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Now that Arms is confirmed to be a massive failure, what else

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Now that Arms is confirmed to be a massive failure, what else do I have to look forward to?
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Wait what happened with arms i thought that was your guy's favorite thing ever?
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>>379419480
>confirmed to be a massive failure
Nice falseflag
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>>379419743
Sitting at a 78 on Metacritic.
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>We live in an era were a 7/10 is considered horrible
We need another videogame crisis
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>>379419480
>imjages
Sony ponies once again confirmed subhuman, the lessons of /vint/ must not be forgotten!
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>>379419992
It's been like that forever, Christ.

If you get a 70 on a test you barely squeaked by.
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>>379419743
Based easy allies declared that it's shit.
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>>379419480
As an actual Nintendofag, caring about reviewer scores is beyond retarded.
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>>379419992
Video games don't receive lower than 7/10 unless they're literally broken
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The testpunch was pretty boring but the testfire for Spla2oon was fantastic so I'm definitely hyped for that.
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>>379420103
Unless its a good rating, then you plaster it everywhere right?
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>>379420103
97 though, right? Best game ever?
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>>379420083
You mean a 60. A 70 or a 7/10 really isn't that bad.
Then again, I'm going by MAL ratings and not class scores.
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>>379420185
>>379420274
delete
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>>379419743
Agreed. I don't know why so many people care about BotW's scores. Reviews don't matter after all.
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>>379420083
>If you get a 70 on a test you barely squeaked by

Maybe if you are studying some shit liberal arts major.
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>around same score as street figher v despite actually having an acceptable amount of content and being a new ip from nintendo
really makes u think...
maybe nintendo really should stick to mario and zelda to please these faggy critics
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Splatoon 2 and its free online play for the rest of the year, Sonic Mania, Super Mario Odyssey

Which makes for a fairly baller second half of the year, and we're not even at E3, yet.
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>>379419992
Not even a really a 7/10. Closer to an 8/10, with most reviews giving it 8/10, if not for a stray 5/10 from Videogamer dragging it down. Outside of that it's reviews almost mirror those of Splatoon perfectly
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second best game on the platform
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>>379419480
>old sonyger shill thread died
>within 10 minutes a new one is up
hmm
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>>379420294
I think comparing them to class scores is honestly perfectly sensible. Who would want to spend $60 on anything less than a 7/10?

>>379420428
What kind of major do you go into where you can get half the shit wrong and still pass?
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>>379419480
wiiu ports
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>>379420294
80 is average when grades matter
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>>379420431
>lots of content but poor core gameplay
>no content but great core gameplay

I believe they deserve the same score.
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The game isn't even out yet and your calling it a failure
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>>379419480
I had a bad feeling about it as soon as I started playing the Testpunch. A good soundtrack can't make up for terrible controls and shallow gameplay.
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>>379419992
A 7/10 is considered mediocre in vidya.
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>>379419992
blame publishers
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>>379420610
>poor core gameplay
what about it is poor? it seems really polished. unique and also really fun, i dont know what the issue is.
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>>379419992
>If it's 9 or 10, it's paid reviews
>If its 8 and below, its a massive failure
What can Nintendo realistically do to win with these people?
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>>379419992
>Brag about BoTW scores and deem all games under 90 metacritic score a failure
>Surprised when Arms gets ravaged for getting 78

From what I played in the betas 78 seems pretty just.
The alternate modes are messy and the price seems steep for what it is.
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I'm so glad Arms is getting bad reviews. We don't need waggle games in 2017. I really though we had moved past that.
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https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

http://opencritic.com/game/4218/arms

Guys what happened? ARMS was supposed to be a flop!!!
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>>379419992
If reviewers didn't give out 8/10s like candy, it wouldn't be. 8/10 is like the participation trophy of video games. Lower than that means you fucked up somewhere.
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>>379419480
it isint even out yet. How can you call it a fail? almost all reviews of it are around an 8/10 witch is pretty good
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>>379420823
>tfw to smart to open the options menu
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>>379420763
Be sony
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>>379420847
;)
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>>379420847
Are you implying sales means quality?
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>>379420847
Switch owners have nothing else to buy.
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It's time to post dem 10/10 reviews bros.
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>>379419992
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>>379420763
Go back in time and don't pressure reviewers to give above-average scores so frequently that everyone realizes 70 means average instead
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>>379420921
http://opencritic.com/game/4218/arms
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shits gonna sell 2 million easy, I'm sorry.
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>>379420912
The developers built the game on motion controls and they're required for advanced maneuvers
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Is the game even out yet?
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Man, /v/ really, really wants this game to fail. I played the testpunch and it was good fun. I don't understand why you'd go out of your way to hate on such an innocent game.
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It's over
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>>379420847
It is literally the only game the Switch has gotten in months. Just shows how starved Switch owners are, to rush out to buy a mediocre game.
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>>379420847
>number 1 is a PS4 game
n-noooo
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>>379421069
Its because you fags are going around shitposting
>BASED NINTENDO SAVING FIGHTING GAMES
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>>379421031
Why would someone go on the internet and tell lies
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>>379419480
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>>379420925
>>379420921
>>379420919
You tell him, bros! We can't let Dorktendo get another successful franchise!
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>>379419992
>Anything below BOTW score is now trash
>fast forward to ARMS release
>g-guys why are you being mean a 7 is a good score
YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW
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>>379420083
Ratings and grades are completely different lmao

There's no point to having such a massive scale out of ten if you're going to dedicate only 15-20% of it to being good.
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>>379421069
It's looked mediocre since the start, yet developed an obnoxious Overwatch-tier fanbase despite not even having a taste of gameplay to go on at the time.
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>>379421115
>Falling for obvious falseflags
Hell you were probably the one doing it
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>>379421115
>B-BECAUSE H-HE SAID-
How old are you?
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>>379419480
>Massive failure
>Has a passable score

I knew what I was expecting. Anyone who thought it was gonna be as deep as Smash Bros much less promise anything more than a couple hours of play was expecting literal space travel from a simple trip to the planetarium
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>>379421234
>sonyfags act autistic
>get called autistic

>PCfags act autistic
>get called autistic

>Nintendofags act autistic
>ITS JUST A FALSEFLAG BRO
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>>379421205
No, it makes perfect sense. Video games are expensive. I certainly don't want to spend full price on a product that's getting stuff wrong half the time. A 5/10 is bad in that case, unless the release is heavily discounted.

Just like with a test, you're doing something wrong if you don't know most of the material.
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>Horizon Zero Dawn only has an 89 on Metacritic! Botw has 97 u mad
>What do you mean 78 is a bad score for Arms? That's almost an 80
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>>379421412
How are you enjoying your first day on /v/
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>>379421020
>all these Nintendo fansites
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>>379421374
>Pretend to act like a Nintendofag
>Call yourself autistic
Fixed
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>>379421374
fucking THIS
>shitposters called HZD the "Zelda killer"
>FUCKING SONYFAGS

>shitposters called ARMS the "savior of fighting games"
>i-its just falseflagging
How convenient is that the Nintendo fanbase has never do something bad huh? Every other fanbase is cancer except Nintendo's
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>>379421524
>there are no cancerous fags in the Nintendo fanbase
Kill yourself
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>>379420763
But what about 8.01-8.99?
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>>379421393
That makes no sense

Nobody is rushing out to get an average game either. You're literally doing the same thing as that, but the scale is moved in a stupid direction.

5/10 = Mediocre
6/10 = Good
7/10 = Really Good
8/10 = Amazing
9/10 = Loved
10/10 = Classic

Nobody rushes to get something that's just "average" or "good". But it doesn't mean it's bad either.
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>>379420535
>7/10
>half
Anon...
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>>379421587
I'm pretty convinced the "Zelda Killer" shitposters were falseflaggers as well, Zelda and Horizon have next to nothing in common
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>>379421210
For me it looked mediocre at the start, and then it gradually got more and more interesting as time went by.
>yet developed an obnoxious Overwatch-tier fanbase despite not even having a taste of gameplay to go on at the time.
But the fanbase at least contains itself in the ARMS threads. While anti-Nintendofags enter the threads, get upset, and then wonder why they're upset.
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Why the fuck is everyone arguing about reviews and not the actual fucking game?
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>>379421704
>>379421707
A 5 implies it did a series of things wrong where to where it's of middling quality.

The thing is, just like in school, being of middling quality isn't good enough. You're fucking up if you're in university, and are getting half of everything wrong. The reason why a 7 is considered the approach to buying something with games is because the entry point is higher. $60 is an investment, and not a smart one, if you're enjoying it only half the time or less.
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Anyone remember the name of that site that shows Japanese pre-orders? I've been looking for it because I'm curious to see how ARMS is doing but I can't fuckin' remember the name.
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>>379422001
because they have no argument besides numbers. Even a lot of the 7-scored reviews recommened the game.

also its a shitposting thread, look at the fucking wojacks.
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>>379422127
comg
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>>379422038
Literally, nobody said 5/10 is good. Once again, nobody is rushing out to get a 5/10.

7/10 isn't even close to bad though. In fact, it's really good.
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>>379420083
>Amerifats
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>>379422249
>7 is really good
since when?
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>>379421412
>no one said it ever
>this fanbase is not one person
>its a decent score, not bad
>its fun with friends anyway

rev them up boyo
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why are people saying 70? Shits closer to an 80 on metacritic, dumped down by a few outliers
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>>379422249
No, it's like a C-. A 70 is scraping by and passing, but not excelling.

>>379422286
I once had an Irish teacher who allowed students to pass if they got a 40% in the class. I wouldn't throw too many stones.
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>>379422412
Here the lowest score to pass is 13 in a scale of 0-20

Sometimes 12 or 14
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>>379419480
Nice thumbnail faggot.
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>>379422185
Holy fuck thank you
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>>379422626
its to get past the filters, brother
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>>379422332
>All these arguments are now invalid because I greentexted them
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>>379422376
It's one more better than Andromeda, i wouldnt call that a sign of being good
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>>379422412
You're required to have a 70% in a course because it shows that you know most of what you need to do to be part of a work force.

A 5/10 shows for every thing you don't enjoy, you will enjoy something. This means it's an okay game, not worth rushing out for unless you're a die hard fan of whatever it is.

A 6/10 shows it does more right than wrong, and it's fun but not probably worth a $60 price tag.

A 7/10 shows it actually is pretty impressive and is fun to play. Arguably worth a $60 price tag.

A 8/10 shows it does a lot right, it excels at what it does. Something definitely worth purchase.

A 9/10 shows it does almost everything right, even if you're not a fan of it normally it's worth a look and is the kind of game to easily be a potential GOTY.

A 10/10 is and flawless. To rarely be given out and only for things that truly deserve it.
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>>379420763
completely nothing, it's the price they have to pay for the family-friendly image that's been stuck with them since the 80's

not that /v/'s hivemind opinion means anything in reality
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>>379423064
>it's the price they have to pay for the family-friendly image that's been stuck with them since the 80's
What does this have to do with review scores
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>>379423209
stop relying to me
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>>379423209
it has more to do with /v/ being petty little bitches
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>>379423007
I think we're disagreeing less than you may perceive.

>A 7/10 shows it actually is pretty impressive and is fun to play. Arguably worth a $60 price tag.

Like, this is exactly my sentiment, but I'm of the opinion that that is the base-like you should be going for if you have a $60 price tag over your head.

Look at something like movies or TV. It's much simpler to go see a crappy film, and it's even simpler to watch something terrible on TV. There's a much smaller level of gating, but with games, you've got a hefty price tag right up front, so it's totally logical that people shy away from anything less than a 7, because they want something that's fun more than half the time.
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>>379423735
base-line*
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>>379423209
this >>379423574
/v/ just swiftly adopts the stance that's appropriate to defend their favorite video game company or attack what they don't like
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>>379419480

mario odyssey
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Switch owner here. A 7/10 for ARMS is fair. Its fun, but not Splatoon or Smash fun. However free dlc alone should bump it up to an 8 imho. You don't see many developers do that these days.
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>>379423943
hello
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>>379423735
I can understand, but people acting like Arms was a horrible failure over a 78/100 couldn't be further from wrong is the thing. It has close to an 8/10 and that's definitely a noteworthy score.

Especially for people who are already owners of the Switch, who are all fans of Nintendo's output already. But people are trying to frame it as horrible for no reason. Hesitant is one thing, bad is another.
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>>379420763
Make an 8.5 game
That way, it's neither a massive failure nor paid reviews
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>>379424430
Oh, I'm definitely not saying Arms is bad. 78 is close to B territory, at least in my book.
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>>379424516
Is that way /v/ loves New Vegas so much? It hit that review middle ground?
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>average is now failing
Holy shit i get that youre top in your AP algebra class kid but just kill yourself now before you get your first B
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Does this game have much to offer if I DESPISE multiplayer games and want nothing more than a good lengthy singleplayer? If not, I'm gonna pass.
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>>379423007
>implying anything below a 10/10 is worth $60
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>>379419480
IT'S NOT OKAY TO LIKE FUN GAMES
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>sony fanboys are this desperate

sad
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>>379419480

Your inevitable suicide
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>>379425263
>78 is now a good score for nintendo fanboys
sad
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I pretty much stopped browsing /v/ for a while, was the Splatoon backlash this retarded too?
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>>379419480

While you get bored looking reviews Im dodging every single punch as the best Helix.
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>>379425367
>almost all review sites are giving it 8/10
Quit embarrasing yourselves by just using one site to justify the overall view of a game
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So what's the deal with ARMS overall?

Is the consensus is that the what's actually there is very good overall, but the game is too damn thin for its launch price?
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>>379419992
a 7/10 is pretty shit when you realize that metacritic has bloated review scores for video games. There are so many games on that website that are actually terrible but they get 70's.
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>>379425842
>Quit embarrasing yourselves by just using one site
You'r right, multiple sites are givin it a meh score
>almost all review sites
Are almost all of those review sites have the word 'Nintendo' on them?
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>>379422825
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW ARMS IS OUR GAME
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>>379420847
Switch owners are hungry for games. It''s been like what 3 months since the first actual worthy game to play? Remember Knack on the ps4? it was fucking trash yet sold alot because there was legit nothing else to play.
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>Ninten-drones spam 98~ for months on end
>get absolutely butt blasted now that people will spam 78~ back at them
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>>379420535
In engineering some of the professors are cunts and throw curveball questions during exams. I've had exams where a 40 was the average grade and anything about a 60 was an A.
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maybe all the nintendo fans shouldn't have shit on PS4 games for getting below a 97 so hard, you know, like an average score for a good game. so now anything below 90 is considered average, and below fucking 80 is god awful. it's no one but your own fault desu nintendo fans.
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>>379426209
What about sonybros spamming 92 for bloodborne?
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>>379425968
>8/10 is a meh score
Holy shit kys you dumb motherfucker
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>>379425968
There are far more positive reviews than lukewarm reviews, even when removing those with Nintendo in their name
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>>379420610
>SFV has great core gameplay

this is how i know you don't play fighting games
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>>379426141
>sonybros spam 78 all over
>gets surprised when 97 is thrown at them
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>>379426319
Andromeda has a 77 which is one point below ARMS would that also make it a 8/10 too, does that mean /v/ was wrong and Andromeda is a good game?
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>>379425890
Yes
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>>379426293

You can't have a double standard. If it's okay for you to spam metacritic scores in such a manner, then you have to be quiet and let them do it in return. If you think it's wrong for them to spam metacritic scores in that manner, then you have to admit that you willingly partook in the wrongdoing too.

You can't have it both ways.
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>>379426453
>if it has a good review it's paid
>if it doesn't have a perfect score it's shit
what exactly constitutes a good game
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>>379426560
Yes. Andromeda is okay if you look at the game in a vacuum, I have no idea why it is so hated. At the very least it is a buggy shooter where shooting feels good to do. Pirated it btw

Maybe because it's part of the mass effect franchise and people expect more?
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>>379426680
Pretty much this, you cant punch someone and dont expect them to throw the punch back at you
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Jesus, I'm so glad this game failed. Nintendorks can hopefully stop spamming this garbage.
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>>379419480
Why does everyone suddenly give a shit about metacritic?
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>>379426813
>failed
What are you talking about?
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>>379420523
Because it only has 2 games.
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>>379419480
>ITT: Grandpa, wait, wait. You *have* a SWITCH?
OP: No. I just like to read the reviews. Read the reviews, you don't need the Vidya.
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>>379426813
it aint even out yet
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ITT: Splatoon's prelaunch 2.0
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>>379426850
only whenever it fits someone's narrative, metacritic matters
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Sonybros got nothing else to do but bait Nintenbros while waiting for Death Stranding announcements because they're not at E3.

Any word about the game would be awesome though.
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>>379421686
then it's for numales
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>>379426706
>I have no idea why it is so hated
Really? Think harder.
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>>379426813
>Nintendorks can hopefully stop spamming this garbage.
You know that even if it were to fail we would still have /v/eekends for it right?
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