80-90 "people" in the circlejerk threads.

>>379521148
>trying to handwave genuine shit taste with "its just opinions bro"
Totally not mad :)

>>379521465
To be fair nothing about the story or characters are good. It's just a meme series. You made the right choice dropping it.

>>379522230
Literally one of the worst and most overrated games of the 2000s.
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>>379542804
Nothing better to do tonight, huh, kiddo?
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Does fishing in Zero also happen to reward you with good accessories if you fish up a big one fish and get lucky?
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Is it really a circlejerk thread if autists come in every time just to shit on the series?
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>>379543557
Hilariously, it only really started en masse when the PC Cold Steel release got announced.
That's some serious butthurt.
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>>379543716
Hopefully they bring in new fans to make up for it.
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>>379543983
They will, alongside untold amounts of shitposting.
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>You can't just call my master
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>>379543557
>someone has criticisms for your favorite series
>w-waaaah stop shitting on muh fav series ;-;

>>379543983
Shitseki will end up getting the Dark Souls treatment because of this. And it deserves every bit of it.
>games come out on PC
>circlejerk threads bring in PC-only newfags and catch the attention of YouTube e-celebs who try hopping on the bandwagon for a quick buck from their audience of stupid kids
>the fandom begins to harbor every kind of autism known to man
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>>379543983
People like

>>379542804

Would actually get me into this game. Always looking for games away from the mainstream and normalfags.
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>>379544790
>YouTube e-celebs
>For an RPG series that's super focused on story and dialogue and takes for fucking ever to finish

Yeah nah.
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>>379533750
Its a CRT filter.
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>>379544790
The games already came out on PC though, you probably haven't even played any of them, or you only played CS and are butthurt about 3rd/CS3/PC CS1 and 2
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Who gives a fuck about e celebs anyway? I don't care who is in the fanbase as long as they're enjoying the games
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>>379541335
I'm guessing these are the EVO voices? Surprised no one ever tried this on FC/SC.
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>>379544790
>Shitseki will end up getting the Dark Souls treatment because of this. And it deserves every bit of it.
Kiseki was always a PC franchise until Ao and Sen, the 3rd is a fucking PC exclusive in the west.
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>>379543716
Actually there's a reason for this.

Lots of PC gamers get IMMENSELY triggered by anything Japanese. Couple that with the high level of douchebag that characterizes PC gaming and you have a recipe for disaster.

It will get worse.
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>>379543716
As long as there are Reanfags these threads are always at risk of getting shit on, Sen was a mistake.
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>>379521763
>Ilya
>girl

Why do these nips keep doing it? It's a male fucking name, c'mon you faggots.
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>>379511505
yes
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>>379539117
Her animations and dialogue during combat was made me really like that Star Door.

Her reasons were not unfounded for being cryptic about her request with Schera.
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>>379546818
It doesn't like a male name at all? At not the way it's pronounced.
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>>379547250
Its a male slav name.
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>>379547250
Ilya, Illia, Illya, Iliya, Ilja, Ilija, or Ilia (Cyrillic: Илья or Илия) is the East Slavic form of the male Hebrew name Eliyahu (Elijah), meaning "My god is He". It comes from the Byzantine Greek pronunciation of the vocative (Elia) of the Greek Elias (Ηλίας). It is pronounced with stress on the second syllable. The diminutive form is Ilyusha or Ilyushenka. The Russian patronymic for a son of Ilya is "Ilyich", and a daughter is "Ilyinichna".
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In Zero, do you learn recipes by eating them like in Sky? Or do you learn the recipes from NPCs?
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>>379545942
If Neptunia and its ilk can sell just fine on PC, CS has nothing to fear. Especially since it actually looks like a game that wasn't made in the 90s.
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>>379548219
I think there should be a small tutorial on it once you acquire one.
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>>379548219
You have to acquire them usually through NPCs. There are much less recipes overall thankfully but there are 2 variations of recipes you can make on top of the base recipe.
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>>379542005
when does this happen? im at the start of chapter 3 which is around the end of tbr game i think
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Can anybody post the TitS Third chapter character tier list, I never saved it, and I am late playing the game, I just got Anelace.
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>>379548807
Literally before the final dungeon if you get max affection with Tio

>t. chara ending are cancer
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>>379548863
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Estelle and Tita a cute. A CUTE!
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>>379549027
Kevin is definitely Top Tier because he casts Arts so fucking fast.
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>>379549410
He has the same cast speed as everyone else though. You must have him equipped with cast 2 and not on anyone and forgot about it.
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>>379548863
Richard is OP as fuck, Renne is really strong, Kevin is really strong as well. Otherwise it doesnt really matter except for the fact that Anelace wrecks shit for a while with the weapon she gets from her star door (its in the lava area in your current chapter).
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>Estelle becoming more conscious of Joshua as the game goes on
Yes, das it mane.
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>>379535825
That's assuming you have good portraits to start with, which the games (up until Ao's new faces) did. Really the solution would be properly modeling the mouth + other facial features and animating them to match Sky's expressions, but that's harder and time-consuming. This much improvement in a short time is normal and healthy for Falcom, but they could stand to higher more talented artists just for modeling characters.
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>>379549505
Maybe so. He would cast Arts almost just as fast as Richard's crafts.
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>>379549512
Yeah I am about to go into the moon door with her.

In the end of the game you need to have like four different parties right?
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>>379541216
>Implying the Mafia putting cat ears on their bus is somehow better
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>>379549767
>In the end of the game you need to have like four different parties right?
yes and one of the parties must have ries and kevin so keep that in mind when you get to the grind dungeon to craft the weapons.
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>d,g cult is a bunch of edgy atheists
>in a world where niggas can do miracles
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>>379551109
>Jewish alchemists create a cult of atheists as a front to recreate the Treasure of Mirage through Gnosis experiments on children
Really activates the synapses in my noggins
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Will we get a Cold Steel PC release date at e3?
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>>379551109
They're not atheists, though. They worship the D.
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>>379551687
What exactly is the D?
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>>379551796
Find out in the next game Trails of D/Ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKefevuz-k0
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Been thinking of Learning moon, what's the best way to do so?
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>>379552720
/djt/

No memes, they have plenty of resources.

Learn kana, then hit vocab and grammar at the same time. Have reading material.
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>>379552720
Read anything.
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>>379552720
You can't learn Japanese.
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Defense really doesn't seem to scale that well in Sky.
>Get hit by Abyssal Demon with 1200 defense
>18k damage
>Get hit by Abyssal Demon with 2300 defense
>15k damage
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>>379552904
>>379553041
thanks I'll look into those and give those a shot.
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>>379551796
The azure demiurge, AKA KeA.
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>>379553187
It doesnt. Damage stats do scale a lot I think.
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>>379552720
Why does Agate let Tita wear such a tiny miniskirt
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>>379553448
I found that ATS scaled really poorly in the end game in SC in particular but seems to scale much better in the 3rd.
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>>379553995
If you had a cute loli wouldn't you do the same thing?
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>>379554061
Only when we're alone so her beautiful thighs are for my eyes and no one else
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Renne pleases old men for Gnosis
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This isn't the first time I'm being followed by to be revealed as 3rd Anguis
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>>379554408
Not yet, actually.
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>>379554736
I know, I just didn't know how to articulate myself properly
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>>379554821
I mean she's not even a member of Ouroboros at that point. Unless that's also what you mean.
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>>379554408
And she's somehow even more of a shitty person compared to Weissman.
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>>379542005
Surprisingly he's the one that initiates a kiss attempt in Elie's event.
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>>379520881
>Long haired Fie
Glad this short hair meme is ending
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>>379555869
No one is dumb enough to go after Elie.
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>>379556185
Lloyd is.
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>>379555908
I wish Enami Katsumi continue drawing for Falcom. Sen 3 Shirley's face is literally the same as Randy and Ash's only eith different hair style
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>just did star door 15
i obtained nothingess alright
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How did you guys build your Richard? He's cool and all but he chugs CP like crazy and it feels like a waste to load him up on glad belts when I could be I could be upping his atk or speed instead.
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>>379556335
The Tokyo Xanadu illustrator is easily their worst in a while, short of the sameface the Celceta artist suffered from (at least they could do good promo CGs). Enami, the Brandish: The Dark Revenant artist, and even the original Sen illustrator would be an improvement now. Safest bet would be to get the Akatsuki illustrator since they've gotten the closest to Enami's Zero portraits without losing individuality.

I'll also take the promo illustrator for Ys VIII, drastic a change as that would be.
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>>379556646
Give him that orbment where he gets CP automatically at the cost of his EP every turn

I forget what it's called, but I put it on Zin in my playthrough and it worked wonders on him.
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>>379556646
Kitty Suit+Kitty Slippers+2x Super Gladiator Headband.

Even if you run short on CP a basic attack on a Boss will give Richard 40 CP back
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>>379554963
Not really.
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>>379557345
But muh fool's emblem.
How much speed is too much speed?
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>>379557496
Always bet on kitty suit
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>>379556837
I heard the current Sen artist also drew for Ys Chronicles and Ys vs Sora. Thats a huge down grade in art over time.
Yeah would be nice if the Akatsuki artist draw for main game as well.
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>>379557806
We have no way of knowing if it's the same artist getting worse (or just lazier) over time, or if this would be someone new. Falcom also makes it difficult for us to learn about which musicians did which tracks, but we have way more evidence to do that guesswork than we used to.
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>>379557345
I always preferred the Ninja Tabi over Kitty Slippers for my party. They have the same +10SPD but I noticed significantly more dodges with the +100AGL. Though the Kitty Slipper can be useful for the extra move, I had some of my casters at points with literally 0 move without them because of equipping 2 Crimson Eyes.

My end game setup for him ended up being Kaldeio Armor+3, Superior Shoes +3, Tiger Heart, and Super glad headband. He still had 140 some fucking speed because the Kaldeio Armor+3 has +20SPD so I preferred the extra strength +80STR over the 10SPD loss.
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>>379557496
Richard could always use more
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>>379558296
Out of morbid curiosity I wanted to see what happened if I gave him as much speed as possible. I was able to use 5 luminious dividers before his turns even started to get pushed back and 8 before the enemies turn came up, couldn't even use an 8th one because I ran out of CP.
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>>379559810
Why is this guy so OP compare to everyone else? Holy shit WTF was Falcom thinking?
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>>379560967
Who knows the funny part is I could have kept rolling out the crafts if I had just used a CP item or something, I killed the first boss in the abyss not counting his minions before he even had a chance to move.
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Will Estelle invite Josette to her wedding?
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>>379559810
>Spd: 210
Holy FUCK I couldn't break 170 with the equipment I had on him at the last dungeon
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>You get the arena awards again if you repeat them
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>>379559810
I remember someone call him a onion hair or something. Who is it?
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>>379561484
Renne
who also roasts Kevin for having Green Onion hair
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>tfw still haven't finished 3rd
Why did the magic die? I actually paid for this one too
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>>379561484
You might be thinking of Dorothy calling Kevin onion Graham, I think Renne also mentioned Kevin's hair looking an onion.
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Some Falcom's anons are telling me that some Anguis are weak, cannot fight at all and some Enforcers are stronger than them like Campanella or McBurn. But it make no sense, if they are stronger why aren't they the Anguis? Anguis is a higher position right?
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>>379562576
Perhaps they make for better planners than fighters
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Where do you buy more fishing bait in Zero? The guild doesn't sell any.
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>>379505119
Who decided Enforcers titles? Is it GM or Anguis? Surely, it's not like Dominion? I mean who want to call himself a Fool?
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>top 10 anime betrayals

Pater-Mater is such a bro.
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>>379562576

Because, like Novartis who can't fight but can build huge fucking robots, they've got an area of expertise that's more valuable than just power.
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>>379562745

The Grandmaster is a huge chuuni when she isn't busy plotting stuff.
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>>379561570
So that little smug girl huh
>>379561607
I am talking about Richard tho
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>>379562576
In essence, Enforcers are the brawn and Anguis are the brains. Sometimes, Anguis can be both.
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>>379562576
Just being higher rank doesn't mean that you're necessarily stronger, just that you have more responsibilities.

Loewe could kick Weismann's ass six ways to sunday and the guy that made Pater Mater and the Glorious isn't even a combatant.
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Richard version when?
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>>379562745
A better question is who have the most chuuni and least chuuni titles in the series? Shit gets ridiculous in later games.
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>>379562745

Shirley changed her own title to crimson war god, so assuredly they get to decide.
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What would you want your enforcer title to be if you were a dumb chunni?
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>>379562576
I don't think Anguis are chosen specifically for their combat prowess and there are probably various factors in play. The 6th Anguis for example who runs the Thirteen Factories was very likely chosen for his intellect rather than combat ability and is probably weaker than most enforcers without his technology. Then you have someone like Weissman who is certainly powerful even without the Aureole but is show to be extremely cunning and manipulative starting an entire coup de dat in Liberl to accomplish his plans without even dirtying his own hands.

Some Anguis are as strong as you would expect though such an Arianrhod in particular who Wazy comments that Ein Selnate is one of the few people who could match her in a 1 on 1 fight.

>>379562698
I've gotten it all from monster drops.
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>>379518525
>that thumbnail
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>>379562981

Almighty Conflagration is pretty high up there.
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>>379563131

But i want more worms and dumplings, not the fancy shit monsters drop.
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>>379563221
I've gotten plenty of earthworms from monsters.
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anyone else found the final boss of the 3rd underwhelming? I s-breaked with a decked out Richard on a lucky turn to cut the boss' HP in half. And it didn't feel as awesome as fighting Weissman.
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>>379562981
>>379563151

So we got (in the order I'm remembering)

>The Fool
>Almighty Conflagration/Blazing Demon
>Sword Emperor/Bladelord
>The Bewitching Bell
>The Direwolf
>Severing Chains
>Phantom Thief
>Angel of Slaughter
>Black Fang
>Crimson War God
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>>379563392
Yeah its honestly was a little disappointing. Music was fantastic but Genesic Barrier in particular completely trivializes the first half of the fight.
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>>379549582
>Almost no kanji
Why the rest of the game can´t be like that?
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Who is the smuggest character in Kiseki so far?
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>>379563460
Are these supposed to be chuuni Tarot?
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>>379560967
War Hero strength
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>>379563494
I know thats the Vita EVO versions but speaking of Kanji I don't know how the fuck even native japanese speakers can play through the PSP versions of these and read everything. My nips not good enough to play Zero yet without the rough translations but some of the Kanji I've come across thats still in the game is almost impossible to recognize on the PSP's low resolution.
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>>379563460
What about the Anguis?
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>>379563539
Renne easily.
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Annnnnd that's that. Pretty surprising that Zero doesn't have a giant sequel hook like FC or Sen 1. Minus all the unanswered questions about KeA, it seems like a pretty happy ending.
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>>379563539
Renne
Distant 2nd is Sharon
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>>379563491
Also
>remember those uninspiring bosses you fought in the first games?
>well you get to fight them again!
>have fun
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>>379563738
>Azure Abyss
>The Faceless
>The Professor
>Steel Maiden
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>>379563790
Isn't there a small timeskip to Ao as well instead of taking place immediately after Zero like FC/SC?
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How to open Moon Door 5?
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>>379564052
Get all Level 5 Quartz
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>>379564052
Have the fortune quartz, I can't remember where you get it.
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>>379564119
Thats Sun Door 5.
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>>379563992
Yup, its a timeskip of a couple months. It ends up lining up with the construction of Orchis Tower, so Ao starts like halfway through Sen 1.
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So a proper/rough patch for Ao is never ever?
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>>379564651
Post lewd best girl
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>>379564689
I wouldn't say its impossible at this point considering that guy who translated Zero/Ao on a spreadsheet for his girlfriend released it. I think it mostly covers the main story and missions though but the text would just need inserted.
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>>379564689
In the ream of possibility now instead of never ever.
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>>379564763

I don't think there are any Duvalie lewds, Anon.
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>>379563151
It doesn't help that his name is already fucking McBurn.
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>>379564689
yes, never ever EOP... hope you like spreadsheet
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>>379565143
>>379564763
I smell something
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>>379565143
But I hate spreadsheet. Reminds me of my shitty works.
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just like how Tia turned out the be the true heroine in Ao, the true heroine for CS will probably different from the girls that stood out in first 2 entries.
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If say, Ao also got a patch, will that make XSEED drop Crossbell official localization?
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>>379563539
Renne, followed by Campanella
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>>379565351
Crossbell waifu rankings
Tio>KeA=Noel=Rixia=Randy>Wazy>>>Elie
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>>379565523
Why are a little girl and a little boy got to be the smuggest?
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So that's what happened to Garrelia Fortress. Wow.

https://youtu.be/FCoaObCoPhc?t=41m2s
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>>379565460

Well they still bothered with Oath in Felghana after that had a fantranslation for a while. cue angry nightwolve
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>>379565460
No they'd be more likely to license the fan translation like they did with Oath in Felghana and Ys chronicles.
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>>379565759
>>379565801
But that hatsuu whale like to translate and edit Trails game herself right? Beside nobody knows who leak that Zero patch here.
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>>379565523
Lif > Renne > Campanella
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Top three Cold Steel English VA

1. Elliott
2. Jusis
3. Sara

Honorable mention: Machias
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>>379565968
She doesn't do the actual translation herself she mostly does editing. Either way it wouldn't be up to her anyway if the higher ups at Xseed want to use a fan translation they will.
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>>379566084
What about that serial Headspatter?
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>>379566084
>1.
>not Duvalie
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>>379565968
Did she got fat?
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>>379566183
This, Duvalie's VA deserves an award.
>>379566084
>Elliot
Really? I didn't find him all that remarkable. Sara's VA sounds similar to most things she shows up in too.
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>>379566183
This man knows whats up
>upon attacking enemy, add buff to all ally. When ally attack with buff, up to 3 Duvali shadow clone will appear for follow up attack, each clone attack - 15 enemy CP adding them to Duvali.
Maid Duvali is suddenly best girl
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>>379566275
Depends on your definition of fat

Would Hatsuu her Hatsuu's.
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>>379566175
>Headspatter
No one splits heads around here.
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>>379566449
>Aku holding a telephone while laughing.jpg
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>>379566449
WTF? Is that the same girl as that E3 video?
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>>379566449
I want to be Hatsuu roomie
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I bet Lloyd could headbutt a gospel in pieces with this density
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>>379563539
Renne. But that's because Paradise fucked her up (quite literally too).
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>>379566859
He's hyper dense but at least gets it in the Ao romantic endings.
It's the best way to make the party both developed in the main plot but without romance (unlike Sen).
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>>379566859
>>379566859
God that translation is awful.

Desperation really does things to you
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>>379566859
Is the haremshit as bad as Cold Steel?
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Where can I farm Mirage sepith?
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>>379567486
He gets four girls who develop things for him during the actual course of the game without him ever noticing, unless you go for their endings.
They get mad at him for being super dense but that's it.
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>>379567839
Who is the red man?
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>>379567839
tell me more senpai
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>>379567839
Nice spoiler tags faggot
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>>379567929
He did say he's going to shit up the threads with Zero stuff now.
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>>379567980
I finished Zero/Ao awhile ago in nip but I just hate people who do that shit.
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>>379567850
Why can't everyone be as cool as Joshua and shut down other suitors for theur true love?
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>>379567929
Everyone died in Zeros prologue
But KeA manipulated cause and effect so you'd meet with Joshua and Estelle and survive
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>>379567839
I know all that anon, I already beat the game.
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>>379568050
Again as I just said here >>379568036 I already beat them but nice try.
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>>379567980
Guess I should abandon these threads until I finish all five games.
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>>379567980
>muh boogeyman
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>>379568039
Because he doesn't love a girl, while Joshua was full on Estelle.
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>>379568036
Releasing Zero rough patch was a 4D chess move to undermine the actual translation and spoil the best and most awaited game by plebs and completely erase the chances of it getting fantranslated
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>>379568110
Yep, you're here alright. The surefire method of finding out works again.
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>>379568050
>>379567839
>Plastered as fuck right now
>Probably won't remember reading this tomorrow anyway.
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>>379568102
Honestly all plebs should abandon these threads. I suppose moonfags/nip fags were too soft and now the threads are what you see. Garbage
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>>379568312
I'll post it again tomorrow anon, don't worry :^)
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>>379568203
And the paranoid boogeyman poster is here too, I haven't even been in the recent threads because I'm still playing Zero.
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>>379568335
All the shitposting in the world couldn't stop these threads but these kinds of spoilers do. Time to avoid these threads completely after CS3 comes out, as much as I actually want to know what goes down and I probably won't be patient enough for it to come out in english.
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>>379568185
Crossbell was what I expected anyway, after my nip got good enough to actually play them they turned out to be about on par with Sky and as expected they were held on a pedestal because they were Japanese only.

>>379568335
This thread was actually a lot better for the most part then the threads over the last few days especially the ones right after the rough patch came out.
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>>379568425
Good. You won't be missed.

Maybe after CS3 moonfags can have some peace
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>>379568425
Threads after the 3rd release were surprisingly spoiler free or people at least used spoiler tags but I was playing constantly after its release so I was pretty far ahead of most people.
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>Thread becomes hostile all of a sudden
Guess who showed up to shit up the thread.
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>>379568581
Who?
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>>379568463
I'm not gonna argue with you "know enough moon" pleb, but whatever. All I'll ever tell you never really did enjoy any of the games - let alone sky- as well as you would if you had played it in nip and actually understood the language.

So say whatever the fuck you want.
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>>379568581
You?
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>>379568691
The guy on a crusade against Kiseki threads.
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Does anyone have a link to the zero patch?
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Arianrhod voice actor is a mismatch.
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>>379568696
Stop putting words in my mouth shitposter-kun. I held off on these games until I was very confident I could read it on my own. I've been studying for 5 years and have replayed the Evo versions of all of Sky so say whatever the fuck you want. You guys put the japanese versions of this huge fucking pedestal but its not the mind blowing world changing experience you hype it up to be.
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>>379568732
If there's a guy on a crusade against these threads it's deserved. The fan base is garbage. You retards hold a mix of tales fags + personafags type of cancer that is painful and needs to be put down.
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>>379568840
Here: google.com
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>>379568898
Three times he says he's here to shit threads up yet he keeps denying any accusation.
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>>379568732
Kudos to that guy, the trials fanbase is one of the worst on /v/.
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>>379568886
Nobody hyped them up to be like that you fucking pleb. It was all delusional shit, some 3 people in these threads liked those games better and suddenly the whole fan base would echo what these guys said.

You're a new fag for ever thinking this fan base had talesfag syndrome of hyping up untranslated shit. Now kill yourself you fucking pleb. Also the Evo versions of sora are heavily downplayed so underage or retards like youcan read them.
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>Thread quality suddenly goes to absolute shit
Hmm wonder who could be here, well I'm out was a good thread while it lasted.

Seriously you need to let this shit die for awhile.
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>>379569084
Yeah thats bullshit and you know it fuck off Nightwolve.
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>>379569084
>Also the Evo versions of sora are heavily downplayed so underage or retards like youcan read them.
what did he mean by this
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>It's a blame the boogeyman episode
Even the scooby doo gang doesn't blame things on boogeymen. These threads have been trash for a while and one shitposter couldn't make them that much worse.
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>>379569231
One shitposter who usually betides multiple topics of bait.
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>>379569143
What is bullshit? Care to explain? Do you think you know more moon than I do you fucking peasant?

Kill yourself for being the sin that ruined these threads for good, for being the scourge that came along Cold Steels localization.

Seeing the fan base of a series I used to like go to shit because of newfag shitters like you is enough reason to hate EOPs to the death.
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When your threads get those one or two guys who are hellbent on destroying them is when you know your threads have finally made it. Be proud, my niggas.
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>>379569227
Besides Renne's 3rd door being by far one of the best written parts of the series (Japanese wise), the whole script being voiced with even furigana (wasn't present in the original) for harder kanji makes the Evo games a breeze to play over the originals.
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>Sora does plot, battles and characters better
>Zero does music and harems better
Is there anything Cold Steel does right?
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It's /jrpgg/ all over again. You only have yourselves to blame, y'all were practically running a general at this point
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>>379569457
Ruin the fan base of its series completely.
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>>379569457
Breaking itself
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>>379569457
What the hell is Sora and Zero?
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>>379569457
Headpatting?
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>>379569541
I did a search and it looks like they're prequels to Cold Steel, I tried them I dropped them because you have to play as a girl or weakass cop instead of a badass samurai pilot.
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>>379569687
>>379569541
>>379569552
It's amazing how these posts always come in together
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>estelle and Joshua come to just fuck those gorillas up

>that music
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>>379569354
>this is a serious post
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>>379569514
Why is it whenever a thread starts going to shit people mention this general? Nothing that happens here could ever come close to what happened there.
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>>379569918
shut up pleb you will never be welcome in these threads
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>Fie in CSIII

Laura when?
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I have an intense appreciation for this entire game series. I don't understand why there needs to be this huge backlash over people losing Japanese only games.

Kind of like this guy.
>>379570104

Falseflagging or major insecurities aside I think it's pretty childish of you to cling to something this badly.
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>>379569978
/jrpg/ shitposters in its final years were Arianrhod tier stuff.
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And this is why Im staying off internet when CS3 comes out.
>boogyman strawmanning
>while spoiling games for English speakers
Ironic really. Got spoiled on Tokyo Xanadu this way too, but then the story is pretty shit so far at chapter 1 so I dropped that game already.
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>>379569457
It did suffering right, can we all take a moment to appreciate how insane CS went with the suffering of Rean?
>abandoned as a kid
>adopted, never felt like he experienced familial love
>goes crazy with demonic powers and murders a bear in cold blood
>family starts unconsiocly fearing him
>heart constantly weighted down by the fear of losing control
>joins military school and has to undergo harsh combat training
>due to trauma shuts down his own sense of self and desires to act as a helper to everyone in school
>slowly starts to regain his heart when shown love for the first time in his life by Class VII
>gets especially close to Crow
>BANG! Crow is a traitor terrorist, has to watch his friends be left behind in a deadly battle as only he escapes
>is unconcious for month, no idea if they're dead or alive, worry tearing his already fragile heart asunder
>manages to gather them together, things are looking good BUT
>has to watch Vulcan die
>Crow, the guy most responsible for healing his broken heart, dies in front of him
>finds out his father is behind all this shit
>forced to act as his blood knight
>relationship with the people who saved him from loneliness turns sour
>class VII abandons him, disillusioned by his deeds
No wonder he's an emotionless husk in CS3. Talk about punished Rean. Falcom took the suffering up a couple not hes in CS.
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>>379569978
You do remember one of the first symptoms of /jrpgg/ going to shit was the Tales autist spoiling shit left and right to fuck with the "EOPs" right? Where you even there?

Then came the Kat spammer and wiki spammer wars
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>>379570293
He's already getting the copypasta out >>379570341
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>>379570341
This bait is getting pretty old.
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>Rean: I don't know what it is we can do... But there has to be something only we can do... As long as our hearts beat together as one, we can take care of anything the world throws at us... We need to bring back those happy days at thors "military" high school with these hands... Those peaceful days of happiness where our smiles shone the brightest underneath those cherry blossom leaves as we held hands and sang the songs of love... Class VII is not just a class, it's a way of life!!!
>Alisa: Rean... (Blush)
>Emma: Rean...(blush)
>Elliot: haha, you really have a way with words Rean!
>Fie: Rean...(blush)
>Gaius: haha well said Rean!
>Machias: what would we ever do without you Rean?
>Laura: sword...(blush)
>Jusis: that is so gay
>Millium: YAY REAN (retarded face)
>Sara: Rean...(blush)
>Sharon: Rean...(blush)
>Claire: Rean...(blush)
>Towa: Rean...(blush)
>Elise: Rean...(blush)
>Alfin: HIHIHI Rean...(blush)
>prince Olivert: HURR HIGH SCHOOL AIRSHIP! HIGH SCHOOL AIRSHIIIIIIIIIIIP
CS2 in a nutshell
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Can you beat Arios during chapter 4 of Ao like you could beat Loewe? It sorta feels like i could, but i can't quite pull it off.
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>>379570471
I think you can. Don't quote me on that though.
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>>379570237
I had, somewhat, of an attachment not so much to the games but to the threads the way they used to be. That's gone after cold steel, but there was no way it was worse than the Japanese threads.

But you fags made it, and honestly I blame myself and the other guys I knew from 2 to 3 years ago for not telling the plebs to fuck off.

Now you got a fan base famous for being worse than fucking Persona and tales and you had to watch that happen in front of you.

Of course, when you're part of this cancer you don't realize but there it is. It's not so much "I care about you're playing with my toy waah" but you gags being cancerous sub-100 IQ EOP fuckwits ala tales and Persona retards swarming the discussion place when it used to be civil and much much better than the alternative.
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>>379570465

You left out Fast Arts Guy.
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>>379570341
This post is dumb, and so are you. Class VII doesn't abandon him, if you talk to them they say why they're leaving and the one you've bonded with the most in class 7 asks him to come with them or tries to stay. Hell, one of the first shots we see is of him smiling so he probably isn't that torn up.

And even if what you posted was true, it would be small time compared to what Renne or Kevin went through.
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>>379570658
Brother, I was one of the guys posting threads right after the english trails psp release to see if anyone else was on the same page as me that there was something good to be played. The problem is the thread frequency. There's obviously people here that have nothing better to do and it's an inevitable cycle. It wasn't cold steels fault, it was that it simply got too popular, that's all it is.
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>>379570794
>replying to bait
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>>379570465
>that is so gay
I agree
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>>379570801
>got too popular
that was cold steel's fault, dude.
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>>379570341
You laid out perfectly why Cold Steel is the best game in the pas 10 years. The ending with crow was bad but I was literally shaking when the people Rean spent so much time with just up and left him, no goodbye, no see you later, no nothing they just left.
I don't know how xseed will top themselves with part 3 but I can't wait.
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>>379570658
Kiseki threads should have never left /m/. I'm with you even if the whole world is against you, shitposter-kun
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>>379570465
>Gaius
>Not mentioning the wind

This post seems suspect.
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>>379570658
You're on the right track but your post obviously reeks of a lack of too much involvement and emotional investment. It's borderline hypocritical since the garbage you are complaining about is pretty much the bulk of the latter half of your post. You're creating a boogeyman out of "EOP's, tales and persona retards" for no fair reason.
>>379571037
That's wrong, the exposure to the game was initiated with the PC release of FC, most people picked up cold steel after SC since it was the next best thing.

Any hope of a niche and intelligent community died when people thought consistent threads where the same autists bash their heads against the wall was a good idea.

I miss the speculation and discussion, but it's obviously already been done to death, move on.
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Sooo I'm thinking of picking up Ao for the vita and I can't read moon for the life of me, but if I decide to start studying moon, how long would it take to actually be able to fully read and understand the game?
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>>379570345
Dude are your for real there were several classes of shitposters in that thread.

Imagine an MMORPG of shitposters and it had classes. That general had all of them
>western games fag shitposter
>smug anime girl avatar shitposter
>spoilerfags
>wikipedia spammer fag
>nintendofag shitposter
>EOP shitposters
>EOPs falseflagging as EOP shitposters
>actual JRPG fans who hated JRPG players
>ex-JRPG fans who hated JRPGs shitposters

There was more I think.
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>>379571257
Not even 1/3rd of people who bought FC finished it, and way less ever moved on to SC
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So how is Nayuta Kiseki related to the others? Or is it, even?
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>tfw don't want to completely abandon these threads because good threads actually happen without the shitposter around
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>>379570341
>tfw the guy who wrote this genuinely seemed like he was trying to contribute, but was so retarded he accidentally created the cringiest Kiseki post ever
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>>379571417
a billion trillion years
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>>379571558
You do understand that's insanely good for a game that sold as much as it did, right?

You also have to consider that many people just opted to torrent the FC release on ppsspp then play SC via steam, right?

The exposure increased from something that was extremely niche to something that topped the most popular section in steam. You're off your tree my dude.
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>>379570341
>>379571071
Dumb senfags
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>>379571607
>Contribute
>When the copypasta has clear indications on how he didn't even finish the game
>>379571724
Like clockwork
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>>379570870
Based Jusis spitting truthbombs.
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>>379571819
I notice it's always one guy who spouts "based" everywhere.
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>>379571686
That's besides the point. You'd be assuming the worst cancer of this fanbase was attracted by FC and SC both tales, neptunia and persona fags, which you're not going to convince me of.

Second thing is the quality of posters that decreased also as a result of localizations, since knowing moon at least guarantees the poster you're arguing with has a 3 digit IQ and there weren't that many to begin with.
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>>379571724
>Hating on based Rean "headpattin machine" Schwarzer
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>>379571569
No actual connection, just branding and some shared terms (mira, distance/weight units, etc). Falcom could always find a way to imply they're in the same world/continuity, but I think Nayuta was always meant to be a new IP in the vein of Zwei!!-style games before it.
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>>379571892
I'm not going to disagree that Cold Steel brought out the autism in the posters here, but I guarantee they were mostly here, and definitely engaged in the discussion you probably crave now.

It's just a natural course when you have games like cold steel come out, it's going to draw out some huge autism from previously half decent posters. But you can't claim that's where the popularity exclusively came from.
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>>379571810
Actually a lot of people here seem to have the severely mistaken impression that Rean was abandoned by his friends. I've seen quite a few lengthy, otherwise completely serious posts drop the "his friends hate him now" line.
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Do I lose anything for lowering the difficulty of blackjack?
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>>379571870
That guy is called 4chan.
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>>379572078
negatory
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>>379571965
>>379571724
How many (You)s are you seeing?

>>379572025
I haven't seen any actual Cold Steel autism outside of blatant shitposting these past few months, a lot of people seem to be on an agreement that it wasn't what it could have been.
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Enough shitposting, post future Tio
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>>379572130
Have some rean-sensei instead
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>>379572032
That's how you someone is shitposting. Blatantly retarded posts like that are usually false-flagging.
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>>379572126
That's exactly the case. So why are people even entertaining the cold steel shitposts?
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>>379572281
Mostly samefagging, it's the same posts everytime.
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>>379572108

That 4chan guy is pretty based.
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>>379571892
>since knowing moon at least guarantees the poster you're arguing with has a 3 digit IQ and there weren't that many to begin with.
this
after cold steel i think there was some resistance from the original western fans (4 or 5) to keep newfags/plebs out but they were too many and the threads sank soon after.

zero tl leak is kind of whatever given the only people who would play them probably wouldnt shitpost them (due to being a hard fan or desperate)

with the fanbase now rumored to be /v/'s worst (worse than fucking persona), whatever was there to lose was already lost a long time ago
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>>379566449
wew
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>>379572353
Pause.

How did this fanbase become /v/'s worst in the slightest?
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>>379572353
>with the fanbase now rumored to be /v/'s worst (worse than fucking persona)
I never this claim though, I don't get it. The only times I hear this are in these threads. The last time someone even made a thread with that exact same claim, it was even more samefagging with archived evidence.
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>>379572414
This is what I mean by the same damn arguments, every thread, every time.
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>>379572414
Why do you think fans from 4 years ago who were lurking these threads are raging to all hell? Because thread quality went down levels that makes the nip threads seem civil.
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>>379572516
Aren't you enabling that discussion then?

Aren't you part of the problem?

I only have sparsely posted about the kiseki games over the past 7 years, and this is the first time I have ever seen garbage on this level.
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>>379572453
Its literally like one faggot trying to force a KISEKI FANBASE IS THE WOORRRST meme, so pathetic
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>>379572130
She looks cute, hope she gets a headpat in III
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Well, regardless, how is everyone enjoying Zero?
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>>379572587
>>379572453
>>379572414
it may not be the worst but it's pretty bad

i made a post on another board where i said
>i'm sick tired of EOPs ruining the fanbases of the shit i like, in threads that used to be civil are not complete turd

i did NOT disclose which fanbase it was, people replied to my post trying to guess here they were
>Fate
>Phoenix Wright
>Sora no kiseki

and another ones

so yeah, people are certainly aware of the cancer it has gone down to.
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Time to drop this, it was fun while it lasted
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https://qt.vidyagam.es/mnJRDGc.webm

An embarrassed Estelle is a miracle of the universe.
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>>379572694
Roido-san already claimed her headpat man, back off.
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>>379572731
You're definitely part of the problem.

This whole EOP rhetoric needs to stop. I guarantee there are are swathes of passionate players who don't bother to scapegoat and label people who you can actually have a decent discussion with.

I would rather remove you over sen shitposters, you just encourage a shitty place to be in.
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>>379572842
>That filter
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>>379572954
A shitty filter for a shitty series :^)
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>>379572794
What a slut
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>>379572981
So what did the series do to you to warrant this rampant shitposting and samefagging?
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>>379572731
Shitposter-kun may have problems with the way he presents himself, but he has a point.

>so yeah, people are certainly aware of the cancer it has gone down to.
A lot of the new people have considerably brought down the quality of Trails/Kiseki discussion.

Seriously folks, we don't need these many constant threads, discussion gets stale and shitposting thrives. Would it really kill you not to have daily threads for kiseki?
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>>379572919
It would have never been a problem if the original users didn't have more elitism to keep the shitters out.

The EOP rhetoric was underused and the fags that would use it left before trying to keep the sub 100IQ niggers out with spoilers/labeling in order to save what the threads used to be.
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>>379572796
I kind of want more WEBMs of EVO stuff but I can't for the life of me remember which ones I would try to find first.
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Every time a popular game gets translated you have the same gaggle of faggots shouting that things were so much better when it was only their secret club.

The idea that a language major (or god forbid some who just learned moon for games/anime) thinks that they can start dropping IQs is fucking hilarious
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>>379573087
You're a complete dolt.

An elitist community on an anonymous board will only breed more shitposting.

Your understanding of how things work is completely deluded, I bet you won't ever stop this garbage and actually think about what you are saying either.
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>>379573026
Not a shitposter or samefagger, but if I was then I would say it's because you guys are easy to trigger.
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>>379573135
>The idea that a language major (or god forbid some who just learned moon for games/anime) thinks that they can start dropping IQs is fucking hilarious
you know the guy is a pleb at heart when he gives no arguments to the fact he became the cancer of what used to be a good community.
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>>379573264
Once again, think before you type.
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This is the worst thread in the worst board in all 4chan.
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>>379573317
/tv/ is way beyond /v/
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>ywn lick shirley's abs and armpits
kill me senpaitachi
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It's funny to think actually decent discussion goes on occasions when shitposting doesn't occur. Some threads last week were fantastic.

To me, it seems that thread quality is declining because certain assholes want it to tank.
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>>379573237
You're not wrong, but that isn't exclusive to these guys. JRPG fans in general are seriously easy to rustle. I'll come clean and admit I did my fair share of shitposting on Talesfag threads (I'm not the Tales spoilers shitposter though) because seriously, it was just too easy to set them off.

Kiseki fans are in their infancy compared to them, is not even fun to trigger them because of how seriously they tend to take everything.
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All this discussion is COMPLETELY pointless and irrelevant because in the next thread y'all will be taking the obvious bait and arguing with the same old shitposters all over again.
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>>379573317
oh we're in /pol/?
that explains a lot
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>>379573360
I wonder what her ass smells like?
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>>379573429
The way people eat up baits and respond to samefagging, I have to agree.
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>>379573415
Please go away senfag
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>>379573315
that's still not an argument pleb come back when you have one
>>379573210
imho there would be no way of saving the threads even with elitism, the moment a game is translated its like opening a cage of animals
no elitism can save it, you just have to accept it went to shit and move on.
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>>379573360
>>379573453
So this is how low kisekifags have fallen.
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>>379573437
GAS THE KIKES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>379573532
Sorry, I played every game that's out right now. Go post another one of your copypasta so you can samefag that instead.
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this bullshit is actually worse than the usual shitposting. if you're so butthurt then just leave, you won't be missed anyway
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Anyone have a link for the Zero patch that leaked a few days ago? I do plan to wait to see if something better comes along, but figured I might as well archive it just in case everything else dies off and the links become impossible to find years from now.
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>>379573538
I'm the same guy.

You're preaching back to me the exact same advice I gave you. The only difference is I think you're an autistic waste of resources and I won't be back until there's actually something to discuss.
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>>379573673
Check out the falcom reddit page, somebody posted it there.
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>>379573748
>Trailsfags are redditors
Suddenly it all makes sense.
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>>379573814
What's sad is that they have the discussions people here are bitching that don't exist here anymore

They are a pretty half decent group that obviously care about the game.
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>>379573668
>you won't be missed anyway
EOPs don't belong in this thread. Never has. People were too soft on you dogs.

If there's one good reason to hope CS3 is good it to keep the scourge out (99% of you) and the thread can have peace again.
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>>379573814
You'd be surprised how many other series have their own subreddits too.
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Brought everything down starting from >>379564763
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>>379573892
I'm an "EOP" and I was posting about the game far before you. You have a stick so far up your ass you have to be ironic at this point.
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>>379573892

Just go to 2ch already.
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>>379574008
You're replying to bait, by the way.
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>>379573892
i'll never ever leave, nor will the other newcomers who are majority eops. deal with it, you salty assblasted faggot
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Stop replying to bait. If there's a reanfag then chances are it's a false flagger same with senfags, nobody past middle school unironically enjoyed those games. If you see NISA posters then they're shitposting as well, same with the "never ever..." guy.
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>>379573892
>>379573538
>>379573264
>>379573087
>>379572731
>>379572516
>>379572353


This guy?

Yeah I figured.
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>>379574104
There's plenty of tells, honestly.

People really need to learn how to identify and ignore bait and samefagging. I'll give it to the guy one thing though, he's attacking from multiple angles.
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>>379573091
Yeah, I'm making recordings of my entire playthroughs just so I can look through them when I want to rewatch stuff.
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>>379573748
Huh, I actually checked there earlier but didn't see it and assumed they would be too moralfag to talk about this stuff, guess I'll check again.
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J O S E T T E
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>>379574104
>Hating on my bae Rean
Thats a paddlin young man
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>>379574150
You can tell when the thread suddenly got aggressive out of nowhere.
>>379574172
A majority of Olivier's scenes should provide some entertainment. How's Koyasu's singing?
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Ending the worst thread with best girl
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>>379574258
Dumb senfag
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>>379574289
I've only been checking this thread the past few days aside from browsing a few years ago, he's definitely persistent. He's been active in every thread in the latter halfs of them.
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>>379574258
>dumb reanfag
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>>379574247
>>379573748
>>379573673
Managed to find a prepatched .iso, is that the only format it was distributed in? Guess that's ok for now.
>>
>Reanfag
>Headpats
>Laurafag
>Fuck off EOPs
>"Senfags"
>Spoilers
>Trials is the worst fanbase on /v/ guys, you have to believe me
It's funny because he's clearly admitted to hating the series yet he's playing or just absorbing information efficiently to just shitpost even harder, stuff that he actually admits to doing.
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>>379574289
I don't think there have been many scenes of him singing yet. His voice is funny as hell, though.
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>>379574473
It was originally an xdelta but someone uploaded a prepatched one because some people were having trouble patching it.
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>people hating cold steel
So, what have you guys been doing for these past few years? I mean why do you even come to these threads since it's been like 4 years since CS came out and you realized the series went to shit? The next game is CS3 yet you still keep coming here just to bitch and moan how it ruined the series.

I can already imagine when CS1 releases on Steam how these threads will become. Some PCfags will start liking it, newfags will come in and start posting while you bitterfags will just keep complaining.
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>>379573430
At this point I'm convinced it's just 1 guy. No one would take bait this obvious
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>>379574473
Here anon.

https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE
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Reminder to pray to our messiah, the great Rean "dreichels coldsteel" Schwarzer-Osborne
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>>379574571
Aside from one vocal shitter who doesn't even enjoy the series, nobody is going to vehemently say the shit you're seeing right now. Practically everyone agrees it's a disappointment but people are banking on CS3 to redeem it.

Threads are going to hell as soon as it arrives on PC though, that's inevitable.
>>
>>379574571
They'll probably end up as the shitposters/autists of these threads like how Senfags are now. The roles will become reversed. When sen 1 and 2 came out most people loved them. Only now have they came back to shitpost how Sen is the worst thing ever.
>>
>>379574634
>tumblr
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>>379574634
Oh Rean, god of all - grant me strength!
>>
>>379574731
Sen sucked my man, once the novelty wore off so did the people praising it.
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>>379574576
You think he's arguing back and forth with himself? It's possible but there do seem to be some who take his bait and keep taking it every time. We can't stop him but we can stop giving him (you)s at least.
>>
>>379574693
It should calm down in a month or two, but who am I kidding after the PC port CS3 will come out in Japan and everyone will just shitpost harder.
>>
>>379574853
He's doing it right now with the rean tumblr image
>>
Falcom doesn't give a fuck about spoilers, why should you?
>>
Will this be the last thread for Trails at least for now?
>>
I'll stop once hatsuu let kiseki go, shes holding dual audio and crossbell hostage.
>>
>>379574957
Someone is going to make another thread in like 7 hours from now when we only need a thread when new scans drop sometime next week.

Zero/Ao being "TLd" in the most basic means possible also means there's still stuff to talk about but to the detriment of these threads.
>>
>>379574957
Of course not. Expect more shitposting. Next thread in a few hours
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>>379575029
Stop that, you aren't me
>>
Hatsuu is for _______
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>>379574853
>>379574928
I mean, he's admitted to it multiple times.
>>
>>379575101
He's trying it again with the spoiler image there.

Nice nice.
>>
>>379574928
>>379575101
I see, to be honest his shitposts are really obvious so I always just ignore them and whatever "discussion" they spawn. What a pathetic person.
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>>379575098
Fucking raw from behind until she falls unconscious
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>>379575101
>tfw I'm not even shitposting anymore
You guys just need to stop taking bait, I'll be back once I finish zero.
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>>379575139
If you meant my image from Falgaku, sorry, different anon. I just found the casual spoiler funny since I'm currently watching it
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>>379575098

stealing nendoroids from
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>>379575231
Why did OP shitposting his own thread
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>>379575326
It's just that everyone else keeps taking you seriously.
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>>379575346
is ok
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I want to kiss Randy
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>>379575378
Well, he admit he is a troll at least
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>>379575404
And to add to that they keep accusing everyone of being him. I've been accused a few times as well. I dunno why is everyone so obsessed with him.
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Another thread ruined by senfags
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>>379575034
New scans won't drop until July, actually. Dengeki comes out every two weeks and the next issue is all about E3.
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>>379574957
CS3 Hype is at an all time high, expect more threads for the next year
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>>379575527
>Want to talk about Sen
>Can't because faggots like you go apeshit about how bad it is and how senfags are ruining threads
Really makes me think
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yoshua is a fagit
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>>379575524
>I dunno why is everyone so obsessed with him.
His baits just end up going in circles with pointless arguments, just ruining whatever discussion was taking place prior.
>everyone of being him
A number of personas follow his baits.

>>379575629
It's the hair, honestly
>>
>>379575618
>EOP want to talk about shitty game
Nop
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>>379575527
>>379575697
What happened to finishing Zero?
>>
>>379575734
More than 1 person hates Sen though
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>>379575734
I think you're confusing me with someone?
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>>379575697
I hope you've dropped this series then. Going by your logic Sen 3 will be shit and you can bet your ass Calvard will be similar to Sen or will follow another popular trend.
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Literally e v e r y o n e h8s kiseki now FUCK OFF and STOP talking about this stupid series and STOP making new threads REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>379575772
>>379575803
4chan pass in a nutshell
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>>379575819
I only want EOPs gone, I don't hate Sen.
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>>379575838
I like the games, but the fanbase went to shit this past year. The worst thing before were nipfags, but now there are tons of another shitposters.
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>>379575878
I want everyone gone.
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>>379575851
>>379575838
>>379575819
>>379575734
That's all me
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Remember guys!

It's KeA's fault that we live in the timeline of EOP shitposts!
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Why don't you guys just go to /jp/ and talk about Kiseki with other nipfags there?
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*flapping intensifies*
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13145530
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There's no way someone would persecute EOPs but be one himself could there? Or there's one more than chucklefuck actively trying to kill the threads.
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>>379576149
Never underestimate a dedicated shitposter.
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>>379576149
There's just one, but he's also an Anguis and he's not holding back
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>>379574634
Save me from shitposters Rean-sama.
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>>379576114
I'm not even going to respond to this, either result will just feed the shitposting.
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Thankfully I can discuss the series with friends outside threads.
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Reminder to love and peace, baby!
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We should make a thread for actual kiseki fans and one for sen babies, that way everyone would be happy
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>>379576362
This. EOPs need to be gassed.
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>>379576362
isn't that what 2ch did too?
are we doomed to repeat history?
>>
We should all flap flap a lot, that would make everyone even happier.
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>>379576416
Someone people would rather distract others from flap flapping.
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>>379576416
*flap, flap*
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