Tekken 7 thread Mishima Zaibatsu edition

>playing tournament
>some dude on a mic tells me to win my next match so that he won't have to fight that Jin dude again
>sees that I'm playing Devil Jin
>"Nevermind, I hate Devil Jin more."

:(

>>379468646
poor art

Nobody is really clicking me and ive messed around with half the cast.

How is Jack?

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>>379471223
Is this your first time playing Tekken?

If So, ignore everybody else and respond directly to these inquiries:

What platform are you playing it on? (control method and/or controller matters)

What other fighting game franchises are you familiar with playing/have moves memorized from and can perform with consistency regardless of how many years have passed?

What sort of "visual things" in a fight strike your fancy? (tv show, real life street fight/boxing/wrestling match/movie/martial arts kung fu stuff/anime spectacle/weapons/arrogant or cocky showmanship/style/powerr/etc...)

Is Yoshi good in T7? Is NSS and KIN 1+2 good now?

Is ps4 ranked fixed yet?

>>379472573
Patch coming this weekend

https://clips.twitch
.tv/IncredulousPolishedSushiHoneyBadger

how is this balanced?

>>379471223
top tier

Going to finally order this for ps4 since amazon has it back in stock. Planning on maining the Chinese girl.

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Is this ok as a basic combo to push someone into the wall after a launch? I'm new into tekken so I'm not looking into pulling something fancy but practical.

>>379468646
They seriously need to fix the input lag in this shit for the PS4 version, like holy shit what happened?

god damn across all of the fighting games even weeb shit like blazblue and babyshit like smash, tekken is absolutely the jankiest, ugliest and most boring god damned fighting game currently.

i have no idea why its so popular other than children can just mash their face against the buttons and corner-carry and juggle dudes for half of their health. absolute casual trash.

>>379474557
Xiaoyu is S+ tier in this game

>>379474970
Nice bait mate

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>Sometimes getting hit in the waist is a mid
>Sometimes its a low
WHAT THE FUCK.

I'm absolutely in love with Kazuya. His kit seems so simple yet effective. Tons of good moves and good and easy to execute punishes.

>>379476210
>EWGF
>EWGF and wavedashing on the other player side

>>379470816
That's the art of the japanese version

>going through yoshis movelist for the 5th time
>still end up forgetting half of his attack when I'm done

>>379477252
if you're new you don't need to remember a character's full movelist, just learn some different moves that you can use in different situations, and a combo for when you launch the opponent

>>379468825
>playing tournament
>host loses and leaves

HOW DO I KBD WITH PAD

>>379477702
Not new, I just want to know his entire movelist

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Any Gigas-bois here?
I know I will never win pro tournaments with him but he's great for people who cannot into juggles.
Launcher into Air Grab nets around 70 damage.
He's scratching my Armored King itch with launch-oriented combat style and lots of possibilities to regain space.

Tip for new Gigabois fighting against rush characters online:
> learn to block low attacks and counter basic grabs. Important for everyone but for Gigas it is necessary.
> use D+12 and D+34 to break through the rushes. Both provide you with excellent armor and allow you to break trough.
> Use F+12 as a counter. It is fast and has counterhit charge.
> Gigas' normal punches have decent speed and long range.

>>379476210
>Mishima
>Easy to execute

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>>379478253
on keyboard it is

>>379478243
My friend that's new to Tekken plays him and yeah he has ez ass damage... kind of annoying honestly.

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>>379478360
>trying to korean backdash
>on a xbone pad
>looking for a knife to kill myself
>try it out with the keyboard with a hitbox layout
>turns into easy mode

Maining my waifu and the best anime girl! Lucky Chloe! also im a girl gamer AND a lebian! Thats why i have waifu! Ha-ha yes im actually exist!

>>379472965
Paul can do that too without any meter.

>>379472393
>PS4
>MK
>Fighting, anime

>>379478781
whats the theory behind the button setup

like why is the 'up' key below the left down right keys

>>379479216
So your fingers rest on every direction button.
Imagine if you wanted to do a 360 motion.

>>379478781
Do you do normal KBD or SOCD KBD?

>>379478243
Grinding treasure mode with him atm

>>379479309
ah so thumb on 'up' right?

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>>379468646
HAAAAAIIII! RACKY CHUROE DAIYO!

Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK/Injustice have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

>>379479541
Is this pasta based on Smash Bros?

Will I be looked down upon for playing Paul? That 60 damage punch seems OP

>>379468646
>fighting Kazumi in the story mode
>she blinks in and out like an old 2d double Dragon character that got hurt after I start an air juggle and phases through my hits to start combining me into the fucking wall
This is a glitch, right? No sane developer would break one of the basic mechanics of the game just to give me a hard time, right?

>>379479828
Nah play whoever the fuck you want

>>379479880
Is this the first time you ever fought a boss in a fighting game?

>>379478857
Miguel

>>379474772
>60 dmg
Yep, getting that starter online is a whole 'nother story though. I recommend finding a solid low that you can juggle from

>>379479880
Nah the devs made the final boss/special match fights broken as shit especially with Kazumi, she whif punishes you to hell and back you had no idea what just happened.
>>379479965
Tekken boss fights are usually not that hard, the problem here is that they use bullshit tactics, as in worse than Gill from 3rd Strike.

>>379479475
>she pretends to be kawaii
>actually a little bitch
Made me like her even more

>>379479965
No, I've done plenty of fighting game bossfights, I've just never had a bossfight against a character that LITERALLY breaks the rules of the game to fuck me over. The Shin Akuma fight is obviously worse just by looking at it, but even then he's just spamming that teleport move at an insane degree, not giving himself iframes in the middle of an air juggle just to punish me.

>>379480146
>Tekken boss
>not hard
>implying Kazumi is even hard

>>379480362
Have you played SNK games? Those were bullshit, for me at least.

>>379480362
Is this the first time you ever fought a final boss in a fighting game?

Azazel is the most bullshit Tekken boss

>>379480873
My dude he is juggle city

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How the fuck do I get good with pic related?! I really like the boxing style, but I get rekt in online almost 95% of the time. Any tips for a beginner?

>>379481002
Spam mid/low mixups and never lose

>>379474945
What fucking input lag? I've been playing Tekken all my life and been playing TTT2 to prepare myself for Tekken 7 and now i'm spent hours playing T7 and I noticed fucking nothing. Is your brain already preparing you to use "input lag" as excuse for getting your ass beat? Fuck off outta here, shitter.

>>379481002
Haven't played him since 5. I should probably try him again.

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>>379468646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLmsVBgZiak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCBRMchNXXg
>yfw same guy

>>379480146
>as in worse than Gill from 3rd Strike
delet this shit right now

>>379481002
Master counter hits and dodging the opponent's moves with 3,4 and b+3. Also, keep in mind you can cancel 1,2,1 into ANY (including f+3) of your stances for some cheeky mixups. One of my favorites, if the opponent is blocking everything, is 1,2,1>PAB 1+2(grab) works every time and looks cool as fuck

>>379481162
Ps4 actually does have more input lag compared to xb1.

PC mustard race

>>379481268
One of my more hilarious faps.

>>379478806
>tfw learned chloe to poss off flatmate because he cant low block
>end up actually enjoyimg the movelist
>genuinely find her cute
>make punk/goth costume and now she is mai waifu

Send fucking help
At least i play paul and heihachi so i dont feel like a total faggot

>>379481338
Not a problem for me at all since I can still whiff punish, juggle, and crush consistently and easily. So I don't understand this input lag complaint. Fucking SFV and its bullshit.

I'm going to talk about anxiety and the need of an in-game tutorial in Tekken 7. Being new to the game and to the genre in general I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels very anxious when going into an online match. Once I'm in a match I can barely remember my combos or some of my moves and I find myself unable to defend against an opponent who's being aggressive or unable to find an opening against an opponent who's being defensive. I'm messing up my moves and I lack fundamentals. This is something the game doesn't teach me. It doesn't teach me fundamentals nor does it teach me moves. In the tutorial I can learn moves but not fundamentals unless I'm really gosu and actually record the AI playing against me. But most new players me included aren't gonna bother with that. I've spent days in training mode but I still can't win or do much right when I go online. Why is this? Because training mode doesn't teach you how to play the game. This is why a tutorial is much needed. A tutorial mode that gives you simple exercises like 'Heihachi is going to run up to you and use this move. Block it and punish with this move. Do this 5 times to move on to the next level.' It doesn't have to be harder than that. That's all you need. And before going into online everyone should have to do this tutorial. So everyone can know the very basics of the game. And then there should be an advanced tutorial that covers more advanced concepts like all options when on the ground. Meanwhile the basic tutorial only covers 1 or 2 get up options. To keep it simple yet give players a solid foundation.

>>379481430
i mean i was like "this guy's voice awfully sound familiar but i can't put my finger on it"
then i realized that he was the guy who made the greatest dub ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXiavai0ZLU
think Harada hired him personally for this?

>>379481334
I'll try this, thanks!

>>379481456
I have yet to find a Chloe that doesn't spam db+4 every match.

>>379480370
Kazumi isn't hard she's just straight up bullshit.
>>379481162
Get the game on the PS4 and you will know what I mean, also go the Tekken Zaibatsu forums and plenty of other people are having this issue, it's already a known fact that Tekken 7 on the PS4 has input lag compared to the PC version even the Xbone version doesn't have this problem, dip.

>>379481503
It still wont help you not get anxious when playing against an opponent. You might learn the fundamentals true enough, but as you said yourself, you can "barely remember your combos". What does it help to be taught, if your brain just shuts down when you get into a match. You need to get over the mental block before you actually can apply those fundamentals. And a tutorial cannot teach you that.

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Any complaints from longtime tekken players?
How valid are this guy's complaints?

>>379481602
>bullshit
Why, because she has special rules applied to her?

>>379479880
>pretty mediocre at fighting games
>finally get juggles down
>she keeps flashing away and diving me

Holy fuck I just want better treasure

>>379481697
Story mode has different attributes to her and other bosses making them harder to kill. Only good thing is they are a bit more predictable

>>379481549
Which is a shame cause she has a really neat moveset

>>379481479
Eh, I can understand why people are annoyed but this is like a long time problem with Sony consoles and fighting games.

Pretty sure they fixed it for SFV so they can probably put out a fix for Tekken.

>>379481602
I have it on PS4 numbnuts, stay shit.

>>379481648
The idea is you do the tutorial and then jump straight into online so you can get used to playing under pressure. But since there is no tutorial a lot of people get baited into spending way too much time in tutorial mode, essentiall wasting their time because they're not actually learning how to play the game

>>379481690
Sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>379481690
Well he's not wrong about Denuvo or no crossplay

>>379481503
I agree that Tekken could use a tutorial covering basics like sidewalking, wake up options, breaking throws or low parry.
But stuff like combos, dealing with pressure is something you learn on your own.

For example, I didn't know how to deal with Lili's b+3+4,3,4 shit aside from blocking everything. I went to practice mode, set the AI to do this thing and I started testing stuff.
I learned that I could jab her after the first hit, but not sidestep.

>>379481802
Yeah no shit, same as every othe Tekken game
>What? Why can Azazel armor through my pokes on his armoured shins?

>>379481690
>game is deep as fuck
>only homogenized element is movement
>input lag is 7-8 frames on PS4, 6 on Xbox, not sure PC but input lag is actually BUILT IN to the netcode for poor connections - you can actually set the input lag severity in practice mode to try it.
>Complete rehash is not an argument for fighting games also he complains about new mechanics so wut
>worst cast is subjective, most mainstays are here
>dumbed down throw mechanic only applies to generic grabs, command throws are as they used to be
>rolling on the ground does not get you launched
>newcomers ARE NOT reskinned old characters
>not sure about ultrawidescreen support
>Denuvo is real
>what one button infinite? Devil Jin launcher beam that will probably be patched?

>>379481697
Not only that but she insanely reactionary to every move I do it's not even funny, you have no idea how much I dread fighting her in Treasure mode.
>>379481906
Now you are just being full of shit, search it yourself and you will see for your self, in fact I think Digitalfoundry did a video on this issue.

>>379481549
You can parry it easily so I have no problems against it

>>379481503
Tutorials were always the worst part of Tekken games. The most you get is a possible tip on loading screen. The game won't tell you about 600000 ways to get up, about justframes, neither it will tell you on chickens and throwbreaks. That's just the way it is. Not to mention that it's a fucking Early 2017 and we still don't have complete framedata of this game. Thankfully we have tekkenzaibatsu and youtube now.

>>379482076
>button reading
Yes, its a fighting game boss
Stop being a pussy, they're explotable as fuck

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Finally learned to input Rolling Death Cradle properly. Got a (creepy) jaguar mask the game actually lets me recolor. Also, folding chairs!
Having a pretty good time.

>>379481690
The rolling punish is probably the only legit complaint in that whole post. though I have xbox version so i cant speak on how jacked the ps4 version is.

Most of the complaints seem like buisness as usual for tekken, especially
>"newcomers" being reskined old cast
Forrest, christie, panda, etc

>>379482059
Forgot:

>Waaah I lost to an easily telegraphed super that you can block or sidestep unless you're button mashing

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>Leo

Last Tekken game I played was Tekken 5

Should I get 7?
Any significant changes since 5?

>>379481503
I understand where you're coming from, but a tutorial will teach you nothing. the only thing that works is grinding against human opponents.

>>379482059
Eliza has an infinite with her air qcb+4 and Nina has an infinite against Kuma on a specific stage iirc. It's not really all that bad though

>>379482332
Yes and yes. Depends on if you like Tekken games ofcourse.

Whose fucking idea was to make Chloe's super a low?

>fighting a brawler rank for the first time on PC
>notice he has all wins and no losses on his statistics
>22 something wins
>mfw he goes fucking ham
>go ham back
>i was his first loss

Feels good.

>>379482401
Just don't get caught by it again

>>379482153
But see I never thought that Tekken ever had this issue even with T6, even with Azazel you just had to launch him once and you are pretty much done with the game, but here the devs went the lazy route and have the final bosses bend the rule of the game, in my opinion this was never a thing in the past Tekken games, it's fucking cheap.

>>379482424
this feeling is the best. however, im going 8 wins with no losses so far so im probably going to take a massive loss soon

>>379482497
>giving a fuck about singleplayer bosses ever

>>379482424
Also if anyone wants to play, add me.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TwilightSparkle/

>>379482505
Don't fret friendo, if you tihnk about it too much, it will happen. Just stay positive and be careful.

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>>379482076
I'm not saying there is no input lag you dumbass, i'm saying you are complaining over nothing, jesus FUCK. PS4 version still feels good to play. It's only shitters that are exaggerating that it so extreme that you can't do shit in it online. And considering that the fastest moves in Tekken are 10 frames, it's not even that bad.
Harada already explained that the reason why the input delay is so high is to help with online play, because if there's any latency during the match the game "removes" the exact same amount of frames to compensate.

So if for example, you are in a match online with 3 frames of lag, the game will automatically remove 3 frames of input delay and you will still feel like you are playing offline. I believe that's what they tried doing in SFV as well, but this only works in Tekken because the fastest moves are around 10 frames and not 3 frames. What also has failed to be mentioned is that the game PURPOSEFULLY adds a lot of input delay offline, then removes it online to leave matches at 5-3 bars feeling offline. This combined with the huge buffer (iirc somewhere around 15f) makes the game use its delay to it's advantage

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>>379482497
>mfw my character has projectiles
>mfw i just push them back to the other side of the screen and mash qcf's
>mfw perfect every time

>>379472393
PC with XBone controller
Only Melee desu
Showmanship and boxing, I main Falcon in Smash

>>379482349
That's retarded. A well put together tutorial will absolutely teach you.

I love the game too but some of you needlessly apologize for it in areas it could absolutely stand to do better in.

I wanna get it on PC but PC fighting games don't have a long life so I'll probably get the ps4 version

>>379482709
there are still people playing SFV on PC despite how awful that game is

>>379482059
>newcomers ARE NOT reskinned old characters
at least two of them are - Josie and Raven

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>>379482606
>mfw see a guy throw projectiles
>mfw sidestep and close it ever so slowly
>mfw do DB+3 as Feng and catch them low
>mfw they panic and press a button
>mfw I do WS+3 and launch them into juggle, then a corner carry and a wall stun combo
>mfw it's so easy beating the projectile spamming shitters

>>379482709
Tekken lucky enough had a really good start, it going between bad hours aroud 6.6k players and good ones 12k or 13k players

>>379482709
there's loads of people playing tekken on pc, it seems to have a strong community at launch which hopefully means more people will stick with it rather than moving to ps4 for matchmaking

>>379482709
PC is the definitive version of Tekken 7 right now, especially since it has online that actually works

>>379482783
Yeah because it has the advantage of crossplay, anon. Tekken 7 does not.

>>379482709
Lmao go ahead and get the worst version over a problem you're directly contributing to. Great logic.

>>379482605
>nearly every ps4 version of a fighting game has extra input lag
>surprised when people complain

>>379482632
In case the guy I'm replying to isn't still in thread, does anyone else have any suggestions?

>>379482785
Josie is like 60% Bruce at most. She lacks some of his most crucial tools. She's a differenct character.
Don't know about Raven though.

>>379482870
>>379482878
Yeah but what will happen once the matchmaking is fixed? I don't want to end up buying another fighting game on PC for it to end up a ghost town in a couple of months like how it always is in any PC FG. What makes it so different than the other fighting games on PC?

>>379480048
Me next please

>Xbox one controller dpad (finding it hard to footsie)
>blazblue, KoF
>good mixups, relentless offence

>>379482401
>>379482442
>still easy to block
>doesn't hit in air
>vulnerable to reaction hop kicks
This might actually be the worst rage art.

>>379482543
Some of us fans do care about the lore.
>>379482605
Then why the hell this "feature" isn't in the PC or Xbone version then?
And as far as I know people say that the PC version overall does play better because it has better input response, there is no excuse for this horseshit, you horseshit.
>>379482606
Fuck Akuma, but Alisa is cool.

>>379482985
King

>>379482785
Ok you got me Master Raven is 90% the same. But they keep changing Raven's moveset every goddamn game anyway.

>>379482980
It's not so bad on Tekken tho because every move has a lot of frames.

>>379483075
they just took the lazy waifufag route and rehashed existing movelists for those sweet casualbux. not the first time though (Miharu, Christie..)

>>379483270
It is bad.

>>379482980
>doesn't know that PC fighting games die within 1 month or 2

are you new?
console fighting games have always had more players. you'll see soon enough once the ps4 version is fixed this weekend

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pls r8

>>379483357
lol

>>379482934
SFV would be fine without crossplay just like SFIV was.

Tekken 7 on PC is the best version too. It'll do fine. I'm not sure what delusions people have about long term population on console but based off my time in SFIV on both PC and xbl, they retain similar numbers.

>>379483343
Lol nigger I've been playing fighting games on PC for years. Street fighter does well on PC and so will Tekken. It's already considered a much better game.

Games that die on PC are dead on console too. Prove me wrong.

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>>379483357
is that a boy or a girl

>>379483053
>>379483323

Gotta love /v/ who love to exaggerate. I keep forgetting that you boys don't play fighting games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tuofl-x3sU

I think Hagrid put it nicely without any shitposting or being an ironic shitlord.

>>379483357
now make jake by making dragunov all yellow

>>379483457
Yes

>>379483443
>Street fighter does well on PC

and you expect me to prove something with that kind of statement? Get outta here.

how the fuck do I dorya

what does press simultaneously mean

>>379483672
At the same time.

>>379482212
Does side stepping really work? Or is it just Kazuya that has a tracking punch rage art

>>379483672
if you turn on inputs, you should see downforward appear at the same time than 2 after down
if you see downforward, then downforward+2, you did 2 too late

>>379474945
the input lag is awful even jabs feel laggy

>>379483053
>akuma
I was playing Eliza

>>379483758
Sometimes. Most of the time it's just safer to block/punish.

Also, Jin and Steve's RA is high, Chloe's low, Alisa's RA is safe on block.

>>379483624
Lol you can look up the steam charts yourself faggot. people delude themselves into thinking console has some huge playerbase for fighting games when it's only a bit bigger than PC. I played SFIV on both PC and 360, when 360 was considered the best version, and often times I had an easier time fimdimg matches on PC.

And I ask you to provide the names of what games do well on console but not on PC and you can't. Why? Because the dead games like guilty gear or skullgirls are dead on console. The reality is there are only a few fighting game franchises that maintain a significant playerbase years down the line and SF and Tekken are the main two.

Have fun playing your broken onlime, extra frames of input lag version of the game while we enjoy the superior one.

>>379474945
If u say the input lag is as bad as you say then i've yet to feel it but then again ive only been playing the PS4 version so I have nothing to compare it to.

anna when?

>>379483037
Hit up /vg/ for the Tekken thread, they have a highly detailed list which shows a characters pros and cons and who they appeal to gameplay wise

>>379483885
Dowe even have any source on PS4 number of players? Or even Xbone?

Is there a place that gives a short rundown and combos for characters? How are you guys learning how to play this game?

>>379482632
>boxing

Steve
maybe Jack or Bryan. I hope you find yours.

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>>379483772
jfc this is impossible to do consistently

>>379483997
Go to the tekken general on vg

>>379483457
From what I can
Tekken 6 - Male
Tekken Tag 2 - Female
Tekken 7 - Male

They'll probably switch up the gender for this character for each game as a joke

>>379483840
At least put some effort in it if you're gonna troll and replace SFV with something respectable

>>379483885
give me the tl dr pls, i ain't reading this salt post

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>>379481690
Tekken 7 is fucking trash and i'll tell you why by explaining you one of these BS endings and it'll be Nina's.
Back in Tekken 4, she had arguably one of the best story set up in the series revolving around her son Steve and how she is chased down by Lei. She found out about Steve being her son and was hired by the same Mafia that wanted Steve dead. This story wasn't continued in the other installments and now in this bullshit game, Nina beats Steve unconscious? Really?! Even though Steve saved her from being shot by Lei because he knew she was his mother? Fuck you Harada/Namco.Other examples are Paul being a clown compared to his badass biker days and rivaled Kazuya.Now? He's a complete comic relief character running away as seen in this ending. Asuka being a link to curing/helping Jin overcome his devil gene powers since she was Jun's niece and all. What happened to that story line? Get's trashed because of Lili. You know... for fan service and no purpose at all. Never mentioned again.

And you people are going to support this? I sure as hell am not. Buy it used! Let your voice be heard. There is a reason why the Tekken games have been declining in sales and Meta scores! And these weaboos (Alisa, Lucky Chloe or Eliza) are only catering to those idiotic anime casual fans. They're cancerous and the reason why Tekken's dying.

Honestly, I like to think Tekken's story line ended with Tekken 5. Jin won the tournament and ended the destruction of the Mishima Zaibatsu's. The rest of the fighters had a good ending like King befriending Craig, Law paying off his debt and still running the dojo/restaurant, Lei still being one of the greatest detectives solving cases etc.

Tekken 1-3 were written by different people. They held a hand in Tekken 4-5 but afterwards they were not involved. Funny right? Those were the Tekken games that were considered great. Tekken 6 and upwards has been under Harada's direction and creativity and look what that's gotten us.

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so i wanted to pick up Heihachi.
is Sample Combo 5 a Typo? i don't see f,df 1 in the regular move list.
also sample combo 4 is bullshit, i can do regular god fist just fine but electric seems to be a mistery to me.

>>379484047
>/vg/

Thanks but no thanks

>>379483885
nice reddit spacing

>>379484024

You just have to keep practicing it you dink, after a while it'll actually start making sense.

>>379484092
>caring about tekken story

>>379484079
Lmao cmon nigger I'm asking you to do a very simple thing a day you can't comply?

The tl;dr is you're a faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

I just jumped into jukebox.
As someone who doesn't recognize anything before T5, the track list is intimidating.
What are some good tracks to pair together?

Is there anyone else who plays similar to Yoshimitsu? I tried different characters but can't get used to any of them.

>>379484092
>story
>in a fighting game
My only complaint is not enough modes and individual character stories need a couple more battles to flesh them out

>>379484129
>formatting your post is reddit tier
>this false sense of Internet superiority

Lmao faggot

>>379484197
Tekken 3 ost is godlike, just pick anything from there

>>379483037
josie

>>379483968
>/vg/
So it's a cancerous circlejerk, just like any other thread on that board?

>>379483457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-3Kbp6vIgI
Spoilers btw, but it is a T7 ending so it's not saying much since it's hardly relevant to the main story line as well as Yoshi's desire to enter the tournament, basically you are not missing out on much, but basically what this anon said >>379484058
>>379483506
Nobody disagreed on the notion that the PC version is the best, hell the PC version is THE original version of the game the console version are ports.
But regardless the Xbone version has less input lag than the PS4 version of the game, by half I think.
>>379483802
That's what I've been saying, online it's even worse but I'm not sure when is it safe for me to punish some characters due to the input lag.
>>379483807
Yeah Eliza is what I meant, tried her only once and I liked her already.
>>379483896
It's not so much about what I say, but try it yourself, press a button and see how long it takes for you character to move or try a directional input for example forward, and calculate how long it takes for the character to move forward, try it and see for yourself.

>>379484319
You're the one asking for character recommendations and as far as I know, it has the most comprehensive list to help you right at the OP

https://youtu.be/Nbewxse8DlI
for people asking for what character to play this is a nice vid

Anyone know the basics to learning Yoshimitsu? He has so many fucking things to remember, it's insane.

t. Eliza Main

>>379484614
watch a pro, and look at the moves he uses the most? then try to go from there

>>379484197
Personally I switched most of the music since T7's OST is mostly shit compared to the previous installments, but man it sucks ass since this track isn't included, the one track I fucking wanted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSwXzrANgRU
But find what works best for you, I would recommend but don't feel like turning the PS4 right now.

>>379484164
oh I know what i'm talking about because history is behind me, PC fighting games don't survive as much as console ones, period, i don't even have to give you names, it's a fucking FACT, get that through your virgin head. Why go PC when you are cutting yourself off from the bigger and strongest playerbase? You can debate a lot of pro tekken players are playing on PC but once the tournies start they are all moving to consoles because PC isn't tourny standard.

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>>379483957
Free DLC, I hope. Then we'll have Top Slut showdowns.

>>379484674
WTF why does it link to Aris's shitty mug?

>>379484714

Why does a vampire have horns anyway?

>>379484742
nvm

>no love for katarina

Disappointed.

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>>379481002
b,1 or b, 2 for holy fuck i need some space.
sonic fang (df,1,2) has surprisingly good range, abuse them.
u+3 for maximum sidestep and nail him with 1,1
>>379481334
> 1,2,1 > PAB 1+2(grab)
transitioning peekaboo into that grab takes fuckton of time

>>379484778
Because Narcolepsy

>>379484809
I got lust that's for sure.

>>379484687
History? Dude, you can literally see SFIVs playerbase on PC grow over time... SFV would be completely fine without crossplay... Tekken 7 has already surpassed SFVs peak players on PC.

Stop acting like you know what yore talking about lol because you clearly don't. You haven't been able to name one franchise that is dead on PC but thriving on console. and I couldn't give a shit what the tournament standard is and I doubt you even play offline lmao.

PC version is the best version, period, and it's not going to have any kind of population issue.

>>379484687
>I don't have to back up anything I say with solid facts and sources
>My proof: it is known
>If you question me you are a VIRGIN

>>379484365
That wasn't me it was some other idiot. Thanks for the advice I'll check that general out.

>>379484687
>"I know what I'm talking about"
>doesn't actually know what he's talking about

Classic /v/.

>>379484934
SF4? lol it's deader than SFV, keep dreaming.

>>379468646
bes character for noobs been playing kazuyah lee and thinking about byran ?

>>379484687
>bigger and strongest playerbase

as if that ever matters?
>oh fuck you can't have 15k people to play against only 8k

it doesn't matter, as long as you get games consistently..

also the strongest? fuck off you will never be good in this game anyway

>Pros moving to consoles
again who cares, you will never compete in 1 (one) tournament.

>>379485017
Top Slut and my boy Paul.

>>379484949
>>379484989
>>379484934

Give it to /v/ to be so delusional. I don't understand why I keep coming to these "fighting game" threads when most of /v/ is shit at them.

>>379484778
she's horny

>>379485016
People obviously moved onto SFV (did that really need to be pointed out to you lol) but before that it was growing over the years.

I don't know why I'm bothering spoon feeding this faggot. PC version has already been crowned the superior version while shit dicks like this are stuck playing a console port at 900p and with extra input lag to boot lmao

>>379485034
i'm actually gearing up to participate in a couple of local tournies and hoping to get to play in big ones later one.

>you will never be good in this game anyway

you should see my King and Feng, anon.

I decided to pick up martial arts after playing T7.

Which one /v/?

I wish Anna was in this game.

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>>379485169
Because you keep falling for the obvious bait like a dumbass. Stop replying to him, shit for brains

>>379485239
Judo.

>>379485231
Just don't embarrass yourself offline like you are on here by acting like you know what you're talking about.

>someone asks anon what kings wall splats are
>"I don't even need to explain because of history, virgin."

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What are the good lows for Master Raven?

Also are there any attacks that turn her backwards without too much frame disadvantage upon block?

>>379485275
I wish Anna would sit on my face

>>379485231
you actually posted this?

lmao you are trash at the game and will get fucking destroyed in a tournament

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>>379485275
>tfw you lose three of your four most used characters
RIP Marduk, Anna, A. King

>>379483840
The chessboard should be missing half the pieces

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>>379483840

>>379485239
capoeira

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>>379485516
>>379485518

>>379485239
Mishima style Karate

>>379484934
I hate to do this but tekken 7 is using steam download region so if they don't change it or do something the player pool will be small after the hype goes down

>tfw can't get good with my waifu

I wonder what people think of me when they see all of those grey fists on my ranked record. This sucks.

>>379485323
I'm not an anti social virgin like you who acts like he's on /v/ in real life. Also that greentext doesn't make sense.

>king wall splats

For a king wall splat you just do F 2+1 after the initial DF 2+1 during the wall combo and once u get him into a wall splat you just run up and do 1+2 into any of the ground grabs. Shit's ez.

Anybody knows the startup frames of Jack's justframe upper? It feels like it's around 18-20, but I'm not sure.

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>>379483840

>>379485746
Losing fights is not a shame. Seeing those grey fists means that you're allowing yourself to match up against your betters in order to improve.

Seeing a person with a long winning streak who sucks so much is way worse. It means that not only do they suck, but they don't want to admit it to themselves or others.

>>379485495
king has like all of armor kings moves now so who cares

>>379485419
I might and I might not but I consider myself a pretty good tekken player. So i'm not so sure what makes you 100% sure that i will get "destroyed" in a tourny without you knowing who i am going up against.

>>379485746
Gray and Gold fists include your whole online ranked activity.So you can win 10 times as Lili, then lose 10 times as Asuka, then play again Lili - but your record will show 10 gray fists.

>>379485323
or if u wanna do something fancy just end it with a 1+2 into a f, hcf +1

how do I put Yoshi's second rage art to good use?

How do I do iWS?
It takes so long for me to do

>>379485913
I do. I don't like King like that.

>>379485914
its quite simple, you sit on /v/ and try to tell people desperately that they are doing wrong playing the PC version, because you TOTALLY HAVE to play on PS4 to get ANYTHING done.

You are the kind of guy that, a new game comes out and you now finally is going to get serious. So you start practicing, inflating your ego, now you go around on forums talking really big like you are in the game for a long time and really good. Then you start going to tournaments, and it will hit you hard when you lose. So you start skipping out on some, because you need to practice. Which eventually just leads again to you stopping playing the game, without having achieved anything, again.

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>>379485893
>betters
>in like the begginer rank

I lost like 5 times before I won my first match

>>379485915
What if your whole ranked activity was just mostly silvers? I'm on ps4 so even though I lose a lot on ranked its busted so I lost even more in tournaments I try to be a good sport but getting eliminated in 5 mins and having to watch everyone duke it out is lame especially when I work a lot.

>>379485793
>doesn't use proper notation that makes sense
>couldn't list all of his wall splats

GG, kid.

>>379485914
not him, but I encourage you to go for it regardless. anyone new entering a tourney doesn't have anything to lose, only gain experience.

Isn't there an option for online rematch?
I hate being stuck in the loading screens 50% of the time

>>379486043
>literally a skin change
>I want my old character >(

special snowflake huh

>>379485659
Depends on where you live. US will be fine.

>>379486043
just be grateful he wasn't cut like the other characters that didn't have cheap reskins

kingfags are the worst

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Why doesn't this game have a tutorial if things like this are in it and nobody tells you about it?

>>379486043
>This much of an autist
>Can darken his skin color
>Can give him armor
>can change his mask color
>can do all of his moves

What the fuck is wrong with you

Is it worth getting this on PS4? Anyone know what the player count is like on it?

>>379486085
This looks awfully like projecting to me. What are you trying to accomplish? Make me feel bad because I was talking shit on an imageboard? Also you should read more because I never told people to stop playing on PC I was merely defending that the PS4 version isn't as bad as some make it out to be but keep on keeping on, anon. I see you almost have your degree in psuedo-psychology. Good luck.

>>379486306
PS4 barely works, wait until the patch comes out this week and see if it improves

>>379485893
This desu senpai

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>>379485239
Only one answer

>>379485913
Uh, didn't he get like two or three?

D+3
Running 3
F+2,1 and F+2,D+1,2

>>379486161
Skin change? King and Armor King are more than just a skin change.

>>379486108
We all gotta start somewhere. Don't take it too hard.

>>379486306
Ps4 will have the biggest playerbase but it's having some online issues from what I hear but they're patching in a few days

PC version is great if that's an option for you

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>Spend a dozen hours learning Lars when Tekken 7 first comes out

>See the tier lists from Jap/Korean pros

>Lars is consistently bottom 5

Welp, time to learn Leo.

>>379486486
>only goes after tier list

Saint is destroying basically everybody in the world with Jack-7 and he is considered bottom.

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>>379484674
>since T7's OST is mostly shit compared to the previous installments

Haha, no.

https://youtu.be/_lvdmh0DcmA

>>379486252
Because that really isn't applicable at all to warrant being put in a tutorial not to mention that's a Lili only thing.

Was it ever explained why they raped Jin's moveset so much?

What was wrong with him in T3?

His karate feint shit is such garbage.

>>379486486
Tier lists don't matter much in Tekken, just play what you want

>>379486615
Every character has a corner escape like this. Go try it out.

>>379486605
Why have they stripped out when the song goes to complete shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbdcseaX37c

>>379486115
uhhh, do you have trouble reading, you autist?

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>>379485239
Depends... What is important to you from a martial art? You wanna hit things? You wanna throw and grapple things?

>>379486115
since when is it his responsibility to name ALL his wall splats?

>>379486641
Jin in T3 was a replacement for Kazuya.
Kazuya is back in T4, so thankfully they changed Jin's moveset

>>379486605
This is literally the only song I've liked in T7 so far
Other songs will probably grow on me though after I play more

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>>379486668
>stipped out

Because thats the final tound mix you ass. I agree that part is shitty though, i used juke box to just have the first one playing even in final round.

>>379485239
don't pick a meme one first

pick something basic that'll actually help you, like standard boxing

>>379484778
They're perfect to pull on.

>>379486213
you can change it too whatever so if you change it to the big city on your cost it will work but i want to fight anyone that has a good connection its unnecessarily limited and it bugs me. on a side note its going to kill battleborn too, again

>>379486605
>whenever people shit on T7 WUB WUB WUB, people post infinite azure animu opening music
top jej

thank god for jukebox

>>379468646
>camera cuts away before Heihachi hits the lava
So he's coming back next game, right?

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teach me how to Nina.

she's hot but I have no idea how to play her.

>>379484197
Just keep Devil Kazumi, Moonriders, lonliness, alone, and Heat Haze Shadow from Tekken 7.

>>379486924
devil heihachi

>>379486352
>>379486464
Cheers lads. I have a toaster PC so idk, might just buy it anyway and hope the issues are fixed with this patch.

>>379486865
its also the only good song in Tekken 7

like,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG9_2GrRaCM
the fuck is this

What does it take to be demoted in this game? I'm stuck at Grand Master and the other day I went on a 10 game loss streak with no demo in sight, but then after a few wins I had a promo chance.

>Lacks any complexity or depth
>Extremely homogenized cast
>Heavy amount of slow down on the PS4 version
>THIRTEEN yes count them 13 frames on input lag
>No cross platform play
>No rollback netcode
>Complete rehash of the previous games
>Retarded comeback mechanics rewarding the losing player with an almost instant kill free super
>Worst cast out of any tekken game
>Dumbed down mechanics (tekken was already a very dumbed down game) such as 1 button throw techs
>Rolling on the ground to escape will now result in you being launched
>"Newcomers" are just reskinned old characters
>No widescreen support
>Denuvo
>Literal 1 button infinites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqEcCOWCA2E

tekken 7 is not only one of the worst tekken games but one of the worst fighting games ever made

>>379486926
>learn sample combos
>find good pokes
>find good mixups
>add in some chainthrows
>drop her due to difficulty
it's pretty easy anon.

>>379486924
>4th game literally said Heihachi Mishima is dead
>people now somehow think he wont come back

its basically a vital part of tekken that a character dies and then comes back because "they didnt actually die!"

>>379486486
>Being a tier-fag

You'll never unlock your true potential by being a follower.

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>SFV Laura
>TK7 Katarina

I didn't know I fucking love shit skin women

>>379486659
Don't know man i remember an evo of bob's

>>379486682
Do you? That isn't proper notation at all.

it's F+2,1 not F 2+1 clown shoes
its D/F+2,1 not DF 2+1 cream puff
etc etc

>>379486741
I wasn't even really asking him, I was mocking him for how he was acting earlier but since he decided to actually try answering the hypothetical question I might as well point out his notation is wack and he didn't list all of the wall splats

>>379486972
I think it depends on the rank of your enemies? If you face higher ranked people you won't demote as easily, and again if you win against them you are more likely to promote

>>379486605
The music in this game doesn't disappoint, personally. Really feeling the Main Menu track too.

This song you posted is probably the gayest one though, senpai.

>>379487006
>s-s-stop enjoying the game guys!!!!

oh shit, you are right, I will now uninstall the game. thanks for bringing clarity

Where's Miguel tiered at?

>>379487068
you don't

what you like is brown women made in japan

>>379487068
I made Katarina wear a lolita dress

>>379487091
woooow, he missed a + and a slash wooooow, he must be shit lol lol i showed him! i was reading his notations and I still understood what he meant. Sounds to me you just want to shit on him for the sake of shitting on him and abandon reason. you are no good than him

>>379468646
Why did they make Heichahi just boy to beat for every character in game? Since Tekken 5 he's losing to everyone. Kazuya, Jin, Lars, Akuma, Kazuya again. Story wise he was one of the strongest character in franchise in old installments now he's joke character.

>>379487175
gay dago tier

>>379487006
This

>>379487283
he makes up for it by being top tier mishima

>>379487187
A lot of women these days have """""anglo"""" features with """""shitskin""""" complexion, hombre.

>>379487283
You're looking at it glass half empty, mate. Everyone rises in falls in the franchise, your ignoring all of heihachi's victories. He eventually loses, but so does everyone.

>>379487091
Almost everyone has different notations to Tekken go to any forum, or any discord channel and you'll see this so I don't understand why you are grinding him for using a different one than what you are used to and his is still as understandable as yours. Catch more bees with honey than vinegar and all that, dude

>>379487019
>4th game literally said Heihachi Mishima is dead
Typo or do you say that because it happened before the official start of the fifth tournament?

>>379487091
Why can't u be more like >>379486142

>>379487091
I bet you foam at the mouth and screech when some people start using square, circle, cross, etc notations.

>>379487264
A few misplaced symbols makes a huge difference actually.

He was acting like a total faggot earlier in the thread so mocking him is actually well deserved on his part.

>>379487425
There's actually a pretty agreed upon basis for notation. What he said could easily be misinterpreted as other attacks even, which is the main problem with it.

tekken 7 has the most input delay out of ANY fighting game

>>379487264
you are also defending a guy screeching about how PC is completely fucking unplayable and you HAVE to play on PS4 or else fucking stop playing IMMEDIATELY and bragging how fucking amazing he is at the game

>>379487536
Because he rubbed me the wrong way already and deserves to get pooped on.

>>379487593
Because that wouldn't be infuriating to see? Have some common decency anon.

>>379485239
Luchadoring

>>379487593
>>379487662
>>379487707
>>379487727
>Perferctly comfy thread ruined by screeching autists gay for each other's dicks

GG guys, catch you later.

>>379487707
Lmao thank you. He was acting like a little shit earlier but now everyone is coming to his rescue. Bunch of cream puffs in here.

>>379487806
Good riddance bitch

>tfw can't crouch dash worth shit in matches with Josie
I swear once I get this shit down my neutral will be so much better. 95% of the time I get ws+3 in matches and it pisses me right the fuck off. Any tips for this? Or is it just something that comes with experience?

>>379486920
Well what do YOU think it should be? I happen to think Haze heat shadow, jungle outpost, fire and brimstone, Dragon's nest (both stages) and the Tekken 5 intro remix are hype as all hell. I also really like G-Corp at night.

>>379487662
>i literally dont understand how 3D fighters work

The input delay in relation to the moveset speed is among the lowest

>>379472965
The only negative of Tekken, imo, is that it barely takes two full combo strings to kill someone.

Either characters don't have enough health or some of these combos you can't get out of are just too long.

It shouldn't be possible to bring someone from 100% to 30% in a combo that is unavoidable past the very first hit. That's too much imo.

>>379487982
That neutral input (*) is very important for crouch dashes so make sure you're getting it.

>>379486961
I actually think that one is dark and tense as fuck.

DORYA
DORYA
DORYA
CHYEAH

>>379488118
>sidestep
>launch

>>379486252
10/10 custom

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>>379468646
how do i do kazuma's lighting upercut punch

>>379486641
>His karate feint shit is such garbage
>karate
>not all feints and defensive counter baiting anyway

It's like you don't know the martial art its based on or some shit.

>>379488186
do a shoryuken (but hold the down forward instead of going back to neutral)
and press 2 (triangle)

>>379488186
The electric wind god fist you mean?

this still applies for Tekken 7:
https://youtu.be/aqYQ1UH6_D8

>>379488305
any other tips for kazuma

>>379486906
And Judo! Both boxing and Judo are dead cheap because amatuer, and both are real tested competitive stuff! Boxing + Judo is "GOAT don't fuck with me if you don't actually know shit" tier.

>>379488305
don't you have to go back to neutral after the first forward?

>>379486757

Been a long time since T3 but didn't Jin incorporate a lot of Jun's moves into the Mishima style? I don't remember him being just a blatant Kazuya copy outside of the Mishima staples.

>>379488393
yes electric god wind

>>379472393
PC, fightstick
Blazblue, Guilty gear
Anime,boxing

>>379488440
well yea, but that naturally happens when doing a shoryuken motion.

>>379488186
>kazuma

Anyway, just make sure to press down, foward PLUS triangle. You need to press Triangle at the same time you press "down foward".

Thats what has always worked for me.

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>>379488186
>>379488395
>kazuma

>>379488395
KAZUYA. it's KAZUYA anon.

>>379488494
You'd be surprised

>>379488494
really? I just slide my thumb from forward to down on pad

>>379476043
What? There's literally not a single waist-hitting low in the game.

>already played 50 hours of Tekken 7

Damn... I'm a bit of a loser... I've only just realized.

Who else too slow for tekken? Years of playing pc games with focus on mouse like moba has ruined my hands.

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>>379488395
just use his kick charge attacks, use heat whenever possible

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>>379488009
Only an absolute fucking retard who has no idea about fighting games at all would think that slower attacks mean input delay doesn't matter.

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>>379488840
how do you do kazuki's kick charge attack

>>379488009

That's not input delay. It's just a game where the moves have higher startup frames than most other games.

>>379488487
Maybe check out Steve, as he's a boxer. He's rage drive is also the dempsey roll, which might interest you if you've watched Hajime no Ippo

>>379481690
That's literally pasta, and half of it a bald-faced lie.

Man this game is extremely frustrating to play you cant really "eye" anything how the fuck do you know whats safe or not? The visual cues for special attacks like homing or armor are very light especially for a game that has all these special effects too. I feel like I learn nothing playing matches and I fare much better just button mashing than actually learning how to play. I learn juggle combos,wall combos,bound combos for stages,punish moves,moves that leave me with advantage and none of that matters when the opponent just does whatever. How do I overcome this hurdle?

>>379488938
Only the biggest retard to ever exist would think that the relation of attack speeds and input lag isnt important.

SF5 obviously has the worst input lag / move speed relation.

does anyone know what happened to Yoshimitsu's grounded stab? it was uf1 back in Tag2

>Grand Finals
>"the host has left, returning to Online menu"
Thanks, Harada!

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>>379488472
Despite Heihachi taking on Jin's formal martial art training after his Mother went missing and introducing him to Mishima-ryu, he cheekily kept on some moves he orginally had when he was still just Kazama Aiki-jitsu. Poeple forget that Jin was not always Karate.

>Paul is an underdog in popularity
Paul is so good

>>379488938
Only an absolute retard would think that 7f of average input lag matter in a game with 10f jabs.

Is Lars a noob character? I've played Kazuya for as long as I can remember in past games but now that I'm trying to get into online and I can't consistently pull off ewgf so I've been trying some other characters. I'm having a blast with Lars and have some neat combos down, but I've heard he's that character for newer players; the "Ryu" of Tekken. I've always liked Lee/Violet too. Might try him.

>>379489310
Might seem obvious, but just play more. Tekken is a game about having as much situation experience as possible. There's no point learning all of the various combo's, punishes ect. if you aren't confident or have the ability to generate a situation to utilize them in. Its one of Tekken's main strength and weaknesses when trying to get into it, as the whole cast have so many moves, so that's why having knowledge on as many situations and options as possible is key. Usually if you can identify an opponent just gorilla mashing or spamming moves, you should be able to use i as an opportunity to learn how to counter or punish it, even if you don't get it the first time and lose, take it round by round, and hopefully get something out of it.

>>379484778
They're blowjob handlebars.

>Jack is low tier they said
>Does fuck loads of damage with 0 effort and can zone

Fuck koreans and this shitters character.

>>379486660
What's the input?

>>379490012
b, u/b