Here's your controller, bro

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>>379384078

Bro if you want to fuck me you should've just said something

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So how are they gonna fuck up Smash 4 Switch guys? They've already proven Switch can't get a WiiU game without some fuckery happening.
>Have to withhold Pokken DLC to make the Switch version appealing (It's still 60 dollars for one Pokemon in Japan)
>Have to remove BOTW gamepad features so it isn't better than the Switch version
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has fucked balancing and is objectively worse than the WiiU one

My bets for possibilities are on:
>Needing a new gamecube controller adapter that's twice the price or more of the last one
>Replacing gamecube support altogether with stuff like in the OP
>Mix or 3DS and WiiU stages, not all from both, losing good stages in the process while Pacland and that terrible WiiU starfox stage remain
>Unable to retain the entire third party roster.

>>379384078
>all those buttons in one place
do you not understand how small the joycons are

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My ass is prepared for excavation, renovation, and annihilation

>>379384379
I don't think they deliberately withheld Pokken DLC, I think they just didn't bother to support it.

>>379384654
Thats cute anon

>>379384379
What features were removed from the wii u version? Fog?

>tfw want

>>379384850
You're gonna need to be more specific my post talks about 3 games.

fucking memecube controllers

>>379385383
They're the objective best way to play Smash. They're perfect for one another.

Would something like this even work?

>>379384379
>Needing a new gamecube controller adapter that's twice the price or more of the last one

Good, ditch that shit already, treat the people that still need that shit like smokers and overcharge for it.

>>379384379
Considering Pokken is getting support for the wired gamepads, I'm sure they'll just use the gamecube adapter again and release another wave.

>>379385609
See>>379385492

>>379384379
No Melee mode.

>>379384775
If you know anything about Game Freak you know that they drop support on side games almost immediately. My Pokemon Ranch was supposed to work on all Gen 4 games. Japan got an update for Platinum that never went overseas, and they said fuck it to HGSS.

>>379385754
You can play perfectly fine with the pro controller, stop being a baby.

>>379385908
Gamefreak didn't work on Pokken

>>379385383
>>379385950
You need them for the same reason you need a fight stick in other fighting games. You're at a disadvantage without it.

>>379385950
Perfectly fine/=Actually good

Melee HD when though

>>379384078
This is a cool idea, but I've always fucking hated the GC controller

>>379386546
They should just make an actual d-pad joycon, just change the buttons on the left joycon for a d-pad, or even the stick, I would buy the shit out of that.

>>379386668
i guess but the buttons are just as good. I have a feeling a d-pad would feel a little compressed on the thing.

>>379386749
Maybe, maybe that's why they haven't made it, but it may just be too soon to tell.

>>379386749
>i guess but the buttons are just as good.
Wrong.

>>379387043
why

certainly better than that carousel bullshit we got with the pro controller

>>379387110
Try and play a 2d platformer with 4 face buttons. Go, download an emulator, grab a controller. get a 2d platformer, and map the DPAD to ABXY.

That'll do more than my words can.

>>379387110
The d-pad on the procontrolelr is bad, but I think still better than the buttons.

But really, both options are so bad, I end up using the stick, specially since playing with the buttons is not that similar to playing with the d-pad, so if I change back and forth between portable and docked, I prefer the shitty stick because is familiar.

>>379387293
THIS.God I hate the lack of a dpad so much.

>>379387293
even so, the analogy stick is actually a good middleman ironically enough. I could totally play SMW with the stick standing in for a d-pad

>>379384078
>Smash 4
No thanks bro

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>>379387110
>>379387365
>They fucked up the DPAD on the Switch pro controller
>On a 70 fucking dollar controller
Every time I learn more about the Switch I hope more and more they don't release any games I absolutely have to play on it, because the hardware end of things is atrocious.

I desperately don't want to end up buying one of these things but I can't say no if they announce 5ma5h or 4 with actual new stuff like characters and stages

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>>379387475
>analogy stick
>mfw

Analog works for some 2D games because the dev put time into making them that way. It's not even unanimous in the modern day though. Mighty Switch Force is one of the better 2d platformers of the last few years and it has atrocious analog support in 1 2 and all version of the game.

It doesn't work well on pre analog stick games. Thats you having no standards.

>>379385950
peo controller is garbage.

>>379387632
The d-pad is not thaaaaat bad, but is mind boggling how they got such a simple thing wrong, specially when they usually make the best d-pads.

>>379388089
Not thaaaaat bad is pretty fucking bad considering the pricetag on that thing.

My Steam controller has 10 times the functionality and bells and whistles of a Switch Pro controller (The only thing a Switch pro can do that a SC can't is read amiibos) and I got it for 35 dollars new on sale. 50 dollars normally.

>>379387608
Would the Switch even be able to emulate Melee?

>>379388462
There's no native gamecube like with the WiiU. So no, Switch is genuinely not powerful enough to emulate a GC game, it would need to be made from the ground up

>>379388462
Even if it is, some of the most popular games in it need analog triggers, something the Switch doesn't have.

>>379388814
That's what I think is worse than the d-pad on the pro controller.

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>>379384181

>>379388814
I dont know, Mario Kart is their flagship racer, and it doesn't need analog triggers. There's really not many other applications for it unless you want to design a game around it ala Mario Sunshine.

Bayonetta and 2 were so fucking good to play on WiiU exactly because of the lack of analog triggers.

Analog triggers are a bit of a meme.

>>379387759
Im just saying there's a particular give to the stick that emulates the d-pad feel while still feeling comfortable.

>>379388448
It's still a great controller that also comes with a USB A/C cable.

>>379390476
>It's still a bare minimum controller for 20 more dollars than is necessary
FTFY
Everything the Switch pro controller can do my Steam controller I bought for 35 dollars can do better. I could buy another whole god damn controller with the price difference between my Steam Controller and the Switch pro controller

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>>379390754
>>It's still a bare minimum controller for 20 more dollars than is necessary

nah

>Steam Controller
Yeah there's a reason it's so cheap lol

>>379390476
>>379390754
Oh also
>It comes bundled with a fucking charging cable
My 50 dollar WiiU pro controllers came bundled with a charging cable. This means EXACTLY nothing.

>>379390813
Because retards see something different, dont look into it, and chimp out? Every single fucking time.

I bet you were one of the people saying analog sticks were a gimmick during the fifth gen

>>379390754
>mustards suck gabens cock so hard they are now deluding themselves to believe the madcatz tier steam controller is anything other than a pile of shit
O im laffin' look at that fucking """"dpad"""""

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>>379390837
>mini usb-b

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>>379391017
>How do you want your d-pad senpai?
>I'll have the "fuck my shit up" special please.

>>379390964
no, because it sucks

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>Hating the Steam Controller
How to spot somebody that's never used one in one easy step.

>>379390964
He was barely alive during 5th gen, my man.

>>379391017
>>379391103
I'm not a fan of the Steam controller either. That's why I use my Xbox One controller. Or PS4 controller. Or my Wii U Pro controller. Or anything I really want to use that day :^)

>>379391103
See thats the thing though. I have options, I can just plug in a different controller for a 2D platformer is the stick isn't working great and I can't make the trackpad setup feel right (it's hit and miss, I've had it feel nice for a few 2d games).

The Switches options are the joycon face buttons and a botched dpad on a controller 20 dollars too expensive.

When you're outjewing VALVE, there is a massive problem.

>>379387293
I've beaten every single campaign and challenge level in shovel Knight with the 4 button movement controls, you're just a pussy

>>379391208
>it's good because our BASED gaben made it!!! Amirite guys? Everyone here at /pcmr/ knows how amazing and BASED the BASED steam controller is! Consolekiddies wish they had a based controller as based as the steam controller! Can someone please ELI5 to the consolebabbies what makes the steam controller and pc gaming so based? If we work together guys we may be able to get some new concerts to join the master race!
>*edit* thanks for the gold!

>>379391452
get a job bro

>>379391480
And there's people out there with the golden wheel next to their name on Mario Kart Wii but that doesn't mean it's actually an acceptable control scheme

>>379391480
shovel knight on a single joy con stick is maximum comfy

>>379391501
I hate Valve, I dont like Gaben. I think they're one of the most detrimental influences on the video game industry today.

But fuck me, they made literally the best controller I've ever used.

>>379391558
If I can play with exactly the same experience (which I do), then there's no problems. Split d-pad is exactly as good as a regular one.

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>>379391208

HahahahahhahahaNOPE

Everyone knows how big a steaming pile of shit the steam controller is. It is objectively the worst option for gamepad on PC.

>>379391558
sounds like you just hate fun

>>379391523
>You're poor because you aren't making a terrible investment
No, thats what poor people do.

>>379391714
>$300
>investment

bro...

>>379391671
Look at that big ole pile of evidence

>>379391787
Exhibit A: Xbone Controller

>>379391778
Money wasted is money wasted, period.
If you aren't poor, like you claim, you'd know this.

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>>379391863
>Twinstick
Holy shit, you're for real

>>379384379

Clones out of the ass

>>379386668
But then you can't take it off and share it with a friend as a mini controller!

>>379391870
ok

>>379392104
What an excellent argument anon, I admit defeat

>>379384379
>Hey guys we just crapped out a new Fire Emblem so we threw in a bunch of new Fire Emblem characters instead of anyone that anybody actually asked for!

>>379391671
Worst for anything that requires adpad, best for anything 3D.
t. 100+ hours in Witcher 3 and MGSV using the steam controller.

>>379384379
What's up with the balancing in mario kart 8 deluxe? I never paid attention to the stats or played it much on wiiu.

>>379392381
Honestly, you can make a some dpad games work, but not all. I usually bind left and right to the right trackpad, and set it up so each half of the controller is left and right, and the I jump crouch and jump or watever up and down were for the game on a button somewhere.

Overall I'd probably rather just use a dpad at that point (removable parts steam controller 2/pro fucking when), but it's by no means unpleasant.

>>379392164
ANON BUY MY TABLET TOY AND AMIIBOS OR ELSE THE GHOST OF IWATA-SAN WILL CRY

>>379392576
It's not a stats thing really, although I do hear bikes are a bit too good again.
Basically
>Double the items when 8 was already on the edge of being far too itemy
>Add a drifting tier
>Don't change or adapt the courses in any way shape or form for these rather large gameplay changes
First- third have more items queued up to defend themselves with now and fourth-twelfth is basically up to RNGesus there's so many items flying around

>>379392747
They put a corporate stooge by the books businessman in charge of his legacy. He's crying no matter what we do.

>>379392848
drifting tier?

>>379392995
The more you drift the bigger the boost, red to blue I believe, now there's purple at the end

>>379391631
T. Used nothing else but madcatz,logitech, and nyko controllers

>>379393107
Keep stretching anon, gotta stay limber

>>379392848
Damn. They should have made some of the roads thinner, or add dangerous shortcuts. The whole bumping each other in zero G is just retarded and removes any aspect of good driving.

I guess nintendo is just trying to make it a game for only ten year olds instead of for all ages.

>>379386114
Do you even play fighting games? You don't need a fight stick and you aren't at a disadvantage without one. Playing pad works just as well, and sometimes better than with a stick. Most people just play with stick because its what they grew up with. If you insist you're at a disadvantage because you use a pro controller you're just retarded.

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>>379393409
It's a damn shame the best mario kart's community on PC finally tapered off. Gotta rely on /v/ groups to play full games now, so good fucking luck.

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>>379392164
thanks

Does the switch pro controller feel good to hold?

>>379392848
nice opinion i guess..

>>379393776
oh yeah

>>379393932
>Facts are opinions
Switchfags, ladies and gentlemen

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>>379384175

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>>379384078
Here's yours, bro.

>>379389745
You can't lightshield without them.

Unless you assign one of the triggers to regular shield and the other to light shield;
but we all know what would happen then.

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>>379394297
irony

I honestly doubt nintendo is going to take advantage of the switch's main gimmick like this. Designing a variety of joycons is far too much work for nintendo nowadays.

>>379396265
>Post facts
>That just like, your opinion man
>No argument as to why those faults should be considered acceptable
Sure

>>379384850
Ice Climbers

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>>379394953

>>379385383
Hey, the hexagonal stick well should be a standard feature of every controller.

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>>379396774
Why is it bad to have items flying around?

>>379397845
>Double the items
>In a Mario Kart that was already laying it on a bit too thick with items
This makes it so that the people in first second and third have double the items to defend that position and get distance from the rest of the group. And fourth through twelfth is RNGesus takes the wheel because there are too many items for you to have any real input on what place you get.

>more is more, no matter what
How to spot somebody who knows nothing about game design

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>>379398138
>>In a Mario Kart that was already laying it on a bit too thick with items

opinion! Sounds like you just need to git gud

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>>379384078
I just realized, the reason the gamecube controller is so good with 2D fighters is cause the analogue stick has a octagon cut out (instead of a circle) to lock the directions in place.

>>379398414
This was a common complaint with the game when it first came out. It's objectively more item dependent than 7 was.
Deluxe is literally the most item heavy Mario Kart to ever exist.

>>379384078
would genuinely buy this, the gamecube controller is one of the best controllers i've ever used

>>379398991
and this is supposed to be a bad thing...?

>>379399450
Yes. Mario Kart needs a balance between player input mattering and items flipping the table on them. If the player isn't doing anything to get the place they got, they won't enjoy themselves.

Player input barely matters in MK8D, it's more of a lottery than a racing game.

>>379399597
>too many items to use
>that means there's no input

wha...?

>>379384078
dog switch tan is the best

>>379384553
I was thinking this exactly. Whoever shopped this, does not have a joy con for perspective.

>>379399761
(you)

>>379400012
thanks :)

>>379386283
With all the exploits patched