Who do you main on overwatch?

I don't play Overwatch.

The uninstall wizard.

>>379456889
/thread

>>379456726
I play the character that has 3 buttons to press and doesn't require aim, so all of them

I only play good games.

It annoys the fuck out of me that people "main" characters in a team based game that encourages you to constantly switch characters to adapt to a situation.

>>379456726
Reaper and Mcree

>>379456870
>>379456889
>>379457049
>>379457107
>>379457112

/v/ is feeling especially edgy tonight

I main soldier, currently mid diamond from using him and Dva.

>Main
Why?

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>>379457303

>>379457303
>/v/ is feeling especially edgy tonight

Blizzard has been fucking garbage for the better part of a decade now.

gee out of a list of faggots i guess i main the faggoty one

>>379457564
/thread

>>379456726
How are you supposed to main someone? Overwatch is about building a team that works...

>>379457303
>it's edgy to not hate the most shallow, soulless game on the market

>>379456726
Man I really wanted Overwatch to be my go to fps game, but holy shit has it become a stagnating pool of autism and bitches who complain about the slightest thing.

Honestly having more fun with fucking Call of Duty ever since it went on sale than that hot pile of shit that is Overwatch

I have a friend who was insanely better than me at the game a year ago when it came out. I quit a month after release and he's played and is gold frame 4 star.

I started playing a week ago and got to rank 2600 SR. He had a whole year to improve at the game and couldn't break 3500.


Literally, thousands of hours spent on this game to achieve mediocre diamond rank.

Do people just enjoy playing the game this much? Doesn't the anger of solo que cancel out the happiness you get from winning? Is it an addiction cycle?

>>379457660
and may I ask you what you consider to not be shallow and "soulless"?

I don't know why people bother replying to threads just to complain about a game they don't like. You guys are fucking losers lmao.

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>>379456726
Who zen here

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>>379457798
Here you go.

>>379457727
It has always been a stagnating pool of autism and bitches who complain about the slightest thing.
Blizzard embraced SJW dogma, and the playerbase, to a degree, reflects that. Also, people bitch in every multiplayer game.

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>>379457303
>having good taste is edgy now

the one with no skill ceiling

>>379458262
But thats all of them

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cheerz luv

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>>379458262
>>379458412
>admitting that Overwatch has limitless skill potential

>>379458047
anon, those are all 10+ year old games, and yes they are all good. Why is OW "soulless" though, what does that even mean?

>>379458124
>CS anything not being an autism simulator
>DUDE SPRAY PATTERNS

also

>ancient games

move on you jaded fuck

>>379457830
>being this bootyblasted people shitpost on a thread about a shit game
back to plebbit

>>379458624
sorry let me clarify, there is nothing to master in overwatch. there is literally no "getting good".

WInston,Dva,Roadhog
t.cant aim

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Sombra.

She needs a slight buff though. EMP needs to go through objects and a small damage boost.

Don't go to the /vg/ general. Literally tumblr there.

>>379458765
so you can get to GM no problem right?
I mean, should be pretty easy considering they haven't mastered anything.

>>379458624
heh, you're right. the skill floor and ceiling are basically the same thing.

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>>379458624
>Overwatch
>Skill

Yeah man, it's really fucking hard to press Shift, then left click with road hog, or Pressing E with Genji and just looking in someone's general direction.

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Mercy and Lucio. I can't aim at all and shit myself in 1v1 encounters. I've been Master the past three seasons only playing them, so there's that.

Roadhog and Winston

>>379456726
I main whatever the fucking team needs. So usually Ana.

>>379458987
>>379458864

I pick widow on every comp, every map and every game mode.
Game is hot garbage.

>>379458671
Anon, thinking that older fps games did certain things better than Overwatch doesn't automatically make you a jaded autist. Don't be a fucking idiot.

>>379456889
>Install game
>Uninstall game
>"Another game in the bag, fuck yeah"

>>379458864
sure, i'll get 5 people together and steam roll 95% of the population.

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>>379459054
Why would I waste my time?
Why would I take it seriously?
Why would I take any fucking videogame that seriously?

The only time I enjoy playing overwatch is when I'm shitfaced and playing quickplay

D.Va, Mercy, Zen, and Rein. I'm trying to learn Zarya, Ana, and Lucio.

>>379459258
Im sure the other 6 stacks will just roll over for you

good luck

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>this is the average overwatch player

>>379459145
Since TF2 is only direct comparison that can be made, what did it do better?

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>>379459471
>This is how Blizzard panders to Tumblr
Reall... makes you think...

>>379459518
A much higher skill ceiling, for one.

>>379456889
Why do they call is a wizard?

>>379459859
rocket jumping isnt hard

>>379460025
>he thinks rocket jumping is the only mechanic that increases the skill ceiling
LMAO

>>379460218
>implying im implying

Kys my man

Face it, TF2 is a pile of shit and doesnt require near as much skill as you think.

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>>379458765
You just described every western game ever made.

>>379459518
Important shit that TF2 did better

*Maps (No emphasis on chokepoints)
*Balance between classes
*Game modes
*Characters (Personalities, Fun to play while still allowing plenty of skill ceiling, easy to pick up and play, hard to master)
*Ballistics, hitscans are top-notch on TF2, OW has NO hitscan (and if it has, it sure as fuck doesnt feel like it because of how floaty and delayed the shooting feels)
*Projectices are very debatable. people still complain about hunstman being lucksman, but compared to Hanzo, Hunstman sniper just feels better. the animation and feel of the weapon have more weight and impact.
*Overall movement of characters feels good. its not float. Every character has its weight and speed. in OW people keep spamming jump in any gunfight to avoid gunfire. This doesnt happen in TF2 since constantly jumping fucks up your movement.
*Has ammo packets. you may not think its important but it actually is. there is a reason why OW was filled with stalemates.

For the lesser important stuff
TF2 did hats better at first. Then the workshop went too far and also made dumb decisions. but at least they kept the playerbase input with community made stuff.
Taunts are funnier.
Co-op mode
Music is way more hype and interesting, All of the TF2 soundtrack is GOAT, the only good overwatch stuff i remember is probably the POTG song, nothing else.
Seasonal Events (TF2 Halloween events were always the best and interesting to look for)
Game-themed events were also great and far more fun than Overwatch custom game you play once.

>>379458987
>say Overwatch takes no skill

So how's GM treating you :^)?

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>>379458671
>Why is OW "soulless" though, what does that even mean?
Everything about it from its design to its narrative to its mechanics is pure focus testing and demographic calculating. There is no artistic integrity involved with it whatsoever; it's an example of a video game being as western as it gets.

>>379460330
You're right. It doesn't require much skill because anyone can pick up the game and play it, just like Overwatch. However, unlike Overwatch, the base level of character play is not equal to the highest level, excluding genji, hanzo and widow.

>>379456889
spbp

When is the new map releasing?

>>379460913
I love how your argument is totally based on nebulous "feelings."

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>>379460662
Don't forget the speed. TF2 feels like you're playing a video game. OW feels like you're pushing a shopping cart around.

>>379457180
>not specialising around your friends picks

Why do you hate teamwork anon?

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orisa

>>379461042
Not him, but you´re a fucking idiot. stop posting anytime.

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>>379461042
Fucking NeoGAF, fucking NEOGAF has a thread that goes into detail about how western games are commercialized garbage and Japanese titles are superior. There is endless data to support this argument.

>>379460662

Sure I guess, OW only has a few descent maps

No secret blizzard is shit at balancing but it isnt as bad as its made out to be

100% subjective

subjective

subjective

there is that word again

stalemates end when someone fucks up

subjective

subjective

literally who cares

subjective

subjective

subjective

so mostly subjective things, then? Also, TF2 has had nearly a decade to balance out and mature, hopefully OW will be when it gets that old as well (if it hasnt been replaced that is)

>>379460870
See >>379459295

>>379461217
>>379459295
>claim games takes no skill
>"Okay get to the highest skill bracket in the game then if it's so easy"
>W-WHY WOULD I WASTE MY TIME ON THIS GAME!

Really rumbles my gumballs.

>>379461217

>I got placed in gold

its ok anon, not everyone is good at vidya

>>379461173
Oh? Then maybe you can help this poor soul understand an intentionally vague argument based on a pointless bias?

>>379461196
I'm really loving this bizarre implication that Japanese games are somehow not insanely commercialized.

>>379461365
It's almost like people don't enjoy playing shit games.

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>>379461425
>I'm really loving this bizarre implication that Japanese games are somehow not insanely commercialized.

>>379460662
>*Ballistics, hitscans are top-notch on TF2, OW has NO hitscan (and if it has, it sure as fuck doesnt feel like it because of how floaty and delayed the shooting feels)
God, you're stupid

Overwatch is filled from top to bottom with binary system mechanics. It makes the game incredibly dull to play and even more boring to watch. The characters/classes you pick are more important to the outcome of the match than you are as a player. You'll never see a player demonstrate a 'style' of play because there isn't enough nuance for anyone to express themselves.

There is a reason why despite 50 gorjillion copies of the game sold the metrics for tournaments are consistently getting worse. Competitively interesting games see stream numbers for tournaments higher than stream numbers for personalities. Stream numbers for Overwatch tournaments are complete dogshit unless Blizzard puts it in the launcher so enough mouthbreathers can accidentally click on it while they try and find the play button. Otherwise streamers like Moon/Seagull dominate because a random voice that is somewhat charismatic is more interesting than the actual game.

>>379461567
tf2 is the reddit/tumblr-core game

fuck off back there if you want to continue shitting on /ourgame/

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>>379456726
tracer, lucio and orisa

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>>379461567
You're in the minority because the game is very popular, no amount of reeeeeeing on 4chan will change that.

Still a retarded statement to say the game takes no skill and yet you can't prove it by getting to a high rank, then using a copout excuse like "WHY WOULD I WASTE MY TIME ON THIS GAME!", while adding another layer or irony by engaging in a thread ABOUT the game.

It's really as if you're too afraid to realise you'd make a fool of yourself if you actually tried climbing ranked in this game.

Oh well keep hiding behind anonymous because you have no backbone to support your opinions like 90% of the people here.

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>>379461761
>Overwatch
>/ourgame/
Anon...

>>379461212
*Overwatch has no decent maps.
*OW Balancing status is deplorable. from 24 heroes only 8 are relevant. the other 16 are completely useless or will result in a loss regardless of your skill.
>Subjective
Dude. the maps on TF2 are CLEARLY superior in design , size and fun-factor.
Game modes are way better executed than OW mostly because of this.
>Characters being better on TF2 is subjective.
They are far more interesting and better developed than "Pixar hero #23", also everyone acting super friendly with each other, no rivarlrien between nobody thats clearly labeled as "EVIL" (Reaper, Widow and thats it.)
>Ballistics being better is subjective.
Dude. go play a round of Widowmaker, then play a round with Sniper on TF2. You´ll see what im talking about.
>There´s that word again
??? You´re not even making a point here.
>Stalemates end when someone fucks up.
Most games before Uprising update ended in a stalemate in OW thanks to the horrid map design and everyone being able to constantly fire with no real disadvantage.
>Subjetive Subjective Subjective.
Cmon now you´re not even trying.
>Who cares about Co-op
A dev who adds actual content and game modes to their game.
Face it, the game is flawed and inferior. and blizzard will do nothing to fix it because the only thing they care about is pandering to normies and tumblrites who dont play the game seriously. and also blizzard wasting money trying to make OW a serious e-sport when they still suffer UNACCEPTABLE issues like the added delay.
I Seriously doubt anything will top TF2 unless valve rises up from the abyss of jewish lazyness and makes TF3 upon this succesful formula.

>>379461650
Oh? Would you like examples of the endless amount of waifubait pandering present in Japanese video games? Maybe those don't count because they're symbols of artistic integrity because they're showing boobies in a video game?

Or, can I just do what you did and say, "There is endless data to support this argument," and then wave off any further responsibility?

>>379462045
>screencapping a post

like I just said

>>>/reddit/

fuck off newfag, you;re really trying way too hard to fit in

D.va, Ana, Lucio, Pharah, Genji

>>379462145
>getting told left and right.
>R-Reddit..!!
You´re embarassing yourself.

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I only play QT's which includes Winston

>>379462230
>>>/reddit/

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>>379460870
I played for 1 weekend, 2 weeks prior to the end of the season and got to GM

Game is fucking trash. Trashcan maps with shit sightlines and tiny chokes, no movement acceleration, low skill heroes designed to counter high skill heroes(dva, winston, fat piggy), shitty community, and a virtually non-existent esports scene.

It's an objectively bad game with some tiny pockets of fun that don't remotely make it worth my time.

The Overwatch Cycle.

>Seasonal Event comes around
>Log in for free crates, play a few rounds maybe do placement matches
>Get ranked.
>Get bored, abandon game
>Seasonal event comes
>Log in for free crates, play a few rounds
>get bored, abandon game,etc
Rinse and repeat.

Nice game blizz shills.

>>379461761
>implying tumblr trannies and reddit numales wouldn't flip shit at the sight of a nearly completely white all make cast
>projecting this hard because blizzard panders to sjws (see: zarya)
at least own up to how pc and safe ow is.

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>>379456726
no one, because I only play Mystery Heroes mode

>>379462369
>find GM profile with similar stars and player icon
>click on his career profile
>type date at all chat and blur out your own name

no one's falling for that

>>379462369

Forgot to cover up your promotion stars.

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>>379462369
>low skill heroes designed to counter high skill heroes
The worst part. It's what kills the game for me more than anything else.

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>>379462604
>making Overwatch even more of a luck-based RNG nightmare than it already is
shiggy diggy diggy dugaw

>>379462736
Do you just take screncaps of posts on /v/ all day? You're not even trying to hide how new you are

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>>379462690
lol is GM really that impressive to you that you can't fathom someone on /v/ reaching it?

>>379462736
Don't you understand the dynamic between having high skill and low skill heroes / characters in a game?

High skill heroes take longer to master, but their impact is considerably higher when they're played well because they have something like high mobility and outplay potential.

Low skill heroes rely on simple tactics that can be effective, but they don't have many means of outplay or variety because their kits don't allow for it.

A good Tracer or Genji is near uncounterable, especially since Roadhog's shit is about to get slapped.

>>379462867
What RNG is there in Overwatch other than bullet spread for some heroes?

>>379463101

You obviously didn't play it for just one weekend. Just admit you played it a lot but that you still don't like it. It only makes your opinion that the game is shit stronger, you dummy.

>>379463101
uncensor everything and I'll believe you

>>379458047
Please add ut2k4 in the non garbage and we are golden

>>379463101
>plays only 2 characters
>hurr the game is shit

Maybe if you tried other characters you would know how good it is dipshit

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>>379463101
Sorry anon, clearly anyone decent at the game would be singing its praises.

Just kidding. OW is awful to play unless you're just so bad at general game mechanics that you find it more fun to play games that play themselves.

>>379463292
I played season 4 for 1 weekend to get GM. I'm proving it's easy as fuck to attain a high rank if you have any fps background. Most of my playtime was from when the game launched before ranked even came out.

>>379462736
Maybe you aren't as skilled as you think you are if you are dying to low skilled characters?

>>379463494
>it's easy as fuck to attain a high rank if you have any fps background

Yeah it's especially easy to attain if you've played the game long enough to get to level 300+.

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No one

>>379463613
When you win as much as I do, it's ez exp

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I dont play lucio anymore though

>>379460330
Agreed tf2 is the bastard child of arena fps.

Want a real challenge? Play quake 3 arena or unreal 2k4 multi player.

If you can get on level of people who have been playing for 13 years non stop you will a god at any other game.

>>379463586
>want to play mccree
>get dove by winston and dva with her faggy matrix in my face
>die with no opportunity for counterplay
yeah, but it's clearly me that's the problem not the shitty hero designs.

>>379464030
I remember when TF2 came out and all I could think to myself while playing it was that it was a dumbed down TFC that felt like everything was in slow motion for some inexplicable reason. Guess a lot of people hold it to some high standard now though.

t. quakedad

>>379464119
Your counterplay is a hero re-pick you dumbfuck, not staying on the same hero while failing and thinking it's the game's problem and not you.

>>379464250
>dumbed down TFC

I mean it's slower than TFC's conc jumping and shit but the class balance is a lot better.

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Roadhog, Mei, Mercy
>Those new Hog changes
It was nice knowing you

>>379463147
This isn't always uniformly true. Reinhardt is a meta-defining demigod and all of the difficulty in playing him comes down to having some gamesense.

On the other hand, though, I don't understand the point given in >>379462045 about how half the cast is "unusable by the community". Same generally goes for most games that feature a large pool of heroes, and even TF2, with its tight, compact design has had headaches like the Pyro, who never really found a spot for himself (puff'n'sting got nerfed to oblivion for no reason at all, his support abilities like being an Engineer's bitch are underwhelming, you can't rely on your flamethrower at all, afterburn is a garbage mechanic and no loadout exists to help it out, airblast is fun but Valve is determined to shit on it because it's not 1:1 "class identity").

Then there's stuff like Heavy, who is an utter pubstomper, but his competitive use falls into a niche and he's extremely Medic-reliant; the Spy main's answer to the fact that 10 years of a developing userbase is to completely forgo their Knife - it's Gunspy or bust, you play recon / pick; the competitive Sniper is there for the sole purpose of scoring a Medic pick - it's also the blight of pubs because of 12v12 servers that enjoy having 3-4 snipers (and spies) on each team. The Engineer is a whack-a-sentry character that often turns pubs into cancer and can feel painfully static.

There's plenty of flank classes (Scout, Spy, Pyro, maybe Gunslinger Engineer), but you could argue that only one of them is of any universal use.

The core classes are Scout, Soldier, Demoman and Medic.

If it weren't for Highlander, many classes would simply not be played, ever.

You tell me that OW games are decided by timing of ults and proper pushing, but how is that different from TF2 matches being timed around the Ubercharge?

And before we jump into hostilities - I'm genuinely curious and want to learn about that stuff, no antagonism implied.

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>>379464519
>mfw seeing that sole Reaper change

I might actually play him now, I really didn't like the Orb system.

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>>379464798
Given the enormous damage that edgy fuck puts out, it's gonna be so much harder to kill him now unless you get the drop on him

>>379464798
I've played the PTR with it, the Lifesteal is very underwhelming on non-tanks, even then the souls gave you better self-sustain potential.

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So when is best skin going to be available? Soonish, right?

>>379464342
I don't play mccree. I'm saying I wish I could play mccree, but I'm forced to play tracer since she's pretty much the only viable dps that requires aim.

It's just a fundamental game design flaw to have heroes that are direct hard-counters to other heroes with zero counterplay. Heroes like tracer, genji and mccree are balanced soft counters to each other with outplay potential. The tanks on the other hand are complete hard counters to certain heroes. If you want to play widow or mccree, the opposing team can just pick dva and winston to completely counter you. In an ideal balanced game, the person with more individual skill should outplay the person who's less skilled, not the other way around. In overwatch this is almost never the case, with the exception of tracer, but i'm sure blizzard will get around to nerfing her, since they can't stand the idea of having hard carry heroes that require skill.

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>>379456726
the one true crusader
also trash mouse

>>379459912
The wizard makes the files for the function you are deleting "magically" disappear.

>>379465065
it's already available if you played HOTS :^ )

>>379465197
be flexible you fucking retard. this isn't a moba

>>379456726
Bastion

I don't care if he's bad I'm playing to have fun and guard objectives. Secondary is Robo Dhalsim.

>>379463208
Lots.
>game is over reliant on team composition vs. individual skill meaning you can't carry your team and have to luck out with non-shitty teammates
>prevalence of RPS hard counters means your survival is based heavily on what character you stumble onto as opposed to arena shooters where you can overcome the opposition through mechanical mastery
>the above also means you have to luck out with your teammates selecting the right characters as well
>ult charge of enemies is hidden from the player so you don't know if an enemy has a tide-turning ult until they whip out the Q press and kill you with it
>ultimates themselves are often RNG based in their effects, such as the projectile generation/movoment in Reaper's Death Blossom and Pharah's barrage
>this also goes for cooldowns, you can have an enemy suddenly show up out of nowhere with you unable to perform a required ability while they kill you with theirs, as opposed to traditional shooters where you can override this by stocking up on ammo via map control

>>379465575
I get that you're baiting/trolling but OW actually is a MOBA. MOBA concepts such as team positioning and cooldown coordination is far more influential on the state of an organized/high level match than anything having to do with traditional FPS concepts such as mechanical movement skill or aim. (I'm not saying that is bad)

>>379464936
Sauce pls

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>>379459138
>Picks only widow on every map, mode, and comp game
>calls game hot garbage

what did he mean by this?

>>379463101
It's more the fact that you're claiming to have made it to level 300 in the span of a single weekend, which is physically impossible.

>>379464342
>>379465575
>class rock-paper-scissors is good game design in a fucking first person shooter
TF2 was bad enough about that shit as it is, but OW takes it to a whole new level.
There's a reason arena shooters are universally revered and MOBA trash isn't.

>>379465701
Shitty teammates / draft is not RNG, that is human error.

What hero you run into is also not RNG, that is just an unfortunate or fortunate experience. They were where they were and you were where you were, it was not a random element.

Knowing ult charges is NOT RNG, you have to use your general game knowledge to determine whether an enemy has one or not based on how long it's been since they last used it and how well you perceive they're doing.

Fair enough about Reaper's and Pharah's ults, but you can increase your chances of higher impact ones based on your positioning.

LIKE I SAID, knowing the enemy cooldown is NOT RNG, you need to use your game awareness to make a judgement call. Like for instance if Winston just jumped in and plopped his shield down then you know he can't jump again for 6 seconds, or if you just broke Rein's shield then he's not gonna have a moderate charge on it for some time.

Knowing when a hero is vulnerable is one of the key skill sets in OW.

>>379465875
I played this season for 1 weekend

The vast majority of my other play time was when the game came out and the second season when I came back for a bit.

>>379466067
>point and click adventure games are revered

the only games that take true skills are fighting games

>>379466213
Slight correction
I mean the previous season
haven't played at all this season

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>>379466253
sure thing kiddo

I don't play any other character other than Pharah

>'maining' anyone on a multiple character-based game

>ended season 4 at around 3900
>won 9/10 s5 placements that put me at 3767
Yeah no thanks. It was already tiring going on winstreaks and then put in forced losses solo queueing. Let me know when they fix matchmaking and sr.

>>379465701
>game is over reliant on team composition vs. individual skill meaning you can't carry your team and have to luck out with non-shitty teammates

The same "ELO hell" argument was perpetuated all the time by people bad at League of Legends, yet it was still possible to climb out into a high rank by just playing consistently, even if you were playing something like support that seemingly has no carrying impact.

>>379466301
Doesn't Overwatch go under arena fps with memorizing map/health packs and similar weapon designs to old arena fps games

>>379466475
Anyone complaining about ELO Hell, forced 50% or always blaming their team are confirmed trash.

>>379462369
>i hate the game
>3 stars
youre not even trying anon

I'm currently trying to get back to Zen, since he's a support no one gives me shit about switching. So far I'm just alternating losing and winning but overall I'm climbing.

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My demoman and medic skills from tf2 carried over i guess. I never realized tf2 was as bad as it is until i played the open beta of Overwatch. I dont play tf2 at all anymore unless im hacking, which i cant even do anymore.

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>>379466657
It's not forced 50/50, but you will get put in unbeatable games if you go on winstreaks.
>win 8 in a row bringing me up to high diamond
>game number 9
>4 insta locks including the Shimada brothers, a symm and a torb
>check their win rates
>sub 35%
>mfw

>>379466674
games been out for over a year
3 stars is nothing

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I only play for best girl

How to play Bastion well? Don't say not play him.

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>>379467280
don't play him

>>379467280
Switch positions often. Don't be out in the open. Don't be fooled by Genji. Ult only when DVa is dead and always go straight for the healers.

Don't trust your Rein

>>379467280
Pick him for situational choke points and then switch into something different when people wise up.

Just kill people as they turn a corner. Hide. And then go brrrrapppppp.

>>379467280
Played him a bit at around 4200 last season on payload maps. Sit on the payload behind a dva while your flankers force the enemy team into you. Hold left click. If you take damage go mobile and walk a few feet backwards while healing and get behind the payload.

>>379458671
>anon, those are all 10+ year old games
Those are the only games allowed on /v/
You must be new

>>379467274
I want to bury my face in D.Va's cunny.

how do i get gud with Orisa? i win games but it's mostly because i just throw barriers around and my teammates do all the work. i'm lucky if i get 5 kills in a game because the gun doesn't seem to hit anything. the bullets seem to sometimes go slower than Junkrat's bombs

>>379467131
junkrat is garbage, zarya feeder and support ult charger
>unranked
>stupid enough to tell us he hacks in other games
hello silver

>>379466301
>the fighting games entry
This is bait right?

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>>379466301
>this picture

>>379467280
Hold down the left mouse button.

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>>379466301
imagine being this butthurt

>>379456726
Mercy, but I'm very ok with all heroes. This season I'm trying to main ana :).