CHOOSE YOU'RE CHARACTER
i wanna muzzlefukc braixen
>>379291631
>YOU'RE
I don't play baby fighting game.
Hawlucha?
Hitmonlee?
Hitmonchan?
>Most fun gameplay
>One of the only actually interesting choices in a roster of nothing but fucking bipeds in a monster fighting game
>Basically a gigantic badge that says "Not a rosterfag" on it
The objectively best choice.
Also anyone wondering how this shitty port is supposed to sell in Japan? They have the arcades with all but Decidu-I am not going to bother spelling his name, and chances are strong as fuck he's not going to remain Switch exclusive. It's 60 more dollars for pretty much fucking nothing.
Also feeling really burned that they intentionally withheld making DLC for the WiiU version in order to make the Switch version more attractive down the line.
Where is the "nuke Game Freak's HQ" option?
>>379291631
Scizor, he was my fucking man in SS.
Where's Hitmonchan?
>>379291631
Greninja!
>>379291631
>no polywhirl/wrath
machamp it is
>>379291631
i wanna be fucked by that herm blaziken
Yo pokefags. Does Decidudumbname getting into Pokken mean that TPC is using the owl as it's current forced mascot? Did ash get it in the cartoon and shit?
I ask because I'm hoping they put that bird into Smash rather then another boring ass generic human fighter like Fagninja or Furcario
>>379292674
Greninja was great before Sakurai decided to massacre him for no reason in balance patches. Fuck off rosterfag.
>>379292790
>Greninja was great
He's a man wearing a frog suit. That's fucking boring.
>>379291631
19 characters.
Most of em shit
2 slot wasting clone skins
I like it better when it was called Type Wild, and it had lappuny.
>>379292790
>shiek in cosplay
>great
yawn
>>379291631
Garchomp (male)
But seriously, how come I can't play as a female Garchomp? I always use female Garchomp!
>YOU'RE
>>379292982
>I have never played smash: the post
>>379292674
Ash has Rowlet and and Litten
>>379292674
>Did ash get it in the cartoon and shit?
He has the first form and its the cute comic relief character.
doesn't dark mewtwo have a frieza death ball that destroys the planet or something
>>379292889
His moveset was fun before Sakurai gutted him. Fun to play is literally the only thing that matters.
>BUT HOW CAN SAKURAI ADD TWO NINJAS MUH ROSTER MUH BALANCED REPRESENTATION MUH PATTERNS MUH WATER STARTER MUH MUH MUH
Whatever your autistic hangup with Greninja is fueled by it's not valid in the slightest. He was a fine addition to the roster.
>>379292889
How is he any more humanoid than something like Charizard or Sceptile?
It's a fucking fighting game, characters need something akin to limbs. Even suicune has those ribbons and chandelure has arms.
Ma-fucking-champ.
>>379291913
Hopefully in the future, along with Deoxys and Eevee. Also Greninja.
>>379293215
>I-It's okay if it's a bland generic punchy kicky human! W-Who wants unique fighters? That's dumb!
>>379293303
>MUH WATER STARTER
Meant to put grass starter here.
>>379293303
being ugly advertisement aimed at 13 year olds who think ninjas are the coolest is definitely valid
>>379291859
You don't play any games at all, shitposter-kun
>>379293303
>His moveset was fun
He's a generic punch/kick human fighter. That's fucking shit compared to literally any of the other Pokemon except lucario
>>379293430
Greninja was decided on and in development long before he was popular though.
Roy was literally IS forcing Sakurai to add him to get Marth. Yet he's a beloved meme in the Smash community.
No fucking port for the Switch
>>379293548
>he doesn't know
>no Regirock
>no flying types
>no Hitmonlee
>luchadore pikachu is its own character
aw man
>>379293305
>How is he any more humanoid than something like Charizard
Well Greninja is literally a human in a costume. Charizard is actually shaped like a dragon
>or Sceptile?
Literally who? Not in smash.
>Even suicune has those ribbons and chandelure has arms.
Exactly. Generic humanoids aren't necessary
OUT OF ALL THE COOL GEN 7 MONS WE COULD'VE GOTTEN WE GET THE FUCKING OWL
No snorlax, no dragonite, no poliwrath
>>379293664
>Cool Gen 7 mons
Besides Swolesquito, there are no good gen 7 designs.
>>379293406
>Further proving my point that you're are a retard that has no idea what they're talking about
nice
MEWTWO
>>379293541
>Greninja was decided on and in development long before he was popular though.
Greninja was decided to be the popular one long before he was announced though
>>379293664
t. Incineroarfag
>>379291631
Braixen for days.
>pyromancer witch
>magical girl
>cute as fuck
>actually has a personality
>annoying voice to taunt your enemies
>dem hips
>>379293664
Can't be helped, there's already too many goddamn firetypes in the game.
>>379293758
>no argument
Exactly.
>>379291631
i mained gengar on wiiu
>>379293629
>Well Greninja is literally a human in a costume
Stop with this shitty meme. From a physiological standpoint, Greninja is the most frog-like frog pokemon we've gotten.
>>379292982
I bet you think the fire emblem characters are actually different from each other sans robin
>>379293773
Right. Gamefreak totally has the power to do that. Sure thing.
Oh, wait.Pic related: They fucking dont.
>>379291631
>you're
>not yore
>>379293970
Gamefreak knows how to shill a character. You're forgetting that pokemon fans are literally just Gamefreak's sheep.
>>379293629
>it has four limbs so it's literally a human
You could have just said you're blind and retarded instead of wasting my time.
>>379293893
>>379293954
>Greninja is the most frog-like frog pokemon we've gotten.
Your picture literally says otherwise
>>379291631
Weavile???
ok.
>>379294091
>very clearly human shaped, to the point where it's wearing a fucking scarf
Where's the confusion? It's just a bland human fighter
>>379293842
>being a fur fag
Just neck yourself
>>379291631
>Lucha Pikachu
>OC Donut Steel Mewtwo
I'm still mad
At least Brogunk is in
>>379294153
Your misuse of literally just shows how literally retarded you are.
Show me a frog Pokemon with a more frog-like anatomy.
>>379294131
>muh brick wall tactics
lol. you lost.
>>379294069
>Gamefreak knows how to shill a character.
>Responding to a post with evidence that Gamefreak has exactly no idea how to shill a character
Gamefreak stumbles into everything they do. Lucario was a fluke, they caught on and put him in the spotlight. They tried to make Lucario 2, it fucking failed miserably. Greninja starts catching on, so they do the smart thing and bring him to the forefront. It's not the other way around. Gamefreak would never intentionally design one of the 3 starters to be more popular.
Gamefreak aren't smart enough at all for the conspiracy theory bullshit you're pinning on them.
Why has Game Freak forsaken us
>>379294401
>They tried to make Lucario 2, it fucking failed miserably.
And they learned from their mistakes and made Lucario 3 a starter
>Gamefreak would never intentionally design one of the 3 starters to be more popular.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>379293750
I can't think of any Gen 7 designs that aren't good except maybe Bruxish and even that can be defended since the whole point is to be ugly.
Just off the top of my head, some great Gen 7 designs (imo):
Mimikyu
Toxipex
Tsareena
Kommo-o
Drampa
Pyukumuku
Golisopod
Bewear
Buzzswole
Xurkitree
Celesteela
Kartana
that's like half the dex if you look at final stages. You're being pretty harsh if you can't find more than one Gen 7 design you like given that they cover so many bases.
>>379294274
Then all frogs are human shaped by your logic you stupid faggot.
Frog with some human features =/= literally a human. You might as well argue Pikachu is literally a child in a fursuit.
>>379291631
i havent played pokeman since pokeman red. isn't pikachu severely gimp compared to the others, or did they power him up because he's the mascot of the game?
>>379294356
What's wrong with being a furfag in 2k17? Are you bandwagoning on grandfathered SA memes or are you one of those retards who thinks furry is mutually inclusive with bestiality?
>>379294503
>Gen 7 has good designs
>Like a fourth of the dex are memy revisits of old pokemon
>>379294386
>>379294516
Guys whoa this character that punches, kicks, walks upright, and is shaped exactly like a human isn't human looking guise!!!!!
>>379294483
Wow look at all that evidence you have there, faggot.
>>379294391
What is there to lose you fucking idiot
I want to play as graveler
>>379294386
>Show me a frog Pokemon with a more frog-like anatomy
>>379294687
>Posting anime shit
As I thought, no argument.
>>379294687
What did you want him to do?
>>379291631
Chandelure but allegedly it acts like an underaged schoolgirl so I'll just stick with kickin chicken
I hate this new genre of "strategic" 3d fighting games. Gundam vs, all the Shonen jump games, pokken. It fucking sucks. I just wanna do flashy combos and shit. Not fucking manage meters and positioning and fucking use assists and all that garbage. Too bad sf5 sucked ass and mvc: infinite is gonna be garbage, and the new tekken is tekken so it's instantly garbage.
>>379294516
>>379294386
>b-b-but vertebrates all look human REEEEE!
Are you really this retarded?
>>379294608
I get that you're not responding to my list, but the only one I listed that was a revisit of an old design was Mimikyu.
There's 18 Alolan forms and 81 completely new Pokemon. I refuse to believe that you seriously think 1/81 of those designs is good.
>>379294743
Holy fucking shit. This autist it too funny.
>>379294810
>>379294834
>THAT DOESN'T COUNT DELETE THIS
Exactly
>>379294743
>stubby limbs
>fingers not flat
>no webbing
Like I said, Greninja is more frog.
>>379294915
I seriously do. And Swolesquito is mostly because of how goofy looking he is.
Gen 7 is the trash that finally freed me of Pokemon. It's been dead since gen 4 and I've been playing a game of "weekend at bernies" with the series for far too long.
>>379295017
You're using anime Greninja to argue about video game Greninja. Your argument is invalid.
>>379294894
>Gundam vs,
Nigga what? That game has flashy combos out the ass
>>379295087
Greninja doesn't look like this though. Greninja is just a humanmon
>>379293773
>Greninja was decided to be the popular one long before he was announced though
Not by Gamefreak, tho. Sakurai repeatedly stated that TPC had no idea who to add to Smash, so they left it up to the guys developing Smash to decide which Gen VI pokemon they liked the best.
>>379294069
Greninja was insanely popular from the start. I dare you to find a pre-Smash poll (Or even worse, a Post-Smash one) were he's not ranked as the best of his gen.
http://www.dorkly.com/post/57168/toplist-results-the-15-greatest-generation-vi-pokemon
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/26/the-best-worst-xy-pokemon-revealed
These came out a bit over a month after Greninja was revealed in X/Y. Hell, Greninja went out to score 17th on Dorkly's Best Pokemon of all Time poll some weeks later.
There's no doubts Gamefreak shilled it, but they shilled it AFTER it proved to be insanely popular. It's called appealing to a large demographic.
>>379294901
According to you they do. You got observable photo proof that Greninja has the most frog-like physiology of any Pokemon and you're still going "REE LITERALLY HUMAN."
I'm afraid you're the retard.
>>379295197
>You're using official Greninja to argue about official Greninja. Your argument is invalid.
???
>>379295210
Is it good? I just watched game play and it looked like the fucking shonen jump games. My bad for assuming.
>>379295239
Greninja has frog anatomy, but human posture.
>>379294391
Stop embarrassing yourself man jesus. You are making all of us sonybros look really bad
>>379295313
>You got observable photo proof that Greninja has the most frog-like physiology
Greninja looks nothing like a frog though
>b-but looking like a vertabre means he looks like a frog!!!
That's not how it works.
>>379294894
>I just wanna do flashy combos and shit. Not fucking manage meters and positioning and fucking use assists and all that garbage.
Then play Pokken. It doesn't have meters, positioning isn't that important, and assists aren't for combos.
>>379295251
This is correct. You can obviously tell when they intended and when they didn't intend to push something.
For example, this piece of shit was clearly meant to be the next Lucario, but never got anywhere near the levels of popularity it had.
I dont even know what's is going on in this thread.
Something about frogs?.
>>379291631
>YOU'RE
sad
>>379291631
>no Pinsir
Fuck Scizor guess Empoleon since it's the only pokemon on this list I like.
>>379291631
>no hitmonchan
>>379295413
>Greninja has frog anatomy
He has human posture, a lean human torso, shoulders, a neck, forward facing eyes, and forward facing knees. That's human anatomy
>>379295251
>Sakurai repeatedly stated that TPC had no idea who to add to Smash, so they left it up to the guys developing Smash to decide which Gen VI pokemon they liked the best.
That's not what he said. Sakurai was given a unspecificied number of Pokemon to pick from, and somehow Greninja was the one chosen. We don't know how strongly TPC was involved.
Greninja was always supposed to be the forced one. Hell people forgot he existed ever since GF stopped shilling him. That's how artificial his "fame" was.
>>379295354
It's pretty good, and I'm not sure how anyone can compare it to the trash that is J-stars, I more commonly hear people compare it to xenoverse, and even then XV is still way slower.
>>379295457
>ad hominem
You've lost again lol
>>379295610
>wanting hitmonshitters
>>379294503
Tsarenna with Hwoarang's moveset or grappler Bewear would have been fun. The real crime is that Incinaroar doesn't make it in.
>>379296190
>wanting iconic fighting pokemon in a pokemon fighting game
>>379295239
Of course it doesn't simply look like "My Mom's Frog", but it has all the defining features and body proportion of them compared to the other blob-like, cartoony exageration that we've gotten in the pastwhich i still love, by the way.
Padded, webbed fingers; actual angular projected Frog-like mouth instead of typpical anime mouth overlay, inverted trapezoid body shape with defined neck and comparatively smaller head... It's clearly the most frog looking pokemon yet. If you disagree, you don't know shit about frogs.
>>379296265
We already got Blaziken and Lucario
>>379292153
The hitmons would be a shit choice, and the people who say it should be all fighting types are even dumber.
The average fighting type pokemon is only as interesting as the average fighting game character, it defeats the entire point to have a pokemon fighting game with just them. Machamp and Blaziken already are punching and kicking themed pokemon in Pokken, except Machamp also has grapples and blaziken is also fire and enchancement themed.
The only interesting things Hitmonchan and Top would offer is the boxing theme and stretchy limbs. If you want that, then you are better off with Breloom, who has both but also has grass moves
>>379295610
Machamp is definitely a better choice then Hitmonchan. Brings all the standard fisty-action Hitmonchan would but amps it up with extra-muscle shenanigans to keep up with how ridiculous the rest of the cast is.
>>379291631
>Was a Briaxenfag and a Pikalibrefag on the WiiU
>Had a Chandelure pocket/for fun
>Announced more pokemon for the roster
>My nigga Empoleon was one of them
>mfw they never brought the new characters over until now and I've lost all interest at this point
If only they did it earlier. I'm in no rush to pick up a Switch so I guess I'll hold off until much later.
How do the new pokemon play anyways?
>>379296276
>but it has all the defining features and body proportion of them
see >>379295714
>>379291631
>No Typhlosion
>No Ampharos
>Exactly two (2) characters from gen 2
Come on man
>>379296276
Except it's literally a human wearing a frog suit. It doesn't even have frog legs
Link me some butthurt showdowns chats guys.
>>379296341
Lucario is a forced meme
>>379291631
Rip the random buttom
Also, Empoleon and/or Decidueye
>>379296265
The two most iconic fighting mons are already in the game, Hitmonshitter.
>>379291631
There are 802 different pokemon species and yet they put two pikachus and two mewtwos is the roster
>>379296276
>inverted trapezoid body shape with defined neck and comparatively smaller head
Thats what humans have, not frogs.
>>379296580
>If I quote something completely wrong, It'll make me seem right!
>>379296873
Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan are not in the game
>>379296905
The hell? Everything said was true
>>379297004
>>379296928
Because they aren't.
MACHAMP and Lucario are.
And there's nothing that Chan can do that Machamp can't do better, except looking shittier.
>>379296995
>Forced to show frog in the most unnatural and stretched out position to make your shitposting work
>the frog still looks nothing like Greninja
lol
>>379296883
Pika-Libre is actually a lot of fun. Granted they could've given the moveset to another pokemon like Hawlucha and tweaked it to fit the pokemon, but she plays way differently to regular Pikachu so I'm kinda ok with it.
Shadow Mewtwo can go fuck right off though.
>>379297141
>Lucario
No one gives a shit about Lucario. Fuck off with that shit.
>>379297104
Not an argument
>>379297169
still looks more than a real frog than any other frog mon
>>379296580
>>379296679
Are you literally autistic? Put all 3D models of the frog Pokemon we have side-to-side and pose them alongside a realistic render of a frog.
I GUARANTEE you that Greninja will be the one that resembles it the most.
>>379296904
>Wide Chest and Belly that narrows down to a near triagular shape where the Legs start are the same as an average human whose torso is consistently straight
Do you not have eyes?
>>379297104
>If I post a shitpost image instead of an actual counterpoint I'll win the argument!
???
>>379297265
>she
>>379297269
>Not an argument
Not an argument
>>379297267
>No one gives a shit about Lucario
You may not like it. In fact, the objective correct opinion is to not like it. But Lucario is fucking MASSIVELY popular. Even now.
GARDEVOIR BITCHES
SHES CUTE AND STRONG
this game is back from the mother fucking grave
Decidueye obviously
>>379297267
No, nobody actually gives a shit about the Hitmons.
Even you, you don't give a shit so much that you only named two out of three.
>>379297384
Pika-Libre has a heart shaped tail. It's a female.
>>379297384
Are you retarded?
>>379297457
Hitmontop came later than the two that actually matter, faggot.
>>379291631
>Decidueye
>Not Tapu Koko
trash.
>>379297412
>GARDEVOIR BITCHES SHES OVERDONE WAIFUBAIT AND LITERALLY THE WEAKEST POKKEN CHARACTER
ftfy
>>379291631
Where the fuck is Breloom?
>>379297341
>stiff backed bipedal human wearing an arwing hat
>normal forward facing human-like face
>normal forward facing human legs
>broad human shoulders and long human arms
>even his crouch is identical to a person's since he doesn't actually have frog legs
>defined chest and slender torso
>wears fucking clothes
Yeah. Pretty much a human
>>379294091
He uses his forelimbs as hands. That's a humanoid feature. Charizard has literally zero humanoid features other than being a manlet
>>379297341
Keep giving them (You), anon, I'm sure they will stop that way.
>>379297664
Overdone in what
>>379291631
Croagunk is my fucking nigga, so that's my favorite. I liked Decidueye a lot, so him and Gengar are tied for second. Machamp third because Machamp is god-tier.
>>379297961
>He uses his forelimbs as hands
Charizard does this too.
>>379298023
Gardevoir is entry level waifubait
How did they not add Greninja to this game? The game ran during the peak of his popularity too. They literally shot themselves in the foot.
>>379291631
I pick Lucario because he's honest as fuck.
FUCK HITMONSHIT
>>379291631
i choose not to play a bad game
>>379298134
They're done forcing him. Why would he be added?
Also we don't need more humanoid fighters
>>379298104
How
I'm still mad
>>379298104
>Charizard does this too.
Not with those fucking nubs he doesn't
>>379298046
>croagunk with croagunk assistmon
>>379297384
Libre is actually canonically female, all female pikachu's have heart shaped tails like that
>>379295714
>human posture
Because it's combined with a human trope: The Ninja. Posture is irrelevant in the face of physiology because otherwise >>379296995
would somehow mean they became human for a moment.
>a lean human torso
see >>379297341
>A Neck
You clearly haven't see Greninja if you haven't noticed his head is conjoined to his body
>forward facing eyes
They're on the sides of his head, where they should be
>Knees
Just look at the thing. It's also frog like.
>>379298482
Now we just need a swamp stage filled with Croagunks in the background or something
>>379298589
>Because it's combined with a human trope: The Ninja.
Exactly. It's a human wearing a frog hat. That's fucking boring
>>379291631
My main was the Champ in the Wii U version and I plan on keeping it that way.with Grunk was a secondary
>>379298640
>croagunk with croagunk assistmon with croagunk player avatar and croagunk replacing the announcer girl
>>379298589
>I-It's irrelevant if it walks, fights, and stands like a human!
lol
>>379298307
>>379298410
Both the anime and Smash show him being able to grab things with those stubs. It's called cartoon bullshit.
>>379298723
Nigger, aside from Greninja's posture, how does his anatomy resemble a human in any fucking way?
>>379296224
>no heel wrestler who fights dirty and uses submission holds where he sets you on fire as combo enders
I choose to blame Pikachu Libre for this
>>379295610
I would love to have a boxing pokemon with feints, counters,dashes, and quick jabs. I may be missing someone in the rooster that fits this.
>>379298002
Yeah, i realized too late that i was just being baited and i took it hook, line and sinker. It's just sad to think that there's people in the world that could be so retarded, but i guess there's nothing you can do about it.
>no love for weavile
i get it, it's cool, you're busy debating what a frog is and screaming about why your pokemon with a 1/802 chance (if that) of getting in didn't get in
I'm going to buy two copies and recommend it to all my friends just to spite you insuffrable twats
>>379299219
>>379294247
>>379299219
I play rushdown mostly, but I couldn't get into Weavile for whatever reason.
>>379291631
I never played this game because I didn't fall for the wii u meme, can someone tell me where it fits into this list skill wise so I know if I want to play it.
High skill
>GG, Tekken 7
Medium skill
>Mortal Kombat X, Injustice 2
>Low skill
SFV, ARMS
>>379299219
I mained Weavileand Mewtwoin the Wii U version, but I'm probably switching to Croagunk because I fucking love frog characters in games.
>>379299052
It's bait. Stop giving him (you)'s.
>>379299052
>how does his anatomy resemble a human in any fucking way?
he has lanky human arms, forward facing single jointed human legs, a slim human torso, a defined chest, shoulders, a neck, and a stiff spine.
>>379299454
Between medium and low. There's enough depth with assists and alternate forms to at least move it above low
>>379299507
>facts are bait
Why are you so mad?
>>379299454
Low
>>379291631
no feraligatr no buy
>>379299454
>SFV
>Low
fuck out of here I bet you're a GG autist or capeshit lover
>>379291631
we arr rook same
>Braixen
>Croagunk
What's the point if you're not going all the way?
>>379292013
The fuck are you on? When I played pokken on the Wii U I saw that visually appalling design disaster damn near every match and they all played the exact same, what a colossal waste of a character slot
>>379291631
>still main septile
>secondary scizor or decidueye
>dragonite and victini support set
as much as i love pokken, and as much as i want a switch, for some reason, this is making me a bit reclusive about the system. I have no idea why either
i wanna muzzlefukc lucario, suicune, and braixen
>Scizor on Switch version means I finally have a third mon I want to play as
Shame about no Feraligatr, but I'll take what I can get.
>>379299454
I'd say between medium and low. It's certainly a lot more skill based then shit like arms since it's designed as a competitive fighter.
>>379292674
decidueye and incineroar are the two most likely forced mascots for gen 7, maybe lycanroc too
>>379299693
>>379299713
It seems like a lot of projectile spamming and defense play while trying to guess correctly to land a hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKJG_UCyXiA
>>379291631
>Pokémon FIGHTING game
>No Hawlucha and no Incineroar as the face and heel
As long as neither are in, I'll have no interest in the game.
>>379293664
we needed based passimian
>>379299454
Why is ARMS even there when the full game isn't even out yet? Are FGC fags this retarded?
There's like a thousand pokemon
of course your ONE MUST HAVE favorite didn't get in, even popular or fitting choices have the odds stacked against them, because they're competing with every other popular and fitting choice
are you people retarded
>>379291631
>Mained Suicune when it first released
>Never lost to a single Braixen because they all did the same easy to counter projectile combo
Kill yourself braixen fags.
>>379296432
>wanting literally my mom's human in the game
You might as well as for Brock as a playable fighter.
>>379300332
Monkey got blown the fuck out.
>>379300201
Depending on the matchup, it can turn into that against characters that are dedicated zoners
Trying to guess correctly to land a hit is literally all fighting games, though
>>379300361
but she did get in
>>379291631
Honestly I'm only buying this if they have updates, DLC, better match making and better single player I already have the game on Wii U and this barely qualifies as an improved version as is.
>>379300347
>playtest had every competitive mode that will be in full release even had every character besides Kid Cobra
Unless Nintendo decides to add some mechanics before launch its not skillful enough to be considered higher than any of the other fighting games out.
>>379292674
None of Ash's Alolan pokémon have evolved yet, but he does have a Rowlet. Leaked concept art showed his Litten fully evolves and they've hinted at his Rockruff going midnight form, but I don't think Rowlet will evolve because he's the token cutemon with a gimmick (falling asleep in Ash's backpack) that wouldn't work if he evolved
>>379300201
Frankly I'm glad the game rewards using your defensive options. Fuck SFV
>>379291631
>my nigger never made it
>>379291631
Machamp. Legendary gains.
>>379300201
Early on it was, but it really hasn't been zoning heavy for almost a year now: Zoners are always super good before the game gets explored properly in fighting games.
Obviously, though, if you are up against something like chandelure which is almost a purely zoning character, it's going to be like that though
So are we being raided by /vp/ today or something? All this shitposting over fucking Pokemon.
>>379300772
Not after that spoon bending hack threw a fit over it. Kadabra is literally Porygon tier and will never prominently be featured in promotional material again.
>>379300854
did you not know about the fucking POKEMON direct today?
>>379299454
>T7 is high skill
Since when has Tekken become high skill? Last game I played seriously was T3 and that was pretty low skill.
>>379300096
It's been too long, doc.
>>379300691
We didn't even get to test n swap all the arms for each character. We have a vague ideas on matchups and tiers, 1 hour sessions aren't enough to judge the depth of the game.
>>379300986
I name my Kadabra "Geller" in every game out of spite.
>>379300847
>>379300201
Also, yeah, that's from june 2016, which is when zoning started to become less dominant, which is why in that video you still see a lot of zoning
In my opinion, these are the best demonstrations of Pokken at high level play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTSWsTgeOMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjSFlYnIVys
>>379301019
I know about the direct, but most of /v/ is acting like someone killed their mom.
>>379300986
He hasn't had a card since gen 1 because of that literal Jew.
>>379294601
I'm guessing it's just because you're annoying, unpleasant, autistic people
>>379291859
This. I had high hopes since it was being directed by Harada sama, and it has great ideas but who wants to play this anymore? No one. Too complicated for casuals, too piss easy and boring for competitive players. Should've just been a Tekken clone
>>379291720
your newness is showing anon
>>379300691
>forgot Byte and Bark
>forgot that every character can use every arm
nitpicky - but the total amount of arms combinations to experiment with is about 9,000 or something: 10 characters, like 30 available gloves with variant styles and elemental attributes, one glove per arm (30 squared, times ten, is 9000)
Plus DLC and new characters
I'm not saying it's Blazblue, but this will be a fun game to spend time in the lab with
>>379294503
>Mimikyu
Fairy. It's shit.
>Toxapex
Good
>Tsareena
Looks like shit compared to previous plant waifu-mons like Lilligant and Maractus. Too much emphasis on legs.
>Kommo-o
Probably the ugliest looking Dragon created yet. The color scheme is ass-ugly, its anatomy is fucking stupid, and it's Dragon/Fighting type in a time when both types are shit
>Drampa
It's so droopy and out of place, like a shit version of Helix
>Pyukumuku
You mean the one that has a drawn-on face and is a shitty Wobbuffet with Aftermath instead of Shadow Tag?
>Golisopod
It's cool, but that ability is God-awful
>Bewear
It's alright. Not as cool as Ursaring, but it's alright
>Buzzswole
The only good Ultra Beast.
>Shitty UBs
They're ugly and more "overdesigned" than Mega Evolutions, and Mega Evolutions are supposed to be "overdesigned". They look like something out of late game of Final Fantasy, rather than Pokemon.
>>379291631
There just aren't any pokemon that I really care to play as in that roster.
>>379297384
All cosplay Pikachu are canon female. Also all females have different tail shape.
>>379301546
Bitch, we both know that is a typo.
In before this version is abandoned just like the Wii U version.
Still, I never picked up Pokken this time around. I'll be buying this one.
>>379299454
between low and mid, 3/4th to mid
>>379301801
calm you're self please
I want Electivire, Magmortar, or Rhyperior.
>>379301973
it was abandoned because its a pain in the ass for local setup and no arcaded characters
this fixes both of that and more
Also post trainers
>>379301546
"you're" is only not a typo if it's in front of "waifu".
>>379302183
>no arcaded characters
That's what I'm talking about. Abandoned by the devs. How it got none of the improvements that the arcade version got.
Post your most requested mon from each Gen
>Gen 1
Blastoise
>Gen 2
Hitmontop
>Gen 3
None
>Gen 4
Gallade
>Gen 5
None
>Gen 6
Greninja
>Gen 7
Never played it
>>379300361
>two of my favorites actually did get in
>shit like Galvantula I already figured wouldn't get in in the first place
why does nobody play Blaziken, is he just bad?
>>379291631
I love Braixen, I want to smell her fur~!
>>379302749
>1
Nidoking or Rhydon
>2
Hitmontop or Sudowoodo
>3
Breloom or Kecleon
>4
Staraptor or Porygon-Z
>5
Golurk, Scrafty, or Meinshao
>6
Diggersby
>7
Silvally
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Meowth or Muk
>Gen 2
Feraligatr
>Gen 3
Regice
>Gen 4
Drapion
>Gen 5
pic related
>>379302749
>1
Poliwrath or Kingler
>2
Smeargle
>3
Vigoroth/Slaking
>4
Luxray, Drapion, or Lopunny
>5
Lilligant
>6
Doublade/Aegislash or Hawlucha
>7
Bewear, one of the Tapu's orMimikyu
desu it's nice to see people even talking about pokken again
that game was dead as a motherfucking doornail before this
>>379305185
>dead as a doornail
>when the online is still active and the game is at a ton of FGC majors
It only seems dead because nobody talked about it or made videos for it because other people said it died. It was a self fuffilling prophecy
>>379305185
At least Pokken is gonna kick out NRS trash next evo
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Jynx
>Gen 2
Tyranitar
>Gen 3
Ludicolo
>Gen 4
Vespiquen
>Gen 5
Zebstrika
>Gen 6
Aegislash
>Gen 7
Kommo-o
These new guys are nice and all but when will the king return?
>>379293664
Cry more, bitch boy
When are they gonna add guest characters?
>there are still people crying about best girl Luchachu
i'm hype and you can't stop me from being hype
also definitely a croagunk main
Whichever one is actually fun to play as. So none of the ones that were in the Wii U version, at least.
>leave out Wrestler Cat
>WRESTLER Cat
>Lets put in Robin Hood instead
Fuck you if you bring up Lucha Pikachu being the wrestler in the roster. I want full on body slams, pile drivers, lariats, power bombs, and mother fucking giant swings
>>379306626
machamp has those
>>379306626
M A C H A M P
A
C
H
A
M
P
He literally has all of those moves
>>379301201
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjSFlYnIVys
One of the better Weavile players to date. Shame on how the Finals went out, but honestly he let himself get too predictable by the end and it costed him greatly. You can tell when he started wiffing a ton and was getting punished.
Braixen
>>379306626
Machamp, dipshit. Also Luchachu.
>>379291631
STILL THE BEST 2002
Pretty bullshit that he never appeared in the trailer, though. I was sure it was gonna be him when they flashed the shot of that green and red lizard, but nope, fucking Suicune.
>>379302749
>Hitmontop
Hello, shit taste.
>>379291631
I'll main Machamp, but Decidueye will definitely be my back-up.
really wish we had another water starter though. Blastoise, Feraligatr, and Greninja all seem like natural fits.
When's Tsareena?
>>379293502
Not every fucking character needs to have their own gimmick mechanic. That's how you get Robin with a pointless handicap for moves not strong enough to warrant it.
>>379308079
No love for Swampert? Personally, I'd love to fill out the Hoenn boys.
>>379308351
Swampert would be great too, since he's part ground as well.
>>379302749
>>Gen 1
Nidoking, EZ. Also pulling for Snorlax
>>Gen 2
Scizor got in so every good Johtomon is already represented. I suppose Celebi would be okay, if we absolutely need another one.
>>Gen 3
I have a hard time deciding between Regirock or Deoxys. Swampert would also be great, Sceptile and Blaziken are already here so might as well get the complete set.
>>Gen 4
Electivire would be fun. Magmortar too, but we're full up on Fire types.
>>Gen 5
Lilligant maybe? Anything but the water pony.
>>Gen 6
Aegislash would be amazing. Chesnaught too. I know people are pulling for Greninja, but honestly Sceptile does the shinobi thing better and less obnoxiously.
>>Gen 7
Lycanroc Night would be a perfect fit for this game, it's got great personality and there's not yet a Rock type. I'd love Golisopod and Ribombee but I think they're liable to be relegated to supports at best.
>>379308347
>Not every fucking character needs to have their own gimmick mechanic.
Ivysaur didn't need a gimmick to be unique
>>379309480
Its gimmick was "every attack is vines or bulb." It literally only got in because genwun pandering, not because it was a good or deserving choice.
Sorry, feralfag, quadrupeds make for shit fighters, and "bipedal" isn't the same thing as "humanoid."
WHO /owliverqueen/ HERE
i hope that the 3v3 mode has online options as well. and maybe even a "post battle switch" to mimic the real games
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Blastoise, Snorlax, or Muk
>Gen 2
Heracross or Feraligatr
>Gen 3
Swampert or Ludicolo
>Gen 4
Electivire, Infernape, or Dusknoir
>Gen 5
Scrafty or Golurk
>Gen 6
Hawlucha, Florges, or Zygarde
>Gen 7
Buzzwole, Tapu Koko, or Necrozma
>>379292013
Literally needed one more letters worth to spell decidueye.
Are you 5?
>>379304867
It just occurred to me how awesome Kingler would be. One of the strong points of the game is how interesting a lot of the Pokemon are to look at. Some of them are just bursting with personality through their body language. So it would be cool to see Kingler scuttling around and snipping at things.
>>379291631
Did Napoleon penguin and smug frog ever get added to the wii u version?
>>379311737
No. Harada wanted to update the Wii U version, but tpc didn't allow it. And that's how we got Pokken DX.
Yo but Ultra Beasts when though
>>379294743
>Politoed
>Toad
That's not a frog desu~
>>379311881
Too bad, Buzzwole looked like he was made for the game.
>as i say this they proceed to put Celesteela in instead
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Sandslash
>Gen 2
Feraligatr
>Gen 3
Breloom
>Gen 4
Vespiquen
>Gen 5
Braviary
>Gen 6
Hawlucha
>Gen 7
Passimian
My most wanted is Sandslash, I'll also take his alolan variant.
>>379311737
No, TPC is autistic about dumb fucking shit like that. It's the same reason why you can't have shiny pokemon as alt colors. People blame Nintendo anyways.
>>379311881
>Ultra beasts
>Incomprehensible aliens with mostly unviable min maxed stats and illogical typing.
I guess they could put in muscle mosquito or Ya boi in. I'm still disappointed that they weren't shapeshifting people.
>>379298126
That's because she's the best
This game got boring after about five hours and there were hardly any threads about it a week after release. Are people seriously going to buy it again just because there are a few new characters?
>>379313338
they have two versions of Mewtwo already in the game, so Ultra Beasts aren't really that much of a stretch
>>379313619
Switch is primarily for people who didn't buy a Wii u. Pokken DX, MK8 DX, Breath of the Wild, the inevitable Smash DX, and Hyrule Warriors DX or 2 are all new to the normies that the switch has attracted.
I hope the Switch version supports the Hori pad
>>379314284
Already confirmed it does, they are also releaing a new batch for it.
>>379314397
Oh wow that's great, glad i have mine already. Thanks for the info Anon
>>379313851
Mewtwo has a pretty good fanbase though and Gen 1 pandering will literally never end. I don't think they're gonna force people to like them like they have with Greninja, Lucario, and a few others.
>tfw this is the final roster
If the WiiU version is anything to go by the game will see exactly 0 post-launch support and content added
>>379314671
But the Wii U had two patches, dataminers found the files for Scizor, Empoleon and Darkrai and then all support stopped.
>>379314671
No shit, all its going to get is patches like the last game.
No one expects new characters just like with Tekken 7.
>>379315048
Tekken 7 is getting new characters and even a new mode added though
after launch
>>379315048
It's not unreasonable if to expect new characters to get added if they already exist in the arcade version, but with they way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few arcade exclusives made after release that only get added in Pokken DX Ultra & Knuckles for the Nintendo Switch 2
So has there ever been a tier list for Pokken or did it not survive long enough?
>>379316223
Someone posted the japanese tier list for the arcade.
I remember that Croagunk was the only C Tier bottom character and Gardevoir with Chandelure were C+ Tier or something.
>>379293590
>no flying types
Charizard's right there, dumbfuck.
>>379302749
>gen 1
alakasam
>gen 2
wobbufett
>gen 3
flygon (most wanted)
>gen 4
togekiss
>gen 5
reiniclus
>gen 6
aegislash
>gen 7
dont care, havent played
>>379316824
>>379316824
Found it
decidueye desu senpai
>>379302749
>1
Kangaskhan
>2
Wobbuffet
>3
Ninjask
>4
Tangrowth
>5
Throh
>6
Aegislash
>7
Golisopod
>>379317062
2slow
>>379317062
>>379317056
Really now? That is a pretty good tier list for such a piece of shit game.
>>379313619
>This game got boring after about five hours
5 hours isn't even enough time to even partially learn a single character, how can you even know if it's boring or not by then?
>>379317461
it's not a piece of shit
>>379318721
Seems like you like it so I'm sorry, but it is a piece of shit. It could have been so fucking good, but the end result is an awful mix of Naruto and Tekken and it didn't inherit the good parts of either.
>>379297341
So what do I win you ultra mega faggot?
>>379318959
Except it's not anything like the naruto games or tekken, so you just outed yourself as not knowing anything about it
>>379317056
>>379317062
>my favorite is absolute lowest bottom-tier
o-oh
>>379296793
How can something be a forced meme for nearly 12 years?
>>379293842
fucking pedophile
>>379297626
>wanting another Pikachu clone
>>379301663
>Fairy. It's shit.
Found the Dragonfag.
>>379301663
>Fairy. It's shit.
Not an argument.
>>379318959
>he fell for the pokken is like tekken meme
>he thinks pokken is like the naruto games
thanks for confirming you don't know shit
The field phase of pokken is like the gundam vs or dissdia games, the duel phase is a traditional 2d fighter. Neither of those are anything like Tekken or the naruto titles.
>>379302749
I already got my most wanted, but I'll post anyways:
>Gen 1
Jynx
>Gen 2
Ampharos
>Gen 3
Swampert
>Gen 4
Lopunny
>Gen 5
Lilligant
>Gen 6
Greninja
>Gen 7
Tsareena
>>379302075
Okay, I laughed.
>>379319153
It's mostly because of RNG in its attacks.
>>379319721
>croagunk has RNG attacks
What
Explain
Why can't nintendokids just play real fighting games?
>>379291631
Wait a minute.... that Croagunk...
>>379319852
yeah RNG
Really Not Good
>>379300012
>not liking chandelure's design
>>379319893
>implying Nintenbros didn't grow up with SF on the SNES
>>379319893
Pokken is a real fighting game
>Unlike smash, health, meter, and walls, Stages are all basically the same, no hazards, gimmicks, or items, only vary by dimensions and synergy placement
>picking up and using a character even at a basic level requires you to lab with them
>High Low system
>Multiple attack buttons/light medium heavies
>Crossups
>Attack block grab trifecta (additionally has focus attacks and FADC)
>Cancels
>Resets
>Basic fundamentals with footsies, mixups, setups, making reads, Oki/wakeup game, neutral vs advantage/disadvantage
It's litterally just a traditional 2d fighter, except with the phase shift mechanic on top of that, grabs being beaten by hits instead of being teched, and the attack height system working differently (attacks and stances can go over/under each other or punish each other rather then not being blockable at certain heights)
>>379300012
Yeah. Chandelure was a shitty choice. They should have picked something like Haxorus or Krookodile instead.
>>379320349
Garchomp is already in the game.
>>379319852
If I remember correctly, it was something such as its attacks have different properties or effects depending on its mood which is randomly determined after doing certain attacks. In other words, it's RNG what effects Croagunk's attacks will have, but you should be able to tell what it'll be before doing it.
>>379320250
>implying the majority of /v/ is old enough to remember when SF was a big deal on Nintendo systems
>>379302749
>gen 1
Snorelax
>gen 2
Donphan
>gen 3
Roselia
>gen 4
Froslass
>gen 5
Emolga
Gen 6 and 7 I never finished. Loved 5 a ton, found 6 and 7 just dull.
>>379320659
Just for clarification, I meant you should be able to tell what Croagunk's mood is and be able to infer what the effect or property of its attack will be. Generally, it was effects like applying buffs to Croagunk or debuffs to the opponent.
>>379300012
>and they all played the exact same
Why do people who clearly have never even played the game keep posting shit that outs themselves as having never played it? Same shit as all the people just calling it a tekken clone.
Characters in pokken are extraordinarily different from one another relative to something like street fighter, MK, Injustice, or even marvel.
>still no Rock or Normal-types
Please, Bandai-Namco, fucking pick someone
>>379321648
Dude, this game has the depth of a Naruto fighter. You get a list of universal functions every character has and their most distinct feature is how pretty their ultra is. It's no wonder the tier list is so close together, because everyone is practically the same. When their biggest difference is how they animate, it's not good.
>>379321760
>No Taurus, Lickitung, Castform, Aggron, or Lairon
>>379321864
Except that's fucking wrong, and I can prove it easily: Here's the fucking frame and property data:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/108awMgIuD21L0d1SQneG9w3KOyzwmWQ8335mkrOmm54/edit#gid=1602977002
Seriously, stop talking, every post you make just digs yourself even deeper into a hole. Litterally even just go watch videos that shows off every characte'rs movesets
>>379322049
I don't know how they'd play or why Namco would pick them, but fuck it, I'd support them
I just want fucking someone who's Rock or Normal
>>379291631
Empoleon. My favorite pokemon.
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Arcanine
>Gen 2
Ampharos
>Gen 3
Cacturne
>Gen 4
Since Empoleon is already in it I choose Luxray
>Gen 5
Druddigon
>Gen 6
Pangoro
>Gen 7
Golisopod
>>379291631
I want to play a character that lets me UNGA my way through everything
Who's the best character for me?
>>379291631
None because the game is shit.
>Press a button once
>Watch an entire string of attacks while you sit there with no input
Wow what a fun movi-err I mean game.
@379322806
Nah, not getting a (u) from me
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Vileplume
>Gen 2
Quagsire promoting from Assist
>Gen 3
Breloom
>Gen 4
Rotom promoted from Assist
>Gen 5
Reuniclusor Vanilluxe
>Gen 6
Chesnaught
>Gen 7
Mimikyu
>>379322806
see
>>379321648
>Why do people who clearly have never even played the game keep posting shit that outs themselves as having never played it?
Outside of specific multi hit moves that never happens.
>>379291631
>fighting Pokemon game
>only 4 out of 21 are fighting-types.
5 if Pika Libre is Electric/Fighting but come the fuck on. You have these fighting typed Pokemon based on different fighting styles irl, but we only get ONE mon based on wrestling?? (which wrestling is the gayest fighting form, the fuck?)
>>379296224
>a fourth fire starter
No fucking thank you
>>379323501
Pika Libre is pure electric since it's just Pikachu in a costume
>>379322775
Machamp although you'll have to work on closing the distance against opponent's with long range attacks.
>>379291631
Chandelure
>tfw breloom never ever
>>379291631
Glad my man Scizor is in there.
Sceptile <3. Literally only wanted the game because of him. Been my favourite since Gen 3 and I've played from Red & Blue to Sun & Moon :D.
>>379323565
>>379296224
If any other starter is going to get in, it should be fucking Infernape.
Why is Infernape not in here? Makes no sense.
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Ditto, acts like Charade from Soul Calibur in that he turns to a different fighter each round
>Gen 2
Wobbuffet, bit more of a joke character and more focused around countering/parries.
>Gen 3
Hariyama with sumo-type gameplay.
>Gen 4
Lopunny-Mega (Megas are gen 6 thing, but this gives more Mega representation), kick based fighter
>Gen 5
Lilligant, dance battler
>Gen 6
Aegislash seems like a pretty cool idea, make him have different stances with different attacks
>Gen 7
Golisopod, maybe give him some sort of free dodge/run away when he hits 50% HP to cancel out enemy combos.
I'll admit I haven't even played the game, so I don't know how everything fully works, but there's some thoughts. Though it'd be more interesting to consider how each one would work.
I didn't play it on wii U. Was it actually good? I never really heard anything after release.
>>379321864
>tier list is so close together
is this supposed to be a bad thing?
>>379325740
As a competitive fighting game, it's pretty decent. Main draw I would say is that it's phenomally well balanced even at the highest level of play.
However, if you don't intend on gitting gud and going to locals and particpating in the community and stuff, there's not a lot there, it has basically zero worthwhile single player content
>>379292790
Grenny's still my favorite Sm4sh choice if I absolutely need to beat somebody.
>pivot-backair is a 3-hit instant, forward is a smash attack
>flexible water-shuriken projectiles throw campers off
>fast dash attacks and can multi-nair/counter combo people if done right
>hydro-pump against floor to shoot quick single-balls and throw players off + finish with forward air
>>379292982
Nah, Narutoad is less broken/reliant on perfect-comboing to actually hurt anybody.
>>379291631
coragunk the cutest of fighters
>>379291631
Braixen all the way.
HOW WHERE THE FIGHTERS EVEN FUCKING CHOSEN IN THIS GAME?
>>379323501
Why are you fightingfags so obsessed with "muh styles"? Why not play Tekken and leave the Pokemon be Pokemon?
>>379327940
Mostly popularity.
Shadow Mewtwo was because obligatory boss character.
Pika Libre was an additional character they could make without making a new model + animation skeleton, but they still gave her a unique moveset.
>>379293305
>characters need something akin to limbs.
heh
>>379328264
The frog is popular? Why put it in instead of something like Hitmonlee or Infernape?
>>379317062
>Braixen and Pika Libre are S
I feel dirty
>Chandelure is B
What's up with that? Is it because zoning isn't as prominent as it used to be?
>My nigga Empoleon is A
This is alright though.
>>379328621
IIRC from what I heard it was based on region.
>>379327940
>>379328264
>>379328621
- Pikachu, Charizard, Mewtwo, and Lucario as massive marketing icons that even non vidya-playing people can recongnize
- Gengar, Blaziken, Gardevoir, and Garchomp are very recognizable and popular even amongst casual fans
- Weavile, Machamp, and Sceptile are all pretty popular pokemon amongst more hardcore, niche communities.
- Scizor is very popular in competitive pokemon play and is one of the most well known and popular bug types
- Suicuine and Darkrai are the most iconic legendaries aside from mewtwo and maybe rayquaza due to the anime and other shit
- Chandelure, Empoleon, and Braixen are all very popular in japan, and chandelure is pretty popular in general amongst more niche communities and fans in the US
- Libre won a vote in korea or some shit
No idea for croagunk
>>379329471
Libre was to advertise the Pika-costumes, also took less time to animate/design than a Hawlucha or whatever.
Croagunk had to be some in-joke on Greninja not having entry due to "avoiding Smash similarities". Possible slight anime-popularity too.
>>379329471
Anime for Croagunk
>>379302749
>Gen 1
I'm actaully not sure. I'm gonna go Meme-y and request Haunter
>Gen 2
Sentret or Hitmontop
>Gen 3
Kecleon or Spinda
>Gen 4
I Guess Infernape, even if Torterra is my Favorite
>Gen V
Golurk
>Gen VI
Greninja
>Gen VII
Not too familiar with it, but i think Kartana would be interesting if he could fold and change shapes.
>there are people actually made that one of these glorious motherfuckers got in
They're all great, it was a win/win/win situation.
Decidueye
>>379317056
>>379317062
>Close-ranged Pikachu
>Higher than Ryu Pikachu
>>379320282
POkken doesn't have a High Low system
>>379323070
>They're different because I say they are!
Fuck off. The game is shit and has the bare minimum amount of interactivity that a fighting game could have.
>>379292674
Do you have to keep trying to make puns? You're not funny
>>379331504
It does, look at the frame data >>379322240
Weavile's low stance goes under high and certain medium hits, for example.
>>379331374
This, it's the first gen where I liked all the starters and had each one in my party.
Still liked pic-related the most though.Hope she gets in Pokken.
>>379291631
Scisor and croagunk are the only cool Pokemon there
>>379331006
>Golurk gets in
>plays like Gold Lightan
I think Regigigas might fit that a little better though.
>>379331374
Incineroar is shit, though. I actually liked Chesnaught more than it, and i don't even LIKE Chesnaught. The other two are good though.
>>379302749
>Gen 1
Porygon with a bizarre moveset
>Gen 2
Feraligatr or Slowking
>Gen 3
Deoxys
>Gen 4
Rotom
>Gen 5
Scrafty
>Gen 6
Noivern
>Gen 7
Can't choose there are too many but Bewear or maybe Necrozma or buzzwole
>>379331712
No fucking way it would happen. I already didn't think Decidueye was going to make it in, my second top Alola pick is a pipe dream.
>scizor got in over best bug
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>379299584
Frogs have forward facing knees too you fuckwit. Their inward part is their feet, like every digitigrade. Same with Greninja. Everything else you described is literally this >>379293305 which is apparently a literal human according to you.
>>379331958
Golurk would be amazing in Pokken. He can even retract his arms and legs and go full and fly like a mecha or even shoot hyper lasers in this mode. He's just behind Greninja in my faves list.
>>379332794
>shoot hyper lasers
That's bullshit with its 55 special attack and you know it.
>>379332896
>Implying base stats matter in a non-canon game like Pokken
>>379318983
Nothing because you're fucking blind. Its limbs and digits don't resemble a frog at all, and its pelvis is far too wide and rounded. See >>379296995
>>379322775
Charizard. Fire Punch goes through everything.
>>379302749
Golem (Alolan is fine too)
Heracross
Medicham
Lopunny
Cinccino
Hawlucha
Golisopod
Where the fuck are the xmen characters