EOV, Radiant Historia and Deep Strange Journey all coming to the west

is strange journey a remake?

>>379436948
"Enhanced" remake, but yes. The UI for the bottom screen during battles looks like fucking shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-DlODszNpg

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>radiant historia perfect chronology
>only introducing shitty anime cutscenes and worse art

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W89kkXPY1uo

>Learn Japanese, those games will never come to the west!
I'm glad that I didn't listen to those idiots

>>379437308
It looks like it is running off of SMTIV's engine.

>>379437407
Get better taste, the art looks great.

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>>379437809
ok

>>379438007
I'm not secretly gay so left looks clearly better.

That short hair is pig disgusting,

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So /v/, when did you grow out of EO?

>>379438007
The right is unironically ugly no matter how you try and frame it.

>but that makes it more notable and memorable!

>>379438156
>>379438326
>unironically preferring kawaii uguu

>>379438558
>unironically using the meme arrows

>>379438251
When i bought IV despite the artstyle and found out the village smith was a 5 year old animu girl.

Tried to get past the artstyle by making a party of almost everyone male but those NPCs just ruined it for me.

Then i realized it's a 200+ hour game with way too much grinding.

It´s ok, not every game has to appeal me, i hope EO fans can enjoy EOV.

>>379438558
Over the right's hideousness masked as a stylistic choice? Yes.

>>379436673

I can't for the life of me figure out why anybody would think those games weren't coming out. I mean aside from the whole people are immensely fucking stupid factor the only other conclusion I can come to is this is just typical /v/ OPing and you have to shout and holler and call out people that might not even exist in order to get attention to your threads.

Best part is this is like practically day old news at this point and not even the first time it's been mentioned here, but again when does that sort of shit matter to the teenagers that populate most of /v/. Obviously your the first to notice you special little individual you.

>>379438007

No longer an exciting conversation. Discussed to death already. Buy or don't, just shut up about it already now maybe.

>>379438658
Well I'm glad the developers are pandering to you. Be excited for a day on the beach with Stocke and the gang. And wacky hijinx in a bath house!

>>379438858
You need to lurk more, every single thread of DSJ and RH was full of never ever fucks.

>But they are already translated an Atlus is porting almost everything.
>It's not coming dude get over it NEVER EVER.

>>379438653
>Then i realized it's a 200+ hour game with way too much grinding.

Generally if you're grinding in EO, your issue lies not with levels, but character builds or party composition. I guess that's its own issue, but I make that statement simply because I found EOIV to have little grinding.

>>379438858
Because the last proper EO they brought over sold maybe a tenth of what it should have and Atlus has always been pretty fast about announcing their localizations? Yet with EOV it's been nearly a year since JP launch instead of the usual 3 months or so and we hadn't heard a word from them.

>>379439049

Well then they're fucking stupid as shit as usual and clearly don't pay attention to trends but what else is new. This is the generation of just making shit up, shouting and screaming about everything, thinking everyone is out to personally spite them because they're just that important apparently, taking everything personally and having anything but a clue about what's actually going on around them.

>>379437527
It is the SMT IV engine

>>379438251
Never but DT is great too, 2-2 when?

>EOV took more than a fucking year
>and it's dub only

Pirating the day it comes out, if i still even care by then

>>379438007
>different artists have different styles

holy shit, really activates my almonds

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>>379438858
Because EOU2 sold like hot fucking garbage.

Is this normal for them to have trailers on the Nintendo channel?

I'm worried that Nintendo is going to bully Atlus into censoring EOV titties like they did with Tokyo Mirage.

>>379437308
Why are they using the full portraits and not the semi-portraits from IV/Final? Is this port made by some interns at Atlus?

>>379440706
>Is this port made by some interns at Atlus?

It seems like it, they are using these games as a way to train their new staff

>>379439049
More of the threads were full of people saying we wouldn't get the games until the Japanese had long since finished them, IE 2-3 years later. They're basically right. Fuck Atlus.

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>>379440706
This feels especially disgusting considering the game originally was just fine as far as portraits in combat. The full portrait thing just looks bizarre in comparison.

>>379436673
Any of those porn? Because if not then who gives a shit?

What the fuck is EO like?

Some shitty version of Disgaea?

>>379442171

Wizardry with deer.

>EOV
Fucking finally

>>379437809
Fuck no it doesn't, looks a lot more generic, has less personality, and terrible shading. It's a downgrade, I don't care how much pleb-weebs argue otherwise.

>>379438326
>>379438658
>preferring generic garbage because it pleases your dick

Cancer killing video games.

>>379442171
Dungeon crawler where the main gimmick is that you draw the map on the touch screen. Very fun and addicting.

>>379440385
Did etrian ever sold well in the west...? I remember something similar being said for 4 and Untold 1

>>379438251
Beat the original, was satisfied. Dropped every single sequel alfter I really tried liking them

>>379442802
>preferring poorly drawn garbage because it's older
*tips*

>>379437308
Those portaits make it looks like it's a card game. Looks awful

>>379437308
>enhanced port but UI is shit
After Devil Survivor I'm not surprised.
>>379438653
>Grinding
>In EOIV
EOIV is a joke. Get fucking good. You might be excused for grinding if this was EOI or EOII, but grinding in EOIV? Pathetic.

>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-04-20/atlus-marketer-registers-new-persona-domain-names/.115078
PERSONA Q 2!
PERSONA Q 2!
PERSONA Q 2!

Welp at least the better game out of the 3 will be released september instead of next fucking year

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>>379438007
of all the good things you could have cherrypicked from the original, you choose the worst

fix your fucking brain nigger

>>379443080
IV sold extremely well and Untold relatively okay.

>>379438007
Eruca on the left looks way better. Every other character looks worse though. Also it's not a fucking remake, /v/ is full of fucking retards.

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>>379443318
>Persona8.jp
>Persona9.jp
>Persona10.jp
the fuck

radiant historia overrated as phuck

>>379442401
>eov
english only... vow?

>>379436673
Jesus Christ. Just let the 3DS life already Nintendo.

http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/

Make your EOV party and post it.

>>379438007
>outfit is literally the same
>only real change is the hair

>>379443454
If you really want to show inferior art then pick Stocke or Rosch

>>379443873
Personally, I think it'd be nice if they used the short hair when you jump over to the other timeline. A little difference would be nice. Of course, I wanted playable Viola too, so what do I know?

>>379443873
She was meant to have long hair. The artist decided to draw her with short hair because he has a short hair fetish or is secretly gay, and the director said "sure, I guess"

>Takayashiki: Her hairstyle was originally longer, more princess-like. I thought that Mr. Konishi would expand on that version, but then the next time I saw her, she had short hair, so I thought to myself, "Well, I guess that works too." Haha. When she had the long hair, her face looked a little more childish than it does now. Contrarily, her clothes were more menacing and rustic. I actually liked that sketch of her, but I like the way she turned out in the end better.
So the updated design is actually the original
http://www.atlus.com/radianthistoria/interview2_c.html

>>379438653
>grinding
>in EO
>in IV, which is babbyshit
kill yourself

Is Teach in EOV?

>>379443735
Just get the undub

>>379444213

DLC portrait

>>379444213
As DLC

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>>379443080
Here's the top 100 Atlus sales (global) according to VGchartz.
>EO IV - 0.12 (NA), 0.21 (JP)
>EO - 0.19 (NA), 0.09 (JP)
>EO III - 0.12 (NA), 0.19 (JP)
I'm a bit curious where they get these sales numbers. If they're accurate it really doesn't paint a good picture for EO in general. Makes sense that EO V would be the last in the series.

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>>379438007
all you had to do was post stocke
you're literally fucking yourself posting that

>>379442171
>Some shitty version of Disgaea?

Third person dungeon crawler (just like Wizardry) with lolis and deers and a lot of customization.

>>379444553
New Stocke looks worse, and new Eruca looks worse. He looked more kind in the original, and she looks better with short hair.

>>379443454
What is even wrong with this one?

>>379444875
Muh face

>>379444543
Seems like good sale numbers for a rehashed series with little fund invested. Disgaea is lucky to sell over 200k units as well.

finally

To anyone interested in RH it's not worth full price
The story is interesting but the actual gameplay isn't that great, wait for the inevitable Atlus price drop or pirate it

>>379444703
You wot? he looks shady as fuck in the original, like a gruesome rapist that hides himself well. The remake makes him look like a tipical mc two good shoes

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>>379444543
>>379443080
And here's the top 100 sorted by NA for anyone curious who doesn't want to visit the page.
>>379444980
No telling how much they had invested in it. They'd certainly have less if Atlus NA didn't insist on putting shitty dubs in.

>>379445204
Agree to disagree - in the original he looked like a kind, simple man. In the remaster he looks like a smug, arrogant prick.

>>379442171
>>379442171

Casual wizardry with cute anime art for characters; Dungeon Crawler RPG where you make your own maps.

>>379440607
Tokyo Mirage was commissioned and published by Nintendo, though. Etrian Odyssey isn't.

>>379445986
>Latest Wizardry game is 2001
Shame, I'm remotely interested in playing, but games that dated (if they run at all) usually feel way too dated.

>>379440607
Tokyo Mirage had more Nintendo involvement because it was a crossover with one of their franchise. Every other Atlus game on Nintendo consoles have been completely untouched, so don't worry.

Why does Atlus hate EO so much? It gets announced for localization more than a year after the Japanese release, yet SJ and that game no one gives a shit about are already confirmed this early. Plus all we get for the 10th anniversary is another shitty MD spinoff no one was asking for, that if it's even being localized this year

>>379438007
left is better but it's too different

>>379446342
7 and 8 are beginner friendly and wizardry has a bunch of modernish remakes of various games. Look up PSN's wizardry games. There's 2 or 3 you can try there, and they're decent jump in points.

>>379446593
EO5 is a entirely new game with hefty work of translation, while the rest is all translated already

>>379446593
>no one was asking for

fuck you I want it.

>>379446593
>NA
>EO1 starts the list at #21
>Radiant Historia #23
>Strange Journey #43
>EO3 #44, IV #46, EOU1 #56, EO2 #61 EOU2 #67
More popular games, and as >>379446859 said the bulk of the translations are already done for them. If charts are to be believed EO has just never been that popular in the west, outside of the very first one.

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>>379436673
And now we (continue to) play the waiting game.

>>379446593
>make 5 games, 2 remakes and 3 spin offs for one series
>make a flagship title game using said game's engine
>localize every single one except the just recently announced 3rd spinoff western

They care more about this series than probably any other company localizing would.

>>379447570
>3 spin offs for one series
Isn't Mystery Dungeon the only spinoff? Persona Q is a dungeon crawler, but a Persona crossover/spinoff. What are the other two EO spinoffs?

Can I make a team of shotas in EOV?

>>379437308
>animated sprites instead of still portraits
Everyone who's shitting on this can fuck off, it looks great.

>>379448417
yes

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>>379446907
this chocolate factory is making my pants tight

but, real talk, as someone unfamiliar with the series, what is a good rule of thumb for making up your party?

> All 3 games are $39.99

Well this is a surprise, no more ATLUS tax?

>>379448731
Same as any other RPG
At least one damage dealer, tank, and healer.
Advanced players can do crazy shit like solo bosses with what seems like shit tier classes

>>379447736
EMD2, do you live under a rock?

>>379449018
>>379447736
Also, Q is a crossover with EO. Hence the Q, being part of EO's Japanese name.

Who the fuck was blown out by this? Were there people actually expecting this not to happen?
Who are these idiots?

>>379449429
Everybody thought EOV was dead for sure, literally nobody thought it would ever be localized.

>>379436673
Ok

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>>379449429

It's tradition.

>>379449429
people thought eo5 was not getting localized because it took 10 months to announce a localization instead of the 2 or 3 it's taken for the previous 7 games or so

>>379449018
>EMD2
The first game was garbage, and I don't really pay much attention to news. So yes, if you consider that living under a rock, I suppose I am.

>>379450143
Persona 5 is a big game. Probably needed all their translation crew working on it.

>>379450295
>All of their translation crew working on it
>Not all dialogue translated anyways
>Atlas JP so xenophobic they can't get translation crews in during the actual development cycles to allow localizations to complete closer to the original ship date
Garbage company.

>>379448731
I usually just pick 1 class that I want, then look through some of the other classes for skills that make that class stronger.

For example, if you find a skill that you want to use that's really inaccurate, you can put someone who can bind Legs in your party to prevent enemies from dodging.

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>>379450495
thanks dude

looking forward to playing. All I know for now is that I gotta have granny hawk and grandpa tank(?)

>>379451150
The thing about games like EO is it's a lot about experimenting and finding out the ins-and-outs. They draw from old-school RPGs pretty hard, so a bad party setup or a disadvantage against a specific enemy can result in a pretty quick demise.

So good luck working some shit together.

>>379449429
>longest wait for a game was EOU2 at 9 months, when every other title only to 4 to 6 months (EOU1 took 3)
>10 months later and still fucking nothing
>Atlus JP has a 10th anniversary stream for the fans
>Atlus US doesn't even acknowledge shit, and it would have been a good time to for an announcement
>instead they just probably withheld it for an extra 2 months because of muh e3

Yeah I wonder why.

Why not port to the switch? DS to 3DS is not a big enough jump to be worth it plus 3DS Plays DS games native. What's the fucking point?

>>379442345
The fuck is Wizardry?

>>379439421
>2-2 when?

Never because the backlash Atlus got from censoring the game.

>>379438653
>Grinding in EO
>Grinding in the EASIEST EO
>Grinding the the EO GAME THAT INTRODUCED EASY MODE FOR EVEN LESS REQUIRED LEVELS

Are you okay, anon?

>>379452458
To reuse the 3DS (Etrian Odyssey from IV, EOU, EO2U, SMTIV, SMTIV:A) or DS (Radiant Historia) assets and not have to convert the second screen (EO map to a menu, SMT/Radiant Historia battle UI to somewhere on the top screen).
Likewise for Ultra Sun & Moon; it's only been 3 months since the Switch's launch (i.e. not a lot of development time) and it replaced the Wii U, not 3DS.

>>379436673
Wait, people actually thought we were not going to get these games? lol

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>>379444213
Pay up goy.

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>you will never have a thread about Radiant Historia remake without 50+ replies of people arguing over art style preference.

>>379453359
>remake
It's not a remake.

>>379453359

it's because these entry level westernime shedcuckers are all like MODERN ANIME REEEEEEEE and just want their ugly models smoother but simplier facial structures.

>>379453359

>remake

it's an upscaled port anon

>>379452458
Proper EO is never coming to the Switch, there was a much higher chance for a console release back when the WiiU was a thing.
It needs that second screen, without it it wouldn't be EO and Atlus knows that perfectly well.

>>379453359
Everyone looks better in the remake, especially the blonde girl with flowing long hair instead of SJW short cut.

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>>379448932
Good. Using dubs as excuses to charge a premium shouldn't fly when you're the only localization company doing so.

>>379453751
Especially with such absolute shit dubs, fuck

>>379453635
I just know someone is going to reply and tell you that the mapmaking in EO isn't important even though it's practically the main feature of the game.

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>>379436673
I won't believe it until it's in my hand.

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>remake
>11 results
This fucking board.

>>379453359
Which art style do you prefer?

>>379455131
SJ is literally a remake, don't know about radiant historia.

>>379455360
>don't know about radiant historia
Enhanced port with new content, same with Record Breaker. Would've been nice if they at least added another frame in the run animations.

>>379438653
>When i bought IV despite the artstyle and found out the village smith was a 5 year old animu girl.
She's an apprentice, that's why she sells you stuff instead of being inside actually forging weapons and armor.

>>379447558
we better be getting that perfect edition for Radiant Historia.

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>>379438653

>>379456803

Cass best girl.

>>379441951
also the new co op attack sounds are lame

>>379436673
>vgchartz
$0.03 has been deposited in your account

>>379444543
>according to VGchartz
so you don't have a real source?

>>379455360
You literally don't know what a remake is. It's a enhanced port.

>>379447558
>strange journey redux
fucking hell, atlus USA couldn't leave a name alone to save their fucking lives

>>379450431
there's reason to believe AUSA has been localizing the persona games during development since at least P3, atlus just made them delay P5 because people were starting to notice how shite their localizations are.

>>379455496
>Record Breaker
go to bed john

>>379436673
oh my god eo5 is finally coming here
im going to buy (another) 3ds just for this game

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I can't believe EOV localization is real

>>379453721
Everyone looks worse in the remake. Short hair is infinitely better on women than long hair, and it's disgusting that you even associate it with being a SJW.

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>>379436673
why do you keep spamming this vgchartz link everytime you make this thread

do you think anyone is actually gonna click it?

how much are they paying you? If they pay well would you mind getting me an interview?

>>379458980

mediko is so cute

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>>379457885
Find a better one. That's not an insult, I'm just saying to find a better source. I don't entirely trust VGChartz either, but it's the best I know of.
>>379456291
They also need to include the chibi art DLC.

>>379437308
christ, why? should've just copied SMT IV's UI, it was sex as fuck

So /v/, I'm gonna start up EOIV and hopefully beat it before V comes around, but I can't decide on a party comp

So first five replies decide my party, surprise me

>>379459591
healer/medic/whatever you call it

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>>379459591
Rune master!

>>379459591
Dancer

>>379459591
That's a terrible idea and will leave you with something that has no synergy whatsoever.
Just read over their descriptions and roll with a set up that looks like it'd be good, it's not like you will never be able to change your party later on.

>>379459591

Bushi main :^)

>>379453359
Yes goy be content with the nu-anime artstyle! The birth rate isn't going to destroy itself!

>>379459591
Redhead tank.

>>379459846
His comp is Medic/Runemaster/Dancer/Bushi/Fortress. Not too bad all things considered.

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>>379459846
>implying all the sexual propaganda in anime isn't to encourage people to have sex actually increase birthrates

Meant >>379459903 for >>379459768.

>>379438653
>grinding for 200+ hours

If it takes you more than 100, you're literally retarded, less than 80 if you actually spent time respeccing your team and planning subclasses. You're literally retarded.

>>379459903
I'll need to roll with some filler until I get Bushi, but it sounds pretty good. Thanks, guys

>>379459903
Could be a lot worse for sure.

>>379448731
Generally 1 tank and 1 fighter in front, then a mage and healer in the back. The fifth slot (you can do 3 front or 3 back) I always put in the back and make them a debuffer. Once subclassing is unlocked, you can turn basically anyone into a debuffer/buffer so I tend to make my healer buff the mage and my fighter is a shitty debuff person.

The tank just gets stuff to make them tank really well since their basic stuff can burn their TP too fast for extended battles. The debuffer turns into a shitty healer on the off chance that all of their debuffs land.

It varies slightly by game, but that's my usual route.

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>>379438251

>mfw I'm more hyped for pic related than everything on the OP
Release date fucking when

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>>379459591
>>379459739
In fact, get 2 rune masters
Together they are OP as hell

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>>379460385
>Compile Heart

>>379460385
>compile heart
I mean I love the way they treat customers and the art is supremely cute but bleh on the games. I wish whatever remained of compile would make a decent madou clone.

>>379460385
>buying vita games
>compile heart games
never heard of this but 50 bucks says it's a generic ARPG that plays exactly like neptunia rebirth 1

>>379437407
I'm fine with it even with the art change.
Radiant Historia was rare as fuck and I'd love to be able to play it on a 2 screen system again instead of an emulator.

>>379460646
>generic ARPG that plays exactly like neptunia rebirth 1
It's a dungeon crawler that got a lot of praise over in nippon, pretty much Compiles answer to Coven

>>379460646
I'll take those 50 bucks anon.

I need them to save up for coven when it finally gets a localization announced

>>379460571
>Sega has Atlus
>Sega has Puyo

Madou Q when?

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>>379460805
>tfw Nintendo will inevitably buy Atlus

>>379460805
After Puyosona

>>379436673
3DS? NoA? smells like censoring, just like Bravely Second and Shin-Megami X Fire Emblem... I wouldn't be surprised if it got censoring and cause a whole ruckus like NoA did before.

>>379459591
4 Flat Lolis

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>>379461152
>Atlus games
>NoA localization

>>379461152
>Complains about NoA censorship
>Posts 3rd party games
What did he mean by this?

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>>379461152

>>379460385
>IF/CH
It's shit.

>>379461260
To be fair, Persona x Awakening was localized by NOA

>>379460385
I thought this came out in august or did I just make that up?

>>379461258
>>379461260
>>379461370
Huh.. nevermind, I should stop letting my extra chromosome kicking in

>>379438251
I liked DT2 but not as much as the later EO games. Felt like there was a way too obvious choice for classes at times and a few of them came down to spam this attack, like Valkyrie with their Daedalus Attack. Plus it feels like not enough turn based games have long, arduous battles that still manage to be enjoyable. They either die too fast or end up being a slog.

>>379461260
But both of those games got censored by NoA. Bravely Second turned pocahontas into billy the kid if I recall. #FE removed swimsuits I think, altered wedding dresses, and made busts smaller.

>>379461712
Well you were partly right since SMTxFE was localized by NoA in spite of being an Atlus game, likely because NoA didn't want a game released under one of their brands with icky gross problematic content like females wearing swimsuits.

>>379461809
DT2 is pretty different from EO as a dungeon crawler. It's completely hazard based while EO is more about its puzzles/FOEs. Personally I prefer EO's style to endlessly twisting corridors and traps everywhere, but I wouldn't really compare them, they are just fundamentally super different.

Combat wise I honestly feel the exact opposite of you though, DT2 got much more interesting than at least all the EO games I played (which is all but Untold 2, the original EO, and like that Mystery Dungeon game I suppose). The god fights in DT2 completely shit on anything EO postgame has to offer and needing to use pretty much all classes at one point or another leads to a lot of fluidity in your group. You can almost never bring the exact 5 classes you want and what is actually ideal varies greatly depending on the fight.

>>379460364
Thanks for this, sorry watching Fargo atm forgot I had this thread up! But yeah, saved the info on a notepad

>>379437505
enjoy your donuts peasant

>>379462441
So it takes a really asslong time to get to that point? Alright, I'm starting to understand, because I got to that hell dungeon where you paid money to go through doors and I was still mostly just spamming Daedalus Attack and whatever strongest move I had. Fights tended to end way too quickly. Although admittedly, EO 1 and definitely 2 had the problem of lack of good attack variety. I wasn't as big a fan of U1 as well.

It's just that EO has a way more interesting difficulty curve and skill options. I enjoy how you need to manage buffs because they not only last for a limited time, you can only have three up at a time. I like how all sorts of skills require your teammates to function at their best like links or chasers, I like how ailments and binds are extremely beneficial and you can make many different builds work. I'd say U2 is my favorite since even if it still has its problems. Boss fights are terrifying, you're actually encouraged to use attacks that hit the entire enemy party in boss fights. Regular enemies can wipe you and all have a potentially nasty surprise. The Force mechanic is well implemented as an anime powerup, it's extremely powerful yet feels entirely necessary to fight the kinds of foes you encounter since they can take a lot of punishment. Funny enough, I have the exact different problem in that I wish the dungeons were more punishing, I like the puzzles but I wish there were a few more unforgiving elements and traps to add to the excitement, like the anti-magic rooms.

I'd like to get to the entire end of DT2, I enjoyed the game, but none of the fights felt extremely tense until the Demon God and I still managed to cheese that one.

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>>379460385
>distributed by sega of america

>>379461892
IIRC it was localized by atlus USA with censorship mandated by treehouse

>>379464485
Oh that's right, I remember everyone getting up in arms about that. I'm pretty sure Treehouse were the ones who went out of their way to make all the changes though, including even fucking re-recording the Japanese voice lines

is there anything really wrong with idea factory/compile heart?
I feel like they need to take a break for a bit and work on quality but I dont think theyve really mad a truly bad game in recent memory

their games do lack substance in a lot of places though for sure

what do yall think? what are some good games of theirs and what are some bad? what does a similar company (gust) do better/worse?

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>>379452567

>>379465797
>I dont think theyve really mad a truly bad game in recent memory
Aside from all of the games they've made in recent memory, you're right

>>379465797
Cross Edge turned me off to the company. Screwed up characters from games I liked

>>379466387
funnily enough cross edge was my first game from them and it made me interested
it was such a weird game

>2018
ouch, way to kill any potential sales.

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Now that EOV is getting localized, where is the Labyrinth of Refrain?

>>379436673
pretty sure i played a localized radiant historia

On one hand, SJ and radiant historia are the best DS rpgs. On the other hand, they're just light remakes.

Not sure If im really happy or not.

>>379468163
Must have been in a different timeline.

>>379467932
NIS just announced a PS4 port coming out this September. Makes sense they didn't bring the Vita version over if they had that planned, we'll probably get it on PS4/Vita/Steam sometime next year.

>Etrian Odyssey V

I never really liked the 4th one, so I don't think I'm going to rush to get the 5th.

>Radiant Historia

This game's already on the DS, and unless they're remaking it in 3D there really isn't too much more they can do with this one visually.

I hope they add more story content and explain things a bit better as the original had a ton of plot holes.

>Deep Strange Journey

I don't know, I did enjoy it, but I'm not so infinitely thirsty for more than I'm dying for a remake.

What's the deal with SJ Redux? I'd never heard of it before, is it a full remaster? Is it good? And when did it originally come out?

>>379440706
Hopefully you can toggle between them, like you could in the status menu in 4 by pressing start if you really wanted too. They might be just showing the animated sprites instead of still portraits to make it look more lively to a larger audience.

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>>379438007
This is a better comparison, because it prevents people who prefer long hair from being blinded by their dicks

>>379445685
Exactly. He emanated this look of reason, and being just an average soldier/officer with someone who was thrust into a situation having extraordinary powers, not a righteous hero.

>Can't even see yourself or your demons while you're fighting in deep Strange Journey.
Dropped.

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>>379469502
On that note
>original
>soft and subdued colors that match the tone of the story
>makes use of empty space
>title is minimalist and looks like a part of the whole
>excellent use of lighting and shadow that clearly signifies the two timelines
>Stocke in an action pose, moving forward with a determined expression

>new
>over saturated colors that clash with the story's tone
>visually cluttered, throwing everything it possibly can in
>title has needless effects and is more compacted, removing it from the whole
>The very slight back-lighting from Historia on Stocke is the only real lighting effect
>stocke in a static defensive pose, looking like he's about to cry

>>379469502
>take obviously evil and creepy old man
>make him look nice

>>379470396
Y is Stock sad?

>>379469502
He doesn't look too bad, I see that they made him buff and gave him hair to make him more appealing but its nowhere near as drastic as the other in pic which they completely change the character into generic fantasy moe primcess girl no. 1236484.

>>379470586
He knows it's going to be shit.

>>379470586
Because the whyole game is him getting fucked over except for that ending where he spends years fucking Raynie.

>>379469502
Why make him look more handsome/distinguished? Why the extra shit on the shoes, or the shirt cuffs? This is more tolerable compared to Stocke/Eruca, but still weird.

>>379470646
What they did to Eruca pissed me the fuck off. Holy shit, they just dumped her old style in the garbage.
>>379471012
Get the remaster. The biggest change appears to be the new portrait art + a new chapter with a new party member.

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>>379436673
Will EOV rate higher than RH: PC?

>>379470892
To be fair, that IS the canon ending.

>>379471269
>EO2 higher than EO3

I'll never understand why people think metacritic is worth paying attention to.

>>379471269
>caring about metascore

>>379471424
I meant the bad end one where they just give up and go live somewhere else until the world rots.

>>379471137
It doesn't make any sense. The man on the left looks a like an elderly general in his heyday, bravely looking toward the future. While on the left is a wretched old spy master futilely struggling against a cruel fate

>just want a difficulty where Ariadne Threads don't get used up while the battle difficulty isn't changed so I don't feel like so much of my time is spent grinding for cash
>Casual mode just turns the game into a cakewalk, not even the level of difficulty of a final fantasy game

sigh

>>379472219
Nigger, what? Arianna threads are only like 100en per piece.

>>379472292
Mouthbreathers don't remember to buy them when going back to town, and then blame their party death/loss of time tracking back to town on the game for "being shitty".

>>379472292
and early game is when youre forced to do most of your money grinding for the most basic shit. monster parts sell for like 2 or 5 en each, and inn stays increase with your level. makes me run out of money extremely fast at least

>>379472402
That's why you level up harvesting skills.

>>379472402
>>379472634
I never level up harvesting skills and usually have enough money to buy all my party high-end equipment. What am I doing wrong?

>>379472915
They are useful for early game and for some quests, rare stuff sells well.

>>379472359
Just always buy 2 threads and 1 of the item that takes you back to the labyrinth's entrance when you restock. Use the threads to leave, and if you ever forget to rebuy new ones and are stranded in the middle of a labyrinth you still have the item to return you to the entrance left. Just make absolutely sure you rebuy consumables first thing whenever you have to fall back on your labyrinth entrance return item. Fuck if I can remember what that thing was called in EO.

>>379473029
I really don't want gimping my combat abilities for some monetary gain, in the game with limited skill points. You can always just grind for money if you're short of some expensive weapon. But I'd really rather not respec and lose levels.

>>379473224
A lot of people just make a second party with dedicated gathering skill users. If you're trying to get through the game with a single party only you're in for a bit more of a challenge, and possibly even more grinding.

>>379473224
>gimping my combat abilities for some monetary gain
Which is why you have characters dedicated to those. In III you just make farmers and give them harvesting skills and the increased experience skill, which works really well.

>>379473312
I hate grinding, but I also hate managing more than a single party. Plus, even the gathering party would still have to fight through random encounters, so it would also need proper equipment and combat skills. I feel like it wouldn't actually speed up the game, even if it gathered more resources, because it'd also take so much more time and money to manage two parties at once.

>>379473479
>so it would also need proper equipment and combat skills.
Nah, just your main party with collectors in the backrow, tons of money and new objects for five minutes cost.

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>>379444543
>persona q sold more than persona 3

>>379472402
>monster parts sell for like 2 or 5 en each, and inn stays increase with your level.
You can always use the fucked up way of gathering a little bit of cash early game.
Recruit someone, strip them of all their gear, then dismiss them. There's no actual consequence for doing it unless you're into RP, in which case you're totally fucking over some poor new adventurer that was just trying to start out.

>>379444875
elegant serious face was turned into a potato face.
it's a tragedy.

>>379474163
P3 is the second weakest game in the series. You'd have to be a delusional P3 bab to think it was anything special.

>>379474368
You aren't getting the point here
>people buy sequels to games they didn't play

>tfw all these news
>tfw happy
>tfw remembering being europe

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>people praise Castlevania from moving from shitty animu art to the masterpiece that is order of ecclesia
>he does art for radiant historia
>wtf i hate this now

>>379474537
Well they are 3DS, so you could just pirate NA while you wait.

>>379474580
The Castlevania games before Ecclesia had amazing art though.

>>379474617
I never got into pirating and that stuff on the 3DS, but its really tempting now so i don't have to wait a whole year probably before EU release

>>379474427
You can easily experience the persona games in any order with no problems. What's your point?

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>>379474427
Shit happens all the time.

>>379444553
new stocke looks better.

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To anybody versed in this stuff, should I wait to play the new releases of Strange Journey and Radiant Historia or should I just play the DS versions?

I dunno what new features they have

>>379474995
DSJ will probably have some needed gameplay changes and more levels, so it's worth the wait.
RH seems to have a new character and all, but the game feels complete as it is.

>>379474742
You must be joking because Dawn of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin are both irredeemable garbage.

>>379452946
>>379444179
>>379443229
>>379439053
Don't know why people say EOIV has no grinding.

I reached the red bear boss at level 9 and it seems imposible unless I grind for a level or two, which is why I dropped the game right there.

>>379475262
Because going normally, doing quests and stuff, you should be around level 12.

>>379459903

Bushi is trash as a main class though.

>>379475207
I thought Portrait of Ruin was after Ecclesia, my bad. SOTN and the GBA and PS2 Castlevanias had great art though.

Will RH remake have a sister ending?

>>379475304
I did all the quest and maped the entire map before that fight though.

>>379437432

its been since this game came out since i played it but the best character, the big ass armor dude who was your army buddy, has about 4 seconds of screen time in this shit while he is like the 6th most important character in the plot what the fuck

>>379475509
>6th most important character
He's around 4th, half the game is avoiding he gets killed.

>>379436673
>dub only
OP lost.

>>379475262
>>379475424

What is your party then and who is in what row?

If you have a nightseeker then you got memed because they're pretty ass until lategame when you can actually apply status effects somewhat reliably.

>>379475657
Not sure about EO, but SJ confirmed to have Jap audio. There's still hope for dual audio after P5.

>>379475692
Landsknecht, Fortress, Nightseeker
Medic, Runemaster

Dub Zelenin sounds like best girl, shame her end is everyone having to worship her.

>>379438007
Left: cheap bland jelly candy
Right: mature and complex, dark chocolate and coffee with subtle features and depth

>>379475141
>needed gameplay changes
I don't like you.

>>379438251
>people unironically think DT killed EO

>>379475808

Yeah you definitely got memed, nightseekers need to benefit from their proficiency but only the nightseeker can inflict status effects and they are fucking awful at doing that without a bunch of lategame skills to back them up.

You should definitely replace the nightseeker with a sniper.

>>379474995
Just play the originals.

>>379475657
>Listening to jap babble
wew

>>379476068
You REALLY wouldn't like doomguy being actually useful even in endgame, for example?
Because he falls flat against mem-aleph and actually turns into a vending machine.

>>379476543
>being an obese american cuck
2 towers were not enough.

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>>379476652
Every country in the world belongs to America, you should all be speaking American.

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Raynie best girl

>>379477005
Nope. It's already annoying enough that those fuck at Atlus refuses to translate the games into my language, but forcing their shitty english dub on me too? Fuck them.

>>379477247
How many kids did she pop out? 40?

>>379475327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y0zHf-nCmc
Seems fine to me.

>>379477316
How many times do you think Stocke fucked her by using the White Chronicle during the At Journey's End bad end?
Hopefully a lot

>>379477681
>Raynie is having a headache
>AGAIN
>at journey's end here we go!
That's what I believe that canonically happened.

>>379436673
Fucking awesome.
I never got banned during the recent wave and now I've got even more games to play over the next year or two. Sniping a cheap as dirt 3ds off ebay and hacking it was the best decision I ever made.

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>Aht will finally get decent r34

Literally been waiting a decade. Now we just need Naughtyfins and my life's complete.

>>379455496
>new content
Is there actually anything new besides the portraits and I guess the anime scenes?

>>379475141
>>379478416
>RH seems to have a new character and all
Well there's that, it seems

>>379478416
New timeline or something that involves the new character, voice acting, some new music from Shimomura, slightly better graphics?. That's all I can remember

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Glad that in the perfect ending Stocke saves him and the rest of the Rosch Brigade

>>379479594
Stocke is such a great guy.

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>Reading comments in the trailers in Youtube.
>So many Switchfags whining how they are not getting them.
Pure Handheld line of Nintendo is far from dead, give up already.

>>379457915
>entirely new assets
>completely different game engine
nah it's a remake, you're fucking retarded

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>>379438653
>party out of males
>in EO
You have a serious case of faggotry

>>379479594

>Stocke gets to have a great girl to spend his life with
>Dedicated to his job
>Has great friends
>Not a whiny little bitch.

Why is Stocke the best JRPG protag?

>>379437407
>>379438007
The remake still lets you use the old portraits you fag

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He was right, you know.

>>379480529
Wasn't that just a pre-order bonus and it's paid DLC otherwise?

>>379438251

I really wanted to like DT2, but shit, it takes way too long to get interesting (I don't know how long actually, I played it for around 10+ hours and it still was shit boring) and the fact that everything besides crawling is pretty much shit in that game. It probably would shitload better if all characters, art, story and setting didn't exist. Too panderiffic. I guess the series has its roots in eroges?

>>379442802
>stop liking things that are good for your dick because it makes me angry!!!!

>>379482998
Don't even try to argue with them, boy haircuts look like shit on women and they know it, but they're far too homosexual and deluded to ever admit it.

>>379475207
It was fine. It was so that they could have actual animation in the games. And they had just that. It was alright. OoE doesn't have any animation whatsoever aside from the most minimal of tweening.

>>379438007
>Ugly dyke cut gone

Good riddance.

>>379469502
Heiss got fabulous, holy shit. The new design looks really nice but it doesn't fit him, he doesn't look sneaky or scheming anymore. he even looks sort of heroic.

>>379471269
>EO3 lower than EO I, II, IV, le melenom grill, le fefnor nigth and on par with EMD

Jeez.

>>379477247
I wish the new game will flesh up her relationship with stocke a bit more.

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>>379484749

>>379481046
I thought the retro portrait DLC was free.

>>379443780
I can't, the Teach and Mediko portraits aren't there.

>>379469502
>DS Heiss
>Shady, suspicious, will probably send you to your death eventually
>3DS Heiss
>Fucking badass patriot that wants to protect his country and bro it up with Stocke

Yea, and none of them are coming to the Switch.
NINTENDO BTFO.

>>379485081
>Shady, suspicious, will probably send you to your death eventually
The man that literally tells you to think of your subordinates as tools.

>>379484991
Maybe there was some confusion with it being DLC, but not costing anything itself. I know some voice packs do that. I haven't been able to find anything either way, however. Just it being listed as DLC on the wiki.

>>379443646
count the total number of persona game, you'll see

>>379448948
>like any rpg
>mmo's holy trinity
yeah no

>>379443318
Based, I enjoyed the fuck out of Q even though it was hilariously easy to break.

I just hope the balance is better, god damn were over half the class useless while Da Man could fucking tear bosses apart, or Door-kun and Naoto who could basically solo most of the game.

>>379443646
>Persona
>Persona 2 IS
>Persona 2 EP
>Persona 3
>Persona 3 Portable
>Persona 4
>Persona 4 Golden
>Persona 5

>>379485463
>Door-kun
Meh, he was just mid-tier support magic user. The real MVPs were Kanji and Chie, seeing how physical and crit builds reign supreme in Q.

Damn.
This new RH art looks a fuck ton better.

I didn't ever care about this game til I saw the new art style.

>>379485574
Door-kun functioned as Naoto 2.0 for mob sweeping, but yeah, he's a support unit. Great for locking down bosses though. Arguably the best frontline units were Chie, Aigis and Junpei. Junpei is a late bloomer, his endgame damage is ludicrous, especially if buffed by Chie. Aigis can make the frontline immortal while Chie can make the fronline crit.

Kanji and Akihiko are better than Junpei before getting the Ultimate Persona, but once they do Junpei skyrockets past them.

>>379485639
Now the girls faces look like potatoes.

>>379453212
Pay? For 3DS DLC in 2017? Haha! What a wonderful little jape, my friend! Good show! :)

>>379438007
>>379443454
there's a reason that anime art has progressed in the direction it has over the past 20-30 years; it's evolution. you can call it generic, but that's just because it's overwhelmingly what people want and as a result it's what gets produced. there are people who prefer different things (i have a soft spot for the artstyle that was popular in the 90s), but they're a minority and so those different styles remain pretty niche. if you want your art to have broad appeal, you don't deviate too much from what's popular.

>I share a board with people right now, at this very moment, who prefer long hair over short hair

All of your shit tastes aside, what was the point of changing artists? Atlus seems to have little reservation having someone else draw over everything another guy worked on.

>>379486849
I prefer long hair over short in general, but the new RH portraits are still trash.

>>379460385
i can't get into ch/if games at all
i want to so bad but the gameplay is just not my thing at all

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>>379486765
>if you want your art to have broad appeal, you don't deviate too much from what's popular
They CAN do it, but they choose not to because "playing it safe" is guarenteed weeb bux.

>>379443229
>>379444179
>>379452946
>>379459940
>>379480194
As i said, i didn't play it past a few hours, you retarded fucking pieces of shit that can't even read.

It's a shit franchise, not worth the time.

Okay, so, what are the odds of the following:

1) The new content in Radiant Historia Perfect Chronicle is some dumb shit that adds nothing of worth to the story and ends up only making the game a less tight experience.

2) The new girl, and her route, in Strange Journey Redux are objectively a happier and all-around better choice than any of the original 3 routes.

>>379487125
pretty much. businesses will almost always do things they believe in their own interest.

>Go to the trouble of changing the overall art style
>The game itself still looks pretty much the same.

>>379436673
>North America

so another 1-2 years until it hits the EU E-shop then?

And no, I won't pirate on my 3DS since I have about 60 titles locked onto it via e-shop sales.

>>379480421
Because he's not a teenaged twink, has a stable job he's good at and continuously works on over the course of the game, and isn't allowed to solve all the world's problems on his own - I really hope this remaster doesn't actually staple on a "oh the desertification's fixed now too" because the implication that Stocke might have to go the way of heinn one day, and the small kernels of hope you can plant in sidequests to imply a possible solution, make the ending probably the best-done examples of an open-ended narrative I've ever seen.

>>379487395
> have about 60 titles locked onto it via e-shop sales.
So what? You can pirate infinite number of games.
Also, if you're a moralfag, you don't have to pirate. Just install a CFW with region-free features and import the games from the US.

>>379487664
Hey, hey. Listen to me carefully, criminal. I'm not authorized by Nintendo to install "CFW" or anything like it on my 3DS, so I don't do it. Simple as that. Go peddle your lack of morals somewhere else.

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>>379448731
Go with what sounds good to you, then adjust later on. My first game was EO4 and I put Fortress, the tank class on the back row like a retard since I figured she'd be able to Taunt enemies and use the partywide defense buff there, but by the midpoint of the game she was super useless and I just replaced her with a Medic. That fit my party comp a lot better, since I wasn't lacking in damage mitigation anyway with two Landsknechts with the Swordbreaker passive skill (chance to halve physical damage to the row your 'Knecht is on).
Just make sure you have enough damage dealers and variety in the damage types and ailments you can dish out while also trying to not die too hard.

>>379487818
>I'm not authorized
It's your piece of hardware, you bought it. You don't need to be authorized by anyone to do anything with it.

>>379487664
>Get hit by the new ban
Yeah, no.

>>379436673
>3DS shit
Who cares.

>>379487395
we got IV Apocalypse a few months after with physical so I assume these games will follow suit

>>379488024
Have you been banned? Do you personally know anyone who have been? No. It's just a hoax. There was no ban "wave", just some idiots got themselves banned for cheating in Ninty's first party games online.

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>>379471439
This would be one of those cases where I would have to agree with the concensus
EO2 > EO3, except for the soundtrack

>>379488148
Either way, the point still stands.

I'm not gonna risk any kind of CFW on my 3DS when the only thing left that I want to play is EO5 which will eventually come over here.

>>379487149
>Can't even beat a no-grind-needed RPG EVEN WITH GRINDING

You might just be mentally retarded, anon.

>>379438251
Dungeon Travelers is really bad. Only vitafags praise it.

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>>379438653
>EO
>grinding

>>379460385
>vita
>compile heart
>sega of america

>>379471439
But
Untold 2 >>>>> EO3

>>379489340
>Untold 2
2 Untold

I've been a 3ds owner for years and just recently bought a vita. It's going to be hard to go back and play strange journey on that small 240p LCD screen...

>>379488759
Why would i try to beat a steaming pile of low budget trash anime game? I regret wasting 3 hours on it.