Pokken Tournament

They introduced non-fighting types and 3rd person camera angle

What is this indicating? Also this game is boring as fuck to watch, they need to stop letting it into EVO

>>379373012
No Slowbro

>>379373065
>pokemon first person shooter
what the fuck

>>379373012
No content
Now that you don't have to play storymode to unlock things there's even less of an incentive to play it and it was shit anyway
>no costumes, no hats for Pikachu
>6 starters, only 1 isn't fully evolved
>3 ghosts, 4 fire types
>2 croagunks instead of having Toxicroak be the playable one

>>379373628
I've never played this game and have no intention to, but surely if types are involved then whoever chooses first is at a disadvantage? What the fuck?

>>379373012

Farfetch'd is my nigga for all time

>>379373746
types don't matter, that would be dumb
I'm just saying that they have 4 fucking fire types when there's no Rock or much fewer representation for the other typings

>>379373746
types have no impact

>>379373628
>no costumes, no hats for Pikachu
Blame TPC
They also didn't allow Harada to upload the arcade characters to the Wii U version

>>379373012
No heracross.
No breloom.

>Decidueye is the gen 7 rep instead of fucking Incineroar

why?

>>379374152
Good.

Fuck the shitty bara cat and the fucking furfaggot seal.

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>>379373012

>>379374260
Based Wong

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>>379373012
>that giant gen 4 circlejerk

>>379374387
>Gen 5 is so fucking shit, they added chandelure as playable character

>>379375290
who are you quoting, reddit-kun?

>>379375290
Are you talking crap about Chandelure you faggot?

>>379375359
>>379375363
Yes. Literal waste of slot character.

>>379373012
PINSIR FUCKING WHEN?

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>>379375290
what's so bad about gen 5? gen 6 and 7 are worse imo.

>>379373012
>2 pikachus and Mewtwos
>No Hitmonchan
>No Hawlucha

>>379373012
>What went wrong
introduction of megas and the fairy type. this shit died with b/w

>>379376014
>pokemon went wrong with fairies and megas
>labels b/w as the death of pokemon
You're looking for X/Y anon.

>No Hawlucha
>No Heracross

Feels bad. That's also one of the worst Gen 5 reps they could have gone with. There are a lot of cool pokemon in that gen that seem more suited to a fighting game.

>Golurk
>Bisharp
>Krookodile
>Excadrill
>Throh/Sawk tag team
>Scrafty
>Zoroark
>Darmanitan

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>>379373012
>trailer for Decidueye still not up
>can't find any info anywhere about what Litten and Popplio do as supports

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>No Zoroark for dickass dirty fighting

Damn it GF, support the ruse fox.

>>379376381

Chandelure literally got in because it was the most popular Gen V mon that wasn't a starter or legendary.

>>379375732
>>379375290
Chandelure is the most popular Generation 5 Pokemon.

>still no broloom

>>379373012
Gen 2 had little stand-alone and is just kinda an extension of Kanto.
Gen 5 is too trashed.
Gen 6 (now 7) were new shit to promote.
Gen 4 had a peak of "passionate" fans post-gen 2, so it's overblown.
Gen 3 is just left to suffer.

>>379373012
>Worst gen got more figthers...

>>379373012
The game is basically RPS.
Also there's like a full second of hit freeze. It's ridiculous and makes the game flow weirdly.

>>379381487
>basically RPS
Explain without using /v/-approved memes

>>379373012
>Chandlure instead of Golurk
what is this shit taste

>>379376870
says something about that shit generation

>>379373012

>What went wrong
You didn't blow your brains out before making this thread

>>379373164
Left are playable, right are supports, so I'm guessing it's supposed to pair up which goes with which best or something.

>>379373628
4 ghosts, the bird is Grass/Ghost too.

>>379381807
oh come on it's even fucking color coded

I hope they get rid of that silly "Pick 3 Support Sets" nonsense. Get rid of it for online multiplayer at the very least, it isn't there on local multiplayer already.

The render of them look so shiny. Most of them are pretty cool

>>379374152
Already too many fucking fire types in the game.

>>379381931
It's the one of the few designs that people aren't cherrypicking to say the whole gen sucks or being on the fence about, so they played it safe and chose it.

>>379382050
>grabs are green
>counters are blue
>breaking a grab is red, meaning attack
>counter piercing attacks have no color code

Why?

>>379373012
They announced an enhanced port yesterday and not a sequel

It's fine though, I can wait.

>>379382435
>enhanced port

There's nothing "enhanced" about it, it's a port with one new character.

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>>379373065
>only wanting fighting types
What's it like being a boring, vapid person?

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>Croagunk instead of Toxicroak
Fucking animefags, I swear to God.
>R. Pika didn't get replaced by Hawlucha

>>379373012
At first, I thought you made a tier list in which you seriously just put all the gen 1 pokemon at the top.

>>379382495
It does have at least one new game mode, and it sounds like they'll have actual online lobbies this time. Plus they'll finally get a fucking replay function.

>>379382495
They added a new 3v3 mode, split screen multiplayer, new supports and stages and proper online lobbies. Seems like a reasonable upgrade especially since the western audience never got to use the 4 arcade exclusive characters.

It wasn't just Tekken with Pokémon

>>379373012
So, OP asks "What went wrong?".
Then autists who didnt even play the game start crying about the Pokemon that got chosen like it mattered at all. Cmon, the game has Gengar or whatever that spooky fuck was called. You would still be playing this if it was good even if it had only fucking ratatas.
So I wanna ask again:
What the fuck ACTUALLY went wrong, is the gameplay shitty, not true fighting game, too slow?

>>379373012
gen 7

>>379381961
it's categorized by which generation the pokemon are in

>>379383307
Idk, I liked it, but judging by the mixed reception it's clearly not for everyone

>>379373012
No Greninja

>>379383287
It's not like Tekken at all
Calling it Pokken is the biggest bait and switch

>>379383307
OP's "What went wrong?" is about the pokemon selection you dingus why else do you think the pic is the pokemon in the game separated by gens?

>>379383683
Yeah, I looked at the thing a bit more and realized it when Gen 2's supports were an odd number.

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>>379373224
My Nigga.

Slowbro is the best poke

>>379373012
No Heracross

>>379382495
It has balance changes, new game modes, replays, and possibly online lobbies, on top of looking better than the WiiU version. How are those not enhancements?

>>379373012

Nothing. It was always going to be shit.

Now we have another year of it infesting Evo when it should be dead and buried. Thanks, Nintendo, truly!

>>379375290
I know, right? They should've also had Zoroark and Garbodor

>No hawlucha, heracross, sandshrew/sandslash, the hitmons, ursaring, slowking, politoad, ampharos, grovyle, aggron, etc

So many lameass legendary shit Pokémon and boring unevolved ones.

>>379373164
>>379387213
Man, streamboars are the worst

>play against braixen
>die befause balance is shit
>game never gets updated
>local play is a mess
>expected to pay 60 more dollaroos for slightly more content

>>379373012
Pokemon I think should be in from:
>Gen 2: Heracross, shuckle, hitmontop, or miltank
>Gen 5: Scrafty, Genesect, Bisharp, Zoroark, or Darmanitan,
>Gen 6: Aegislash (or honedge assist), Greninja, Pangoro or sylveon

>>379373012
>Assist became a fighter
Lucky Sinnoh

i'm actually VERY surprised greninja didn't get into this but while I think we can agree that we would rather have a different fighter over others the only legitimately bad character on the roster is Empoleon

I would've liked to see Greninja. There's no REAL ninja on the roster at the moment and Greninja would've been cool to fill that spot. Braixen on the other hand is kind of "ehhh" waifubait and I genuinely hate that.

>>379382495
>one new character.
oh so you had Empoleon and Scizor and Coagunk and Darkrai on Wii U?

Oh wait.

>>379383307
Too shallow for fightan too complicated for the average pokemon fan. That's all you need to know about the gameplay.
Roster was the biggest complaint and probably put a bunch of people off from buying it. With this slightly expanded roster I can now drop that complaint and I'd imagine some others will as well.

>>379388792
Sceptile is basically a ninja ingame tho, Greninja would have been cool if he was the Raven to Sceptile's Yoshimitsu so to speak

>>379389085
So, it's like Burning Blood?

Is Gengar good in the game? He was always my favorite Pokeman.

>>379374175

t. retarded owlcuck

>>379389378
He was OP as fuck, then they nerfed him for the Wii U version but he wasn't ruined, just fair.

He's really tough to play but he's stronk as fuck.

>>379375290

Your taste is what's shit.

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>That atrocious gen 2 representation
>2 Pokemon aren't fucking bipeds
The roster for this game is so fucking terrible.

>>379382512
You should know, with your taste in squid girls.

>>379373628
these are the most petty complaints I've read. if those are the games biggest problems, I might actually have to give it a try

>>379388293
At least the Pokken scene got revived again and gets a guaranteed slot in Evo

>>379375290
>>379381931
>it's bad because it's not an animal or biped
>HURR DURR GEN 5 SUCKS IS ALL I CAN SAY

God, you're a complete retard.

>>379373012
>no Hitmonchan/lee/top
>no Greninja
>no Hawlucha
>only one S&M rep
So many wasted opportunities.

>absolutely no gameplay discussion
>only arguments about useless shit like characters
you guys are the worst

>>379390216
Gameplay is ok but nothing special. It needs a sequel to refine mechanics. Not a DX version.

There's a reason that Sm4sh, Splatoon, and Kart 8 all had lasting power online for the WiiU, but Pokken didn't last more than a few months, and Switch owners are going to find that out come september or whenever the fuck this game is coming out.

>>379390351
>Sm4sh, Splatoon and Kart 8 had lasting power
Because they didn't get fucked over by TPC?

>>379390090
>no Hitmonchan/lee/top
Seriously, how did they fuck up this bad

>>379388792
>wanting Cancerninja
And that's how I know you have irredeemable shit taste. We already have fucking Lucario, stop trying to put two Lightnings in the same game.

>>379390649
>wanting Hitmonshits

>>379374260
she literally cums so hard after he rubs her

>>379389763
99% of the complaints about this game are "Slots" autism Anon. Literally every single thread will have multiple people complaining about there being no hitmons or that everything character isn't a bipedal fighting type

>complaining about pokémon that aren't bipeds

Why? What's wrong with variety? I don't particularly care for Suicune but Chandelure was one of the most interesting roster choices they made, I'd much rather have the roster be full of unique pokémon than cookie-cutter fighting types like Hitmonchan and Sawk like some people autistically want for whatever reason.

>>379373628
Yes please I need MORE forced single player content in my fucking fucking fighting game. And more hats as well apparently

>>379373012
>no scyther

dropped

>>379391384
>not wanting hats or costumes for Gardevoir

>>379388293
I hope Braixen gets nerfed, that support gain is some bullshit on top of free attack boosts. Plus her grab break attack is some real bullshit.

>>379391531
Because those couldn't have been free rigth? Honestly, I'd rather have the option of buying cosmetics then having to force myself to play a fighting game single player for extended periods of time

>>379389378
Glass cannon that relies on loops for damage. I think his Synergy Burst takes the longest to charge, but is practically an "I Win" button.

>>379387812
>implying anyone that goes to evo even watches pokken
literal crowd killer

>>379373012
Gens 2, 5, 6, and 7 need at least 3 reps.

Gen 2: Meganium

Gen 5: Ferrothorn, Hydreigon

Gen 6: Malamar, Tyrantrum

Gen 7: Salazzle, Magearna

>>379392458
>streamboar actually replies back

>>379392586
your "game" is on a level even lower than smashfags and your use of a word you learned on the fgc wiki won't change that

>>379392717
lol stfu baby

>>379392531
>ferrothorn
>Tyrantrum when Gen 2 could've just gotten Tyrannitar, who's much more notable then Meganium

>>379373012
Everything

Everything that could have gone wrong, did go wrong.

This would have been the GOAT roster:
>Pikachu (Electric)
>Charizard (Fire/Flying)
>Blastoise (Water)
>Jigglypuff (Normal/Fairy)
>Machamp (Fighting)
>Gengar (Ghost/Poison)
>Mewtwo (Psychic)
>Scizor (Bug/Steel)
>Heracross (Bug/Fighting)
>Blaziken (Fire/Fighting)
>Gardevoir (Psychic/Fairy)
>Lucario (Fighting/Steel)
>Garchomp (Dragon/Ground)
>Weavile (Ice/Dark)
>Escavalier (Bug/Steel)
>Accelgor (Bug)
>Grenina (Water/Dark)
>Hawlucha (Flying/Fighting)
>Incineroar (Fire/Dark)
>Kartana (Steel/Grass)

>The game about collecting MANY Pokemon
>Like a WHOLE LOT
>Like there's specifically 700+ because everyone has a favourite
>Less than 20 Pokemon on starting roster
What an absolute, literal, joke.

>>379393178
>not wanting to whale on opponents with triple iron ball-tipped whips and roll voer them with your spike-covered body

Gen 2 was a tough one to think of a new character, but Meganium does need more love. I do agree that Tyranitar is a good choice.

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>>379393178
>Not Dunsparce
Shit tastes, the lot of you

>>379393819
No more joke characters.

>>379393615
>I profoundly dont understand game development, let me display that fact for everyone to see.

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Chandelure is one of my favorite pokemon and I do not like how it's portrayed as if it's some kawaii schoolgirl.

>>379393894
Don't know how you construe that from my post.

Yes, it takes half a year to make one character. For some reason. In that case, wait until you have 30+ before even announcing the fucking game. You're right that I'm no expert; the point is that the people who ARE experts could have handled this shitshow so much better. Pokken is simply a club treehouse for Japanese game devs.

>>379373065
>Fighting game must only have fighting types
This is so autistic. Every Pokemon fights.

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>>379393874
>It's not a biped, so it's a joke character
Man fuck you and people like you, this game has such a boring selection of characters for a fighting game about monsters.
He's one of the more iconic gen 2 mons, there's absolutely no reason he would be an exclusively memey contribution (Unless you think all of the Pokemon that don't have edgy pre-fight animations are joke characters or something)

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Where's bara cat?

>>379383287
Several tekken moves are used by the pokemon actually.

But id agree its dumb to even imply its like tekken. Plays nothing like it.

>>379394047
Nobody's going to invest the money to make a massive roster for a fighting game the first time around. That's beyond retarded.

The literal only reason most rosters can get big is building on the base of the previous roster with each sequel. You can't just jump to MvC2 or Sm4sh levels. It's literally not possible. First entry fighting games will always have smaller rosters.

>>379381487
>The game is basically RPS.
You can say that about literally any fighting game though.

>>379394210
I'm with you.

Just don't do it on literally any franchise whose entire basis is every single person having a different favourite character. How come Digimon fighting games never managed to fuck this up?

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>>379373012
My nigger didn't get in. Thanks for nothing (((Uri Geller))).

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>>379393615
That's not the problem.

The real problem is despite having 700+ viable candidates, we still ended up with 2 Pikachus and Mewtwos. What the fuck.

>>379394085
>It's not a biped, so it's a joke character

Point out where I said that. I like using Suicune. But Dunsparce's looks, stats, and everything else about him says "joke". The only redeemable thing is he can get Serene Grace.

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>>379394587
>Competitive viability in the main game determines the roster of Pokken
What the fuck am I reading right now?

They should have made this game back in 2000. The roster would be perfect and no one would argue about it, because it would be the game we're all waiting for.

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>>379373012
I fucking hate that instead of being a full 3D fighter it's this weird hybrid abortion. Why the fuck is it called Pokken when it is ultimately nothing like Tekken?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13133486

Go motherfuckers go

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My favorite pokemon is in there, so no problem!

How is Dragonite not a fighter? Why fucking Croagunk? Who thought it was a good idead to appeal to Gen IV fags?

>Sceptile
>Blaziken
>No Swampert.
I will never not be salty.

Are the controls satisfying at least?

Looks like it doesn't know whether it wants to be Budokai Tenkaichi to not

>>379373164
>Also this game is boring as fuck to watch

Like all games.

>>379373271
I think he's referring to how the camera is often behind your character like in a third person shooter/action game as opposed to having a more traditional camera for a fighting game

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