Konami thinking about the future of Castlevania

>>379415181
>Let's put Bomberman on switch and not a more well known franchise like Castlevania
Konami you fucking retard

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>>379415181
If you were hired to develop a new 3D castlevania, how would you design it to do it justice?

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Super Castlevania IV seems to be the most popular classicvania these days next to Rondo of Blood, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Super Castlevania R becoming a thing for the Switch.

When is the last time a mainline Castlevania game was on Nintendo anyway?
>>379415496
After Lords of Shadow I don't care to see Castlevania ever go full 3D, some franchises are best left in 2D.

>>379415657
Adventure Rebirth

>>379415352
Bomberman has easier mass market appeal, so it was the safer choice.

Castlevania whether it's popular or not is not as easy to get into with others as Bomberman is, and Switch needed games that make use of multiplayer experience from launch.

To me, Contra seems like a much better fit for the Switch with the 2 joycons but Classicvania would be cool too.

>>379416008
Contra is probably next if they do Castlevania R

>>379415181
2D CastleVania on Switch confirmed. Trevor Belmont confirmed for Smash.

I'm guessing it'll be something like Adventure Rebirth, maybe with a slightly bigger budget.

Probably wont follow the Symphony like games. Since the Netflix series is following Castlevania 3.

I'm all for it. Castlevania is one of those series that probably should be associated with Nintendo. I liked Symphony and Rondo, but every other time they tried to cater towards a non-NIntendo audience, they've fucked it up. They don't need to make the series gritty like Lords of Shadow, or melodramatic like Lament or a manga like Curse of Darkness. Just give me a Belmont with a whip, a Castle, Dracula and his minions, a kickass soundtrack, a colorful art-style and some classic 2D platforming action with very little story and i'm happy.

>>379415181
I just want to OMNIA OMNIA OMNIA OMNIA OMNIA OMNIA on PC.

>>379416008
it's not like the switch currently has many good games, a well-made castlevania would probably sell well

>>379415496
Souls inspired gameplay (itemization/stats akin to Castlevania itself, but with more emphasis on positioning and stuff for attacks) but with more platforming (actual platforming not LOS/GoW platforming) and puzzles ranging from puzzly puzzles to weird trolly enemy placement to a combo of both.

I feel that combining a lot of platforming and puzzle elements with good base combat is how a 3D Castlevania would be able to differentiate itself from other ARPGs today.

>>379416646
I would argue otherwise, but most people would move goal posts by saying "already played that game on another console".

>>379416359
>They don't need to make the series gritty like Lords of Shadow, or melodramatic like Lament or a manga like Curse of Darkness. Just give me a Belmont with a whip, a Castle, Dracula and his minions, a kickass soundtrack, a colorful art-style and some classic 2D platforming action with very little story and i'm happy.
This.

I just want to Belmont strut again.

>>379415496
Make it like Pandora's Tower, that is how you make a 3D Castlevania.

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>Michiru Yamane is no longer at Konami
Who would make the music? Castlevania is infamous for it's glorious soundtracks.

I hope they do both classic style and sotn style, though if I had to pick one I guess classic as hopefully we'll get some good stuff from Igarashi,
They should port the arcade game to switch for shits and giggles, pretty sure you could use the joycon for that.
>>379415657
>Super Castlevania R
>A remake of a remake
It's a bit silly, but I mean it doesn't really matter
>>379416359
Would it be Trevor? Wouldn't Richter or Simon be more likely, and Richter probably has the best moveset to easily translate to smash. Though I would not complain at all if they did Trevor like Pokemon Trainer, then we get Alucard too.

There is literally no reason SotN shouldn't be available to purchase for every platform all the time.

>>379416998
Simon would make the most sense, but Trevor is in that new Castlevania netflix series, so Konami might push for him instead.

>>379416998
Castlevania 1 has been reimagined many times, I wouldn't put it past Konami to do it again. Simon is the most recognizable Belmont too.

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>>379417012
>SOTN is still not on PSN on PS4

>>379417290
>>379417012
XBOTS WIN AGAIN

I'll believe it when I see it

>>379416540
I do as well.

>>379415181
Is the Netflix how pure Castlekino or trash?
Is it out yet?
>>379416956
I'd volunteer

I would love Castlevania for Switch

>>379419456
It comes out July anon

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>>379416956
>Castlevania's music
>Infamous

>>379419996
I read 7th June. Dammit.

please yes

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yes please gimme more Castlevania

>>379416879
I'm watching gameplay of it right now and that looks like Lament of Innocence.

>>379417290
It'd be nice if they did a remaster of that game and cut down the goddamn loading times and streamlined the menu.

>>379415181
give us ANYTHING besides lords of shit please
just a whip user, a fuckhuge castle in 2d and you will bath in money
why can't they get something so simple?

>Konami is sort of maybe kind of considering continuing their major franchises possibly in some way maybe because of overwhelming fan support.

Let's not get carried away you guys.

>>379415181
Castlevania Pachinko.

>>379415352
Didn't it sell pretty well or something? I remember Konami saying they were happy with the numbers

ain't konami still yakuza 'n shit
can't we jus go over there and fuck 'em up?

>>379423136
>Pachislot for home consoles with microtranactions.

This is how Konami became the true final boss of the video games industry

>>379415181
When Bloodstained flops, we'll probably get a new Castlevania

Dark Souls but with Universal monsters. Make it happen.

>>379415496
make sotn 3.0

>>379423073
Well, they've certainly shown lots of love to Bomberman as of late in the form of free updates to Bomberman R.

>>379415181
¨they should have made a collection of the DS games or the old ass games, dunno, just SOMETHING to wipe away the stain that was LoS

>>379419456
Not out yet, but the recent teaser leaves a decent impression. I'm cautiously optimistic about it.

Give me Castlevania 3DS collection with all the nds games

I want another game like Bloodlines with more diverse levels

anyone here still plays Harmony of Despair?

>>379423568
>more diverse levels

Body positive transgender muslim clock tower level when

>>379423452
LoS was a 9/10. Kys faggot

>>379423203
500k last time we heard about sales.

HIT THE LEVER

>>379416956
just remix the old tunes and that's it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj83YptFmFU

>>379423854
LoS 1 was a decent but derivative god of war clone. LoS 2 was a literal abortion.

>>379423054
>and you will bathe in money
I love the Classicvanias myself, but let's not go this far...

>>379423854
I'm sure you loved the STEALTH sections in LoS2

>Implying this isn't all part of the ruse.

Reminder that Hideo Kojima was recently outed as the majority Konami shareholder

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Good Feel consists of many ex-Castlevania game staff. Would love to see them work on a new game.

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>>379415496
Simple.
>Castle-based map.
>Linear but with plenty of secret areas and some alternative paths.
>Alternative endings like DoS
>Different modes like PoR
>Some form of devil-forging
>Secret areas everywhere.
>Fuck story. Either a very simple story or something a la dark souls. Gameplay, music and atmosphere first.
>Every room has a reason to be there.
>Quests, like OoE.
>Equipment shows on your character and affects you.
>Based mostly on monster-slaying, but with some platforming.
>During the game you beat enemies and earn abilities that make you progress further.
>But you can beat the game without using said skills, going either classicfag or metroidfag.
Combat would be a difficult one. I think something mixing severance: blade of darkness and Dragon's Dogma, with a touch of Zelda OoT.

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>>379415181
I can't understand why they haven't asked Nintendo about putting Simon Belmont in Smash Bros.

They need to strike while the iron is hot. Hopefully the Netflix show is a success and spurs them to make a new game.

A soft reboot with a Dracula X chronicles style remake of Super Castlevania 4 for the Switch would be a good start.

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>>379423983
>>379424023
I never played Los2 after reading that the director grew a massive ego.

LoS though, was a masterpiece and is criminally underated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COBYfxFlaYg

One of the GOAT boss fights in gaming

>>379415181
>Kojima stops draining Konami's budget
>All of a sudden they can make new entries in their older series again

Based Konami

>>379424098
Go back to your countainement threads you cultist

>>379424140
I legitimately can't wait for their next game, Yarn Kirby and Yoshi were fantastic

>>379424098
>Death Stranding is simultaneously a reboot of Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Contra, Castlevania, Mystical Ninja, Bomberman, and Bonk.

Wew

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>>379415657
It's popular because it's casualised to hell and back and Rondo is popular because it is related to SotN

Neither are popular because they are good and both are significantly worse than 1 and 3 but Rondo is still good.

4 is a castlevania for people who don't like castlevania though

actually instead of sotn

gimme circle of the moon 2.0

that was pretty good

>>379424193
YOU TWO ARE SHIT IN HoD

>>379424362
Same here man.

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>>379424167
We can always pretend Evil Zelda is Dracula.
>Fireball
>Hu hu hu
>Teleport
>Wha hah ha haa!
>Get to 50% damage
>GRANT ME POWEER!! Turns into Sheik

>>379424370
>4 is a castlevania for people who don't like castlevania though

Go away Arin.

>>379423136
Die Monster You Don't Belong In This World!

>>379415496
Actually have old school castlevania style music innit. Last one would have been decent if it didnt have such a gay ass boring genereic marvel movie universe forgettable an hero orchestral soundtrack

>>379424615
Go away James

Stop being a retard and don't post if you have literally nothing to say

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>>379424193

>>379424682
"It was not by my fans that I'm once again given flesh. I was brought here by Konami, who wishes me to get paid some jap yens."

>>379424721
Shut your whore mouth, Super Castlevania is 16-bit kino.

>>379424846
"Jap yens?"

>>379425032
"you steal fans souls and make them your slaves!"

>>379425032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_yen

>>379424927
It's a perfectly competent platformer outside of the final few stages where it shits the bed hard but it does not play like a castlevania game and instead tries to bring itself closer to standard platformers, which is why casuals like it more

High commitment movement and limited options is core to the gameplay of the classic games, if you make it control like super mario world you are completely changing the gameplay style and the main differentiator of the series

It's not a bad game but other classic castlevania games are some of the best in the genre and SC4 by playing it so safe fails to stand out in comparison

>>379424846
"Jap yens? You steal mens coins and make a soulless game."

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Gimme the following:
>Classic Castlevania, not a Metroidvania. IGA isn't even at Konami anymore and I'm pretty sure his whole team is making Bloodstained now anyway.
>Get Good Feel to develop it since they're Ex Konami staff
>multiple characters to play as again like in Castlevania 3, a Belmont whip user, a magic user like Maria or Sypha, Alucard
>15 levels max with alt routes
>option to toggle classic NES jumping
>whip swinging like Bloodlines and IV
>if at all possible, sprites, or big HD art like Dragon's Crown/Wario Land Shake it

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>>379424193
JOHNATHAN

>>379423335
I'd rather play a Castlevania game than poorly designed trash.

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>>379425484
CHARLOTTE

>>379425327
>option to toggle classic NES jumping
This would be a bad idea because the game either needs to be designed around it or it shouldn't be done.

The game will be completely trivial with momentum control if the game is designed around not having it, and it would be incredibly frustrating and pointless to play castlevania jumping if the game expects you to deal with hazards assuming you have that control.

>>379423054
>Bath in money

They did with the first LoS. Highest selling Castlevania ever

>>379423627
in PS3 it is dead, which is pretty sad really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLh4CW-mg8

>>379425252
>High commitment movement and limited options is core to the gameplay of the classic games, if you make it control like super mario world you are completely changing the gameplay style and the main differentiator of the series

So primitive controls and cheap deaths are better? Also how does SC4 play anything like Super Mario?

It's literally apples and oranges.

>>379425705
yeah but then look at what happened with the sequel

>>379425701
Rebirth handled this just fine.

>>379425327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC5Pc6Es4mE

>>379423627
I don't understand why this never got a PC port

It is basically made for steam sale 4 pack shit and the PC community is more receptive to this kind of multiplayer in general

The game would still be live and kicking today if it popped up on the christmas sales and shit at 5.99 or whatever, wasted opportunity and lack of market awareness

>>379425926
Konami just doesn't care
although it would needs mods or nerfs in PC, in PS3 it was SOMAS EVERYWHERE and some Julius retard styling everywhere except for being useful at battle

>>379425926
It would be awesome if they made a master edition for current gen.

Add more levels, loot, and characters to what's already there.

>>379415181
Rondo of Blood (PC Engine/PSP) is the best Classicvania

>>379425869
I consider rebirth very badly designed but I seem to be in the minority on that.

Hard mode in particular is so, so poor. They literally just gave up and filled virtually every area with red skeletons that respawn about a second after you kill them, and otherwise the difficulty stems from placing enemies in areas where you cannot hit them with the limited moveset of the game, with it being very common for enemies to be attacking you through walls or at angles your whip cannot hit.

I think most people who like the game played on normal, which is fine and not quite as bad, but hard is such a mess that it really soured my opinion of the game. It also relies very heavily on 'cheap' pitfall deaths, something Castlevania 1 never did and 3 did very rarely,. Rebirth loves them.

I would honestly rate it as the worst classic game, or at least a contender. Not even memeing I had more fun with 2 than that game.

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>>379423317
it won't be shit, r-right?

>>379426046
PS3 also fucked Maria over big time by not having her hymn be holy element.

>>379426378
oh the only patch made Charlotte so useless she may as well had been removed entirely from the game

>>379426294
Designs are shit tho.
Except for that guy with glasses. He's Husbando material.
And it looks more like the happy-go anime adventure that was PoR than the gothic fantasy I personally like. That in terms of style.

>>379415496
Easy. Make a few basic 2D platforming levels, then just let people go up them in 3D. Make some of them double back on themselves, spiral upwards, etc. and add a few segments that rely on 3D movements (wall-jumping or swinging around corners, or jumping sideways out of a boulder's path). Now you stitch all these together in the same fashion as Dark Souls or Metroids (Super and the GBA games did it well) where you mostly go from certain parts of one area to the next in a linear pattern but unlock shortcuts and secret passages between them, revisiting new areas in old levels without it feeling like backtracking. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, you add the enemies. You do so by playing the level with no enemies and just platforming, then adding enemies specifically in all the places where it would screw with how you did the jumps the first time. Replay to make sure it's possible and adjust.

Slap a Transylvanian castle horror skin on it, play a snazzy remix of Vampire Killer, and put it on the market.

>>379423335
But Castlevania is a 2D platformer
Why would a 2D platformer evolve into something like Dark Souls? A series with the worst jumping mechanics ever

>>379425848
>So primitive controls and cheap deaths are better?
The controls are not in any way primitive, they are how the game is designed to be played. Castlevania is about slow, careful movement and dealing with reactable hazards with the correct answer.

There are very rarely cheap deaths in any of the good classic games. Pitfalls are actually very rare, and where there is a risk of being knocked into one the game always gives you time to see the hazard and prepare yourself for it.

If you consider more limited controls to be 'primitive' then you simply don't know what you're talking about and need to play more games. To use another genre, Street Fighter is more limited control wise than King of Fighters, which is similar but has more movement options. The result is that the games play differently, but KoF is not a strict improvement over SF purely because it's less restrictive, it just changes how the game is played. Whether it plays worse or better is a completely different matter.

I mean it controls like super mario in that it attempts to control in the traditional way, which makes it play in a traditional way. SCV4 doesn't have the careful planning/reactionary based gameplay of the NES games, it's closer to games like Mario and Megaman X in how it's designed and controlled, not that you're running around and flying with a cape or whatever you're getting at.

We'll know if anything is happening when leaker bro returns, he's leaked every Castlevania since the DS games. He even leaked Bloodstained details before the KS went live.

>>379426463
I know what you mean, I am replaying SotN and I love how morbid and spooky the environments are.

>>379415181
What is the best Castlevania game for someone who hasn't played one before to get started?

I own Dawn of Sorrow for the DS but haven't played it. Should I start there or will it ruin earlier entries for me?

>>379424362
Sadly Tomita left Good Feel, so no more comfy music

>>379426859
Play Aria of Sorrow, since DoS is a direct sequel. It's on the GBA, so it emulates fine.

>>379426859
play the 3 games from GBA first
- Circle of the Moon is HARD but very good
- Harmony of Dissonance is.... weird, confusing at times but otherwise decent
- Aria because it will make Dawn more enjoyable when you play it

>>379426859
Super Castlevania 4 and Symphony of the Night are good entry points.

>>379426859
Just play the original NES game. The other games have more advanced control schemes, but the methodical level design of the original is top tier. Plus, you won't have to worry about understanding any bullshit lore for the first game.

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>>379426859
Super Castlevania 4 if you want to feel the "true" evolution of the classic series, the air controls are a really good improvement over every other Classic Castlevania.

>>379426859
Release order for the classic games, skipping 2

SotN first for the metroid ones, then I'd say AoS>DoS and then whatever.

The two types may as well be separate franchises honestly. If you care about getting the lore down play 1,3, 4 or Rondo first just so you know the whole belmont deal and what the franchise is founded on

>>379415181
1999
continuation of Souls series,or at least similar mechanics
just do it ffs

>>379424798
Charlotte and Jonathan lewds are a miracle of the universe.

Why is Rondo of Blood so popular? the game is not even that good compared to Castlevania 4.

>>379427275
Simon's Quest is not THAT bad

>>379426660
>There are very rarely cheap deaths in any of the good classic games. Pitfalls are actually very rare, and where there is a risk of being knocked into one the game always gives you time to see the hazard and prepare yourself for it.

Calling bullshit there

>>379427327
>Rondo of Blood
because Richter

>>379415496
Whoever developed Dragon's Dogma's Bitterblack Isle.

>>379427328
Compared to other games, it certainly is.

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>>379415496
Uniornically a next-gen Castlevania 64. I thought that shit was so fun and inventive. The chainsaw man in the garden, the part where you had to transport a potion without getting hit or jumping, the Minotaur fight, the spider ladies, the different vampire characters and twists. I'll never understand why it got so much hate.

So yeah, C64 with a bigger, seamless castle and surrounding forest. More weapons, enemies, bosses, and paths. Something along the lines of Bloodborne but staying true to its roots.

>>379427327
saving waifus

>>379427327
SotN babies.

>>379427327

Anime.

>>379427327
It was a rare game for a while because it never saw a western release for many years.

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>>379427127

>>379415496
>>379427441
I'm a retard, I read that as "who would you hire"

Either way, it should still be done and have similar aesthetics to Bitterblack Isle. The Death fight, as well as the end boss, both screamed Castlevania influences.

No, Konami. You don't get off that easily. You pulled waaaay too much shit to be forgiven with a simple "eh, we're thinking about it".

>>379427441
>TFW no whip.
I missed it so much. I would have loved for a Vampire Hunter-type class and skills.
>Whipping enemies, throwing axes, daggers and holy water to your enemies.
It would have been glorious.
I'd make a wizard with thunder whip if it wasn't shit.
>>379427554
>TFW You will never work in the next Castlevania team

>>379427726
Get out kojimadrone, the autistic ruse thread is two blocks down.

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soon

>>379427854

I don't give a fuck about Kojima.

You don't treat your employees like Korean sweatshop workers and expect to get off scott-free with one good Switch game and pie-in-the-sky promises.

>>379427726
Go back to getting cucked by a homosexual black man in /trash/

>>379427419
Elaborate then. I know CV1 very well and there is only one area in the game I would consider to have any random element, which is the first room on the clock tower of the final stage, where you need to go downstairs and flea men attack you. That is random and without the stopwatch you may take hits (not death) through no fault of your own.

Outside of that, there is nothing. The bats that can knock you from the raft have predictable patterns and can easily be killed or avoided, and the game gives you subweapons to help you.

The only other serious fall hazards are things like a pit with a skeleton on the other side, where there is no danger to you until you attempt the jump, and if you get hit at that point when the hazard and danger are clear to you then it is your fault.

There are some areas in 3 that are genuinely cheap and effectively require memorisation or exploits to consistently succeed, like Dark Trevor or the falling blocks segment, but they are rare and the game as a whole is still generally fair outside of those.

For the record, 4 has a lot more 'bullshit' moments like that than any of the NES games, and actively works unexpected knocks into pits as part of the level design. The better movement does very little to help it there, people like you just prefer it because unlike the NES games it is piss easy and anyone can beat it with little effort.

>>379427554
Castlevania 64 was supposed to the Ocarina of the franchise. But Konami got crazy and rushed it out to meet a holiday release. The game was buggy and unfinished.

They fixed some of game's glaring faults with the Legacy of Darkness version but it was too late.

>>379428076
>only one area in the game I would consider to have any random element

Is the hall before Death random? The one with Axe Knights and Medusa Heads?

>>379427327
Because most 'castlevania fans' have only played SotN, Rondo and SC4. Maybe the first stage of 1 before dropping it.

>>379428170
oh man that one was bullshit
I had the NES and the game back then like 15 years ago or more and could never beat Death because that hall fucked me up badly

>>379427941
>July 7th

Got damn

>>379427328
Simon's Quest is a literal masterpiece and people can fuck off for hating it.

Okay so it was my first video game ever and all I had to play for 7 months as a kid because video games were expensive as shit in those days, but I loved it. I lived inside that game. Beat it even though I was only 5 years old without anything like Nintendo Power and the internet sure as fuck wasn't around like today

>But how did a 5 year old figure out kneeling by the lake
Old CRT monitors showed a few blocks under the water. I had the blue crystal equipped by default and after a few failed attempts at jumping into the water, I knelt and it worked.

>But how the fuck did you figure out kneeling at the cliff for the tornado to take you away?
Child logic. Kneeling by the blue lake with the blue crystal got me to a secret passage. So kneeling by the red cliff with the red crystal would surely lead to a similar result, right? And it did.

>>379428170
I'm not sure but it is manageable if you're careful, though very difficult. Again you should only get hit there if you make a mistake.

It *might* be possible for a bad pattern to lead to an unavoidable hit, though I doubt it and you could just hit whatever hazard is causing the problem. And again, that is just a single hit rather than a 'cheap death'.

>>379428076
>4 has more BS moments
>But it's too easy
Make up your mind anon.

>>379427554
The only problem with Castlevania 64/Legacy of Darkness was the camera. A modern day port of it with better camera control would cement it as a great entry in the series. The Villa is one of the finest levels i've played.

>>379428170
No. The Medusa heads always enter the screen at a steady rate, and first appear at a set distance above the players head. This is true for everywhere they show up. I always time my jumps to make them appear higher up, so I can just walk/duck underneath them.

>>379428362
>Simon's Quest is a literal masterpiece

Stopped reading there.

>>379427554
Dont forget the OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKQ6DQ8Q450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWQ1p7CYzt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeEvRpLcmnE

i dont care what SotN babies say, this game has pretty good atmospheric music, even at times spooky.

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>>379428826

Best CV girl.

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>tfw the last Castlevania game was released in 2014

>>379428918
Morrigan is chocking on Owain's cock right now.

>>379424265
Konami wasn't making anything off of the long development cycles AAA games required. Going back to smaller/niche titles is better for them.

>>379428985

Too bad Capcom can't do that too.

And Sega. And every other company on Earth.

>>379428480
The first time I played 4 I got to something like the 6th stage before dying. It is very easy. It has probably the easiest dracula in the series.

If you count bad design as 'hard' though then yes, it is hard in places. I can't quite remember the name of it, but the skeleton bird thing boss is an example of a boss that is hard purely because the hitboxes on it are wonky as fuck rather than any actual challenge. Equally, on another stage, the game deliberately places a skeleton throwing projectiles at a jump you must immediately make or die. You don't get to pick when to jump like the NES games, if he throws that bone at the wrong time you just die. Too bad, try again. The level with the rising books (I think) near the end you must ride is also pure memorisation, and the first time you go through the stage you will probably hit some spikes that suddenly appear from offscreen and die. No reactionary gameplay, no strategy, you just had to know they were there.

That's bad design. That's something that CV1 does not have at any point. That said, if you bash your head against it enough you will succeed, because most of the game doesn't require much from you. Use enough continues and you will beat 4 no matter how shit you are.

>>379428918
That's not Shanoa.

>>379429053
SEGA easily could, Sonic Mania definitely doesn't cost them as much as a modern Sonic title.

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>>379429127
Shanoa's pretty close. Not enough porn though.

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I want a new Castlevania to go back to the classic gothic horror homage instead of the overblown anime shit that drove all the Metroidvanias into the ground.

>>379415181

Super Castlevania R plz.

>>379429147

They certainly have the library for it.

But no. Modern gaming is all "big budget, AAA cinematic experiences with the few IPs we still bother to push", while older series get left to rot.

Guarantee whatever is next will be based off of the Netflix series if it's a hit.

>>379429201
Shanoa is literal perfection

>>379429252
Why don't you go be useful and buy and scan SF vs DS #2 Boco

>>379429304
so a remake of Dracula's Curse?

Just release DoS, PoR & OoE in a collection for Switch

>>379429201
>needing porn to estimate a character's worth.

Absolutely disgraceful.

>>379429374

Did buy it. Scanner's broke.

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Who is the best Belmont/protagonist?

>>379429504
b-but waht about Mirror of Fate?

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>>379429226
For some reason, I want them to try a Wind Waker style cel-shading.

When I look at something like pic related, I cant help but see a cartoony game. I want the next Castlevania to keep this kind of bright color scheme. Give me my bright blues and whites and greens and pure blacks and orange.

Alternatively go full Madworld and set it in black and white. Like your picture

>>379429226
Ecclesia tried. You could literally use its plot for one of these old movies.

>>379429413
This would be the most ironic shit considering IGA wanted to remake 3 for awhile while he was at Konami.

>>379429413
Not him, but I'd be cool with that.

>>379429581
Richter

>>379429581
Sonia

>>379429581
You just answered your question.

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>>379429616
black and white would actually be pretty fucking cool, I never even thought of that

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>tfw no HoD on PC

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>>379429581
Simon

>>379429616

Ya know what'd be neat? A Paper Mario artstyle.

Like, take the old sprites, but have them be flat, and literally flip over when they turn. I'd buy that.

so why did SotN had such TERRIBLE voice acting? sure people always remember the terrible DIE MONSTER exchange, but the other voiced scenes were just as bad if not even worse

>>379429665
what
EoE is an anime plot

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>>379429581
Trevor

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>>379429127
This guy gets it.

>>379429581
Why does Simon never wear any fucking pants, his attire doesn't even match the era he lives in.

>>379429581
>>379429794
>>379429749

>toxic masculinity

Ummm, noooo sweetie.

>>379429859

Because it was 1997. One year after Resident Evil, and months after Mega Man 8 and Mega Man X4.

Game companies were too busy getting used to 32-bit technology to worry about competent voice acting.

Castlevania R for Switch, my nigga

>>379429913
battle clothes

>>379429859
I felt like Alucard's voice was perfect.

>>379429843
>PaperVania

I'll buy 20 copies

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>>379429505
I don't need it, but it helps.

>>379429913
easy access sluts
gotta spread belmont spawns as much as he can

I'm sure someone has said this already, but all I want is another 2d castlevania, preferably one in a linear fashion and a metroidvania

>>379429913
Because he's a badass. Same reason he uses a whip.

>>379429952
Shut the fuck up.

>>379430039
>MOTHER
>I'M CUMMING MOTHER!
kek

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>>379429952
>sweetie

>>379429859
I wouldn't call it terrible, just hammy.

>>379429859
Every game had shitty voice acting in the 90´s.

Vast majority of games had no voice acting.

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>>379429226
>>379429773

what old movies are good to watch if I love castlemania?
like which ones inspired it? I don't know anything about movies help me

>>379415496

Bloodborne, but with Dracula as the final boss. Seriously, playing with the threaded cane it's pretty much 3D Castlevania.

>>379430247

Any vampire movie made by Universal and Hammer.

Any horror movie made by them in general, really.

>>379424442
Jonathan's actually pretty good if you have the DLC loot.

>>379430390
Bloodborne is the best 3D Castlevania ever

>>379429860
>Two vampire hunters and a master
>Master chooses one to be the one to do a ritual to vanquish Dracula
>The other, jealous, steals her mojo and goes into a village, where he kidnaps people and experiments with their blood, trying to find "something".
>Pursued by his former companion, he tries to destroy Dracula on his own, only to end up possessed by him.
Reminds me of the Curse of Frankenstein, picking up the story we know and changing it into something new with different motivations.

>>379430428
potentially he could be the most damaging whip user thanks to the martial arts subweapons, but you need CURAYZE control input to do so, when ricther and julius have a much easier time to do so

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>>379430247
The ending of CV1 should give you the clues.

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>>379415181

They need to bring back the Father of Castlevania, Keiji Inafune.

>>379430623

this baka desu senpai

what do you guys think of Lament of Innocence? it tried something rather different at its time and I thought it was good

>>379430623
This is a new tier of shitposting, even by Inafune standards

>>379430247
Google "pre-code horror films" if you want the true OG inspirational material for most of it. I've literally fallen asleep trying to watch some of them, but that's as classic as it gets if you want it.

>>379430852
>it tried something rather different

Ripping off Devil May Cry?

>>379430852
Leon is the shittiest Belmont ever

>>379430974
Devil May Cry was after LoI and God of War.

>>379430623
>Todd, Sean, and Inafune all collaborate for a new open-world Castlevania RPG in which you can do anything

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>>379431091

>>379431091
DMC1 was 2001. LoI was 2003

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>>379430924
Pre-code movies were the tits, it's a shame how things turned out back then

>>379431091

You have your timeline all screwed up, friend.

DMC was 2001, LOI was 2003, and GoW was 2005.

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>>379430852
"how I became Dracula: the game"
the premise was kinda stupid considering they constantly kept referring to the actual book in previous games

>>379431353
CHARLOTTO

>>379431391
Also the whole the whip contains the soul of my dead girlfriend was pretty stupid.

>>379424140
Wario Land Shake It! still blows me away with its smooth animations hand drawn everything. Super comfy

>>379431632
oh that too
>tfw the whip has been a qt all this time
at least the OST was cool

>The Belmonts always use a whip in official/fanart
>Wind up using a chain or flail throughout 90% of the games
Why is this?

>>379429776
Wait for rpcs3 I guess

>>379431732

Cuz usually it becomes a chain via an item upgrade, which I suppose you don't necessarily need to get to finish the game.

>>379431632
>>379431632
>Dracula just cribbed a castle a previous owner was already using as his monster pad.
>Death followed him because he had a stone that will NEVER EVER be elaborated on

Dumb as shit.

>>379431732
https://youtu.be/p77A1AUP4kI?t=2263

Because this movie didn't become popular.

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wat is your favorite castlevania song?

>>379432251
Beginning

>>379432251
Bloody Tears

>>379432251
Wicked Child

>>379432251
Aquarius

>>379431632
>>379431391
>>379432007

Koji Igarashi is a mediocer writer.

>>379432251

Bloody Tears, no contest.

>>379415181
The Future of CastleVania is that it should play a bit like Bloodborne and improve on it.

The guidelines are all there they just need to perfect it.

>>379432635
>souls fags find another way they can demand that all games start to play like theirs

>>379432251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWRq1v-x7c

>>379415181
https://youtu.be/bqheYYeA4k4

You think Igarashi is in the right?

>>379432839
I fucking love this movie

>>379432251
The Clock Tower Tragic Prince.

>>379429581
>>379429913
Why we're pantless MC's so fucking popular in Jap games back in the 80's?

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>>379429581
He wanted to be an interior decorator but had to take over his family business.

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>>379432635
>Bloodborne.
Not digging it. I'd have some unique whip mechanics.
>Can entangle enemies with whip to finish them with a sword or a stake,
>Can bring those enemies down
>Can block some missile attacks, push levers and shit with said whip
>Can hold onto things
Whip would be a long range-main weapon with decent damage and a lot of tricks and skills, then sword would be for short range combos.
Then you'd have daggers/axe/cross and holy water for extra tricks.
BUT whip wouldn't be just some max range+spam attacks on all enemies like LoS. You don't do that with a real whip. You could have some Dragon's Dogma-ish combat with these mechanics, but with more meaty movement and hits.

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>>379433596
Really? His house looked like shit.

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>>379433584

Simon's design is taken from a brief scene in Arnold's Conan film from 1982.

>>379415496
Detailed whip mechanics. You could choose various weapons for your main hand, but the whip would be a central mechanic.
>swing from ledges
>climb big enemies
>trip or restrain smaller enemies
>drag them around
It'd also be useful for stunning enemies, allowing you to attack them with your main weapon and making the combat all about crowd control.
>Get attacked by a towering cyclops
>its eye is the weakpoint
>wrap the whip around its neck and pull its head down so you can reach it with your main weapon
Stuff like that.
Also bring back the classic style of music and don't bother with an in-depth story, make it all about the setting with some side-characters scattered around the castle.
Finally put a bigger focus on the castle being a 'creature of chaos', make it actively change itself around and fuck with you more.

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>>379433948
I gazed into your eyes and knew you were my nigga. Have some lewd.

>>379433948
No reason you couldn't try and do some of these in 2d as well. Also this made me want a Belmont in Smash Bros.

>>379432251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SALcnafOZQQ

really the whole game soundtrack tho

>>379432839
God-tier taste

>>379415181
This is just like when they said MGS wasn't dead right before they announced Survive

>>379432839
What is this and why haven't I listened to it all my life? Is the movie any good?

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Are people still down on this game? I've always really liked it but it seems like people always wrote it off for silly reasons.

>>379435008
It's actually a really shitty nonsensical movie, as expected from the macaroni master of horror Fulci.

>>379435073

Its my fave Metroidvania.

And not just because I wanna bang Charlotte. Although I do.

>>379435073
>For silly reasons.
Too anime and shitty characters. It makes the castle less spooky.
But in terms of gameplay it's really fun.

>>379435008
The movie is part of a trilogy called The Gates of Hell, and it's arguably the worst one. They're basically zombie movies but with strong apocalyptic and surrealist themes, and lots of gore.

Castlevania is my favourite series of all time by an absolute mile and i can say with 100% certainty that i hope it remains 100% dead

I cant bear to watch the modern gaming industry repeatedly rape its corpse

Give me a PC port of CV:HD if you like, but then please god leave it alone

>>379435323
>Too anime and shitty characters. It makes the castle less spooky.
Except you can just hit start and skip all the cutscenes, the actual in-game stuff is still spooky because it's all shit from older games that they never bothered to censor

unless you just mean the crappy artstyle "too anime" hasn't been a legitimate complaint in castlevania since rondo of blood had maria in it

>>379435497
the anime art style was a bad choice, but aside from that, it really isn't much different than the other games
hell, I would even argue it's just as good as AoS

>>379423314
I thought that was EA. Konami is the 'easy mode' boss for casuals.

>>379435981
> but aside from that, it really isn't much different than the other games
I dunno if I can disagree, I feel like POR has a bunch of welcome changes from the other handheld metroidvanias

>Had actual castlevania level design with traps and enemies arranged in stages to actively fuck you over, especially on hard mode, instead of "its a hallway with enemies in it" syndrome
>Brought back a lot of the technical skill and weird sequence breaking glitches that have been mostly absent since SOTN
>The portrait gimmick lets them have some unique settings instead of just reusing the areas from sotn over and over
>Heavily reduced importance on grinding compared to other games if you want cool stuff, and grinding is more convenient because of better drop rates
>Bonus characters are actually fun to play for more than 5 minutes

>>379415496

souls clone with alucard as the main character

>>379430241
People that didn't live through it can't appreciate it. This was the worst overall I can personally remember, although I'm sure people had better examples. I also hated Tales of Destiny II/Eternia's voice acting enough that I shut the voices down. At least SOTN was funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjWDKPrJNSs

considering the Netflix Castlevania series is coming out this year, it would be retarded for Konami to not start releasing at least some new games for the franchise

>>379437147
>out this year,

Actually it's exactly one month.

>>379432251
It will always be Wandering Ghosts for me, that track is fucking amazing.
Wicked Child, Heart of Fire, SoTN techno goth Vampire Killer, and HoD Ebony Wings are some of my favourites too. This series has the best god damn music ever.

>>379435008
Italian horror soundtracks of the 70's and 80's tended to be really good even when the movies themselves weren't. Here's another one with that Castlevania sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MO-GFfMWyA

>>379438648
Oh shit. Ever since I heard the House By the Cemetery I was searching for this one. Thanks.

>ITT: delusion retards who think if a new Castlevania game will drop that it will play like the older Classicvania or Metroidvania and not be something completely different considering that the best selling of the franchise is Lords Of Shadow
You kids need to grow up and get a job. A real job, too, not flipping patties.

>>379438965
Says the person spending his time shitposting on an imageboard best known as the asshole of the internet.

>>379429581
Julius

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>>379439376
I think we're far enough in the thread that everyone needs a reminder.

What's her name /v/?

>>379438648
If we're doing this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWd6_jIT3EM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf1Vt6r-sj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCThpxidvAw

>>379415496
Openworld, love interests, levelling system, random loot, modern day with guns and online multiplayer survival mode

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>>379438965
>the best selling of the franchise is Lords Of Shadow
>MFW it's true.
>MFW casual friend who never fucking played castlevania at all said "I never liked this franchise but LoS is so fun :DD"
I will never not be mad.

>>379439235
It's almost 9pm here. I am home from work, and waiting for the food to cook. An exhausting day, but I know I'll never be as pathetic as people who can't move on from the past.

>>379415496
Make it Dark Souls because the Souls series is literally metroidvania in 3D.
>interconnected levels
>large variety of enemies
>levels don't get rahashed like the inverted castle or reverse paintings

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>>379439520
Sure, here's a few more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-BZ9dS5jxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnFlKqABhrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FIJYZwkoM0

There's so many gems. I wish movie music was still this cool.

>>379415181
Castlevania should have died a long time ago, and I'm the guy who loved the old games.

castlevania never got any identity of its own, after the classical games it was always "it's castlevania but like metroid" or "it's castlevania but like god of war". The only identity castlevania ever had was during the old era. "can't control in the middle of the jump" and "chickens in the wall"

The only reason why metroidvania exist is because nintendo said "fuck you" to metroidfans so metroidfans had to use metroidvania. I mean, that's my theory. Are there any people here who love metroidvania but hate metroid games? I don't think so. I wouldn't know since I hate metroid-like games.

I don't hate people who like metroidvania just saying if it wasn't for metroidvania that fucking franchise would have died a long time ago. Like any old sidescroller. But that didn't happened because metroidvania had strong sales, and that snowballed the spin-offs and kinda succesful lords of shadow subseries which died when after mediocre los 1 konami shit the bed with los 2 and classical 3ds game.

What Castlevania needs is a new classical game and do that every 10 years or so. A good classical not that garbage on 3ds. Just stop trying to make castlevania into something that's not.

>>379440460
You got taste

Have something dumb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRT9pRAROM

>>379440153
I don't know why anyone would be happy with this when dark souls fans aren't even happy with the way the original creators do it anymore. Whatever they do with it should depend on who they have making games for them. I'd prefer to see them try a good game with Castlevania slapped onto it rather than trying to do something they have no idea how to make.

>>379440153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OMPRTPx9rw

I did this on my second build.
Beating minotaur with daggers, firebombs and a whip was really nice. It felt like a Classicvania 3d.
>>379440661
I liked pretty much every castlevania game until LoS. My first Castlevania was the first for NES.
LoS was just lame.

>>379439520
>>379440460
>>379440772
damn this thread turned into Brad Jones and Good Bad Flicks

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>>379415181
with the show coming out.
they might go for a castlevania 3 remake

>>379440915
shot on shitteo™

>>379441308
They really made Sypha a qt. I like the style they aimed for.

>>379441308

>remakes

Fuck no. The remake meem needs to die.

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>>379441308
>>379441376
>They really made Sypha a qt. I like the style they aimed for.
yeah. they already did a better job than most other Sypha designs

>>379415181
>Post-Kojima Konami got fucked by the Nintendo Yakuza, and now they're reviving all of their old series.
I'm just glad they're not the MGS company. It would be great if Castlevania and Bomberman became the main series of Konami.

>>379441584
I'll buy a Switch if a new 2D Castlevania releases for it.

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>>379439459

>>379415496
Somewhere between Devil May Cry 1, Bloodborne, and The Witcher 3.

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>>379441670
Close enough.

>>379415496
I'd (unintentionally) piss off the fans by making it as Classicvania as possible to the point where it'd be the "3D World" of Castlevanias.

>>379424370
Go back to /vr/ australia-kun.

>>379441928
how would that piss people off?
I'd kill for a classic style, and I started the series with SotN

>>379440153
Not really. Castlevania is as much about the platforming as it is the combat. Dark Souls has no platforming, at least not in a traditional sense.

>>379441928
>Trevor=Mario
>Alucard=Luigi
>Sypha=Peach
>Grant=Toad

Holy shit, fund it.

>>379415181
It's pretty much dead. Unless they make it very similar to dark souls, which is what castlevania should rightly have turned into, then all hope is lost in this day and age.

>>379442245
Because everyone seems to hate 3D Worlds platforming, when I feel like it's a great marriage of giving 2D gameplay a Z axis.

>>379416706
This. Every time a play any of the dark souls I think this is what a 3d castlevania could of been

>>379442557
That's how I felt when I first played Dark Souls, but now I wonder if they actually did make a souls-like Castlevania if it'd even be good.

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>>379441308
I wonder if Grant will appear in any capacity. When the talks were first going around ten years ago Warren Ellis said that he wouldn't, but that was back when he was only going to have 80 minutes to work with.

>>379442643
Well it would go back a to the times when castlevania was difficult but still have a bit of the metroidvania style as well

>>379442661
it'd be stupid to leave Grant out

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>>379442661
>I wonder if Grant will appear in any capacity.
as a CV3 fan. i hope he does.
However. i fear he won't appear.
and if he does , that his role will be small

>>379415496
>Open World. Relatively small.
>Going from Village to Village, taking contracts.
>Monsters and bosses may vary and appear in different areas.
>You have to investigate and search for clues, then prepare for the specific monster battles.
>If you fight mermen you may take with you herbs to avoid drowning, if you fight a wraith you will need holy water for extra damage and so on.
>You can track down the monsters or prepare traps for them when they attack.
>There are some vampire hunters working as well, but none of them will attack a major boss.
>Some bosses have their own story and will advance or stop depending on your actions.
>You have to level up and hunt them down while at their weakest so that you can gain new skills and upgrade your gear.
>Game has a timer a la Majora's Mask.
After that timer passes Dracula comes and the world gets covered in darkness and filled with horrible monsters. Those bosses you haven't killed either become part of Dracula's minions.
Now Seriously, don't do Castlevania 3d. Use a different name and do something of your own. Else see LoS

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Just leaving this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwIQ3nBZ4Dw

>>379415496
Dark souls, but with linear progression of stages, and focus on platforming/abilities

>>379443153
Personally, if they were going 3-D I'd rather have them expand on Curse of Darkness rather than ripping off Dark Souls.

>>379443016
to be fair, I imagine both Sypha and Grant's roles will be downplayed
hell, it's not like they were mandatory in the original game, you could do just as fine with Trevor
they probably will overhype Alucard, since they likely will do another season about him and his shit

Make more Metroidvania games and don't oversaturate the market like what happened during the DS era. There, I saved Konami.

>>379443061
>Castlevania
>without being trapped in the castle
how about fuck no

>>379443519
I imagine she get some screen time, what with being Trevor's future wife and all that. Not sure about Grant

>>379443579
>Metroidvania
>don't oversaturate the market
Ah yes, because it's not like there aren't Metroid style games that get released almost once a month

>>379443709
>what is simons quest

>>379443709
>what is order of ecclesia

>>379415496
it's basically the first Devil May Cry, but with more RPG elements and actual exploration instead of a series of unique keys for unique doors.

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>>379443862
>>379443903
Games I didn't play

>>379432251
Forest of Monsters

>pachinkonami
>thinking about any games besides pachinko

>>379435073
I just really thought the whole "you are controlling two characters" to be really underdevelop and doesn't really serve a greater purpose outside of "you have to use two people to get past this screen" and even that was dropped off really quickly from the beginning. Plus I really didn't like how easily Jonathan outpaces Charlotte in terms of overall usefulness. Also, there is no quick skill change.

>>379443862
>>379443903
shit, that's what they are

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>>379444268
you know you want the pachi

>>379443709
That's the thing. The open world would be smaller than DD. The castle would be 50% of the game.
You would spend half of the game gitting gud, then the other half going to hunt Drac in a bigass castle. First part of the game would always play different. Second part would be samey, but different thanks to the skills you earned through the first part. Once you get into Dracula's castle and the gate closes behind you there is no way out.

>>379444867
>OoE
>Shit
Explain.

>>379416956
Mick Gordon

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>>379443519
>>379443772
Sypha being his love interest , magic user and the only relevant female will probably get her at least a decent amount of screen time. even if it's less than trevor and alucard

Grant is a different story

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>>379443121
Quality music, quality video, quality post.

>>379443016
>grant appear in any capacity
Hes in the trailer though isn't he? Unless that was trevor throwing all those knives even though he didn't have item crashes

>>379426650
>implying classic Castlevania didn't have horrible jumping mechanics

>>379445792
DS jumping was really bad in every game, but it never enraged me like jumping in Castlevania.

Well, maybe once or twice, but at least not constantly. But a game that is designed around small enemies and projectiles knocking you into bottomless pits when you have limited lives is just cruel.