Nintendo is not like Sony, they will never release remast-

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>>379294238
Are you retarded?

Just a message for any normies reading this that may be confused: We don't hate Nintendo, we just sometimes need to point out that not every decision they make seems smart at first. But in the end we realize it's always right.

>>379294413
fpbp

>>379294238
Name me one modern fighting game that doesn't have an updated re-release

The Pokemon Company, NOT Nintendo. This is Fake News.

>>379294413
I-its okay when nintendo does it!

>>379294521
It's a quick worthy port that needed to get in more hands. It will. Mainline is going to happen, just because it didn't happen year one this generations entitlement culture scream like pansies. The stream chat for Ultra's viewing was like a Barney and friends boycott Nintendo. Fucking millennials.

>>379294628
exactly, especially when this one will definitely get in more hands and have a community.

>>379294238
You virgins should leave your houses more often

>>379294827
i dont think anyone has ever complained out remasters

>>379294238
It was made by Bandai Namco, not even The Pokémon Company which is the one related with Nintendo

Can't wait for Bayonetta 2 Deluxe, Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition and Starfox Zero: The Good Edition

>>379294827
I never owned a Wii U, and Cemu cant run this. So it's just another reason to get a Switch for me

>>379295856
>Starfox Zero: The Good Edition
Don't raise my hopes you faggot.

>>379295856

>Star Fox Zero

Even if you take away the retarded controls it's still another half assed remake of Star Fox 64.

Let that piece of shit die with the Wii U.

>>379296232
>Star Fox*
Fixed that for you. I know you probably never played the original, but Star Fox 64 was a remake of it.

Why do people think wii u ports are a bad thing. Nobody had the wii u so there are plenty of people who want to play these games who haven't, myself being one of them.

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>wake up
>see 4chan post
>suddenly realize you're retarded
How does it feel?

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>>379294413
I'd also like to point out this remastered version was released twice on the same console,

>>379294238
>>379294413
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>379294827
The post you're responding to proves that Nintendo started this remaster/definitive edition shit before Microsoft and Sony, retard.
>>379296360
Because they are that fucking salty over getting cucked and losing another exclusive.

>>379297070
I was just calling the OP retarded, I have nothing against remasters when done well. Shit, back in the day you wanted to get the full version with expansion packs. Like good ol' Age of Empires Gold Edition.

>>379296360
Not him, I would just be mad to get a game only for it to be re released not even 2 years later for a different console I do not own and for it to get more content than the version I have.
Fuck Hyrule Warriors

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>>379294238

>>379295398
Well, the problem isn't remasters, is when they sell them at full price

>>379294238
Literally who said that

The reason sony got shit for The Last of Us was because it was a 1:1 port released less than a year later for full price.

>>379296036
If it had multiplayer I'd buy it for full price again no regrets

Ports that
>are the same exact game but "updated to HD"
>add 2 characters or a handful of missions
>are on the same system or the immediate next system a ear or two after
are bad and shouldn't be sold at full price. Even Todd Howard had the decency to give you nuSkyrim if you had all the old's content for PC.
Ports that
>have redone graphics
>add a decent amount of gameplay
>are for a company's system that never had the game
>was released about 8-10 years ago
>are not full priced
are fine for remasters. See >>379297545, or collections like >>379294413 which aren't just one single game.

>>379297828
Why is it worth less just because 10 people played it on the wii u? it even comes with 5 new characters or some shit.

>>379295856
Star Fox Zero is entirely built on the motion controls. It literally is unplayable without them. They would have to make a completely different game.

>>379296360
Because we bought these games and now they're getting ported less than 2 years later, with bonus content.
Also, most of them are multiplayer games, so porting them kills the community on the original system.

>>379298137
>a 1:1 port
Literally fucking wrong. They increased the resolution and framerate and included the story DLC. It was basically a GOTY edition but they put it on PS4 since it came out at the end of the PS3's life.

>>379295126
>that needed to get in more hands.
There are more wiiu owners than switch owners, though.

>>379296360
>there are plenty of people who want to play these games who haven't, myself being one of them.
This wasn't a valid argument when the PS4 got PS3 ports, and it isn't a valid argument now.

>>379294238
>Nintendo is not like Sony, they will never release remast
Who in the history of ever has said this?

>>379300576
>Because we bought these games
your numbers are extremely low
>so porting them kills the community on the original system.
it kills an already dead community?

Face it, the Wii U is a flop with a great library. This is one case where porting over all these games is a good idea. They will reach the size of audience they deserve while giving people reason to buy the new console since the vast majority never got to own these games.

>>379301396
it wasn't a valid argument because the ps3 sold pretty damn well, everyone and their mother already played those games. The Wii U sold like shit and had a low userbase, so porting these underplayed games makes sense.

>>379294238
Thank god this game was only at EVO for a single year. Who honestly wants to play this game seriously especially when the best player only played to get fucking furry porn?

>>379294238
>DX
Fucking Reddit

>>379294628
KI for Xbox One
Any of Blazblue games
Any of modern KOF games

>>379301608
>it wasn't a valid argument because the ps3 sold pretty damn well
Half of PS4 owners never had a PS3.
Also, no one owned a Vita so I guess any Vita games that get ported to PS4 are PS4 exclusives.

>>379301723
>Continuum Shift 2
Shut the fuck up

I'm happy actually, didn't get it on Wii U and now I can buy the upraded version.
I don't even like the mainline Pokemon games.

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>>379294238
>Nintendo Remaster
>Game gets a complete overhaul in graphics and or mechanics and extra content.

>Sony Remaster
Pic related. a simple port upscaled to run on bigger and faster TV's

>>379302049
TLOU Remastered is a basically a GOTY edition, its boosted to 60 fps, has better resolution, and includes the story DLC. It just came out at the end of the PS3's life so they put it on PS4.

>>379301798
>Half of PS4 owners never had a PS3.
Then sure port them, I don't know why you think more people playing games is a bad thing.
>Also, no one owned a Vita so I guess any Vita games that get ported to PS4 are PS4 exclusives.
I never said they are exclusives nor did anyone else. But its great that the good games are ported so others can enjoy them too. I can't tell you how happy I was that they started ported vita games to the pc. I wanted a vita but the memory card thing turned me off.

Fuck Nintendo and fuck everyone. Remasters are greedy bullshit

>>379301709
came here to post this

>>379294238
literally the first game on the switch was a remaster for a game that had been released the same day

>>379294238
this isnt even a remaster, its just the same old nintendo "deluxe" scam port + the dlc from before

and yes i hate it when other companies do it too.

>>379301723
>Any of Blazblue games
Are you fucking kidding me?
>Blazblue Calamity Trigger
had vanilla

>Blazblue Continuum Shift
had vanilla, 2 and extend version

>Blazblue Chrono Phantasma
had vanilla and extend

>Blazblue Central Fiction
had vanilla

>>379294631
>F...F..Fake News!

Nintendrumpfs BTFO!

>>379294631
Legend of Bloom HD
Legend of 8.8 HD

>>379294238
Nintenfags are retarded for sure, but I never saw any of them saying Nintendo doesn't releases remasters and/or adaptations to different consoles, they always have and they always will.
SMB Deluxe
Super Mario All Stars
Almost all if not all pokemon games
New Super Mario Bros
SM64 DS
Even recently with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
and the list goes on

Literally no one thinks Nintendo doesn't do that.

>>379294631
I love how Nintendo tards always jump to this.
So youd be a ok with pokemon releasing on other consoles?

>>379303004
Different anon, but yeah, more people getting to play those games is a good thing. Console exclusivity is a meme that needs to die.

>>379303004
Yes, but that would never happen because no one would buy Pokemon that wasn't on a Nintendo console.

>>379303004
>So youd be a ok with other people having fun too?
You might find this hard to believe since you seem to take this console war stuff super seriously, but yes.

>>379294238
Xenoblade X is next, isn't it.

>>379303432
Nope. XCX actually utilizes the dual screens.

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>>379303432
Yes

>>379303432
Hopefully. That and Bayonetta 2 are the only Wii U games I'm really interested in.

>>379303507
Really easy to change

>>379303726
>Really easy to change
you didn't play it, how the fuck would you even know?
Fuck off.

>>379303876
I played it partially on Cemu. Without having two screens.

>>379303876
It's easy to change in literally every Wii U game, and it would probably be improved by changing it.

>>379303961
>I played it partially on Cemu.
lol
>>379304120
>it would probably be improved by changing it.
Wrong.

>>379304179
It would.

>>379303876
You just need to create a menu. It's not hard.

>>379304223
No, it wouldn't.

>>379304265

Explain why.

>>379304265
Yeah it would. It's called an ingame menu. Most games have it and are better for it.

>>379294238
Funny how you can't even call it a remaster since it'll probably either look worse or run worse than on Wii U (depending on whether it's docked or not). You can't make this shit up.

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>>379294413
>moving the goalpost

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>>379304396
>>379304430
Yeah, because the last thing Xenoblade X needs is MORE menu management. Fucking lol.
I actually played the game, you didn't. Fuck off already.

>>379296910
Kingdom hearts 1 and 2 was released three times now

>>379303000
>I agree they're retarded but not in the way you say

It's hilarious when someone agrees AND disagrees with the same thing at the same time. If you think they're idiots why are you nitpicking about what they're idiots for?

>>379294238
Machamp with No Guard and Fissure

>>379304495
>I actually played the game
I really doubt it cause you make some big deal abuot the second screen when you could even play it on Wii U on just the gamepad without any problem.

>>379304451
>claims remaster
>posts remaster
Anon, do you need help?

>>379304635
>PS2
>PS3 collections
What's the 3rd?

>>379304495
I own it, do you want a picture? The touch screen was actually stupidly disappointing. A map was kinda handy to have, but it didn't let you do anything useful on it while you were traveling those long distances. I was actually shocked how many menus didn't use the tablet. Putting the map on just the minus button would be basically just as effective.

>>379298137
It was because Naughty Dog literally said they weren't going to port it to PS4 a few months before it was announced.

>>379299062
it sold 1.3 million copies on wiiu

>>379304495
The ultimate sign that the gamepad was completely worthless to that game is the fact that you could play the whole game on just the gamepad. Any game with this feature could be ported with no problems.

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>>379304707
>I really doubt it
lol k
>you could even play it on Wii U on just the gamepad without any problem.
You had to switch back to dual screen mode to place probes.
>>379304843
>it didn't let you do anything useful on it while you were traveling those long distances.
probes? Inspecting individual hexagons?

>>379304775
ps4 collection

>>379294238
My gf (female since march) loves pokemon but doesn't have a wii u, so this is great news

>>379305146
Oh my god, you got me, you could zoom the map in and out! Fuck, how would they ever find another way to zoom in and out the map.

It's not a remaster though it literally has new content.

99% of fighting games do this

>>379305146
>You had to switch back to dual screen mode to place probes.
No you hadn't. You could literally never use your tv and play the game completely on your gamepad.

i can think of at least 10 times Nintendo has done this off teh top of my head, OP is confirmed retahted

>>379305307
Scrolling through the individual hexagons to place probes would be a huge pain in the ass. Its only convenient because of the touch screen.

They can move the entire wii u library for whatever i care, its the fucking wii u

>>379304359

>>379294238

I like my Switch, and am enjoying the games on it so far, but I must admit that even I'm getting a little nervous about the future. I just hope every new release isn't going to be a port. I'd like a new Smash, new Metroid, new F-Zero, etc. not just HD editions with two extra characters that cost $60.

>>379305113
Why did you include the characters section, manga/tv shows, makers, companies, and everything that isn't the game in the nintendo side?

>>379296360
>Why do people think wii u ports are a bad thing.
I honestly hope we get more. There we're quite a few games that were great on the WiiU that no one played.

>>379305629
You already played them. Why do you care if other people get to play them or not?

>>379305438
Not really? You could just have analog controls on the map. You never really need to be that precise anyways. Hell, you could have the touchscreen itself do it when undocked. The situations you would NEED the gamepad is if it does something useful while you're playing the game of helps cut down on menus significantly. Given every menu sept the map is not on the gamepad and the map is something you're going to stop moving to focus on when it comes to probing, it'd be a mild inconvenience at most to remove it's functionality.

>>379305714
I want people to be happy. Good video games are hard to come by now.

>>379305914
>You could just have analog controls on the map.
That isn't a solution. You would have to individually scroll to all of the tiny little hexagons.
>>379305914
>ell, you could have the touchscreen itself do it when undocked.
Most people would rather play docked

>>379306005

I'd be all in favor of that if they added a significant amount of content. But if they just add a character or two and charge $60, then I honestly hope they don't.

A new version of Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze with like, 3 new worlds or something would be pretty rad. But if they just add Kiddy Kong and maybe 4 new levels, fuck that shit.

>>379305714
More sales for good games means more good games in the future

>>379306108
You're making it sound way more inconvenient than it would be. Moving a cursor with your analog stick is not a pain when under no particular stress.

>>379306292
Just leave him with his delusions that the Wii U gamepad was a brilliant idea and a boon to games like XCX. He seems to be really attached to it.

>>379306143

Still, it worries me that they might go the Capcom route.

>Buy Darkstalkers again or you're never seeing another game in the franchise!

>>379303538

Sauce?

>>379306292
>Moving a cursor with your analog stick is not a pain
It is when its a huge map and you have to move to the middle every time.

>>379303538

That proves nothing. May as well have a blurry picture with Bloodborne 2 on it for Switch too while you're at it.

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>>379306464
Jee, how did we EVER use a map in prior games in similar ways before the godly invention of the secondary tablet screen controller. It is just beyond comprehension that they could ever port this to not touch screens.

>>379294413
hey you forgot the Wii version, which was the same thing.

>>379306690
What games require as much map management as XCX?

Nintendo is already releasing Xenoblade 2 this year. They don't really need Xenoblade X to fill in any gaps. I imagine if we were to get a port of Xenoblade X it would be later on, or as part of some Xenoblade collection that includes Xenoblade Chronicles and maybe even Xenoblade 2.

>>379306901
Literally any open world game. They have 1 probe feature that is mild interaction with the map. Almost every open world game has a similar interaction with the map and most of them are done just fine on controllers. Selecting an area on a map is not an impossible feat outside of touch screens.

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>>379294631
Naughty Dog, NOT Sony. This is Fake News.

>>379305113
Why are the nintendo sections bloated with things like "Creators" and "Companies" and "Characters" and things that are decidedly not lists of games?

give me bayo you dumb ninteniggers

>>379302146
Trying way to hard there.

>>379307583
Not an argument

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>>379294238
>DX

>>379294238
It's funny because 2 of the top 10 WiiU games are remasters of Zelda games :^)

>>379297413
>>379300576

This is nothing new. Even before this remaster shit started there were plenty of GOTY editions of games released with all DLC a year after the vanilla games came out.


Nobody bought a WiiU and these ports sell. Look no further than MK8 Deluxe. It would honestly be batshit retarded to leave money on the table like that. If you don't like it just don't buy it.

>>379308743

This. Skipping Nintendo next generation. Vote with your wallet.

>>379308743
GOTY editions of multiplayer games could still be played online with players of the original version, so they didn't split the playerbase.
They killed the MK8 community on Wii U when they ported it. Same thing will happen with Smash and Pokken.
So no, this actually isn't the same as GOTY editions, its far more cancerous.

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>yfw the best Animal Crossing game was literally a remaster of an N64 game

>>379308957
> They killed the MK8 community on Wii U when they ported it. Same thing will happen with Smash and Pokken.


You can't kill something that's already dead anon.

I hope we get nothing but Wii U ports for the whole generation. I didn't buy the Wii U the first time to play these games, but surely I will buy a Switch to play them. It's different this time

>>379309159
I played all of those games around christmas and it never took me more than a minute to find a match in any of them

Fuck you guys. I'm going to have a spend an entire generation with nothing to play just because you're a bunch of faggots who want to leech off the previous generation. I hope you all get killed by drunk drivers.

>>379309343

I honestly don't know why they didn't just buy a Wii U if they wanted to play nothing but Wii U games. It boggles the mind. A few ports I don't mind, but wanting an entire generation to be nothing but ports and remasters of games you claimed to never be interested in it before is retarded.

Marketing is a powerful thing.

>>379309221
And? It takes maybe 10k players to have a decent online experience. I'm not surprised a game that sold over 5 million copies still had people playing. I'm sure the same amount of people are still playing now so I doubt it's "dead."


Pokken was and still is fucking dead though. And to a lesser extent Smash. But Smash it's mostly because the online is shit and not worth playing.

>>379295856
I'm interested in Hyrule Warriors, but there's no way I'm going to buy the Wii U or 3DS versions at this point, so I'd love a Switch version to come out.

>>379309626
Because the Wii U was a bad console in pretty much every way.
Also Wii U ports are really low-effort and don't take many resources. The main teams will still be working on completely new games.

>>379294548
Kill yourself

>>379309626
>Why didn't consumers buy a clunky a shit console that was way overpriced and poorly marketed! That was so badly engineered you couldn't even get Xbox 360 ports to run decently on it.

>>379309843
>Because the Wii U was a bad console in pretty much every way.
It played games, what the fuck more do you want?
>>379309843
>The main teams will still be working on completely new games.
prove it

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>>379309905
>prove it

You're a fucking idiot

>>379309878
>That was so badly engineered you couldn't even get Xbox 360 ports to run decently on it.
That was only the fault of lazy third party developers. Bayonetta 1 and Need for Speed Most Wanted were actually done competently and they were better than the 360 versions.
You're other point is basically saying "I care more about marketing than games" and if thats the case you should just kill yourself and stop ruining gaming with your pleb sensibilities.

>>379309905
>It played games
Barely

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>>379294238
I don't like the practice either but re-releasing games is an industry standard nowadays. Uncharted collections, Master Chief Collection, Super Mario All Stars, Skyrim enhanced edition etc

it works and companies aren't going to leave easy money on the table.

singling one company out for it is just shitposting

>>379310108
What the fuck does this even mean?

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>>379309905
>prove it

>>379310096
Where did I say I care more about marketing? I bought a WiiU but even I can admit that marketing is an important factor in getting people to buy shit. Nintendo could (and did) release hit after hit but it's all pointless because they made the console look like ass. That's not the consumers fault, that's all on Nintendo.


Man, I can't believe people are literally defending the WiiU's atrocious marketing and blaming it on "dumb plebs."

I've been going here for more than a decade at this point and these types of threads have been going on forever.

But for people who have also been going to this site for a long time does it seem like most of the console war threads now seem fake?

There isn't a single one anymore that seems like the one who started it at the very least isn't making it for the reactions or shitposting cred.

Is it me or is it weird that every console war thread seems incredibly fake? I used to come to these to watch people actually get mad but now it seems like most people just fake being mad because being mad on /v/ is a meme.

>>379309905
The ARMS team is the MK8 team and they literally said they were able to make ARMS as quickly as they did because Nintendo opted to port MK8 onto Switch and not have them work on the next MK which would still be another year or two off.

>>379310736
I'm sure you're right. Most people just shitpost to start a thread and I doubt they even stick around. Then people keep repeating the same talking points over and over again.

>>379294238
-er games that 80M people already played

>>379310736
>But for people who have also been going to this site for a long time does it seem like most of the console war threads now seem fake?
Not sure if it's fake, but it's way worse and more annoying than it's even been though. The trolling and baiting is so low-effort, with the same copy-pasted Wojaks and all-caps shitposts, that you really have to wonder what the fuck the mods are up to

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>>379310736
this pic summarizes /v/ pretty well

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>>379295856
Same. I wasn't retarded enough to get a Wii U.
>mfw can play Bayo2 while on the crapper

>>379304451
What goalposts?

>>379311072

The trolling and baiting is what makes it seem fake. I mean I was naive at the time so maybe it was even fake back then but it seemed way more legit in 07-08.

But during that time the big scare was /v/ was slowly turning into /b/ with video games, which is kinda where we are today. Probably explains a lot actually.

>>379294413
>this game is a remaster of 4 games
>it got a remaster of the remaster with an additional game
>it got a remaster of the remaster of the remaster on the wii in 2010
Fucking OP is retarded once again.

>>379303432
I only hope for it if they actually give it some love and it isn't just a 1:1 port. At the very least they should upgrade the enemy index by having it fill in as you fight the enemy, not after you beat it. That way you're not stuck banging your head against the Super Boss until you finally figure out its weakness.

>>379311351
Bayonetta 2 isn't on Switch.

>>379312024
yet

>>379312173
And it never will be.

>>379312173
Yeah and MH5 will be on PS4 right?

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>>379312173
>Implying Bayonetta 2 will be on anything other than the Wii U
>Implying SMT5 will be on the PS4
>Implying Monster Hunter will go back to Playstation
>Implying

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>>379312447
>implying Bayonetta and Vanquish will ever be on PC
Oh wait, that happened so it doesn't count anymore.

>>379312789
Nintendo funded Bayonetta II so it would be on the Wii U.

>>379312450
You don't get to claim "muh fallacy" after hyping up a game that isn't even announced.

>>379294238
There's a difference between giving a decent game a seccond chance to find its audience and double dip on an already massive hit taking advantage of it's momentum and popularity.
Both are fine, though.

>>379313032
Yes I do. I never hyped up anything, I was just responding to this post >>379295856

>>379294238
>Buy Pokken
>It's enjoyable enough for a few weeks, but extremely barebones. Feels rushed and experimental
>Shelve it with no intention to ever play it again

This just pisses me off. I feel like I bought a full price beta.

>>379295856
>Bayonetta 2 DX
>W101 DX
>HW DX
>Fatal Frame V DX
>DKC:TF DX
>Smash 4 DX
I would buy way too many of these.

>>379313608
Was Pokken full price?
I don't even remember.

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>>379294238
>>379294413
Let's go further.

>>379313608
Should have sold it before the price crashed.

Id say it is okay when everyone does it.

However there is a difference between a remaster and a port.

>>379309054
and fully priced too

>>379313608
Of course it's barebones, it's a competitive fighting game.

You don't buy those for single player content, you buy them to go to locals and git gud or play online

>>379294238
>Shit nobody said

>>379294238
>>379294827
So basically it's only okay when Sony does it?

>>379295398
Last of Us

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>>379294238
...said nobody ever. I'd tell you to quit trying to start shit, but apparently, I'm about 180 responses too late for that. Good work, OP.

>>379319464

Ever play Tekken Tag 2 on the Wii U? It was STUFFED with content. Pokken was anemic.

>Esports fighting game fans

Literally killed the genre.

>>379314610

Yep.

>>379315412

The money didn't really bother me; I just felt like the developer was trying to scam us. Now, with this superior Switch port, I know they were.

It was just a cash grab.

>all the characters already unlocked
>single player probably still the same boring, repetitive mess

Well, this is about as useless as a fart in a spacesuit.

>>379321779
see
>>379319464

>>379294238
Wii U Pokken was sub 720p and graphically downgraded compared to the arcade version

>>379294521
This. The Sony Pony crowd here just posts for the lulz, but they love Nintendo and support them fully.

>>379321930

Yeah, well fuck the competitive fighting game community then.

>The Wii U was a beta console
>There are people on /v/ who spent $1000 to play the same Wii U games on a Switch.

Hope I didn't make a mistake buying a Switch. I don't want to be fucked like Wii U owners.

>>379295398
You know, I always see shit being flung whenever a remaster of a game is announced.

Stop lying.

>>379294238

I can already see the E3 lineup.

Super Smash 4 DX
Super Mario 3D World DX
NES Remix 1&2 DX

Basically if it's a first party Nintendo title expect a DX version of it on the Switch to pad out an already lackluster library until it actually gets new games sometime between now and Shiggy dying before the year is out.

>>379314920
Those can easily be classified as ports.

All-stars was a real (and really good) remaster of several games.

>>379324041

If Nintendo has a brain we'd get SNES Remix.

So obviously it won't happen.