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>5 days
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At this point I really don't know if you're memeing or seriously retarded but just to set this straight: MGS V is not unfinished. There is no Chapter 3. Some people were just butthurt because of KOJIMA's CREATIVE DECISIONS and the rest of us took advantage of it and memed like crazy.

There is nothing more. MGS V is a complete 40 hour game.
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With every passing day non-believers get more and more scared.
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>>379483387
bumping ruse threat
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>>379483592
I'll have you know V is a 50+ hour game
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>>379484279
>believing
I bet you believe in liberalism and god, naive retard
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what will you cringelord autists do after e3 is gone and there is no fucking EEEPIIKKK RUSE XDDD ?
will you do a collective suicide stream?

deal with it, kojima fucked you with V. it is unfinished, there is no ruse, there is no secret theory, there is NOTHING.
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>>379484279
go to be attentionwhore somewhere else
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Reminder that the inside of the mountain base is in the game files. It's all there. It's where we'll be going.
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>>379485042
i hope so
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>>379483387
THIS WAS JUST POSTED

REAL HUMAN BEAN CONFIRMED
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>>379485042
>that (((nose)))
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>>379485202
>Ryan gosling in DS
Jesus christ
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>>379485243
No, Ryan Gosling is in Drive.
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>>379483387

Okay, two scenarios:

1. The Ruse cruise is not real.
>The 500 or so people still on the cruise are disappointed.
>Kojima and Konami are doing exactly what everyone thinks. Death Stranding isn't MGSVI or whatever you think it is. There is no part 3 to MGSV, they were working on it, but didn't finish it.

2. The Ruse cruise is real
>Considerable funds, the reputation and credibility of vast numbers of journalists, as well as Konami, Kojima, Sony and just about everyone ever involved in this circle in the last two years have expended considerable effort maintaining the ruse cruise.
>We all have to go back and play MGSV, to see the real ending, a lot of people don't even bother. No new sales are generated because this, or considerably negligible sales.
>Death Stranding is MGSVI, surprising nobody, the announcement of a new metal gear game has exactly the same effect as it would without the ruse cruise.
> 500 people are delighted and enthused.

Honestly, I would love the cruise to be real, but now mostly because it would be definite proof of divine intervention, because no mortal man could possibly make so convoluted and pointless an experience available to mankind.
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>>379483592
>MGS V is not unfinished.
>There is no Chapter 3.

Doublethink presentation?
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>>379485202
>We want the fujoshi audience
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>>379485202
>We sorry we no have Dessu Strando trailer
>But we wood rike to announce Ryan Gosring joining Norman in Za game
>SANKS U
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>>379485042
>kojima fucked you with V. it is unfinished

Yes on the first and no on the second. V is not unfinished, Kojima made the decision to end the game with a flash forward. That's it.
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>>379485032
Believing in the ruse(at least partially) is becoming similar to believing in gravity.
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>>379485032
>liberalism and god
>names one thing that's real
>names another thing that it unprovable either way

What did he mean by this?
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>>379485497
>If I vehemently deny the ruse cruise I can fly.

HOLY SHIT
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>>379485497
We'll it's a good thing gravity is all in your head.
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>>379484279
>Kojima productions is not registered

But this is false New python and Selkan video shows the documentation.

You should update your shitposting image.
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>>379484279
>non-believers

You sound like a delusional cultist (which you are) you fucking faggot. I'll be the first making threads calling for a live stream of your suicide when E3 finally passes.
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>>379485202
If Ryan Gosling shows up with Kojima I'll be floored
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>>379485776
Oh hey! It's the suicide faggot. Tell me faggot: Are YOU going to stream YOUR suicide when wrong?
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>>379485623
We are those who play, anon.
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>>379485776
>implying Caramel isn't going to just delude himself into believeing that it was all just trolling and he never actually believed in the ruse cruise
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>>379485902
>mong dick

Uh oh
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The "V is not finished" meme is probably a result of the fact that MGS is an old series and it got a lot of new fans lately who fell for the hype of the franchise but their expectations were not met. So they started making shit up.

Kinda like Dark Souls fans who also fell for the hype and the meme "2 deep 4 you" and came to the series late and started making up shit how the lore is super complex and elusive when it's pretty simple.
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>>379485898
>>379485776

Guys guys, c'mon now let's tone down the hostility. I know you're both passionate about your causes, but really why do only one of your groups have to kill yourselves? Why not share in the duty and make all of our lives better?
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So caramel-kun, you in for some easy money?

If your ruse happens, I pay you 2000 burger money, if it doesn't, you pay me 1000 burgers.

You in?
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>>379486056
Deal, please screencap this and countersign it to prove its authenticity.
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>>379486007
There's factual fucking evidence of the game being incomplete you donut.
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>>379483387
There's no trick. Kojima is either just a mediocre director or didn't have the ability to negotiate for the resources needed to complete his vision (although the latter wouldn't explain the game revolving around the stupidest twist ever)
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>>379486229
How about you post that evidence if you're so smart?
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>>379486309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYtakqP5AW0
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>>379485327
>the reputation and credibility of vast numbers of journalists
heh
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>>379486309
Anon, stop being obtuse. An entire chapter was cut because it couldn't be finished in time and we have the Chapter 3 titlecard in the files oof the games. Plus the absurdly rushed chapter 2 using recycled missions form Chapter 1.
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>>379486309
>>379486362
what, no response dumb ass?
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I didn't think there was a Ruse until they said he's going to be at E3 talking with the Metal Gear director.

If Konami wants nothing to do with him and Metal Gear, why is he going to be doing something with Metal Gear? Something doesn't add up, guys.
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>>379483387
>5 days
did you really just moved the deadline for "mgsv ruse" reveal yet fucking again? jesus christ you people are retarded
suicide stream when
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>>379486639
The sony conferece is only on monday, no?

If you count today, that's five days.
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>>379486229
>There's factual fucking evidence of the game being incomplete you donut.

Literally EVERY game has tons of unused assets. Concept drawings and pre alpha rendering is not proof of anything.

>>379486567
>An entire chapter was cut because it couldn't be finished in time and we have the Chapter 3 titlecard in the files oof the games.

That's a random speculation. The game had all the money and time in the world to be completed.

You are making headcanon scenerios because you didn't like kojima's creative decision to end the game the way he did.
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>>379486929
So you're going to tell me that young Liquid stealing a Metal Gear and then just fucking off with no reference to it ever again in the canon is the way it was SUPPOSE to be?
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>>379486929
You should get a trip, dude.
I'd totally root for you against Caramel.
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>>379486929
I'm sorry, I said chapter instead of Episode being cut.

But that's not speculation mate, the Chapter 3 titlecard IS in the files, and most importantly, Episode 51: Kingdom of the Flies was LITERALLY cut (I don't remember if they explain why in the video that anon gave you)

And it solves this plot hole >>379487137
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I'm not defending the game. you absolute morons who parade this idea that V is unfinished are fucking mentally challenged. it was a meme, it was an inside joke because the ending was meant to be bitter sweet.

it's a sad day for MG fandom that I have to spoon feed this shit. BB's story is resolved, Miller's story is resolved, Liquid's story is resolved. There is nothing more.
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>>379483387
Its going to be a single cinema and that's it.
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>>379486929
I'm not him, nor do I really buy into the ruse cruise. You are factually wrong. Please do some research before arguing. Someone already posted the video that was included in the special edition of MGS:V that showed what chapter 3 was supposed to be.

Unless you're just trolling, because obviously, in which case hurrrr
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>>379487307
>Liquids story is resolved
>except for the fact that it only got resolved in a cut chapter that isn't in the game
Do you have legit brain damage? what the fuck is with your thought process on this?
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>>379486628
Konami can't stop two people who have no affiliation with the company from talking to each other. It's a Sony movie, not a Konami movie.
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>>379487137
>So you're going to tell me that young Liquid stealing a Metal Gear and then just fucking off with no reference to it ever again in the canon is the way it was SUPPOSE to be?

I am seriously going to tell you: you are fucking retarded. I mean really ?
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I CAN FEEL THE RUSE IN ME
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>>379487449
explain you massive fucking cunt
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>>379487329
>Please do some research before arguing

You guys are fucking with me. I bet the Koji pro guys the included that 51 concept video are shaking their heads, because the very inclusion was based on the expectation that fans are not that stupid to confuse half assed concept ideas with the actual story.
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>>379484279
>>379485776
>>379485079
>>379485327
we all know whats gonna happen

>nothing is gonna be shown at e3, and if there is its just a tease of DS
>Caramel and FIB will just back pedal and say "hur dur kojima loves me, he is just hiding it further for better impact"
>will speculate the shit outta of the teaser
>"ENHANCE FURTHER, YOU CAN SEE THE LETTERS P AND T ON NORMANS CHEST HAIRS I SWEAR GUYS ITS HAPPENING"
>repeat till DS comes out in 2 years where they're btfo and never post again
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>tfw you believe in the ruse cruise but as it gets closer to a big gaming event (TGS, E3, etc) you start shitting your pants as you truly deep down know it's utter bullshit but force yourself to believe because you can't live up to the fact that MGS5 was a disappointment in terms of story and that Konami fired Kojima and that they'll keep raping the dead body of MGS until it no longer hurts your soul.
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>>379485451
episode 51 is the conclusion to the main threats in the game, the vocal cord parasites and sahelanthropus were created by skullface (the main villain) and hijacked by Liquid, which then arguably becomes the main villain of chapter 2.
You're all going to have to face and admit that eventually, the main narrarive of the game (which is not venom's snake identity, because that's just a bookend) is incomplete
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Am I the only one here who thinks Metal Gear Survive actually looks fun to play with friends? The trailer was just god awful.
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There is no ruse, Kojima is a hack, the game was unfinished. FUCK OFF
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>>379487621
Now you're not even making any sense. You were saying there was never going to be any more content past what was included in the game. There was. Content was cut. That's the end of it.
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>>379485103
elaborate
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>>379485032
>I bet you believe in liberalism and god, naive retard
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>>379487752
>which then arguably becomes the main villain of chapter 2

I think you guys are real autists because this "Chapter 2" labeling fucked you up.

The game is just chapter 1, the death of Skullface is the real ending of the game, Chapter 2 is just meta game.
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>It was a huge joke, guise!
>We're getting the rest of the video game!
>Here's my irrefutable proof: Kojima takes a shit every morning... Morning... Morning... Think about that word... Morning... Sounds like "mourning". Mourning the death of MGS. He mourns the death of MGS every morning. Morning is where you have breakfast with EGGS. DON'T YOU SEE?? EGGS WERE IN MGS4!!! It's a HINT and RUSE, you guise! Every day he's working on free dlc for us! Kojima's going to give us FREE DLC AND FINISH THE VIDEO GAME!! I'VE CRACKED THE CIPHER.
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To me, probably the best evidence of this being a ruse, it's just the publicity that the Konami-Kojima problem got. To me it's not something normal a public difamation to Konami live at E3, and Konami doing nothing about that. The "we are demons now" in the twitter account... To me those things are the real strange thing. They wanted everyone to know about that.

Not to mention the renovation of "Kojima Productions" that Python showed.
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>>379488369
You realize skullface only dies because Liquid takes over Mantis (and by proxy sahelanthropus) and then, right as VS is destroying the parasite vials, they steal the last one? That is introduced while skullface is still alive, it's not some new plot point introduced in part 2. As the game stands, skullface is dead but skullface's plan is still in motion through Liquid. It just never came to fruition due to whatever reason, but if they didn't include the cutscenes on the blu ray people would have just assumed it was a tease for a sequel or a dlc
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>>379488456
It was Konami vs The World, basically. So many reporters, insiders spilling the beans, yet nobody has any idea what caused the split.
Whoever cites "creative differences" was clearly born yesterday, and fails to realize what inane shit Konami backed Kojima on.
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>>379488656
The CEO died mid TPP's development and his kid who is now the new CEO is no fan of Kojima or of the console gaming market.
Look up the Super Bunnyhop video series onthe split, he says everything you need to know.
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You guys are morons.
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>>379487904
>You were saying there was never going to be any more content past what was included in the game.

Yes.There was never going to be anything more. You are making scenarios in your head based on some concept video that literally every game has tons of. LITERALLY EVERY GAME HAS UNUSED CONCEPT SHIT.

I'm not defending the game, I'm not bashing the game, I am telling you you are retarded: You are justifying your disliking of a creative decision by making shit up.

You guys are meta fans. You heard for years how Kojima was this master troll and now you are making shit up yourselves. But you are late to the party.
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>>379483387
>5 days
Whats your last meal request caramel? $25 max is the budget.....
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>>379488894
chicken nuggies
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>>379488656
you mean like zone of the enders 3 (enders project) being cancelled, the zone of the enders 3ds spin off being cancelled, silent hills being cancelled, a western producer imposed to mgs4 to "make it better" (ryan paython), his original ending being vetoed by the staff, being forced to work on metal gear games over and over even after asking multiple times to be pulled out etc.
Kojima never had that much influence and I get the impression that he wasn't very well liked, he was allowed to do some weird shit during the ps2 and early ps3/wii era because everyone was, Igarashi also did some retarded shit (castlevania judgement) with company money and no interferrence, back then peoducers/directors were given more freedom, compare that to late konami games which either have 20 directors each or are outsourced
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>>379488851
Epic troll bro xD
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>>379489074
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>>379489181
>Epic troll bro xD

Sure thing bro I'm a troll and this guy making up shit isn't:

>>379488551
>skullface is dead but skullface's plan is still in motion through Liquid
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>>379489074
Please don't make things up
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>>379489307
are you mentally deficient or just unable to read? The rest of the post gives context to that line. Skullface's plan was based on two elements, Sahelanthropus and the vocal cord parasites. Both of these elements are still a threat, and in the hands of Liquid as the game ends. If they didn't add the cutscenes to the dvd, people would just think it was a tease for a dlc or for a sequel. Of the two threats within the game, neither of them is neutralized.
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>>379489662
>Both of these elements are still a threat, and in the hands of Liquid as the game ends.

not really.
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>>379489784
the last time you see liquid he runs away with sahelanthropus, mantis and the vocal cord parasites, which is every threat in the game except for skullface, you may be misremembering
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>>379485202
>wearing a movie t shirt unironically
lmao kojima is such a fucking westaboo, it's so embarassing. He's like the reverse version of the fat pale white kid that goes to japan and thinks everyone loves anime and bows to every person he talks to.
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>>379489918
>you may be misremembering

No.
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>>379489074
fake and gay
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>>379492369
I'm convinced of Ludens being Normal.

Their eyes are the same. And Norman has particular eyes.
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>>379492957
Norman is rumored to be the real villain of the game
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>>379486929
you shoulda followed the dev cycle, anon. it was pretty standard kojima fuckery. finished segments were completely scrapped and reworked for gods know what reason in that strange jap head of his.
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Hello, just leaving this random 'V' over here.
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>>379487687
Go disarm nukes on Xbone instead, so you actually contribute to unlocking the actually real content we haven't unlocked yet. Even if it's just a cutscene, it's the only real thing we have to go by.
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>>379493776
is there even a counter anymore? I don't think they give a shit about the servers anymore, with SurVive coming out
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>>379493708
H O L Y S H I T

IT'S A V
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>>379493891
Since J-san joined Konami, yes.
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>>379493776
>>379493891
They issued a statement about a maintenance where they take care of nukes acquired through cheats. I haven't seen any changes, and the nukes are still developed offline.
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What if Konami revealed Survive to be the real chapter 3
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>>379493891
They started actively posting them again just a few weeks ago and they (supposedly) added some kind of anti-cheat measures for illegitimately obtaining nukes 2 days ago. The whole reason this MGSV ruse thing has flared up again is because of renewed interest in disarmament by Konami.

I've always believed there'll be more content (not just a cutscene) after disarmament, but the idea of a ruse as big as Caramel likes to think is fucking stupid.
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>>379494140
if you pay attention, caramel doesnt think theres one big ruse. he thinks there are several smaller ruses
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>>379494047
>>379494118
>>379494140
Well color me surprised. I think the need to allow offline nukes to be built because of the achievements/trophies, though I'm interested to see if the community actually manages to do it this time.
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>>379494190
what the fuck am i looking at
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>>379494190
Also that pin on del taco point at Hell's Kitchen.
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>>379494190
Callmeepic; please fucking leave. You're delusional and no better than FIB
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>>379494190
HOLY SHIT, IT'S A BAGINA!
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>>379485327
If chapter 3 is real, expect to pay some more just like GZ
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>Mads Mikkelsen's character leaked to be John
>Kojipro and Ludens reminiscent to Policenauts
>YFW Mads Mikkelsen is an old Jonathan Ingram
>YFW Norman is actually Tony Redwood
>YFW Sony got Policenauts from konami through licensing
>YFW The "company" konami said is working on Policenauts is Kojipro, upon being asked if they can lend the license to a fan remake
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>>379494190
>>379494402
a little smoke
and a lot of mirrors
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>>379494730
This is the best theory, fuck MGS and SH
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>Chapter 3 will be as long as a standalone game.
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>>379488371
I fucking lol'ed
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>>379495089
god I hope so
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>>379493708
But it'not random, it's so you can scroll down the page, faggot
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Either it will happen and it'll be the biggest thing ever, or it won't happen and we get to laugh at all the crazies. Either way, we win.
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>>379496634
It's a win/win, DS it's going to be a great game on it's own.
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