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Here's the new ost you faggots, shillblood thread

https://mega.nz/#!kCx0FS5Z!zr5OYpk1u2IQcsDP4Lxn-tIXhR9C_ZklMWnik4u1Zo8
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>>379432304
Is this good?
Potency: 154.00/s DPS*: 2800.53/s Time elapsed: 299.7s reset

Just a standard 5 min parse

Based on that RDM simulator website - https://tylian.github.io/rdm/
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The healer problem is going to reach a boiling point next weekend
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Convince me to pay $80 for the first month.
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>"This is the Monk expansion"
>Sent into the cuckshed in your own expansion.
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The plot twist is going to be that Xenos actually kills WoL, and it will be revealed that WoL is unwittingly a body snatcher like the Ascians being forced by Hydaelyn to keep coming back to enforce her will. This was the reason for Elydibus' "We're not so different you and I" speech when you first met him.
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>>379432554
>$80
How?? It's more like $55
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>>379432480
Average, everyone is getting around those numbers
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>>379432554
Please don't. We don't need any more scrubs like you.
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When is the last day to pre-order for the early access ?
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>>379432624
I like it.
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>>379432624
I never liked Hydaelyn.
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>>379432679
15th probably, just do it now, it's only 40 bucks
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>>379432679
The day before early access
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what do you type when someone says howdy? Im not a cowboy so i just type hello, feels weird as fuck. do people say howdy everywhere in america?
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>>379432554
I think you should wait for 20, when SB releases, you don't need to buy HW. Won't convince you anyway, do as you want lol
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Urianger is the only good Scion, and he's a chunni NEET fag.
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>>379432624
It's pretty sad that the Ascians won't have a presence in Stormblood. It will feel weird without them.

Also, the game is really trying to hammer that Garleans = Nazis with the beginning having Nazi music. Not there is anything wrong Nazi's they're actually the good guys, but too many sheeple are still blue pilled about the Nazis.
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>>379432860
I greet them the way I greet everybody and don't think too much about it. No, not everybody says howdy here.
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>>379432537
Why? Now that they removed the most fun part about healing, cleric stance, people stopping notice of you don't dps
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>>379432304
>All this is doing is revealing that healerfags cant do anything but and simply take the path of least resistance to get carried by the DPS and Tanks.

Further proof different game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPtQz9KfF8
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>>379432860
Howdy I'm from texas though
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajF7ieJ3gfo New Larry video!
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Name your favorite FFXIV streamer.
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>>379432860
I started using howdy and folks and I live in california.
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>>379432990
>video from /ourguy/

Hell yeah
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>>379432913
Wait, was it Naxi music? Soumds more like USSR motive to me and I'm russian
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>>379432997
Larryzaur
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>>379432860

U WOT M8?!
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>>379432990
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>>379432860
Oh la amigo
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With cleric stance dancing gone I'm hoping Scholar will remain fun by giving me more room to micromanage my fairy.
That being said in dungeons it will probably be mindnumbingly boring and it wouldn't surprise me if they see a big drop in the amount of players who do dungeons as healer. I will certainly stop doing my roulettes as scholar.

>>379432997
tuatime
tfw no finnish christmas cake gf
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>>379432860
Are you seriously asking how to respond when somebody greets you?

You say hello. Jesus Christ. It doesn't matter how they say it, it's a fucking greeting. Are you legitimately autistic?
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>>379433081

More like, Gay...zuar
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>>379432304
Anyone got a DL for the Duality album?
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>>379432860
yosh!
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>>379432886
>Urianger is the only good Scion
>Forgetting that Hoary Boulder, Ocher Boulder, Coultenet, Aenor, and Clemence exist.
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>>379432925
Because of retards like you looking for any excuse to get carried
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>>379432304

Oh all the song titles are in moon runes!
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New to POTD. Only ever did 1-20, and that was a while ago. Have a couple of questions..

Do I need to go to floor 50-60 on RDM to be able to queue for it?

And how do I continue to queue for 50-60 after completing it, don't you automatically have to do 60-70 afterwards?
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>>379432913
>sad about no Ascians

Anything is preferable to Lahabrea cackling like a faggot. Thankfully
he ded
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>BLMs lose Swiftcast to the new cross class system
>instantly gains Triple Swiftcast
>WHMs lose most of their shit to the new cross class system
>gains nothing in return
Not biased at all.
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>>379432997
>watching mmo streamers
>watching streamers at all
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>>379433262
No joke, I would legitimately be happier if Y'shtola, Thancred and Lyse died/fucked off and the B-team took their place in MSQ.
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>>379433319
you don't need to unlock starting 51 on red mage, and you just delete your save file and choose to start a new save at 51
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>>379433319
>Do I need to go to floor 50-60 on RDM to be able to queue for it?

No. It'll set RDM at level 1 and start you on floor 1.
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>>379433354
White magic is for fags.
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>>379433354
>conplaing about BLM as a WHM when AST exists

Skewed priorities friend
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>>379433319
Once you have a weapon at 34+ or so, you can queue for 51-60 and beyond. You do not have to do it as RDM, it can be as any Job; all that matters is the weapon level. You can reset your progress between floors without resetting your weapon.
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>>379433319
just complete 50 on anything, I think. Never did them after first time, except going with friend once.
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>>379432624
The body snatching is just the endgame ability of the Echo dude. They revealed this way back during the Leviathan segment.
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If I wanted to get into hardcore Stormblood raiding, what should I do?

I'm on Gilgamesh but, I'm not in any linkshells and my FC is all casual.
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>>379433354
Yoshidas reasoning is that they're a pure healer so they dont need extra attacks/raid utility.

As you can see that didnt go over very well.
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So when do I have to pre-order by to get into the early access? Sadly I don't get paid again until next tuesday.
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>>379433429
I don't know if I'd want it to go that far but having the B-team scions involved int he main plot for a bit would be great.

Plus then Aenor could suggest the Warrior of Light have a threesome with her and Ocher Boulder
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>>379433559
Use pf use pf use pf use pf use pf use pf
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>>379433062
Just generic nationalist anthem to hit home that garleans are imperialist/totalitarian/despotic bad guys
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>>379433567
You have til the 15th
>being so broke that 40 bucks is the difference between you making it through a week or not
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>>379432860
its Ey Hey or a simple hello.

but if I really want to fuck with somebody I say Hola.
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>>379433287
I'm always pushing myself dps wise because I find that fun. When I tried to sell xiv to friends the first thing I mention is cleric stance. I'm not if I even want to continue with Scholar
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>>379433354

So basically you're complaining WHM can't Swiftcast things now? Maybe you'll actually have to git gud and plan out your raises between mechanics now. Maybe your teammates will have to try harder not to die.
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>>379433705
I know I know, I just started my new job so money's gonna tight for a little bit.
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>>379433567
The day before early access I would imagine so 15th. Just pay for it now. Are you that much out of money?
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>>379433559
Learn how to play your class so you don't think about basics ever (sit on dummy for a while). Then try to contact static recruters even if they ask for experience. Try to get yourself into new trial with them in first month of SB, then everything is up to you.
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>>379433783
Just use credit and pay it off later. By next Tuesday you should be fine though so it's ok.
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>>379432997

Merri because he's cute. He should face cam more.
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>>379432860
"Mighty fine day, yessum partner yippe ki yo ki yea yeeeeehaaaaw let's wrangle us sum clears and get home in time for supper"
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>>379432304
>Personne est français ? lol
My fucking sides
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>>379434046
>let's wrangle us sum clears and get home in time for supper
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>>379432304
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Look at this triggered Summoner cuck, he needs to project an unrealistic scenario to feel better about his shitty class getting nerfed.
Have fun being BENCHED, while I'm in demand, because healers are always needed. Just wish other healers didn't bother doing DPS instead of trying to be elitist and making NORMAL unpopular in statics.
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>>379432304
I just want a fun static where I can make friends and say stupid shit while completing alex s and getting ready for 4.0. :^)
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combo's for healers when?
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So we will only have Tues and Wed to cap out our poetic..... wait, it won't really matter will it.
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>>379433754
wut
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>>379432304
>that image
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>>379433730
You're one of the good ones then, I meant people are going to be rightly pissed going into an expansion and having a lazy leech forced on them, they've put up with it now but it's been getting worse and this might be what tips it over the edge for a massive back lash
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>>379434324
Yeah. The combos are literally based off RNG and just for healing alone.
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>Caster DPS who don't give me my MP

GET FUCKED, I AIN'T DPS'ING IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME THE HEALER YOUR MP SKILL.
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>>379434037
On the one hand there's Sophia who tells me to just end it all, and then there's Lakshmi who will embrace me when I actually do it
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why is this fucking nip riding a griffin? He isn't ala mhigan and this expansion better not be all about Doma and the special snowflake doman npcs
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>>379434258
>healers are always
Hi, PLD here to tell you that no you aren't and with RDM having a decent heal your are even less needed
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>>379433754
What did he mean by this?
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>>379434046
Gonna start using this now thanks
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>>379434690
That's not a griffin, that's just a giant fucking parrot. Clean the shit in your eyes.
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>>379433332
Ascians are a big part of the FFXIV world. It would be like a Mario game without Bowser or blacks without their fried chicken.

>>379433062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhU16cYeWx0&t=0s

It is pretty Nazi.

>>379433674
Ironically there is absolutely nothing with imperialist/totalitarian/nationalist even though our modern cucked society loves blue pill about it.
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>>379434690
Those are hippogriffs :^)
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>>379434690
That is just a big bird.
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>>379432304
Healers are expected to DPS in XIV? I haven't had fun healing in an MMO in ages, is it at least interesting and involved in this game and not just another health bar management mini-game where I rarely if ever even need to care about resources like mana?
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Just finished the MSQ after having put it off for months
>all that YOOOOOOOOOOOOO and samurai clichés
>Nero basically being Vegeta down to his jap first person pronouns
That was fun.
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>>379434690
He looks so fucking gay. What is it about /fit/ samurais with ponytails that makes them look so homo? It's the same with Hinata from Fire Emblem Fates
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>>379434847
Your fragile concept of masculinity.
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>>379434842
Nero is the hero we need but not the one we deserve.
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>>379434847
>a warrior class dedicated to honor and homolust
I dunno anon.
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Every day it's fake ass queues. Somebody out there is probably dumb enough to wait.
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>>379432624
so we just happen to snatch a body that looks just like our character?
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>>379434790
It's not like they're gone forever, it's nice to build up Garlemald as a credible threat again, they were largely absent from Heavensward aside from the Warring Triad side story. It's also nice to finally have a villain without an Ascian sitting on his shoulder tempting him into being evil. They'll be back, and probably stronger than ever once they inevitably finish their scheme to revive Zodiark
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>>379432860
Gomenasai, my name is Ken-sama.
Kenichi Smith, I presume desu ka?
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>>379432990

no need to shill yourself here cucumberman, pretty much the entire xiv playerbase is already subbed
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>>379434824
It used to be until people complained now it's health bar whack a mole and no more stance dancing since your dps scales off your mind stat like your healing strength
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>>379435212
Considering how limited the XIV character creator is this shouldn't be much of a stretch to believe possible
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>>379434847
I don't know but I want to have amazing anal sex with him!
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>>379434824
By the devs? No.
By the community? Most will say no, but everyone (except the "no-DPS-allowed" healers) really hopes that you will do it anyway so the party can clean the dungeon faster.
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>>379434847
I would let him fuck me, don't know what you are talking about.
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>>379435334
>once they inevitably finish their scheme to revive Zodiark

Uh, anon, their scheme to revive Zodiark is making a whole bunch of Umbral Calamities to absorb the fragmented worlds back into the Source.

For Zodiark to be revived we'd need to go through at least 5 more Calamities. So, you know, the thing which ended 1.0
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>healers who don't want to heal

Why in the blue blazing fuck would you rather stand around doing nothing for half the dungeon?
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Predict 4.x primals
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>>379435449
>By the devs? No.

Yes. I don't care what vague statements YoshiP makes. The way Final Fantasy XIV is designed clearly shows that healers are expected to DPS.
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>>379435531
>he thinks they won't bullshit something to make Zodiark the final boss of 6.0

Come on now Anon
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>be too good at your job
>world still ends up being destroyed
Fuck Hydaelyn.
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>>379432304
Healers CAN do DPS, but it should never be required of them in actual end-game content.

Retards
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>>379435610
Four fiends from FF IV
Mostly so I can rub one out to Barbariccia
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>pop potency increase CD
>immediately use D/HoT
>use other high potency skills for burst
>use D/HoT again right before potency increase falls off even if D/HoT doesn't need refreshing
Ex: DRK Blood Weapon > Scourge > XYZ > Scourge, WHM Divine Seal > Regen/Medica 2 > XYZ > Regen
Does this make sense or am I wasting a GCD? I started doing it to keep +potency D/HoTs going for longer.
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>>379435554
*Don't want to DPS I meant, derp
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>>379435635
>literally says they are not expected
>vague
enjoy doing all the work while i sit back watching netflix
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>>379435424
Every time you use a Fantasia that's the WoL snatching a new body.
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>>379435334
I can agree with you, but the problem is in the new trailer it is obvious that Zenos is stronger than the WoL and the Scions and that is a power discrepancy. After we the WoL have killed countless primals and an emo dragon we get lay low by some weeaboo guy in a tin can. It isn't going to make sense how he is stronger than us without some Ascian backstory like how Gaius couldn't do his shit without Ascian backing.
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>log on to see if the east coast lag is as bad as people say
>NIN is literally unplayable
>well maybe I'll play DRG in Stormblood
>double oGCDs still clip a 2.5s GCD
jesus fucking christ
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>>379435610
Genbu, seiryuu, byakko and suzaku
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>It's a US player on an EU server complaining about the Ping

Fuck off you absolute retarded monkey.
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>>379435827
OK let me put it this way.

If YoshiP didn't want healers to DPS he'd adjust the damage enemy's do so that they didnt have time to DPS.
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Are there level 30/35 npc gear vendors?

I just picked up AST but i have no low level gear at all and i dont wanna get kiked by market board
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>>379435554
Netflix isn't going to watch itself anon
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>>379435635
Yoshi himself said they aren't expected to DPS (multiple times), and there is no content in the game that can only be cleared with their offensive spells (with mechanics like "only healers' damage can destroy the boss' barrier").
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Liberty or death
Liberty or death
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>>379435871
>2.5s gcd on drg
end yourself
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>>379434258
>I don't really want to help you guys clear this any easier
Gee I wonder why statics don't want your lazy ass.
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>>379436085
probably camp dragonhead or the observatorium
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>>379435712
I'm tired of that crystal bitch and the Scions. When can we join the Garleans?
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>>379435862
He has a normal blade, a blade of Light and a blade of Darkness. Notice that he's brandishing the Darkness blade at the WoL, this motherfucker is packing to kill any Aetherical shitfucks who cross his path regardless of their allegiance to Light or Dark. If he was backed by Ascians I doubt they'd provide him with the means to double cross and kill them, especially after what hapened to Lahabrea
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>>379436124
It doesn't *matter* what YoshiP said.

What YoshiP *does* is make content in which healers are expected to DPS.
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>>379435715
>leveling dungeons are now end game content
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>>379436159
silly me not having proper skill speed on a class i dont play
retard
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>>379436085
Costa del sol or whatever the place called
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>>379432304
What is currently the worst healer?
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>>379436213
Yoshi actually said that there was something else behind Garlemald's sudden expansion that wasn't Ascians.
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>>379436351
White Mage.
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>>379436085
>he doesn't have a full battlemage set ready to go
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>>379436023
but he made healchecks really easy since 3.4 just to encourage more healers to do endgame stuff ;)
this is the only game i played where healer "mains" let people die straight up from non lethal damage, likely because they play with one hand only while they ram a dildo up their asses with the other.
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>>379435419
>Health bar whack a mole
No that's WoW. The only time you'll be out of cleric stance is to burst heal at certain times or your team is actively fucking up mechanics.
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>>379435140
Why would you line up for a fake ass?
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>>379436351
Depends on the user.
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>>379436380
>something else behind Garlemald's sudden expansion
Doesn't the lore book say they started expanding after finding a bunch of allagan shit
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>>379436219
Even Yoshi has said healer dps is a good idea if you want that progression clear. He just hasn't said it's mandatory, which is true.
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>>379436380
It's not like the Ascians have been shown to be all powerful.

Heck, Tordan straight up out-maneuvered them. Using them to learn how to Summon Primals, then once Lahabrea was weak straight up killing him, while bypassing their plan to use Primal summoning to weaken Hydaelyn by using Nidhogg's eye as his source of Aether.
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How many death flags is too many for one trailer?
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>>379436629
I swear they better fucking not, she's one of the only non shit Scions
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>>379435871
Try transferring to the EU DC :^)
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>>379436629
I like how there were so many deathflags that not being shown seems like a deathflag.
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Raise your hand if you've never seen a healer keep the prey target alive in A11
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I think the problem with this game's healing, particularly WHM is that because Healers are expected to DPS, there has to be healing downtime

To provide that downtime, heals need to be able to quickly top people off after they've been hurt, so healers can get back to DPSing

Therefore you have lots of high potency, bursty heals, and quite small HP bars.

If the damage was steady but less bursty, and the healing potency was lower - a pure healing class could shine more. But as it stands, where the vast majority of a fights damage comes from 'big aoe in 5 seconds' any healer can just drop some mitigation, pop a couple AOE heals and top everyone off instantly and get back to DPSing

this also really hurts HoTs
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>>379436629
Of course the trailer was going to be cut to make it look like a bunch of people are going to die.

Y'Shtola and Asile are not going to die, though Krille is possible.
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>>379436629
Good riddance, fuck Lalas.
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Don't forget about your threadly dose of Stasis Loop.

https://files.catbox.moe/bu2eph.mp3
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>>379436629

She, Y'shtola and Yugiri are all going to die
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>>379436693
>lala
>not shit
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I've been a MNK main but I don't really know if I want to continue being one in SB. Not because of potential nerfs or whatever, since I've been playing MNK this whole time despite them not being "meta-viable". I'm sure I'll still outdps like 95% of the playerbase regardless.

I don't know if I want to keep maining MNK because they got barely any changes or improvements to their rotation. I mean when you really look at it:
- Riddle of Fire is just a replacement for Blood for Blood
- Riddle of Earth is just a replacement for Tornado Kick to help preserve stacks during boss ults.
- Earth and Wind Tackle are pointless because you'll be in Fists of Fire 99% of the time.
- Tornado Kick is still useless
- One Ilm Punch is still useless
- Arm of the Destroyer is still crappy
Really, the only changes they received to their base rotation is that Touch of Death is gone, and every now and then you get a free Forbidden Chakra. That's it. I don't know if I want to keep playing what is essentially the same exact rotation (only even simpler) for yet another expansion. But I've been playing it for so long it's hard to give up, even my character appearance is designed to best suit the Monk job and anything else just feels "wrong" somehow.

If we could have gotten just one new attack it might have been fine. Even if it was just making Tornado Kick not shitty.
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>>379436542
Nope. The original Garlean homeland was on top of a massive ceruleum deposit and Solus was the one who figured out its potential. Cid's father Midas happened to be a fucking engineering genius and their magitek let them expand across Ilsabard. Something worth noting is that Cid mentioned while he was young his father suddenly changed and started acting like a monster, which is why Gaius took him in. They found Allagan shit later, mostly due to House Darnus' bloodline.
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>>379436750
>I think the problem with this game's healing, particularly WHM is that because Healers are expected to DPS, there has to be healing downtime

It's the other way around. Because there's healing downtime Healers are expected to DPS. Reduce healing downtime and Healers will DPS less by necessity.

If they wanted to kill Healer DPS all they had to do was make Cleric Stance unable to be changed in combat, instead they removed it and made it easier for Healers to DPS.
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>>379436619
Exactly. Just like avoiding aoes/doing mechanics are only mandatory if they one shot. Or that tank damage past enough to keep aggro is also not mandatory.
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>>379436629
She won't die because she's in the Warring Triad subplot. Unless they make finishing the Warring Triad required to progress the MSQ.
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>>379436823
There are a handful of good ones
Krile
Momodi
Papashan
Pipin

That's about it tho
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>>379436907
Basically the Garleans were on resource poor land until they started an industrial revolution and figured out how to use all the ceruleum they had, which they used to fuel their conquest to get lands with other resources.
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>>379436629
>Papalymo first
>now Krile
Good, now kill off Tataru for total potato removal.
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>>379437007
They probably will since it introduces the new Scion and kill Regula.
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>>379437007
Sidequests canonically take place in whatever patch they're introduced. Just like you can go back and do the DRG quests after finishing Heavensward and Estinien will act like he never met you. Or you can do the level 50 CLN quest while Nanamo is still "dead". Nobody is safe.
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>>379432913

Nazis are the bad guys though.
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>>379437018
You're missing one.
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>>379436827
>- Riddle of Earth is just a replacement for Tornado Kick to help preserve stacks during boss ults.
Also it literally won't work 95% of the time unless fight design departs dramatically from Heavensward and ARR's.
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>>379437068
>now kill off Tataru

You monster.
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>>379432304
Holy fuck, this guy literally destroyed healonlycucks
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>>379437038
Yeah, but Yoshi implied there was some mysterious force helping them along that wasn't Ascians.
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I want to fuck Wind-up Yda!
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>>379436827
>Tornado kick is still useless
Don't worry brother, as a MCH, I too will now understand the pain of a strong but incredibly situational skill.
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>>379437216
By humorously answering a question about a specific unlikely instance? That whole thing was basically just "I AM SILLY".
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>>379430401
What's ABnormal about them? They don't bend their lower arms outward to look kyute^_^ like midlanders, they don't stiffen up like elezens, and they don't try to swing their shoulders off like male cats and lizards do.
If anything, they are TOO normal.
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>sam can shoot air slash bolts
>mnk still has no proper hadouken
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>>379437264
This but in front of Yda
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>>379437386
So in front of her tombstone then?
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>>379432624
How the fuck you even kill the WoL
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>>379433730
>dpsing as the easy mode "fairy does the healing for you" healer
I don't know why you would miss cleric stance when you have to press it less often than an aggressive WHM
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>>379437136
Tataru? Eh. She's ok, I guess. She does get points for being one of our only companions that was with us during our darkest hours fleeing to Ishgard I suppose.
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>>379437221
>some mysterious force
Hydaelyn
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>>379437524
Stab the motherfucker with a knife
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>>379436945
thats what i said though

if the damage was slighter but steady the healers would have to heal all the time to keep people topped off rather than LMAOburst healing the raid then pinging ruin at the boss until the next AOE comes
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>>379437614
>Stab the WoL.
>Time Literally Reverses
>WoL now has Echo Buff, knife bounces off chest, WoL stabs you harder
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>>379437018
>all the generic nice shitters
>missing Lolorito
Yeah, fuck you too.
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>>379437614
>Echo
>the WoL is back up again
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>>379437524
Same way you kill an ascian and how one if Thordans knights would have killed us after the vault if it wasn't for Haurchefant taking the hit
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>>379437545
Not the one I had in mind.
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>>379437373
forever cucked
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>>379436827
I feel the same way. As much as I wanted to keep playing MNK through SB since the expansion is focused on MNKs. Nothing new and exciting is being added for us. The nerfs in potency to the very skills we'll still be using and with nothing added to make up for it, not to mention Riddle of Fire makes us go slower.

What's a good job for a MNK to switch to? SAM?
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>>379435610
Guan Yu
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>>379437530
See >>379436213, he's got a Blade of Darkness all queued up to off WoL similar to the Blade of Light we've been using to off Ascians

>>379437726
Which one then?
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>>379437706
I'm goooooooonnnaaaaaaa TAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE THIIIIIIIIIS BAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIITOOOOOOOOO
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>>379432304
thx for the soundtrack. I am NOT buying a blu ray drive for squenix soundtracks.
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>>379432304
Link to thread?
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>>379437806
>Competent
>No annoying voice actor
>Completely inoffensive
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HA HAHAHA HOOOOIIIIIII
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>>379432860
As someone who says howdy. I do not say it in a country style, I say it like people say hello.
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>>379438013
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>>379437978
>Completely inoffensive
Lol he's a lala, don't kid yourself.
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>>379437978
I completely forgot he exists, not sure if that's a positive or not
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>>379437978
>Stupid unrequited love plot
Fulfill your name and die Wedge.
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>>379432860
Salut
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>>379438120
He's a garlean lala.
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>>379438013
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I can't believe that furfags are going to get their own race
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>>379438013
LET'S GET OUTTA HERE
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>>379438013
MUTTON! FRESH MUTTON!
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>>379438408
in b4 they're just retarded helmets
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>>379438158
Wedge lives, Biggs dies dummy.
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>>379438417
Of all the nonsense in a crowded area, this one stands out to me every time.
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Their going to replace all our friends in the Scions with a bunch of Weebs aren't they?
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>>379438408
I wonder what primal these fucks are going to summon
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>>379438408
like it fucking maters at this point there are enough degenerates, i say bring on that rat people from 9 so i can here all the cat people complain
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>>379438495
No Anon, you're the weebs
You're going to notJapan, they can't be weeaboos.
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>>379438450
Hey you! We have just what you're looking for. Prices so low you won't even try to haggle
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>E3 trailer
>songs don't pound you over the head with the same fucking leitmotifs
>dungeons aren't as narrow as an anus
thank god

>>379438495
I'd take that over the clusterfuck that's the scions
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>>379438475
they have tails
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So the story for 60-70 will be what?

>Rush into ALLY MIGO
>Get ass kicked by overwhelming force
>Retreat to Doma
>Get a larger army
>Go back to Ally Migo and win
>Ally Migo is endgame hub
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>>379435712
>Whole point of WoD's story is that actually defeating all the Ascians would be the worst possible thing you could do
>Nobody ever addresses this fact and the Scion's goal remains to defeat the Ascians

This story is getting fucking stupid
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>>379438616
Could be fake tails and really dedicated furfags too
Pretty unlikely though
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>>379438408
Look like face masks.
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>>379438681
They didn't say that.

They said defeating all the *Darkness* in the world would be bad. The Ascians aren't the only darkness in the world.
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>>379438631
this is what i think as well and most likely will happen
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BRD or SAM?
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>>379438631
More likely we take Mhiggertown through subterfuge/revolt from within.
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>>379438631
This is the likely arc I think.

With probably some big world ending threat pushed somewhere in there.
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what did they mean by this
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>>379435949
That would be pretty sick if they did a yu yu hakusho reference like that
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>>379438834
SAM if you want to hit hard
BRD if you want to be a support
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>>379438756
they have tails
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>>379438491
>the old days when you'd go to a dramatic cutscene and there would always be some dinner party happening just offscreen
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>>379438681
The Ascians, at least Elidibus, Lahabrea, and Igeyorhm, are fighting to keep the balance too. They're not looking to engulf any worlds in darkness because that makes them unable to be rejoined.
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>>379438863
That wound be ironic since that's how Garlemald took it in the first place
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just got to level 60 for the first time
what should i be shooting for gear wise? so i can finish at least the post game story before stormblood
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>Hydaelyn kicked Zodiark out because he "craved power"

In what way? Is the current state of things where the world is split into shifted dimensions teetering on the brink of collapse, constant Calamities, and basically requiring that the agents of Chaos be permitted to cause at least a little wanton death now and again lest the world be swalled by a Void of Light any better than what would've happened if she hadn't kicked him out?

>>379438906
The "world ending threat" is probably that Xenos plans to use the incursion as an excuse to finally stamp out the Eorzean Alliance once and for all.
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>>379439040
Seems good then. I just don't see Eorzea alliance wining in a stand-up fight. Eorzean troops are nothing special in numbers or quality.

I mean they could change things up, but it's always been WoL + friends doing the wetwork, no reason it will be different this time.
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>>379439128
The final dungeon of 3.0 requires an item level of 230. So that's the minimum.
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>>379439128
If you can handle pvp you can get 235 gear from it.
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>>379439170
She says he craved power and was threatening her existence, but then how did she even have the strength to rip him away? And now he's a tiny, lifeless husk (the Moon), compared to the massive planet Hydaelyn is. What really happened is that he was probably trying to maintain balance while she was being a greedy whore and she needed to take care of him.
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Why does anyone want to play MNK again? The potency nerfs ruin all MNK had going for it, solo single damage. Now it's supposed to rely on Chakra (shit), Brotherhood and Riddle of Fire? Both have 90s cd and last 15s/20s, and you'd probably only get like 10 Chakras in that 15s netting you just two Forbiddin Chakras (now 250 potency dropped from 320). How is this supposed to make up for your damage nerfs for the rest of the 70seconds? I want to play MNK for consistent damage, if I wanted cyclical burst I'd play DRG. All the other new skills are useless and do not increase damage at all. Literally a waste of 3 potential abilities.
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>>379439292
Because you're a fucking retarded if you're making judgments before playing the fucking game

Now fuck off
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Trying to do the 2.x relic quests, even with the nerfs, was a mistake.
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>>379439282
It's more like, I think, that Hydaelyn and Zodiark were once one being, but after some internal conflict split itself into two, sealing away their darker half.
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>>379439240
which pvp gets good queues?
i was trying roulette but it takes forever
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Wasn't there something about a LiveLetter from E3?
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>>379439128
Go do pvp, you need a minimum of i235 to finish the story which you'll get from pvp
Do whatever msq quests and dungeons you can in the meantime, one week should be enough time for you to finish as long as you don't drag your feet gearing up
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>>379432913
Rewatching the trailer, the Emissary is talking. If we're being honest they didn't really appear much in heavensward until right at the end.
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>>379439386
>tooltips were revealed
>b-but it's just a beta!
Sorry that you're an illiterate ni[B][B]er.
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>>379439458
Yes. Wait until e3.
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>>379439458
Tuesday.
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>>379439427
Well yeah, that's exactly what we've been told. But Hydaelyn's version of events doesn't really add up. Zodiark's corpse, which would also contain his half of the original crystal, is fucking tiny compared to what Hydaelyn has. If he was greedy and hoarding all the aether to the dark half, wouldn't the Moon be fucking huge?
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>>379439438
The frontline roulette sometimes is pretty quick to pop, otherwise just select Shatter, and maybe Sealrock and the other one.
Majority of the time it will be Shatter though.
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>>379439438
if you're at 60 roulette takes 5-15 minutes. people only play shatter
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>>379439426
>think it can't get worse after grinding fates all over for atma
>get my first book
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>>379438918
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>>379439573
>>379439578
Thanks.
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>just got the Gaius card for doing praetorium in roulette
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>>379439704
delete this now
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This is the most hyped I've seen /v/ about anything in a while

How big a disaster is it going to be?
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>>379439626
Orrrrrr it was simply that the since the Light half of Proto-Hydaelyn won the argument it got the bulk o the Aether.

Seriously these "Ooohhh Hydaelyn was evil all along" theories are so dumb. It's not going to happen.
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>>379439626
Hydaelyn split Zodiark into the 13 parallel worlds.
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>>379437524
Drug them and then cast them into the abyss.
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>>379439824
If /v/ was actually that hyped about it there'd be dozens of threads ranting about how terrible it's going to be.
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>>379439669
You can get an 8v8v8 seal rock or level 50 pvp in the mornings. I just got a level 50 pvp match yesterday. Still pretty rare.
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>error 90k
HAHA NiCE fUUCKING west coast Server Se
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: fuc california :clap: clap: :clap:
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>>379439923
Works on my State :^)
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>>379439824
10 threads a day at launch
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>>379439867
Zodiark is the Moon. The 13 worlds are a side effect of the sundering which also spread both of their essences across it.
>>379439836
So how did she win if he was so damn powerful that it was threatening her existence? Did you not understand that the point of the WoD storyline was to make you question Hydaelyn and tell you that Light is just as dangerous as Dark?
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>>379439867
No what happened is that the splitting fragmented reality into 13 parallel worlds.

The fragmentation was a side effect, not an intentional action.
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Are there any more confirmed WHM buffs?
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What should I do before SB comes out?
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>>379439753
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>>379439964
>10 threads a day at launch
are you new?
Heavensward lauch day had no discution because everyone was playing it
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>>379439824
She's her "friend" she tells stories to, huh? Does Rowena pick up all the random orphans she finds and puts them to work turn tricks for adventurers?
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Take this shit to /vg/
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>>379440038
no amount of buffs is going to help them. They need an entire new skill to ever be viable
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>>379440110
>/v/
>playing video games
no such thing
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>>379440038
>Are there any more confirmed WHM buffs?
they got nothing this expansion

enjoy the shed
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>>379440110
you forget the servers crashing and the login queues
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>>379440110
All the dps will need to do something while waiting for Qs though
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>>379439992
>So how did she win if he was so damn powerful that it was threatening her existence?

Just because the Dark half of Proto-Hydaelyn was threatening existence doesn't mean that it was necessarily stronger in the event that the Light and Dark halves were split.

>Did you not understand that the point of the WoD storyline was to make you question Hydaelyn and tell you that Light is just as dangerous as Dark?

The point is that unbalncing Light and Dark is bad. Hydaelyn wants balance while Zodiark doesn't care about that and wants All Dark All the Time, so it had to be sealed off.
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>>379440165
She does, actually. Rowena is an actual fucking slave driver that invites girls who are down on heir luck or who are hopelessly in debt to work for her. And then she doesn't pay them in gil, she only pays them in scrips that they can only spend at her store.
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>>379440094
Try and make money if you want a shot at getting a house. Level gatherers or crafters to 60 and any class you want to 60. Save up on shit like hunt seals or pvp seals.
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>>379440247
I don't remember that.
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>>379439824
These threads are super active. They archive in 1-2 hours.
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>>379440275
>Hydaelyn wants balance
She's never once said she wants balance. She's constantly telling you to banish the Darkness. Elidibus has been the only person so far who has shown they're working to create balance.
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>>379440296
I wish I could be as jew as Rowena.
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>>379440110
>>379440247
I consciously made the decision to avoid both /v/ and /vg/ until I finished the story in Heavensward, which was apparently a wise decision since a friend got spoiled by the unfunny retards in the general having dying Haceufant as the OP image.
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>>379440038
hi, my dad works at square
whm gets "critical rate up" and "balance draw rate up". the meta will be WHM+[other healer]
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>>379435610
Amaterasu (if she isn't the final boss) and Tsukuyomi
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>>379440382
>She's constantly telling you to banish the Darkness.

Because the Darkness is currently trying to overwhelm the world and destroy it.

It's not her fault that Zodiark was a prick and the Ascians keep destroying worlds to try and wake up their god.

Seriously, you're saying that Hydaelyn's the bad guy when on the other side Zodiark has literally destroyed 7 worlds. Entire planets, millions of people straight up destroyed.
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What tank jobbo should I level first?
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>>379440275
>while Zodiark doesn't care about that and wants All Dark All the Time,
No? Elidibus specifically states that a Void is of no use to his master.
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>>379440414
4chan is the worst place on the internet if you want to avoid spoilers.
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>>379440547
The Ascians have only killed one world, and it was an accident. The other worlds had their Lifestreams collapsed into the Source. That's why it's called a Rejoining.
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>>379440578
A void is no use to his master because it can't be destroyed and sucked up to awaken him.
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>>379440647
>The other worlds had their Lifestreams collapsed into the Source.

Which killed the world.
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>>379440562
Whichever appeals to you.
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>>379438934
>reference
you're aware these fucks are actual mythology beasts right
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>>379440256
So hyped for the 1 hour dungeon queues needed to progress the story.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sts79jbH1EA

This is your Main Tank for the raid, say something nice to him.
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>>379440417
>whm casts faith on ast
>increased belief in the heart of the cards guarantees alternating ewer and balance draws for five minutes
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>Doing Chocobo races on my own for a while
>Suddenly there's somebody else in the race with me
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>>379439704
I'am fairly new to this game and the Cuckshed meme is dumb as all hell forced even by some autists who feel the need to shake off whatever asshurt they've felt.

Why is Warrior in the cuckshed specifically for what reason ?
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>>379439836
Hydaelyn is very suspicious.

>WoL given the echo
>it lets you see the past
>echo conveniently doesn't let you see the beginning of the universe or anything of the past such as the Allagan and everything that the echo kicks in only to benefit that the Allagen or the Garleans are the bad guys

That's some libcuck/CNN fake news level of propaganda.
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>>379440183
Better get used to it. It's only going to get worse as StormBlood approaches.
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>>379440765
The worlds are gone, but all the aether and life that was on that world enters the Source's lifestream to be reborn. That's what the Warriors of Darkness were trying to do so they could salvage the lifestream of their world before the Light ate it all.
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>>379440884
Warrior is currently the strongest tank so Dark Knight and Paladin got some buffs.
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>>379440837
i don't play with shitters
i would never play with any of those garbage players
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>>379440884
Don't take it seriously, we're just having fun.
The recent media releases on the new skills showed important skills removed from the warrior kit and paladin was strongly buffed.
That's it.
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>>379437614
Every chucklefuck NPC saying they would do this had no idea, right?
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>>379440901
>>echo conveniently doesn't let you see the beginning of the universe

That's because the Echo connects peoples souls. So you'd need to find someone who existed at the beginning of the universe and connect to him, because what you're seeing is a persons memories of the past.

It'd doubtful that even Midgardsomr, ancient as he is, was on Hydaelyn when the universe started.

>hat's some libcuck/CNN fake news level of propaganda.

Oh wait never mind. You're an idiot.
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>>379440870
>you beat that other person
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>>379440870
>crushing randoms at R300 Sagolii that don't use super sprint.
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>>379440901
There's this thing called Alys Iys with horrible abomination created in this huge floating Allagan isle you mong. Stop forcing your gayass agenda on to everything.
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>>379440908
That doesn't mean that destroying the world isn't bad.

The Warrior's of Darkness were trying to make the best of a bad situation, before The Word of the Mother agreed to go to their world and siphon off the excess light to save it instead.
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>>379439824
the closer it gets to ea launch the faster it will go and then a few threads of login queueus and then


...endless silence...
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>>379432304
Excuse me friends, I just started playing 14 yesterday, I'm level 8 now. Started with the maurader class. Any specific quests I can do to help me level up fast and play with friends in the free company I joined? Any and all help is appreciated.
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>>379440870
>It's some cunt with a rank 9 chocobo when you're just trying to do some casual races
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>>379441352
The Main Story Quests.
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>>379437716
I dunno.
Sometimes the WoL is a walking god of destruction and in other moments he goes out with poison
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>>379441352
To catch up, you have to follow the main story quests. Just leveling up won't do it. Content is locked behind the main story.
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>>379441395
The WoL is powerful, but still mortal. There are people that can do things they can't and there are things more powerful than them.
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>>379440947
>>379441036
>were just having fun.
Okay then because from what it sounds like warrior is still in a good place and will still hit considerably hard.

Some people DO take it seriously remember that.
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>>379432860
(muffled screaming)
or
(muffled eurobeat playing in the distance)

That's how I greet all my groups.
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>>379440837
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>>379436629
Guessing you go to that garlian research w/e place and rescue her. This being a cutscene sometime before entering the dungeon.
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>>379441371
They're trying to do the same thing and farm MGP

Least I know I am
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>>379441389
>>379441427

Are those the marauders guild quests?
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Now that they're upping the quality of life I hope the game now automatically shows debuff descriptions as soon as you get them so that you don't have to mouse over it to see what the fuck it is. Other games are already doing this
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>>379440870
>See the same 7 people at the chocobo square all fucking day

They gotta really like chocobo racing.
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>>379441781
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Main_Scenario_Quests
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>>379441395
It's more like you're a walking god but a fucking retard, WoL has a serious case of JRPG protagonist syndrome. Sitting around doing nothing while big bad uses macguffin is the worst offender in this game.
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>>379441781
No, those are class quests. They're not part of the main story but they are equally important because they give you important abilities.
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>>379441395
The biggest power the WoL has is Echo, which only makes them immune to tempering. The Blessing of Light also gives what may as well be a bottomless pit of aether to access for crazy shit. But they're still mortal. The Scions are as powerful as the WoL, if not more, but they don't have Echo so they can't help us fight primals. And Zenos is about to push our shit in.
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>>379441874
>The Blessing of Light also gives what may as well be a bottomless pit of aether to access for crazy shit.

Not really. It was actually a plot point that we were relying on it so much that Hydaelyn was running low of strength. Which is partly why Midgardsormr sealed it away for a bit.
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>>379441869
Reminder that if big bads weren't able to use macguffin there would be no reason for conflict, story progression and gameplay
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>>379441841
One change is that you can see which debuffs can be cleansed. It's no longer a guessing game.
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>>379441874
>But they're still mortal
With the echo literally rewinding time in the event of our death, that's what respawning after a wipe is
Plus we can magically understand every language thanks to the echo
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>>379441874
>only makes them immune to tempering
The Echo is such a powerful gift it lets the WoL TRAVEL BACK IN TIME to see(even interact with!) shit that's already happened, too - they just can't change MUH DESTINY when they do
Blessing of Light seems more like Anti-Ascian shit to me, considering you've never needed it to fight primals, just to gut Lahabrea out of Thancred and get it stolen away by Midgardsormr.
>they don't have the echo
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SCION HAS THE ECHO DO YOU NOT PAY ATTENTION
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>>379442024
Just assume it happens much faster than portrayed in game.

Either that or the Warrior of Light *lets* the big summoning happen because they'll get a good fight out of it.
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>>379440870
when you stay behind just to get meteor and saunter past them at 0%stam
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>>379442075
>that's what respawning after a wipe is
No it's not. The game literally tells you what Return is when you unlock it. Full wipes to important boss fights just aren't canon, but most instances when you use Return is your body instinctively jumping into the Lifestream and popping out in a safer place. You aren't dying when you're knocked out.
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>>379432304
Thanks for the download link.
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>>379439578
Mostly JP games this year. Good to see.
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>>379442137
>EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SCION HAS THE ECHO

Not true. Minfilla and Krille are the only scions that have the Echo.
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>>379442137
The echo is the lore reason why you don't die when you lose. The battle you lost was just a vision that echo showed you.
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>>379442137
>EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SCION HAS THE ECHO DO YOU NOT PAY ATTENTION
I pay attention. Apparently you don't. Minfilia, Krile, and a couple of lesser NPCs like Arenvald are the only Scions with Echo. Minfilia had other Echo-users, but almost all of them died when Livia raided the Waking Sands. Thancred, Y'shtola, Yda/Lyse, Papalymo, and Urianger don't.
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>>379432576
math has been done that monk is possibly still going to have overall higher DPS over a fight period than samurai
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>>379442137
They don't all have the echo, literally only Minfillia and the lala krilie or whatever have it. They go over this CONSTANTLY.
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>>379434037
This is going to kill my PC, assuming I can even run Stormblood.
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>>379442281
Nice reddit headcanon there buddy.
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>>379442137
no they don't, only you, Minfillia and Krile had it. The rest have various protections against primal sit but it's not solid (Y'shtola and Urianger can't go to far into the Triad facility)
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>>379442201
I didn't say return retard and saying "wipes aren't canon" is because the echo reverses time so it didn't happen, go read the lore book
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>>379439292
Fists of Fire increases your damage to 10% instead of 5%. So really you guys lost about 3 potency on each of your normal weaponskills.
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>>379442387
It was said in one of the lore panels.
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>>379442396
Heck, Thancred is actually more vunlerable to Primal influence than average people.
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>>379442419
I have the lore book and it says nothing about your reddit headcanon bullshit.
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>>379442369
Have you tried the benchmark?
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>>379442481
>gets btfo
>r-reddit
Fuck off, you were wrong and clearly don't even pay attention if you think all the scions have the echo
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>>379442060
Maybe now the healers will actually cleanse Titan's Damage Down on the dps
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>>379442594
Wrong reply chain, buddy. We're talking about how wipes are non-canon and the Echo has nothing to do with it.
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>>379441871
I started in Limsa Lominsa, any idea where or who I would talk to? Or where to go?
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>>379442153
I don't think position determines items like in Mario Kart. You can be in last place and never get anything good.
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>>379442469
>we'll probably never get to fight and kill the other shit scions after they've been tempered
>if they ever do something like this it will be with Hoary and Coultenet because they are seen as unimportant
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I know I'm like 2 late on this but was not expecting best bro to die in a lvl 57 duneon
>that somber music of Ishgard you get kicked out into


Why is this main quest so much better than ARR
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>>379442730
there are catch up chests that spawn behind the first 1-3 people with lots of hero tonics and meteors
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>>379442741
Because ARR was episodic with primal of the week bullshit.
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>>379442697
>gets btfo
>the other thing he was wrong about is brought up as an example
>w-well I meant this though
You're still wrong about the echo
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>>379442841
Fuck you, ARR was great. So was HW. Fuuuuuck you fags. 3.x was a lot worse than 2.x though.
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Aren't wipes just the WoL theorycrafting
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>>379441352

do your hunt log

unlock the challenge log (via quest in the limsa lominsa tavern)

do the hall of the novice when you reach it (free gear and exp boost ring that lasts til level 30)

unlock palace of the dead at level 17 (gridania tavern)

follow the main story quest

all of those things combined will make you level very fast
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>>379442741
Because the writers have gotten more experience, listen to feedback, and know what works and what doesn't.
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>>379442893
Alright buddy, so post the page where the lore book verifies your headcanon about wipes. Spoiler: You can't, because it doesn't.
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>>379442721
The meteor icon I posted is the symbol for the main story quests.

>>379441427
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>>379442732
>tfw Shinryu uses Papa lmao's corpse as an intermediary, which is why no one found it
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My lala wife and me convinced a static member to become one of us!
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>>379442236
Every Scion but fake Yda has it.
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>>379442138
>because they'll get a good fight out of it.
I wouldn't put it past one who canonically conjured up the entire Thordan EX fight in their head
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>>379442741
They do a nice job returning to that in some later quests. Be sure to pick up the optional quest once you finish Nidhogg.
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>>379442993
Don't have it with me or I would, but since you claim to have the book then you can just as easily post the echo page where it goes over what the effects of the echo are which would prove you right
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>Nobody asks any of the Dragons if they'd like to join the Alliance despite mutual hostility to the Garleans
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>try out battle hall roulette for first time
>every fucking match reverse rule pops up
baka
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>>379443235
Yeah, I can. Make sure you stick around so you can feel like a fucking idiot. Scan incoming.
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>>379442915
ARR has some of the worst parts of the game

Minfila constantly making you return to the Waking Sands
The Titan fetch quests
Castrum and Praetorium having dozens of cutscenes in the middle of a dungeon
The slog that is 2.1 to 2.4.
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>>379443110
I think that's one of the things they "changed" in 2.0.
Originally a LOT of fucking people saw the event that granted the Echo in the first place, but post-2.0 they only specifically acknowledge the presence of the Echo in those two, I think?
Had to do with them toning back the use of the Echo - in 1.0 you used it ALL the fucking time to see shit that happened. After that, barely used it fully ever again.
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>>379443243
The garleans have nothing to do with the dravanians
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>>379440414
It's better to start doing that for SB too, otherwise you might stumble upon some spoilers like how Yugiri gets almost maimed to death by Lyse when she learns that she was part of the Doman deathsquad lent to Garlemald as part of a deal for a non-aggression treaty (that they later ignored), that wiped a good chunk of the Mhigan officers before Garlemald's attack on Ala Mhigo.

Thankfully that spoil isn't real.
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>Play a tank
>My job is just to hold hate, not do damage
>Run to a single mob
>Spam flash til I'm out of mp
>Wait for mp to refill
>Pull next enemy

But it's fine because I'm a tank, not a dps!
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>>379443235
>>379443325
Alright, here it is. So where is it verifying your headcanon about wipes?? Because I don't see it. Wow, it's almost like you're talking out of your fucking ass because someone on reddit told you bullshit.
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>>379436124
When Amdapor Keep Hard first came out it was very difficult to clear without the healer contributing damage, especially the Demon Wall section.
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>>379434037
I hope that's her song
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>>379443620
Those bees were the fucking worst.
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>>379443620
>before the Holy/Flare falloff nerfs
TRAIN PULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
At straight up release it was pretty rough, though. Also had to dodge the last boss' catastrophe attack and kill the adds, you can just facetank and shitslap him nowadays.
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>>379434037
she looks too normal
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>>379443560

Fuck you, as a DPS my job is to just do dps, no one said it had to be optimal dps. So long as I at least keep my auto attacks up I should be fine too.
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stormblood on vita through ps4 pro remote play
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So should rdm be gear more as crit/det or spell speed you think?
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>>379443786
With all the unbelievably shit players in this game, I wonder how often they all get matched together in a group, with no one to carry them, causing them to fail to clear the most pathetic content like dungeons.
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>>379443576
>the power to transcend time
>say dying is time being rewound and the wipe being a vision
>b-but nothing in the book supports that
>n-nevermind literally nothing on this page supports my own theory
>r-reddit reeeeeeeeeee
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Yoshi keeps killing off/completely changing the original cast. Who else is even left from 1.0?
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>>379443620
It was only difficult if dps sucked. The healer didn't need to do damage.
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>>379443754
She looks more like the Goddess of the Warring Triad than Sophia herself does, barring the second head/daughter.
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>>379443837
Crit/Det. Spell Speed will be shit for RDM due to Dualcast and their melee skills.
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>>379443897
Did you even read the passage you illiterate piece of shit? The Power to Transcend Time is the name of the ability where you jump into someone's memories.
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>>379443837
>Spellspeed when half of you casts will ignore it
Yeah, you should put everything in it.
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>>379443809
Did people even use that feature
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>>379443897
Not that anon, but that isn't what the original claim was, and multiple posts have distinguished between time travel and having a vision. Seeing the past is not the same as traveling through time.
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>>379443837
>still caring about secondaries
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>all those RDMs popping up that claim that they'll never use Vercure because they're DPS and not healers
Expansion isn't even out yet and there's already bads.
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>>379443837
rdm gear will be crit and direct hit

There's almost no chance that det will be better than direct hit.
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>>379443754
What do you think is under her dress

>>379443927
You know who she looks more like...
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>>379444161
Vercure isn't as potencylet as I thought. It might be a bad idea to spam it because RDM is looking like the "mana pls" job
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>>379443907

Path Companion.
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>>379444002
People used the PS3.
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>>379444180
Gosh dangit I forgot about the goddamn name fuckery. I always remember that sprite as "Starlet" so my brain didn't connect it.
Whoops!
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>>379444246
The idea is that you use it when there's nothing to attack to get a Dualcast and instantly go into stronger spells skipping Jolt.
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>>379444290
They probably died off-screen when Livia killed everyone.
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>>379444161
Is Vercure just a generic cooldown or is it a spell that you cast?

>Ver
What the fuck. What was wrong with "Cure", "Holy", "Aero", etc?
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>>379443351
Except for the bit where they're at war because of the Empire invading Mor Dhona which is the framework for the entire plot?
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>>379444180
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>>379444246
Sources say that red mage does have another means to recover MP but it wasn't present in the tool tips. It would be really stupid to design the job without one so I can believe it.
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>>379443837
Probably crit/dh. I can see the value of spellspeed though, the lower your gcd the faster you build mana, but I doubt it'll really matter.
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>>379444375
It's like they came from the same game
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>>379444357
Did you miss the whole Dragonsong thing?
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>>379444352
Those spells already exist retard
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>>379444352
i was hoping it was actually Val, like first suspected. Would have liked a connection to Isle of Val, but then again their backstory was revealed to be refugees from both Mhach and Amdapor learning to coexist.
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>>379444064
Except in echo visions in 1.0 you literally were traveling through time and even altering people's memories of the events you interacted with, the game is clear on this and how the echo works
Which again if he payed any sort of attention to the game he would know
>>379443963
Yeah and it still supports the claim others made about the echo and does nothing to back you up
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>>379444352
It's a normal spell. A potent one too. Vercures cure close to 6k HP at i290.
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Wait so everyone is bitching about WHM being relegated to pure healer, but if Cleric Stance is being taken away and spell potency being shifted to MND, doesn't that mean it will actually be easier and therefore more desirable to DPS as WHM? To me it looks like the new WHM mechanics are meant to provide longer DPS windows by allowing faster and bigger heals based on procs, i.e. get your 3 stack of lilies and then you can nuke more and let the HP bars drop lower than usual because you'll be able to fill them up more easily. Am I reading all of this wrong?
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>>379432860
"Hey there fellas".
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>>379444430
So?
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>>379444489
White mage will be god at aoe killing large dungeon packs because of thin air.
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>>379444180
I hope there's a phase where she actually presents a a snake/tentacle monster girl I'll change my mind but she doesn't look like a primal imo
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>>379444489

All this board means by "pure healer" is "it doesn't have a raid DPS modifier buff" which is a retarded metric but then again this is /v/
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I just got to HW content, and I decided to put some time into learning DRK. Should I be using Darkside alongside Grit in pre-Lv50 content, or only when doing trials?
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>>379444462
>Yeah and it still supports the claim others made about the echo and does nothing to back you up
You're insane, dude. It does nothing to support any of those claims. You saw the word 'time' in the name of the power and tossed in your own headcanon.
>Except in echo visions in 1.0 you literally were traveling through time and even altering people's memories of the events you interacted with
Minfilia flat out told you in 1.0 that you were not traveling through time and you could not change the future. You were only altering the MEMORIES of whoever you were invading, so that they thought you were a part of them all along. It didn't actually change what truly happened.
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>>379444489
Lillies don't buff you or your healing, they just reduce the cooldown of ONE spell by a maximum of 12 seconds.

Lillies will most likely be completely ignored by most WHMs. Just a random bonus and nothing more.
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>>379444603
The game isn't coded to have two different spells with the same name.
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>>379444425
Oh yeah, the part where making peace with Ishgard means they're now at peace with the Empire who invaded them and killed their king?

That Dragonsong?
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>>379444352
They aren't those spells, so why would they be named them?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1MXs_cRgkQ
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>>379444630
darkside should be up 100% of the time or you're bad.
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>play pvp
>its fun
uh oh
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>>379444726
In programming/database terms you just give them different IDs.

Veraero and Verholy don't function the same way as the regular versions, though, so it makes sense to give them different names.
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>>379444634
>tell him to show some proof that he's right
>posts proof that he's wrong instead
>reeeeeeee I'm not crazy you are, h-head canon, r-reddit
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>>379444623
I'm going with the idea that she's actually a bitch and will show her true form during her trial
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>>379444885
>Lying

uh oh
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>>379444489

You generally won't even have 3 lilies. You'll have 1, maybe 2. You can use a lily to cast a 15% damage shield on a target once per minute, so in a way it's another free oGCD ability you can use to heal/prevent damage which is what WHM is designed around. People are just mad they don't anything like Balance or Chain Stratagem, and don't listen to people who say it encourages "playing wrong" because these people are fucking retards who think that in Savage progression you just roll Medica 2 and Regen and never cast a Cure because Bokchoy on Reddit told them to.
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>>379444892
Learn to read, faggot. That's all I can say to you. Invading memories is not time travel.
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>>379444630
Please, don't be the guy who only turns on darkside on bosses. I really don't understand what's wrong with those people.
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>>379444887
This game uses systems like macros. You identify abilities by name not ID numbers.
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>>379444885

I can only derive enjoyment from PvP by playing healer and imagining the enemies frustration as I constantly top myself off.
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>>379444932
Considering how much they're pulling from FF6 for this one, wouldn't be surprised
Though I'd legit prefer Chadarnook as its own boss fight, seeing a Mag Roader boss was pretty rad
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Why did yoshi kill summoner and make it boring

This was supposed to be our time
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>>379444862
I know, but should I be using Grit in the early content or use Darkside exclusively to keep using Blood Weapon and maintain it? Or should I be learning to better maintain MP and when to use the Siphon Strike combo?
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>>379444949
I suspect that Divine Penison doesn't even require Lillies to cast. The "consumes all lillies upon use" in its tooltip probably just refers to the fact that Lillies reduce its cooldown.
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>>379445023
FUAK U GAIJIN YOU WANT NEW EGI WWE GIVE NO EGI
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>>379445023
They didn't. Bahamut is the opposite of boring. The job is slowly becoming what a true summoner is. Less focus on dots and more on pet damage.
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>>379445057

I legitimately hadn't considered this. Interesting.
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>>379445091
Give it up anon they are still not happy about it.
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>>379445057
Based on the footage from the media tour it did require at least one Lilly to cast though.
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>>379445169

Because they'll never be happy about anything unless the optimal DPS comp is SMN, SMN, SMN , SMN, and even then they'd still probably complain about some fucking bullshit like Tri-bind.

It's me again, the guy that fucking hates every Summoner player and hopes they'd just kill themselves already.
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>>379445091
>press button to summon bahamut once every two minutes
>it autoattacks for a bit until you tell it to use a bigger deathflare and then fucks off, leaving you to return to spamming ruin for another two minutes

i can barely contain my excitement
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>>379444949
As a Cleric dancing WHM who regularly uses Cures, I'm just not seeing the big deal here. I guess it would be nice to have some shiny new things that aren't functionally worthless, but being able to shit out nukes and heals on the fly without constantly shifting Cleric is honestly as good of an upgrade as I could have hoped for given our track record. I'd even go as far as complaining that it makes the job too easy now, but so many WHMs are complete garbage that they need all the help they can get.
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>>379432656
You're playing a game where they make all your items useless every 3 months & you do the same dungeon over & over to get welfare points. KYS asap lad.
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>>379436351
Depends really on what you mean by worst and what kind of content you will be doing.
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>>379445369
Implying summoner now isn't just about spamming ruin 3 after your dots are up.
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>>379444962
>alter the past
>that's not time travel reeeeeeee
>alter future events with a vision
>that's not time travel either reeeeeeee
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>>379441293
That was such a shitty part of the story.
>My world is dying to the light so I will do what I must
>Oh shit what? Yeah alright I'll go suck up that extra light my bad homie
>Everyone leaves
Fuck you Hydaelyn you goddamn retard.
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>>379445479
You're not altering the past, you're altering memories of the past. Holy shit.
>alter future events with a vision
Literally never happens a single fucking time.
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>>379444818
>There will never be a battle theme better than Steel Reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhr2mLhmdR4
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>>379436804
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>>379432860
Torontofag here. I always greet people I know with howdy. I love the look of confusion on everyone's face.
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If I see a healer who doesn't dps in my dungeons post-4.0 launching I'm going to do as little damage as humanly possible to make them suffer.
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>>379445532
>gaining knowledge you didn't have doesn't influence your actions and the future
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>>379445036
Use Grit to get ahead in enmity. Keep it up if your healer is a vegetable and struggling for whatever reason or dont and make him work.
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>>379445319
I don't care if the job is not in the autistic fflogs meta comp or whatever, I don't do that shit.

I just want it to be fun to play. They wanted to change the focus of the job so they removed the DoTs, but then forgot to replace them with anything beyond a two minute oGCD

Great game yoshi
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>>379445397

I don't get it either anon, but the community is up in arms over it because they're mouth breathers. Top groups will always bring SCH/AST because they have DPS steroids and because /v/ is full of posers they'll just parrot those groups and treat anything as shit if it isn't optimal. It's the one thing I hate about autistic MMO players more than anything else.
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>Instead of something new WAR gets to use a 3.0 skill 6 times
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>>379445683
>looking up on the internet how to change a tire is now time travel because it alters the future of how you would react to a flat tire
This is some top tier delusion.
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>>379445667
And then you'll get kicked since most tanks are retards that will just do whatever the healers says
Which is exactly why I'm going in as a pld for all that self sustainability and siding with dps bros and kicking lazy healers
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>SB boss theme was taken down
it's ok, i didn't want to get burned out on it before the expac launches anyway
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>>379445787
and WARs are fine with that because they're braindead retards who care more about DPS than tanking and will avoid tanking whenever possible
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>>379444002
FSH do. That shit is so handy.
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>>379445791
>making hyperbolic statements because you can't handle being wrong
>equating google to magic visions and time travel
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>>379432997
OnlyAfro
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>>379444623
Primals look like whatever the summoners want them to look like. Nothing is "off limits" for what a primal can look like
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>>379445715
Even putting aside that no progression group is going to want to take a WHM, their changes are just plain shit. They lose more than any other healer, while gaining less. Their gauge mechanic is unfun and almost entirely useless compared to other jobs where their gauges are integral to the core of the class's gameplay. Their new abilities are super weak and underwhelming. And on top of that, their healing, the one area they are supposed to excel in, isn't actually any better than SCH/AST.
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>>379445712
You still have your dots. You just have less of them and they're on longer durations with higher potency to make up for losing contagion.

The job honestly didn't change all that much aside from the bane nerf (RIP.) Ultimately you'll have more gcds for whatever because you'll spend less time needing to reapply dots and shadow flare. Maybe you can instant cast to actually raise someone since it will no longer be burned on shadow flare.
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>>379445712
This is why I didn't touch SMN and I won't touch it now. It went from being gay to something less gay but still gay.
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>>379445791
Dude shut the fuck up already. You're right. He's fucking trolling you.
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>it's a SCH complaining about the removal of the flipswitch episode
>as the healer who has to press it the least often out of the three
really shadow flares up my neurons
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can I impregnate catgirls in this game?
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>>379446297
Pregnant NPCs would be neat.
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>>379446052
I'm actually more upset about the loss of Fluid Aura than anything. It was fun to use and I got way more utility out of it while leveling up than is probably reasonable.
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>>379446194
Shh don't tell him, that he didn't realize no one gives a shit about respawn lore is hilarious
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>>379446012
I'm glad the server change made the game unplayable for him.
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>>379446297
only catboys they are the ones who carry babies much like sea horses
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>Frey is a WHM
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What's your favorite when-it-was-progression dungeon?

From 1-60, with legitimately appropriate for that dungeon equipment.

Haukke Manor for me, shit's great i m o
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>>379446052

>Even putting aside that no progression group is going to want to take a WHM

This is exactly what I meant by /v/ is full of posers who only parrot world progression.

There's going to be WHMs in progression groups that get kills early on they just won't be at the cutting edge, week 2 versus week 1 in Creator difficulty terms.
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>>379446348
If it's the utility you want then Fluid Aura still has it
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>Entire expansion later
>Cant have elf ears on midlanders

what was the POINT
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>There are people SO AUTISTIC they have to explain respawning in a fucking video game with lore

Literally laffin' right here, lads.

Why are they so autistic, my dudes?
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>>379436804
Nice virus
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>>379446480

Vault.
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>>379446556
Her ears obvs
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>>379446513
>pushing enemies out of the aoe zone
>utility
A good tank will already compensate for casters while grouping enemies
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>>379446297
>wanting to impregnate a stray and not wanting to make an order of hashbrowns with your potato waifu
But why?
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>>379446451
>read the journal
>Fray is a girl
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>>379446559
The game does have a lore excuse for everything
What is it for respawning and wipes again?
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>>379446556
I feel like at some point, half-races will be available to the players.
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>>379446572
Final boss of Vault has every single thing necessary to be GOOD SHIT(tm), gatdam.
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>>379445091
>dots now last 30 sec
>almost never have to refresh then since tri disaster now resets on dwt
>literally cast ruin 1/2 80% of the time
Extremely fun and engaging job design yoshi :^)
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>>379446626
It's more for soloing and leveling.
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>>379432860
Respond with another unorthodox greeting;
Yahallo, Wassup/Waddup, Yoha (broha), Olah, etc. But I'm on a JP server so I kick things off with a good ol' fashioned よろしくお願いします
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>>379446656
>outing yourself as a female character degenerate
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>>379439282
>Hydaelyn is the physical planet itself and Zodiark is the moon

Next you're gonna tell me Gael is the deepest boss in Soulsborne
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>>379446626
Then I don't know since damage is damage, not utility.
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>>379446703
Refreshing dots is fun?
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>>379432304
>grinding pvp to get to 230 so I can finish MSQ
>30+ minute queue for feast
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>>379446627
Fuck that. I want cat lolis
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>>379446587
You motherfucker.
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>yfw you'll never get to play as a loli catgirl

why are they so cruel
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>>379446770
Queue for Frontlines.
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>>379446703
summoners bitching again

Why don't you fags just play something else?
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>>379446725
I can't imagine any nips saying that entire fucking line
I'm expecting it to be よろ
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>>379446749
Isn't FA losing its damage though along with blank
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>>379446073
>You just have less of them and they're on longer durations with higher potency to make up for losing contagion.
>Ultimately you'll have more gcds for whatever
I mean, that would be great if SMN had anything interesting to spend its GCDs on outside of DoT management. Those GCDs you would've spent reapplying DoTs will now be spent on... more Ruin filler. You don't even actually interact with the new Ruin IV proc mechanic . When Ruination procs, it replaces your Ruin I and Ruin III buttons. You just keep mashing Ruin and occasionally you'll consume the proc, but it does not factor into your decision making or force you to react in any way whatsoever.

I'm not saying 3.x summoner was the pinnacle of MMO class design but I don't see how this is anything but a step backwards.


They took a class that was already pretty simple, and for reasons I cannot fathom, greatly reduced the importance of its core mechanic (watching DoT timers), and then replaced it with nothing. If they added some new spells to make your pet do stuff, then I wouldn't be as annoyed, but all they really gave us was a two minute cooldown that changes the appearance of your egi for 15 seconds and lets you Deathflare again.
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>>379446656
nigga what's 2+2 you dumbfuck
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>>379441842
It's the best MGP gain
Although youll probably have verything you need MGP wise once you get a perfect chocobo
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>>379446754
Watching 4 different timers is definitly more fun than spamming ruin that auto upgrades to ruin 4 for 2 minutes yes.
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>>379446770
>Feast
You fucked up.
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>>379446754
more fun than mashing a filler spell, yes, which is what refreshing dots was replaced with
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>>379446754
Staring at a timer then casting dots as they fall off is ENGAGING
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>MCH until 70 is now completely gutted
>You can't even really heat until 60 or get good gains from it
THANKS FOR RUINING MY JOB YOSHIHACK
RRREEEEEE
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>>379446815
>yfw you'll never eat cat loli pussy
KILL ME
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>>379446556
What was the point of adding some halfing? It didn't even add anything to the story. It's like modern entertainment where they have to throw in some black person for no reason.
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>>379446980
>jobs dont get integral pieces of their kit until higher levels
tell me more, anon.
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>>379446739
I'm a girl though
>>
Whiny summoners. If you don't like it then go play another job.
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>>379446754
you don't understand, i have to WATCH THE CLOCKS while spamming ruin. it's hard

even BLM has a more intricate clock mechanic than fucking dots. yes, even after SB thanks to the juggling
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>>379447038
i;d love to kill you, if possible.
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>>379446980
>can't get good heat until 60 or gain good dains from it
>"My job"

You don't have MCH at 60?
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>>379446843
It gets shortened a lot, but I'm very polite since I don't need to give them more reasons to hate gaijin after Americans came to Tonberry en masse during Midas for "ez clears" and turned Elemental's DF into Russian Roulette for the the locals.
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>>379447051
fucking eorzean progressive cucks
>>
Pruning is a fucking mistake and Yoshida is a fucking hack.
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>>379447096
E O R Z E A
O
R
Z
E
A
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>>379447139
>>379447080
This wouldn't be a problem if you didn't have to do so much levelsynced content you dipshits
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>>379447051
whats the point of having anything other than hyur at all t b h it's like they just want to throw in deiversity for diversity's sake
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>>379446980
What are you even talking about? Heated Shots + 60s Wildfire overheat bursts is better than anything you can do now 50-60.
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>>379447163
Miss m
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>>379447163
>baww why did they prune all these VARIED and DISTINCT [potency] and [opener buff] skills
as an AST and BLM player not only did they prune most of the shit skills nobody uses, they got more tools to play with thanks to that
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>>379440837
Whenever I raid I'm in a constant state of rage or anxiousness, so seeing people having fun while raiding just seems weird to me.
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>>379447253
Every job is like this anon, it's not just machinists, and has been like this since 2.0
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>>379447135
Well I'm not an immortal so yes, definitely possible.
>>
We need tanaka's vision to save this game.
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>>379447329
no sane person bar xi cucks miss this outdated, xenophobic hack
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>>379446817
Frontline queues are even longer.
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>White Mages get nothing cool.
>Warriors get nothing cool.
>Monks get nothing cool.
>Summoners get an awesome bahamut. They still whine
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>>379447038
Mi'kittens are not for sexual. They're for making joyous memories with and for protecting from all the bad things of the world.
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>>379447329

Every day.
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>>379447462
6 fell cleaves! xDDD
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>the azure dragoon
>he goes from black to red but definitely not azure
>the black shroud
>it's green
>the limitless blue
>it's green
>the sunken temple of qarn
>it's not underwater
>the immortal flames
>they aren't invincible
nice game yoshi
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>>379447494
Mooncats are always for sexual. They horny 24/7
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Which healer was in the cuck shed? WHM or SCH?
I wanna heal but AST is gay as fuck
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>>379447462
>White mages still have their base gameplay untouched
>Warriors still have their base gameplay untouched
>Monks still have their base gameplay untouched
>SMN have half the buttons taken out and made into a Ruin machine
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>>379447462
Who CARES about summoning fucking BAHAMUT when I have one less AIDS spell to infect enemies with. This job is fucking RUINED
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>>379447651
underrated post
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>>379447643
>SMN have half the buttons

>go from 3 dots to 2
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>>379447631
WHM has been in the cuck shed since 3.1

SCH will be cucked
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>>379447720
You forgot shadowflare, anon
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>>379447631
>SCH has a literal FAIRY
>AST has sparkly stars

nigga dey both gay
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>>379447762

Reminder that WHM/AST will be the meta.
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>>379447596
>the sunken temple of qarn
the temple is half-devoured by sand, that's why it's sunken
>the immortal flames
it's more of a muh morale will never falter shit cause people in thanalan are fucking retards
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>>379447631
WHM and SCH. The only reason no one is really complaining about SCH is that they're guaranteed a spot for that crit buff. But they still got shit on.
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>>379447774
That button that's still there?
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>>379447786
How is the fairy gay if you can fuck it
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>>379447786
>military tactician in full uniform with a hot, thick fairy assistant is gay
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>>379447774
>60s cooldowns
>15s duration
Why. Three DOTs + Shadowflare + Ruin meant a 5 button GCD rotation. That wasn't bloat at all.
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>Hate current MCH because it's all luck based bullshit
>RDM simulator is the more fun than any class in the actual game
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>>379447856
Yes but now I only hit it once per minute instead of twice. Don't you see how my gameplay has been irreparably raped?????
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>>379447762
WHM has been in the cuck shed since XI launched in 2002. It only ever had a brief window of greatness when WotG launched and WHM/SCH became the new meta, but that was short lived and they never recovered.
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>>379447786
there's nothing gay about cumming inside of your fairy
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>>379447869
is your penis that small, anon? :3c how cute~
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>>379447869
Fairy bodyjobs when?
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>>379447643
Anon stop. You're showing your ignorance.

If you think summoner had more taken from them then you don't know anything.

Every job lost important abilities. Summoner isn't alone. Stop being so damn self-entitled.
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>>379447924
A travesty, SMNs should all band together and let Yoshi know they don't want to be a pet-mage, they want to be a dot-mage
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>>379447949
t. surito carito
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>>379447975
Fucking summoniggers
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>>379447962
>Every job lost important abilities
Golly gee I'm surely gonna miss Stella, Disable, Thunder II and Manawall
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>>379447962
PLD didn't lose shit
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>>379445908
Retard.
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>>379447962
It's not about losing abilities it's about your core rotation turning into spamming 1 (one) spell for 2 minutes.
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>>379448106
Why would they remove more from one of the worst jobs in the game?
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>>379447962
>whm lost nothing
>war lost nothing and in fact gained literally SIX fell cleaves
>mnk lost touch of death and gained a cool new fist mechanic in return

meanwhile summoner lost what little gameplay they had and got a shitty in-combat egi glamour in return

thanks yoshi
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