Magic: The Gathering is becoming an MMO

>>379486637
Makes sense with the world, but man can we get like a really good MTG game?

>>379486637
So is it going to be a TCG like HS or a "regular" MMO set on the same universe?

>>379486637
Hopefully it will be good. I wanna walk around as a guy and collect a deck and not be part of my deck.

It will take years to develop, though, no?

>>379486637
Will you be a wizard playing a cardgame magical battle in an mmorpg setting? If so, I am interested, if not, then I don't give a fuck.

>>379486637
It has potential. Lord knows there is more than enough lore to build around. The magic system could be interesting if you have to specialize around one or more colors of mana.

I don't have a clue how it will look like. Ahhhhhh.

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>>379486637
Dat 50 man raid on the sliver hive though.

>>379487313
>>379487361
>The MMO is actually just the TCG
>As in you are running around as a guy or "girl" playing people at cardshops
>You have to pay for packs like IRL
>Its more expensive than getting a pack IRL

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>>379486637
It will be released at least in 2019, no reason to get hyped

>>379487610
The world boss Emrakrul that takes half the server to kill.

>>379487610
Oh shit the raids could be fucking awesome.

>>379487683
or 15 squirrels...

>>379487620
>The MMO is actually just the TCG
>As in you are running around as a guy or "girl" playing people at cardshops
Yes, please.

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>>379486637

>Cryptic Studios and Perfect World

>>379487774
Enjoy spending real world bucks for packs that cost double the price than normal.

I would still play it thou

>>379487728
There will be no raids. Unless you mean 30 vs 1 card battles.
Because I expect a MTG MMO will mean all combat is done via Card Battles.

>>379487878
No, 15,- a month.

>>379487939
>Because I expect a MTG MMO will mean all combat is done via Card Battles.
I would be fucking mad if that wasn't the case and they just take lore creatures for an WoW clone.

>>379487747
It's only weakness!!!!

>>379488017
Yeah I think everyone expects it will be card battles.

Just 30 vs 1 would be hectic but also epic.

>>379486637

>Cryptic

It's doomed.

>>379486637
>Cryptic Studios and Perfect World

Oh boy. Can't wait for Pay2NotBlowYourBrainsOut to be featured again. Cryptic can deliver on content as long as license holder is breathing down their neck to make it so, but Perfect World's business model is dogshit.

>>379487939
Yes that is what I mean.


>>379487971
Still gotta buy the packs.

I'll need more info before i form an opinion on it.
How would classes work?
1 class for every mana colour?

>>379488064
I don't have a clue. I wanna see some videos right now to see what they are going for.

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>>379488049

>>379488141
>MTG game
>WotC not breathing down their neck

>>379486637
>perfect world

Goddamnit come onnnnn

>>379486637
>It is promising a triple-A game

Because that Neverwinter MMO was super high quality

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>>379488017
Not necessarily. MMORPG where cards play a prominent role in combat has existed. With backing of a strong IP like MtG it can work again.

>>379486637

I heard it was becoming an RPG, which sounded weird but exciting.

However...

>MMO

pass

>>379488345
This was a good game.

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>>379486637
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/magic-the-gathering-mmorpg-from-the-developers-of-neverwinter-mmo

>By the devs of neverwinter mmo

I mean, it wasn't too bad but it wasn't good either, also p2w.

>MtG game
>its an MMO
It's like I live in a universe tailor made to fuck with me.

>>379488672
It was terrible, what are you smoking?

>>379488672
I never really got the p2w part, at least when I played, because literally all of the content until the endgame/pvp could easily be done solo or with uncoordinated randos

>>379488345
But nobody wants that, everyone wants it to be like in yugi, you have your own char and you can go around the world(s) and meet other players to fight on the spot through your planeswalkers playing a game of MTG, that's what I'd say most people would like to play.

>>379488064
>30 burn vs 1 boss
lol you know everyone is going to play either burn or blue.

>>379488742
Are you trying to tell me there aren't other MtG games? Have you missed their annual releases from 2012?

>>379486637
Isn't cryptic known for making generic, shallow, p2w garbage? I have no hopes whatsoever despite me wanting this to be good

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>>379488812
>mfw you bring a chaos deck to the fight

>>379486637
>consoles

meh, look what good that did xiv

>>379488812
>boss is t1 on the play, city of traitors mana crypt sol ring sphere of resistance sphere of resistance
pass

>>379488871
As in a game set in an MtG universe/plane.
Not a digital representation of the card game. Are you a twat?

>>379488790
It was definitely playable I got up to lvl 20 or so but it's also an mmo where I wouldn't invest any time.

Red/White master race.

>>379489041
>he didn't play shandalar

>>379488812
Sorry dude. if its gonna be like that, I KNOW I'm gonna be rocking that sweet sweet mono black Zombie action.

>>379489075
>not playing a u/w hieromancer, arresting pacifying and detaining all black players on sight

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>>379486637
>read title
>FINALLY HOLY SHIT
>read "Cryptic Studios and Perfect World"

This timeline is fucking terrible.

Oh well maybe it will have good character customization like CO and STO.

>>379489140
I mean I probably will too but you know that people are going to come in and ruin the fun.

>developers of Neverwinter
Oh, so the only thing it will have in common with MtG is the name.
Great, I know not to look forward to it.
Just make the suffering stop.

shovelware

>>379486637
Are they making a MMORPG or just a 5 player co-op + queue simulator?

>Perfect World
After what they did to Champions Online and Neverwinter, no thanks.

No more lockboxes

>>379489180
>>379489075
>not black/green

>>379489041
shandalar mate

I guess they figured that because the fanbase was already a bunch of idiots willing to spend massive amounts of money a card game they would be able to easily implement the biggest cash cow scam type of game without having to put in all that much effort.
Hope you're ready for massive p2w that costs hundreds of dollars to even compete and doesn't even get you real world items that could be sold off or put in a collection at a later date.

>>379486637
what the fuck this sounds so bad

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Bet on which plane it will be set, I bet on Ravnica.

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>>379488064
>Yeah I think everyone expects it will be card battles.
hello delusion

>>379486637
Well cryptic was part of city of heros and i wasted way too much time playing that.

Just let there be a commander mode and I am set.

I want to bring in my clue commander deck for massive shits and giggles.

>>379489075
>>379489180
>>379489328
>>379489395
Wait, what if your factions are the Ravnica guilds?

Fuck, there are so many cool things they could do with the setting.

>>379489395
Dominaria if they want maximum troll.

Safe bet is Ravnica, but the issue with it is that Ravnica has enough content opportunity to last 10 MMOs and 20 years worth of expansions, so that's not a good starting place if you actually want to showcase several planes.

>>379489484
Then Izzet it is because fuck the other guilds. They are such shit.

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I hope it features best girl.

>>379489484
there are many cool things they could do with the setting, but my money is on them squandering all of that to make a cheap shit game for a quick buck

>>379489395
>>379489560
>>379489484
you'll probably jump in between planes as you level up.
I'm thinking something like the current legion levelling, with scaling areas depending on your level, so you can come back and fight the strong stuff later on.
still, it's a horrible idea. great card game, great setting and world, but putting it on an mmo would turn it all to shit

>"Hmm what do we want, an actually good digital MtG client, or a shitty MMO made by a shitty dev that will have nothing to do with MtG?"
>"The MMO of course!"

Is this what board meetings in WotC are like?

>>379489647
that's a weird pic of azusa

No gerar, no buy.

>>379489124
>>379489353
>a DOS game from 97 exists, that's all we need
Neverwinter devs fuck off

>>379489705
>"Okay so what do the fans want now?"
>"That? How can we fuck it up?"
>"LETS RAISE THE PRICE OF PACKS AND GIVE THEM ONLY ONE CARD!"
>"good lord Johnson, you are getting a raise."

>>379489385
>we want to advertise MTG to more people
>lets hire some shovelware MMO makers to make a mtg themed one

>want to complain about lootboxes
>Magic invented them in a way

huh

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>>379486637
Wizards having the good idea to make a MtG MMO ten years after MMOs stopped being relevant seems about right.

Am I the only one that actually wants a decent WoW clone in this setting? Worked with LotRO. I loved that game.

who said it's going to have anything to do with cards, retards?

>While we’ve seen Magic games before, most of them have been digital versions of the card game like the Duels of the Planeswalkers series and Magic Duels, a free-to-play game available for Xbox One, PC, and iOS"
this is clearly implying the game will have nothing to do with cards. is the average age of /v/ 15 years old these days?

>>379486637
>Cryptic Studios and Perfect World

So is going to be another free to play generic mmo.

>>379489959
>who said it's going to have anything to do with cards, retards?

Because otherwise it's absolutely pointless and literally nobody will play it.

>>379488807
why would anyone want to play this? the game already exists in the half dozen duels games.

you want a character that you actually control so you have to run around the world looking for someone to duel with? this would be retarded

>>379488797
I played it when it was recently launched so I dont know if this was changed years later but the PVP was pay to win. PVP mode was capture the point mode and people could use their mounts to get to them faster and the fastest mounts were all shop only.

>>379489935
Yeah that is why I stopped shitting on the idea of people paying for lootboxes.

I mean how fucking bad would that look like?

>God you fags getting fucking lootboxes
>As I just bought three fatpacks for three different sets

>>379489959
>>379490113
It even says on the official website that it will be an "Action MMO". How would an action mmo work with cards?

I bet it will play like Neverwinter, which is also a action MMO.

>>379489395
Zones will probably be different planes.

>>379490113
MtG has a better setting than any MMO out there, so the idea is solid. It all depends on the execution.

I don't get it, why are WotC so allergic to technology? Are they really so afraid that a good digital MtG game will devour paper sales?
Because paper sales are dropping just fine on their own, without WotC sabotaging them.

>>379490307
Make it play like Phantom Dust?

>>379489374

It might not be pay to win.

Sure STO has a shitton of pay, but they forgot to add any content to win using it.

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>>379490307
No cards for you.

>>379490356
Wait, sales are finally tanking?

>>379486637
>the game has no holy trinity
DOA

>>379489395
Ravnica, with planeswalking to other places like Lorwyn and Innistrad.
Highest tier raids on New Phyrexia.
Expansions have you time-planeswalking to hang with the Weatherlight crew, shitpost with Urza or watch Mirrodin fall.

>>379490329
>It all depends on the execution.
We already know from who's making it, it will be shit if it's just a generic mmo with no ties to the card game, these people can't even make a game with good graphics to match the beatiful art of the landscapes of the MTG lore.

>>379490410
A neverwinter clone.

Will it use Improbable's technology?


If not, I'm not interested anymore.

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>>379490410
>action mmorpg
I can't be the only one who's starting to get tired of these.

>cryptic
nothxfamalam

>>379490329
>It all depends on the execution.

Is like you are new to MMOs. Cryptic and Perfect World always make the same reskinned trash

>>379490608
I can tell you exactly what happened

Execs at hasbro with no idea about shit decided to brand some shovelware MMO with MTG.

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I WANT TO BE A GOBBO!

>>379489473
This. I wanna play Gisela Angels or Atarka Firebreathing and beat on people.

There already exists a MMORPG that is a fusion of MTG and Diablo 2 which is Guild Wars, this is going to flop because perfect world is P2W beyond belief.

>>379490840
You're already retarded. Just put on some green body paint and you're golden.

I just read up on some of the lore I've missed.

Jace is the new Guildpact? What? Are they still sucking his dick?

>>379490987
Jace and Co. are the only driving force in the lore at this point, they teleport around the Planes being all superhero and shit. Hell, they literally killed two Eldrazi titans using the power of friendship.

>>379488049
>It's only weakness
>It is only weakness

>>379490987
That was awhile back.
Now the story is completely focused on Jace and his friends. WotC tried to jump on the Avengers train and made "The Gatewatch".

They killed the Eldrazi by setting them on fire. Because I guess nobody ever tried that before.

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>>379490987
Pretty much >>379491091

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>>379491091
>>379491194
I just read that bit.

>Chandra offered to burn the titans
>and then she did

>>379491320
Remove the 4 in the foreground, and that's a really cool picture.

>>379491370
But see it was the biggest fire everest, so it makes sense. : )

>>379491194
>They killed the Eldrazi by setting them on fire. Because I guess nobody ever tried that before

Why the fuck did that make me laugh so hard?

>>379486637
>free to play MMO
this absolutely cannot be good.

every game spawned from the D&D universe in the last 10 years has been absolute trash

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I play a basic Swamp and cast Inquisition of Kozilek.
Show me your hand fuckboy

>>379491486
turns out eldrazi titans are made of highly flammable material

since when does mtg have a story? where does the story come from, does wotc make anime now or comic books??? i mean yeah they put a story into the duels games but i assumed they made it up for the games??

>>379490410
There is nothing to indicate that it won't be card battles.

Game will launch with the exact same auction house bug that STO and NW both had that Cryptic failed to fix both times before release

>>379491320
>>379491194
>>379491370
Remember if you ever are dealing with world/reality bending giant eldrich god horrors just burn them. It works without fail.

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>>379491582
In response: one with nothing, eh you played yourself kiddo

>>379491619
>>379491698
I can't wait for the epic ending of the Amonkhet saga, in which Jace kills Nicol Bolas by drowning him in a lake.

>>379487531
>Lord knows there is more than enough lore to build around

Can't wait for them to ditch it altogether and shove a "ur da chosen one xD" story like every other garbage MMO out there does.

>>379491619
I am imagining some fuck with a torch just randomly throwing it at a Titan and it just burning alive.

Thus the said nobody is called a hero, just some fuck who had a torch and was afraid. George, that is his name. Yep George the Eldrazi slayer.

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>>379491627
>since when does mtg have a story?

Since like 1998. Where have you been?

>>379490307
Some cards can be mission titles: Crackling Doom is a lightning-based quest to kill elementals.
Others will be mobs: Grizzly Bears, Lightning Elementals, Raging Goblins.
Legendary and Planeswalker cards are NPCs or summons.
Artifacts can be items or equipment.
Instants/Sorceries can be spell or perk icons, with the UI looking like an expensive card binder. Or you can level to juggle up to 4 casts on cooldown.
Some cards can be achievements/trophies.
Power Nine are cashshop items/spells.

>>379491750
Nah Nicol Bolas is going to die due to Jace by just throwing a random rock on the ground.

>>379491884
idk i guess im not a big enough nerd to know they make novels. i only played the game

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>>379491582

>>379491750
>>379491961
nah, Bolas is going to become the fifth avenger after jace and the others show him the errors of his ways

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>>379486637
>Cryptic Studios and Perfect World

It's another garbage wow clone. Nothing to see here.

Why not just make it like Phantom Dust?

Hell why not just make a single player game of MTG like Phantom Dust?

Where is Phantom Dust 2?

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>you'll never play an MMO for the first time again
>you'll never yahoo the term to even know what it is about
>you'll never read the explanation in complete disbelief because you don't think that a world where thousands of people interact with each other in real time seems plausible
>you'll never feel in shock when you download your first mmo and witness first hand that it was all actually real
>you'll never feel the carefree innocent thrill of going for the first time in an uncharted world with exciting adventures and possibilities you know nothing about because you weren't a wiki guide reading faggot then

>>379489075
That is not how you spell orzhov

>>379492065
What are you talking about? They already have more than five avengers.

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>>379486637
>Cryptic Studios + Wizards of the Coast
This is going to be the biggest fucking microtransaction/DLC jewfest the world has ever seen

>expecting it to have card battles instead of real time combat

How would it even work in a fucking MMO? Imagine a boss fight.

>>379492162
So like MTG in real life.

>>379491964
And things like the Urza Saga and the Odyssey Cycle still didn't clue you in?

>>379492146
do they? well, doesnt matter, nic is going to turn to the good side

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>>379486637

Will Mirrodin be in?

If so, which Mirrodin?

>>379492258
Mirrodin is OK, but I want Esper.

>>379492221
no? what is this?

>>379492201
Exactly

Gimme innistrad.

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>>379492092

>>379486637
It will be an MMO, not an mmorpg.

>>379492464
I know reading is difficult, but come on.
>>379490410

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>>379492135
My man

>>379492197
The same the raid decks worked in the old Warcraft TCG, the player (or in this case npc) boss would have an overpowered deck that takes the collaboration of many people with "normal" decks to take down.

>>379492162
You now realize "RPG" stands for "ridiculous profit from goyims"

>>379492229
Yeah Lilliana and Cat man are pretty much in the Gatewatch.

>>379492258
Mirrodin is gone, please enjoy more New Phyrexia in 10 years after Return to Kamigawa :^)

>>379492464
>It will be an MMO, not an mmorpg.
>It will be an Massively Multiplayer Online, not an Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.
Massively Multiplayer Online what anon? please tell me

>>379488017
It's going to be exactly that.

>>379492669
We'd get a return to fucking Theros before that ever happened

>>379492647
jesus, i totally forgot about ajani
what has he been up to?

>>379492162
>Cryptic Studios + Wizards of the Coast
Now we just need to involve Games Workshop somehow and the unholy trinity is complete

>>379486637
>perfect world

hype gone, they are garbage

>>379492784
Saving the gatewatch and not taking Gideon's lame ass spot on the jacetic league

>>379492784
Joined the Gatewatch in Kaladesh. Helped them beat Tezzeret. Some of them wanted to go fight Bolas, and was like "No, don't"

>>379491370
>>379491320

To be fair, they justify it somewhat in the actual story.

They set an elaborate trap to hold them, they then pull the eldrazi titans into the physical world fully, which is described to fill the entire sky with churning masses of flesh and then the let them consume Zendikars ley-lines but at the moment the ley-lines are inside of them they ignite them, burning up the physical bodies of the titans while pretty much using up all the mana on Zendikar.

Then afterwards Ugin shows up and tells them that was stupid and the whole multiverse is fucked because of their actions.

Not great, but it's better then "Chandra threw a fireball at them" story that people keep telling.

>>379489945
WotC is the king of Slowpokes because they don't apply their market research until its too late
>Superhero movies were super hot
>Now people are kinda getting tired of them, although they still do alright
>WotC makes the Jacetice League way too late

>>379492783
Not after Gideon dies in HOU

>>379492881
>>379492895
so he's pretty much a cuck

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>>379492297

Alara could be an entire MMO all by itself

What races do you hope to see playable? How do you want classes to be handled? I'm thinking you pick a base color to start off with a second color unlocked later, another color can be unlocked when they raise the level cap

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>>379493017
>cuck
That doesn't make any fucking sense.

>>379489075
>not GW Enchantress unkillable combo
>with Wheel of Sun and Moon, Priviliged Position, Sterling Grove, Avacyn, oldSigarda, Leyline of Sanctity, etc for maximum 'you can't kill me ever'

Quick rundown on possible factions? I don't know shit about Magic's lore, I leave that to the nerds

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>>379489075
Mono-black Phyrexia

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>>379493124

Depends entirely on what plane is the starting one.

I'd love to be able to play as a Viashino or Vedalken.
Cloudfolk and Nezumi would be cool too but they're never doing Kamigawa.

>>379493192
no factions, we're all just planeswalkers dicking around fighting evil
unless we get to play as the cards but that wouldnt be practical

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>>379493279
Fight me.

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>>379493192

Magic is about planeswalking between worlds, there are a fuckton of worlds to pick from.
Most likely we'll see the ten Ravnica guilds since Ravnica is the most popular plane, but they probably won't matter that much since you'll be planeswalking all over the place.

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>>379489075
U/R :^)

>>379493360
that would suck wouldn't it

>>379492718
massively multiplayer online battle arena

>>379493360
No playing as the cards or at least the planeswalkers would be a MOBA.

>>379492221
>>379492351
If you played those sets and collected more than just "I saw this deck listed online and bought four copies of these specific overpowered cards" you'd see that the flavor text on the cards allude to a big overarching story on Dominaria that took up the better part of a decade of stories before WotC decided to focus on Jace's Wacky Adventures.

>"Dominarian legends speak of a mighty conflict, obscured by the mists of history. Of a conflict between the brothers Urza and Mishra for supremacy on the continent of Terisiare. Of titanic engines that scarred and twisted the very planet. Of a final battle that sank continents and shook the skies.The saga of the Brothers' War."

>The Odyssey Cycle is "Indiana Jones and the Skyship Weatherlight."

>>379493403
thanks pal

>>379493426

The two faction precedent WoW made sucks.

Way more fun for players to make their own allegiances are fight among themselves.

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>>379493406
B/G ;)
>>379493426
would be a clusterfuck

>>379493594
>implying that would stop anything game 2 with glorybringer and thing in the ice, if it even resolves

;)

You must reply to this post if your local gamestore is called Dominaria

>>379487620
I don't care if you're joking or not, I'd be 100% down with this.

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So Kamigawa sounds like a decent place to have an expansion at least right?

With playable Ratfolk hopefully.

>>379493594
Oh that is from the new set right? Got the card in english?

>Console MMO
Woah, it's fucking nothing.

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>>379493379
Sure.

Not to start a dick-waving contest, I've always been a red/black player. Black was amazing during Phyrexia though, Vault Skirge, Obliterator, Sheoldred, Skittles, Phyrexian Crusader.

>>379493192
The players are definitely going to be Planeswalkers, beings from MtG lore that can move between worlds, or "planes". Planeswalkers are incredibly rare. Something like 1 in a million people have the spark to become a planeswalker in them, and out of those potential PWs, 1 in a million actually DO ignite their spark.

So there's not really any Planeswalker factions. They're just too rare. Right now the story is focused on a group of Planeswalkers dubbed "The Gatewatch", but they're just 6 people who decided to deal with the biggest threats in the multiverse before they got out of control, not really a faction of any sort.

It's possible they may create factions around the most powerful Planeswalkers, though. Maybe you'd do the bidding of the cruel dragon Planeswalker Nicol Bolas and reap your own personal gain. Maybe you'd stay neutral and help Ugin unlock the mysteries of the multiverse. Or maybe you'd join up with Karn and try to push back the encroaching evil of the Phyrexians.

There's a lot of potential. MtG's lore is actually really cool, despite the actual writing for most MtG stories being between "kinda okay" and "really, really, really bad".

>>379486637
omg i want to meet nico bola

>>379493017
>Not wanting to follow around a sperg, a slut, a womanchild, an autist, and a moralfag makes you a cuck
Shut up

>>379493745
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=dispossess

Basically every time control plays black, we count on this getting sided in. It's also really good against Marvel.

>>379493839

>So there's not really any Planeswalker factions. They're just too rare

There's canonically been several planeswalker factions.
Tezzeret had a huge network with planeswalkers from hundreds of worlds at one point.

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>>379493745
>>379493691
blue doesn't deserve titi
also is glorybringer even that strong?
I could just hexproof it away

>>379487620
>don't have to go to the card shops and see nerds with rotting teeth and pit stains to their knees
thank fucking god

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>>379493874

Don't talk shit about Lili.

>>379494008

Must suck living in the US.

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>>379490410
>Perfect World Action MMO

>>379493839
I can't wait to be done with the fucking superbestfriends magical travels bullshit, it's the same fucking story every time too
>Investigate threat
>Threat appears
>Situation escalates
>New alliances are formed
>Situation gets resolved
>But wait- on the horizon!
>Tune in next time!

>>379493946
The Consortium was pretty much the one exception of an actual functional faction that I'm aware of. Planeswalkers have teamed up before, but the Consortium was the only thing that really resembled some kind of guild.

Even then, it wasn't really a faction, it was more Bolas making people his slaves without them really realizing it. Then Tezz hijacked it and turned it into a somewhat real organization for about 10 minutes and got his brain crushed for it.

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>>379489395

>Tfw its innistrad

>>379493710
I think everyone would be down with that.

>>379493740
>Rat tits
God damn it not again.

>>379493874
Which is Nissa out of those? I mean Jace pretty much covers sperg, autist and moralfag all at once.

>>379493997
If we're talking standard, Glorybringer is amazing against resolved planeswalkers or various other threats. Against planeswalkers you can use the exert effect to kill off a possible flying blocker and attack that resolved Gideon, or point that creature that has a nasty effect (like Lord of the Accursed in the zombies matchup).

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will this game to be good?

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>>379494172

The only bad thing about Innistrad is that it's mono-human.
Otherwise it's pretty cool, and the Eldrich Moon is actually a pretty cool addition.

>>379494172
What's wrong with Innistrad? I liked the idea of shit just going insane

>>379493839
It could be like DCUO where you choose a planeswalker to have as your mentor, and then you get to be whatever horrible abomination you make in CAC.
I really enjoyed that aspect, getting missions from Batman or Lex Luthor, but in this case it'd be Jace being a condescending asshole or Garuuk grunting at you.

>>379494030
>Lili and Nissa get models
>SFM porn gets made
Fucking christ my dick just burst through my pants.

>>379494468
>Not wanting to see people fuck the crazy out of Chandra first and foremost

>>379494396
Innistrad is almost as fucked as Zendikar or Mirrodin are, if you're fans of those.

>>379494530
Chandra is fine, just give me Nissa and Lili first.

>>379490356
Wait is this a games-workshop syndrome?

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>yfw the Optional boss is Gix

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>>379494468

I wouldn't mind some Tamiyo smut myself.

>>379494560
Artifact is garbage and Zendikar is overdone and mostly boring as fuck, not to mention it's where the horrendous concept known as the Gatewatch started so fuck that place.

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>>379486637
>it'll be ANOTHER Everquest/ WoW clone.

SO HYPE RIGHT GUYS!!!!!!!!

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>That Brother's War flashback

>cryptic studios and perfect world

So they're going to recycle the same buggy plastic looking shitty model and physics engine they used for all their other games?

>the big day finally comes Mtg mmo is here!
>you install it, boot it up, ready to explore the wonders within
>character creation is a marvel, so many sliders to play with, you choose a starting colour with the promise of choosing more later
>an intro plays, speaking of the wonders you are about to behold, the mysteries to explore, horrid you will face, the untold majesty awaiting you!
>this is it, you are in the game!
>Jace is standing before you
>"Fantastic! A new Planeswalker spark has awakened. No doubt you are eager to test your new powers and explore the wonders of the planes"
>"Go kill 6 boars"

>>379494658
What? Why? What part of it is even sexy?

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>>379494853

All of it.

>>379494837
>Not uninstalling the moment Jace's faggot face comes up

>>379494560
I wish WotC would stop doing the thing where they nearly destroy a plane every block. Kaladesh was refreshing because it was just a political conflict.

Mirrodin is gone. Zendikar is basically gone. Probably at least half the people of Innistrad are now piles of mutant flesh. Amonkhet is going to be completely razed into a zombified desert, by the looks of it.

An occasional plane destruction is fine and interesting, but man. It's starting to get old. Despite liking Kaladesh, it actually felt kind of out of place because I was so used to literally the entire world ending in some plane-wide battle. That's starting to become Magic's bread and butter.

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But will i be able to have MAXIMUM FUN?

>>379494881
I mean sure everything can look sexy if you draw it with big tits and nice curves but actual Tamiyo is like a freaking cylinder, no curves or tits to speak of.

>>379494942
That's what happens when your franchise is 25+ years old.
The idea well runs dry, and you start recycling the same shit over and over again.

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>>379495039

All the Moonfolk are fucking top-tier anon.

>>379494939
You know it will be the first in game face you see

>>379487797
I was excited until I saw that.

>>379486637
They killed Sorrin. I will never forgive them.

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>>379494997

Azorius is best guild.

>>379486637
So is there going to be 5 factions or what?

>>379495231
Sorin is alive, he's just noclipped into a rock.

>they give a free range character creator like in Champions Online

>MtG is full of hyper knotted dogcock psychic space futas

>>379495231

Sorin is alive dawg.

Nahiri left him imbued in a wall so that he could watch his plane die, but then it didn't.
I think Olivia Voldaren has him right now, Jabba the Hut style.

>>379495357
>>379495372
Dont vamps need to chow down on humans every month or so? Is he in stasis while in the rock or is time passing for him? because if it is then he's dead

>>379495372
Why is Nahiri so best though?

>>379495473
Sorin doesn't need to feed, IIRC.

>>379494119
i dont, im a leaf

>>379495473

Sorin regularly take entire decades to just meditate.
He's stupid powerful.

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Simic and Izzet are best girls. Literally no competition

>>379495631
True, neither of them can compete with Boros.

>>379486637
retards, just make good single player game like Magic from 1997.
http://www.abandonwaredos.com/abandonware-game.php?gid=1967

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>>379495538

>I'm mad at Sorin
>I know! I'll destroy his plane
>That'll show Sorin his evil plane-destroying ways

She dumb.

>>379495538
>as part of locking the Eldrazi on Zendikar, Sorin promises to help deal with repercussions
>repercussions happen
>"lmao fuck you not my problem maybe i'll help in a few centuries when i'm not busy"
>throws Nahiri into a fucking never-ending void for centuries while the Eldrazi rape her planet
>Nahiri gets out
>immediately draws the Eldrazi to Innistrad
>"Whose problem is it now?"

I mean technically she murdered millions of innocents on Innistrad just to get back at Sorin, but man did he deserve it.

>>379495917

Sorin literally didn't hear the call though.
When he heard the call the second time he raced over there to try and solve the problem.

His only real crime was locking Nahiri in the vault, but to be fair, she was being a bitch.

>>379495849
>Crazy does crazy
Seems fair, still best.

Also
>Teach someone the pain of loss so they know not to inflict it
Actually surprisingly reasonable, what's the problem here?

>>379495917
>implying Nahiri wasnt dangerous as fuck
Sure he could have handled it better but it wasnt his fault her message didnt get to him. But then again she didnt do anything either since she was working on oldschool planeswalker rules where blowing up planes is just a prank bro.

>>379496093

>what's the problem here?
Millions of dead innocent lives?

>>379494658
My fellow negro

>>379496184
Still not following you mate, place was a breeding ground for vampires, furries and all sorts of horrid shit.

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>>379496303

And innocent humans fighting against the darkness.

Also a bunch of nice angels.

>>379495849
Name one Walker that's ever made a good decision.

>>379496303

This

Are people gonna pretend that everything on Innistrad was hokey pokey fine before Emrakul turned up?

>Kaladesh's plane's signature identity is about invention, ingeniuty, ideas and capitalism and all that shit

>Innistrad's plane's signature identity was everything is fucking terrifying and wants to murder you

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>>379496443

Dack Fayden

>>379496090
By "raced over there", you mean literally waited hundreds of years, went and told Ugin what was happening, and then stopped caring and fucked off back to Innistrad to try to shield it from the Eldrazi so they wouldn't come there after they ate Zendikar.

Sorin doesn't give a shit about anything but himself and his plane, and he paid the price.

>>379496124
She was "dangerous as fuck" because he told her he wasn't going to follow the vows he pledged when sealing the Eldrazi on Zendikar. She was going to beat his ass and drag him back to Zendikar to fix the problem with her. Sealing her away in total isolation forever with only howling demon souls to keep her company is not an appropriate response.

He deserved to lose everything.

>>379496552

Sorin went to Zendikar once he heard the call, tried top fix it on his own but then Nissa fucked it all up, then he went to go tell Ugin.

He's not the best, but he upheld his end of the bargain.

>>379496421
I mean, my favorite card of that plane is Brisela, voice of nightmares, so there's that.

>>379496510

>Poor people live tough lives
>So it's okay to murder them

>>379495473
Sorin is the OG oldwalker vampire, he doesn't need shit

>anything good about neo-walker drama plots and angst

Nope. It's going to be trash. At least urza and the bunch acted like gods rather then highschool teens.They almost had somthing with the other MMO where it was similar to early might and Magic combat, but of course the Jews made it a cash grab.

This is a case of "there's so much lore it just won't be possible to cover.". Your going to have either a completely butchered lore game, or "we did our own interpretation" garbage.

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>>379496743

Merge was a shitty mechanic.

Cool flavor though.

>>379496443

Chandra burning the titans

>I'll use fire! Thats a good trick

>>379494468
>>379494658
>>379495110
>>379495631


>No Atraxa, Sheoldred, Elesh Norn, Nahiri, Gisa, Jeleva, Drana, Marchesa, Bloodbond Vampire, Gisela, Teysa, Archangel of Tithes, Avacyn, Anafenza, Thalia, Saffi, Bastion Protector, Elspeth and several dozen others
great now I have to jack off

>>379496443
Tamiyo?

>>379496443
Ral Zarek

>>379496872
I like flip mechanics in general and merge is just an extension of that, needed more viable merge cards though as you can't really do shit with it except have one or two merge cards in a full deck.

>>379496665
If he REALLY upheld his end of the bargain, when Ugin told him they needed Nahiri to reseal the Eldrazi, he would've let her out.

But he didn't. He said "fuck that plane and all its people, the Eldrazi can go free, I just gotta make sure my plane isn't on their menu".

He gave a token effort hundreds of years after he knew the problem started. He did the immortal equivalent of seeing a fire start in the kitchen, lazing about until it consumed the entire house, and then finally sighing and throwing a cup of water at it and shrugging when it didn't work.

>>379496942
Eventually anon, eventually.

>>379496862
To be fair they have enough material for expansions to last till the heat death of the universe at this point.

>>379497070

It wasn't hundred of years after it started, the first breech was handled by Nahiri, he went over the Zendikar as soon as it flared up again.

But yes, it was definitely a token effort.

>>379493379
This sounds busted as hell.Am I wrong?

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>>379496750

Nahiri : Glad you could make it, Sorin.
Sorin: Watch your tone with me, Kor. You may be a bitch, but I'm still your superior as a planeswalker.
Nahiri: As if I could forget. Listen, Sorin, there's something about the plane you should know. Oh no. It's too late. These people have all been eldrazi'd. They may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they turn into the blobs.
Sorin: What?
Nahiri: This entire plane must be purged.
Sorin: How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way

Nahiri: Damn it, Sorin. As your future queen, I order you to purge this plane.
Sorin: You are not my queen yet, kor. Nor would I obey that command if you were!
Nahiri: Then I must consider this an act of treason.
Sorin: Treason? Have you lost your mind, Nahiri?

Nahiri: Have I? Lord Sorin, by my right of succession and sovereignity of my crown, I hereby freeze you in carbonite and suspend your vampires from service.
Jace: Nahiri, you can't just...
Nahiri: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this plane, follow me. The rest of you... get out of my sight.
Sorin: [Muffled Angry Shouting]

Nahiri: Jace
Jace: I'm sorry, Nahiri. I can't watch you do this. [Turns 360 degrees and planewalks away]

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>>379496942

You got a couple in there, but missed the better ones like Glissa, Freyalise or Elspbeth

>>379496942
>Realize how much SFM you can do with MTG girls
Fucking christ move over Overwatch.

>>379497305
It's strong, but 5 mana is a lot. Especially for a card that screams Aggro.

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>>379497305

It's really mediocre for a five drop.

There are better ways of getting those effects.

>>379497305
For mono-red it's usually too slow, he had a place in green/red though, where green can ramp up and pull him out for a one-big-swing kill.
At least that's how I remember him when he was standard, I doubt he has a place in any of the extended formats.

>>379497305
Too slow for aggro, too late for the tap mechanic to be particularly relevant, it's not a bad card but it's not amazing either.

>>379496872
>3 melded creatures in the set
>1 at common
>1 at rare
>1 combines a rare and a mythic
would've been so much better if they printed a few more, preferably at lower rarities or cost. Interaction with melded cards is hilarious

>>379497563

But they are so fucking shit to play with, too goddamned big.

>>379497495
The nonbasic land thing is surprisingly relevant too.

>>379497548

There's a dedicated green/red card for it now, comes with flash as well and has double strike so you can throw it out at the end of your opponents turn and then combo.

>>379497563
The problem is they have a limited amount of double-faced cards they can print per set, and Meld cards each consume 2. We only got 3 melds, but they took the place of 6 other flip cards.

I think if they ever bring it back, it'll have to be the focal point of the whole set to really get any more than two or three cards.

>>379496872
my god I love everything about Brisela.

I love angels, I love flip cards, I love my angels that flip into a bigger angel.


I am such a fucking timmy for angels.

>>379497706
Lovely. I enjoy power creep, non-sarcastically. I like seeing 1 or 2 cards that come in and say "I'm pretty damn good".

>>379497305
In regular decks, it's pretty slow for red. R/G would like it though if you could ramp it or cheat it out early. But if you build around it you may find yourself disappointed.

It's been a while. Wasn't he the worst preator? Blue countered first spell I think? Green fucked mana, black had a crazy sacrifice engine, and elsh norn was just fucking bonkers. A permanent sweeper.

Really red was weak compared. It did not protect itself, it did not change board state, and only worked against other creature decks.

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>>379496942

No Vraska?

>>379497947

Blue was way better than that.

Red was probably the worst.

>>379498000

Baby, I'm already rock hard!

also >trips

>>379497947
Jin-Gitaxias (blue) had flash begging of your end step draw cards, each opponents max hand size is 0.

Game ending, but also (8)UU

>>379497860
We really need some kind of lesser angel shits so you can finally build a proper full angel deck.

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>>379498156

Imagine the things she could do with those tentacles anon.

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>>379496942
i got you

>>379498218
I am really hoping one of the new tribal commander decks will be angels.

>>379498000
Going to need some lesbian sex between Vraska and Nahiri.

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it will be another fucking wow clone

>>379498127
>>379498185
That's right. He was great but really had to be cheated out or go heavy stall. I think there was some kind of elvish piper mechanic in that set too. I know preators were present in the meta somewhere
>poison rush days
Maybe it's best I forget. Sick of that shit.

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>>379498234
>>379498310

>>379487620
>>379487774
>>379493710
>tfw the old Duel Masters GBA games were just this
One of the comfiest games I've ever played.

>>379498478
Yeah but the porn boon.

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>>379498323
I need more zombies. And Goblins.
ZOGOS!
Made a zo-go deck for FNM fun matches, hilarious. Dralnu's crusade and Deadapult to fling zombies for value.

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>>379498331

You're not being creative enough.

Imagine Akroma X Plane-shifted Akroma.

>>379493839
desu the only way this would work should be like eve, sandbox constant free for all where the PWs (players) group up whenever needed but that otherwise can fight each other at any moment.

>>379498697

Where did the idea that MMO's HAVE to have factions come from?

It's annoying and ruined Age of Reckoning.

>>379498651
>New set has a bunch of white zombies and pretty decent synergy
>Using the white zombies in an actual zombie deck is the worst way to use them, they work far better in token decks and the new black zombies work better with blue/green as well

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>>379487747
magic squirrels are like tree-climbing pitbulls though

>>379498802
It's a concept that's important for PvP, but in reality it never really works.

Even WoW the factions are just senseless dickwaving competitions that end up tipping the PvP balance one way or the other server to server.

Also leads to the plot inevitably going full retard as increasingly asinine excuses need to be brought up to "unite factions against big world ending bad" only to then "oh but suddenly and/or despite everything the two factions are now massively at war again :^)"

>>379498802
dunno where it started but wow definitely popularized it.

>>379486637
mmo card game?

what type of mmo is this.

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>>379498832

There's W/B Zombie decks in the pro-tour.
You're talking out of your ass.

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>>379499156
Think Yu-gi-on duel disk battles but instead of using technology you use magic and the memories of the places and people you've seen and experienced.

>>379491101
What is ownership

>>379499240
That's a nice zombie, I haven't been keeping up, any good demons? I remember them going from "Take 2 damage for a 6/6 at 4CMC" to good stuff like Abyssal Persecutor and better.

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>>379499402

This dude is a fucking beast in limited.

>>379499240
Can't say I've seen them.

>>379498697
And the more about I think about this sandbox thing the more it makes sense, imagine being able to trade/sell/acquire/produce abilities/skills a.k.a the cards, it would work flawlessy except that costing real money it would be done through in game currency.

>>379499491
Jesus christ, what a draft card, interesting to see cycling back, great value mechanic.

>>379491619
Indestructible means destructible? What a plane!

>>379499491
That card is fucking broken in general, not sure if that or glorybringer is the most broken card in the set (imo)

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>>379499507

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/644803#paper

There's only two decent white zombies, not counting embalmed, but they both see play.
Wayward and this.

I miss the MTG books. Silly fun reads.

>>379499614
Indestructible means you have to burn it straight into exile

>>379499682

I've played against it in constructed, was shit.
Huge cost + does nothing until next turn if you have the right cards in hand.

Now Glorybringer is a fucking beat down.

>>379499708
Yea pretty much what I thought, 2 white cards are viable in B/W zombies and one of them is multicolor.

>>379499614
>>379499812
>>379491619

Wasnt the whole thing with the titans

>Oh no they are indestructible intangible beings we cant kill them with traditional means

>....so what if we just made them tangible then killed them with traditional means?

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>>379499589

The whole set is actually amazing to draft.

Fun as fuck.

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>>379499682
>MFW whenever I am drafting and find out someone gets glorybringer
Holy shit, who okayed that card.

>>379499995
Yea, obviously nobody would have tried something so ingenious before... The whole problem there is that it retroactively makes all other planeswalkers involved with the Eldrazi look like complete drooling retards.

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>>379500116

You just got to have the right answer.

>>379500213
Ah yes, just be sure to always sit on 4 mana just in case your opponent pops out a glorybringer next turn. Otherwise you'll take 4-8 damage and trade a card just for removing it which is a horrible trade.

>>379486637
Never played and only know the bare minimum about Magic: The Gathering, but seems like it could turn out cool.

>>379500213
If nothing else that card just demonstrates how broken Glorybringer is, because Glorybringer basically does the same thing but is also a 4/4 with haste, for only 1 mana more, and the damage can occur several times.