Smash Bros. for Switch

>>379431547
Ice Climbers

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>>379431547

>>379432087
>>379432301
/thread

>>379431547
>more 3DS stages ported
>Smash Run ported
>Shitty Smash Tour removed
>Bomberman
>Waluigi
>King K. Rool
>Inkling

You're gonna get Inklings and a shitty Rabbid. The end.

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>>379431547
>Make smash run and smash tour online and with random people
>Buff the shit characters, leave high tiers alone
>All the 3DS maps
>Wolf and IC's
>Put in 64 style mode gameplay (WITH SOUND EFFECTS)
>Put in melee style mode gameplay
>Put in Brawl Style gameplay

das it mane.

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>>379431547
>>379432435
AHH OOOOOH

>>379432751
>the "Rabbids are getting a game with Mario, so that means that they're gonna get in smash" meme
Nice cognitive dissonance retard. By this logic any game releasing during Summer should be in Smash. Classic Sonic? Reimu?

>>379432751
Inklings are cool. Rabbids not so much.

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>>379431547
>>379432673
>>379432806
objectively though

all stages
all modes
Wolf, ICs and Snake
Possibly new character

I really would want Waluigi and/or Bomberman but those are more wishes than essentials

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>>379432751
>Rayman gets spot cucked by a fucking Rabbid

>>379432857
>classic sonic
>sonic version of toon link

dear god no more clones

>>379433341
Clones are fun and don't take away any real "character slots".

if you don't like em don't play as em.

>>379431547
Mickey Mouse

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>>379433734
>not Sora instead
get a load of this guy

>>379431547
definitely not a fucking shitty smash 4 port everybody seems to be clamoring for
"super smash bros. for nintendo switch" just like me favorit "super smash bros. for nintendo 3ds"

i'm about to get an aneurysm

>>379433591
i didnt say I didnt like them, I just prefer if they could be skins just make them that


also in this case, you can add them for the next game, just no more in smash4, it has enough clones for now and I would rather see a new character added

not happening. The show will be about 2017 games, no way they stick Smash in the calender somewhere inbetween ARMS and Pokken

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>>379431547
Clown from SS13

>Arms and Pokken Deluxe exsist.

I want it too but I don't think they are going to announce or release it this year so it doesn't cave into those sales.

>>379433846
Not him but if Disney were to get involved with this game in anyway, they are going to shill their mascot over SquEnix shit. Especially since Cloud is already in the game.

>>379431547
Port of the previous game with a couple minor features and character DLC.

>>379433938
A port is more likely to happen right now than an whole new game with brand new mechanics and shit.
>inb4 muh 64 to Melee release times
Melee isn't half the size of Smash 4 is.

Probably not until 2018

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>>379431547

If they don't announce a port at e3 it won't happen in 2018, quit backpedaling.

>Smash Bros Switch introduces a new mechanic that will allow you to switch your character mid-fight w/ assists

>>379431547
>What do you want to see in Smash Bros. Switch?
Sakurai as far away from it as possible.

>>379432769
Nothing from Brawl gameplay wise should ever return

>>379431547
I'll be happy if it was just a port with nothing added. Just want to put my Wii I away, it's wasting an HDMI port on my TV.

>Melee port with online could have happened
>got Brawl instead
>Smash 4 port happening instead of a new smash

Fuck this timeline

I don't think it's going to happen.

ARMS is coming out in a few weeks and Pokken DX in September. That's 2 fighting games. Then, we also have Super Mario Odsssy, which is their big system seller, in winter as well.

I don't think Nintendo would shoot themsleves in the foot and risk cannibalizing their own sales on either Mario or Pokken by also releasing Smash around fall/winter.

>>379434286
holy fuck man, a far more infuriating ditty kong.
>banana peels
>space lube
>final smash is a honk mech

>>379434857
Fuck off, meleefag. You autists will never be happy with anything. Just keep playing your autistic 16-year-old game.

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>BotW removes gamepad features from the WiiU version so it wont be better than the Switch
>Pokken withholds DLC character from the WiiU so it will be marketable on Switch (Didn't work in Japan, where because of arcades it's 60 dollars for one character on Switch)
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe doubles the items, adds another drifting tier, and changes nothing about the courses to accommodate these sweeping changes, completely screwing the games balance
Bets on how they're gonna fuck up Smash Switch? They've proven that they can't just port a WiiU game without some kind of fuckery at this point.

My best guesses are
>Requires a new gamecube adapter that's double the price of the old one
>Removes gamecube support altogether in favor of gamecube joycons
>Mix of 3ds and WiiU stages instead of all of both, losing good stages in the process and keeping things like Pacland
>Failure to retain the entire 3rd part cast

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>>379431547
Take the 3DS version and add proper multiplayer and Wii U stages. That's all I want and need.

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Bring back Wolf.

>>379433998
There's validity in it though, anon.

>3 new Smash amiibo will be released within the 1st year of the Switch
>2 Wii U enhanced ports already confirmed for the platform (1 released, 1 coming soon)

June: ARMS
July: Splatoon
August: Xenoblade?
September: Pokken
October: Mario + Rayman Rabbids?
Nov: Smash?
Dec: Mario?

I have my bets on this

>>379435004
>Requires a new gamecube adapter that's double the price of the old one
>Removes gamecube support altogether in favor of gamecube joycons
Pokken DX supports the Wii U version of the Pokken contoller. Since Smash is also developed by Bamco, it'd make sense to assume the GC controller will also work. Sakurai knows Smash players would riot if they lost the support for GC controllers.

>>379434924
It would be truly glorious. /tg/station stage + space lubing fools through the airlock.

>>379435206
>Sakurai knows
Ah there's another
>Gameplay changes of any kind, be it new characters, stages, or even balance, without Sakurai's involvement

>>379434960
You want to hurt me?

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>>379435180
>August: Xenoblade?

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>>379433341
>sakurai putting in classic sonic instead of a unique sonic character like tails, knuckles, or metal sonic
he would never do that... right?

>>379435340
Wouldn't that be a good thing?

Switch developers have shown to be pretty speedy with providing updates to their games.

The next big Bomberman Update (1.4) is said to be talked about real soon according to Konami

>>379435435
It's coming out this year, I guess switch it with Rayman Rabbids cross over in October

Sakurai has been long done with Smash. If there's a port, there won't be any new fighters.

Looking forward to enjoying E3 from the comfort of my own home and literally anywhere but on /v/. The very second that event begins I'm done with this place for at least a month. No thanks to braindead console war fakeposting and 100's of threads of shitflinging and wojak spamming over "who won?".

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>>379435504
>Wouldn't that be a good thing
>The "I hate sakurai and don't understand that Smash would fall to shit without him" meme.
If Sakurai won't come back to oversee the port, dont fucking touch a single detail about the game.

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>>379435180

>Xenoblade 2
>This year
>Let alone this August

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>>379435582
>It's coming out this year

>>379434559
it's been three years since smash 4
there would be no reason for switch to get a port and get it announced this or next year
that is, if it wasn't for mario kart 8 breaking the pattern that has been going since the fucking super nintendo and getting ported from wii u, signifying nintendo will just take the lazy route and make switch the port machine peppered with some new games

>>379434559
Reminder that all Smash games are announced within 3 years of the last one

>>379435803
made a goof
*for switch not to get a new smash game

still waiting on shadow or waluigi

>>379435669
It wouldn't be so bad if the zombies weren't trying to convince everyone else that a game as mediocre as the new zelda is ABSOLUTELY a ten out of ten absolutely flawless masterpiece that literally sucks the cum out of your fucking balls or 0/10 gives you AIDS enemy of the sonystate. why can't you fucking idiots just let normal people observe unexceptional games in fucking peace.

>>379435761
I think that it's the reason why he partnered with Bamco to work on Smash 4 to be honest.

I remember one article that mentioned how Sakurai got really sick while working on Smash 4 because he had to do overtime hours many days straight.

I believe he also developed arthritis as a result of playtesting the game himself using 2 gamecube controllers at the same time.

>>379431547
I want Ice Climbers to stay dead

>>379434862
Couldn't they just release it in early 2018 then? When the paid online launches?

>>379435867
>Melee - 2001
>Brawl Announced - 2005
Bullshit.

>>379431547
Want to see Master Chief in exchange for letting Retro Studios making a banjo game.

>>379436024
Doesn't mean that Bamco will be worth shit without his oversight. Smash 4 proved the series will be fine with less direct Sakurai handiwork as long as he oversees it. But Smash from literally anybody except a dev as opinionated and uncompromising as Sakurai would be a disaster.

>>379436118
It's possible but I don't think it's gonna happen. I bet it'll be the big winter 2018 title, which means we likely will only get a teaser for it, if anything this e3

>>379436024
Oh, and stop fucking redditposting. It's so blatantly fucking obvious where you're from.

>>379436335
>"If I were to hand over the work to someone else, it would be a full-time, multi-person designated workload." - Sakurai

This is in reference to what he did for Melee, Brawl and Smash 4 workload-wise which was:

>"With the previous Smash Bros. games, I would input all the fighter specs and attack hitboxes, and with the new games I'm doing something very similar."

The writing is on the wall IMO.

>>379436415
>Writing multiple sentences means I'm from reddit
>HURR REDDIT SPACING GET OOOUT!!!

Why don't you leave if you're so personally offended?

>>379435987

This post is exactly the kind of shit I won't have to hear at all next week. You know just say something and then somebody responds about something else entirely that I don't fucking give two shits about but somehow is supposed to be a reply to a post I made. Hooray! Gonna be a good E3 for a change I think. Not great, just good.

>>379436302
Melee released November 21, 2001

Brawl was announced in the first half of May 2005

That's 3 years and 6 months

>>379436554
>The writing is on the wall IMO.
If Sakurai leaves Smash, worthwhile Smashbros ends, even if the series continues. Full stop.

>>379431547
I don't give a shit about this, I want new games. No more ports.

>>379436415

Not having to hear the word reddit even once during all of E3 cause I won't be on /v/. Pure bliss.

>>379431547
>Let's cross our fingers and hope for a rehash
You fags are the worst

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>>379436712
>Not being on /v/ for e3
But yeah, not a redditor

>>379436643
Well I'm not saying he leaves entirely, but maybe he makes a list of those said hitboxes, character moves and the like for Bamco to type in for him, he takes a back seat from directly contributing and is more like Miyamoto and Aonuma.

Just plays Producer role and is there to keep everything in line while also still being around to get business deals with 3rd parties for guest characters.

Last I recall he's working on a new project so I doubt we'll see anything Smash-related from him if he's still on board with future games.

However, I do honestly believe that Nintendo will partner with Bamco to develop Smash again since they did so successfully with Smash 4.

>>379436643
Sakurai Smash is worthwhile?

>>379436554

Literally making ANY post could just as soon mean your "from reddit" to /v/. It's like /v/'s favorite go to shitpost reply.

>Well I don't fucking know something about reddit I guess?

average /v/ post in a nutshell when you cut through all the bullshit and buzzwords that it might be dressed up with. Personally I'm surprised people still respond to that stuff like they're going to make some sort of headway or something.

>>379436898
Triggered meleeautsits dont really get an opinion at this point. You've proven playing melee and whining about not having your ass kissed for it is all you want.

>>379437017
Literally nobody said melee.

>>379437070
They're the only ones retarded enough to love Smash and hate the guy who made it

>>379437141
Yeah, fuck people who hate shitty sequels.

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>>379431547
BOTW Link as an alternate costume or a complete new character. Either of these two would be fine.

>>379437207
There is literally nothing objectively wrong with Smash 4 mechanically. I'm sorry that your personal opinions dont allow you to enjoy the best entry in the series.

>>379437017
Nice assuming he's a melee fanboy just because he called out sakurai on being a shit dev.

>>379437323
Smash 4 doesn't make for a good party game.

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Say it with me.

THE KOOL SHALL ROOL

>>379437324
Sakurai is objectively one of the best minds in the industry today. Right up there with Hideki Kamiya.

>>379437514
Support your claim.

>>379431547
Combination of 3DS and Wii U versions, all features together in one game.

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>>379437398
>The Smash Brothers game with 8 player Smash isn't a good party game
Sure thing man. Sure thing.

>>379437609
8 player smash is an awful party mode though

>>379431547
Come with all DLC, Wii U content, and 3DS content
better graphics
FUCKING WALUIGI COME ON NINTENDO WE'VE WANTED THIS FOR SO FUCKING LONG PLEASE NINTENDO
IDK what else

>>379436712
Putting my standards low this E3, don't think this will be revealed.

>>379437609
It has shit stages, nobody ever dies in a reasonable amount of time, and all of the items are boring. Nobody likes playing 8-player because you can't see anything that's going on.

>>379431547
King K. Krool

>>379437562
>Created an entire new genre of video game that nobody else has been able to recreate with any degree of success
This describes Kamiya and Sakurai both.

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>>379437450
Never ever

Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers

Pokefloats
Heihachi

>>379437842
And he hasn't been able to do anything to evolve it. He got lucky once, then rehashed the same idea 5 times.

>>379438016
He's made a bunch of games between those Smash releases. Kirby Air Ride and Kid Icarus Uprising were similarly unseen concepts that he brought into the world. Kirby Air Rides controls were unlike any racing game, and City Trial was unlike any other multiplayer experience previously or since. Kid Icarus Uprising control scheme was something brand new too and worked fucking amazingly. (Inb4 4 year old parroting of Jim Sterlings terrible opinions)

>>379438257
Woah, 1 game and 2 control schemes in 18 years.

>>379438520
That's significantly more than the average game developer can claim you little shit.

>>379438569
Not really. And other developers try to refine their formula, not just rehash it with some gimmicks every half a decade or so.

>>379438639
(you)

>>379435180
August is MHXX mate

>tfw voted for paper mario at the ballot but people got angry at me because muh clone
He is _not_ a clone. Hammer and jump attacks, partners, star powers etc.

>>379438754
Not an argument.

>>379435180
it's more like
June: ARMS
July: Splatoon
August: Mario Rabbids
September: Pokken
October: Fire Emblem Warriors
Nov: Mario
Dec: Xenoblade, but prob only in Japan

>>379439106
>October: Fire Emblem Warriors

yeesh they couldn't get out a real october game in time then?

Ice Climbers are guaranteed to show up. Literally the only reason they were cut was because of the 3DS' limitations.

>>379439191
Fuck Smash I just want another Ice Climber game

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>>379431547

>What I want
Snake
Isaac
K.Rool
Wolf
Ice Climbers
All 3DS content added

>What I'm expecting
Ice Climbers
Wolf
Inkling+Splatoon stage

>>379438881
None of your tripe as been either so I guess now were even.

>ice climbers
What is the appeal? Those characters are the most obscure shit along with Mach Rider and Doshin the Giant.

>>379439416
Ice Climber was the best game on the nes and only dumb niggers think otherwise

>>379431547
Good gameplay.

>>379439385
Of course it has. Sakurai is a bitter fuck who hates when people like his games, so he does his best to alienate them

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What new S/M Pokemon do you think they're cooking up for this?

Also, nearly just 5 days until we possibly have an answer to all this. Time goes way too fucking fast

>>379432751
I'd be fine with Inklings, i'm just more surprised Nintendo didn't put em in at launch to advertise em.

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>>379438257
>>379438569
Please stop shilling, it's disgusting.

>Returning

Ice Climbers
Snake
Wolf

>New
Spring Man
Inkling
Mega Man X
Shovel Knight
Chrono

>>379439668
>What new S/M Pokemon do you think they're cooking up for this?

The owl is the only good option. It's the only way Smash is gonna get an actual avian. I fucking hate pokemon and I want that bird in

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Batman
>smash bros has megaman
>megaman is in marvel vs capcom
>marvel has had a few dc crossovers
>batman is dc
Therefore, Batman is Nintenndo related

>>379439668
Decidueye is pretty much the Greninja of S/M (to the point where it's now in Pokken), so expect that over anything else.

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ARMS and Pokemon share the same fate to me, where I like the supporting or niche characters more than the main or popular ones respectively

id take Helix and Mechanica over Spring Man, or some semi-random shit like Bewear/Staraptor/Octillery/Sableye over recently popular pokemon like Incineroar or Lycanroc

>>379439668
In typical Sakurai fashion: Incineroar

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What I'd like:
>Snake
>Wolf
>Squirtle and Ivysaur
>more Wario Land music and a stage
>a Delta mode for stages that turns everything into Battlefield, and For Glory including these stages
>an actual classic and all-star mode that isn't an 8-player clusterfuck
>Smash Run with online multiplayer

What I'm expecting:
>a straight-up port of Smash WiiU with 3DS stages
>nothing else

>>379440167
How many crossover games exist that don't choose the main characters of a franchise for a representative?

>>379437323
I'm sorry about your delusion.

>Sm64sh good
>Melee good
>Brawl shit
>Sm4sh shit
>Sm5sh ????
History shows it'll 100% most likely be shit.

>>379440375
If Pokken can get some new content despite people expecting nothing new for the Switch port, what about Smash?

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>>379431547
Will there ever be a new Zelda rep for Smash? We haven't had a new one since Brawl.

>>379440375
>>a straight-up port of Smash WiiU with 3DS stages
>>nothing else
This is less likely than your wishes considering the differences in the games that have been ported already.

>>379435771

>net worth of -$600,000

>>379440450
>good
>good
>shit
>shit
So the next too would be the same, maybe worse than shit, or maybe bsck to good or just mediocre.

>>379440557
>>379440490
If I don't get excited, I won't be disappointed.

That's what Brawl certainly taught me.

>>379440450
>>Sm5sh ????
>not Sma5h
You had one fucking job you mongoloid.

Also
>64
>good

they should just port Project M

>>379440490
Those characters were already out in arcade way before the port was announced, who the fuck was thinking that pokken wouldn't get those characters?

>>379440659
>Those characters were already out in arcade way before the port was announced, who the fuck was thinking that pokken wouldn't get those characters?

Not that guy, but Decidueye wasn't playable in the Arcade version at all. It's only going to be playable in the Switch version.

>>379440659
I wasn't talking about the arcade characters, I was talking about Decidueye.

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>>379440389

its an admittedly tiny ass list, but

>Zero and Tron Bonne over X and Volnutt respectively in MvC3
>Haggar over Cody in MvC3
>Akuma in Tekken 7
>Morrigan eclipsing Demitri in basically every crossover regarding Darkstalkers

>>379438880
nowadays, people are salty the fact he'll be more based on his latest illiteration

especially when Tanabe is on board in every Smash since Brawl (as Producer)

>>379440907
>>379440927
And that's only 1 character, what's going to happen to a smash port when sakurai isn't even overseeing it? That anon is right for not expecting much, especially when it comes to new characters.

>>379438880
he's not a clone, but i surely wouldn't bother with another Mario while other unique and doable choices exist for Super Mario

>>379440939
To be fair Zero did have a quadrilogy to himself.

>>379431547
Sm4sh is, in my opinion, the purest form of the smash brothers formula.
Which goes to show you that Smash Brothers was never good

for a brand-new game:
>bring back all removed characters, declone characters that need it like ganondorf, dr mario, etc
>add at least one new character from each franchise
>keep gameplay as it is in sm4sh for the most part, make some improvements here and there to balance both characters and items
>longer and better subspace emissary type story mode that doesn't shit on Mario like brawl's did
>more full remixes of music and greater variety of stages
>keep smash wii u method of unlocking characters, where most are there from the start but you don't need to wait 400 hours to unlock one of the others
>add geno and give him geno whirl as his final smash so we can finally have a move that deals 999% damage
>make smash balls appear from the center of the stage after a set amount of time, they don't start moving until someone hits them
>keep ridley unplayable, or better yet have his only playable appearance be as NES ridley and he's nothing more than a shitty Yoshi clone
>bring back brawl's random tripping as a special mode just to piss meleefags off

>>379438757
In Japan, you duckwot

>>379437207
bet you five bucks purists will come out of the woodwork if another sharp Smash game was ever done

actually, fuck that, Wavedash Games will be the judge of that.

>>379441260
That we know of.

bayo again

>>379441260
Switch isn't region locked you retard.

>>379432769

>Brawl Style gameplay

Fucking why? SSB4 is basically that but better.

Also, I agree with the other things but adding and balancing the game WHILE adding Melee and 64 gameplay is insane.

Just buff everyone the fuck up, return Jigglypuff's rest, if it can kill UNTIL 75% percent on average and also have HIGH risk while Ryu can connect an utilt to shoryuken and kill at that same percentage or even less with VERY little risk, I don't see why not.

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>>379431547
>ICs
>Wolf
>Decidueye
>newcomer
>Snake if possible, but I'm not holding my breath
>skillkeeper/matchmaking ranked FG
>better online in general
>fixed Lylat
>new stages
>option to remove bosses and/or hazards
> some 3DS + WiiU exclusive stages
>Fourside, Pkmn Stadium, New Pork, etc.
>removal of Smash Tour
>fixed Smash Run and/or new good mode like a makeshift adventure mode
>customize random character for your name, a la random stage select

what gameplay would smash 5 need to have to unite the sm4sh and melee communities

>>379442034
I don't think anything can drag meleefags away from melee.

>>379442034
There's nothing they can do. The melee community have pulled an SMT4 and sealed themselves in a stink firmament

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every thread

>>379442034
If Project M couldn't do it, it's pointless to even try. Melee is too big to be replaced, just let it stagnate on it's own.

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>>379431547
postan for 20th time

>>379431547
BotW Link
Sidon
Incineroar or Mimikyu
Simon Belmont

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>>379442657
Project M was just a fan mod, anon. Of course it was never going to fully replace Melee.

If Brawl already played like Project M right out of the box, Melee would of died forever ago.

>>379442034
Everyone was fine with Melee'a gameplay when it was the latest Smash game, but most people see Smash as that, just Smash, the same thing but the latest is better because more characters.

Though at this point I don't believe the Melee community will ever move on to the next Smash Bros if it gets the exact same Melee engine unless at least the top 8 characters are left intact.

>>379442665
>Hades
I'm still genuinely surprised he wasn't playable when I saw the beginning part of Bayonetta's reveal trailer.

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>>379431547
Bring back Luigi's Negative Zone

>>379442665
wait Sin and Punishment is getting another game?

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>>379432673
>Shitty Smash Tour removed
I love smash tour though

>>379443219
Or better yet just give everyone two Final Smashes like Ryu.

>>379443398
Fuck off Sakurai.

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>>379443219

>>379442034
When booting up the game and at the start of every match there's an unnoticeable flash on the screen that completely erases any memory of previous games of the series.

>>379443398
well many more people enjoyed the former, so seems like you're gonna stick with Smash 4 if it happens
anyways Crazy Orders was pretty alright

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>>379431547
>What do you want to see in Smash Bros. Switch?

A new fucking game not just a port of the shitty Wii U version. I'm not going to buy a Switch if they just keep porting Wii U games.

>>379442034
if SD Remix and PM couldn't, i doubt Smash 5 will.

>inb4 Sm4sh purists becomes a thing like Meleefags

>>379443776
Brawlfags would actually still exist if Wi-Fi was still available for the Wii or retooled on the Switch VC.

>>379442665
>Ribbon Girl and not Springman
That's not how this works.

>>379443776
>if SD Remix and PM couldn't, i doubt Smash 5 will.

Maybe because those weren't official retail games.

Less fucking Fire Emblem characters and obsolete Pokémon like Lucario. Make them DLC if you want but don't have them just taking up space in the main game.

>>379444127
yeah, if only that was the major complaint and nitpicking for either of those mods.

>>379444216
Lucario is still one of the most popular pokemon in the franchise. It's far from obsolete.

>>379442665
>Captain Toad
My brother of african american descent

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will pic related ever be wrong for The Legend of Zelda in Smash?

Anyone else hope they tweak the mechanics a little bit? Like making rolling less of an effective strategy and increasing hit stun

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>>379431547
Wolf needs to come back.

>>379436091
Duck Hunt was far more deserving of the retro spot and should've been there since Melee

>>379444321
I question why the fuck why though. Was it because of Sean Schemmel?
>>379444127
>>379444248
Normies is why Melee is hated on and Smash 4 is loved. Normies care about the latest thing Sack of Rice has done for Smash. If PM was Brawl, there wouldn't have been a divide at all.

>>379442034
>jump momentum
>directional airdodge with momentum transfer to landing
>some form of landing lag reduction
>varieties of cancels on moves like jump-cancels, ledge cancels, edge cancels
>quick frame data on attacks and movement
>complex and numerous hitbubbles on moves that create a vast diversity of scenarios and uses for each move based on percentages, timing, and placement of attack
>lightshielding
>reflective powershielding with tight windows
>hitstun and knockback scaling that allows a huge plethora of combo potential creating the illusion of the "custom combo" because so many things can lead into so many things and can even be expanded based on DI reads and mix-ups

That would get a base level to make it actually like a lazy sequel to Melee rather than a downgrade from Melee and 64. In order to make it actually a good sequel though it should build on its predecessor by adding even more gameplay options and mechanics since that's what sequels are supposed to do, not regress past the original in terms of gameplay.

For example they could experiment with adding:
>aerial tilts and smashes
>charged aerials and possibly even charged throws
>Special + Normal combo attacks where you hit both buttons at once for a new attack type
>reduced shield damage based on whether you've moved your shield DI high or low to respond to high or low attacks

>>379444852
>Melee is hated on and Smash 4 is loved

wut

Melee buries Smash 4 in viewership at every single event. The only time Smash 4 ever outdid Melee in viewership was Big House 5 when people thought ZeRo was finally going to lose and it was another Hbox/Armada "time to stop watching Melee" grand finals.

>>379444840
at the time, there wasn't any concrete creativity for Duck Hunt Duo to be a thing in Melee. While he wasn't in the elimination process, it's hence why IC was chosen over the other NES characters Sakurai was deciding for the Melee roster.

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>>379444636
>and increasing hit stun

A lot of people don't seem to realize this, but the actual hitstun multiplier has pretty much been the same as it's always been since Melee.

It's just that in Brawl, you could literally airdodge out of histun and tumble, completely eliminating any combo possibilities. Smash 4 got rid of the former but retained the latter, which is a big reason to why Smash 4 has more combos than Brawl but less than Melee. Also, the frame data for for the characters is generally a lot slower across the board and attacks also cause much more knockback than in previous games.

So really, hitstun isn't the problem here, it's just the way the game and characters are currently designed and balanced.

>>379433938
>>379443667
THIS
I don't expect a whole new Smash to release this early though. Maybe a Melee virtual console or a Melee port with online in the next year or so but after then I'll expect an actual new game and no more shitty ports.

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>>379445105
>Melee buries Smash 4 in viewership at every single event.
>Steam monsters
>accounting for normies
don't make me post the #OneUnit image again

>>379432806
Does anyone actually like wolf or do they only want him back because he was taken away

>>379445215
And normies don't hate Melee.

Sm4sh gets shit on by literally everyone other than Sm4sh players. They got bullied so hard D1 the Destruction Nigger had to make a plea to stop making fun of tr4shfags.

>>379444321
>implying
The only reason he's still relevant is because GF takes every opportunity to push his existence.

>>379444321
Yeah I'd be a pretty popular Pokemon too if Gamefreak plastered me fucking everywhere and gave me my own movies and anime episodes and special appearances in video games.

>>379445321
>And normies don't hate Melee.
Steam monsters are not normies. When will it get into your dense head?

>>379434397
Sora IS a disney character. His image and all rights to him belong to them.

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>>379445298
I loved playing as that fucker. I like Mac way more but I genuinely miss how different he felt from the other space animals.

>>379443398
LITERALLY the only one I've ever seen that enjoys that mode. I've seen nothing but hate since it was revealed/it came out

-Crash Bandicoot
-Agumon
-Either Bomberman or Jack Frost
-A couple older characters

That's who's getting in Switch with Inkling and someone from ARMS as the stars of 5.

>>379444624
>BoTW Link
>Robin mechanics
>sword breaks after dealing out 100% damage
>shield does not weaken and restore, instead shielding is a set health of 100% per stock before breaking and no longer being available
>can only fire ten arrows per stock before bow breaks and is no longer available
>bombs now remote bombs
>grab now Magnesis instead of hookshot
>special attack Ice Block spawn to cut off recoveries
>Bayonetta style counter attack with Stasis

Oh boy.

>>379445443
>normies don't hate Melee.
>Steam monsters are not normies

These two statements are 100% independent of one another. Have you taken a dick so far up your ass it's in your brain now and making you this stupid?

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>>379431547

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>>379445671
>or Jack Frost
>when they can pull the same shit with Cloud for any messiahs in mainline SMT
who's up for these nigga in Smash Bros?

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>>379445541
Ding Dong that was my point, that's why I said they'd add Mickey fucking Mouse over him. Why would they care about this game and some fans asking for a character they only own by rights instead of getting their hands on some extra cash using their main IP? They already have him in his own games, let alone a big supporting role IN KH in the first place.

>>379445898
Literally any of them would make me cream my pants

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>>379431547
YFW they reveal the game No new characters added.

>>379443219
DUDE. WEED. LMAO

>>379445898

Problem is that the game Cloud was from is the, or at least one of the, fucking Citizen Kane of vidya. I mean people who don't play RPGS could still easily recognize Cloud.

Meanwhile no SMT games have ever been as groundbreaking or iconic, with the only real choices being either Jack or maybe Yu Narukami/the dude from P5.

>>379445768
>These two statements are 100% independent of one another.
keep telling that to yourself
>Have you taken a dick so far up your ass it's in your brain now and making you this stupid?
nah nah, i'm should be asking you that.

really now, taking account of viewership of shitposting faggots is like taking retarded petitions in a serious manner.

>>379446692
>keep telling that to yourself
I was telling you that.

>I know you are but what am I
epin

>>379432857
I get your point, but keep in mind that Awakening and Kid Icarus Uprising released close to each other, and that influenced Sakurai to add Robin. That means Rabbids have a nonzero chance of getting in, which is disgusting.

Also, this is irrelevant but I'd dig Reimu getting in.

>>379442034
Nothing
Sm4shfags think Melee is too hard and Meleefags will not accept anything that isn't exactly Melee
There's no compromise here

>>379446450
you can be a guest character and be part of a series as "groundbreaking" as Bayonetta for SEGA's case, that wouldn't stop a MegaTen character from happening in Smash either.

>>379442665
I'd fucking kill for this, you don't even know.

Saki or Isa Jo not being playable in Smash is a fucking travesty considering that Sakurai directly ripped off S&P for Uprising.

>>379447598

Wasn't Bayo only picked due to polls?

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>your faces when this'll turn out to be a ported version of Smash WiiU with all the DLC on the cartridge

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>>379431547
REMOVE ZSS.
I'M TIRED OF FIGHTING AND LOSING TO HER EVERY MATCH IN FOR GLORY.
SHE'S CANCER.

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>>379440939
>Morrigan eclipsing Demitri in basically every crossover regarding Darkstalkers
>The only time this isn't true is in PxZ

>>379447686
yeah, but a ballot character would still go through the same process like any guest or Nintendo consideration that was chosen for Smash.

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Ridley

>>379432751
I could only see Inklings if this is Smash 5. If this is a port of Smash 4 I'm pretty sure we'll just get Smash 4 for Wii U + the 3DS stages.

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>>379431547
Caring about a kids party game

>>379447863
if transformations returns, Samus would finally be good again

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>>379447686
>>379448002
>he still thinks the ballot was a real thing

>>379448168
>it's 2017 and Kuckfags are still wearing the tinfoil hats

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>>379442665
>no Isabelle
>no KK Slider
>no Geno (as in NOT a Mii Gunner skin)
>no Jibanyan

>>379431547
Why would anyone care about this when Smash4 is very easy to mod and has a near limitless stream of high quality fanmade content? It's had nonstop free DLC for over a year now.

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>>379448297
>it's 20NX and Ridfucks still think they ever had a chance of "voting" their favourite "character" into "Smash Bros"

More fire emblem

>>379445298
>>379445298
i love heavy hard hitting characters, and fox hasnt been good since melee

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>>379447670
>Uprising steals from both Star Fox and S&P
>its better than any entry in either franchise
>we'll never get a sequel
Fucking sucks, man.

>>379432301
>>379432087
They aren't going to add new characters you mongs, the team in charge of all that stuff was dissolved over 2 years ago. I would be shocked if they had any balance changes either, the code monkeys that would do that stuff were partially Namco employees + Sakurai, they've all moved on.

It's going to have all DLC, and maybe, MAYBE, new content that doesn't affect game balance or any of the actual gameplay. Like a new mode, more trophies, or whatever.

And unless it is a new mode or more 'stuff', then gamebanana mods can already add anything you could want

>>379431547

A Smash Bros game that feels good to play and is actually fun.

>>379446230
this will be a 95% chance of what actually happens

>>379448379
Cause that fanmade content is almost exclusively ass.

Isaac

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>>379448564
>it's the Switch-era and indieningens still believe they own a shot in the next roster

>>379448753
So you have personally inspected every mod and deemed every single individual mod 'ass'? Even seamless model imports, harmless and tasteful recolors, improvements to shitty stages, changing music/intro/title screen, CSS

All of that, you have surveyed and deemed 'exclusively ass'

>>379448379
because nobody wanna spend over 2 years or so on doing a incomplete or buggy PSA of some character that is low prior to be chosen in official games.

t. dude who use to mess with a Geno, Naruto, and the popular Shadow mod in BrawlEX

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>>379448985
>it's Nintendomination and Sonybros still think that if Nintendo runs another fake ballot they can get their favourite anime swordsman into Smash Brothers

>>379448992
Yes.

[Spoiler]Ridley is in[/Spoiler]

>>379449062
I... what? I don't even know what you are trying to say here. I have an amazing Geno skin over MM and like ten different sonic characters over sonic himself. all of them look great and work fine.

it's not the Brawl days anymore. There are new mods, some of near-official quality, every week pretty much. Been that way this entire past year especially.

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rebuild the soundtrack. Stick to a small team like HALs composers for Melee

Pick songs that energize and make people want to fight to. Think Melee's Corneria and Fire Emblem, or a lot of the songs on Halberd from Brawl

I'm thinking stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixRUMwm43cA&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsSaPbd4ojU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Sjr4e9YGo

>>379448664
>its better than any entry in either franchise
I wouldn't go that far. In terms of pure rail shooter gameplay, S&P2 was way better than Uprising. But I did play Uprising more due to its multi though. God, that multi was so fucking good.

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>>379449432
>Geno skin over MM

Everytime I see a clip where someone slaps a character skin over another character, I feel like I get a little closer to understanding why Sakurai split Lucina/DP from Marth/Pit. I'm not saying it was a smart move, but I get the logic.

>>379431547
- Merge the stages and modes from Wii U and 3DS
- Bring back more cut characters/past stages
- Throw in 2-3 new characters/stages

>>379449883
it's not like their movesets and animations wouldn't be similar anyway, geno has gun arms just like MM and shoots a charged beam too.

it's like complaining that goku over ryu isn't perfect because goku doesnt do uppercuts or something. it's not 1:1, oh well. better than the fucking Mii outfits.

Like I have Lloyd over Pit, oh no Lloyd doesn't use a bow or have wings, my brain is capable of getting over that. it extended the life of smash4 casually for me by an entire year and it's fun to show off my modpack at gatherings

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>>379449432
>I... what? I don't even know what you are trying to say here
because you're a peasant from BrawlVault who thinks normies would take MUGEN amateur-quality over something that was processed and done by modelers and animators who worked on Smash or Project M.

hell, a single autist would come dropping down from the sky and point out all the flaws of the mod compare to something from PM or Smash 4.

also, someone like you tried (pic related) to convince the masses to stick to Brawl mods or wait for Smash 4 to get PSA mods working. HE was mocked and laughed off, not seen again.

>>379431547
It's only 30 minutes long, bro. Don't get your hopes up.

I honestly think if they were to put Waluigi in Smash's port, they should do it like this. This way they can show all of the POSSIBLE new characters arriving

>A shot of Waluigi walking down the street with style
>There's a building with a sign saying "Super Smash Bros auditions"
>He sees it and smiles with confidence that he will finally be accepted
>He walks to the door and then is trampled by King K. Rool running out of the door crying because he barely found out that he was King K Kucked to the Mii Costumes
>Waluigi gets up and is hurt, but he brushes it off
>As he opens the door, he is then trampled over Bandana Dee and his Waddle Dee friends who are celebrating over him being accepted as a new character
>Waluigi is hurt even more, but tries to brush it off
>He gets up, but then is ran over by Wolf's Landmaster
>Waluigi gets up one more time and is limping to the door again
>He gets blown up by Snake and Bomberman's explosives. They've been accepted
>Waluigi barely reaches to the door and finally opens it only to be greeted by the whole Smash roster finally leaving.
>They hand him a note saying that he's finally been accepted, but he's too fucked up to jump for joy, let alone smile. He only lets out a simple and tired "yay"
>They cut to his moveset and stuff
>After they finish introducing his moves they cut back to Waluigi
>He's still on the floor beaten bad

>>379450357
I have no idea what you are going on about, I have never been to Brawlvault and I've never tried to make that retarded argument in your pic

mods are free, i was only saying there is no point to smash switch since 3DS already has a smash port for mobile play and the only thing a port could advertise is dumping all the shitty overpriced DLC and mii fighter shit onto the base game and selling it to you again for $60

Brawl modding was a pain in the ass too, Smash4 modding is so simple a retard can do it, and the modding community even pre-names and pre-labels all the files and folders for you now.

>>379450792
well it's not like there's ever gonna be anything as big as project m for smash 4, especially after what happened to pm. naturally people don't give a shit about smash 4 mods

>>379451096
>well it's not like there's ever gonna be anything as big as project m for smash 4
You can literally make your own fucking Project M now, I seriously don't get why you are being so down on the modding community for sm4sh when they've put out so much good content already and upload more near-daily.

>>379450783

Don't bully Waluigi..

>>379451096
in fact a ton of the PM alts are already added to smash4 like Light Suit Samus, so what the fuck are you even complaining about

if there's something from PM that hasn't made the jump to smash4, stop bitching and import it yourself.

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>>379450783

What did Sakurai mean by this?

>>379446230
Literally why would you expect new content and not just a DX edition with all DLC? The teams that made Smash4 have long since moved on.

>>379431547

>smash switch announced
>/v/keends return
>spooky and his club of namefags return

Please no, let it stay dead.

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>>379450279
people, not even the 10+ million people who bought the Smash 4 games, aren't going to play some cheapo costume hack of Wolf over Fox or Spring Man over Little Mac in some random mod for Smash 4 and stick with it over wanting the real deal.

they wouldn't even take the "it's better than nothing" excuse since they'll act like Ganondorf fanboys who are still angry about his current moveset in Smash since Melee.

despite that Project Ganondorf 2.0 is a thing, this still knocks down the whole shit about preferring a reused model over an official character in the game. they literally want EVERYTHING, not hunkered down as some sort of variant of an existing character like if they were a clone character.

also, Goku is in Crusade, Brawl hacks, various builds of PM, Flash 2 Beta, etc. and they would still prefer the feel of Sakurai doing the impossible for once. (and i would totally chant for that than some costume alt. for Ryu in Smash 4)

>>379453208
>aren't going to play some cheapo costume hack of Wolf over Fox or Spring Man over Little Mac in some random mod for Smash 4 and stick with it over wanting the real deal.
The real deal that is never going to exist. If they ever make a Smash5 i will be well past the age where I'd even care about smash anymore

>>379436964
/v/ is full of autistic underages, stop trying so hard

>>379451232
>>379451382

project m was something that took years and years of planning/balancing/designing and massive support from the community. there won't ever be anything on that level ever again for smash 4. there will always be mods that claim to be the next project m or whatever but they'll never go anywhere, because they're nowhere near the professionalism of project m

>>379454051
Why are you just saying shit that is wrong and stupid lol

there are animation mods. there are skins galore. there are UI mods. there are stage mods of all sorts. there are full model imports. it's FAR easier to make a modpack in smash4 than brawl. of course it took years to make a good modpack, it was fucking Brawl, do you realize how far society has come since those days, even just technologically?

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>>379431547
>What do want to see
Magento ledges removed
Rage removed
Recoveries nerfed
Buffs for the characters that have been shitty since the game came out
Stages from the 3DS Version
Icies and Snake

>>379453474
>The real deal that is never going to exist.
what makes you say that? you work at Nintendo?

>>379440140
Greninja wasn't in Pokken, though.

>>379455104
I'm assuming most of the people in this thread are in early to mid twenties; Smash 5, besides being incredibly unlikely to ever exist for a variety of reasons, would be several years down the line at least if it did, and personally I don't want to still be giving a shit about smash when i'm past 30

>>379455104
also i can say with 100% guaranteed certainty that a skin of wolf over fox is going to be more satisfying than waiting several years for a slim chance he might reappear in the next game. If such a thing had even the remotest chance of happening.

unless people who consider themselves adults in any capacity are excited for smash roster cancer to flood this board yet again (Japan Time was fun-- smash4 fake leaks and constant terrible arguments over shovel knight and k.rool were not)

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Arle Nadja!

Side B = Ice storm (ice lock duration and damage based on how much Down B is charged)
Down B = Diacute (makes next attack stronger, similar to Cloud's Limit Gauge but unaffected by damage taken) Preferably she would stutter "Di-di-diacuto!" just like in the old Madou Monogatari games
Up B = Fire (similar to Fox)
Neutral B = Jugem (energy ball with power based on how much diacute is charged) Can be deflected/absorbed though.

>>379455587
who

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>ctrl+f ashley
>0 results

>>379455642
Puyo Puyo character

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>>379456205
>Domon-kun isn't here yet

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>>379456205
Domon was finally given death.

>>379455587
Final smash: Bayoen!!!

>>379450783
>Waluigi Limps into Action!

Dammnit I laughed really hard at this. I'm having flashbacks to the Mario Power Tennis intro and I miss how fun it was.

>wanting a port instead of a new Smash game.

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reminder that K. Rool is literally a Bowser clone

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>>379456205

>>379431547
I want Smash on the Switch, but I also don't want the Switch to be a port machine. How am I supposed to feel?

>>379457679
Name one (1) time he does any of these moves in DKC.

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Give me Ashley or give me death!!!!!!

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>>379432301
Nintendo. Has changed.

>>379432673
people still want king k rool

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>>379431547
>What do you want to see in Smash Bros
FIX. THE. FUCKING. NETCODE.

>>379457860
it doesn't matter if any of the moves originate from the games. Sakurai will just fit K. Rool model to the base of Bowser's just like he did with Ganondorf and Captain Falcon.

>>379432806
WEREWOLVES OF LONDON

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>>379431547
>What do you want to see in Smash Bros. Switch?

>all DLC characters included
>3DS stages ported
>Smash Tour replaced by Smash Run, Smash Run can also be customised (time limit, what event is at the end, etc.)
>A proper Break the Targets mode
>Classic Mode changed so it operates like the 3DS version, as well as only having 4 characters at once during fights (Fighting Mii Team can be an exception)
>better online netcode
>all custom moves unlocked from the start
>able to play tourney-legal stages online
>Include the option to use custom moves online
>Allow Gamecube controllers to be compatible via the Wii U Adapter
>More character balancing, mostly just buffs for the lower tiers
>a few new stages
>a few new characters

That should do it.

>>379431547
It will be a port of the Wii U version with Deluxe tacked on to the name and maybe 2 new characters if we're lucky. Please don't get your hopes up for anything else. The trend is obvious by now.

>>379442034
JUMP
MOMENTUM

I am fucking BAFFLED Sakurai removed it with Brawl. Sakurai is a developer that's usually spot-on with the details yet he completely shit the bed by removing this key factor. Fix it.

>>379432806
>>379459253
Star Wolves of... Lylat?

I'm still happy K. Rool and Ridley haven't made it in the game because the fanbase trying to shit them into the game and having their hopes ruined every time is so palpably satisfying.
They're shit characters. Get over it. Find better characters to root for.

>>379455339
This guy gets it.

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I want them to announce no new characters at all, only returning ones at most.

Because fuck you, that's why.

>>379459919
You seem to be implying that shit characters can't or don't get into Smash.

Isn't it funny how every character who becomes a popular pick eventually becomes hated just for being wanted by a lot of people?

>>379459143
>Ganondorf
Time restraints
>Captain Falcon
Literally no moveset to speak of.
Clones are only clones due to time restraints. You'd be better off baiting by saying we'd get 5 more FE characters before K.Rool get's added as a Stage Hazard.

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>>379459919
>They're shit characters
>Over all of the moeEmblem characters
this is why I'm glad you people exist. So I can call you a piece of shit for being a contrarian piece of shit.

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>>379431547

>>379444984
this desu

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if snake doesn't join, then Sami could take his moveset

>>379449449

This is something that isn't touched on often, but I very much agree. Smash 4 had so much music, and not all of it fit, but it was crammed in there anyway.

I think each stage could do with just 4 songs: 2 new remixes, and then 2 rips/old remixes.

As for stages themselves, they need to go back to single-gimmick, smaller stages. Wily's Castle would've been perfect with the random moving platforms. Yellow Devil made it a mess. Mushroom Kingdom U was four stages in one, with an absurd number of random gimmicks. If they just had one configuration nobody would've said boo. Palutena's Temple and Great Cave Offensive are just painful.