what are some games that allow you to recruit the villain of

>>379355810
super mario rpg

Tales of Xillia 2

>>379355810
Kamen Rider Chronicle

>>379355810
What is this meme.

didnt golden sun do this? in some way..

>>379355810
Is he going to become a regular gag character like the other villains?

TFW Yamcha is replacing Frieza

>>379356784
Either Buu appearing in the new opening and ED is a ruse or Frieze gets sent back to Hell before the tournament begins.

>>379356784
>>379356910
I think this might be one of the last times we see him.

>>379356973
He's joining Universe 4

You just know he and Frost are going to do some shit

>>379355810
Personally I'm just wondering why they haven't used this opportunity to bring back Cell. He's competent enough to keep his shit together and not chimp out when given the chance to come back to life.

>>379357093
too hard to animate

>>379357093
Toei can't handle his BIG BLACK SPOTS

>>379357093
Cell was turned into nothing

>>379357093
so...is Goku or..even Vegeta gonna do anything about Nappa or Raditz?

I mean Raditz was Goku's brother.
Don't those two deserve a chance since they were pretty much in the same boat as Vegeta?

>>379357307
Then he literally regenerated from a single cell kinda like how Cooler was only q hunk of skull and Big Gete Star did that shit.

Fuck I wish the movies were canon.

>>379357162
Can't Toei hire more talented people? Money shouldn't be an issue with them.

>>379357162
>>379357265
Wait really? I totally forgot that digital animation means those fucking spots would be a bitch to animate.
>>379357307
He was still a living being even if he was artificially created. I'm pretty sure her be in Hell too, unless I'm forgetting some important shit from the series.
>>379357439
Whay this nigger said too. If not Cell then bring those fuckers back. Tenkaichi 2 even did a fucking what if moment with redeemed Raditz.

>>379357493
Gohan obliterated him after he regenerated from a single cell

>>379357493
No, he was turned into nothing. That was the point. No cells were left or he wouldn't have died.

>>379357439
They're too weak to be relevant, and nobody particularly likes them. Vegeta only got a pass because he was alive for long enough to form relationships with the people around him.

>>379357439
Goku was all about muh son and said fuck Raditz whereas Frieza literally murdered his best friend since childhood and genocided his race. Goku isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

>>379355810
Now I cant even make fun of those shitty dbz multiverse comics because dbz super exists. Jesus

>>379357493
Didn't the multiple universe reveal and the Future Trunks arc imply that they can still be canon in another timeline of the universe or am I just thinking about how Xenoverse tried to rationalize it?

>>379357676
Humans died out in universe 6 (the only other universe with humans) but there's probably infinite timelines where a Cell exists

>>379357587
>>379357597
But Buu came back and Kid Buu was reincarnated as some lil poo in loo kid.

Seriously though when the fuck is Super actually going to coincide with the real ending of Z? .

>>379357618
Frieza is actually strong tho
>>379357439
Nappa and Raditz are both weak as fuck, not worth bringing back. Vegeta himself killed Nappa

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>>379357636
Same here. I want to like it but I can't, there's nothing redeeming and it's just plain shit.

>REEEEE stop taking children's cartoons seriously it's FUN BRO
Hate this meme.

>>379357909
Fat Buu got wished back to life didn't he

>>379357909
Buu didn't come back, the good one was spit out by Super Buu when he became Kid Buu. Goku wished that Kid Buu would come back as a good guy and Yemma basically put his spirit in a baby, he's coming back the slow way.

>>379357610
...but they're saiyans.

doesn't that mean they could all become more powerful?

>Why isn't this children's cartoon cool for my twenty-something / thirty-something tastes?

You guys are idiots.

>>379356392
fpbp

>>379355810
>People still give a fuck about Dragon Ball
It's not the 90s anymore anon

>>379358303
And you need to wear a fedora.

>>379355810
Chrono Cross

>>379357093
Freeza has Golden Freeza state which should be stronger than Perfect Cell at full power. Plus, Cell doesn't seem like a character that could get coerced by Beerus' destruction powers. Ergo would be useless as a teammate

>>379357265
Lol if this is true

>>379358230
They already have Goten and Trunks, which are already more powerful than R and N, and could be trained into powerhouses in a short time if needed, with the bonus they aren't murdering psychopaths. They just don't care that much about the total strength of their planet, at least until the ToP came around.

>>379358454
So, do you turn on the TV, watch an episode of Barney the Dinosaur and then complain in the internet about the writing being childish and predictable, how the show focuses way too much in the children and how the writers forgot to use Barney's dinosaur abilities?

>>379358613
Cell likes tournaments though and games though. Freeza would just stab them in the back at any time.

>>379357439
>>379357537
i want raditz back so bad, he got shafted so hard, same with nappa. but at least my nigga cell got some screen time in............gt

Baldurs gate 2

>>379357439
Don't know about Raditz but Nappa was already wished back to life and became a movie director

>>379357162
>>379357265
>heh I'm back and only green with no spots now because the spots didn't represent how perfect I am :^)
wow just solved that problem

Uhh since the Super Dragon Balls can grant any wish, can't they just wish for infinite wishes?

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>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW who watched dragon ball past the cell saga
>there are people who actually watch this new version, "super," where goku goes super saiyan blue hair and fights the "black version" of himself, all animated by some cheap ass studio from north korea or some shit

>>379358968

>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW who dont share the same taste as others

BREAKING NEWS

>>379358785
Or they could just animate them like in Chowder. Could be pretty.

>>379358956
I was thinking that too

>>379357807
They were brought back though

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>>379356462
He's also really fun to play as.

>>379355810

Shadow Hearts 2.

Sort of.

https://youtu.be/zZtuZNAJHMM

>>379358785
Cell is also nowhere as popular as Freeza, especially in Japan

>>379359240
>especially in Japan
I did not know that

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>>379355810
Is Dragon Ball Super the anime equivalent of stockholm syndrome? How can people still watch this shit?

>>379358781
wait what?

dragonball super just does nothing for me

>>379359240
It's more like Toriyama likes him more and pushes him to the forefront so he's more relevant.

>>379358968
Hi Pedro

>>379359302
k nobody cares

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>>379358956
>use Super Dragonballs

>I wish for infinite wishes on a zero cooldown
>I wish that no one could ever be granted a wish ever again, with the exception of myself

>>379359302
It made me hate DB

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>>379359403
>he cared enough to reply

>>379359403
my mom does

>>379359289
>DUDE NO ONE CARES
>Just have fun lmao XD
>go watch moeshit nerd :^)
>dude it's a children cartoon, ITS NOT ALLOWED TO BE GOOD!!
>it's NOT bad, the characters are fun
People find all sorts of ways to defend it.

>>379358956
I remember that was the plot of a Timon and Pumbaa episode.

>>379359295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkNxOk3h_U8

>>379357439
this.

if they would flex their back really hard they might become ssj.

>>379359289
what i dont get is why everyone films reactions for it.

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What happened to Launch? Wasn't Webfoot trying to make Legacy of Goku 4?

I think it would be cool as fuck if some alternate universes were like Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger even if it's retarded.

>>379359729
It's become a standard black weeb thing for some reason.

>>379359607
I loved that show.

>>379357439
i was just just thinking about raditz. literally goku's brother and hes just dead as fuck.

>>379357439
>no arc where Raditz reconciles with his brother in hell
>or him getting pissed that Vegeta killed Nappa
>or him and Nappa chilling in hell

>>379357953
>weak as fuck

why dont they just abuse senkai boost to the max?
Dende can heal them. Or just use magic beans

>>379355810
Is this Super? Why does Super even exist?

>>379360305
Something something muh Saiyan Pride. The only time that I can remember it being abused is when Vegeta forced Krillin to shoot a hole in his abdomen, and that's when he believed with his little Saiyan heart that he could be a Super Saiyan and beat Frieza after that boost.

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>>379360373

>>379360609
Why can't those damn Japs just let Dragon Ball die in peace

>>379355810
.Hack GU volume 3, only at the very end of the game though

>>379357618
>frieza murdered hsi best friend since childhood

what???
sauce?

>>379357093
Cell was "perfect" meaning his strength caps out at just under the power of Super Saiyan 2. Even after the Zenkai boost from blowing himself up Gohan still beat him.

Basically anything actually created on Earth is shit, except for our food apparently.

>>379360373
Because it's actually pretty good.

>>379357439
In all honestly the biggest shock to me for Dragon Ball Super if Goku and Raditz ever have another scene together. I can't see how just any scene with them again wouldn't be a positive for viewers even if it's just a one time filler thing.

Seems like really wasted potential there in terms of character development.

>>379360809
He's talking about Krillin numbnuts

>>379357307
pretty sure in GT Cell was in Hell with the others

>>379360848
Do not lie on the internet pls

>>379361082
>gt
>canon

Should I watch the rest of Dragonball series? I got to the episode when Yamcha was about to be introduced and dropped it for some reason. Are any of the Dragonball movies any good outside of context?

The Z movies/OVAs just do something for me when I just want to pop something on especially History of Trunks, Bardock, Broly 1&2, Janemba, and the Cooler movies. There's this really cool moment in the first Cooler movie when they're fighting underwater and the buttrock sounds like it's distorted because of that.

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>>379361087
>i dont like it so its bad

>>379360823
>Basically anything actually created on Earth is shit, except for our food apparently.
Dr. Gero created cyborgs that were stronger than final form Frieza, aka the strongest mortal in existence (at the time.)
Using his science he turned two delinquents into beings that easily surpassed the unbeatable.
And then created a biological being even stronger than them.

That's not shit. After that we had to go into the realms of gods and demons to find a challenge.

>>379361181
Yes, the original dragon ball actually feels like it was done perfectly. It just flows so well

>>379360823
Cell also had DNA from saiyans and Frieza's species, so that means he can train and surpass every one of them.

Toei or Toriyama just didn't want to draw Cell like others have already said.

>>379359289
I feel like it has good ideas/moments, but is completely overrun with shitty filler and gag scenes.

They're making weak/forgotten characters relevant again, but there's so many moments of just shitty animation and inconvenient or unnecessary dialogue that lasts way too long.

>>379357019
fuck off cuckdom

Trail in the sky

>>379359289
because it's fun.

>>379361251
the problem is all the people on earth who could have made great shit like Gero with his androids all got pissed off at Goku because of shit he did as a kid and tried to kill him
and then Goku killed half of them leaving the smartest people on the planet being people like Bulmas Father who are idiotic genius's who make pointless inventions that no one wants

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Make room for best girl.

>>379361240
I oddly want to kill it.
Like stab it in the gut then push it into the water.

>>379361632
so is there a female sayian now? post more

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>>379361632
No, no. Fuck off, ningen.

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>>379361771
You called for Caulifla?

Cell doesn't have a soul, he was a bio machine not an actual living being in terms of how to get into heaven/hell. The only time we saw him in Hell was during a filler section of the Buu Saga and GT, both are non canon.

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>>379361082
They mention that Frieza is an unusual case, someone who hasn't repented.
Which means Cell probably repented and reincarnated, if anything.

Frieza is a better villain then him anyway, Zamasu beats him out, in all honestly. All he has going for him is nostalgia.

>>379361942
is that seriously her name? kek

>>379361771
2

>>379357093
>>379357439
The last episode pretty strongly implied that all the other villains repented and were reincarnated by now, since Goku talked about how unusual it was for Frieza to still be in Hell.
Yes, they appeared in GT and in filler, but that's not canon as far as Super is concerned- it's take on Hell is completely different.

>>379362020
There's also Kale, who's basically a female Broly.

>>379358230
>they're saiyans

While they have the same Power up bullshit, and the ability to turn super saiyan, they wouldn't get too far.

Goku and Vegeta are a very rare case of intense training and perseverance that no one else can match, even within their own family they outclass everyone.

>>379355810
Are you fucking kidding me?
They are bringing up Frieza AGAIN?

>>379362243
The only ones that can match Goku and Vegeta would be Buu (with some training) and Frieza (with some more training)

Frieza in general has vastly more potential then either of them, in his Golden Form he doesn't even use god ki yet he can catch up to SSB.

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>final real boss of the first game is playable in the 3rd
>he joins your party
>he's even stronger
AS CLOUDS FALL, SAKURA BLOOM

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>>379357439
Goku hates the absolute shit out of Raditz

>>379357019
Why do people think this? Are the other universes so shit they would need to poach?

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Revere Him! Praise Him! Quitela's Explosive Plan!!

>>379361942
Any ludes of her?

>>379361735
Dragon Ball Super? Yeah, me too.

>>379357610
I feel bad for Radditz because the dude basically had that rare Saiyan equivalent of compassion. He was as murderous as Vegeta and Nappa ever were but his core motivation was reuniting with family. He was expressing tough love as best he knew it back when Vegeta was genociding bug people out of boredom.

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Zamasu is stronger then Beerus.

>>379362654
Nigga would barely stand a chance against Champa

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Why does /v/ always have better anime threads than /a/?
Every
Single
Time

>>379362596
would you a Quitela?

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>>379361771

>>379362721
It's kind of a long-standing thing here where every board is fantastic for discussion on every topic but the board's source material.

>>379362530
Fucking hell Goku.

>>379362718
He already killed the alternate timeline Beerus before fusing

>>379362867
not in a 1 on 1 fight.

>>379355810
Oh great another "what are some games" thread about the latest episode of this trending show.
Will probably hit 500 replies courtesy of our hard working mods.

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>>379362823
I'd pinch his cheeks while grabbing his cheeks, if ya know what I mean.

>>379362867
He killed Supreme Kai which killed Beerus.

>>379362867
Except that's because he died as a result of the Supreme Kai getting killed in Future Trunks' timelines

>>379357093
Cell is the most disliked Z villain. They're not going to waste time bringing him back.

>>379362968
Being autistic enough to complain about a thread on an anonymous board because it doesn't suit your tastes.
Is there anything more shallow and pathetic?

>>379360848
You actually believe that?

I hope "THAT MAN" is Mr. Satan or Andriod 16. It will probably be Yamcha though. Would be pretty amazing if Broly became canon since SSJ Berserk is a thing now.

>>379363106
how would it be android 16? he was never wished back and u saw his chip get destroyed/power down

but then again its super

>>379362641
He was weak as fuck, and he needed as many people in his back pocket as he could get. It's like the beta males that leave communities and group together in order to hold some semblence of power in complex animal hierarchies.

>>379363005
>Is there anything more shallow and pathetic?
Making non-vidya threads on /v/ and liking dbs.

>>379359662
I don't give a fuck what anyone says, this is canon.

>>379363178
>Merh rules
Holy shit you'd be fun at parties.

>>379362654
Anyone else feel like they dropped the ball by not revealing Black ended up becoming the God of Destruction in his timeline?

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Whats worse?

Head cannon fags?

Or

Movies are cannon fags?

>>379363001
>Who is Bibidi/babidi/dabura/raditz/Ginyu force
Cell is less popular than Frieza and Buu but is still very popular

>>379363207
>lul he follows da rulz wat a nerd xD
You'll be the ideal student.

Bayonetta 2

>>379362971
i wil gold his ears while giving him his mozarella stick if you know what I mean

>>379362718
They remark multiple times in the anime that he's stronger then anything they've seen before.
Vegito is an SSJ3 increase at minimum, Anime Zamasu was relativistic to that (and ever increasing).
Beerus sweats to KK Goku.
He also got stronger after he died because of zenkai. He was called a "cheat character" because of how unbeatable he was, and it shows with the multitudes of asspulls used to off him and them having to bring in literally god to do it.

>>379363295
at least the movies are semi-cannon through super and xenoverse acknowledgement

>>379356784
he joins U4 and Yamcha replaces him

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>watching DBS nstead of based Kevin's anime
Who superior taste in anime here?

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>>379363295
GT is canon are the biggest faggots can't believe i forgot to add them

>>379363316
Being this ass blasted you have to respond to my response.
Autism at its finest hahahaha
literally git gud m8 i can rspkt tht m8

>>379363314
>Ginyu Force
>hated

damn good joke, "Vegata no!" was one of the most iconic moments in DBZ.

>>379362010
>Zamasu better than Cell

I'll never understand why people love Zamasu so much. His dialogue is repetitive, his personality is generic, and there's nothing more to his character than hating ningens.

Cell is easily the most shallow and worst villain of the Z villains, but fucking hell, at least he could be entertaining to watch.

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>>379363325
Good taste~

>>379363457
iconic=/=good

>>379363410
I see where this is going.
Before you go full retard the mods will erase this shitty thread i hope

>>379362010
Zamazu was boring. Cell was way better and he's my least liked DBZ villain

What is the point of reviving DBZ? Can't they let Goku rest in piece and maybe start up a Dragon Quest anime instead?

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Why is he so cute?

>>379363523
People still unanimously loved every fight except for the body swap one.

>>379363314
Nobody cares about side villains. Out of the main villains, Cell is easily the most disliked because of how shallow he was.

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>>379363470
Zamasu is entertaining to watch though. (at least in my opinion)
He got more character development then half of the Z villains and was a legitimate threat. He's also 3 characers in one.

>>379362980
He didn't even do that. He died fighting Dabura and Babidi with Trunks. Zamasu only started in that timeline because Beerus was already dead. (At least, that's what happened in the manga. I think the anime may have left it vague.)

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>>379363596

>>379363691
The backstory of Trunks should be the same in the anime.

>>379360305
Not enough time for that

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>>379358968
>there are people

>>379363687
Cell was also 3 characters in one, basically a new personality with each form

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I'll tell OP when he can tell me of games where the allegedly weak deliveryman in your universe is actually one of the strongest beings in another when cleanly shaven.

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>>379360373
Because Japan liked Battle of the Gods so much, the made Revival of Frieza. And they loved that so much, they decided to adapt it into an anime series. And apparently someone keeps asking for more and more, so they keep producing more and more.

I personally like Super to some degrees. It's stupid, but stupid fun. Also, waifus.

>>379363687
It's cool to see him develop into a villain since we pretty much never see that for any other DB big bad, but once he actually BECOMES a villain, he's just too generic and uninteresting.

It's like the reverse of Fat Buu, where seeing him develop into a good guy was great, but then he's reduced to being a boring joke character.

>>379359289
Yes, for me at least. It's shit, but it has its moments, and I don't wanna be out of the loop. Also like that episode of Genshiken, where someone said something like, "It's interesting to see if it'll be interesting or not."

Honestly, it could be forgivable if Goku wasn't so absolutely, irrevocably shit.

>new characters/races look worse and worse the more new characters/races get intoduced

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>>379363851
>Monaka
>Beerus "lies" and said he was beaten by him

>Whis says there's a GoD that actually did beat him
>Iwen = Monaka in disguise

Holy shit please be real

>>379363751
Is he talking about Evolution? Yeah that shit sucked ass, but reviving your old series only for it to become shit is just sad.

disgusting, dragonball is literally normie chad tier

>>379364120
it's just as shit as z post namek

>>379358542
>of the previous game

He was never a villain. Only Frog thought so with a heavy bias.

>>379363974
I think he was pretty interesting all around, mostly because both Black and Zamasu became more muderous as time went on. Once they fused, they became something else (they shot a hole through the fucking planet and caused ridiculous amounts of chaos just to intimidate)

When he fused, both Black's whole saiyan fighting instinct thing and Zamasu's ideologue inspired character mixed together and he turned into one confident motherfucker who then became unstable as fuck because of it.

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>brolly still isn't mainline series canon
>raditz will never return
>goten and trunks are GT tier useless, when everything from Buu saga pointed to them being the main heroes, if not extremely good backup
>Fusion dance Gogeta never ever
This was a pain i didn't know would ever come back since GT

>>379364163
No wonder why the /v/ermins love it so much.

>>379364163
I would sooner hand that title to Naruto, then One Piece, then Bleach

Why did Gokus need to fight strong guys go from being a great part of his character that you could admire in DBZ into it being something that makes him a fucking retard in Super?

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>>379364163
everyone likes dragon ball

>>379364308
You have no idea what you're talking about. Dragon Ball is the original shounen manga that spawned everything you just listed.

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MATA KISAMA KA PEDURO!?????

>>379357516
Hahaha, oh wow. You've never worked with business jews. Of course they COULD afford it. That's not relevant.. They say 'this is your budget, have fun cunts' and that is the end of it. At the end of the day spending more money isn't likely to make them any more money than they'll make with a cheaper product, so why not keep that money to blow their jew noses on?

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>>379364401
Because when you're the ultimate hero, there's nowhere to go but down.

Super's problem is he went SO far down so quickly, even the furries are banting him for it.

>>379362157
This, its implied that after a certain time, villians have their souls reincarnated and move on. Hence why we havent seen kid buu, because almost as soon as he died he was reincarnated into uub. Frieza is hellbent on getting revenge so his soul has "unfinished business"

>>379362721
Because we can give healthy discussion without going full weeb. I'm sure they discuss video games better than us.

>>379364857
>new arc is Cell being purified and reincarnated on Earth, only to become a villain again in his new like
Pls be excite

Wait
I was not aware Cell was the most disliked main villain.
My opinion's always been Frieza>Cell>Buu (though all are great). I thought that was more or less the consensus for some reason. Was I thinking of arc rankings, or have I really been wrong all this time?

>>379357516
>>379364694
My guess is that the problem is bad scheduling, not money. I don't have a source, but I've read that they rushed Super into production, which would explain why the early episodes looked so awful.

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>>379358680
What ARE Barney's abilities, out of curosity? What sort of power level does this purple terror possess?

Are people still bitching about how the shittiest villain (aka Cell) didn't come back instead of the best villain (aka Freeza)?

>>379356909
Fake news.

>>379365015
Doubt it. Next villian is probably gonna be Frieza again

>>379363882
Exactly, super is me not taking dragonball too seriously and just enjoying all the stupid what ifs they always wanted to do.

>>379364694
This is actually true. Toei used to spend considerably more effort on the One Piece anime too about 20 arcs ago during Enies Lobby. Then they realized this was One Piece and the ratings were staying the same even if they spent less money so they just stuck to it. Now the anime sucks and reeks of QUALITY to the point where DBS looks much better in comparison.

>>379365121
He's not. I genuinely like him more than Frieza, but the guys who are trying to say he was the worst Z villain are memeing

>>379365196
Next villain gonna be the grand priest

>>379361541
>but is completely overrun with shitty filler and gag scenes.
A true Dragon Ball show, indeed. I mean... How can you use this complaint after having watched the classics which do the exact same thing but SO MUCH worse?

>>379365295
I'm pretty sure they're saving him for the end.

>>379360823
I'm guessing u forgot the part where Cell was beat 6v1

There was no way of knowing how Gohan wouldve held up agaisnt Cell if Gohan hadnt gotten injured but it still ended up being a 6v1.

So is Android 17 canonically as strong as SSB Goku now?

>>379365381
I'm pretty sure only Gohan and Goku actually did any damage to Cell

>>379365432
Goku and 17 were holding back and fighting at arbitrary percentages.
Nobody knows, but it's still dumb as fuck

what happens if super saiyan god goku does the fusion dance with super saiyan god vegeta while wearing the potara earrings

>>379365291
In Japan, Cell is the most disliked. The Nips have a lot of love and nostalgia for the Frieza arc so they love Frieza. Buu and his friendship with Satan gives him a pass but Cell has nothing. I think there was even a rumor that Toriyama's editors didn't even like Cell's design, made him look too weird and buggy.

>>379364857
I feel like Kid Buu was way more evil than Freiza and would never repent like Freiza

Then again Buu was a special case since he was more of a cosmic being with the way he was created along with the universe, so the rules may not apply to him

>>379365432
They kept it kind of ambiguous, so who knows.

>>379358613
just make golden perfect ssjgssj cell then

>>379364540
all of those are more pleb tier normie shit than DBZ

hell, i even think S-Cry-Ed had a better form of pacing and story telling than naruto and one piece

>>379365015
>Cell was reincarnated into Pan

could you even imagine?

>>379365556
Perfect cell was hated.
Imperfect cell? Have no idea if it was hated, but it was a far better villian then any villian in that arc other then gero and 20.

>>379365458
You mean Vegeta? Goku wasnt part of the final fight. And those guys were definitely doing something to Cell, he was getting angry and using some of his energy on them. Thats how vegeta got the idea of helping because he saw it was working even though minutes before he said it was useless. If they didnt do anything he couldve just ignored them.

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>gohan base=blue goku
>Confirmed to be getting a new form
What are some games where you can be the strongest character?

>>379355810
What if you can recruit him in the 1st game and in the sequel(where he's still a villain) like Lezard Valeth?

Unironically Witcher 3.

Letho is gangster as hell. with that louisiana accent hes got too. makes me wish for better viper gear builds in the game

>>379365205
>This is actually true.
Was there any doubt? I thought it was common knowledge that studios worked this way. No businessman ever wants to spend more money than strictly neccesary. At the end of the day making quality products is not a concern, making successful ones will do nicely.

>>379365556
Editor-kun only disliked the second form and wanted Toriyama to hurry it up so Cell could be perfect already.
I'm just pissed that Buu's development got derailed so we could have Frieza again, even though we had him twice in the span of a year and half. What sucks even worse is that Buu got dropped because he fell asleep again.
It wasn't funny to bait and switch like that in the U6 tournament, and it's not funny now.

>>379355810
baldurs gate 2 throne of bhaal

>>379365727
>somehow worse than SSJ5

good god, they can't just become the rainbow sayian lanterns and think that's good idea can they?

>>379357093
>we could have Norio Wakamoto's voice again
and this is why DBS is shit

>>379363776
blow hole -> eat senzu
repeat

should not take that long

>>379365521
Gogeta with potaras. But this is only if its on the same sides. If it was regular then they would be drawn to each other by force and cant do the dance.

>>379365785
I was hype when he pushed Goku out of their practice ring in that practice fight. Then he fell asleep. It's like they don't want us to like Super.

Is it ever explained why only Gohan got his potential unlocked? I mean if would have been really handy if Goku and his friends were at their absolute best in case something huge happened like a big cross universe tournament where the losing universes would be erased.

Goten and Trunks are far stronger than half the fighters on the U7 roster, there's no good reason to exclude them.

>>379365965
they did, they asked old kai to do it but since they didn't think of it until really late in the game it was no good because it takes to long

>>379365573
Buu was more evil, but he was mindless. There's absolutely no way to control buu. That's why his soul was reincarnated instantly. I mean he made it to otherworld without being dead, so I cant see any way they could contain him, especially in a tournament where you cant kill.

>>379365965
muh pride

>>379365974
They don't take fights seriously

They could have beat Super Buu but they fucked around

>>379365974
At this point they are nothing but background characters and noone wants to do anything with them

>>379365974

children can't save the universe

>>379366087
Goku used to do it all time before the time skip

>>379365943
I feel like Toriyama couldn't figure out what he wanted Buu to do once the ToP started, so he just scrapped him being there.
Seriously, these bait and switch tactics aren't funny. I get Toriyama likes to put comedy above all with his writing, but there's no laughs on either time he's done this.

>>379365710
vegeta didn't hurt cell, he distracted his focus off the kamehameha

>>379366059
Actually super buu was holding back, since he felt Gohan KI and saved gotenks in case he needed to absorb him.

>>379365121
Depends on who you ask.

Normies who grew up watching DBZ and only watch some Youtube clips from time to time will tell you that Cell and his arc are the best things ever, while anyone who actually knows what they're talking about regarding DB will tell you they're the worst villain and arc of Z.

>>379362507
Fast Craft Man is fucking insane.
Nigga gets like five turns a pop and regularly outspeeds enemies during fucking AMBUSHES, thereby allowing you to basically run away for free and retry the battle again no matter the circumstances.

Not to mention he's abusrdly strong, has pretty good orbal lines, and can cover like half the fucking field in one turn AND has an AoE craft

I legitimately feel bad for the bosses he facerolls. Half of their HP just vanishes in one turn for them while a Grail Sphere'd buffed blonde ninja just rips them a new asshole.

>>379366130
I am pretty sure one day he woke up and played FREEZA FREEEZA FREEEZA and decided to add him to the tournament

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>browsing the thread
>people dislike Cell

Is this...actually a thing? Cell is fucking great. I thought everyone loved Cell, though everyone is secondary to Frieza in terms of out and out villains.

I mean, I've not watched a single episode of anything beyond GT but I still have a nostalgic love of DBZ to be outraged at this shit tier opinion

>>379366037
I meant between all the time since Gohan did it up to before the tournament was even announced. There's always a big bad of some form or another popping up in their lives with a majority of the cast being nothing more than jobbers who couldn't really do anything against said threat. Wouldn't it have made sense to at some point to make sure everyone was fighting at their full potential the next time a big evil tried to destroy Earth?

>>379365121
It's only Perfect Cell that nobody likes. His first form was good.

>>379366059
We had scenes about Roshi overcoming his perversion, so I don't see why can't have one about Gotenks, or the guys who make him, understanding the stakes of the ToP and resolving to take it seriously.

>>379366254
Japanese fans are dumb, they hate Gohan as well

>>379366169
Even before with fat buu they didnt take fights seriously. And were extremely stubborn when training with piccollo

>>379366169
Not in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, where they fought originally.

>>379366254
>nostalgic love

That's the only reason anybody would like Cell.

>>379366283
You're thinking of Semi Perfect Cell when you say nobody likes him

>>379366334

well that's because they're leagues stronger the piccolo

would you listen to a guy who's a shitload weaker than you?

>>379360823
>Basically anything actually created on Earth is shit
Didn't 17 just fight Goku to a stalemate or some shit

>>379366353
Him too, but Perfect Cell is about as disliked. He's the most shallow and underdeveloped of the big 3 DBZ villains.

>>379366392
I don't see how thats an arguement to what I said. You're proving they're stubborn and won't listen to anybody

TOP is a team fight

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This looks like a bad fanfiction

>>379366392
Individually, they're much weaker. Goten was getting pushed into a corner by fucking Chi-Chi, and Trunks was floored and almost cried from one punch of Vegeta's. They may be Super Saiyans, but they're not even at Frieza's level while unfused.

>>379365974
>>379366298


I highly doubt they'd let them join especially since spoilers of the next couple of episodes say that one of the rules is that you're instantly erased from existance if you're knocked out of the ring

>Goku loves to train
>doesn't have enough time because his wife keeps bitching at him to do so real work
>collecting the Dragon Balls is basically child's play at this point in the game
Why doesn't Goku just use the Dragon Balls to wish for his own personal Hyperbolic Time Chamber in his backyard?

>>379362548

>Why do people think this?

because they're idiots who probably saw some fuck on YouTube discuss it

seriously it's one thing to spy on another universe but you can't fucking poach people from other universes to represent the best of your mortals

>>379366347
He wasn't taking it seriously, just toying actually both of them were just toying around, gotenks only got serious when he got out and found out everyone was eaten

>>379366351

Nostalgic love is the only reason anyone should love Dragon Ball Z, and I mean specifically Z, because it is beautiful nonsense that is far too long for its own good. I will always love it, while also knowing that if I had never seen it and gave it a go today as an adult, I wouldn't be make it past the titanic arc on Namek.

>>379366321
No Gohan deserves that.

>too arrogant to kill Cell when he had the chance, ends with Goku sacrificing himself
>powers up to defeat Buu but gets cocky AGAIN, all his training goes to waste since Buu just absorbs him
>gets married and stops training solidifying his status as jobber

Honestly have no expectations of this idiot for the upcoming tournament. I know Toriyama wanted to make him the main character after Cell but he just keeps sucking and it's impossible to root for him. Doesn't help that japs only want the racially pure characters like Goku and Vegeta to have all the spotlight.

>>379366706
Someone has to take the job. Thats his function.

>>379366447
I guarantee you Buu holds that honor.
After he starts absorbing people and getting some real personality, he just ends up being a blander version of Perfect Cell. And when he turns into Kid Buu, they're just hastily scrambling him back from before he started absorbing people. On top of that, this is all after somewhere around 60 episodes dedicated to Buu. To spend that long to just go back to square 1 is ridiculous
I understand if you don't like Perfect Cell, but there's no way you can honestly believe your opinion of him is the consensus

>>379358613

You're forgetting that Cell is more of a retarded combat obsessed chimp than any other character on the show.

>>379362212
>>379362020
>>379361942

You are all now painfully reminded of that autist anon from the Xenoverse/2 threads that had the twins Colli and Flowa as two of the characters he played as.

You are also painfully reminded that he also had another female saiyan named Kale.

>>379366890
Yeh Cell wanted to test his power, he had no goals but to simply fight but then he created duper columbine 2 and got do outmatched it was ridiculous how it played out.

>>379358781
fuck off you autist
samefagging to this reply is obvious

>>379367042
come on now, we're all autistic for caring about dragon ball

He also had another character for a fusion between his twins, no?

>>379363380
This. Leaks been out.

>>379366632
He would die of old age before the month was over outside. He would abuse the absolute fucking shit out of it if it was so conveniently accessible

>>379365965
Goku and Vegeta are the kind of guys that would tell Supreme Kai to fuck off if he asked them about it and go into the Time Chamber instead

>>379368692
It would also be the best sex of all time for Chi-chi
Every single day when Goku comes out he's got a year of pent up desire and by the end of the month she's in a wheelchair

>>379368748
Elder Kai brought it up as something they could do with Goku to boost their chances in the ToP, but then they remembered they only have a few hours before it starts and the ritual takes 25.
They could have gone in the HTC to do it, but Vegeta blew it up for no good reason again

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>>379368863
>goku has canonically never kissed his wife

>>379369432
>Chi-Chi is basically a rapist
>And was in a house with Goten, mostly alone, for 7 years
>Goten went Super Saiyan due to intense psychological stress or trauma while 'training' with Chi-Chi one day, but she prefers him to look exactly like Goku
>Lets Goten train and fight, possibly as a reward for something

Alright no more beating around the bush. Chi-Chi molests Goten.

>>379370314
DBZ uses the characteristics of its original animation really well, whereas early DBS does not make use of the advantages of digital animation at all. It gets better in the bigger fight scenes, like every single scene in the Zamasu arc, because it's better at portraying smooth fight sequences than traditional animation. It really is just missing a pass for proper shading, honestly.

>>379370314
I like that one cape shot, Piccolo did look like Batman. Too bad everything else is shit, just like the soulless crap that is DBS

>>379363389
Is Tiger still getting fucked over by nearly everyone for joining the Miracles?

I don't watch children cartoons anymore, can i get the tl;dr of Dragonball Super?

>>379371525
Depends Are you a DBZ fan or a DBZ Nostalgiafag ?

>>379371785
I was a big Dragonball fan, but I also watched DBZ, cell saga, Buu saga

>>379371525
Toriyama pulls everything he can out of his ass to make an anime that can never be nearly as good as Z

Bump for lord Frieza!

>>379359289
It only takes up 20 minutes of my uneventful Saturday nights, so I just watch it even if I despise 80% of the things going on

>>379371525
if you cared you'd be watching this children's cartoon.

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>290 posts of anime shits

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>>379374985

beat me to it.

>>379375128
Hell, with a mod you can even have a recruitable Irenicus. Now that's a party for ascending god of murder.

>>379371247
No, he's friends with NJPW again. The final fight is going on now.