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>He thinks Nomura will fail us

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>He thinks Nomura will fail us
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>wing
it's already shit
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>>379448745
I would've been super into this if it had come out 6 or more years ago.
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>implying they won't just advent children the shit out of it

I have 0 confidence.
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That image is exactly why he will fail us.

Sephiroth was a big reveal at the end of Midgar, this puts him front and center of the entire story.
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It'll be at least 3 more years until FFVII: Episode Midgar Demo comes out
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>>379449565
can't wait
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>>379448745
>He thinks Nomura will head this
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>>379449329

fpbp
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>>379448745
>SWITCH LIMITATIONS
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>>379449329
They already said that it's not supposed to represent the game, it's just a keyart for fans to interpret as they want
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I'm pretty sure we're getting a trailer come E3, but what about a demo? Is it possible or is it still too early? Knowing Square Enix they'd probably require you to buy one of their games like The Zodiac Age or Stormblood
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>>379451282

This looks so fucking terrible.
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>>379451776
Work in progress
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>>379452052

Shit in progress
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>>379451776
And what looks good to you will look like shit to me.
>>379448745
Sqeenix is damned no matter what they do. The fanbase is carcinogenic trash.
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>>379448745
real talk, is it a hack and slash now?
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>>379451282
So is it semi turned based? Like FFX-2? I can dig that, as long as it's not full action.
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>>379452179
>Nomura
>not full action
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>>379452179
no

http://gematsu.com/2017/03/final-fantasy-vii-remake-battles-action-based-cover-optional
>Battles are not command-based, they’re action-based
to put this quote into perspective SE considers DQXI a command-based game
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Nomura has worked on good games but he's never made a good one. He just isn't a good director let alone a good writer.

You only have to look at Kingdom Hearts to realize the guy has zero talent beside being decent at drawing.
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>>379452126
Last I heard they would give the option to switch between hack n slash or ATB.
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>>379452270
>>379452376
ok
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>>379452334
Yeah that sounds pretty shit, back to 0 expectations for me.
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>>379448745
>reskin ff15
>sell millions
but everyone hates konami with metal gear survive?
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>>379452376
>Decent at drawing

But not "designing", which undermines any talent he has.
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>>379451282
>materia
please. How are they going to cram all the summons into shitty real time combat?
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>>379452648
Probably a pause function i guess.

Which will be fucking terrible.
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>>379452270
Should've stayed as a character/monster designer
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>>379452764
I'm going with FF15 summon system.
two summons.
they're qtes that pop up at a certain point during only certain fights.
10/10
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>>379452126
it's the same pile of shit that XV is
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>>379453192
Fuck off already, why is /v/ so blind.
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>>379453231
Did I miss a new gameplay trailer or something? Everything I've seen makes it look like the same shitty action combat.
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>>379453231
Because 7 is a great game that only has one thing that needs to be changed: It's graphics.
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>>379453231
VII confirmed for keeping the ATB system in place? I'll be pretty disappointed if it goes with XV's combat system.
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>>379454058
neither
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>development recently switched back to in house
Why in the love of fuck was it ever outsourced to begin with? Literally FF15 again. This has zero shot of being shown at e3
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>>379452334


lmao
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>>379454457
Because they didn't have the manpower to be fully in-house at the start but didn't want development to be at a crawl resulting in the decision to find the best studios they could outsource to, this is actually the opposite of being
>Literally FF15 again
as the vsXIII/XV development hell was a result of having no one to work on the game

It means they now have that manpower internally and development should be improving, if anything.
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>>379455013


what is this meme
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>>379453231
Go away XV-kun
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>>379453459
>Because 7 is a great game
>VIIfags actually believe this
You were a joke when it was released and you're a joke now
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What makes people think there will be a trailer at E3. There hasn't been any announcement.
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>>379455821
Don't call everyone xv-kun kiddo. I'm saying that it's nothing like FFXV in terms of combat, which is a good thing.
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>>379448745
Don't be silly. We'll all be long dead before that motherfucker even gets around to failing us.
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>>379448745
Why does he have a wing?
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>>379448745
I'll buy it regardless of what anyone thinks of what he did that seems like a failure to them, especially from losers on /v/? come on. if the gameplay looks like that from the trailer then fuck yeah i'm buying. if people think it looks like XV's combat they are way too retarded to be using a computer, especially since nomura and tabata have different ideas for combat.
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>>379448745
That's a big angel.
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>>379449329
this. He never had that shit in the game.
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>>379457464
didn't he have it as the final boss? nigga who the fuck cares
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>nomuracucks ITT
I hope you all die
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>>379457568
you're more worthless than my own smegma
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>>379457673
At least I don't buy games developed by that hack job
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>>379449686
Show me one person who doesn't know Sephiroth is the villain of FFVII

I suppose he shouldn't have been included in KH, Dissidia or Theatrhythm since he's supposed to be a surprise.
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>>379457698
because you have shit taste
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>he thinks this is going to release
IM CALLING IT RIGHT NOW RELEASING IN 2020
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>>379457514
Nope. He had six white wings and a wing for an arm.
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>>379457880
>nomuracuck acts like he has a notion of taste
kek, you're pathetic I bet you play Kingdom Hearts
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>>379457262
I said, that's a B I G angel!
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>>379457928
>He had six white wings and a wing for an arm.
>and a wing for an arm.
>hur dur one black wing is 2 much
god dammit stab yourself

>>379457960
of course i do. i bet you don't play it cause your a faggot with shite taste
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>>379452648
Maybe they'll function like KH summons

Except Knights of the Round which will still be an absurdly long cutscene
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>>379458040
>of course i do
My sides, holy shit. Well it's clear to disregard all of your opinions
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>>379458040
When is Sephiroth shown with one black wing in his human form in the original game?
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SUMMER
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>>379458234
If they add the wing to the scenes where he flies around, it'll look less silly at least
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>>379458197
kh1 is generally regarded to be a great game overall.
kh2 has a fantastic combat system.
you have shit taste brah

>>379458234
who the fuck cares? he has wings regardless
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>>379448745
Sephiroth wing, shitty AC hair, but that Midgar is fucking perfect, so we'll see.
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>>379458347
>kh1 is generally regarded to be a great game overall
>kh2
>good combat
kek keep going anon I need a good laugh
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>>379448745
just look at the image and you will know that it's a souless and shameless cashgrab.

why would FF7 have new york style houses??
can lazy artists stop being lazy and actually create something instead of going google for image references then completely copy it??

this is dirge of Cerberus all over again.
they just can't recreate the feelings and vision of FF7
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>>379457989
IT'S BIG
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>>379458417
>he doesn't think KHIIFM has some of the finest combat of all ARPGs
Stop posting any time
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>>379458470
>why would FF7 have new york style houses??
Because it's partly based on New York and in early development it was literally New York?
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>>379458297
Not really, looks like something form a deviantart OC. Normal levitation looks best.

>>379458347
So you admit he never had a wing in human form from the original, good to hear.
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>episodic

Yup it'll be shit. And you all with eat it up because MUH FFVII.
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>>379458532
You've never played any ARPGs have you
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>>379448745
Didn't Nomura get booted off this?
>>379457876
Not that guy but Sephiroth was a damn big surprise in KH1. Most everyone who played that game can tell you exactly how their first swing at the Platinum Match went.
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>>379458560
>Normal levitation looks best.
It really didn't.
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>>379458553
>in early development it was literally New York
sauce
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>>379448745
Nomura has never made a good game and he's only made a few good character designes.
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Realistically, when will this game come out? 2025?
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>>379458417
your taste is SHIT.

>>379458592
lol name one good ARPG that even compares to KH2FM. i fucking dare you

>>379458560
>So you admit he never had a wing in human form from the original, good to hear.
are you blind? i said who the fuck cares. he has wings in his final form, so why can't he have it in his normal form?
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>>379458608
Not him but it worked because of how goofy the art was. This was a game where weird shit happened on screen all the time and Cloud would just turn and give the camera a "fuck if I know" shrug.

That anon probably isn't considering that normal levitation just isn't going to work for the presented art style. The truth is every single cutscene is going to be completely different.
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>>379458732
2019
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>>379458763
>KHfag THIS MAD his shit series is getting BTFO
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>>379458838
i'm so fucking mad dude about to smash this keyboard.
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>>379458947
You should stop posting Nomura, you have games to ruin
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>>379448745
why is sephiroth a giant? Was he always this big and just never noticed.
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Ah yes FF threads, always so insightful
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>FF15 was garbage
>FF7R looks like the exact same game as FF15 with an FF7 skin

Yes, I see no way this can or will fail.

And no fanboys, FF15 has not made Square a fucking dime. Keeping a project in development for as long as FF15 was cannot produce an income unless they sell 10 million.
Even Square accidentally admitted this (which was retconned but let's be real, that number didn't come out of nowhere).


It's over. Let it die.
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>>379458812
No way in hell.
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>>379459010
Was Mufasa also a giant?
Stop taking key art literally
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>>379459018
ff fans have shit taste, what else is new?
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>>379458995
i have games to perfect.

>>379459053
combat is different. 7R uses KH commands. XV is just action type game
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>>379459115
Prove that he isn't giant.
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Nomura has never directed a good video game.

Probably because he's a fucking artist, but that's just my guess.
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>>379459195
>he's a fucking artist
*autist
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>>379458653
It's pretty common knowledge among fans, always making it's way in "did you know" shit on youtube

https://www.polygon.com/a/final-fantasy-7

This has some info on it and is honestly worth a read regardless. It gives you a lot of insight on the original game.
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>>379458812
>tfw first part in 2019
>new console generation will inevitably happen before part 2
>SE being the graphics whores that they are will remake all the assets like fucking idiots and start over for part 2, meaning a 2025 release for the full thing probably is entirely likely
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>>379459195
And yet he played a huge role in creating FF7, but people always just know him as the "artist".
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>>379459235
Isnt he also an artist though?
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>>379458653
Just google it, it eventually became Parasite Eve. Aya is basicly just Cloud in a dress in the FF8 engine
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>>379459316
He ruined VII
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>>379459160

15 promised us KH-style combat too. If you're somehow, a dozen numbered entries after the series died, still whiteknighting for Final Fantasy it may be time to end life.

And you wanna' try to swallow the real bitter pill of truth? KH combat is a repetitive shallow bore. The series made bank on pandering to Disney fans and FF-nostalgia.
Not the great combat engine. Bringing this up as some selling point is beyond silly.
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>>379459186
Not that Anon but Crsis Core FFVII, Advent Children, FFVII, the Dissidia games, the Kingdom Hearts game/s he appeared in and similars. KeyArt is supposed to look cool, not to reflect a thing accurately.
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>implying this and KH3 will be shown or talked about at E3

Enjoy getting cucked AGAIN
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>>379459490
>15 promised us KH-style combat too.
And then Tabata changed the combat system not once, but twice.
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>>379459316
>Limit Breaks
>Couple of Story Elements, such as Who Fucking Cares' death
HUGE role.
FFVII is shit after Midgar
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>>379459587

And surprise surprise it turned out like absolute hot garbage.
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>>379449774
Hmm, This looks exactly like the beast resurrection scene from the animated Beauty and the Beast.

Modern Square is exactly like modern Bioware
creatively bankrupt and all the good creators has left ages ago.
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>>379459459
Of course he did anon, of course. Half the cast being killed in less than an hour and the whole cast dying at the end would totally be better
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>>379459490
KH combat is the most superior type of combat in any RPG that has any type of action combat in it and you can't say anything to disprove that fact.

when nomura was actually working on Versus, it was KH styled combat. when it became final fantasy XV, tabata changed it to a more action oriented type. just look at the trailer of 7R, when cloud does that first sword combo on the soldier, the soldier is actually getting stunned and hit like clouds sword has weight to it. there is absolutely nothing like that in XV. XV has a very inferior type of lock on, which 7R won't have as you can tell. making it more like a battleground like KH
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>>379458653
>Sakaguchi intended the story to take place in modern New York City in the year 1999. Several of the staff were working in parallel on Chrono Trigger, and development for Final Fantasy VII was interrupted when the other project became significant enough to require the help of director Yoshinori Kitase and other designers. Some of the ideas originally considered for Final Fantasy VII ended up in Chrono Trigger and other ideas, such as the New York setting and the sorceress character Edea, were kept unused until the later projects Parasite Eve and Final Fantasy VIII respectively

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Development_of_Final_Fantasy_VII
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>>379451282

I thought this was a guitar hero screenshot judging by a quick glance of the thumbnail.
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>>379448745
>He thinks Nomura
He already has, multiple times.
He's even managed to kill several games he wasn't even involved with, due to his budget overflows.

I hate that wanker with a burning passion.
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>>379459823
Compilation is garbage, it's all under his direction too. He couldn't get a fucking crossover series with disney right, what makes you think he can do a remake correct.
>>379459840
So you really haven't played any other ARPG in your life
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>>379459840
>KH combat is the most superior type of combat in any RPG

I am so glad you opened with this line so that I didn't have to read the rest of your nonsense. Thank you for that.
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>>379458417
Kill yourself
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Gotta give it to Tabata, he will just turn Midgar into a movie, make Cloud the only playable character, make you run around two empty areas for 10-15 hours and the last bit is a corridor where sephiroth scares you every now and then. Oh and cup noodles of course
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>>379459936
Go ahead and name one ARPG that you think even comes remotely close to anything in KH.

>>379459943
That just means you should have killed yourself earlier for having garbage taste.
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>>379459991
Kingdom Hearts fans are so easily triggered by the truth
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>>379459936
>it's all under his direction
It isn't though. I know you guys really hate Nomura, but it's kinda funny that it's always you guys that just make up random shit.
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>>379460042
Kill yourself
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>>379459936
>what makes you think he can do a remake correct.
Because he was a core member of the original team and the FFVII you love so much couldn't have possibly existed without him
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>>379459808
>all the good creators has left ages ago
Except they didn't leave, they were forced out or just blatantly fired. Shit went down as soon as Square and Enix became Square-Enix, and both companies died that day.

>There are anons so young and/or ignorant that they love FFXII and are going to buy the cash cow port
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I'm still not convinced that it won't lose some depth by dropping the turn-based combat.

Part of the reason turn-based combat worked was because it allowed you to manually manage 3 (or in other FFs, more) party members effectively. No time or turns were wasted by incompetent AIs that didn't know a Cure from a Cure2.

And that's my biggest gripe by far. There is no way the game can remain as complex (which wasn't a lot to begin with) as it was pre-remake, because there is simply enough no way to control all 3 party members as effectively on-the-fly.

You can't have bosses that multi-status-ailment your characters while dealing a varied amount of damage and causing other effects now. Why? Because if I'm blinded and poisoned my AI might pop a Remedy instead of an Antidote on Aeris, who doesn't need to be cured of the blind anyway because she doesn't rely on physical attacks.

I just don't see a way they can keep the little complexity FF7 offered in a real-time setting. It just won't work.
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Who cares. Everyone on /v/ will hate it no matter how it turns out.
They'd even hate a 1:1 remake because you'd run through "huge" cities with 4-5 houses and high poly models and then they'd have to remember how small FF7 actually is
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>>379453231

>OMG y is "/v/" so blind 2 mai brothership fantasies of carr drivin n anal male ejaculatin' fantasies durin the campin n "WANNA GO FISHING?" burly voice cookin' n talkin n stuff n fightin enemies n congratulatin n hold square 2 win n chocoboholic fanfic pretty princess durin open world rinse n repeat OMG

If you need to ask why at this point, then it's true. You were born in 1999.
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>>379460231
A core member. Member is the key word. Nomura has shown time and time again that he can't be trusted with this level of control. The dude needs to be kept under watch. He is the guy who decided FFXV should be a musical because he saw Les Misérables,
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>>379460313

I still hold the merging of Square and Enix up as a mistake. Enix was always more into the traditional JRPG affair, refining the core concepts, while Square thought they could find some weird middle-ground through ATB systems.

They both had their charm, but it's clear that they wanted to turn their combined charm into a nice pile of money.

Which sucked because a lot of said charm died right there.
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>>379460368
I don't think he was defending xv anon
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>>379460096
>>379460231
>It isn't though
Who handed off that pile of shit crisis core to tabata? Nomura. Who made the pile of garbage Advent Children? Nomura Who has had a hand in every piece of VII media since the game was released? Nomura. It's like you're too delusional to see the giant mistake Square made handing this project off to him. He wasn't responsible for the majority of the story in VII or the combat or the programming or being the lead developer. He's a fucking artist.
>>379460098
Keep crying faggot, the truth doesn't change.
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>>379460409
>He is the guy who decided FFXV should be a musical because he saw Les Misérables,
Would have been better than what we got.
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>>379460409
>muh muhsical
oh god it's this autist
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>>379460409
Many things in FFVII came from Nomura as uncontested additions, including character personalities and backstories, Aerith's death, and his adamant refusal to let any other party members die in order to keep her's impactful.

>He is the guy who decided FFXV should be a musical because he saw Les Misérables,
But it was never a musical.
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>>379460507
>Keep crying faggot, the truth doesn't change.
What truth? The only truth here is that you have shit taste you fucking nigger.
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>>379460314
>FF
>depth
That only really applies to two FF games and/or if you go for really low level runs. In most FFs if you just follow the normal leveing progress you can just auto attack kill basicly the whole story except for 2-3 final bossses and some super bosses.
FF has always been a casual grahic showcase and this one won't change that.
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>>379460657
>KHfag still crying bloody murder
Keep going it's hilarious.
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>>379460507
>blaming Nomura for what Tabata did
Top desperation
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>>379460581
Just about anything would have really so that's not saying too much.

>>379460638
>But it was never a musical.

Obviously not, because everyone told him he was fucking retarded.
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>>379460638
>intentionally taking off half the sentence so you can be a fucking retard

I bet you're >>379459943. You should kill yourself. You're a type of cancer that should be eliminated.

>>379460713
Doesn't change you have shit taste.
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>>379460668

If you read my post, (and I can see why you wouldn't, it turned out a lot longer than I expected) you'll realize that I didn't claim that FF7 was an insanely complex game. Quite the contrary I said that there was actually very little depth on display at all.

But like the sewer boss in the early game that did the tidal wave thing, there was always a very tiny (but existing!) tactical element to the game. And for my young teenage brain, that was fun.

I don't see FF7R maintaining that little tactical depth, because it removes one of the only tactical aspects of the game.
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>>379448745
>Outside of Dissidia and other spinoffs, Cloud will never have his actual old hair back

I'm disappointed already.
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>>379460872
That's more depth than most RPGs. 7R will be a completely different game, and there can be hidden mechanics that people overlook in action RPGs.
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>>379461097
>there can be hidden mechanics that people overlook in action RPG
Sounds like 90% of KH2 players
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>>379460314
>There is no way the game can remain as complex (which wasn't a lot to begin with) as it was pre-remake, because there is simply enough no way to control all 3 party members as effectively on-the-fly.
You are a fucking retard. KH1's mechanics are comparable in complexity and arguably more interesting than FFVII's, let alone 2FM's. This turn based=brainpower meme needs to die.

>You can't have bosses that multi-status-ailment your characters
>wanting bosses to be status focused (which you can become passively immune to) in a fucking Action game
I hate RPGfags.

>while dealing a varied amount of damage and causing other effects now
>all attacks in real time combat have to deal the same damage with no rider effects
For God's sake think before you type.

>Because if I'm blinded and poisoned my AI might pop a Remedy instead of an Antidote on Aeris
Why would you give a shit about your allies at all, they're item mules and occasionally a special attack resource.

>I just don't see a way they can keep the little complexity FF7 offered in a real-time setting.
Try playing any decent Action game, it should be readily apparent.
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>>379460826
>intentionally taking off half the sentence
No?
There was nothing after Les Miserables in the original post
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>>379461210
>I'll mash x to win!
>This is way more complex than turn-based combat!
Seize.
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>>379461210
>I hate RPGfags.

We can all fucking tell.
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>>379461210
>Why would you give a shit about your allies at all, they're item mules and occasionally a special attack resource.

You need to stop Anon. Your opinions are meaningless and you're not convincing anyone.
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>>379461386
>I'll mash x to win!
>the game isn't complex if I play like a retard and refuse to use 90%+ of my options
You RPGfags really can't grasp anything beyond paper scissors rock elemental systems, can you?
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>>379461386
>I'll mash x to win!
That's what i did 95% of the time in FF5 to X and in XII you didn't even have to mash
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>>379461535
>Your opinions are meaningless
>opinions
What?
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>>379461386
If you want to pull inputs into the argument, then turn-based combat is literally just pressing X
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>>379461557
It's getting sad Anon.
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>>379461640
>doesn't deny RPGtards think elemental color coding is 'depth'
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>>379461386
I remember playing against Shadow Sae in Persona 5 the other day on hard mode with my friend watching. Buffs, debuffs, attack. That's all I ever fucking did, mostly the entire game. It was easy and brainless.

In KH1 fighting Final Ansem on level 50 in Expert Mode was a challenge. I had to perfectly manage my MP restoration and magic to even survive, and trying to deflect hits. It took more response time, more brainpower.
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Hopefully it'll release in my lifetime and hopefully they'll keep the command menu system. I know a lot of peple hate it, but the KH system is basicly the FF combat system in realtime, you have every command like attack, magic, summon, items, limits etc. You jsut actually have to move, block and dodge yourself instead of relying on numbers
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sup

I live in Tokyo, a friend of me is a game programmer (he works for another company) and knows some jap dudes working on FFVIIR, apparently Nomura is a huge cunt and doesn't nothing just like old days. The game will be a mess. Lot of cut content.
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>>379461935
doesn't nothing indeed
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>>379460314
I think we're gonna see something interesting.>>379451282

For the past few years I've been noticing a trend in srpgs and jrpgs.
They're dropping strictly aciton or turn-based systems in favor of hybrids.
Xenoblade, FFXII, LR:FFXIII, Valkyria Chronicles and many more have taken drastic steps to discover new gameplay possibilities.

It's a really cool ongoing experiment and in the future it'll bring us some exciting stuff and this is apart of the reason I'm pretty excited for the remake.
VII was an extremely influential game and so whatever the remake does will be analyzed and used as influence for other jrpgs.
I'm really hoping they do something
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>>379461935
Indeed
Bring back Sakaguchi so he can make Terra Battle 3 maybe?
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>>379461935
You sound like that one retard who claims all of his friends laughed when he asked if they thought FFXIII was good.
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>>379461935
>doesn't nothing
What did he mean by this?
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>>379462118
I think he meant to say "does nothing like the old days"
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>>379462168
Good, then the KH2 battle planner is free to make a great game.
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>>379448745
Has he ever not failed us?
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>>379461935
Man, that must be the reason why they still keep him and put him on projects non stop.
Maybe they should put Tabata on 2-3 porjects in the lead role at the same time and also have him draw characters for 5-6 games and see how he holds up since people seem to love him so much
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>>379461975
>>379462118

does anything, sorry I'm not native

the game is apparently story-focused, so say goodbye to the Fort Condor or other things like this. I don't have so much infos about the details of the gameplay because my friend is a little bitchy and likes to keep the secrets.

btw Shenmue 3 is a disaster. Yuu is literally Tabata 2.0
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>>379462423
Fort Condor is part of the story
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>>379462423
>the game is apparently story-focused
>meaning it is highly unlikely to be open world
Thank Christ.
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>>379462460
I doubt this guy has connections to anyone on the game.
Take anything posted here with a large grain of salt if there is no evidence or credible source.
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>>379448745
>he thinks some mentally retarded faggot who regularly faps to emo gay porn and can't step letting us all know and never made a good "video game" in his life will fail us

He seems to be pretty smart.
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>my friend who knows some guys said
kek, tell me more attention fag
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>>379462423
>btw Shenmue 3 is a disaster
You don't need fake inside friends to know that. Just look at the fucking update videos, it looks like a bad early PS3 game and the made no progress
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>>379462034
There's still plenty that keep it 1000% turn based. Dragon Quest, MegaTen, Mario RPGs of all things, etc
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>>379462863
Yes that is true, there is still a very strong market for such games, but the prevalence of these "hybrid" rpgs has been increasing over the years.
It seems to be the direction a lot of studios are moving in.
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Late night /v/ is weird, especially around this time of the year
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>>379463080
how so?
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At this point i don't even want a release date, i just want to see new footage. How the fuck have we not seen a new clip of 7R and KH3 in like 2 years, not even from the same areas or something.
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>>379463505
>KH3 in like 2 years
I thought we got stuff last year?
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>>379448745
He will and already has. He hasn't released a new console game since fucking 2005 and any big game he's attached to falls into dev hell.
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>>379463615
I think we got a snippet but we haven't had a full blown trailer since dec 2015
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>>379463724
I really though we got some new stuff to coincide with 2.8, though I might be confusing my memories.
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>>379463863
We did get small news like drive forms are back and that reaction commands are being heavily modified among other things
We just didn't have a trailer
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>>379463505
>in like 2 years
really makes you think
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>>379464035
>sonic 06 came out after kh2
>compares them anyway
Desperate
kys barry
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I hope he does. Fuck SE for killing Hitman.
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>>379464017
Well yeah, it really does. Even if thry make slow progress or some shit, there has to be something to show off. It just makes it feel like they made no progress at all since 2015
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>>379453192
It looks nothing like XV you retard. XV actually is good while this doesn't look good.
>>379455821
Go away 7R-kun
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>>379459053
Jesus christ you're fucking retarded. It broke even on day one and made profit ever since and was also fucking great. 7T looks nothing like XV
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Oh well here comes the endless wave of angry replies and parroting. Not like the thread was good to begin with
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>>379459808
Why are you posting the old already dumped Noctis design before his redesign?
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>>379464186
What a strange feeling. It feels like I've already played the game.
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>>379464186
>there has to be something to show off
.2 basically was that
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>>379458603
What he meant is by now Sephiroth is well known. It doesnt matter if you show him on any promotional Media. Everyone will know hes in the game and there will be no surprise at the end of Midgar.
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>>379459840
Dude shut the fuck up. The command menu in versus was just pasted on and was never shown being used and also didn't have attack as part of the command menu either. The basic combos and shit he did in 2011 can still be done in the final game with the same exact animations too.

7r hasn't even shown if we can even jump let alone if there's aerial combat.

Oh and all Nomura said in 2011 was that it was KH like as in versus an ARPG in relation to similarities, in 2013 however he said it's not like KH because there would be no point in two games playing the same.
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>>379464186
If they don't show a new trailer this year at E3 or TGS i give up. Even if it has some problems the dev team must have made some progress since then
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>>379460595
>>379460638
Nomura said it he wanted to turn it into a musical twice, he was serious.

>>379460581
Fuck off nomuracuck.
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>>379461210
Fuck off SBK91.
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>>379464943
>it into a musical twice
eh would've been something different at least
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>>379462365
Tai Yasue = co director of KH3, actually in Osaka with the dev team.
Hamaguchi = Project Lead of FF7R, literally confirmed he's in charge of development a few weeks ago.

What does Nomura do other than draw shit and input ideas? Nomura's name has been used for marketing purposes ever since they pushed his name on FF7, Kitase knows this which is why he keeps Nomura around. But don't act for a fucking second that he's a competent director when Nomura himself said he's terrible at managing others which is why he has his co directors there to do it for him.
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>>379465353
I'm sure you know all about video game development and know everything that goes down at square enix just from a couple interviews
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>>379464102
And? It's the same level of shit.
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>>379465482
>it's shit because I said so
>pls stop making fun of xv by comparing it to sonic pls
kek the irony
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>>379464943
>implying XV wouldn't have been a better game if it was a musical
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>>379464356
Is this the part where you ignore dipshit Nomura fantards getting called out so you can spout more xvkun memes?
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>>379465353
So it's their fault that it takes so long? No can't have that of course, that would make Nomura look sligtly better.
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>>379465460
Oh but apparently you somehow do?

>>379465582
>gets btfo because kh2 is literally sonic 06 tier getting on the enemies back, while the xv comparison is deliberately lying about what's happening when they aren't even the same.
Stay retarded cuck.

>>379465589
No it wouldn't have, fuck off nomuracuck.
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>>379465749
>Oh but apparently you somehow do?
Nope, but at least I don't claim to like you do
I'm just pointing out how stupid you are
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>>379465706
It's all their fault but nomura is still the originator of the problem
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>>379465027
Are you jealous he's done a Lv 1 run and you haven't?
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>>379465851
>He
Fuck off SBK91. You keep bullshitting and getting BTFO like no tomorrow in every thread you're in.
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>>379465893
You seem to have a problem thinking everyone is the same person
They are not. Grow up
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>>379465971
>Fuck off SBK91.
I'm not him or any of your other boogeymen. However, like him I have cleared the game at Lv 1. Have you?

>You keep bullshitting
Like KH doing HP % based damage better than XV?
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>>379465971
Threadly reminder XV kun thinks Haste-like effects aren't useful in real time combat, the 9999 damage cap in most FF games isn't a damage cap and Gravisphere=Demi.
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>>379465851
desu that's not exactly hard in xv, it was clearly never meant to be played at or balanced for lvl1. I just kinda gave up when i got close to chapter 13 because it badicly changrs nothing except for having less HP which doesn't mean that much in xv. One thing it's good for is to show you how overpoweres food can be, you can oneshot most things with the right ignis recipe.
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>>379465749
>No it wouldn't have, fuck off nomuracuck.
I'm pretty sure it would have been more fun that way

FFXV's MMO-lite design philosophy wasn't the greatest route to take
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>>379465996
>t-that wasn't me but I'm siding with him and responding to a post addressed to him!?
And more lies keep coming.

>>379466104
It's so fucking obvious when you post SBK91, you're so pathetic.
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>>379465996
He'll probably say you switched IPs.

>>379466187
>desu that's not exactly hard in xv
I know, but for some reason XV kun is terrified of doing an easy restricted run in a game he likes.
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>>379466325
Look at the post above you now, he pretty much just did
Fucking idiot
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>>379466252
>It's so fucking obvious when you post SBK91
Because the name says Anonymous?

NOTE: You forgot to update us on your Lv 1 run. What's the holdup?
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>>379466403
>thinking haste is somehow a thing used in ARPGs
Please XV kun, explain how speeding up attack animations, allowing for higher DPS, new stunlocks, and safer attacks isn't useful in a real time setting. Like DMC3, for instance, where DT speeds up attack animations.

>you have no idea how damage caps work
'if damage > 9999, damage=9999'. So complicated.

>don't know how system max damage output works
The 'max damage output' that only exists because Square artificially limits it, as IZJS showed.

>doesn't know that gravisphere is literally graviga aka demi?
Based on the fact it is entirely mechanically different?
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>>379466707
Not an argument.
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>episodic

Boy oh boy, I can't wait to finally fight Sephiroth in 2023, after paying 500 dollars for the last 10 episodes.
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>>379466868
Fuck off with your lack of arguments.
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>>379466960
Prove it
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>>379466891
not that kind of episodic

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/04/11/final-fantasy-vii-remake-interview-game-informer.aspx
>So, if we’re just looking at each of these parts, one part should be on par with the scale of one Final Fantasy XIII game.
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>>379466862
>claims poster proves he is boogeyman X
>poster name says Anonymous
Nice deflection.

>The sad thing is you actually think you know what you're talking about when you are always wrong.
Point to anywhere I was wrong in >>379466747 and be specific, explain exactly why it was wrong, don't just spout insults, abuse caps lock and say BTFO like your usual retarded self.
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>>379466862
If I were this obsessed with defending a videogame, I'd seriously consider killing myself.
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>>379448745
he already did with FFXV
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>>379466960
That doesn't look like an update on your Lv 1 run to me. Why is that? Have you not started it yet?
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>>379466634
>Oh and how is it an MMO because they're adding online multiplayer coop
That's not why it plays like an MMO.

It plays like an MMO because it's filled with meaningless sidequests that are all basically the same task.
It plays like an MMO because late- and post-game content amounts to absurdly beefy enemies that make the battles longer, not harder.
It plays like an MMO by offering limited-time events.

Have you ever played an MMO? It should be obvious how XV's design decisions are influenced by MMO trends.

Online co-op (which is something I didn't actually know about) really only furthers the pursuit.
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>>379467213
you're forgetting the character creator! this is totally not an mmo! :^)
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>>379466862
>HAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT MY SIDES.
Why would you do this
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>>379467213
FFXIV soes endgame aand optional content way better than XV imo even for an MMO, you actually have to think and learn in the Extreme fights.
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>>379462034
>For the past few years I've been noticing a trend in srpgs and jrpgs.
That's because Japan is now like 10 years behind the West.
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>>379467001
See >>379466960

>>379467052
>SBK91 still on fucking damage control
>SBK91 still thinks KH, Mana, Ys, Witcher, soulborne, and other ARPGs need haste
Really so where's the haste spell SBK91?

Or are you ignoring that stuff like armiger in XV attacks at the fastest DPS compared to any regular combo in the game with any other weapon? Oh you're just a dumb fuck who knows literally nothing about action RPGs and things hacknslash plain action games are the same thing as ARPGs. You're proven wrong. Fuck off.

You still have no fucking clue what a damage cap is nor do you even know why 9999/99999/999999s even show up.

>b-but that doesn't count it's a-artificial
HAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT SBK91 GOING FULL RETARD HAHAHAHAHAHA

>SBK91 the eternal cuck literally doesn't know that gravisphere is graviga which is demi

SBK91 eternally BTFO and yet you're still going to greentext this post word for word because you're a cuck in denial about DMC3, Bayonetta, FFXV, Ninja Gaiden being better than KH2FM.
Eat shit you whiny cunt.
>oh no he said mean words baaaaaaw

>>379467080
You should do that anyway.

>>379467113
>SBK91 still samefagging.
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>>379455035
Square Enix has 4000 employees. Fuck off with your "no manpower" nonsense.
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>>379467213
>still has no idea what an MMO is
>doesn't know that the sidequests are the same exact thing as FF1-9s sidequests are
>thinks time limited hunts are an MMO thing
>Thinks basic online elements means MMO
Just stop posting already, you literally have no idea what an MMO is.

>>379467275
Guess Souls games are MMOs too by this dumb fuck logic.
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>>379467653
Prove it
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>>379467835
When your content is limited to real-world time and not in-game time, yes, that is very much the design philosophy of an MMO.

Unless... you can still participate in the Moogle Chocobo Carnival? Or replay the timed missions from April?
Can you do that?

Note, I said MMO-lite.
Obviously it is not an MMO, because it isn't a huge server-based world hosting many players at once.

But to insist that FFXV's core design elements do not follow, and at times emulate, those commonly found in MMORPGs is delusional.
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>>379468375
Prove it
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wtf
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>>379460368
Relax if you normally type like an autistic monkey of course youd hold on to Muh nostalgia, ff7 story was just as garbage as all the games before it, I haven't seen a setting where you go on a Roadtrip with your friends, and it'd actually something relatable, I was born in 94 and I'm not an autistic fuck wit like you
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>>379468768
>I'm not an autistic fuck wit like you
Yes you are
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>>379468893
Did you learn that one from middle school anon?
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>>379468382
So you have no fucking clue what an MMO is and think basic online elements means MMO now. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>379468382
Is Hitman an MMO now because it has time limited stuff? No.
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All this talk of MMO.
Just saw Stormblood's trailer.
Just hit me that despite its own flaws, of which there are many,

FFXIV still feels more like a Final Fantasy than XIII or XV did.

Oh boy.
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>>379468939
Aren't you in middle school, anon?
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>>379470597
XV feels more like an FF than 14 does, 14 is just a themepark with an FF skin. XV feels like an actual FF world like 6 or 7 do.
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>>379465353
XV actually developed by the Nomura, Tabata just a fucking marketer
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>>379448745
you guys do know gameplay was show like over a year ago and it is not turn based and it is bull shit ff13 battle system right?
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>>379471830
>it is bull shit ff13 battle system
that's a new one

why do you think that?
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>>379471830
>ff13 battle system right?
Are you stupid
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Bazztek is shitting up the thread again, time to abandon it.
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>>379448745

It's not that Nomura will fail. It's that no one could live up to the expectations of the FFVII fanbase. No matter what he does, the fans will bitch about even the smallest change. They will want the exact same game.

Even something as small as changing "Let's Mosey" or removing the dolphin jumping game will trigger them so hard, it will lead to boycotts and massive negative social media campaigns. And Nomura has already announced much bigger changes than that.
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>>379472118
He should stop going in Dragonball Super threads on /a/.
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>>379472370
Explain further
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>>379472370
butthurt toyocuck :^)
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>>379472472
He is defending DB super with a passion, fighting against mangafags and DBZfags.

Just like he defends XV from Versusfags and... actually everyone because XV is shit and everyone is shitting on it.

Don't know where he gets the time to do so much shitposting i have even seen him shitting up youtube comments in Final Peasant videos.
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>>379472624
>He is defending DB super with a passion, fighting against mangafags and DBZfags.
How do you know it's him for sure
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>>379472664
I've been a witness to his shitposting for the past 4 years, i can recognize his posting style and images with ease.

pic related.
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>>379472664

I don't know about this Bazztek guy. But if its an alias for FFXV-Kun, he has a VERY obvious posting style. Formats all his posts in the same way and makes the same dumb points every time. He's as predictable as Hillary Clinton's speeches.
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So do you think they're gonna go full body horror with fluids spraying, tendrils erupting, flesh melting and shit when Jenova transforms out of the various pieces/clones thrown about or will we be going the retarded modern black magic smoke route again?
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>>379472952
Yes, bazztek used to be his most commonly used username until /v/ discovered him on twitter in multiple other forums

https://twitter.com/_bazztek

Everyone who has been here for more than 6 months can recognize his autism.
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>>379472927
>the higher ups who forced him onto that
He made that up on the spot to defend tabata didn't he
>consistently bitching about nomura
>calls him a hack and a manlet even though he said before he doesn't hate him
Just nonstop lying
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>>379449686
>Sephiroth was a big reveal at the end of Midgar, this puts him front and center of the entire story.

Best part is that Sephiroth fucking sucks. He has been literally killed or beaten several times already. They even had a final showdown between Cloud and ol' Sephy at the end of FF7 and in the movie and both times Cloud beat his lilly white boi ass. Sephiroth just isn't a threat because the only thing threatening about him is his raw strength and he apparently loses to Cloud.

They could only milk this so much before it became boring and stupid and here they are focusing on Sephiroth more when there is an entire world of possibilities in the FF7 universe.
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>>379473505

The problem is Sephiroth is the most obsessed over character in the FF universe. Even if Nomura wanted to limit his role in the story, he can't. Because all the fangirls and half the fanboys would riot.

But you're completely right that Sephy is pointless. Even in the original FFVII, he was being used by Mojo (and a host of other characters). He's the biggest tool in the FF series besides Kain.
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>>379473505
He works in his stand alone game. He's an enemy from beyond the grave threatening to return with a seemingly inexplicable hold over the main protag. This is used effectively in exactly one game.

Everyone knows this but the expanded universe was a fucking mistake.
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>>379473763

>Everyone knows this but the expanded universe was a fucking mistake.
And a lot of the new content in FFVII:R is going to tie it to that expanded universe. Get ready for some really facepalm worthy Yuffie scenes like in Crisis Core and down syndrome Tifa from Advent Children.
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>>379473982
>And a lot of the new content in FFVII:R is going to tie it to that expanded universe

Except Nomura said multiple times in the past 5 months that FF7R for now will have nothing to do with the compilation, it's not in the plans.

This is why i hate the fucking fanbase, you cry about changes when you don't even know what is getting changed or even if it is getting changed at all.

Fucking retards tbqh.
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>>379473982
>is going to tie it to that expanded universe.
They said in interviews that it would be unlikely
>It will be difficult because there is no more continuity between the Compilation and the Remake for the moment
>https://www.psu.com/news/32337/Final-Fantasy-7-remake-of-spin-offs-on-PS4-unlikely-says-Square-Enix
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>>379474187

It is true that we don't know everything that is being done. But you're no better than he is by blindly defending Nomura based on his word. SquareEnix as a company has lied so much, especially about Final Fantasy, that nothing they say should be trusted. And even if Nomura has no plans to shoe-horn in the expanded universe, he doesn't have exclusive control over the game. Final Fantasy XII, XIII and XV ring a bell? All games with a fuckton of meddling from higher ups. Now how likely do you think it is that the highest profile remake in the companies history might have some changes done to it before release?
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>>379474372
Where did i defend Nomura you fucking sperg? where did i even mention him in my post?

Am i defending Nomura for telling retards like you to chill the fuck down and wait until some actual info is released?

Is it defending Nomura for telling retards like you to stop spouting your retarded opinions without even doing proper research?

I don't give a fuck about Nomura and i don't a fuck about SE, i am just telling it like it is. Stop whining over shit you know nothing about, either do research or wait for more info instead of spouting nonsense as facts.
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>>379474372
>by blindly defending Nomura based on his word
Oh please
>They say instead that they might put compilation stuff in
>Nah I don't believe it, it'll never happen
>Nomura stated so himself, here's the quote
This would've happened and you know it
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>>379474528

>Am i defending Nomura for telling retards like you to chill the fuck down and wait until some actual info is released?
Um..you're the one getting mad. And Nomura has released some info about the game. You just cited it.

Its actions like this that makes you look like you're 'defending' Nomura. Or at least SquareEnix. And I was pointing out that so many previous FF games have had huge promises and hype before release that turned out to be the exact opposite once the game released.

Its your blind hope vs my past experience with SquareEnix games.
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>>379474187
Nothing wrong with giving DoC, CC and AC cameos.
As long as it doesn't get in the way of the story or alter it.
Like seeing a Loveless poster.
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>>379474812
>Like seeing a Loveless poster.
Fuck you and your decent bait.
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>>379472952
Whoever this Bazztek/XV-kun dude is has to stop being a faggot in every rpg thread and get the fuck out already.
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>>379474919
How little you know anon!

A lot of the FF7 compilation material has its root on the base game too if you are unaware.
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>>379475067
>stop being a faggot in every rpg thread and get the fuck out already.
We tell him this every time he shows up but he doesn't listen. Even when mods ban him he'll just start ban evading
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>>379473763
>>379473761
>>379473505

None of you realise that Sephiroth is one of the most powerful being in all of Video Games. Cloud only wins due to CiS and\or PiS.
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>>379475087
No. Fuck you for calling something in the base game a reference to the shit that came after.
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>>379475248

>None of you realise that Sephiroth is one of the most powerful being in all of Video Games.
You really haven't played many games, have you? Or even watched many anime. Heck, Sephiroth isn't even that overpowered in his own series. He's like a weaker version of Zeromus.
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>>379475446
Even the Buster Sword? Its references Zack and Angeal, which then references Cloud's sword.
Because they are all using the same sword.
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>>379475067

Yeah, he even invades Dragon Quest and Suikoden threads and goes out of his way to make up shit about those series he hasn't even played. On a site where everyone is a loser, he really stands out as an exceptional one.
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>>379475590
I hate you.
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>>379475248
>None of you realise that Sephiroth is one of the most powerful being in all of Video Games.
Actually as far as JRPGs go Seph's pretty low tier.
Dude's at most a world class threat. JRPG's have been going into multiversal bullshit for years.
>>379475591
Oh come on what did Suikoden do to deserve this shit?
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>>379475723

>Oh come on what did Suikoden do to deserve this shit?
It had positive threads with constructive discussion.
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>>379475818
Shhh don't mention it or it will become more popular and faggots will do this with it more and that series doesn't deserve this.
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>>379459053

>fastest selling final fantasy in history
>has not made a fucking dime

lmeo
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>>379477428
>fastest selling final fantasy in history
>shipped the amount it would take to break even on day 1
>first world wide simultaneous release
>still hasn't outsold xiii yet
While it has made money, it isn't really that big of a success as square would like you to believe. It probably still needs another million or 2 to truly be a success commercially anyway. It's kind of in a similar situation with that new ghostbusters movie where it broke even and made almost a hundred million more than it's budget but it's still considered a failure
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>>379451282
>ATTACK WHEN THE TAIL IS UP
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>>379468382
Except you objectively do far more in FFXV than any MMO from attack combos with directoinal inputs, warpstrikes, warps, aerial combat, dodges, blocks, aerial dodges, hit recoveries, attack cancelling through blink dodge, aerial combat, parries, counters, magic, armiger, linkstrikes, blindsides, techs, weapon switching with actual variety in combat through weapon types and royal arms, and with far more enemy variety too.

>>379475591
>>379475818
Why are you samefagging?
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>>379480368
Why reset your ip and bump this ded thread
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>>379480475
Not an argument.
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>>379480568
I know, it's a question
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>>379460507
Wrong. Nojima and Kitase wrote AC and CC

Nomura had nothing to do with AC other than directing the battle scenes and a few of the character designs, AC was stated by Kitase and Nojima long before Nomura was even involved.

And Nomura had nothing to do with CC other than the character designs too.

On 8 the only thing Nomura did was character designs and battle visual direction, and on 10, 13 and 15 the only thing Nomura did was the character design for the main cast.

Fuck off XV-kun
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>>379460507
Nomura wrote 7's base story and was the one who wrote that Aeris dies, he is the one who talked about it in interviews, not Sakaguchi. Nomura is the one who talked about death saying that death is sudden and unpredictable, that originally he knew someone was to die but that he didn't want it to be Barret because that would be too predictable which is why he wrote that Aeris dies, because that wasn't predictable, Nomura wrote the whole base story and all the characters of 7. The only thing Sakaguchi wrote on 7 was the lifestream concept, then Kitase and Nojima took Nomura's base story+characters and mixed it with Sakaguchi's lifestream concept and fleshed out the story.
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>>379480735
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/318789876/#318868594
What
>>379480808
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/321593779/#321601737
The fuck
Are you copypasting old posts and arguing with yourself xv-kun
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>>379481282
Not an argument, fuck off.
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>>379481417
Haah! Rude!!
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>>379481417
Kek knew it
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>>379464745
Top webm look so much better. From both gameplay point of view and UI.
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>>379472927
Holy fuck this guy is really sick. He is like spelling the mantra everywhere, same shit on every single resource. How he is not even tired? Its not that hard to let it go already after 5 months and accept that the game is mediocre.
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>>379449774

Is this real?
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>>379480368
>Clustered mess
>Boring as fuck combat that is essentially button mashing at its best
>Action movie blur effect
>Emotionless boyband characeters

Such a waste and its really killed my hype for the remake of ff7.
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Will SE ask how to make a game again?
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>>379480368

>people think this pointless jumping around looks good

looks like someone tried making dmc or ninja gaiden but fucked up severely
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>>379483730
Is that real?
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>>379482464
>>379483809


Yes.
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Are people still shitting all over each other in here?
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>>379484025

I don't think so. People are just laughing at FFXV, and I think you-know-who was banned.
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>>379484807
Who gets banned these days? Literally just change 1 value in your mac address.
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>>379448745
He already failed us with V13, anon.
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>>379472927
What shitposting? You mean the one you're doing?
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>>379473426
How does me calling Nomura a hack as a director mean I hate him? Did you ignore the part where I acknowledge he's good at drawing and should just stick to that?


>>379472624
>he thinks i post on /a/ let alone defend the dbsuper anime
No.
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>>379471698
Nah it was made properly by Tabata, Nomura was just an ideas guy making concepts while Tabata came in and fixed the project and made it good.
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>>379475067
>>379475189
>>379475591
>>379475723
Who is we? You mean fags crying because they get called out and so they spout the boogeyman username they know?
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>>379477908
But it has sold more than FF13 did in the same stage in their life. You can stop trying to downplay it's success, when even their financial report specifically cites XV as the major reason for their console sector profiting. You really have no idea how a success is defined, do you?
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>>379471698

Funnily enough, it's the other way around when you think about it.
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This remake is a complete waste of money and time. I think SE are just THAT desperate. I think if it fails to sell extraordinarily well, which is likely, then say goodbye to SE other than Dragon Quest. They will go full mobile.
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>>379486728
>But it has sold more than FF13 did in the same stage in their life

Source?
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>>379481282
It's some fag trying to falseflag as him so he can make screencaps of "proof" for his future shitposting.
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>>379486791
He's going to post shipped numbers. Doesn't matter, FF15 needed to sell 10 million to be worth it, SE admitted it a while back.
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>every thread goes to absolute shit at the mere mention of Final Fantasy XV

Worst fucking FF fanbase to date, bar none.
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>>379482942
Where is the clutter? That is all very smooth and fluid. The combat is more exciting and active than any other FF. Not an argument. They all have strong personalities and better display of character than FF casts have in the past.

Only waste here is you.

>>379483730
Good thing they aren't asking how to make a game, since they are already making all that stuff, the only thing they are asking is to see what fans want to see first out of those things so they can prioritize their workflow to make what the fans want first.

>>379483809
Yes, what's wrong with it?

>>379482464
No it's deliberately misleading and taking events out of order to shitpost with, however this is real.
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>>379467653
>Really so where's the haste spell
I didn't say Haste spell, I said Haste like effect. Please don't burn strawmen, and explain why it's useless in real time combat.

>Or are you ignoring that stuff like armiger
Armiger isn't a speed buff.

>the fastest DPS compared to any regular combo in the game with any other weapon
This has literally nothing to do with my point. But, being a retard, you can't see that.

>Oh you're just a dumb fuck who knows literally nothing about action RPGs
I said don't just spout insults XV kun.

>plain action games are the same thing as ARPGs
I didn't say ARPGs, I said real time combat, and are you implying that gaining faster attack animations in KH wouldn't help?

>You still have no fucking clue what a damage cap is
Capping damage, like Square does at 9999.

>nor do you even know why 9999/99999/999999s even show up.
Because of a terrible tradition, which Square proved is nothing more than a terrible tradition when they removed it in IZJS.

>b-but that doesn't count it's a-artificial
That's why it's a damage cap XV kun.

>GOING FULL RETARD HAHAHAHAHAHA
There's that caps lock.

>literally doesn't know that gravisphere is graviga which is demi
What does Demi mechanically do in the other FF games? I'll give you a hint, Gravisphere does not replicate this function.

>eternally BTFO
You haven't 'BTFO' me at any point. In order, you've burned a strawmen, brought up an irrelevant super state, argued from assertion with some ad hominem dropped in, then argued from assertion again. Are you incapable of staying on point?

>DMC3, Bayonetta, FFXV, Ninja Gaiden
One of these is not like the others.
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>>379484807
>people
>samefagging this desperately
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>>379487065

You're right, they're cats and dogs.
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Will this come out on PS4? Didn't they postpone this for 3 years? Won't there be a PS5 by that time?
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>>379458417
Just posting to add that you do infact have shit taste and KHIIFM is one of the best action games of all time.

Your only defense has been "u mad" you actually should kill yourself.
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>>379486979

LITERALLY 2 autistic cunts going back and forth.
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>>379486791
See their financial report.
http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/17q4outline.pdf

>>379486873
>b-but sales somehow means shipped
How are you going to desperately spin this? FFXV needed to sell 5 million to break even, which they stated at GDC, which it did and has sold 6 million.

Fuck off with your 10 million bullshit, that was nothing more than a personal goal and NOT their financial requirement for it, their actual financial requirement was 5 million which they met and then exceeded into profitability.
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>>379486979
The worst part is faggots who are in denial about XVs success who have to keep lying about XV and anything about it, then they start clinging to shitpost names so that they can act like they are in the right.
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>>379487348
>>379487401

>these post times
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>>379487053
>SBK91 crawls out of the woodworks
My fucking sides again. Holy shit.


>B-but I didn't say haste spell I said haste like effect, which means a haste spell
So where is the haste in KH, Mana, Ys, Witcher, soulborne, and other ARPGs?

>a-armiger isn't a speedbuff except for the fact that it increases speed of movement and attack speed vastly with the highest DPS out of any attack in the game
>b-but the thing you called me out on doesnt' count for no reason
>He thinks using Armiger doesn't increase your movement speed and the speed at which attacks happen while it's active
My fucking sides

>BAAAAAW STOP SAYING MEAN WORDS
Booo hooo

>Dipshit still doesn't know the difference between ARPGs an straight up action games
So where is this haste in KH then? If it's so useful why isn't it in KH?

>Dipshit still doesn't know what fucking max attack is and doesn't know what a damage cap is.
9999 or 99999 or 999999 in games is the fucking max, multiple 9s in a row is synonymous with "this is the max attack the game can do, you are the absolute strongest". A fucking cap is someshit like if the max is 9999 then it caps it to 3000 or 2000 or anything under 9999. Learn what a fucking damage cap is already you fucking moron.

You literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about and never do.

>b-but that's artificial it doesn't count
SBK91 please shut the fuck up already you vapid utter cunt.

>S-STOP MAKING FUN OF ME

>Retard still doesn't fucking know that Demi = Gravity and that Gravisphere = Graviga/ Gravity
You literally cannot get any more fucking retarded if you tried. I mean you seriously tried to argue that Dante could beat Goku for 50 pages on Gamefags so I'm not sure why anyone would take you seriously.

And here is more of your denial over the fact that you have been uneqviovocally BTFO in every fucking thread you have ever posted in, and you have been BTFO not only here but on gamefaqs too. You've been BTFO everywhere.
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>>379487203
No KH2FM is bottom of the barrel shit. The only time it's even worth anything is against end game bosses only and only on challenge runs and even then you can still cheese the fuck out of it.
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>>379488126
>>379488187

go away
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>>379487639
>ignores the part where he seriously tried to say "b-but that was shipped not sales!??" even though it was specifically about sales.
But you gotta post your ebin reaction images and ignore when you shitpost right?

>inb4 t-that wasn't me
If it wasn't you then why the fuck are you responding to posts not addressed to you?
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>>379488367
How about you stop trying to ignore when shitposters get called out and like people defending XV aren't valid?
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We already have PS4 Dissidia, this remake isn't needed
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>>379487639
He thinks there are still anons in these god forsaken FF threads that would side with him. The negative press from FF games is always amplified five fold because of him.
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>>379488367
You go away. I don't care if you like KH or not but it's not "one of the best action games of all time".
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>>379488518
>he says as he responds to himself
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>>379488428
>>379488476
>>379488518
>>379488537
>>379488558

Seriously fuck off to an XV thread.
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What part do you want to see remade the most?

I can't wait to see the Weapon underwater.
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>>379488126
>SBK91
You sure are obsessed with this boogeyman. Is it because he's done a Lv 1 run and you haven't?

>which means a haste spell
No, it means an effect like Haste (speed buff).

>So where is the haste in KH
Where did I say it was in KH? I said it's useful in real time combat, which it is. Why did you ever so stupidly deny that?

>except for the fact that it increases speed of movement
No, it gives you three different attacks, it doesn't speed up the animations of your normal attacks, otherwise Final Form would be a Haste like effect. And again, it's irrelevant to my point, unless you're agreeing speed buffs are useful in real time combat games.

>attack speed vastly
You have a funny definition of 'vastly'.

>with the highest DPS out of any attack in the game
Damage cap breaking magic.

>He thinks using Armiger doesn't increase your movement speed
The warp strike is super slow.

>Booo hooo
I don't care about your bad insults or caps lock, I care you use them in place of actual arguments.

>still doesn't know the difference between ARPGs an straight up action games
>XV kun is still tossing ad hominems and alluding that I'm wrong despite being unable to explain why, as he can't argue my points directly

>If it's so useful why isn't it in KH?
Because, like many potentially useful abilities, the dev choose not to include it, which doesn't in any way indicate it wouldn't be useful.

>9999 or 99999 or 999999 in games is the fucking max
IZJS says otherwise. Why do you keep ignoring this?

>multiple 9s in a row is synonymous with "this is the max attack the game can do
Which is only the 'max attack' because of the damage cap, there is no reason to limit damage to an arbitrary number of digits.

>A fucking cap is someshit like if the max is 9999
The max is only 9999 because the damage cap is 9999, how are you not grasping this.

>caps it to 3000 or 2000 or anything under 9999
Or exactly equal to 9999. Or any number above 9999.
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>>379464745
Tabata's combat even LOOKS unresponsive which is an impressive feat, holding down for combat was such a fucking awful idea since it just made the animations look so fucking awkward. When I press a button, I want him to do one attack, fucking simple you old fucking cunt who cannot design a combat system.
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>episodic
>extended universe tie-ins

It's DOA, I wouldn't even be surprised if the Gold Saucer minigames were paid DLC at this point.
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>>379488626
>n-no one is allowed to defend XV unless it's an FFXV thread!?
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>>379488126
>You literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about
Another ad hominem, what a surprise.

>b-but that's artificial
It's a video game, everything is artificial, there doesn't need to be a damage cap at all.

>still doesn't fucking know that Demi = Gravity and that Gravisphere = Graviga/ Gravity
Guess I'll spoil the surprise. Demi and classic Gravity deal damage based on current/max enemy HP, Gravisphere doesn't, therefore Demi=/=Gravisphere.

>I mean you seriously tried to argue
Except I didn't.

>And here is more of your denial over the fact that you have been uneqviovocally BTFO in every fucking thread
>BTFO
It's like you're trying to prove the point I made here >>379467052
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>>379489065

Along with Vincent, Yuffie, and they'll somehow to manage to make others like Cid and RXIII the same. Like how they just took the events of the characters in XV out as paid DLC.

>>379489083

Defend, attack, I couldn't care less. Don't derail non-XV threads with this cataclysmic autism from both sides.
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>>379489065
>extended universe tie-ins

wait this isn't confirmed is it

pls no
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>>379462034
Wow, a positive post in /v/.
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>>379462034

It's a shame TLR and RoF are so fucking overlooked. They're both great battle systems that strayed from the norm. Such a damn fucking shame.
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>>379489814
XIII's combat was ok, if only it didn't had A.I party members.
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>>379488885
>SBK91 still trying to pretend he hasn't been exposed and trying to damage control himself to being a "boogeyman"
Every time, you already exposed yourself and you are the only fucking one autistic enough to argue this same exact shit each time.

And where are these speedbuffs in ARPGs? Not in KH, not in Ys, not in Mana, not in Soulsborne, not in Witcher etc. If it's so important then why isn't it in KH?

>SBK91 still trying to damage control because he doesn't know the difference between an ARPG and just straight up action

>SBK91 on full damage control because he doesn't know that Armiger does increase your movement and attack speed, among other things.
And no, it destroys your point that XV somehow doesn't have a method to increase your speed, but in XVs case the thing that does increase speed increases your attack, your defense and mobility in addition to the speed of your attack and mobility because it's a super state.

You really must not have seen anything for XV if you honestly think regular attack combos with any of the RAs are the same speed as the Armiger attacks. But hey you're just a fucking idiot who literally doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>t-the high DPS attack doesn't count for some reason!?
My sides

>B-BUT THE WARPSTRIKE
HOLY SHIT THE FUCKING GRASPING, never mind doing the REGULAR attack on armiger is faster than any other regular attack in the game and that the warpstrike is completely different to regular attack, never mind that actually physically moving around when Armiger is active while doing regular attacks is faster than any other form of regular movement in combat.

>SBK91 still crying because he's getting shat on

>SBK91 has to cling to the "t-that's adhom so it doesn't count" non argument because he's getting his ass handed to him because he doesn't know the difference between ARPGs and just regular action games.

And yet it's still not in KH why?

>B-BUT IZJS
Has nothing to do with anything
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>>379489814
It's not that they are overlooked, they're not for plebs so most people don't like them and stick to their FF.
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>>379448745
Could was never a stong protagonist.

AC cloud is the real cloud.
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>>379488885
>SBK91 still has no fucking clue what a damage cap is or what the difference between max attack actually possible in total and damage cap is
Again since you are clearly underage and don't know what a damage cap is, a damage cap is something like if the max attack possible is 9999, then a damage cap would be something any number below that, if you remove a damage cap then that allows you to go to the absolute maximum damage possible, be it 9999 or 99999 or 999999 or whatever the actual max is set. Learn the fucking difference already.

Max attack =/= damage cap you fuck, jesus fucking christ. But you are too fucking autistic to understand this because you don't know what the fuck you are even talking about. Hey just like when you tried to argue that Dante could beat Goku.
>>379489096
>b-but adhom it doesn't count!?
Again that fucking grasping because you're getting BTFO. Stop being a chicken shit pussy.

>literally moving the goalpost of his own fucking statement because he can't even keep his own argument on one focused thing.

>SBK91 the retard doesn't know that gravisphere is graviga aka demi
>b-but that doesn't count!?

SBK91 Why do you think Dante could beat Goku?

And it's like you are still ignoring how you have been proven wrong in every response to your shitposts and you still can't fucking deal with that fact.
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>>379486728
>But it has sold more than FF13 did in the same stage in their life.
I know it has, I'm talking about 13's over all lifetime sales which xv hasn't passed yet.
>when even their financial report specifically cites XV as the major reason for their console sector profiting
When that's the one big game they had for the year that was made in-house, they pushed a lot of titles out of its way so they wouldn't interfere with its sales, and they've been promoting the shit out of it, it makes sense that it sold a lot. But probably not enough yet
I do like how you just nitpick one point but ignore everything else I said and then claim I don't know what I'm talking about while you act like you do. Kinda funny
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>>379488910
No it is clearly shown to be just as responsive while also looking more fluid because of the higher poly models and bones in the models making the animations look smoother.

And that footage is tapping attack not holding, you can stop with this meme, you never have to hold when you can tap and you have manual finishers from tapping too. When you press a button you do do one attack and you can do manual finishers only this way to. You literally have no clue what you are talking about and if you actually played it you would know that.

Stop being a contrarian just because you want to cocksuck Nomura, it just makes you look desperate when you have no actual valid argument even when visual proof is posted proving you wrong.
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>>379489190
What derail? The subject is about Nomura's combat in relation to Tabata's in XV, which nomuracuck fanboys keep shitposting against because they know fuck all about XV. Stop crying because people who know about XV are defending it against braindead nomura fags who keep trying to shitpost against it, even in 7R threads.
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>>379490010

Yeah, 13's combat was pretty tight, and challenging.

Unlike XV which is pretty braindead.

>>379490197

True that. People always whinged about TLR being too hard to understand. Same with RoF actually. I hope 7R's combat isn't 100% ARPG.
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>>379490498
What the fuck does "overall" sales matter when FF13 has been out for fucking 7 years and sold 7.5m and XV only out for like 6 months and sold over 6m? When comparing sales you compare their actual lifespans on equal terms otherwise there is no merit to the comparison. FF13 didn't sell 6m until a whole year after it was released while FFXV sold 6m a few months after it was released. That is why XV is the fastest selling FF, because it's the first FF to ever reach 6m in the timespan that it did, even factoring in a whole year gap to make up for the fact that other FFs weren't simultaneous ww releases.

>they advertised XV so it doesn't count that it sold well!?
Jesus christ this fucking denial.

You don't know what you're talking about because you are literally in denial about XVs sales, nor do you know how to actually compare sales.
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>>379490010
>>379490705
Only real problems I had with FF13 combat was not being about to switch party leader in battle and it takes three quarters of the game to fully unlock the battle system. Other than those, it's fun.

FF15 is a piece of garbage.
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>>379490916
>sold over 6m

shipped*
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>>379490916
>What the fuck does "overall" sales matter
I'm sorry that it offend you but that is what I said
>they advertised XV so it doesn't count
I see that you have become so upset that you are now blurring the lines between what I actually said and the delusional world that you live in
And again instead of actually coming up with an argument with any substance you just claim I don't know anything while saying that you do. I change my mind, it's pathetic more than it is funny
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>>379490998
>FF15 is a piece of garbage

Not according to the 1 or maybe 2 at most people ITT lol.
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>>379491019
See >>379487348
But I guess you can't fucking read.

>>379490705
>>379490998
13 is literally gutter trash while XV is the only FF with good combat.
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>>379491229

>"sales numbers" from the shills themselves

yeah nah it's shipped numbers
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How is Type-0?
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>>379491191
>I'm sorry that it offend you but that is what I said
And? What does "overall" matter towards anything when it's an irrelevant point that has no merit? Actual comparison of sales for them between teh same timeframe has XV at the highest amount of sales, and that goes for any FF ever.

I see you are literally trying to say that it doesn't count that XV sold well just because it had avertising. You were already proven wrong multiple times.
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>>379491229
>while XV is the only FF with good combat

Must be why nobody but you likes it. I've been in my fair share of XV threads and it's one of the biggest complaints.

>>379491295

It's a drag, and the combat is very basic.
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How is this fucking thread still alive
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>>379490998
15 is better than 13.
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>>379491209
Man you're desperate.

>>379491274
>Financial report specifically stating that it has 6 million SALES doesn't count!?
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>>379491374

High powered autism.
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>>379491374
FF15-kun has made 100 of the posts himself. He's a freak who should be euthanized.
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>>379491459

>corporations never try to big themselves up
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>>379491364
>Must be why nobody but you likes it.
You mean must be why everyone but SBK91 and the handful of braindead nomuracucks that samefag endlessly in these threads like it?

The biggest complaint about XV is that the story is rushed toward the end, combat complaints are far and few between only by retards such as yourself who think otherwise.
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Where do I belong if I think 13 and 15 are both trash?
I liked most of them before then.

As for OP
I think it will be bretty gud as long as we can control or play each party member, people who are update AC stuff is getting put in are actual retards. Cloud in AC is the real cloud.
Episodic is stupid but well see how it goes down. Square is know to change their marketing plans on a whim after all.

But fuck I hope to god that dont bring to much of CC bullshit in outside of a things that happened with zack.
>eats hair
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>>379491364
Man this is some next level denial.
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>>379491590

mental gymnastics of a truly mentally ill individual
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>>379491274
You can't be this dumb.
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>>379491374
Nomura fanboys are in denial.
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>>379491354
>What does "overall" matter towards anything when it's an irrelevant point that has no merit
Considering that's what I meant in the first place it does matter, you're the one who came screeching in that I'm wrong because I didn't say something to your liking
>Actual comparison of sales for them between teh same timeframe has XV at the highest amount of sales, and that goes for any FF ever.
That's not a fair comparison at all. XV was the first simultaneous worldwide release in the franchise on two platforms. And even then it's mostly coming from the states.
>I see you are literally trying to say that it doesn't count that XV sold well just because it had advertising
I never implied that but you seem to like putting words in peoples posts. And now you are claiming victory while acting like you know what you're talking about while I don't. I changed my mind again, this is sad
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>>379487348

Is there source of sales numbers from outside SE? Like statistics of games from other companies?
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>>379491584
>Help guys I have no idea what a financial report is please shit on me!?
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>>379491584
Dude seriously, you are liable to get sued if you lie on stockholder meeting reports. No one lies on those.
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>>379491703

Weren't you sucking Nomura's dick in the Versus days before knowledge of Tabata's involvement?
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>>379491675
Why do you keep making ironic posts like this?
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>>379488660
>>379488703
>>379488740
>>379488893
>>379488934
>all that IP resetting from xv-kun
It's okay when he does it
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>>379491828
>>379491840

>now resorting to mobile/PC posting

oh boy you're getting there
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>>379491875
>knowledge of Tabata's involvement?
He was doing it well after too
It wasn't until it was announced that versus shit was thrown out that his hateboner for nomura started
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>>379491998
>It wasn't until it was announced that versus shit was thrown out that his hateboner for nomura started

makes sense - I remember him praising nomura's every decision when people were laughing about it being vaporware
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>>379491756
No I'm saying you're wrong in what you're trying to argue because it has literally no fucking merit, an actual valid comparison is only by comparing them within the same timeframe.

You're dumbass shit is like trying to say "Wii has sold more total than the Switch", which is like, no fucking shit because the Wii has been out longer, why would a "total" comparison even be valid and why wouldn't you actually use the valid comparision of comparing them at the same stages in their lifespan to get an accurate display of how well something is doing?

>That's not a fair comparison at all.
Except it is and it's the only actual valid comparison when comparing something that came out recently to something from years ago.

>XV was the first simultaneous worldwide release in the franchise on two platforms.
And? XV had the highest opening sales for any FF in the US ever, which has nothing to do with the simultaneous worldwide release. It being the fastest selling also no longer has anything to do with that either because other FFs sales timespans to get to the number XV has is already beaten by XV regardless.

FF13 came out in Japan in Dec 2009 and the west like in March 2010, and it didn't sell 6m until 2011. It also was released on multiple platforms.

XV sold 6m within 3 months and it's now been 6 months since release and it's over 6m now. You are literally fucking grasping.

You still have no clue what you are trying to argue and any argument you have made is faulty. You were wrong, deal with it.
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>>379491703
There's no such thing as a Nomura fanboy in the context that he directs games.
I recall that the last one he directed was nearly a decade ago.
Nomura fanboys who love his character designs are alright by me; its just designs.
Criticize Toriyama or Tabata instead because they're actual directors who have released games for criticism.
There's no way to legitimately criticize Nomura for FFXV as his work was never released; FF Versus 13 is shelved, and we only got Tabata's game.

Nomura is a sort of boogeyman for FFXV kun now to further his schizophrenic tendencies. Keep digging that hole.
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>>379492286
>no I'm right: the post
Really sad, grow up m8
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>>379491940
>e-everyone who likes XV is one person!
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>>379491771
Why? You seriously think they're lying on a fucking financial report to their shareholders? Why are you in denial?

>>379491968
>samefag trying to accuse others of samefagging
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>>379492484

because to them shipped = sales
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>>379492269
>>379491998
>>379491875
Why are you responding to yourself?

Also what does changing your opinion about someone and something seem like a foreign concept to you? Are you just mad that someone who used to defend Nomura changed their viewpoint after taking a hard look at things and now calls his fanboys out?
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>>379492413
Yeah i'm sure they also all have your webms and the same way they reply to every post with just "no" and IT'S OBJECTIVELY BETTER, ALREADY THE BEST FF.
You can at least admit that you're samefagging since you seem to konw most about it judging by every thread that you're in
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If somebody went up to Nomura and said to him in Japanese "Kingdom Hearts is trash with trash designs" what would his response be?
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>>379492413
>>379492484
Are you twins?
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>>379492637
He'd probably wonder how they got into the square enix building. I don't think he ever goes home
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>>379492289
>There's no such thing as a Nomura fanboy
Holy shit he's actually serious.
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>>379492637
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>>379492289
Is this how low Nomura fanboys are stooping now?
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>>379492703
Probably phoneposting
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>>379492637
I highly doubt that he would care and 5 seconds later he'd be dragged back into Squares prison
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>>379492729
What exactly do you think he is doing at this very moment then?
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>>379492368
Look man it was pointed out multiple times you don't know how sales comparisons work and that you are in denial about XV being a success, you then seriously tried to back your own failing argument and you lost. Just take the L.
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>>379492802
>Probably

I assure you he's on his PC with a tablet and mobile with two different sims Triplefagging.
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>>379492530
>because to them shipped = sales
Except it specifically says sales, and when they wanted to say shipped they have said shipped. You are literally in fucking denial.
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>ctrl+f "holy shit"
>ctrl+f "christ"
>ctrl+f "cuck"
Yep, sure is a xv-kun thread.
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>>379492848
Probably sleeping in his office
>>
>>379492950

Nice backtracking.
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>>379492998
How did this happen? This was a FF7 thread
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>>379492618
>posting in a different currently active thread means you're samefagging
>accusing everyone in that thread who likes XV as being one person
Never mind only 1 XV webm is posted there in defense of the game in response to the usual XV shitposter who's been posting his own anti XV webms recently.
>>
>>379489315

Yes it is confirmed. The FF7 remake will come with some of the baggage from games like Crisis Core.

And considering Square currently has mostly shitty writers and Nomura's at the helm... This remake's gonna be a major fuck up.
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>>379493110
Every thread that even remotely mentions tabata or "xv" turns into an FFXV defense mode thread in his mind
>>
>>379492703
Are you dumb?

>>379492802
>>379492937
>phoneposter accusing others of phoneposting.
>>
>>379493110
Nomura fanboys started shitposting and then they got wrecked in the process.
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>>379493146
>Yes it is confirmed
>>379474286
Nope
>has mostly shitty writers
You mean the original writers of the game. The only one missing is gooch
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>>379493146

Sad part is it will still sell like fucking mental. First episode anyway.
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>>379492736
>>379492779
What's the argument Bazztek you nigger?
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>>379493296
>got wrecked
Man you sound like a kid that gets angry because others don't like your new toy.
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>>379493024
You don't know what you're even saying anymore.

>>379493204
Why do you keep complaining about people defending XV in threads it's mentioned it? You just seem triggered because you're not being let to shitpost in peace.

>but I'm not that guy i wasn't shitposting on xv
This is what you're probably gonna say too.
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>>379493408
>xv-kun is literally every "that kid" from "that kids" threads
>>
>>379493321

thank christ
>>
>>379493372
>autistic nigger trying to call someone else an autistic nigger
>>
why did Squeenix remake FF7, when FF9 was better in every way?

Just give FF9 better graphics and faster battle animations and it would be the perfect game.
>>
>>379493372
What is this supposed to show me? So Nomura fanboys don't exist because he didn't release a new game in a while? Is this seriously the dumb fucking logic you're now going to spout?

>>379493408
You sound like the kid that is mad that your shitposts were wrecked and you can't deal with it.
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>>379493428
Dude i don't care who hates or loves which game, it won't change my opinion or anything. I just don't get why people go out of their way too dislike or defend a single game for years and sometimes 24 hours non stop, that's just a waste of time.
I came back from work and this thread hasn't changed at all it's the same shit as always, when it's dead what then? What did you achive, the same people including you will just post the same shit again in a few hours.
If you guys would put this much effort into gambling or something you could be billionairs
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>>379493628
Nomura is not a legitimate boogeyman for which FF threads should be turned to samefagging.

Disprove it.

>>379493569
Loser.
>>
>>379493628
Thanks for repeating yourself i didn't hear you the first 200 times
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>>379493684
How about you prove Nomura fanboys don't exist when this thread is literally proof of it?
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>>379493585
>why did square remake their best selling singleplayer game in the franchise in which they know will sell like hotcakes due to the demand that has been strong for over a decade
>over their lowest selling 3d final fantasy game
You tell me anon
>>
What is literally wrong with the XV guy?

This is beyond mental illness.
>>
>>379493684
>autistic nigger seriously still being an autistic nigger
Guess kojima fanboys don't exist because his last game was in 2015.
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>>379493870
Where is the proof?
>>
>>379493870
So only the fanboys you don't like are shit but you being a huge fanboy is alright?
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>>379493939
Obsession and mental illness are the likely causes
>>
Not an argument?
>>
>>379493954
Kojima fanboys are real because 2015 was two years ago nigger.
Nomura hasn't released a new game for years. And KH does not create ruse cruise fags like caramel.
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>>379494058
Prove it :^)
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>>379494250
Stop defending shitposters
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>>379494354
Stop samefagging. I'll fucking rape you.
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>>379494526
Nice lack of a new IP, i mean stop resting your IP i know it's you
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>>379493743
And yet all you fucking do is make the most ironic fucking posts.

>>379493939
>>379493996
Proving Nomura fanboys wrong is a "mental illness" how? If anything is the mental illness it's you turds desperately trying to shit on XV and ignoring that Nomura fanboys exist.

>>379493958
See>>379448745
>He thinks Nomura will fail us
OP being a Nomura fanboy.

This >>379449774 faggot is a KH fanboy who has been reposting that image in countless threads while trying to shit on Tabata and defending Nomura.

This fag here >>379458347 "kh1 is generally regarded to be a great game overall.kh2 has a fantastic combat system."
This fag here >>379458532 ">he doesn't think KHIIFM has some of the finest combat of all ARPGs"
This fag here >>379487203 "Just posting to add that you do infact have shit taste and KHIIFM is one of the best action games of all time."
This fag here >>379458763 "lol name one good ARPG that even compares to KH2FM. i fucking dare you"

This fag here >>379461210

This fag here >>379462332

This fag here >>379459840 "KH combat is the most superior type of combat in any RPG that has any type of action combat in it and you can't say anything to disprove that fact."

etc
So don't even try and fucking pretend Nomura fanboys don't exist.

>>379494073
>Nomura fanboys don't exist because he hasn't released a game recently
Seriously what kind of dumb fuck logic is this, like games are made in a vaccum and he doesn't have fanboys gobbling up his shit he says in interviews and shows in trailers non fucking stop over the years? And KH2.8 was this year and KH and 7r trailers were a few years ago and versus fanboys came out of the woodworks after XV released and had been shitting on XV while cocksucking Nomura ever since he was taken off XV. How can you even manage to breathe with this level of autism?
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>>379494956
Prove it
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>>379494073
>fans only exist only once a game is released
>there's no such thing as fans that anticipate things before release
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>>379494956
calm down breh
>>
>>379494956
kill yourself faggot
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>>379495018
I just did.
>>
>>379495118
Prove it
>>
>>379495105
>>379495106
>fag asks for proof
>post proof from this very thread
>durr kill urself go away waaaaah
>>
>>379495207
prove it
>>
>>379495207
just fuck off and die we're all fucking sick and tired of your autism
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This game is going to be great.

RIP Trump
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>>379495207
woah calm down
>>
>>379495249
See >>379494956

>>379495294
>Asks for proof
>Gets proof
>g-go away let us shitpost against XV and cocksuck nomura in peace!
>>
>>379495373
Prove it
>>
>>379495431
See >>379494956
>>
>>379494956

This is some next level autism. If it were a super power you'd be Superman.
>>
>>379495479
Prove it
>>
>>379495373
fucking die scum
>>
>>379495023
I think you meant to quote yourself >>379493954

The reversal of his own argument is just more proof of how bad real niggers are.
>>
They turned it into an ARPG.
>>
>>379495657
That wasn't my quote, i'm just pointing out you're fuckin stupid and the actual nigger here if you think fans don't exist for games in prerelease.
>>
>>379495507
>autism
>linking to posts in this thread of Nomura fanboys cocksucking nomura's KH2FM after an anon asked for proof of nomura fanboys

And if nothing was done you'd just shitpost endlessly so what the fuck are you doing other than being autistic?

>>379495614
Fuck off yourself.
>>379495560
All you doing this proves to me is that you aren't interested in discussion, you just want to shitpost, and you're just regurgitating "prove it" because of the time I told SBK91 to prove his bullshit statements he kept pulling out of his ass with no proof. Difference being I have actually proved everything I said and linked to specific posts highlighting people cocksucking KH2FM, Nomura's game. But you're just going to post "prove it" and all you do in the process is prove me right.
>>
>>379495947
Not an argument
>>
>>379495905
If you want to play Final Fantasy VII: The ATB JRPG there's a game you can play for you to do so.
>>
>>379496107
Thanks for proving my point.
>>
>>379496175
Prove it
>>
>>379495947
go die in a ditch
>>
>>379496245
And again.
>>
Threads like these is why I'll never touch Final Fantasy XV.
>>
>>379496350
You're not missing anything.
>>
>>379496280
How about you do that?

>cries and getting wrecked
>cries when I'm doing what the other anon asked me to do because it wrecked him
>cries at anything

>>379496350
Yet you keep shitposting about it.
>>
>>379496290
>No arguments
btfo
>>
>>379496402
end your miserable existence
>>
>>379496423
>proves my point again
So you just BTFO yourself I guess.

>>379496396
If he hasn't played it he's missing a great game, unfortunately he's too busy shitposting against it.

>>379496509
My existence is great actually, you seem miserable though seeing as you can't like great games.
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>>379496595
>this is your average fag that shitposts against XV
>>
>>379496591
>no proof
Just take the L and go home
>>
>>379496595
Calm down, kid.
>>
>>379495938
Which falls under my argument that Nomura can't be blamed for whatever the fuck FFXV kun is accusing him of because he hasn't released FF7 remake yet! People are just anticipating the game. Way to go retard.

Is this some sort of disjointed autism where if you are anticipating FF7 you're suppose to watch this one FFXV sperglord shit on FF7 remake because of the director, whom he doesn't like?

I am not defending Nomura I am trying to remove him from the equation so that you can contain your autism FFXV kun. There isn't even enough information on FF7 remake to put the nail on Nomura's coffin, you nigger.

Secondly, before you comment on his past works, for fucks sake if some anons like Kingdom Hearts then they like Kingdom Hearts. Its is a totally different series to Final Fantasy and the only thing it has in common with FF7 Remake is that Nomura holds the director seat. In no way is some unrelated series indicative of the final quality of FF7 Remake.

>>379495342
That's funny because that guy isn't like FFXV ku at all. Just because he's black doesn't mean FFXV-kun will ever be worth as much respect as him.
>>
>>379496713
>Fags that shitpost against FFXV are really this autistic.
>>
>>379496402

I've seen more than enough to know just how lackluster it is. Pile that on to all the autism surrounding it, and that's enough reason to avoid it completely.

I've seen how you faggots kept raving about it getting 86 early on with endless threads claiming "/v/ BTFO lmao", then claiming scores didn't matter when it plumetted to 81 and that you were only pretending.

Dont need to eat shit to know it's shit.
>>
>>379494956
>Fags that defend FFXV are really this autistic.
>>
>>379496758
But he can be because things said against Nomura are completely valid.

Are you really this fucking far in denial that you think that Nomura fanboys don't exist because 7R isn't out yet? What the fuck kind of bullshit logic is this? Nomura fanboys are the most rabid fucking fanboys in the FF fanbase. You fucks constantly try and act like none of the development problems games have are Nomura's fault when the problems on Versus were his fault, the problems in KH3 are his fault, the problems on 7R are his fault, because he was in charge of them and they all fell into dev hell because of him.

You are defending Nomura by trying to fucking act like Nomura fanboys don't exist, that is the most asinine fucking argument you could ever cling to in trying to absolve Nomura of any blame. The fact that you are even trying to "remove nomura from the equation" just shows you think Nomura isn't to blame for any dev faults in his games that he was in charge of which means you are defending Nomura, you are a Nomura fanboy. There is enough information from Versus to know what the fuck Nomura fucked up on, and that he is repeating his fuckup on 7R too.

Second of all every fucking Versus fanboy in existence is a KH fanboy, because they liked Versus specifically because "it was like KH", 7R fanboys are also KH fanboys because they think 7R is going to be like KH because it's an ARPG with a command menu like KH has, and Nomura has even expressed that it's like a middleground between KH and Dissidia in terms of how much "action" 7R is going to have.

You have to be literally in fucking denial to think Nomura fanboys don't exist, either you are on some extreme damage control because you can't deal with getting called out every thread or you really are just that fucking stupid.
>>
>>379496860
>I've seen how you faggots kept raving about it getting 86 early on with endless threads claiming "/v/ BTFO lmao", then claiming scores didn't matter when it plumetted to 81 and that you were only pretending

I remember this. Fucking hilarious. I was actually happy for its score, but once those threads popped up I just rolled my eyes.
>>
>>379496860
>>379497475
Oh it's just you, the usual anti FFXV shitposter. Nothing to see here, you're just another complete retard that thinks because like 2 fucking threads mentioned metacritic for FFXV months ago that everyone somehow thinks metacritic matters, and you seriusly try to fucking cling to that bullshit argument when you try and defend metacritic in your shitposts against XV.
>>
>>379497380
>Nomura fanboys are the most rabid fucking fanboys in the FF fanbase

Coming from someone who endlessly sucked his dick in the Versus days this is hilariously accurate.
>>
>>379496926
Where is the autism? One anon asked for proof, I posted prove from this very thread, and then he was BTFO, and then you started samefagging shitpost responses because for some reason you're triggered that Nomura fanboys are getting called out. If anyone's autistic here it's you.
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>it's another FF7 thread gets derailed into FFXV shit posting episode
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>>379497641
>Where is the autism?
kek, look in the mirror if it's this hard to find where it's coming from
>>
>>379497723
sauce?
>>
>>379497785
I wish I knew, I saved this from another anon
>>
>>379497632
I know what Nomura fanboys are like from first hand experience, so I know the type of bullshit they try to pull.

>>379497780
I can't look in your mirror, only you can do that to see your autism.
>>
>>379497858

That's a really lame comeback, and you should feel bad.
>>
>>379497858
>no u
kek, autism at its finest
>>
>>379497838
Nevermind, i just googled werewolve middlefinger
Cursed (2005)
>>
>>379497943
>>379497965
>l-look in your mirror for autism
It was a lame statement to begin with, only so much you can do with the source material. Might as well just send it back.
>>
Its funny, when FFXV threads get made and XV-kun and his autistic counterpart aren't around, they usually die within a few posts. Every time. The only time they're active is half past autism. Their threads never hit triple digit posters.
>>
>>379498050
holy shit, nice find
>>
>>379498463
Except when XV threads are made they either usually max out or shitposters join in and trying to shit up the threads. Every time. The only time their inactive is when people know that the thread was created just for shitposting. Oh and so much for "tripple digits" Look at this 7R thread with less than 100 posters, most of the "IPs" are from the anti XV shitposters resetting their IPs too.
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>>379498716

They only max out because of shitposting. Don't even try denying it. This thread is a perfect example of how you yards ruin everything.
>>
>>379498716

This thread is 80% XV posting though, so you kinda shot yourself in the foot.
>>
>>379498920

Also most people stopped caring about this remake when they gave us the 3 year blue balls.
>>
>>379498837
>>379499035
No they're maxed out from regular discussion the majority of the time, and only occasionally because of shitposting, which you contribute to shitting up the threads. I can already tell you are teh same faggot that defends metacrtic and goes on about how "durr but it had 86 months ago and there was 2 threads where some people talked about metacritic for XV" as some sort of proof that metacritic somehow fucking matters.

>>379498920
No this thread is a 7R thread with FFXV shitposters trying to shit on XV while defending Nomura and anything he does.
>>
>>379499035
Within 3 years you dummy
>>
>>379497380
Alright. I will accept that you will stop at nothing to try and cause chaos in FF7 Remake threads because of your dislike for Nomura.
FYI I have not defended Nomura in any way. I have only tried to convince you not to shit on FF7 Remake because of the director and its not working. You are impossible to persuade not to attack Nomura in any way possible.

Just don't try to stop me and others from looking forward to the remake of the game so many have asked and waited for.
>>
>>379499076

tl;dr - go to bed
>>
How do we solve the XV-kun question?
>>
>>379499136
I'm not trying to cause chaos, I'm only calling out shitposters who try to shit on XV in their desperate attempts at trying to prop up Nomura or the 7Remake, or people trying to shit on XV because they think the 7Remake will be like XV, and general shitposters who always conjugate in these threads to shit on XV who also always invade FFXV threads trying to shit them up.

You have literlaly tried to act like Nomura fanboys don't exist, that in itself is a desperate attempt at trying to defend Nomura and damage controlling the notion that Nomura fanboys are the ones who are causing all the fucking grief in these threads.

I don't give a fuck if you are looking forward to the remake or not, stop trying to desperately shit on XV in your attempts to prop up the remake, you can say you are looking forward to it without having to shit and despertely shitpost against XV or make up bullshit about Versus somehow being better. These threads are always full of Nomura fanboys who defend 7R, Nomura, cling to Versus and KH2FM like their life depends on it. The fact that you think they don't exist just shows you are either new or you are on complete damage control and are desperately making shit up by trying to be a revisionist.
>>
>>379499395
You mean the Nomura fanboy question?
>>
>>379499475
Well you're talking to an anon who platinum'd FFXV and did all the end game dungeons.
I can only say to you that this isn't and wasn't the thread to bring FFXV in. Those threads are in the past.
Who cares about FFXV in a FF7 Re thread? Only you.
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