What made Dark Souls 1 so good, /v/?

Methodical combat, interconnected world, melancholy atmosphere, and lack of handholding.

>>379392487
Immersive experience, I was at the top of immersion at the final boss, literally crying, not sure why.

>>379392487
Damn near all weapons in the game were viable. Something that DKS 2 and 3 lacked.

>>379392487
Nothing. 3 is better in every way.

Diverse creative options without many restrictions and lower expectations.

>>379392487
Not a lot of games like it at the time, multiplat, social media means gamers wanted to broadcast their skill with a benchmark

>>379393052

You can absolutely destroy any enemy in Dark Souls 2 with a broken straight sword.

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>there are literally still people who think Dark Souls was better than 8/10

please move on and accept that the game is very deeply flawed and that you cannot ignore those flaws just because the first half of the game is great and has interesting ideas

>>379392487
Atmosphere, weapon feel.

>>379392872
This is the only correct answer and is probably going to be the most correct answer for the duration of the thread. The rest are probably going to be memes, shitposts and ratings to bite the dust

>>379393052
Actually that's even more possible in 2 than 1. 3 is fucked though and there are only like 2-3 weapons in each class that are usable, and only like 2-4 spells in each class that do anything

>>379392487
It was marketed really well

>>379393365
I understand your annoyance Anon, but nothing we say will make these misguided people realize the truth. They have been doing mental gymnastics for so long now that they are stuck in their delusions.

>>379392487
Emotional world with challenging gameplay and great bosses. except for the whole demon section

I don't like Dark Souls 2 or 3 as much because of the second focusing too much on the challenge and the 3rd one focusing too much on the emotion of decay and darkness.

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The fucking atmosphere was definitely something else. It didn't feel like a normal midieval setting, it was almost dreamlike in the ways the land was. Even though the combat was much better in 3, exploring the world felt so much better in 1.

The higher degree of feasible sequence-breaking was neat too. I liked being able to go get the Great Scythe after a mad-dash through a maze of overleveled enemies.

Also I could be totally wrong about this, but wasn't there a more... Latin feel to it? Compared so some of the more generic gothic stuff in 3.

>>379393810
Combat in 3 really wasn't better.It was panic roll to win

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>>379393657
I mean don't get me wrong. I like the game. I have 200 hours in it.

But I swear I really have no clue how so many people refuse to acknowledge that the game is unfinished as fuck.
It's a game that's massively interesting to think about, and which has influenced gaming a lot because it rethinks a lot of typical game design, but jesus CHRIST the fucking pure wankery over this game is incomprehensible.

Mark my words. Once those dipshits who made Lords of the Fallen and The Surge fuck off so that someone competent can rip off Dark Souls, we'll all be better off.
We'll have Souls games that are actually finished at launch and don't take two steps back for every step forward.

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I think its more important to the industry to address what made Dark Souls successful rather than what specifically made it enjoyable

>Released in a time when most triple A games were considered far too easy
>amazing and risky marketing campaign that sold the game on its punishing difficulty
>satisfying yet simple combat that was extremely easy to pick up and play
>amazing boss battles in a time period where most triple A games either forgot about boss battles or had shit boss battles
>a deep, melancholic atmosphere that was memorable and unique
>interconnected, pseudo-metroidvania world could be completed in a huge variety of orders
>the above combined with PvP and the massive amount of build variety thanks to the sheer amount of weapons/spells and limitations on stat allocations made the game incredibly replayable, while still allowing people to beat the base game in around 40-60 hours on their first run. People remember games they've sunk hundreds of hours in more fondly.
>one of the most speedrunnable games ever made, also adding to its replayability.
>convoluted, deep lore and a final boss fight that came out of left field and kept people thinking about the story long after they finished the game
>incredibly solid level design that forced the player to adapt and learn while giving them plenty of fair opportunities to do so.

Anything I'm missing?

>>379393365
>implying it's any better than a 4/10
It's poorly designed trash with performance issues on all platforms.

>>379394237
>wankery
Are you the Brit that keeps crying about/v/ not liking ds3? Just to /dsg/, there are many like minded individuals such as yourself who agree with you
>>>/vg/

>>379394237
It's less about refusing to acknowledge its flaws and more about just having fun playing the game without nitpicking every inane little thing you can do nothing about.

For a site that claims to hates game journalism shit, everyone really loves to think they're the best analyzing reviewer on the planet.

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Lost Izalith and BoC

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>>379394903
>nitpicking

Yeah, all those nitpicks like "the second half of this game blows complete ass" and "this game was made out of duct tape and elmer's glue"
There's no way the game is a double edged sword of good ideas with oftentimes bad implementation

Nah greatest game ever made 10/10 it's perfect because I can gank scrubs

>>379394903
This.

/v/ is incredibly hard to read now since its more about nitpicking popular games and just general cynical shitposting instead of people who actually like games talking/celebrating them. /vg/ was needed but it really killed good discussion on /v/

>>379395106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI

>>379395205
I told you I like the game, dumbass.
What I also said is that calling the game amazing is complete and utter bullshit that ignores how much of the game is fucked.

Quit treating the game like it's the holy achievement of video games and maybe I won't have to remind you that Lost Izalith exists every time we have this thread.

>>379392487
You felt like you were on a journey. The world was interconnected incredibly well, and you could upgrade at any bonfire. This was really something special that they inexplicably axed in the later games, going back to the Demon Souls model of teleportation and having a central hub to upgrade. For me, it killed any sense of progression and mastering the world, and it felt more like Mario or something. Can you imagine if Frodo Baggins kept warping back to the Shire at the end of every chapter? It would be a completely different book.

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>>379395384
Nobody is arguing that Lost Izalith isn't bad, anon.

A game can still be amazing even if it has glaring flaws, sorry to burst your titties but having to run through eye rape lava and dragon asses for about an hour didn't bother me enough to ruin the game for me.

Among other things mentioned by >>379392872 , one thing which is often forgotten is the lack of quick travel (for the first half of the game). It really made you feel like you were on a perilous adventure, especially going down to Blighttown, that was such an experience - now think about it how it would've been if you could just beam out of there any time you wanted. Quick travel, especially in the later games, was a mistake.

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>>379394237
Some of my favorite games are blatantly unfinished.

>>379395106
It's ok if you don't enjoy the game for what it is or in general, you don't affect anything whatsoever and are wholly insignificant. You know what I'm not doing when playing the second half of the game (ie just Demon Ruins and Izalith since they're the only really weak areas)? I'm not seething with rage over theoretical shit that doesn't accomplish anything.

What exactly is there to be angry about when playing a game? Also projecting that I'm hailing the game as a 10/10 is silly since I just said I'm not a game reviewer and don't do retarded shit like that. What fulfillment do you get out of letting others know how much toy hate certain aspects of the game(s)? Also feel free to list some "amazing" games if there are any you find "amazing", which there shouldn't be because flaws obviously mean a game can't be truly good.

Also no need to use flamebait "le triggered xd" pictures as if you're above it all. We're not arguing, we're discussing. Something seemingly very lost to this board.

>I only look forward to video games so that I can pick apart every issue it has instead of enjoying the parts I enjoy

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>>379392487
It's basically Zelda for depressed manchildren.

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>>379393365
>you cannot ignore those flaws
Actually I can, and I will

>>379392487
Story was open to interpretation
Exploration is rewarded bur never forced upon
Amazing combat that punished you for making mistakes, without being unfair
Dark, mysterious, alluring atmosphere
Amazing, cohesive level design

list goes on

>>379397761
So, Zelda is just for manchildren then innit??

>>379398030
Nah just for children.

>>379397324
Fuck off, you'll be shitposting some game here this same day

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>>379398214
I like you

>>379395792
>Quick travel, especially in the later games, was a mistake.

This

>>379398315
Actually on my 4chan schedule for the day, I'll be Toddposting (not because I hate him or his games but because it's fun) from about 3:00-6:00. Then ending the night off with a few hours of a video game music groove thread.

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Am I in a thread with people that like video games? I think I need to lie down I've never been in such a place