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N-NO! IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS!!

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N-NO! IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS!!
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78
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>>379401107
ahahaha it's actually 78 and Metacritic matters. SO Arms is shit. But botw is legendary tho
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Remind me again, what was Splatoon score?


i wanna see how many millions it'll sell, and how fun it will be


What's that? You say that score doesn't necessarily correlate with success ? Woah, mind blown
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>>379401557
Splatoon got 81
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Only thing I'm wondering is where the fuck is this "Nintendo bonus" thing coming from?
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>>379401772
my, 81 ? That's apparently quite shit, no doubt splatoon will be drab and sell nothing at all. A shame, i like squids that are also kids, b-but metacritic console shitter say it can,t be
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>>379401887
Fabulation due to lack of oxygen to brain
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>>379401887
Salty sonybros realizing that 78 ain't that bad and they have to make something up to make it seem worse
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>>379401107
>reinvents
>essential

?
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/v/ is so desperate to try and derail the Nintendo train that they're unironically trying to pretend that 8/10 is a bad game.
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>>379401107
>Arms is deep
I don't doubt it can be competitive and fun as hell, but, dayum, Arms has no depth whatsoever.
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>>379402237
>he doesn't know about the tech

Some character throw punchs while starting a dash and keep momentum. Other can stall in the air by gettign extra dashes. You can also do thin or large grabs , where it's less likely the enemy arms will hit your ARMS (and thus fuck over your grab)


This was from the 1st testpunch, imagine when the game is actually played for a bit
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>>379402657
That tech doesn't make it deep, let alone when compared to any other fighting game.
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>>379402943
re-read what you wrote
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>>379401107
>>379401494
>>379402062
>>379402221
They're paid reviews you fucking mongrells
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>>379403202
Me re-reading what I wrote doesn't make Arms any more deep.
It's not deep, even if it has some tech.
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>>379403345
>pad review
>lower than 90
cry more sonybabby
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As deep as Pokken right?
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the days before e3 on this board are so bad
so many console war shitposts but no amusing new memes its like a recording of a home for the severely autistic stuck on loop

I hope none of you reproduce
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>>379403345
Nintendo got 9-10: Paid reviewers
Nintendo got got 8-7: Nintendoomed
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>>379402221
>to the world of extendable-arm boxing
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>>379403425
His argument is way more convincing than yours, in case you hadn't noticed.
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>>379401417
>>379401424
This
Just because two guys said its good that doesnt change the fact its lukewarm at best
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>>379403946
Agreed. Then again, we got the game of the decade already, so i'm fine with it
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The test punch was ok but I'm not paying $60 for that

Pretty much the biggest complaint in every review is the lack of content, and I got that vibe in my first glance of ARMS. It's funny how your initial impression so often ends up being correct
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>>379404064
But Switch didn't get Automata
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>>379401417
Same as Splatoon, lad.
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>>379401945
UR A SQUID UR A KID
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>>379401424
>Metacritic matters
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>>379404287
lol no
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how people beleive theres some deep gameplay behind this gimmick is beyond me

fucking hell consoles truly are at the bottom of the barrel
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>>379404417
>90+ score
>M-metacritic matters guys!!!
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>>379403425
His argument: Gives an example of variance in move execution to add technique practice to the game

Your argument: It doesn't play like a traditional fighter so it has no skill ceiling or depth to the mechanics.

Pretty sure he proved you wrong.
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>>379402943

This fetishization of "real fighting games" is fucking ridiculous when you realize that fighting games are a niche genre that is almost untouched by most consumers due to unintuitive mechanics and unnecessarily complex control schemes.

The game is fun to play and based on the rock-paper-scissors dynamic of fighting games while allowing players to react to WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SEE HAPPENING ON SCREEN, not rote memorization of frame data. ARMS is played in three dimensions and attacks can come from anywhere. To me that sounds like an environment where a huge amount of situations can occur and need to be reacted to in real time. To suggest this is lacking depth is really not logical at all.

It's not fucking fun for a normal person to play a game where they lose because they didn't know that a specific character is arbitrarily invincible to projectiles on a specific frame of one specific move. Only autistic people enjoy this. It's not good game design and there is a reason why fighting games fail to reach a wider audience. If this is your idea of "depth" then "depth" is fucking shit and shouldn't be in the game at all.
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>>379404443
>Console war shit
One day you'll grow up and act like an adult.
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>>379404474
Why do you think everyone ignores Sonygros?
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is good game
why you heff to be mad
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>>379404443
For Nintendo babies its deep. Remember Pokken?
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As always /v/'s ability to simultaneously disregard review scores and wave them around like the word of god never fails to astound me.
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>>379404672
All /v/ does is whine about everything. Get used to it.
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>>379404429
You're right, a Skyrim clone with Ubisoft towers, weapons that break after 5 hits and no soundtrack is the superior choice, if you're a developmentally repressed manchild who can only appreciate games when they've been dumbed down to the fundamentals and glossed over with a cartoony coat of paint
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>>379404739
See? >>379404743
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>>379404743
Is this irony because I'm not getting it to be honest
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>>379404743
>if you're a developmentally repressed manchild who can only appreciate games when they've been dumbed down to the fundamentals
Is that why you like Nier?
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>>379401424
See that little green box? That means its good.
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>>379404503
>arms has depth because it has 2 or 3 mechanics!!!!!! just imagine post-release it may have 5 mechanics
wow..... truly the virtua fighter of the modern age..... dare i say it even contains,,,, "Super Limb Based Combat"
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>Nintendo fans falseflagging again
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>>379404743
I actually feel sorry for Sonyfags who actually believe BoTW is a bad game, they really have no idea what they're missing.
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>>379404417
>"w-who cares about MC?"
Nintendo cares
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>>379404937

What would you add to the game to make it deeper?
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>>379404743
Still better than Bore Automata
>in a story focused game the characters suck, 9S is a whiny bitch the whole way and whines even in death
>A2 and 2B (E) are all underdeveloped
>no fucking banter
>open world is literally barren, and finished off with a drab art style with few interesting and varied locations
>literally no banter between characters
>hacking
>oh my god hacking fucking sucks. Fuck 9S
>full of gimmick sections like those 2D parts which are awful
>route B is literally a retread of route A, and after that the routes end too fast
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>>379402221
Never trust IGN. Always go by the Metacritc user reviews. IGN factors politics into their reviews.
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>>379404743
what fucking game are you talking about?
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>>379404534
>allowing players to react to WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SEE HAPPENING ON SCREEN

a game where everything is avoidable on reaction is garbage
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>>379405198
Horizon.
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>>379404534
>they lose because they didn't know that literally every super can counter fireballs
They only have to make the mistake once, then they know to almost never throw a fireball at someone that has full meter. Is this supposed to be a deal breaker? Or are you crying about reflect specials and superarmor too?
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___ does ___ AND its ____

Why the fuck does every article have a title like this?
It sounds so fucking stupid an unoriginal
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>>379401417
>Tons of good reviews
>Couple of dumbasses who don't like fighting games decide to review a fighting game anyway and give it a low score
Thus a 78
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>>379404743
lol i bet you watch SBH unironically, too
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>>379405010
But I played BotW. It's a painfully average open world game. You just think it's great because it's the only one you've ever played
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>>379405119
>85+
lmao nintendo sure moved the goalposts for that one. how long before they start listing 65+ games?
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>>379401107
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>>379403946

>NO IGNORE THE PEOPLE WHO PRAISEIT
>BETTER FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE WHO HATED IT

Mindset like an ape
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>>379405263
ah
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS NOT FAIR BROS ARMS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOTY BUT IT ONLY GOT 78 WHY WHY WHY WHY THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE SWITCH WHY IS THE SCORE SO LOW
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>>379405276
>dumbasses who don't like fighting games decide to review a fighting game
but I thought ARMS was the Mario Kart of racing games?
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>>379404287
it did get Botw, a 97. We both agreed that score mattered, right?
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>>379405205

I'm not even sure how you managed to get that out of my post, congrats on being retarded though.
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>>379405195
How the fuck does politics factor into an arms review
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>>379405151
Forgot:
>sidequest are 90% shit
>difficulty levels are totally fucked
>combos are simple and require little skill
>DODGE DODGE DODGE
>dialogue is cringe as hell
>"""Romamce"""" between 9S and 2B sucks

Nier shares some of it's flaws with BOTW as well, namely sidequests and difficulty, but Nier's combat system (which is the sole focus of the game) is not nearly fun or varied enough to carry it through the game
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It's okay but nothing special.
Gonna buy it for 20 bucks or so.
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>>379405326
>Moved the goal posts for that one

What does this even mean? I don't think you understand that phrase.
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>>379405318
>You just think it's great because it's the only one you've ever played

I've played Zelda 1 though
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>>379404417
i'm exposing the sony pony lunacy and double standards anon.
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>>379405478

>He thinks First Party Nintendo games drop in price

LOL the only priice drop Nintendo games have is when the curent console is replaced by their new console

Now you can get Wii U games pretty cheap
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>>379405448
>We both agreed that score mattered, right?
You tell me
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>>379405426
Why do you think ARMs is a racing game?
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>>379405332
78 is about right.

The game seems pretty good but a little light on content. So 78 for base seems appropriate kinda like Splatoon. But the Devs have commited to keep adding to the game for a while with new characters and arms and modes and shit.

Played about 6 hours on the demo and it made me want to buy the game. I honestly had zero intention of getting the game before playing it. So I'm excited for the 16th!

Bing bing wahoo let's take up arms!
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>>379405609
What is this supposed to show. That GTAV is good? Sure I can agree. GTA4 is better than both BotW and V though
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>>379405465
IGN are fucking sell outs my guy
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>>379405426
who said that?
If anything, it takes more skill than most fighting games. You can't just mash buttons and win
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>>379405619
Maybe he things ARMS has something to do with an Arm's race
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>>379405609
i didn't, simple aquiescing that metacritics matters, unless it doesn't.
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>>379405506
I am sorry that the idea of "moving the goalposts" is a complicated concept to you but for adult discussion it's not necessary to explain it in detail. Since when was 85+ seen as the pinnacle of metacritic and worth bragging about? Nintendog execs had to set the bar a lot lower otherwise that image would look a total mess

>Wii U games with 90+ = 1
>3DS games with 90+= millions
>Hey gamers remember to buy a 3DS and maybe buy a Wii U to use a door stop because it has no good games
Really wouldn't look so hot
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>>379405804
haha what a gay
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>>379405575
>>He thinks First Party Nintendo games drop in price
They do, very often in fact. The only ones that don't drop are the limited print games.
Then there are also the Nintendo Select games and the discounts on My Nintendo.
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>>379405473
>Nier's combat system (which is the sole focus of the game) is not nearly fun or varied enough to carry it through the game
You're really going to complain about Platinum combat next to BotW which has probably 1/10th of complexity? It's just button mashing. That's why drones love BotW. It lets them appreciate a cartoony open world and the only thing they have to do is mash the B button and pause the game to heal. On a board that so highly praises gameplay, BotW's is uttery trash. Its redeemable quality is the finely crafted world you can explore, but the overall experience is average at best because it's boring as fuck.
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>>379405619
>Mario Kart is a casual kids racing game for people who don't like hardcore simulation or arcade racing
>ARMS is a casual kids beat em up for people who don't like fighting games
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>>379405804
>Since when was 85+ seen as the pinnacle of metacritic and worth bragging about?
For as long as Metacritic existed?
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>>379405998
>le mandela effect tinfoil hat timeline theory time
laffo @ ur life
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>>379405709
>What is this supposed to show
For every 1 person claiming BotW is game of the decade, there are 10 more that would claim GTAV is. And you wouldn't have metascores as a defense because they have the same score.

At the end of the day, you're going to have to accept that your opinion is subjective and other people have different ones. Titles like "game of the decade" inherently imply objectivity, where there is none to be found.

A review is nothing more than a glorified opinion. A metascore is an average of such opinions.

What is it about people with autism that they can't accept that opinions will never be objective?
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>>379405804
For nitnendo to have "moved the goal posts" on metacritic ratings they would have had to have had a previous stance that they changed.

You're so fucking stupid you don't understand the context of the phrase you use and then be a stuck up pretentious cunt about.

Probably a massive Sony fanboy too kek
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Guys I'm at the offices in metacritic and Kimishima is here with his Yakuza friends and he wants us to delete all lukewarm reviews please send help
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>>379405932
>automata
>platinum combat

wha

it barely plays any differently than nier 1, but i guess platinum ghost-developed that, right?
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>>379405996
Haha no Anon, my point was you used the phrase wrong.
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>>379405804
You realise that 85+ is the bar that everyone starts at, right?
Nintendo isn't the first company to start there
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>>379402221
>>379401417
>>379401424
Reminder
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>>379406136
>nitnendo
>IMG
>reddit spacing
LITERALLY foaming at the mouth and shaking with uncontrollable rage. Someone put this Nintendog down, he's got a bad case of the fanboy rabies.
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>>379406194
>it barely plays any differently than nier 1
Wrong
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>>379406194
I haven't played Nier.

Automata is clearly a Platinum game. Once you get the overclock mod, it's basically Bayonetta. You probably played the demo and made your entire judgement based on that
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>>379406218
That is honestly the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.
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Do you retards really have to do this every time a game comes out?
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>>379405998
>>379406205
The funniest thing is even if Nintendo lower the bar for meta score it also lowers the bar for the other companies also in the comparison. And they still have more. So he's just blowing himself the fuck out even harder.
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>>379406263
Why is that Reddit spacing? Posts have been like that since before Reddit was a meme here.
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>>379401107

The consensus I'm hearing is that the game controls unintuitively no matter your input style. Motion controls are wonky because you can punch faster than your character can because you don't have spring arms. Pro controls are wonky and make certain attack types harder to pull off.

>>379402062

Good that Sonybros realize it. Now if only everyone else would realize it and stop crucifying Xbox/Playstation/PC games that get sub-90 scores.
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>>379406309
>>379406218
i dont keep with up with pokemon dungeon games. Whats the deal with this?
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>>379406121

>GTAV
>Game of the decade

Nah, it was honestly a step down from GTA4 imo
>Singleplayer just isn't fun to replay
>Physics are somehow less impressive than 4's
>Cops kill any fun you might be having
>Driving physics are the polar opposite of 4's, being too tight
>Online is trash, where they expect you to pay real money for cars/guns/property, or spend dozens of hours grinding.


Not even saying BOTW is game of the decade, just saying that GTAV is over rated as fuck (still fun tho)
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>>379406323
This is neo-/v/.
Unless it's a Sony game it's going to have massive amounts of hate.
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>>379406263
>Calls double spacing "reddit"

Someone has never had any higher education lol
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>2006
>8.8 is seen as a huge disgrace, Nintendo HQ in full on panic mode, american Nintendo fanboys commit mass suicide

>2017
>78 (7.8) is seen as a grand victory and a timeless classic reaches legendary status as the GOAT game of all time

whoa...............
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>>379406453
Have you ever even been in a sony game thread
It's the same shit there
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>>379406267
>>379406295
have i found the only two people on the planet who actually enjoyed this piece of shit's gameplay?

don't get me wrong, i'm glad i finished the whole thing because i liked the story quite a bit, but i would be lying if i said i wasnt sick of the combat by the end of route B. everything leading up to the tower and the tower itself are fucking miserable to play through, and i wouldn't have bothered if it wasnt for the story.
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>>379406218
Oh god I had actually forgotten this review.

Sky was one of the best Pokemon games, period, and I am actually going to start a new game in it now.
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/v/ is always wrong
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>>379406520
The context is a massively hyped established all time legendary franchise versus a new ip
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>>379406323
We GAF/reddit/9gag now baby every other website treats this shithole as a dumping ground
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>>379406550
I didnt say it was good. The combat is different in automata which is a good thing. It's much worse in nier
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>>379406520
Retard.

Yes that's you, retard

W/hy are you retarded ?
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>>379406626
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>>379406403
>The consensus I'm hearing is that the game controls unintuitively no matter your input style.
Consensus doesn't mean minority anon.
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>can't start the game and immediately go online
>have to beat the shitty "arcade mode" firsf
>have to earn enough coins to unlock the store
>single player content is barely there
It's neat to see this thing getting praised for shit that Tekken 7 and SFV are taking hot Ls for
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>>379406712
>Reddit spacing
Post & opinion discarded.
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>>379404184
>bitching about lack of content
>plays >>demo<<
>feels confirmed on lack of content

ahahahahahaha you must be fun at parties
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>>379405389
>Tripfag
*yawn*
"opinion" discarded
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>>379406425
GTAV is for controller drivan GTAIV is for MKB drivan
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>>379406884
What? Even the positive reviews mention lack of content as a negative
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>>379405423
why bother posting like this
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>>379406701
at least you can admit that. that other dude actually claimed it was like bayonetta. that's literal insanity.
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>>379406769
>This one guy that mentions goalposts in every thread in the wrong context.

I just KNOW it's the same guy every time.
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>>379406845
The difference is that the DLC is free kiddo.
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>>379406997
>other people said it
>must be true

ugh, the drones of /v/.
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>>379406849
you
retarded =yes
why?
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>>379407035
it's called Irony, you wouldn't get it.
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quote from the gamespot review:

>Its barrier to entry is unlike anything else in the genre, but it's one worth tackling in order to get at the game's fascinating take on fighting.
has this person never played a fighting game before? The genre is known for high learning curves.
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>>379407232
There won't be enough content to string you long until that "free" dlc comes
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>>379406845
>Actually wanting shitters to jump straight online

If I had my way every single fighting game ever would make you have to prove you know what the fuck your doing before you can go online. Either by beating arcade mode like this or by passing some sort of exam showing you know how to play.
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>>379407232
Not him but i dont see what that has to do with anything he said
>kiddo
Woah careful there Edgelord
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>>379407321
what does it do to enrich your life?
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>>379405423
>It was supposed to be GOTY

No. That was this, anon.
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>>379407351
Different doesn't mean harder. Undoubtedly every reviewer is playing it with motion controls like it's designed
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>>379407457
yes
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>>379407372
>"free"
So, what, DLC that you pay no additional fees for suddenly isn't free?
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>>379407387
This post has to be falseflagging
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>>379407372
So did you just not play Splatoon?
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Keep in mind the site that helped fuck up ARMS' metacritic by giving it a 50 has an iffy track record for reviews. Basically gave every big game a 100 in the past,even skyward sword. Also the reviewers reasoning for a 50 is like "good game but i suck at 2v2, 3 for all, and 4 for all so it sucks."
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>>379406769
>you said something I didn't like
>that means you moved goal posts lol CD
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How do reviewers accurately rate a game that relies heavily on a good online multiplayer before it's come out?
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>>379407582
He's not wrong, ever since online gaming became commonplace there are people who just jump online and ruin the fun for everyone in some way.
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>>379407634
Nintendo enthusiast gave it a 75 which is lower than the Meta

Nintendo couldn't pay everyone off this time.
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>>379407583
sony ponies got defective brain, and are literally unable to spot the pattern at play here.

I'm surprised that we don't have dicks and crow 2.0 yet
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>>379407731
Same way they rated Overwatch that has no single player content.
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>>379407387
>beat marvel 3 arcade mode multiple times
>still get rekt by wesker may cry teams
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>>379407736
>ever since online gaming became commonplace there are people who just jump online and ruin the fun for everyone
How? Also practice mode exist in games
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This thread reeks of angry nintendo fanboys from reddit. So much confusion and anger at the regular style of posting found on 4chan.. whatever happened to lurking before you post? Did someone link this thread in some nintengroid discord or fansite?
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>>379407731
If your game requires other people to play, it deserves a lower score

A game should entertain me, not the other people who play it
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>>379401107
>arms is deep, challenging and essential.
was this review written by polygon?
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>>379407041
Are you blind? He claimed that the combat in Nier: A was like bayonetta not the combat in the first nier
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>>379401107
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SONY ALWAYS WINS

STOP MAKING MORE ESPORTS GAMES NINTENDO!

MUH CALL OF DUTY FIFA IS SUPERIOR
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>>379404534

You just described DOA and no one played that game for more than a few weeks.
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>>379407912
>b-but reddit!

every time
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>>379407945
Clickbait. They're all like this.
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>>379407903
>How?
Because they just jump online without learning how to play.

>Also practice mode exist in games
Do you honestly believe that anyone but hardcore players actually use practice and training modes?
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>>379407993
Yeah, literally every shit thread is guaranteed to be flooded with redditors. How do we effectively drive them off? Ban all Nintendo discussion?
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>>379407945
It was written by Nintendo.
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>>379407387
>>379407736
It's a fucking "fighting" game not a team based fps who fucking cares if people are terrible they can only learn from taking a loss. The game won't teach you enough to even be 10% good anyway
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>>379408042
>Because they just jump online without learning how to play.
And how does that ruin online experience for everyone?
>Do you honestly believe that anyone but hardcore players actually use practice and training modes?
I always use it when trying a new fighting game and im not a pro
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>>379408142
you'd like that wouldn't you you terminally assblasted sonyfriend
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>>379401417
And dropping.
The game is mediocre just like many people knew it would be.
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What does it mean by deep? Nintendo definition of ''deep'' gameplay is very much different from actual deep fighting games that take time to learn.

I bet I can learn how to play this arms shit in less than 2 days. Im sticking to Tekken.
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>>379407583
That's because they can count on their fans to stick with something that's gonna be not great at the start which is terrible
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>>379406323

How new are you?
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>>379402221
78
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>>379408042
Who the fuck doesn't use practice and training mode?
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>>379408220
>And how does that ruin online experience for everyone?
Have you ever played a game with someone who doesn't know how to play it and has no intention of learning?
>I always use it when trying a new fighting game and im not a pro
Congrats, you're higher on the rung than a casual.
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>>379406453
People never have anything positive to say about Sony or a Sony game. Stop trying to push this fictional narrative
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>>379405451
how about the
>allowing players to react to WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SEE HAPPENING ON SCREEN
part lmao
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>>379405423
Already got the game of the year, just looking for more fun stuff to play
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>>379408527
>People never have anything positive to say about Sony or a Sony game.
Yeah because the constant streams of Sony wank here are totally negative.
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>>379408448
>Have you ever played a game with someone who doesn't know how to play it and has no intention of learning?
Yes any team based FPS, ARMS or any fighting game is not that this guy >>379408175
is right, you're being an idiot
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>anytime a fighting game comes out that isn't a street fighter clone all the fighting fags come out of their containment threads

Capcon will keep shitting out street fighter games so why does it matter if nintendo tries a fighting game that's not about memorization?
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>>379408448
>Have you ever played a game with someone who doesn't know how to play it and has no intention of learning?

No, because these people tend to lose a lot and don't get matched with me. If you only play vs shitters, then you are the shitter
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dis is goood
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>>379407387
you can beat most fighting games on any difficulty by spamming throw
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>>379401424
>Reviews don't matter
>Except when they do
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>>379408793
Nintendo 2017
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>>379406849
This has got to stop.
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>>379408864
you can beat most human opponents in fighting games by spamming throws
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>>379401107
>the reviewers I tend to align my taste with say its been 8 and 9 out of 10
Sounds about right. I wouldn't be surprised if the metacritic rises once all the free DLC starts dropping.
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>>379408951
>makes reddit shitpost with no argument
>its the rest of us calling out your shitpost that have to stop
back2reddit with you
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>>379408951
It won't, it's basically how the younglings counter an argument. If it has any degree of proper structure then it's not a real argument to them.
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>>379407921
>I hate this multiplayer game that everyone else loves. Which means it's a bad game for not entertaining me
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>>379408651
Show me some legit Sony wank I'll wait, it's 99% falseflagging. Also a thread about a game getting announced for ps4 isn't Sony wank it's just news so look hard
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>>379409132
how does this post >>379406712 not a shitpost?

feel free to explain that
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>tfw no more comfy ARMS threads
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>>379409132
>>>/r/atheism
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>>379406409
Reviewers despise the Mystery Dungeon series for no good reason at all, I don't believe the games have ever received past an 80 on metacritic.

But with Explorers of Sky in particular, that game is widely considered the best in the MD franchise and genuinely an insanely good game, so that score is retarded.
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>>379403852
you mean this isn't an established genre that they're revolutionizing here?
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>>379409013
Maybe stop playing against your normalfags noob friends.
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>>379409292
>muh muh safe space
>muh comfy buzzword
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>>379409438
I would if Tekken could fucking connect.
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>>379401557
Splatoon is overrated by bored fans.
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>>379409159
I just feel like games have evolved past the point where seeing which player wins in a fighting contest has stopped being entertaining
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>>379409537
>console version
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>>379409512
>>muh muh safe space
how the fuck did you get that from his post?

he just wants more arms threads god damn.
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>>379406295
>basically Bayonetta
I loved Automata but come the fuck on, you can't be this delusional.
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>>379409438
most people are normalfag noobs
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>>379401557
Splatoon wasn't that good definitely wasn't good enough for Nintendo to act like there will be splatoon esports teams
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>78
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>>379409537
I would gift you the PC version if you can run it
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>>379409581
"he" (you) wants to discuss arms without any criticism in a comfy safespace of ninteno fanbois only
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As someone who is incredibly excited for ARMS, honestly, it deserves at the very least above a 70 and no higher than an 85. It really doesn't have that much content and it's exactly like Splatoon over again, which isn't a bad thing.

There's just not enough content for someone to give it an incredibly high score, so it's understandable.
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>>379409716
>"he" (you) wants to discuss arms
sure

>without any criticism in a comfy safespace of ninteno fanbois only
how did you get this from the post?
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>>379409687
No gift it to me.
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You're not allowed to say that the score is wrong or that the game journos "didn't get it" because otherwise you're nullifying the scores they gave BOTW.

Boy, it must suck when you put faith in this crooked industry.
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>>379409776
He doesn't understand that discussion can take place without shitposting.
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>>379409561
I have really come to enjoy multiplayer games just because all the rounds feel like a different game to me, and I like getting better at the game and beating other people. But I understand completely. I've been playing a lot of Sombra in overwatch, and the amount of people that will go into legit screaming fits over it is astounding.
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>>379409687
On the slim chance that this isn't a joke I'd say give it to this anon >>379409862
I'm not the original anon that replied and I basically bought the game to git gud at game days with friends because it's the one game I get left out on because I was never a big Tekken player.
Not until SFV turned me off at least now I'm looking to get some of the older games
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>>379409726
>it's exactly like Splatoon over again, which isn't a bad thing.
How is releasing unfinished games not a bad thing?

Because that's exactly what they're doing. The additional content coming in the following months isn't free. You paid for it. You paid for it *early* I might add. This is basically the equivalent of Nintendo doing early access.
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>>379401107
It's more of a twist on virtual on than a fighting game(though some people call VO style stuff fighting games I guess).
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>>379410140
>How is releasing unfinished games not a bad thing?
Does it matter if it's "unfinished" if all of the additional content if free and the game already plays well?
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>>379410140
since when is nintendo adding extra content FOR FREE after the release of a game bad?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO
ARMS WAS SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE SWITCH!!!
Now nintendo is fucking doomed...sonybros wins...
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I'm alright with that score.
Played 6 testpunches after being hyped for the game and ended up being less hyped.

It's somewhat fun and all, but I hate all modes other than 1v1 and there's not enough to the game depth-wise to make me feel like I wouldn't be bored of it within a few weeks tops.

So I'll pass for now, but I might pick it up later when they added a lot to it.
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>>379410140
How is it unfinished? You realize the content they release later isn't on-disc when you buy you fuck. It is free, you retard.
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>>379410285
>(you)
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>>379410243
>Hating brown wiafu's on /v/
Boy you're on the wrong board
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>>379407912
>regular style of posting found on 4chan

Thinly veiled false flags with crying wojaks like >>379405423 and >>379407527 weren't "regular" until 2015. Maybe (You) are the redditor that didn't lurk.
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>>379410225

Why am I paying full price for content that MIGHT come later? They should've given me the game at 90% discount and then apologized for releasing a half-baked piece of crap. I will no longer tolerate companies thinking they can ask for money first and then hopefully deliver the game whenever they feel like it. Steam greenlight already pissed me off beyond all hope there.
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>>379407634
>good game but i suck at 2v2, 3 for all, and 4 for all so it sucks
to be fair 2v2 and 1v1v1 are fucking anti-fun, worst game modes that aren't silly minigame shit
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>>379405269
"Zelda does Link and its hot"

Sounds like a pretty good title if you ask me.
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>>379410413
>that WILL come later?
ftfy

>I will no longer tolerate companies thinking they can ask for money first
Yeah because Nintendo is the first company you should attack for that when they're giving you the additional content for free regardless of if you think it's unfinished or not.
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>>379410285
>>379410357
Both of you need to do a world a favor and drink bleach
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>>379410357
>(You)
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>>379401107
Haha nice damage control.
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>>379410413
>releasing a half-baked piece of crap.
You keep on saying it's unfinished but what exactly does that word mean to you?
Because I don't think it adheres to the real definition.
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>>379410413
The reason content is slowly rolled out is to INCREASE value to the general playerbase, you fruit. By having consistent updates, Nintendo is able to ensure that the game sees steady player numbers over a longer period of time, which is good for (you), not just them.
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>>379410548

>that WILL come later?
Nah anon. No company will ever get that benefit of the doubt. They're all lying crooks and scumbags, so they have to earn my trust as a customer.

>Yeah because Nintendo is the first company you should attack
All of them get flak regardless. Nintendo does not get a pass because you think they somehow "did it right".

And they didn't even do it right. Look at Splatoon. 2 years later, and the game STILL isn't finished. It doesn't have a single player mode that isn't purile garbage, and that's what I've been waiting for, but I guess Nintendo doesn't care. So the game promptly went into the trash, as will Arms.
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>>379410667
>(me)
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>>379410296
>>379410274
When the game is fucking sparse as fuck?
No. The additional content isn't "free". You bought an unfinished game and they delivered the rest of the game to you at a later date.
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>>379410285
>>379410357
>>379410667
>mfw it's a samefag trying to start fights
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>>379410636
Tell you what, how about we sit down, fire up Sonic 06, get some shot glasses and down a shot of bleach whenever it glitches out.
Sound good to you?
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>>379410724

For one, releasing without a single player that isn't retarded trash. I think that more than qualifies.

>b-but it's multiplayer-centric

Not an argument. Any game that focuses on multiplayer first is instantly Call of Duty or Street Fighter trash. And those shouldn't even be considered games.
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>>379410806
>When the game is fucking sparse as fuck?
proof?

the game isnt even out yet, and the FREE ONLINE DEMO they gave us is good so I don't know what else you want from a game that isnt even out.

you dont even get an offline demo most of the time nowadays, nintendo is one of the few companies to actually give out demos before release.
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>>379410730

>By having consistent updates, Nintendo is able to ensure that the game sees steady player numbers over a longer period of time,
That didn't work with Splatoon, whose playerbase is now dead. It won't work with Spla2n either, since it'll die out in less than a year, same with the first.

Maybe if it wasn't esport garbage, it might have better longevity.
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>>379410778
why in the fuck did you expect updates for the fucking singleplayer mode

it's better than most Ratchet & Clank games anyway so I dunno what your expectations are lmao
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>>379410998
Splatoon had an active playerbase until Splatoon 2 was confirmed, and that's for a console that sold like shit. You are talking straight of your ass. Holy fuck.
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>>379401107
The reviews are baffling, this game is barely a step up from Mario Ultra Tennis in terms of content.

The most perplexing reviews are the ones calling it anywhere near the best fighting game ever, or even this year. Maybe because it's more accessible to retards and is painted lots of nice nonthreatening colors?
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>>379410910

>the FREE ONLINE DEMO they gave us is good
Stopped reading there. I don't like having opinions forced on me.

>>379411045

>why in the fuck did you expect updates for the fucking singleplayer mode
Why does that matter? Are you saying games shouldn't have singleplayer?
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>>379410802
>(me)
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>>379411117
SEETHING
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>>379411116

>Splatoon had an active playerbase
No, it didn't. A year ago It took me ten minutes just to find a match, and it only spiraled downward from there. Meanwhile, Team Fortress 2 and Quake let me find matches instantly.
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>>379407945
weirder still how they keep saying the tiny roster is fine because "the characters are all so unique!" and then you can swap all their arms around so they're not unique at all
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>>379411126
>Stopped reading there. I don't like having opinions forced on me.
>getting triggered by facts
lmao you dont have an argument dumbass.

you just ignored the rest of my arguments too.
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>>379410910
>proof?
Literally every reviewer is saying it's lacking in content
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>>379411323

>getting triggered by facts
But that's not a fact. That;'s just your biased viewpoint.
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>>379410998
>That didn't work with Splatoon, whose playerbase is now dead.
Gee, maybe it has to do with the fact that the last event for the game was almost a year ago and people are gearing up for the release of Splatoon 2 on a console that's not fucking dead?

>>379411126
>Why does that matter? Are you saying games shouldn't have singleplayer?
Yo, this is some primo words-being-put-in-my-mouth. Am I talking to ACFag?
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>>379411126
>I don't like having opinions forced on me.
???????????????????? why the fuck are you on this board?
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>>379410778
>No company will ever get that benefit of the doubt.
And Splatoon wasn't clear evidence that a company is capable of doing such a feat? It started out in a similar way as Arms did and now it has a fuck ton of content.

At this point you're just complaining about it being "unfinished" solely to have something to complain about.

>All of them get flak regardless.
The problem here is that they're not getting ENOUGH flak anon. If you and everyone else who's currently hating the free update train put some effort into complaining about people like Capcom not only releasing unfinished and downgraded games but giving players the DLC at a price maybe you would make some significant headway. Instead you're barking at the people who's giving you content for no additional costs.

>It doesn't have a single player mode that isn't purile garbage
It's a shooter anon.
What Splatoon has surprisingly is more extensive than the others in terms of length although it doesn't feel that way because it's not padded with a ton of cutscenes.
In any case why were you expecting updates for a single player mode when the game is predominantly multiplayer? Did mommy set the security settings on your router too high so you can't play online?

> So the game promptly went into the trash
Which is why it still has a stable playerbase right?
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>>379406218
the overall score doesn't even make sense here, how can all of your criteria average out to 5.6 and then you still decide to rate it 4.9

IGN really is completely retarded goddamn.
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>>379403345
kys
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>>379411260
Sorry that your internet is shit. The game sold over 2 million for a reason, you're clearly lying.
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>>379411367
>reviewers say it so it must be true
>a free online demo of the game can lack content
ok

>>379411402
you can argue its a bad free online demo, but its still a free online demo that rarely anyone will give of their game which makes nintendo a better dev than 99% of devs out there who just release a bad game and take your money with no hope of a refund. see no mans sky.

and you still ignored the rest of my arguments
>>
The amount of asshurt this game is creating is incredible. Why does anyone give a flying fuck about review scores? The game had that free beta over a couple weekends where you could form your own opinion.
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>>379411232
>weeb
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>>379411583
Presumably most of the people arguing about review scores don't own a Switch at all.
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>>379410998
Splatoon had a consistently large fanbase up until they finished doing their online events a while ago. They went out on the "WHICH GIRL IS BEST?" fight that had a giant massive participant number.

Your revisionist history is pretty stupid.
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>>379411571
>reviewers say it so it must be true
There's something of a consensus. Are you implying they're lying?

Also who is talking about the demo? Reviewers reviewed the retail copy.
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>>379411583
>The game had that free beta over a couple weekends where you could form your own opinion.
sonygers dont own a switch, not sure why they even care as they have no chance of getting the game anyways
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>>379410636
Is there a blender big enough to fit in all the volumes of Bleach?
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>>379411583
>Why does anyone give a flying fuck about review scores?
Because towards the end of last gen review scores became just about everything.
And guess which fanbase latched on to them like a parasite and wouldn't shut up when one of their exclusives recieved praise?
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>>379411748
>There's something of a consensus.
>consensus of a group of people means its true
I bet you think global warming is real don't you faggot?

>Also who is talking about the demo? Reviewers reviewed the retail copy.
good for them, we're talking about the demo and the game WE ACTUALLY PLAYED.
>>
It got a 78! Blunder of the year!
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>>379401107
i used to love every game nintendo made until wii era and when they finally do new IPs, it's all this crapsaccharine nickelodeon stuff. they release a third person shooter and then refuse to have team chat because god help us, a child might hear a swear. now they think they're ready for FGC because smash community did all the work making a case for it as a sport and nintendo takes credit.

i just want another f-zero or something building on neglected high quality IPs they've already ignored for a decade. new IPs are good but people are not going to care about fucking ARMS or splatoon in 5 years.

nintendo used to be a company known for making games that aged incredibly well and every console had a good share of cherished and memorable games

not this shit
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>>379411805
>And guess which fanbase latched on to them like a parasite and wouldn't shut up when one of their exclusives recieved praise?
All of them?
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>>379411426

>Gee, maybe it has to do with the fact that the last event for the game was almost a year ago
Better games have far more life even with more retarded devs and update schedules.
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>>379411805
>And guess which fanbase latched on to them like a parasite and wouldn't shut up when one of their exclusives recieved praise?

I would have no idea because console wars are one of the most childish things a person could engage in. Drawing lines in the sand over video game allegiances is certifiably retarded.
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>>379411845
You sound really angry. Perhaps you should take a step back and realize this is just a video game
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>>379411671
Don't cry my sweet child only peace now
>fag
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>>379406218
>The music is ok
HOLD ME BACK
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>>379411896
>All of them?
Oh anon, you naive young man.

>>379411938
> console wars
At this point can you call it a console war?
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>>379411045
>it's better than most Ratchet & Clank games anyway
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>>379411503

>It started out in a similar way as Arms did and now it has a fuck ton of content.
No, it doesn't. Still no singleplayer = no content. i don't care about online in the slightest, since you asked me 60 dollars for the game, I demand a good singleplayer at least.

>The problem here is that they're not getting ENOUGH flak anon.
You don't know a single damn thing about me anon. I refuse to support a single Capcom product, I haven't bought a shooter or a fighter or a MOBA in decades because of these sickening practices. I'm sorry, but Nintendo doesn't get special treatment.

>Instead you're barking at the people who's giving you content for no additional costs.
That's because the base game is barebones and not fun in the slightest. This is just damage control of them trying to seem like they're being generous, when they're playing the customerbase like a fiddle. Tell you what, when they do this with EVERY SINGLE GAME in their library, then I'll believe you. That means they have to apologize for the season pass in BOTW, for example, then refund everyone, and never do that again in any capacity. Only then will I give Nitnendo a pass here.
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>>379401107
>[Noun] did [thing] and it's [positive adjective]

Why do all these articles that faggots screenshot all some the goddamn same? It's fucking annoying
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>>379412097
>Oh anon, you naive young man.
Huh?

I mean... I guess xbox fans don't really talk about their exclusives very much.... That might just be because there aren't many on here, though.
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>>379412193
>Still no singleplayer = no content.
Oh, It's ACfag

FALSE ALARM EVERYBODY
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>>379412247
clickbait articles.

jews need you to view their ads to buy their shit.
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>>379412113
thanks for noticing
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>>379411571

>but its still a free online demo that rarely anyone will give of their game which makes nintendo a better dev than 99% of devs out there
That's funny that this somehow makes up for them releasing a half-finished game with gimped online that you have to pay yearly for. How about not rushing the game out and finishing it so you don't have to finish it later?

>you ignored the rest of my arguments

Your arguments were "Nintendo has never ever done a bad thing in their entire history". Why the heck would I even give that acknowledgement?
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>>379412097
If you're trying to slyly imply that it's not a war because there's some clear winner, it's clearly a console war.

The fact that terms like "Sonyger" and "Nintenbaby" are still being thrown around is pretty clear evidence that there's still a retarded console war going on. It's almost embarrassing. How are people not just getting multiple systems at this point? If a system doesn't have stuff that appeals to you, don't buy it; there's no need for rampant shitflinging.
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>>379412392
>That's funny that this somehow makes up for them releasing a half-finished game with gimped online that you have to pay yearly for.
proof?

the game isnt out yet dumbass, shove that reviewer up your ass. shove all of them up your ass.

>Your arguments were "Nintendo has never ever done a bad thing in their entire history". Why the heck would I even give that acknowledgement?
source
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>>379412336
yeah dude I noticed that like ages ago when he started putting words in my mouth, you gotta watch for the signs
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>>379412336

>if you want a singleplayer, you're ACfag

What does this mean?
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>yfw nintendofags have to decide between
>metacritic scores dont matter! -> BotW is shit
>metacritic scores matter! -> arms is shit
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>>379405326
>lmao nintendo sure moved the goalposts for that one.
I dont think you understand how shitty this generation has been. We just started getting good games and we're four years in at this point.
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>>379412540
Wuh oh! There he goes again! Classic ACFag. Remember not to give him too many (you)s or he'll get fat!!
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>>379412575
or maybe metacritic scores arent correlated at all to whether or not a game is good.

good news sonyger, some of your games might actually be good!
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>>379412336

Anon, tell you what. I will leave this thread right now and not make a single post more if you can explain to me what I said that was so wrong. Explain to me why a 60 dollar game shouldn't have any singleplayer whatsoever.
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>>379412575
Eh, no one really cared about Metacritic scores to begin with.
When a good one crops up for any platform it's just a good excuse to shitpost to the Sonygros who would commit suicide over them.
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>>379401107
A fighting game is something where you invest a lot of time to become proficient. Who the fuck would invest even 100 hours into this piece of garbage?
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>>379412872
>>379412656

Are you having a stroke anon?
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>>379412885
it's not ARMS fault other games are so shit it takes 100 hours to start playing decently.
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>>379412946
?
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>>379412885
>Who the fuck would invest even 100 hours into this piece of garbage?
Someone who would want to invest a lot of time into a fighting game that's shit obviously.

Clearly it was designed for the FGC seeing as that's their best quality.
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Arms does have single player content, even Grad Prix is an arcade mode.
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>>379406218
>one of the best pokemon games of all time
>the best story in a pokemon game
>4.9

how
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>>379413248

That's not 60 dollars worth of content. I expect at least 1000 hours of enjoyment.
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>all these mad fgcucks

First, Smash becomes a big hit, then it gets into EVO, then Injustice becomes a big hit, then Pokken outsells sfV, and now this.

Are we in the age of blowing out FGCucks?
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>>379413359
Hey, it's more than Tekken.
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>>379406218
>Music is """""ok"""""


Go stick a thornbush up your dickhole ign.
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>>379411513
This

I know that people will say "NOT AN AVERAGE" all they want but it doesn't change the fact that there's no rhyme or reason to these numbers. A single bug caused Prey to fall from an 8 to a 4. These braindead retards don't understand video games or numbers, who the fuck hired them?
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>>379413512
SFV despite being putrid shit still has the most entrants.
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>>379412575
But ARMS doesn't have a shit score. It's good.
BoTW is just better.
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>>379413359
I don't think I've played a single game for 1000 hours.
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>>379413813

>Horizon is irredeemable garbage because it got an 89
>Arms is somehow GOTY behind Zelda despite getting 10 points lower
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>>379413914
Oh Horizon isn't garbage because of the score, it's garbage because it's a hilariously poorly made game.
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>>379413914
I really love the "thing someone else said is something the person I'm arguing with said for the sake of convenience" thing we do on /v/, that's really good
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>>379414027

>it's garbage because it's a hilariously poorly made game.
But it scored high with metacritic reviewers. So it objectively can't be bad.
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>>379406218
I love that these games are hated by everyone. It means I can ignore every last one of you plebeian assholes until the end of times.
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>>379413914
You must be confused anon. I never said anything about Horizon. I haven't played it. I would assume it's more good than it is bad based on what I've seen.

I can accept the score ARMS and BoTW got because they're both good in their own ways and I'm not insecure enough to think this needed an 85+ or deluded enough to think that it was going to score higher than Splatoon 1 which was way more accessible.
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>>379414150

>You must be confused anon. I never said anything about Horizon.
Sure you didn't anon. Those 5000+ threads arguing about how Horizon was BTFO by zelda? Totally didn't happen.
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>>379403345
Nintendo doesn't pay for reviews and never has. This is a fact and has been said in multiple journalist reviews. That's one reason why they all hate Nintendo, for Mario 3D World they gave them all free cat ears but no money.
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>>379414254
I said
I REALLY love how we do that thing, on /v/, where we say someone said something said by someone else for the sake of convenience

IDs when??
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>>379414254
>\V\ is one (1) person
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>>379414109
umm pretty sure that's not how it works, sweetheart
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>>379414495
By the way do we still have that appointment tomorrow?
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>>379414254
I wasn't around /v/ when either game dropped since I was avoiding any Zelda media at the time.

If /v/ did have an argument about Horizon getting BTFO'd I wasn't there for it. I'm speaking for myself, not anyone else. This is ignoring the fact that my point had nothing to do with Horizon and more to do with both ARMS and BoTW being good and that it's okay for one game to be better than the other.
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>>379406218
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>>379412885
There has never been a good fighting game. The whole genre is a load of complete crap.

It boggles my mind people have tournaments for this turd genre.
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>>379401107
I fucking hate that x and it's y clickbait formula
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>>379405423
why is wojack swole

and lactating
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>>379414560
yeah dude, do you have the stuff?
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>>379401417
>I refuse to play a game because metacritic and social acceptance.
>Also, I have no brain, and I'm a sheep.
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>>379411889
>Nintendo makes one of it's most sexy characters in YEARS
>crapsaccharine nickelodeon stuff

Huh?
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>>379414521
Not him but you're backpedaling on your own statements
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>>379414456
>>379414495
>>379414562

Always such a convenient defense, but I don't feel like humoring it anymore. You guys can claim that you had nothing to do with that shitposting, but here you still are calling people sony roaches because they don't like the game, and/or don't want to buy a Switch because of it. The evidence speaks for itself.
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>>379402221
>8/10
Try 5
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>>379412247
I reacted to the same thing. I thought it was a SJW way of saying things. Like, it's so often something like "women make up 90% of video game developers and that's great" or something
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>>379414819
not him no I'm not
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>>379414764
Twintelle's design is great but she doesn't carry the entire game on her own. She also seems weirdly out of place next to all the Disney-Pixar looking shit all around her.
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You kids need to think for yourselves.
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>>379414872
Not him but you are
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>>379414962
not even the anon he was replying to
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>>379414831
Yeah the single person that refused to git gud.
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>>379414825
why am I still giving you (You)s jfc I'm fucking addicted
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>>379415004>>379414962

hi guys im new here what's up
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>>379403345
You have to be paranoid and psychologically disturbed to honestly believe this.
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>>379414749
What stuff?
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>>379415015

You've yet to disprove my point. Why are you attacking people because they don't like the game?
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>>379415009
>one person. I counted at least 8 reviewers giving it under a 7.
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>>379415147
I JUST CAN'T HELP IT, YOU'RE SO GOOD. HAVE ANOTHER (YOU) MY LOVE
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AHM Is a Bad! game.

A bad, bad GAME!!!

Please dont buy it!
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>>379415172
Huh, the score went up.
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>>379415004
not that guy either
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>>379415129
for fucks sake, anon, you don't have the goddamn stuff? We talked about this yesterday
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>>379414831
This guy was trying to pretend the single player in ARMS not having any dumbass story mode like Injustice is a fucking bad thing.

We're at a point now where games like SFV can get away without having an arcade mode and when ARMS does it, it's now suddenly a fucking bad thing.
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>>379414825
I didn't mention sony once this entire thread.

>the evidence speaks for itself

You're hearing the voices in your head telling you shoot yourself with a coconut gun, schizoid
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>>379404534
t. casual basic bitch
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>>379415360

>We're at a point now where games like SFV can get away without having an arcade mode and when ARMS does it, it's now suddenly a fucking bad thing.
It IS a bad thing. The only problem here is that we should be penalizing more games for it. SFV is purile vomit because of it, Capcom doesn't get a pass.

>>379415394

>I didn't mention sony once this entire thread.
And the sony wojacks magically posted themselves, I guess?
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>>379415360
SFV got completely slammed when it released without the singleplayer mode, dude
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How reviews should be taken
>I'm interested I'm this game, but I should read these reviews to consider if it sounds worth it after analyzing the pros and cons various people find with it
How everyone takes reviews:
>Better scroll to the number and see if it matches up with how I wanted the game to turn out so I can shitpost about it.
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I wish Sony and the playstation brand was dead just so I can see who Nintendo fans would blame for every negative comment someone has about a Nintendo game
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>>379415537
Maybe I didn't word it correctly - ARMS is being blasted in the review for having a fucking 10-stage Arcade mode instead of a dumbass 2 hour story mode no one's going to return to.

>At the beginning, you pick one of the ten characters, then face off against the other nine in a combination of best of three matches and mini-games, and then you win. That is it. In this day and age, that’s just not good enough.

Literally what the fuck am I reading
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>>379415606
welcome to the most insecure consumer base in existence.
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>>379415360
SFV got shat on for having no single player mode... What drugs are you on?
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>>379401107
>Nintendo reinvents the fighting game (((and it's brilliant)))
>le diversity cast...and that's a good thing

Who could be behind this, I wonder?
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>>379411260
This is bullsquid in its purest form. Splatoon's lobby timer is 200 seconds, that means you disconnected at least 3 times... Which means if it's true, it's your shitty internet and not inability to find a match.
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>>379415537
I don't whoajack post because I'm not a redditor. Also, I love you don't care about the nintendo whoajacks
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>>379415780
>welcome to the most insecure consumer base in existence.
yeah, people who buy video games and don't play them are crazy
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>>379415653
>I wish Sony and the playstation brand was dead
Me too.
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>>379415785
People try to downplay the amount of shit SFV took when compared to another fighting game with a similar problem.
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>>379415749

How is that wrong? We should have something more fleshed out than that. If you can't be bothered, don't charge 60 dollars for your game.
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>>379416041
You love it through you're obsessed
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I don't really care. ARMS looks like a baby shovelware game. That's my decision of not touching it, no less that it's on the Switch. Sometimes you can just say fuck a game because it looks like trash. That's called not being a consumer sheep that has to buy everything.
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so can anyone who actually played this game tell me how it is?
opinion from someone who played other fighting games would be cool
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>>379415653
>implying they wont blame it on PC or Sega
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>>379415926

They're all cancer. Don't get me wrong.
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>>379416253
Even though I'm getting arms, I coudn't agree more. Didn't buy an xb1 for the same reason you said.
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>>379416313
Fun and fairly unique.

I feel like defensive options (largely dodges) are too strong right now, but it'll be easier to judge once the game is out.
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>>379414658
cattle hormones
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>>379415749
Injustice 2 is about to go down as the greatest fighting game of the year solely because of its story mode and that's not me praising it I'm just repeating the what reviewers and the general public have been saying. NRS has set the bar for better of worse for content fighting games should have. Look at how fucking much MIX sold and then look at how many people every touch online or he'll even did a single versus match. People are shitting on Tekken 7's story because it doesn't match MKX or Injustice
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If you are over 14 years old and enjoy Splatoon or Arms, you are basically a brony.

Enjoy.
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>>379416208
"Fleshed out" as in a 2 hour long movie you can just google on YouTube? This is why the Subspace Emissary was so fucking shit in Smash Bros. Brawl. No one wanted to play the thing if it weren't for the fucking cutscenes and even Sakurai realized that.

ARMS has plenty of modes and content that works just fine in single player. I'd welcome more modes but fuck this "fighting game needs a story" shit.
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>people thinking a game made for literal ten year olds has depth

When will people realize nintendo always make games tailored to kids and only kids. The only embarrassment in their circle is smash melee kept alive by a bunch of guys that wont grow up cause they cant be assed to play a game tailored to an older age group.
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>implying SFV got away with not having an arcade mode
That's some revisionist history
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>>379414754
>calling someone a sheep
>preordering every nintendo product out there
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>>379416253
>HURR DURR IF U LIEK GARM DAT I DUNT LIEK U R SHEEPLE

It's unbelievable how arrogant one can be to post someting like that. tip that fedora a bit harder.
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>>379416723
>Injustice 2 is about to go down as the greatest fighting game of the year solely because of its story mode
And people wonder why the FGC don't give a shit when game review embargos go up.
>SFxT still has an 84 on MC
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>>379416848
Well considering Street fighter is made for ten year olds but has depth....
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>>379415537
>being so autistic you can't imagine there are more than 2 people in the world
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>>379416778

>"Fleshed out" as in a 2 hour long movie you can just google on YouTube?
No, I mean a GOOD singleplayer. This is the mindset behind garbage like Metroid: Federation Force, where you think Super Metroid is a bad game because it doesn't have multiplayer. And I find that attitude disturbing.
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https://www.amazon.ca/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sr_bs_0_videogames_1

>ARMS is currently the No.1 best selling game on amazon

NO NO NO NO FUCK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING BROS
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>>379417047
The original Street fighter was made for everyone. Then when Capcom realized a competitive scene was sprouting around their game, they answered with balancing patches and adjustments, including keeping combos in the game. SF flourished cause of its tournament scene, and would have ended up just another game at the arcade. Nintendo specifically said they will not make Smash bros a competitive game, and all its changes have been to keep it as a kid's party game.
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>>379417110
>This is the mindset behind garbage like Metroid: Federation Force, where you think Super Metroid is a bad game because it doesn't have multiplayer
what the fuck kind of retarded leap of logic is this
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>>379416981
And people hate the fgc because they actually play the games
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>>379406263
Pathetic
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>>379417130
It's not hard to be the number one selling game in an era of one video game every couple of months
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>>379401417
friendly reminder that only reviewers that hate objectively good gameplay give it low numbers
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>>379403345
lol, of course
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>>379417237

why would you instantly assume that I want a 2 hour movie, when all I said was "I want a good singleplayer"? you make the massive leaps and complain when I make an assumption?
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>>379417130
>TWO GOOD SWITCH GAMES???
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>>379417325
Then I guess Uncharted has excellent gameplay and everyone who say so otherwise is must hate good gameplay
you fucking moron
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ITT: Sonybros are buttmad once again
the butthurt will NEVER EVER stop
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>>379415553
>>379415785
Not from the same site that shit on ARMS for lacking single player:
https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/street-fighter-v-review
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>>379416767
nice try lee
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>>379417472
Most reviewers are now indoctrinated to hate good gameplay, they also love cinematic experiences that play themselves
that was the point you crybaby
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What's with all these sonybros making constant ARMS threads to complain about it getting a pretty good score?
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>>379416778
>I'd welcome more modes but fuck this "fighting game needs a story" shit.

I hate "story mode" in fighting games, but it doesn't hurt to have some thematic elements and special endings for each character. I hope ARMS at least does this.
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>>379417591

Holy changing goalposts, batman!
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>>379417130
Oh wow a game that's coming out in the launch window of a console that only launched with 1 good game is gonna sell a lot. People are buying fucking anything just to have something to play just look at Disgaea 5 sales I love Disgaea but it got the launch boost
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>>379417478
>Sonybros are buttmad once again
>when this thread is mostly nintendorks tripping over their argument of 'reviews matter except when they dont'
Sure why not
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>>379417459
>two joycon
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>>379417435
What's so good about Injustice 2's single player other than it having a story mode with budget behind it's cutscenes? Literally the review criticizes ARMS for not having an Injustice 2-styled story mode.
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>>379417325
good is not objective
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>>379417613
>b-but Sony!!

every time
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>>379414254
You massive hypocrite. Did you somehow miss the 5000+ "Horizon the Zelda killer" shitposting threads? Or how that garbage was spammed relentlessly in every single BotW thread in the months leading up to its launch? The HZD people who just had to compare the two games brought it upon themselves.
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>>379417478
Point out the Sony fans in this thread you false flagging fat fuck
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>>379417756

>What's so good about Injustice 2's single player
Who the hell brought up Injustice? Why doesn't Arms have some kind of classic game mode where you can brawl your way through enemies, maybe like an arcade style beat-em-up but in 3D? Why is it so wrong to ask for something for my money?

>customers are entitled, they don't deserve to complain about products

Oh, okay Mr. Corporate shill.
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>>379417613
>78
>pretty good score
If any other game would've gotten that you would have all of /v/ calling it the blunder of the century
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>>379417613

>mfw it scored lower than Metroid: Other M
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>>379401417
Arms 2 will get 91 guaranteed.
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>>379417613
>78 means pretty good if it's a Nintendo game
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>>379402221
8.8
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>>379404628
Go back playing your citizen kane of gaming, that sure is deep enough.
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>>379418274
>78 means pretty bad if it's a Nintendo game
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>arbitrary number slapped on a game by some literally who with possibly shit taste is supposed to dictate what i like

you people are pathetic, on both sides. literally who gives a shit, if you like it play it if you don't then don't get it
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>>379417656
>comprehension of an 8year old
lol
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>>379418475
It is a mediocre score for any game regardless of who made it you braindead drone
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>>379405426
Literally nobody says this but shitposters and butthurt FGCucks who think anything that's not Capcom = not a fighting game.
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>>379401107
I havent read any reviews but I'm pretty sure the game is going to get docked a few points for the following.

Story mode, either it doesn't have one OR it has the barebones story mode of almost every fighting game where you pick a character, fight against the AI and beat the boss only to get a little drawing or a cutscene with a few lines of text.

I'm betting most reviewers are going to mention Mortal Kombat's or Injustice story mode about how good they are and that Arms should have had something similar.
>>
The problem with Arms is that they're treating it like a $60 game when it only has enough content to be $30 or less. Like, this game could literally be a Wii sports or 1-2 switch minigame.
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>Cover is a girl punching a dude

Nintendo knows how to sell a game to Americans.
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>>379418801
>1-2 Switch
Now that's a disaster rolled into a train wreck.
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>>379401945
Splatoon was a one gimmick shooter for people who hate shooters
It sold well because it was nintendo game and was able to reach out to people who normally would not buy a shooter.
ARMS is the same thing, a fighting game thats not really a fighting game.
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>>379418475
Is this how ninrendrones think?
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>>379418961
it's a cute party game
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>>379401557
Slaptoon is still garbage for babies
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>>379419208
Looks fun, but about half an hour of content for that.
>£40
Yeah maybe £20 or packaged with the switch.
Just waiting for a proper set of minigames like a Mario Party (≤8) or Warioware.
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>>379418601
it's really not. Look around for your favorite games. Plenty of them probably have sub-80 scores.
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>>379405998
>Since when was 85+ seen as the pinnacle of metacritic and worth bragging about?

when only 8 non-nintendo games this generation have gotten the same score
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>>379417896
>Why doesn't Arms have some kind of classic game mode where you can brawl your way through enemies, maybe like an arcade style beat-em-up but in 3D?
>what is 1vs100
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>>379401557
>>379401945
Is this what a passive-agressive anon with a pluckered anus looks like?
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>>379405465
Nigress represented: 9/10
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>>379417590
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>>379419738

>a gimmicky mode that pales in comparison to a dedicated, properly paced singleplayer

Not a replacement.
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Related
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>tfw I'll refuse to consider this game good, just like how I hate Zelda, if it sells too much

I'm sorry /v/, but I can't stand normies, and I wont' share in their tastes.
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>>379417915
This.

If Sony or Microsoft released a hyped up game that got a 78, this board would be ripping that game to shreds. But since it's a Nintendo game, 78 is now a great score.
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>>379401107
>Nintendo reinvents anything
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>>379419856
What is a "beat 'em up mode" built out of a game made as a 1v1 fighter if not a "gimmick" mode?
Tekken 6 tried the same shit and it was a gimmick there too.
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>>379419679
>Look around for your favorite games. Plenty of them probably have sub-80 scores.
>MGS3 - 91
>BB - 92
>DK Dont Freeze - 83
>Super Mario Galaxy -97
Looks like you just dont know how to value your time anon and need to step the fuck up
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>>379420010
Nintendo released a game with 98% and it was and STILL is lambasted here on 4chan.

no matter what you say, every single video game gets shitposted no matter if it got a good score or not.
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Do you recognize yourself?
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>>379405609
Gta v is better than botw. Guess reviewers are sometimes right
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>>379420105

The game should be built around singleplayer first, then alter it for multiplayer applications. Not the other way around, as Arms fails at. For what other purpose would I pay 60 dollars?
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>>379420373
>The game should be built around singleplayer first, then alter it for multiplayer applications.
Says who?
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>>379420221
Do you sonybros just go around posting this on every nintendo thread? It's getting old.
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>>379420221
Oh no, a badly drawn strawman MS paint comic, how can other arguments even compete?
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>>379420486
>Most reviews before launch and assumed patches would fix things day one
>User reviews
Let's watch the user reviews tank ARMS first before comparing games in two different genres.
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>>379420675
I don't think you read the picture right.
Hint: Nintendo fans don't call other people babies
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>>379420602

Says me, Mr. Tax Paying customer.
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>>379420753
I can make a well drawn comic in Photoshop, would that work? Also what argument are you referring to?
Anyway I'll take that as a yes
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>>379420373
>The game should be built around singleplayer first, then alter it for multiplayer applications.
Are you fucking dense?
Since when is any fighting game built around single player first? They never fucking are. Some games might be good at hiding the fact but these kinds of games are almost entirely built for throwing down against other people and has always been a multiplayer-first genre.

If you don't want to pony up cash for a game that's multiplayer focused that's fine but fuck outta here with that doo doo.
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>>379421023

>Are you fucking dense? Since when is any fighting game built around single player first? They never fucking are.

And guess which genre is right below visual novels in terms of quality, or lack thereof?
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>>379406218
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNRELATED PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GENERESSSSS! REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
PMD series are bad games tho.
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>>379421142
MOBAs
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>>379421142
>fighting games are built around single player!
>no they're not
>lol who cares they're shit XDD
wow
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>>379421360

>fighting games should be based around singleplayer
>they're not
>that's why they're shit

ftfy
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>>379417556
>two different people have different opinions on two different games
nigga...
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>>379421441
>they're shit
>no they're not
>oh you're right, I'm just retarded
ftfy
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>>379420927
no, that would imply you care enough to put effort into it and that automatically makes you the loser of any argument
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Clicked this thread for angry fighting game fans. Wasn't disappointed.
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>>379421441
>multiplayer focus is bad because I say so
wow... really makes u think...
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>>379421441
>Should be based around singleplayer
So you're hating on multiplayer because it reminds you of human contact too much?
Get some friends faggot and enjoy games in company.
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>>379421564
you didn't answer to my other question
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>>379421142
Hang on a second though, visual novels are entirely single player focused. By your logic they should be above everything.
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who else here to fill out their /filter/ ?
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Haha the anti-nintendo circle jerk is so sad here. Kill yourselves 4channers :)
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>>379421579
>>379421572
>>379421521

>literally bandwagon fallacy
>"everyone likes it, so you must be an autismo with no friends"

LITERALLY the same defense used in the Ps4's marketing threads. Congrats, you've proven that console warriors are all cut from the same 30 FPS cloth.

>>379421760

Visual novels are objectively better than all multiplayer games, true, but they'rer weaker than better singleplayer games.
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>>379417478
Sony always wins baby
We have more consoles sold than you could ever hope to achieve.
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Anyone remember the name of that site that shows Japanese pre-orders? I've been looking for it because I'm curious to see how ARMS is doing but I can't fuckin' remember the name
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>>379421753
too much effort. loser
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>>379421468
>Our review process includes double standards
Really fries my cannoli.
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>>379405195
>metacrtiic user reviews
>>379408750
it doesnt satisfy my autism
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>>379421884
you mean comg? arms is 6th in those preorder charts
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>>379421837
>Objectively better than all multiplayer games
So you personally dislike multiplayer, because your opinion on multiplayer games in general doesn't seem that unanimous.

Hell I really liked some novels like the Grisaia series but sitting down to play some old Battlefront 2 with some friends is a blast as well. They both have their own good points but maybe you need to express yourself in /jp/ or a /vnvg/ where you can continue a circlejerk.
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Can this be an ARMS thread? Or how long will this shitposting last?
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>>379421884
There is no single site that shows Japanese pre-orders. What you're thinking of is stores that show their respective pre-order points like Comgnet and Tsutaya.

ARMS currently has 35 points at Comgnet but those numbers go up much more closer to release, especially now that the advertising push is happening in Japan (subway billboards, Famitsu ads, TCMs etc.). Splatoon ended up at around 138 the day it released, but again, that's just one store.

On Amazon Japan, ARMS is #4 in the best selling video games behind only Splatoon 2 and Dragon Quest XI.
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>>379418571
>Your post is bad because of this reason.
>lol your 8
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>>379401107
>fighting game
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>>379422215

>So you personally dislike multiplayer, because your opinion on multiplayer games in general doesn't seem that unanimous.
Oh no, I have hard facts to back up what I say. Without a good singleplayer, a game just becomes used up rubbish and relies solely on its multiplayer scene for anyone to consider it good. What happens when people stop playing it? It dies. Whereas a good singleplayer experience would help the game live on through various multiple playthroughs.
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>>379422680
>. Without a good singleplayer, a game just becomes used up rubbish
>hard facts
wew lad
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>>379422439
Yeah I've pretty much been checking out every online outlet that has sales rankings. I'm really curious to see how it does
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>>379422439
Also since I forgot to mention
Splatoon 2 is currently dominating #1 in COMG rankings with a whooping 538 pts. The numbers are purely individual when pre-release but usually the rule of thumb has been to translate the points into thousands when predicting first week sales.
Nintendo better pray they have Switches in stock or they're gonna be left in stitches. Summer is going to be a bloodbath.
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>>379422439
>ARMS currently has 35 points at Comgnet

I don't know shit about japanese preorder trends. Is 35 good?
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>>379422968

Just look above at the posts. No less than 10 people, for example, have outright stated that they're never gonna touch Splatoon again once Spla2n comes out. Some investment.
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>>379423056
>Splatoon 2 is currently dominating #1 in COMG rankings with a whooping 538 pt
>ARMS only has 35

Jesus so ARMS is a flop?
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>>379403676
Fuck you, pokken is deeper then SV5 that's for sure
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>>379422680
>Hard fact.
>Presents personal opinion.

I guess for the time being let's ignore Overwatch, WoW, the majority of CoD games, Splatoon, Mario Kart, GTA V, Arma 3, CS: GO, L4D2.

>>379422968
We getting baited so hard.
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>>379423219
Am looking forward to Pokken, didn't get Wii U so we'll see how good it gets.
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>>379423163
how many points did Spatoon 1 have?
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>>379423439

This guy >>379422439 says it had 138 before release
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>>379423056
they've been seemingly hoarding stock for Splatoon 2 blowout, so I wouldnt be too worried.
I mean, launch day will be good business for them at least. Shit's still gonna be a nightmare to find in Japan.
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>>379423237

>actually trying to imply that Overbotch is good, let alone the rest of those games

Thank you for proving my point. Nobody even plays L4D2 anymore, COD is regularly dumped for the sequels, Mario Kart instantly gets dropped when a sequel comes out, and the rest are shovelware.
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>>379423163
No, it just means that Splatoon 2 is selling really fucking good. It's going to be the de facto killer app in Japan. Again, the first game ended up with it's points around 140, and that sold around 140k in it's first week having insane legs sustaining it the entire year. These numbers usually go up in the week leading up to release cause that's when the marketing push goes hard. My guess is ARMS is going to end up around 100 or so once it releases and probably do somewhere between 90-120k in it's first week. It'll probably do decently but not Splatoon numbers which is about the best Nintendo can expect.

>>379423063
It's not great but it'll probably do better, and again, it's just the rating of one store. You have to factor in the fact that ARMS is visibly selling better on Amazon than it is COMG.
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>>379423784
>Literally shitting on multiplayer because ewww other humans.

You've not really provided an argument besides "I dislike multiplayer and I like singleplayer"
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>>379423815
A bit off topic but how many points is Monster Hunter for the Switch at?
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RIP thread let's see sonybros start a new one to bitch about Nintendo and how it's failing.
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>>379424012
http://www.comgnet.com/ranking/

It's ranked 19 with 9 points
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>>379424012
9pts, but then I'm not sure if pre-orders have gone into full swing yet. MonHun games usually end up in the 1000-ranges which should put into perspective how Splatoon 2 having almost 600 a month ahead of release is a pretty big deal. I think the original MHX was around 3800 the week it was releasing.
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>>379423815
>My guess is ARMS is going to end up around 100 or so once it releases and probably do somewhere between 90-120k in it's first week.

That sounds about right. Ever since it was announced it's pretty much been a slightly smaller Splatoon in terms of reception it seems like
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>>379420167
>Tropical Freeze
>83
nice mediocre game, friend
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>>379424329
Go back to /pol/
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Im gonna start a mew thread so we can continue thjs heeee heeee!
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>>379401107
>see fagit its less than 90!

You know we're supposed to play and talk about these. Souls games get reviewed well and I find them stale af, not bad but I don't care for them.
>inb4 nintenbro
Only on /vr/, I just hate this weak meme that reviews mean fuck all anymore.
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