>that awkward moment when u realize they're the same guy

Do you have a single shred of evidence to back up that claim?

glad you could bake it uther

>>379393748
That's a guy?

>>379393817
white arthas shows up around the same time yellow arthas disappears

>>379393748
>>379393748
when does he get revived in wow?

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It's over Uther, I have the high ground

>>379394549
Arthas would make a good space marine that fell to chaos

>>379394549
he's a big guy

crashing this kingdom with no survivors

>>379394549
>tfw you sided with Mal'Ganis

was becoming the lich king part of his plan?

>>379395527
Nobody knew who he was until he put on the crown.

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>>379393748

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>blonde, impulsive manchild dooms his entire country by playing right into the enemy's hands

woah...

>>379393748
someone make the i can be the nicest guy youve ever met meme already

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>>379394549

>>379395908
Arthas was right though?

>>379393748
>I can be your best general, or your worst frozen king

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>>379395908
>turned mad by his love for his decadent kingdom
>corrupted by ancient artifact

>>379393748
are you retarded?

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>>379395908
powerful

>>379396405
>decadent kingdom
How was Lordaeron decadent

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>>379396251
Every fucking time

>>379396554
It was being struck by the plague and the king was shit

>>379396251
Anyone have that non-cooking but character reversal? Where the characters lines are switched and it doesn't make any sense and it's hilarious?

>>379396251
This is good

>>379396676
do you know what decadent means

>>379395908
>I didn't actually play WCIII: the post

>>379396554
too much bickering with the other kingdoms
bickering among the kings advisors (in the cinematic)
corruption from within by the cult of the damned
letting the orcs escape
letting bandits rob towns

pretty shittay

>>379396812
decadent means "falling"

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>>379397237
"No."

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You want a piece of me boy?

>>379397332
In your rear with my gear.

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>>379397319
Yes

Comes from French "déchoir" which means to fall. You're free to be a faggot somewhere else, have a good day

>>379395908
why is jimmy neutron blonde?

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>>379397678
>m-muh old outdated definition!
>m-muh french!

>>379396251
The Italian localization is weird

>>379397938
Hmm yes I love being right. It was a pleasure to educate you

>>379398126
holy shit do you always type like a redditor?

>>379398176
Let it go pal, it's the butthurt talking

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>>379396251
>you are not my chef yet, boyardi

Every fucking time

>>379398283
who

>>379398126
I can already see your greasy hair and pseudo intellect

>>379398517
You
Fucking retard. Quit being a bitch in nice threads

>>379398729
t. an actual retard

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>>379398126

>>379398695
I neither have hair nor am I intelligent, buddy

>>379398795
Me neither

>>379398126
Not him but:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/decadent

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/decadence

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/decadent

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/decadent

Notice that every single one of these actually stress out the state of moral and/or cultural decline, the final one actually defines the term flat out as "a person or a group of low moral standards".

While they word is actually rooted in the word "déchoir", it is also related to the word "to decay" which means to rot, to fall apart, to decrease quality or quantity through age".
Every single definition as well as etymology agrees here: "decadent" means "in a poor cultural or moral state". Not to "fall" generally.

>>379398925
wanna meet and fuck?

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>>379398795
>I neither have hair

>>379399029
decay comes from french "déchoir" as well

>>379399029
turns out the same word can have more than definition, really activates my almonds

>>379399170
>decay comes from french "déchoir" as well
Yeah, genius. But it does not mean the same thing. This might blow up your mind but new words are often formed by using an existing root but modifying it to convey new, vaguely related meaning.

>>379399190
Not in this case, they don't. Decay is not a polysemantic word really.

>>379399190
>turns out the same word can have more than definition

>>379397678
>ONLY I AM RIGHT I EDUCATE YOU REE

pathetic desu

>>379399386
It's not a new word, english literally took the french word "décadent" as it was

>>379394549
Damn, you're right. The resemblance to Episode III is uncanny.

Hack writing at its finest

>>379399414
>more than one definition
sorry I fucked that up, words are hard like my 10 inch dick

>>379399642
Arthas is a better written Anakin

>make a thread about one of the greatest vidya games ever made
>thread devolves into an argument about word origins

I fucking love you guys. So much.

>>379394549
This is the last time they spoke as friends.

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>>379399692
True.

But still, the aftermath of Stratholme and Arthas downfall could've been prevented if the characters would've actually engaged in a proper conversation.

Also HOT BELVES THREAD??

>>379399702
I love you too, now pull your pants down so I can suck your feminine penis

>>379394351
Next expansion probably. When we go back to Northrend. Blizzard cant make new characters for dick and Arthas is one of their best characters.

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did someone say feminine penis?

>>379400083
thats a weird way to spell Admiral Daelin Proudmoore

>>379399605
>It's not a new word
Are you actually fucking retarded? Also, the fucking word décadent in french still means something else than déchoir you cretin. Especially after it was transplanted to English, which happened fairly recently by the way in direct relation to the artistic movement of decadent fucking art.

Oh yeah, and lets add to this:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/decadent
So first if all it's not actually derived from French and not from the word "déchoir", but from latin, and from the word "decadens", a noun form of the original medieval latine decadere, meaning "to decline or to lapse". The word "déchoir" shares the same root, semantically forked off somewhere in 17th century.

And once again, you can see the beautiful definitions:
Meaning (adjective):
Characterized by moral or cultural decline.
Luxuriously self-indulgent.

Noun:
A person affected by moral decay.

Can we stop now? How many fucking times do we need to fucking prove you wrong here. Fuck me. Just let fucking go and admit that you got that word wrong.

>>379397678
>>379398126
I speak Portuguese (the closest language to latin).
Generally, decadente means a person that is being corrupted, depressive. But it can also mean falling

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>>379399702
You seem to have forgotten your reaction image. Here you go.

>>379400083
>best

he was the worst fucking character. but somehow, the stars happened to align and his existence as the most colossal mary sue in the history of video game paved the way for some actual good storytelling.

we don't need arthas, we need a another fall-from-grace story. and i'm not talking metzen-level corruption. i want to see someone as holy and in the light as anduin succumb to pain and suffering and watch them change completely.

>>379393860
Watch your scones, boy

>>379400619
>Generally, decadente means a person that is being corrupted, depressive.
Well, the prefix de- is the same as in depression or deflation, meaning "downwards" or "into itself". Cadere is latin for "fall", "collapse", "lose grip on", "tumble".
Interestingly enough, the cadere is actually closely related to English words like "cadaver" and "cadence".

>>379400319
But I'm right. Even though I'll admit it wasn't the best term to use

>>379401157
But you're fucking wrong

>>379396778
Uther: Glad I could make it Arthas

Arthas: I watch my tone with you, old man. I may be the prince, but you're still my superior as a paladin.

Uther: As if you could forget. Yes Arthas, there's something about the plague I should know. ...Oh no, it's already begun. These people may look fine now, but it's only a matter of time before they turn into the Undead!

Arthas: What?!

Uther: This entire city must be purged.

Arthas: How can I even consider that? There's got to be some other way.

Uther: Damn it, Arthas! As my future king, order me to purge this city!

Arthas: I am not your king yet, old man. Nor should you obey that command even if I were.

Uther: Then you must consider this an act of treason.

Arthas: Treason?! Have I lost my mind, Uther?

Uther: Have you? Prince Arthas, by right of succession and the sovereignty of your crown, you must hereby relieve me of my command, and suspend my paladins from service.

Jaina: Uther! He can't just--

Uther: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow him. The rest of you... get out of his sight.

Arthas: I've just crossed a terrible threshold, Uther.

Jaina: ...Arthas?

Arthas: I'm sorry, Jaina. You can't watch me do this.

>>379394641
Except his actions were correct at the moment, and specially he did exactly what a space marine would do.

>>379401245
I'm sorry but no

>>379393748
I fucking lost.
It's not fair.

>>379401157
I don't think you are. Maybe I've lost track of the discussion, but you were the one arguing that decadent means "falling" and arguing largely external causes other than internal moral decay and you further claimed that it just means "falling" (which it does not: decadent society is not necessarily falling, it just is in a state of MORAL DECAY, it might be actually growing and looking up to a long existence). You further argued that it came from from the french word déchoir which turns out to be also entirely wrong.

So yeah, no. You were not right. Unless I'm misattributing the posts to you, I'm pretty sure you were completely and utterly WRONG.

>>379393748
>you can call me a loser in lordaeron all you want
>but in northrend you're the loser

>>379401514
>You further argued that it came from from the french word déchoir which turns out to be also entirely wrong.
No I'm right about this

Also my post was >>379396405

Dare you fucking tell me the use of decadent here is so absolutely incorrect that no one at all could have presumably understood the meaning of this meme sentence

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Who was in the wrong here?

>>379401979
the writers

>>379401838
was there even a shred of evidence that the kingdom was in a state of moral anything?

the literal only scene we got about lord was a bunch of lords arguing about shit

and a based welcome home son parade

so....

>>379401979
arthas

illidindu nuffinrage

>>379402178
see
>>379397131

>>379399692
The best thing LucasFilms did in the Clone Wars series was making Anakin into a carbon copy of Arthas.
Arthas is Anakin if he was written properly.

>>379401979
A corrupted shaman in the service of an endless throng of world-killing demons

Or an elf with demonic powers trying to stop said demons from destroying his world

really tinkles my winkle

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>>379402192

>>379401979
Arthas obviously.
That doesn't prevent him from being the GOAT character in warcraft.

>>379402276
i suppose so

sounds pretty run of the mill medieval kingdom shit to me though

what was the moral aspiration that wasnt being met?

>>379402586
Now everyone in the thread has recognized me as the one who holds the truth, I have no interest in arguing any further with you.

Have a good day

>>379396904
How is that wrong though? Arthas' heart was in the right place, but he did literally everything wrong due to his pride, his rashness, and his unwillingness to listen to others and ended up basically handing all of the people he was trying to avenge and protect to the scourge on a silver platter.

>>379402827
He did everything right. Everyone else did everything wrong

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>>379402313
>my superior as an asshole

>>379393748
>that awkward moment when u realize arthas was a fucking cuck and ner'zhul pulled all the strings

>>379402302
Ner'zhul isn't very fond of Burning Legion since he was tortured and turned into Lich King by Kil'jaeden. So basically both Illidan and Lich King have same goal which is to go against Burning Legion.

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>>379393748
explain how they are both in the same picture then

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>>379403075
>he didn't read the book

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>>379395983

>>379403147
Custom maps.

>>379402302
Illidan didn't march on the frozen throne to save the world. He did it to save his ass from Kil'Jaeden.

>>379403175
not canon

>>379403175
I did mate the book is shit though and 100% lore rape.
>written by who woman
>muh horse
>muh jana
>muh blood elf cock is better

>>379403275
Who? Is that a mod?

>>379403349
It is canon though

>>379403401
True.
Christie Golden is trash.

>>379403175
>reading WoW-friendly ret-cons

>>379403471
even fucking knaak is better and that guy is already low tier fantasy trash.

>>379403401
So you know that ner'zhul was basically incompetent and Arthas roflstomped him as soon as they """""merged""""

>>379403578
As trash as Christie is, nothing was technically retconned. She did a good job of building it off the frame of WC3.

>>379397332
please educate yourself, it's actually "you want a piece of meat, boy?"

>>379394641
>purging the corrupted
>not the meaning of life for a space marine
Reported to the inquisition.

>>379403467
This must be bait. It has to be.

>>379395908
fuck off /pol/

(this is still a good meme right?)

>>379403628
A retcon that only exists because Blizzard knows it's easier to explain only Arthas backstory in WoW to braindead players than to explain Ner'Zhul's as well

>>379403751
>nothing was technically retconned
In the game
>now we are one
In the book
>now we're just Arthas

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>>379403901
>using demon artifacts
Call them, see what happens.

>>379404284
That happened after the cinematic.

Reminder that Uther did nothing wrong

>>379404383
The truth is WCIII's Lich King would have been harder to write than WoW's saturday morning cartoon villain.

>>379404116
As I said, it's not a retcon. Nothing changed from wc3 lore. It was just added on.
Would it have been cooler that Ner'Zhul lived on? Yes, and it would've made a hell of a lot more sense now with Bolvar seemingly turning evil in Legion.

You're right about them dumbing it down, but even the most braindead fanbases can handle extremely convoluted storylines. Look at Whoivans.

>>379404594
the plot was literally the merge between an orcish mind and an human body into a new super being but metzen is a shit writter so we got a king with daddy issues

>>379404540
WCIII's Lich King was a guy in a block of ice telling a guy with an evil sword to kill people.

>>379404875
Even your simplification sounds a thousand times more compelling than what they did in WoW

>>379403964
I would never do that, I'm not a troll.

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>WHAT YOU MEAN THE COURSE OF EVENT IS TAKING A COMPLEX ETHICAL DILEMMA DIRECTION FORCING ME, THE OVERSIMPLIFIED DEPICTION OF LAWFUL GOOD CHARACTER UTHER COCKBRINGER TO TAKE A DECISION THAT ISN'T 100% WHITE AGAINST TRULY EVIL
>NO BAD POO POO NO KILL INNOCENT EVEN IF SITUATION DEMANDS IT I WANT MORE CHOICES I WANT ONE SIDED OPTIONS NO COMPROMISE NO PRAGMATISM
>WHAT IS URGENCE ??? I LEAVE NOW I DON'T WANT TO FACE CONSEQUENCES OR HANDLE RESPONSIBILITIES I LEAVE I DO NOTHING AND I BLAME FUCK YOU ARTHAS LE HAVE U LOST UR MIND BOI

>>379403964
You are dumb.

>>379404762
If you think the plot should've been just about that, then the book would've been either a lot shorter of a lot shitter than it actually was.

>>379404326
how should he know that it was a demon artifact? He's a paladin, not an expert on demonology

>>379401305
>Implying the Night Lords, Iron Warriors, Thousand Sons, Alpha Legion and Word Bearers didn't do what was meant to be right by design and got shat on regardless, pushing them to rebellion

>>379405120
Paladins can detect evil shit man.
Arthas knew it was bad juju, but he sensed the immense power.

>>379405038
that's literally the ending from WC3 TFT hence why they say now we are one.

>>379405120
>Whomsoever takes up this blade shall wield power eternal. Just as the blade rends flesh, so must power scar the spirit.
>Immediately takes up blade

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>>379405148

>>379405120
>>379405238
To be fair the whole Inquisition angle of the paladins wasn't elaborated til WoW happened.

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WARCRAFT IIII
FUCKING
WHEN

>>379405365
It's a common element of paladins to be able to detect evil though.

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>Yfw Blizzard predicted the current eu crisis
>Jaina is the liberal left and everyone else against the Orcish Horde with any sense are seen as the evil guys.

Was Arthas /ourguy/ ?

>>379393748

https://clyp.it/igmnqkhl

>>379405294
literally the ending from WC3 isn't what the book was about, nor should it have been

>>379405349
>trusting a redhead manlet
>implying he wouldn't have picked the blade up himself after arthas left the cave

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>>379405378
>IIII

>>379404762
It could have been really interesting seeing what they could have made out of that in a possible Warcraft 4. I imagine Ner'Zhul would have it out for Kil'jaeden and Azeroth would have turned into one huge battlefield between the Scourge and the Legion

>>379405479
Stop forcing this meme.

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>>379405479
All I ever wanted was to study liberal arts

>UGH tfw your dad is like such an oldfashioned bigot!

>>379405540
>left the cave
>not just pondered as to whether it's a demonic artifact or not

>>379405509
We're talking about what the follow up to Wc3 TFT should have been, not some shitty book

>>379401021
>arthas
>marry sue
Pick one.

He's greedy, possessive, emotional, fearful, and impulsive, and those traits bite him in the ass both as Arthas and as the Lich King. As someone else said, he's a better written Anakin.

Marry Sue doesn't mean 'character i dont like'. It's a character with either no flaws or a character with flaws that genuinely dont impact them in any meaningful way.

>>379405479
no, but Admiral Proudmoore and Thoras Trollbane

>>379404762
>orcish mind and an human body into a new super being
Wouldn't that be a downgrade for both orcs and humans?

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>>379402313
>I am not your cuckold yet, brother

>>379393860
>>379401063
https://clyp.it/igmnqkhl

>>379405953
I'd say Ner'zhul was wiser than Arthas and Arthas physically stronger than Ner'zhul

>>379396251
>>379398312

>>379406384

>>379401142
Yes the root is probably the same as descend, but that's still not how the word "decadent" is used. A virtuous kingdom that's falling due to war and other outward factors wouldn't be called "decadent".

>>379405018
Did you push caps look or hold shift in the whole time? Caps lock certainly is more practical and to the viewer it will make no difference, but personally I feel like I'm losing out on emotion by just pushing it. I guess you could punch the keys really hard and fast, but it's still not the same as doing all three.

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>>379401305

Truth.

It was purge the city or have the kingdom overwhelmed by the Undead within weeks.

Knowing what has to be done is hard and having what it takes to do it is even harder.

Great Prince or Greatest Prince?

>tfw you played the TFT campaign before the WC3 one.

>>379408383
Greatest, after he got into the throne the single thing stopping an all out undead invasion on the world was his control over the Scourge.

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Praise him.

>>379409178
Garithos in HOTS when?

>>379393748
nice fanfic my man

>ner'zhul and arthas both did nothing wrong
coincidence?

>>379393748
haha nice photoshop mate, I know they look kinda simliar but everyone knows the lich king is uther not arthas

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>>379402313
>get our of his sigh- oh, shit, that's right

>>379405014
>I'm not a troll
I can smell that jerk chicken, Darkspear

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What's with that look Paladin? The fight isn't over yet!

>>379411247
sauce

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>>379411356
Rennes/blackchain

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I liked her
She was tall and hot

>>379402313
Good shit but it's not funny to bring up the "i cant see joke" the 2nd time.