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ITT: Games that blew your expectations away

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ITT: Games that blew your expectations away
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>>379270723

you must have not have been hoping for much, or anything at all. the only thing FFXV blew away was Squeenix's AAA credibility
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XCX
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>>379270779
Yup, from what I've heard here this game is putrid shit, what I got was a comfy JRPG with an amazing story
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>>379270930
>an amazing story
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>>379270723
>MC didn't fuck that perfect royal pussy
shit game
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>>379272468
>Story
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>>379270723
did have any expectations, i've learned to just play a game for what it is.
Was a fun game. put in 70+ hours. sadly zero reason to want to play it again though.
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>>379270779
Except XV was successful in every aspect.
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>>379274489
Yeah, so successful that they're scrambling to fix it and Tabata himself acknowledges that the game is deeply flawed
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>>379274489
Except for the combat (garbage), the car, open world, Chapter 13, and postgame dungeons.
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>>379270723
>ITT: Games that blew your expectations away in the first few hours and slowly became more and more disappointing
ftfy
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>>379274759
They aren't scrambling to do anything, the game already broke even on day one and has been making profit ever since, it has the highest launch sales for FF in the US and the fastest selling FF worldwide. Tabata never said the game was "deeply flawed" or anything even remotely close to that, stop bullshitting. He said that the story telling is intentially unbalanced because it's not showing an omnipotent viewpoint because majority of the game is showing Noctis's viewpoint, and that is why it's not entirely comprensive, meaning it's just not showing everything that happens ever in the games world because it doesn't need to. All they are doing now is adding stuff in based on fan request. They have absolutely no reason to do it otherwise because the game already broke even, reviewed well and has been making profit.

>>379275042
The combat is fantastic, the car is not even a problem and they are adding offroad anyway, the open world is great, chapter 13 problems were already adressed and the post game dungeon like Pitioss is the best dungeon in FF history. If you're talking about menace dungeons those are just bonus rooms, not actual dungeons in the same sense of the other dungeons.
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>>379274489
Yeah is successful at being the worst ff.
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>>379275264
>It sold well so it must be good
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>>379270723
True. Easily as good as the classics imo.
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>>379275264
>adding offroad anyway
Did anything else ever come out about it?
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>>379275380
But it's easily among the best FF, nice shitpost though.
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>>379275393
>Ignores the whole post and just focuses on one part
Guess reading must be hard for you.

>>379275560
They're adding it, updates are happening throughout the year.
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>>379275264
>The combat is fantastic
It's not even as good as KH1.

>the car is not even a problem
It is a massive time waster.

>the open world is great
It's empty as fuck and the way encounters work prevents you from taking advantage of its size.

>chapter 13 problems were already adressed
Oh? The environment isn't drab, dark, and boring anymore, they gave us all our weapons back and enemies aren't just robits?

>Pitioss is the best dungeon in FF history.
The one that can be complete in five minutes?

>not actual dungeons in the same sense of the other dungeons.
Must be why they have the word 'dungeon' in the name. They are atrocious mob gauntlets.
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>>379275560
A few weeks ago they said they have the date decided for when they're adding it so just look forward to it.
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here we go
Man i'm glad E3 is around the corner
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>>379275393

Stop with the denial.
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>>379275761
>SBK91 again
Hows your attempt at trying to say Dante could defeat Goku going?
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>>379275573
No it isn't. Thinking it's the best is delusional.
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>>379275910
>SBK91
Who?

>Dante vs Goku
The fuck does this have to do with XV's combat sucking ass?
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>>379270723
>1 fucking zone fill with copy and paste gas station
>2 fucking explorable city
>20 fucking hours barebone story
>10 fucking year of development
blew my mind how disappointing this game is
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>>379270723
>Games that blew your expectations away

It certainly did. I never expected I could abhor absolutely everything about a mainline Final Fantasy. Even 2, 8 and 13 had a few things about them I liked, despite being mostly trash.
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>>379275761
It's better than KH1 in every single aspect.

The car saves time because it's faster than walking, running and chocobos. The only thing faster is fast travel, as it should be in any game with fast travel.

The world is more full than any other FF.

The environment is a fucking fortress inside an airship, there is nothing wrong with the design of it when it looks cool, and being temporabily stripped of your weapons for a few minutes is hardly even an issue.

No one who does Pitioss their first time will know how to do any kind of exploit to do it in five minutes let alone even know you can do that, the only person who ever did that is someone who spent literal hours in the dungeon and happened upon that by luck, even just reading the comments of his own video you have people saying they can't replicate what he did because he just got lucky.

Maybe you should stop being a literal faggot and be able to descern what they actually are, they are bonus rooms that are accessed through actual dungeons hence why they are only technically called that, their actual function are just as bonus rooms. The actual dungeons themselves are great. Not like you'd know.
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>>379276184
>SBK91 seriously trying to pretend he doesn't exist.

First of all XV is fanstastic, second of all why did you spend 50 pages a few years ago trying to argue that Dante could beat Goku?
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>>379276081
Yes it is.
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>>379276229
Really how does Galdin Quay look like Hammerhead somehow look like Lestallum somehow look like Meldacio somehow look like Crestholm somehow look like Wiz Chocobo post etc?

Meldacio, Galdin Quay, Wiz Chocobo post, Cauthess, Prarie outpost etc are settlements just exactly the same as there are smaller village settlements in other FFs

The story is as long as FF1-9 story go

It wasn't in 10 years of development, it was barely even 3 with the actual dev team. You can thank Nomura wasting 7 years fucking around before they actually got started with the current team.
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Every criticism of this game on this thread can be boiled down to:

>IF GAEM IS SO GUD, HOW COEM I DUNT LIEK IT???
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>>379276785
And every "discussion" can be boiled down to
>no you
>my opinion is better
>calling others shitposters
Welcome to FF threads
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>>379275775
>Dat shadow pop in at 2 meters
So this is the power of the gtx1080ti
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>>379276785
Pretty much. And then that faggot that sentence quotes every part of your post to answer in the most autistic way possible while he defends KH and pretends KH2FM is better than DMC3, Bayonetta and that Dante could beat Goku.
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>>379276391
>It's better than KH1 in every single aspect.
How many attacks can launch enemies in XV again?

>The car saves time
You literally sit around as it drives you places. That is a complete waste of time.

>The world is more full than any other FF.
Random encounters were far more frequent than XV's enemies and the space between areas was much shorter, reducing pointless walking.

>The environment is a fucking fortress inside an airship
Then it must have had its interior decorated by Hitler. Oh wait, Hitler liked color.

>there is nothing wrong with the design of it
It is a series of boring linear corridors that goes on far too long.

>when it looks cool
It never does.

>being temporabily stripped of your weapons for a few minutes
It's like an hour.

>No one who does Pitioss their first time will know how to do any kind of exploit to do it in five minutes
Unless they spent thirty seconds googling it.

>the only person who ever did that is someone who spent literal hours in the dungeon and happened upon that by luck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGeI3EB8eJI

>Maybe you should stop being a literal faggot and be able to descern what they actually are
Dungeons, as described in the title.

>why they are only technically called that
No, they are literally called that.

>their actual function are just as bonus rooms
An aspect they also fail at.

>The actual dungeons themselves are great
>easy puzzles and easy enemies
>great
No.

>Not like you'd know.
Cleared the game at Lv 1. How about you?
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>>379276472
>First of all XV is fanstastic
It's fantastically bad.

>why did you spend 50 pages a few years ago
Simple, I didn't.
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Weeb garbage, into the trash it goes
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/68706667?page=1
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/68706667?page=49

>3 years ago SBK91 seriously spent 50 pages trying to argue that Dante could beat Goku.
>He got BTFO

>People even complain about him on other sites if you search his username on google, speciofically as "that SBK91 guy from gamefaqs". For fucking years
Holy shit what an autist.

>Typing in the same exact way as he did in this >>379275761 post

MY FUCKING SIDES
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>>379277314
Holy shit he's actually real, I thought he was just made up.
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>>379270723
It has quite a few flaws imo, my expectations were probably a bit too high because it waited too long for it. The updates are also coming way too slowly and at least the Prompto DLC should've really been part of the game already or released for free.
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>>379277314
>greentexting is only used by one person on the internet
What?
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>>379270723
How can XV-kun even show his face after pic-related released?
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>>379276978
>And then that faggot that sentence quotes every part of your post to answer in the most autistic way possible
Yeah xv-kun really is a huge faggot
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>>379277996
BTFO
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>>379270779
I was expecting this game to be an absolute disaster. In the end I found it fairly good.
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>>379276978
>And then that faggot that sentence quotes every part of your post to answer in the most autistic way
There're two of them though
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>>379275380
>what is FFII
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>>379278203
like third worst
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>>379278203
A game where you can actually die if you don't know what you're doing
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>>379278203
I think it's the fourth worst
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>>379277170
It's fantastically great. And it's obvious you are him.
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>>379276489
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Some pre-release screenshots looked pretty terrible and muddy but it got fixed up by release except for the Venice city. That place looked shit and the framerate was awful, they really should have either fixed it up or just left it out of the game.
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Jesus XV-kun is creating his own threads now?
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>>379270723
I was expecting something good because the premise seemed decent for once and I ended up dropping it a few hours in.
I had the opposite experience with Automata, which is superior in every way
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>>379278470
>now
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>>379278470
>now?
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>>379278504
OH SHIT
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>>379278470
>56 replies
>26 posters
Yup.
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>>379277562
Shh... it's ok you were found out.
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>>379277080
Why does launches matter when it's just a vulnerable state anyway? There is no need for them.

Maybe you're new to open world games or something, but the point is you travel around in real time, and the car gets you to places faster than any other means of travel, only thing faster is fast travel.

Random encounters are not physically on the map, they are a transition, the maps in older FFs were objectively emptier than XVs, while XV is a more fully realized world.

Maybe you should look at what the interior of the star destroyer looks like, because Zegnautus is basically that. A flying fortress.

The dungeon is literally 30 minutes long at minimum.

It does because it has sweet design and obvious inspiration from star destroyer.

It's 30 minutes, made even faster once the update hit since you can sprint through now and doors open on single beep.

No one is going to fucking google "how to beat pitioss in 5 minutes" before they even attempt it you fucking idiot.

Not sure why you are posting a speedrun of a guy who has tried going through the dungeon a million times over, the only way he can do it that fast is because he has memorized every part of the dungeon and knows what is where, you aren't going to know that on your first time, even your second or third attempt you won't get it done that fast. You're average run for the dungeon goes from 30 minutes to over 2 hours, which you can see just from looking it up on youtube.

How many people have them beating it in under 10 minutes compared to people who take over 30 minutes to an hour doing it? Oh that's right. Retard.

>Still arguing semantics

Yeah and they are clearly fucking bonus rooms. The sniper rifle is called Cerberus but it's not an actual fucking Cerberus, are you dense?

And how does it fail at being bonus rooms when that's exactly what they are and they serve that function?

>easy puzzles
Is that why you are looking for walkthroughs on how to beat pitioss?

You haven't even touched the game
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>>379278470

No one is creating XV threads BUT him.

No one else gives a fuck about this game enough.
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>>379270723
Is this a joke? Because it didn't live up to any hype at all
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>>379277996
>XV-kun used to be a Nomurabro
What went wrong?
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>>379278695
he fell for the Tabata meme
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I think it was a fun game, but the story and characters were shit. Nothing was built up and none of the characters got fleshed out. It was like you went from one area to the next and every time all of your characters would just randomly change personalities.
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>>379277996
Ignoring that was just doing what the person that post was replying to did.
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>>379278320
>It's fantastically great
>hold button to attack
>hold button to dodge
>enemy hitstun, tells, and recovery periods range from bad to nonexistent
>entire weapon classes are useless
>majority of directional inputs, the primary mixups of an individual weapon's attacks, are dogshit
>three palette swapped spells
>RNG cutscene nuke summons that reward players for playing like shit, and there's only four of them
>Armiger is a terrible super state that doesn't make use of your current loadout beyond stat boosts
>damage cap renders normal weapon attacks worthess endgame for fast kills
>godawful boss fights
>worst mob gauntlets in the business
>RNG insta kill anything button
The game was shit XV kun.
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>>379278292
You can die in XV, not sure why you are memeing there.
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>>379278695
His hate boner for nomura started some time in 2015, I think after it was revealed that pretty much everything from the versus days besides names of people and locations was thrown out.
Now he calls him a hack and/or a manlet every time the guys name is brought up. Probably because xv-kun is also manlet too
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>>379278672
>"Is this a joke?"
>he's never dealt with a XV-kun thread

You sweet summer child.
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>>379278972
always fun when ya do this
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>>379278972
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>>379270723

I forgive them for it bc it's their first open world title, like how I can forgive X's voice acting bc it was their first voiced title

that said, wish they had released more with the release, like a full game. Also idk, the latter half of the game was super tedious.
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>>379278972
So by your logic every XV thread is only 2-3 people and one of them resets the IP 30+ times?
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>>379278806
Except you tap to attack and have directional inputs as well as aerial combos and manual weapon switches and manual finishers. All of them are good directional and individual attacks, manual finishers are all great.

Except you tap to dodge roll, tap to use shields too, holding is for phasing which uses MP, dodge roll is done only by tapping and it gives cancels.

Enemies do telegraph attacks which you'd know if you had played it. According to you none of these hits are telegraphed, in which case you're retarded.

Except weapon classes are extremely useful as shields, swords, lances, daggers, royal arms, greatswords all prove. While other weapons are good for the other party members like Prompto who makes good use of machines and guns.

The elemental spells all do different things and infuse different weakness in the enemy which you can exploit further from elemental weapons.

Summons are cutscenes in FF3-9, now they look better than ever and do a fuckton more than ever.

Armiger is a fanstic super state that is cool as fuck and deals a ton of damage, plus you get free bonus damage with armiger chain. Armiger is about royal arms so doing royal arm damage you dumb fuck, why the fuck would regular weapons influence that? Fucking idiot.

Damage doesn't cap at the end especially because you can manually incite finishers and different weapons deal different damage based on attributes like crit bonus and such. You literally release the limit on damage which goes all the way to 9999

There is no need to ever have to launch enemies when you can already stun them and make them vulnerable on the ground.

Bossfights are great against Ravus, Ifrit, Aranea, Ardyn, and the dungeon bosses. Level 1 exploit against Aranea doesn't change the fact that it's still a fun as fuck boss fight.

Mobs are fun to take out with tons of ways to do it.

Alterna being RNG doesn't always work and is pure luck, nothing wrong with that.

Fuck off SBK91 you havnt even played XV.
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>>379279037
>>379279189
Always fun when you act like that proves anything.
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>>379279736
madman he's still going
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>>379279736
>couple seconds apart
>two different timezones
The irony
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>>379278646
>Why does launches matter
XV kun's stupidity at its finest. So you admit KH1 did something better?

>Maybe you're new to open world games or something
No, they're shit in general, like XV.

>the point is you travel around in real time
The point is freedom and being able to fight enemies from extreme distances. XV walls off map progression in the main story and the encounter system doesn't allow for kiting enemies nor fighting at extreme distances.

>the car gets you to places faster
As you are forced to sit and twiddle your thumbs. That is terrible game design.

>Random encounters are not physically on the map
They trigger on the map, giving you more things to do than in XV.

>the maps in older FFs were objectively emptier than XVs
Except for far more frequent encounters.

>Maybe you should look at what the interior of the star destroyer looks like
Bright with lots of colors on the controls, unlike Zegnautus?

>The dungeon is literally 30 minutes long at minimum.
Which is too long to be wondering around boring, dark corridors.

>It does because it has sweet design
Drab, dark corridors is not 'sweet design', it's annoying.

>obvious inspiration from star destroyer.
Except for the terrible lighting and cramped corridors.

>It's 30 minutes
Try an hour plus.

>No one is going to fucking google
Prove it.

>Not sure why you are posting a speedrun of a guy who has tried going through the dungeon a million times over
Prove it.

>the only way he can do it that fast is because he has memorized every part of the dungeon
He skips most of it.

>you aren't going to know that on your first time
Unless you spend thirty seconds looking it up.

>How many people have them beating it in under 10 minutes compared to
Don't know, I don't speculate on shit without evidence to back me up.

>Yeah and they are clearly fucking bonus rooms.
Must be why they're called Menace Bonus Rooms.

Oh wait.
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>>379279232
There is me, SBK91, the faggot who always posts the same webms against XV who resets his IP and samefags, occasionally Matt who does that too, the faggot who keeps dumping screencaps from old as fuck threads, then random posters here and there.

Whenever SBK91, Matt and the webmspam fag are banned we have good threads.
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>>379278646
>The sniper rifle is called Cerberus
And noted to be a sniper rifle in its description. Where are the Menace dungeons called bonus rooms?

>And how does it fail at being bonus rooms
By being atrociously executed mob gauntlets.

>Is that why you are looking for walkthroughs on how to beat pitioss?
>pitioss
>enemies
What?

>You haven't even touched the game
I have, unfortunately. How's your Level 1 run going? Or are you too afraid of a piss easy challenge in this piss easy game?
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>>379279782
>>379279879

And the irony is still lost on you.
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>>379279995
>the faggot who always posts the same webms for XV who resets his IP and samefags
I hate when xv-kun does that
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>>379278972
>No, but SBK91 is coming into all these threads
Where did this meme start?
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>>379280071
now you're just being tiresome
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>>379280071
That you're a desperate idiot who resorts to childish comebacks when proven wrong. Even as I type this, you already have another one ready to go
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>93 Posts
>33 IPs
Hmn...
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>>379270723
Pic unrelated.
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Tekken 7 to be quite honest.
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>>379270723
are those knights with light machine guns ?
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>>379280524
How good is this? I've been thinking of playing it for ages but no FFXII in it is no good :<
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>>379276391
>That cherry picked webm
That's like posting the Lion King level gameplay in kh2 and saying that represents all kh gameplay
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>>379280725
Pretty good.
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>>379280926
>That cherry picked webm
Don't worry he'll post more
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>>379280725
It's pretty good, i didn't really expect much. They actually added Balthier as a summon later on, same with some other characters, even Sora from KH.
The stacking mechanic is pretty cool and makes turn based combat a bit more interesting, the music is pretty good and has remixes of older tracks here and there, it also has a pretty nice first credit scene and quite a bit of endgame content. And the super hard optional super boss is a mech from Xenogears
And it's way longer than i expected at least if you actually do all the optional content and shit, and it's fully voice acted every single sentece even random NPCs
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Not either of the guys arguing about this, but: Fantasy based on Reality has always been my greatest problem with the game. I'm a firm believer that our world and its general culture exists only in its form because of our specific circumstances. Adding magic or monsters into our history would've steered us into a totally different direction, so when I see a game that copies our world into another I'm immediately taken out of the experience. The probabilities, even if there weren't huge factors to consider, would dictate otherwise.

Now about VII being a different case. Every town is filled with punk hairstyle people (that make Cloud fit in) and huge pipes all around, because it's exaggerated larger than life dieselpunk. Materia is common and Mako ownership guides geopolitics. The two are merged.

Now I actually have the same Fantasy based on Reality problem with VIII. Paris shouldn't be in the game. However the history is shaped by sorceresses and there's a futuristic twist (tying to the main plot's theme) to things instead of dieselpunk. The world is a utopia and excessively cleaner than our world. Technology was the weapon of choice against sorceresses and everything is under the iron grip of fate, explaining away the extreme conveniences like Esthar's isolationism allowing the schizophrenic setting. Both sides are, while not intertwined, present at all times.

In XV there's a nigh-complete disconnect between the fantasy and real world reality.
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>>379279941
You didn't explain why launches matter, you deflected like a cuck. Vulnerable states are already in the game on the ground so it doesn't need to have another one in the air for no reason.

So you're just a shitfuck who knows nothing about open worlds and is in denial because XV is great.

Hey you keep going on about hitstun, where's the hitstun on this boss in KH2FM?

You have freedom to fight enemies from extreme distances in XV, which you can physically see on the map, which is seamless between every NPC populated area to dungeon area to outer field area.

XV doesn't wall anything off any more than FF1-9 do on their maps, if you had even touched XV you would know there are enemies everywhere.

How is that terrible game design when it's what open world games do, do you cry because you can take a taxi in GTA? The car is there for one mean of travel to faciliate the roadtrip which is legitimately feels like, because roadtrips are point A to B affairs, and chocobos still exist for offroad. Plus they're adding offroad driving.

The fact that they have to transition means there is less to do on the map, while XV has it all one one map for all battles to any interaction.

XV has more enemies in a single encounter than your average older FF does.

At a certain point in XV when magitek assasins start coming you'll almost always be fighting like 12 of them at once and they are frequent.

Maybe you haven't actually seen what Zegnautus looks like in the control rooms.

And you now sound like you havn't even touched chapter 13 since there is only a few rooms that look the same with some larger barracks and the central area, plus the control rooms and then the crystal room.

It is sweet design because it looks cool.

The lighting is fantastic and the corridors are supposed to be that way, it's a fucking fortress.

It's 30 minutes.

You prove it.
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>>379280047
>He skips most of it.
Because he has fucking done in countless times which his description even says it's one of his many attempts at doing it.

Where are these masses of people doing it in under 5 minutes more compared to the people who it took 30 minutes to 2 hours to do? Did you do it in under 5 minutes? Prove it.

All you fucking do is pull shit out your ass.

A sniper rifle is called Cerberus because it must be a three headed hell hound.

Oh wait.

The part where they are literally bonus rooms you go through in dungeons you've already been to.

Only thing atrocious here is you're constant autism attempts at trying to deny you are SBK91 while failing at every fucking part in trying to argue your point. Everyone fucking hates you not only here but on gamefaqs, I literally googled your username and found even on other competely random sites people mention you because of how much of a cunting fuck you are.

See just now, where did I say anything about enemies in Pitioss? You beat Pitioss by going through the dungeon, the journey through it is the dungeon, what the fuck are you trying to prove by showing some speedrunner who played it a million times finding an exploit to skip sections? All that means is that is a speedrun to skip the dungeon, not actually doing the dungeon proper.

And no you fucking havn't touched teh game, you have literally failed to post proof at every fucking avenue. I asked you here and you failed to prove you did, I asked you on gamefaqs and you refused to post proof.

You are the biggest fucking pussy on Earth, all you fucking do is make up shit against XV so you can cocksuck Nomura and KH2FM because you're a braindead KH kiddie without any semblance of taste. And you're an even bigger fucking cuck because you think Dante could beat Goku and you also think KH2FM is better than Bayonetta and DMC3.
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>>379280926
>>379281017
>It's cherrypicked because I said

So the Hydra is cherrypicked?
So genie Jafar is cherrypicked
So the tron boss is cherrypicked?
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>>379281561
>shitposters posting literal copy pasta again
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>>379281017
Completely on an unrelated note.

I'm replaying kh1fm and kh2fm simultaneously. But kh1 is the better overall game. kh2 is is great for gameplay but as an overall package falls flat.
Kh1 just felt more magical and the story is simple and compelling.
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>>379270723
*plays Kids in America*
>That mission was brutal.
>I hope the child soldiers are acclimatizing well to Mother Base.
>D-dog is a lifesaver.
*thunderstorm rolls in*
>is Paz doing okay?

How did they make me care about the characters when I've never played a Metal Gear game before in my life? How did these villains who I didn't know the first thing about have me hanging off of their every word? How is everything so compelling? The technology, the lore, the gameplay. This game put questions of torture, nuclear weapons and identity to me in an honest and contemplative interactive way that nothing before ever has, and it wasn't even completed. This unfinished game that somehow managed to be one of the best I've ever played is the literaly definition of art.

And to think, I was actually debating over whether to buy a Switch or a PS4 pro, with Kojima's Death Stranding right around the corner. After that NDirect I have to say I've made my decision.
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>>379281817
Not that guy, but why would a huge as monster have hitstun. It makes sense for humanoids or smaller enemies, but that's about it. Unless it's some super attack or something that put them in a certain state like some RCs in KH2 or some of the parries in XV
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>>379281817
>conversation about kh1
>brings up kh2 bosses
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>>379280163
>>379280229
It's not hard to use two different browsers to take screencaps with where all you have to do is change the clock on your system to a different time zone for the screencap before you change it back, then go "see look we're different".
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>>379281817
Bitch. It's like you forgot what you wrote in your post.
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>>379280151
>he thinks SBK91 is a meme
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>>379279687
>Except you tap to attack
Never required and serves no purpose.

>have directional inputs
Which are worthless and can be held.

>manual weapon switches
Which you almost never do because at least half of your weapon slots are dedicated stat boosts.

>manual finishers
Which are release once then press again.

>All of them are good directional
Name a good directional attack outside the Scepter's back melee, the Bow's dashes, and the Trident's forward melee.

>manual finishers are all great.
Too bad a lot of weapons lack them.

>Except you tap to dodge roll
Never required once.

>tap to use shields too
They're held the same as autododging.

>Enemies do telegraph attacks
That wasn't a telegraph retard, golems are just so slow you can react to what they're doing.

>According to you none of these hits are telegraphed
>bad to nonexistent
>bad to
You can read, can't you?

>shields
Only good for blocking.

>lances
Worthless

>Royal Arms
Over half are worthless. Also, how good of you to ignore guns being shit and machines mostly being shit.

>Prompto
Is for link attacks and techs, neither of which have anything to do with his weapons.

>The elemental spells all do different things
They are the same spell save color, negligible status and negligible environmental effects.

>elemental weapons.
What the fuck does that have to do with magic.

>Summons are cutscenes in FF3-9
Please don't start with this bullshit again. Every attack was a 'cutscene' then, and unlike XV older summons had a variety of useful effects and the player could freely choose when to use them.

>do a fuckton more than ever.
How many of XV's Summons cast Reflect on the party or reduce enemy defense to zero again?
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>>379279687
>Armiger is a fanstic super state
>weak
>three attacks
>requires allies for one
>doesn't care about your loadout, so it doesn't change nor can be optimized
No.

>deals a ton of damage
Too bad that's all it does and is boring as fuck doing it.

>plus you get free bonus damage with armiger chain
That's an attack you idiot.

>Armiger is about
Being a super state, which it fails at.

>so doing royal arm damage
It doesn't even augment currently equipped Royal Arms.

>why the fuck would regular weapons influence that?
Because that's the point of a super state, to make your shit stronger. Armiger is just three entirely unrelated attacks with super armor and not letting you die while active.

>Damage doesn't cap at the end
It is the last part of the formula, unless you're suggesting normal weapon attacks break 9999.

>because you can manually incite finishers and different weapons deal different damage based on attributes like crit bonus and such
Which are all capped at 9999 retard.

>You literally release the limit on damage
You raise it, which is also stupid and makes attacks that don't break it (ie normal weapon attacks) worthless.

>There is no need to ever have to launch enemies
Where did I mention launching shit?

>when you can already stun them and make them vulnerable on the ground.
Which isn't consistently done with a single attack input, unlike launching, doesn't allow you to extend it indefinitely, move the enemy around, and keep you away from its buddies.
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>>379281992
Because this faggot is going on and on about hitstun like if only XV doesn't have giant enemies without hitstun, when that's common in all ARPGs including KH, but he just ignores that.

>>379282018
So what's your point? You're saying it got worse?
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>>379279687
>Bossfights are great against Ravus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCPkRNDmCP4

>Ifrit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RshulZwkv5Q

>Ardyn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8IO-29B2nk

>the dungeon bosses
All jokes.

>Level 1 exploit
How is using food exactly as it's meant to be an exploit.

>it's still a fun as fuck boss fight.
>pressing L1+R1 then holding O for a couple seconds is fun
What?

>Mobs are fun to take out
You really have no understanding what the issue with the gauntlets are, do you?

>Alterna being RNG
Is retarded.

>nothing wrong with that.
Other than the fact it oneshots everything, including the superboss whose only claim to fame is his HP total.

>Fuck off SBK91 you havnt even played XV.
I have, and from the looks of it so has your boyfriend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNnfOXQtjUY

So, how's your Lv 1 run going?
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>>379282027
You are going through every mental gymnastic you can but the truth is multiple people don't like you
Fuck we can take timestamps outside our homes showing that it's day in one place and night at the other and you still wouldn't believe us
Continuing this conversation is dumb due to how dense your skull is but please post another lazy comeback one more time for good measure
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>>379281591
>You didn't explain why launches matter
Because it's apparent to anyone with a brain, but because you have single digit IQ, they're consistently achieved with a single hit (unlike vulnerable states), can be extended indefinitely, move around the enemy and get you away from its buddies.

>Vulnerable states are already in the game
Which aren't at all similar to launches.

>So you're just a shitfuck who knows nothing about open worlds
I know they're shit and lead to copypasted content and worse combat, like in XV.

>where's the hitstun on this boss in KH2FM?
Same place it is for Mundus 2. Was he a shitty boss?

>You have freedom to fight enemies from extreme distances in XV
You deal dramatically reduced damage and enemies rapidly heal until you enter their encounter radius, and you can't kite. It's a shit system.

>XV doesn't wall anything off any more than FF1-9 do on their maps
There are physical barriers preventing you from going places and 1-9 weren't open world scum.

>if you had even touched XV you would know there are enemies everywhere.
With huge stretches of empty nothing inbetween.

>The fact that they have to transition means there is less to do on the map
You get into encounters on the map to fight enemies. There is more going on in the older games.

>XV has more enemies in a single encounter
It has more enemies in some encounters which generally turn into clusterfucks.

>At a certain point in XV when magitek assasins start coming you'll almost always be fighting like 12 of them at once
With minutes of nothing inbetween.

>Maybe you haven't actually seen what Zegnautus looks like
I have, it's terrible.

>It is sweet design because it looks cool.
Literally circular reasoning.

>The lighting is fantastic
Do you just adjectives after words without thinking? It's dark and boring.

>You prove it.
I didn't make the claim no one will look it up ahead of time, you did. The burden of proof is on you.
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>>379282330
this game looks like a fucking joke
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>>379282274
>So what's your point?
You're an idiot is the point, I can't believe you have to be repeatedly told this
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>>379270723
I am incredibly good at guessing wrong about great games

>Bayo comes out
>Think it will be an horrible Strong Indipendent Woman Who Need No Sword version of DMC

>BOTW
>OPEN WORLD CRAFTING ZELDA WHAT COULD GO WRONG

>Mario galaxy
>gravity gimmick will get stale after some level plus waddle wii controls

and so on
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>>379281684
>Because he has fucking done in countless times
Noted nowhere.

>Where are these masses of people doing it in under 5 minutes
Why would there need to be masses? You said there were none. That was objectively wrong.

>A sniper rifle is called Cerberus because it must be a three headed hell hound.
Or, you know, to associate the weapon with a traditional symbol of strength, as has been done for centuries.

>Oh wait
I do so love your retarded parroting.

>The part where they are literally bonus rooms
Where is that noted.

>you go through in dungeons you've already been to.
In sections you've never been in.

>while failing at every fucking part in trying to argue your point.
Like when you said KH1 did nothing better and I directly pointed to something it did better. Or would you like another example?

>Everyone fucking hates you not only here but on gamefaqs
What does GFAGS (the site you have an account on) have to do with anything?

>See just now, where did I say anything about enemies in Pitioss?
When you responded to my point about the dungeons in XV being filled with easy enemies, which Pitioss lacks.

>the journey through it is the dungeon
Which is boring as there's nothing to fight.

>the fuck are you trying to prove by showing some speedrunner
That the journey is super short if you have any idea what you're doing.

>who played it a million times
Please directly quote him stating he's done it a 'million times'.

>not actually doing the dungeon proper.
Must be why he successfully completed it.
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>>379281684
>you have literally failed to post proof at every fucking avenue
Unlike you, I'm not stupid enough to give away personal information on an anonymous message board, but rest assured I've played through this dumpster fire.

>I asked you on gamefaqs
What?

>all you fucking do is make up shit against XV
Name anything I've made up.

>so you can cocksuck Nomura
Not counting rereleases I haven't bought a Nomura game since KH2.

>you're a braindead KH kiddie without any semblance of taste
>XV kun
>accusing anyone else of bad taste
Oh I am laffin

>because you think Dante could beat Goku
Something I never brought up?

>you also think KH2FM is better than Bayonetta and DMC3.
Please quote me ever making such a claim. Because my actual opinion is that they're all very good games with their own strengths and weaknesses.
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>>379282274
>like if only XV doesn't have giant enemies without hitstun
The small enemies in XV have barely any to no hitstun as well, unlike KH.
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just kiss already, holy shit
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>>379283010
It is.
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>>379275264
Get noosed, xv-kun.
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>actually wasting this much of your time to arhue with XV-kun
Holy shit, anon, why?
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Anyone expecting anything good to come from SE and FFXV must have not played the FF13 games.
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>>379283734
galaxy sucked though
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>>379282119
>Never required and serves no purpose
You are required to press the attack button when you want to attack, so yes you are, and manual finishers plus directional inputs are the purpose which vary the combo and let you do more damage through manual finishers No they are great and you can even string into aerial combat.
You are always frequently switching weapons the whole time in combat between your sword to shield to whatever else you have on. Manual finishers are a tap you can't hold to do them.

>name ones except these ones
Holy shit my sides, sword has sidesteps and backflip strings into air, lance has a stringer and backflip you can string into aerial where lances also have their aerial AOE finisher with the dive, greatswords have the charge attack which deals a ton when released and also the manual finisher is great for AOE mob damage too.

Only projectile based weapons lack them which is irrelevant since those weapons are focused more for Prompto anyway.

Dodge roll is required as much as you use it, which is whenever you need to dodge and it's good for animation cancels once you unlock blink.

autododge doesn't block attacks or knockback enemies and make them vulnerable nor does it have it's own useful warpstrike for mobs. Shields are fucking fantastic.

How the fuck isn't that a telegraph when it's clearly swinging it's sword and moving it's arms in clearly telegraphed motions, that's objectively a fucking telegraphed attack

You can't fucking understand what telegraphed attack even is if those aren't telegraphed to you, you';re just a dumb fucking cunt incapable of understanding anything because you're so triggered that XV actually is fucking great but you're too committed to trying to shit on it because it's better than the shit Nomura put out years ago that you spent your years of your life defending.

Shield of the just has one of the best warpstrikes in the game for mobs plus shield blocks are better than phases.

Lances and RA are all great
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>>379282119
Meanwhile in KH nearly every keyblade is fucking useless, nearly every spell is fucking useless, every keyblade has the same fucking combo regardless so it's just a fucking passive ability or stat change

>inb4 durr combo plus plus
Just fuck off with that shit.

Every ability that isn't dodge roll/block is useless

Reaction commands are fucking useless yet forced on you.
Then going into the other KH games with the shitty decks they're even more useless, then you have broken as fuck DDD just balloon to win.

Promptos weapons and techs are all what they are because of the weapons he uses, which are guns and machines. Trigger Happy where he dual wields guns and does a barrage of bullet hits is because he's using guns, Gravisphere where he shoots a gravity blast is because he's using the machine which can do that. Those are the only two weapon types he can equip which also affects his stats too you moron.

They are not the same spell as they are clearly three different spells with different elemental affect, which inflict different status ailments which you can explot further through elemental weapons.

>What the fuck does that have to do with magic.
Oh maybe because freezing something then using a fire infused sword might change the fucking vulnerability of the enemy or something. Maybe if you had played the fucking game you'd know that.

You're the only one starting shit here SBK91, summons are cutscenes in FF3-9, while in XV they are simply just better cutscenes and they do far more damage too with better visual effect and animation, being able to freely use them means nothing.

What the fuck does casting reflect have to do with killing entire mobs dead from the one summon? Why would you even need to cast reflect when the enemies are dead?

>>379282193
Armiger is strong as fuck, deals faster combos than regular at higher speed, and is using the royal arms to do the damage so why would it matter what your loadout is when it's a royal arms attack?
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>>379282193
It does a ton of damage and is cool as fuck to do.

Armiger chain is a bonus free damage you to get bonus damage, since you can do it right before the bar runs out so you can maximize your damage output from Armiger with it, which you'd know if you had played the fucking game.

Armiger excels at being great, meanwhile limit forms in KH2 are all trash.

Why does it matter what the current equipped is when armiger is summoining the royal arms regardless of equipped or not, and is therefore only dealing pure royal arm damage, not your basic attack loadout.

And no that isn't the point of a superstate, the more royal arms you get the stronger armiger gets, which is why you are encouraged to get them all to maximize its damage output. Armiger is a cool as fuck super state with fast attack combo and super fast warping with it dealing pure RA damage and bonus free damage.

You really have no idea what a damage cap is, unlocking limit break removes limits on what would be their previous cap meaning it goes to the absolute maximum that the game does which is 9999 which is the fucking absolute highest. Do you cry when your attacks do 9999 in other FF games too?

>Which are all capped at 9999 retard.
You mean uncapped to 9999 at the maximum you fucking dense cunt that is what the max of attack is in like any fucking ARPG with damge numbers on display.

Except it makes you deal more damage because it releases the cap and makes the attacks even more worthwhile. Meanwhile KH is always going to have shitty attack.

You did in your previous post where you still fucking shilled launching like the faggot you are.

But in KH doing an attack combo then launching is all just from mashing the attack button. In XV you can get enemies into vulnerable state by using crit % boosted weapons and break enemies more, stagger them with shields etc. XV is better than KH in every fucking way and has no need for launches when the ground vulnerable is better than KH shitty launches.
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>he is still going
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>>379282330
Why are you posting level 1 bosses which prove nothing in your favor? I can post level 1 KH2FM crit bosses that are beaten within minutes too. What the actual fuck is your point here? That you're a fucking retard who cant' make an argument to save your life and just clings to speedruns as your fallback argument?

The dungeon bosses are better than any of the "giant" or non humanoid bosses in KH are.

Do you even know what a fucking exploit is?

>Hey guys I havn't even played the fucking game but let me pretend this is how it's played despite there being more to the fights than what I'm bullshitting about
Ok keep going SBK91 the lying fucking cunt who has not played FFXV yet is still after months STILL fucking lying about how the game plays because you're triggerd it's better than KH.

You really have no understanding how to even play the game, do you?

How is it retarded when RNG spells are common in RPGs? Luck exists for a reason

And there is nothing wrong with that because instadeath spells exist in RPGs too and they are there for a reason, and even if you tried doing it against Adamantoise you are not guarenteed it to work, you can stand there for 20 minutes straight and it still wouldn't work, meanwhile you can already beat Adamantoise normally through regular combat in under 5 minutes anyway.

>claims to not be SBK91 yet somehow has a direct link to SBK youtube account with a video uploaded 1 day ago for FFXV
Oh, so it took you this long to get a video of someones exploit that you could upload?

>>379284230
>>379283010
>samefagging this desperately
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>>379285549
It truly is fascinating watching them go at each other
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>>379285246
>You are required to press the attack button when you want to attack
You never have to tap it. Not once. Hold is all that's necessary.

>directional inputs are
Shit.

>which vary the combo
That you won't want to bother with because simply holding O has higher DPS.

>let you do more damage through manual finishers
Whose cooldown and suffering from the same damage cap lowers their output below simply holding O.

>No they are great
Name any good ones beyond the noted.

>You are always frequently switching weapons
Why would you ever switch away from Zwill/Balmung/Apocalypse/Bow/Scepter/Trident. There is no benefit to doing so outside rock paper scissors vulnerabilities, which RAs don't care about anyway.

>Manual finishers are a tap
They're release then hold and never have to be used.

>sword has sidesteps and backflip strings into air
Worthless.

>lance has a stringer and backflip
Also worthless. God, what is it with Tabata and copypasting shit?

>into aerial
Why would you ever go aerial.

>also have their aerial AOE finisher with the dive
Which is unreliable, inferior to several warp strikes with the same function and fucked by that great damage cap.

>greatswords have the charge attack which
Is shit compared to pounding on things with Zwill.

>deals a ton when released
>ton
>caps at the same point everything else does
Nope.

>Only projectile based weapons lack them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNXvRReXho
You don't even know the game you shill.

>Dodge roll is required as much as you use it,
Which is never.

>which is whenever you need to dodge
Which is better one by holding a button.

>it's good for animation cancels
That do nothing.

>autododge doesn't block attacks
It's the same input as guard.

>knockback enemies
Which is done via parries or holding square with the shield, as I noted.
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>>379283886
>Noted nowhere.
>SBK91 literally can't even read the description of the video

>Why would there need to be masses? You said there were none. That was objectively wrong.

You obviously being the literal cunt you are can't understand hyperbole or a figure of speech, you are trying to imply that the masses somehow speedrun the game so where is the proof? Where is the proof that there are more people who looked up how to speedrun the dungeon before playing it than those who played it and spent hours in it?

Or you know, the gun isnt' a fucking three headed hell hound. Stop taking names so fucking literally you obtuse fucking shitstain.

You sure do love getting BTFO?

The part where you go to the room and see they are all just small plain rooms floor by floor aka bonus rooms, which anyone can fucking see. Stop being pedantic. SBK91. You've already exposed yourself for being a lying cunt already.

And again, what part of BONUS rooms don't you get? The entire point is that they are bonus rooms, as in new rooms that open up to you. Fuck you're dense

But KH doesn't do anything better, KH having something that XV doens't have doesn't mean KH is better, that's like saying because FF7 has a stealth segment it's suddenly now MGS. You literally cannot make any coherent argumetn and keep bringing up irrelevant points because you know you are full of shit. It's already been pointed out that XV doesnt' need launches because it already has vulnerable states ergo launch states in KH being in KH don't fucking matter worth shit.

It has to do with the fact that every fucking person who has ever come into contact with you hates you and shits all over you, and yet you are still as autsitc as ever after all these years. You LITERALLY tried to argue that Dante could beat Goku, don't even try and delete those posts now

Except I never said anything about Pitioss having enemies to begin with you fucking moron, and that you even thought they did just shows you are even more dumb
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>>379285246
>nor does it have it's own warpstrike
Like every non-machine weapon, which are all better than shields.

>Shields are fucking fantastic.
They're for blocking and stat boosts. As offensive tools they're trash.

>How the fuck isn't that a telegraph
Because there's no tell, it's one continuous animation without a pause.

>it's clearly swinging it's sword and moving it's arms
To attack you. The slow speed just lets you react unlike most other enemies.

>You can't fucking understand what telegraphed attack
A tell warning you it's coming. There was no tell.

>you're so triggered that XV actually is fucking great
So great it spectacularly failed to match a 2002 game.

>Shield of the just has one of the best warpstrikes in the game
>.49 modifier
You have to be joking.

>plus shield blocks are better than phases.
>better
>not omnidirectional
The more you know.

>lances
Complete garbage.

>RAs
Please explain what the purpose of the Axe is outside boosting stats. Or lategame Sword of the Wise/Father/Tall, Mace, or Blade of the Mystic.
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>>379283886
Except it's a great environmental journey through doing the puzzles presented which is what makes it great because it's a change of pace and actually something new for an FF dungeon

The only people who speedrun it are people who already fucking know the dungeon in and out, not people who have never attempted it before you lying fuck. Post proof that people on their first try in the dungeon beat it in under 5 minutes or fuck off. Posting someone doing exploits after spending literal hours trying to find them doesn't back up your point, it only weakens you.

>SBK91 still doesn't understand the concept of hyperbole
Jesus fucking christ you cannot be more of a pedantic cunt if you tried.

And how did he succesfully complete it when he skipped the actual parts of the dungeon and missed out on the loot inside? Actually going through the dungeon normally is completing it, doing an exploit to skip the dungeon just to get to the exit isn't doing it properly and you fucking know that.
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>>379284010
So because you're too chicken shit to post actual proof you just lie through your teeth and bullshit out your ass.

>SBK91 feigning ignorance again
Jesus fucking christ.

You made up that XV somehow doesn't have telegraphed attacks or tells on enemies, you made up that attacks somehow are worthless, you pretend shields aren't useful, you pretend you don't weapon switch in the game, you constantly bullshit and lie about things in XV while defending anything and everything KH2FM does because you're a braindead Nomuracuck incapable of making any valid arguments, plus aside from that you pretend KH2FM is somehow better than DMC3 too, plus you also seriously tryied to argue that Dante could beat Goku for 50 fucking pages.

And I sure as fuck don't believe you because you lie constantly, you probably have a fucking shrine dedicated to Nomura and have every copy of KH2FM with one spare you can jizz over.

>SBK91
>Trying to call anyone else of bad taste
>The retard that seriousyl tried to say KH2FM is better than DMC3 and Bayonetta
>The retard that seriousyl tried to say Dante could beat Goku
MY FUCKING SIDES

And it was something I found just from digging in your post history just from googling you, fucking sad.

And you were literally shitting on DMC3 and Bayonetta yesterday while you were here shilling KH2FM.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/379134494/#q379175845
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/379134494/#q379176690

Now inb4 you try and backpedal by saying "durr but I didn't say the words KH2FM is better than DMC3 and bayonetta", you literally fucking shitposted against them in response to a post making fun of you for thinking KH2FM is better than DMC3 and Bayonetta, that is more than enough proof you fucking shitstain.
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>>379284142
How isn't this clear enemy knockback?
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>>379287734
>And you were literally shitting on DMC3 and Bayonetta
Not the autist you were arguing with but that's anonymous poster you linked to
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>>379286760
Dude stop, you lost.
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>>379286760
>>379286875

>SBK91 still going all out in his autism crusade

You are fucking wrong and you were already proven wrong, all you are doing now is denying reality and making shit up while proving you are SBK91, the biggest lying cunt in existence.

I'm not going to bother going through your list of fucking autism again because you are wrong about everything you're trying to argue and always will be, and you can't even fucking deal with that, and you still have not even fucking played XV.
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What's this thread about again?
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>>379287969
You may want to read the actual thread.
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>>379288138
XV being great and SBK91 getting BTFO again.
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>>379288173
I did. You linked to an anonymous poster
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>>379288220
oh
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>>379285319
>Meanwhile in KH nearly every keyblade is fucking useless
There are 22 keyblades in KH2, 17 of which are useful at some point. Compared to the hundred or so weapons in XV, most of which are completely redundant.

>every keyblade has the same fucking combo regardless
Fenrir, Rose, Star Seeker and Sleeping Lion say high.

>Every ability that isn't dodge roll/block is useless
Please XV kun, explain to me how Sliding Dash, Once More, Second Chance, Leaf Bracer, Explosion, Limits and the shitloads of passive damage boosts aren't useful.

>Reaction commands are fucking useless
>Jump
>Aerial Strike
>useless
Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

>Then going into the other KH games with the shitty decks they're even more useless
Yes, the Osaka games are awful, that's why I reference 1 and 2.

>Promptos weapons and techs are all what they are because
That's how the developers programed him. The function of his techs are irrelevant to the weapon he uses and link strike variants barely matter. Guns are shit.

>Trigger Happy where he dual wields guns and does a barrage of bullet hits
Has absolutely nothing to do with the guns normal moveset.

>They are not the same spell as they are clearly three different spells
Please explain the functional difference between them aside from element, functionally identical statuses and negligible environmental effects.

>Gravisphere where he shoots a gravity blast is
Pointless. What a shame it's nothing like Demi.

>which inflict different status ailments
Which are functionally identical.

>Oh maybe because freezing something then using a fire infused sword might change the fucking vulnerability of the enemy
To bad it doesn't.

>Maybe if you had played the fucking game you'd know that.
I did.

>You're the only one starting shit here SBK91
I'm not SBK91 nor did I start this cutscene nonsense, you did.

>while in XV they are simply just better cutscenes
Citation needed.
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>>379285319
>they do far more damage
Try them at Lv 1. See how much damage they deal. And KotR hit for a quarter million with W Summon. Also, how about some actual utility?

>being able to freely use them means nothing.
>having actual choice in combat means nothing
Listen to how far you'll go to defend your shit game.

>What the fuck does casting reflect have to do with killing entire mobs dead from the one summon
All fights are mobs now? And it won't kill them at low levels, and Reflect can act as a huge damage boost, far moreso than summons if the old system was in place in XV.

>Why would you even need to cast reflect when the enemies are dead?
Because they aren't and its both a safety net and damage boost?

>Armiger is strong as fuck
It pales in comparison to actually good super states (Rage of the Titans, Ripper Mode, DT, Umbran Climax, Drives/Summons, etc).

>deals faster combos than regular at higher speed
It's a different attack, not a speed buff. Do keep up.

>so why would it matter what your loadout is
Because that would dramatically increase its utility and make it far more interesting.
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>>379286760
>You never have to tap it. Not once. Hold is all that's necessary.
Prove it.

>Shit.
Prove it.

>That you won't want to bother with because simply holding O has higher DPS.
Prove it.

>Whose cooldown and suffering from the same damage cap lowers their output below simply holding O.
Prove it.

>Name any good ones beyond the noted.
Prove they aren't good.

>Why would you ever switch away from Zwill/Balmung/Apocalypse/Bow/Scepter/Trident. There is no benefit to doing so outside rock paper scissors vulnerabilities, which RAs don't care about anyway.
Prove it.

>They're release then hold and never have to be used.
Prove it.

>Worthless.
Prove it.

>Also worthless. God, what is it with Tabata and copypasting shit?
Prove it.

>Why would you ever go aerial.
Prove you don't.

>Which is unreliable, inferior to several warp strikes with the same function and fucked by that great damage cap.
Prove it.

>Is shit compared to pounding on things with Zwill.
prove it.

>caps at the same point everything else does

Prove it.

>You don't even know the game you shill.
>He didn't even watch the video

>Which is never.
Prove it.

>Which is better one by holding a button.
Prove it.

>That do nothing.
Prove it.

>It's the same input as guard.
>Ignores the rest of the post because he couldn't prove otherwise
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>>379288582
oh no xv-kun broke
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>>379288582
>prove it
>finally snapped
oh shit
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>>379270723
Well, kinda agree with you...in term of shitness.
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>>379286875
>Like every non-machine weapon, which are all better than shields.
Prove it.

>They're for blocking and stat boosts. As offensive tools they're trash.
Prove it.

>Because there's no tell, it's one continuous animation without a pause.
Prove it.


>To attack you. The slow speed just lets you react unlike most other enemies.
Prove it.

>A tell warning you it's coming. There was no tell.
Prove it.

>So great it spectacularly failed to match a 2002 game.
Prove it.

>You have to be joking.
Prove it isn't. Show another warpstrike doing this much damage in a single hit on any other weapon.

>not omnidirectional
Prove it.

>Complete garbage.
Prove it.

>Please explain what the purpose of the Axe is outside boosting stats. Or lategame Sword of the Wise/Father/Tall, Mace, or Blade of the Mystic.
Prove otherwise.
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>>379288707
>>379288639
samefag
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>he seriously broke
I haven't seen him get this upset since he threatened to rape that kagari person
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So, who is this XV-kun and how do we know he exists?
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>>379288582
Prove it
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>>379289026
He proved it himself in a thread once, posted a screencap of him playing xv's demo and a link to his twitter confirming it
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>>379275380
You now realize people say this about every FF that has come out within the last ten years.
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>>379289026
Prove it.
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>It's FFXV-kun got shack: the threat
You are such a bully /v/.
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Why would you play 15 when you could be enjoying the masterpieces that are 4, 5, 6 and 7?
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>>379288353
>17 of which are useful at some point.
Prove it.

>most of which are completely redundant.
Prove it.

>Fenrir, Rose, Star Seeker and Sleeping Lion say high.
>inb4 durr combo plus plus

Prove they're useful.

The function of his techs are irrelevant to the weapon he uses and link strike variants barely matter. Guns are shit.
Prove it.

>Has absolutely nothing to do with the guns normal moveset.
Irrelevant to the point.

> functionally identical statuses and negligible environmental effects.
Prove it.

>Pointless. What a shame it's nothing like Demi.
Prove it.

>Which are functionally identical.
Prove it.

>To bad it doesn't.
Prove it.

>I did.
Prove it.

>I'm not SBK91 nor did I start this cutscene nonsense, you did.
Prove it.

>Citation needed.
https://youtu.be/8iIK4K_ly-0
https://youtu.be/v9aKTsLxfaQ
Better graphics,animation, camera choreography, visual effects, intense music, higher damage. Objectively better.
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Do you guys think xv-kun is a lonely person?

Maybe these threads are one of the few times he gets people to acknowledge his existence.
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>>379270723
So is FFXV the most forgettable of the mainline games?
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>>379289461
Probably is
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>>379288484
>Try them at Lv 1.
>He doesn't know about equalizer buff.

>And KotR hit for a quarter million with W Summon.
And XV summons kill things dead in 1 hit, only thing it doesn't kill is Adamantoise or Ardyn in 1 hit.

Yet here you are shitting on XV for having far more choice than KH. Look how far you go to defend shitty KH.

>And it won't kill them at low levels
>He doesn't know about equalizer buff.

>far moreso than summons if the old system was in place in XV.
See above, you're already wrong.

>Because they aren't and its both a safety net and damage boost?
See above.

>It pales in comparison to actually good super states (Rage of the Titans, Ripper Mode, DT, Umbran Climax, Drives/Summons, etc).
Prove it.

>It's a different attack, not a speed buff. Do keep up.
Prove it.

>Because that would dramatically increase its utility and make it far more interesting.
prove it.

You just keep pulling shit out your ass.
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>>379289231
Because Final Fantasy has been progressively getting worse, it's not a meme.
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>>379289541
III would be totally forgettable if it didn't introduce the job system to the series
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>>379285431
>holding a button to use the same attacks regardless of layout is cool as fuck
You should try a game with a decent super state sometime, like GoW2.

>since you can do it right before the bar runs out
Yes, like Limits in KH2, I am aware. This does not change the fact it is a simple attack.

>Armiger excels at being great
Please explain what is so great about it without using the words 'great', 'cool', etc. Explain why it is mechanically interesting.

>meanwhile limit forms in KH2 are all trash.
>limit forms
What?

>Why does it matter what the current equipped is
Because that would add an element of strategy and optimization, which it is currently severely lacking.

>when armiger is summoining the royal arms regardless of equipped or not
Which is partly why it's trash.

>is therefore only dealing pure royal arm damage
Without using their normal movesets. It isn't augmenting anything.

>And no that isn't the point of a superstate
>super states aren't supposed to make you super
[stupidity intensifies]

>the more royal arms you get the stronger armiger gets
In the most retarded manner possible. There is no finesse nor optimization to it outside 'use warp strike then chain at the end if possible', it's boring holding O.

>which is why you are encouraged to get them all to maximize its damage output
Except some of them are weaker than others, which means for max held O damage you're better off not getting them.

>Armiger is a cool as fuck super state
Repeating wrong things won't make them true.

>super fast warping
You have a funny definition of 'super fast'.
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>>379288974
>still making up lies because the shitpost is getting BTFO and can't back up his statements, is being asked to prove his statements
>B-BUT LE BROEK MEME AMIRITE

Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>379289682
Then what's the second most forgettable?
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>>379289541
No it's easily among the best, top 3 easily.
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>>379285431
>You really have no idea what a damage cap is
Capping the damage. XV's is 9999 outside a few cases of 99999.

>unlocking limit break removes limits
It raises them and renders attacks without the higher limit pointless.

>meaning it goes to the absolute maximum that the game does
Which is retarded. There should be no max.

>which is 9999
You forgot a 9.

>Do you cry when your attacks do 9999 in other FF games too?
Yes, it's a stupid outdated system that IZJS had the brains to do away with and XIII at least made far higher.

>Except it makes you deal more damage because it releases the cap
There is absolutely no way to raise the cap for normal weapon attacks you stupid, stupid retard, which renders them pointless.

>Meanwhile KH is always going to have shitty attack.
KH1 has no universal damage cap and KH2 has no damage caps period, what are you talking about.

>where you still fucking shilled launching
>you can shill a hit property now

>But in KH doing an attack combo then launching is all just from mashing the attack button
Finishing Leap's on Square retard.

>In XV you can get enemies into vulnerable state by
Dealing damage. Anything can do it and it varies from enemy to enemy, unlike a consistent launch.

>stagger them with shields
That isn't a launch.

>XV is better than KH in every fucking way
HP% based damage, item use.

>has no need for launches
>no need for launches
>in a game with aerial combat
XV kun, pls. Stahp.

>when the ground vulnerable is better
>closer to enemy buddies
>can't be extended indefinitely
>harder to connect with aerial attacks
Wrong again.
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>>379289541
No since people are literally begging SE for more.
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>>379289716
>still making up lies because
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/334777441/#334799426
When you make posts like these, it's hard to make it up
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>>379289803
I forget
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>>379270723
Why the fuck XV-kun are in denial much? XV just look good because past FF games are garbage.
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>>379289660
See >>379275871

Nope. XV was the Goochs GOTY. If the gooch says its good then it is.
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>49 ip's 170 fucking posts

fucking slow it down Bazz jesus christ no one cares anymore
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>>379289929
>If the gooch says its good
>old man who had to leave company in shame because his terrible movie nearly sank the company and who hadn't directed a game in a decade
>only makes average games now
who cares
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>people genuinely like XV

wow.... talk about lowering the bar on standards.
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>>379289692
>You should try a game with a decent super state sometime, like GoW2.
Prove XV doesn't have a good super state.

>Yes, like Limits in KH2, I am aware. This does not change the fact it is a simple attack.
Prove it.

>Explain why it is mechanically interesting.
Prove how it isn't.

>What?
Drive forms whatever, see that's how forgettable shit in KH is.

>Because that would add an element of strategy and optimization, which it is currently severely lacking.
Prove it.

>Which is partly why it's trash.
Prove it.

>Without using their normal movesets. It isn't augmenting anything.
Prove it.

>super states aren't supposed to make you super
Did you forget to read the rest of the post just so you could shitpost or are you always this retarded?

>In the most retarded manner possible. There is no finesse nor optimization to it outside 'use warp strike then chain at the end if possible', it's boring holding O.
Prove it.

>Except some of them are weaker than others, which means for max held O damage you're better off not getting them.
Except getting more RAs increases the total damage being dealth during Armiger because it adds more floaty swords going into enemies doing the attacks separate from the weapons Noctis is physically holding.

>Repeating wrong things won't make them true.
Prove it isn't true.

>You have a funny definition of 'super fast'.
Prove it isn't fast.
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FF fans are so in denial that they will hype and praise any turd that Enix shits out as long as it has FF in the name. Yet another guaranteed cash cow that developers can half-ass on, just what this industry needs.

>XV """story"""
>literally Heh nothin personnel, kid: The Game
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>>379285625
>Why are you posting level 1 bosses
Because they show how much of a joke XV is.

>I can post level 1 KH2FM crit bosses that are beaten within minutes too.
The difference, of course, would be those fights utilize a variety of strategies and aren't just 'hold the button'.

>What the actual fuck is your point here
That XV's bosses are trash.

>The dungeon bosses
The ones that fall to the exact same strategies as everything else in XV?

>are better than any of the "giant" or non humanoid bosses in KH are.
You can kill MCP with one spell? Link?

>You really have no understanding how to even play the game, do you?
Nice deflection. So how's the Lv 1 run going?

>How is it retarded when RNG spells are common in RPGs
Because this isn't a turn based RPG, it's Action. Action is about skill, and that requires consistency. Offense randomly failing is bullshit.

>And there is nothing wrong with that because instadeath spells exist in RPGs too
How many RPGs have instadeath spells that kill literally anything, including all bosses.

>even if you tried doing it against Adamantoise you are not guarenteed it to work
The fact it can and does is insulting enough.

>you can stand there for 20 minutes straight and it still wouldn't work
Or less than a minute, faster than any normal strategy.

>yet somehow has a direct link to SBK youtube account with a video uploaded 1 day ago for FFXV
Yeah, it's this magical thing called Google.

>to get a video of someones exploit that you could upload?
I don't know, I'm not SBK91.
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>>379289816
>Capping the damage. XV's is 9999 outside a few cases of 99999.
Jesus christ you cannot be this retarded.

>It raises them and renders attacks without the higher limit pointless.
Prove it.

>Which is retarded. There should be no max.
Prove it.

>Yes
So you're retarded and literally have no clue what a damage cap is. A damage cap is someshit like limiting your attacks to only doing 200 or 3000 for example. 9999 or 99999 is the fucking maximum of maximim that all games have for damage output.

>There is absolutely no way to raise the cap for normal weapon attacks you stupid, stupid retard, which renders them pointless.
See above you stupid fucking retard, learn what a damage cap is before spouting your inane bullshit.

>KH1 has no universal damage cap and KH2 has no damage caps period, what are you talking about.
>He's seriously this fucking retarded
So you're saying KH lets you do 34095734057309475 damage in a single hit?

>you can shill a hit property now
Yeah that's what you've been doing for months because you're a retrard.

>Finishing Leap's on Square retard.
>He thinks finishers and launching are all initiated by square in KH
I wonder if you even played KH. Just from mashing attack to an enemy whos in the air while automatically launch you into the air just while mashing attack you dipshit

> unlike a consistent launch.
First of all the enemies are shit to begin with which is why they are so weak just a regular basic combo locks them into a state where you just wail on them endlessly, instead of there being an actual method for you to knock down their defense first before you can stagger then as it should actually work.

>That isn't a launch.
No one said it was you fuck.

>HP% based damage, item use.
Is this supposed to prove anything?

>in a game with aerial combat
Yeah because you can already make anything vulnerable on the ground so no need to do it in the air, and you can deal aerial hits when an enemy is vulnerable anyway too

Stay wrong
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>>379289872
>this is you just bcuz
How is that me when I've never said anything pertaining to rape before that thread or after that thread? Meanwhile this faggot in this thread has mentioned in previous threads arguments against DMC3 and Bayonetta while he's shilling KH2FM.

All you do is pretend some falseflagging retard is me because you want to desperately try and discredit me.
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>>379283010
>this game looks like a fucking joke
You haven't even scratched the surface of this abomination.
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>>379290154
>waah i wish gooch would make FF again
>actually good loved FFXV
>waah gooch doesn't matter he made shitty movie that bombed he's shit now
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>>379290156
>he's still samefagging
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>>379290527
You obviously haven't even played XV if you think anything you said is true.
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>>379291134
>KHtard reset his IP to dump his webms of a retard playing like shit
>>
Same, I was expecting it to be mediocre and instead it was actually just garbage.
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>>379291107
>How is that me
You may want to read the actual thread.
>or after that thread
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/334802767/
Can't post the actual quote because you doxxed her but scroll down and anyone can see it
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>>379286769
>SBK91 literally can't even read the description of the video
>the description that says nothing about countless retries
What am I failing to read, exactly?

>can't understand hyperbole or a figure of speech
So you were lying.

>you are trying to imply that the masses somehow speedrun the game
No, I'm pointing out anyone could look up how to break Pitioss beforehand and do so, something you claimed didn't happen.

>the gun isnt' a fucking three headed hell hound
No shit. It is a sniper rifle, as noted in the description. Where are the Menace dungeons ever called 'bonus rooms'?

>You sure do love getting BTFO?
Where did you 'BTFO' me about them being 'bonus rooms' never being noted?

>The part where you go to the room
That you've never been in before.

>are all just small plain rooms floor by floor
IE a dungeon, albeit a shitty one.

>You've already exposed yourself for being a lying cunt already.
Where was that exactly?

>what part of BONUS rooms don't you get
The part where that is never noted as part of the game. They are parts of dungeons, and shitty at that.

>KH having something that XV doens't have
Literally means it did that aspect better.

>that's like saying because FF7 has a stealth segment it's suddenly now MGS
Is stealth part of the core gameplay and is it on par with MGS's?

>You literally cannot make any coherent argumetn
Your mounting frustration leading to spelling mistakes would vouch otherwise.

>keep bringing up irrelevant points
Like that games with aerial combat options should have the option to launch enemies, like virtually every one does but XV.
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Why aren't there any good speedruns or boss challenges for XV on YT? You'd think that it's a good game for it
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>>379291221
wow full damage control. No one is samefaggin. I just got here and read people like this game. Makes me think that there first only RPG was the FF13 saga. This whole thread reads like a buyers remorse denial thread. Stay made.
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>>379291492
What, how dare you, noone could possibly dislike this game. Anyone that didn't like it is just a shitposter!
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>>379286769
>It's already been pointed out that XV doesnt' need launches
No, it doesn't need them, but it was retarded for not including them.

>it already has vulnerable states
Which are nothing like launches.

>launch states in KH being in KH don't fucking matter worth shit.
Except for synergy with aerial combat, unlike XV.

>It has to do with the fact that every fucking person
Nice ad hominem/blanket statement.

>don't even try and delete those posts now
Why would I delete something I never posted.

>Except I never said anything about Pitioss having enemies to begin with
No, you just responded to a point about the other dungeons by citing Pitioss for reasons only understood by yourself.
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>>379291420
>'Hey stupid! Smash the button!'
>People defend this """combat"""
Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>379291684
QTE's are the lowest form of game play in the same sense that puns are the lowest form of comedy. Why did square fuck their own project up so badly?
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>>379290615
>Because they show how much of a joke XV is.
Prove it.

>The difference, of course, would be those fights utilize a variety of strategies and aren't just 'hold the button'.
Prove it.

>That XV's bosses are trash.
Prove it.

>The ones that fall to the exact same strategies as everything else in XV?
Prove it.

>You can kill MCP with one spell? Link?
>Dipshit can't fucking read
Figures

>Nice deflection. So how's the Lv 1 run going?
You tell me since you still havn't played the game nor can you even prove you have.

>Because this isn't a turn based RPG, it's Action.
It's an Action RPG dipshit. Action mixed with RPG, not just action. Learn the difference already you fucking idiot.

>How many RPGs have instadeath spells that kill literally anything, including all bosses.
How many don't?

>The fact it can and does is insulting enough.
Prove it's insulting or even bad.

>Or less than a minute, faster than any normal strategy.
Yeah or fucking 20 minutes or fucking an hour. Not a guarantee, meanwhile killing it in under 5 minutes from normal gameplay is a guarantee.

>Yeah, it's this magical thing called Google.
Really? Because it shows up only as SBK, not SBK91. No amount of googling SBK91 would show that youtube account in the search.

>I don't know, I'm not SBK91.
>I'm not SBK91 but I have a link to his youtube account which only SBK91 would know how to find and just happened to have posted 1 FFXV video yesterday.

Jesus christ you are transparent.
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>>379291492
>>379291568
>He's still fucking samefagging.
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>>379277080
You can't clear the game at level 1, faggot. There are story sections that force you to sleep and tally exp.
>>
Holy shit, what's so wrong about admitting that even though you like the game, that it has it's flaws? I fucking loved Star Ocean 5 but I'm not going to defend it to hell and back because it's obviously flawed in multiple ways.
>>
The threads seems to have gone off rails, but still, this shit blew my expectations away super hard.
>>
>only SBK91 would know how to find
>coming from the guy who names most of his accounts bazztek
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>>379292050
Yeah, it's not like there's an item that stops you from tallying exp or anything.
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>>379292050
They added an item for no exp iirc. But it doesn't really change that much, food is still super strong same with magic. In terms of damage you barely notice the difference, it's mainly a big HP difference
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>>379291512
>This is you for some reason just because
Really? I can just as easily say that is you trying to falseflag then responding saying "see look he wanted to rape!", there is no proof that was me let alone me ever doing anything like that prior or after, so no. You're pathetic attempts at trying to besmirch me are just that, pathetic attempts.
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>>379292224
>damage controlling this hard
damn it really was you kek
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>>379292039
No one is same fagging. Do you even know how to read an IP address, kid?
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>>379292224
>>379292310
>me ever doing anything like that prior
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>>379292461
>420
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>>379270723
Since it was stuck in development hell for so long I expected pure shit. I ended up liking it, but I do wish the story was more fleshed out, i.e. more Ravus, more time skip, etc. It felt like we only got a cliff notes version of what was happening.
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>>379292461
oops forgot the >or after in the greentext
oh well
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>>379292180
>>379292182
Oh, i didn't know that. I cleared the base game and i'm not touching dlcs or anything till its all released. Now i am the nigger.
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>>379291930

>That XV's bosses are trash.
>Prove it.
I'm not the poster you're replying to, but the issue with the bosses is that they can all be quick time spammed to death regardless of level. And superbosses like Adamantoise can be tackled as early as level 40, because his attacks are slow and predictable, and his damage barely registers. He's supposed to be this ultimate superboss, but he's nothing more than a damage sponge, which is boring because he doesn't have a good AI set up to give you a challenge. You end up just beating against a wall for a few hours.
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>>379270723
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>>379292641
>I'm not the poster you're replying to
he's replying to himself, ignore him
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>>379286878
>Except it's a great environmental journey
>great
>two minutes
Try again.

>because it's a change of pace
Yes, because I totally want to do puzzles in a combat centric game.

>The only people who speedrun it are people who already fucking know the dungeon in and out
Or watched a short video on Youtube.

>Post proof that people on their first try in the dungeon beat it in under 5 minutes or fuck off.
Don't have to. You said they didn't and couldn't, prove it.

>Posting someone doing exploits after spending literal hours
Cite these 'hours'. He makes no mention of it being especially hard.

>And how did he succesfully complete it
By reaching the end.

>>379287734
>So because you're too chicken shit
Rather, smart. And if I was SBK91 like you claim I already linked to him playing XV on Lv 1 (which you apparently haven't).

>You made up that XV somehow doesn't have telegraphed attacks or tells on enemies
No, I said it had bad to nonexistent tells, please pay attention.

>you made up that attacks somehow are worthless
No, I said some attacks are worthless. You really don't get nuance, do you?

>you pretend shields aren't useful
No, I said they weren't useful outside blocking, because they aren't.

>you pretend you don't weapon switch
No, you will rarely switch weapons because most of your slots are dedicated to stat boosts.
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>>379291684
>ignores you can completely ignore that by dodging or blocking
>meanwhile this qte shit is compulsory
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>>379291930
>XV-kun is still at it

hHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA
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>>379270723
Is that the dress they kept hearing about in the papers?
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>>379287734
>you constantly bullshit and lie about things in XV
Be specific. What did I lie or bullshit about?

>while defending anything and everything KH2FM does
I have never once defended the story, shitty minigames, shmups, etc.

>incapable of making any valid arguments
Must be why you resort to burning strawmen and trying to distract to a GFAGS boogeyman so often.

>plus aside from that you pretend KH2FM is somehow better than DMC3 too
Where did I ever say that.

>And I sure as fuck don't believe you
Personal incredulity is a logical fallacy, XV kun. I could just as easily claim you saying I think KH2FM is better than DMC/Bayonetta to be a complete lie.

>it was something I found just from digging in your post history just from googling you
>so obsessed with this SBK91 boogeyman you're actually googling him
Why.

>you were literally shitting on DMC3 and Bayonetta yesterday while you were here shilling KH2FM
>not a single statement anywhere that KH2 is overall better than Bayo/DMC
>only that it does specific things better
Shocking.

>pointing out legitimate flaws is shitposting
?

>>379287752
Nice cherrypicking. Why don't you show a complete, unbreakable stunlock against magitek soldiers using only normal held O attacks?
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>>379292684
this pretty much. It still blows me away of how they managed to run this game on the Wii. Its enormous and beautiful.
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>>379288101
>You are fucking wrong and you were already proven wrong
Not an argument.

>all you are doing now is denying reality and making shit up
Ad hominem.

>while proving you are SBK91
Who has apparently beaten the game at Lv 1, unlike you.

>you can't even fucking deal with that
I'm not the one running away screaming insults.

>you still have not even fucking played XV.
So you're saying I'm not SBK91? Finally starting to figure it out.
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>>379291542
>the description that says nothing about countless retries
>Description literally says he has done multiple attempts at trying to beat the record

>So you were lying.
>SBK91 still doesn't khow what hyperbole or a figure of speech is
How autistic can you be?

>I'm pointing out anyone could look up how to break Pitioss beforehand and do so
So where are all these people that did that? Where are these people who on their first time doing Pitioss "broke" it? Becaues the video you linked to was of someone who in his own description says he had multiple attempts. And just from looking at that guys account you can see he has three or more other Pitoss videos, meaning he did attempt it multiple times which you literally fucking lied about him somehow not doing.

They are fucking bonus rooms because they are ROOMS THAT UNLOCK AS PART OF DUNGEONS YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN IN. THEY ARE BONUS ROOMS PART OF THE DUNGEON BUT SEPERATE FROM THE ACTUAL DUNGEON ITSELF. FUCKING HELL WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

Serously how can you think you havn't been BTFO at every fucking turn when you are wrong about everything?

>That you've never been in before.
Yes because they are a bonus room, they are a room, you've never been in there therefore it's a bonus part of the dungeon that unlocks during the post game. Ergo BONUS ROOM.

Jesus christ you are literally hung up on semantics because you can't understand how colloquial terms work.

>Where was that exactly?
Every single post you've made in this thread.

>The part where that is never noted as part of the game.
So something which is clearly a bonus, and a room, ergo a bonus room, somehow isnt a bonus room because it doesn't have giant text saying bonus room? They are bonus rooms that you access from dungeons you've already been it, they are only tangentilly connected to the dungeon when they themselves are just bonus rooms, fucking hell deal with this fact already.

KH does nothing XV does better which was the point you fuck.
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If it still means anything, Persona 5 blew me away since I generally stay away from turn based games. I found myself engrossed in the game even loving the shit out of the combat. Really glad I decided to buy it despite being on the fence about it for about two weeks

A shame that FFXV didn't really meet my expectations, though it was still a good game
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>>379292778

Who would do such a thing? That sounds so pathetic.
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>>379288582
>There is no benefit to doing so outside rock paper scissors vulnerabilities, which RAs don't care about anyway.
>Prove it.
>implying some mobs are weak to RAs
What?
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Victoria 2
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>>379292084
Who said that the game doesn't have flaws? Just because I'm defending it doesn't mean I don't acknowledge flaws. I'm just arguing with some dipshit KH fanfuck who is still trying to shit on XV while propping up KH because he's some braindead Nomura fanboy.
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I really hope xv-kun doesn't act like that in reallife whenver he encounters an opinion that he doesn't like
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>>379293428
>Just because I'm defending it doesn't mean I don't acknowledge flaws.
Name three flaws you acknowledge about Final Fantasy XV.
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>actually checked the link of the sbk guy's video
>get this as the one and only comment
xv-kun is so hilariously butthurt
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>>379292310
Of course you would say that because your agenda is losing ground.

>>379292461
Maybe you should actually read the posts before posting your little cherrypicked screencaps that are irrelevant to the actual argument.

>>379292379
>He still thinks that proves anything.
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>>379293538
xv-kun never fails to deliver
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>>379293589
>that are irrelevant to the actual argument.
>there is no proof that was me let alone me ever doing anything like that prior or after
kek
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>>379292641
>but the issue with the bosses is that they can all be quick time spammed to death regardless of level
But they can't.
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>>379288884
>Prove it isn't. Show another warpstrike doing this much damage in a single hit on any other weapon.
>doesn't even hit the damage cap
Is that really necessary? Anyway:
>Shield of the Just Warpstrike modifier: .49
>Axe of the Conquerer Warpstrike modifier: 1.4
Anything else?
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>>379293538
Can't stop won't stop
https://twitter.com/_bazztek/status/871607340121772032
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>>379293589
>I shall keep deflecting instead of addressing the elephant in the room

FFXV fans, everybody!
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>>379293357
he's been doing it for years now and I though that he would stop when the game released, but nope, no signs of stopping. He should shut down in a few minutes considering how much he's been shitposting.
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>>379293721
The levels of irony in this post cannot be measured by man
Maybe aliens in the future will have the equipment for it
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Some motherfucker's always trying to ice skate uphill
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> Superior RPG thread

Superior RPG thread!
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>255 replies
>69 posters
On topic though, FF12 blew my mind. Ivalice is easily the most comfy world I've experienced
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>>379293721
Isn't he banned on neogaf though? So he still goes there and lurks nonstop? He also acts way too innocent on twitter, no wonder he isn't banned there yet.
/v/ is the only place where he can go all out
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>>379289315
>Prove they're useful.
Star Seeker and Sleeping Lion make air/ground combos stronger, Fenrir has the stunlock trick, mob stunlock and magic combos.

>Irrelevant to the point
>point was that gun movesets were shit
No.

Isn't it funny how, when backed into a corner, XV kun starts copypasting and parroting?

>Objectively better.
>one example
>7's can be used whenever the player wants provided they have the MP and materia equipped, and instead of tossing one bolt of lightning puts on a bit of a lightshow
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Superior RPG thread
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>>379294086
Yes he got BTFO on NeoGaf.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=843254&page=2
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>>379294086
>So he still goes there and lurks nonstop?
Apparently yeah, how pathetic is that
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Much better game then XV ever could hope to be
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>>379292840
>two minutes
So the hours people spent going through it and the multiple theories regarding the actual going on in the dungeon somehow appeared out of 2 minutes? Man you're so fucking desperate. Where are all these 2 minute playthroughs en masse compared to people who spent 30 minuets to 2 hours in there?

>Yes, because I totally want to do puzzles in a combat centric game.
Yeah you do because it's a fucking great dungeon, regardless of being able to use a shortcut to skip to the end, doing that is missing the point of the dungeon, and only someone who has already done the dungeon would know how to do that anyway.

You still can't prove someome who has never played it before and never attempted the dungeon before beat it in under 5 minutes on their first time ever. Because you're full of shit.

>Or watched a short video on Youtube.
See above

So you can't and you're full of shit.

>Cite these 'hours'. He makes no mention of it being especially hard.
His playtime in the game was over 52 hours, next you're going to tell me that because people beat the game in under 10 hours that that doesn't count.

But he skipped the whole dungeon so he didn't go through the individual trials each area had, therefore he didn't actually beat it, he skipped past a section using an exploit, which he only found by doing the dungeon multiple times. As he has multiple attempts at speedrunning on his account.

No you're just chicken shit, and you have seriously just admitted to being him while you're still desperately trying to deny you aren't him. What a fucking pathetic fuck you are. And even then it took you all the time until YESTERDAY to even get a single fucking shred of proof, so you lied about having played it prior to that and only just now played it after the fact?

>it had bad to nonexistent tells
Prove it

>some attacks are worthless.
Prove it.

> they weren't useful outside blocking
See >>379288884 and prove it

>you will rarely switch weapons
Prove it.
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>>379270723
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>>379289605
>He doesn't know about equalizer buff.
>he doesn't know equalizer doesn't fix Summon damage scaling or put them near normal attacks
Why are you so scared of playing through your favorite game at Lv 1? It's quite easy.

>And XV summons kill things dead in 1 hit
XV's Summons are multi hit and won't do so at low levels.

>Yet here you are shitting on XV for having far more choice than KH
>KH1 has six summons
>XV has four
You sure about that?

>See above, you're already wrong.
If the old Reflect system was in XV you could deal half a million off one spell, that's far stronger than any Summon.

>Ripper Mode
Increases your damage output against mobs by an order of magnitude and adds cutting (somewhat akin to insta death) to your normal attacks. Please explain how Armiger compares to that.

>having Armiger augment your currently equipped weapons, instead of replacing them, wouldn't considerably up its utility
Apparently 3 attacks are more interesting than every weapon moveset in the game combined.
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>>379293709

I can of course back up what I say. You can do this with the samurai boss in the mines, you can also do it with the level 100+ samurai boss that you get hired to hunt in Lestallum. Pretty much every attack of his is a quick time event, one you can easily press since the window is very long.
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>>379270930
>comfyfags
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>>379290304
>Prove XV doesn't have a good super state.
It doesn't supe up your normal options, just replaces them with three boring attacks.

>see that's how forgettable shit in KH is.
Rather, how little you understand the game.

>Did you forget to read the rest of the post
No, the rest didn't address that point either.

>Except getting more RAs increases the total damage being dealth during Armiger
Wrong. Some RAs have lower modifiers than others, and mixing these in would dilute the attack cycle with weaker attacks.

>because it adds more floaty swords
The same number are always going into the enemy, having more RAs just changes what's actually striking them.
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this
>>379292684
this too
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>>379292972
>What did I lie or bullshit about?
See >>379287734
You made up that XV somehow doesn't have telegraphed attacks or tells on enemies, you made up that attacks somehow are worthless, you pretend shields aren't useful, you pretend you don't weapon switch in the game, you constantly bullshit and lie about things in XV while defending anything and everything KH2FM does because you're a braindead Nomuracuck incapable of making any valid arguments, plus aside from that you pretend KH2FM is somehow better than DMC3 too, plus you also seriously tryied to argue that Dante could beat Goku for 50 fucking pages.

>I have never once defended the story, shitty minigames, shmups, etc.
FFXV has a better story, characters, minigames than KH2

>Must be why you resort to burning strawmen and trying to distract to a GFAGS boogeyman so often.
>boogeyman meme again after you already exposed yourself

>Where did I ever say that.
See https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/379134494/#q379175845
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/379134494/#q379176690

Now here comes the part where you pretend that wasn't you.

>boogeyman
So desperate to deflect that you got exposed.

>not a single statement anywhere that KH2 is overall better than Bayo/DMC
Ignoring that you were shitting on DMC3 and Bayo while shilling KH2FM, and now you're doing exactly what I said you were doing by trying to argue literal word for word posts instead of what you were clearly fucking arguing. All you do is backpedal like you are doing right now, all you do is lie like you are doing right now. You are the biggest lying cunt I have ever fucking seen. You're so fucking chicken shit to commit to anything and are a deer in headlight because you got exposed for being some dipshit faggot from another site that everyone hates.
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>>379292972
How is that cherrypicked at all?
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>2020-3
>People are still wasting their time engaging with bazztek's unironical autism

I mean, come on.
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>>379295113
All I see are anonymous posters
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>>379293180
>Not an argument.
It is, you just ignored it.

>Ad hominem.
Not an argument.

>Who has apparently beaten the game at Lv 1, unlike you
So now you "totally not SBK91" is speaking on his behalf? My fucking sides.

>I'm not the one running away screaming insults.
instead you are the one screaming insults while shilling KH2FM and being wrong about FFXV.

>So you're saying I'm not SBK91? Finally starting to figure it out.
It's obvious you are, which is why you are so desperate to deflect.
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FFX IS THE BEST FF GAME!!!
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>>379295201
Do you have any webms that aren't 5 second touched up webms?
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>>379290898
>Jesus christ you cannot be this retarded.
You are actually claiming the damage caps of XV aren't 9999 and 99999?

>A damage cap is someshit like limiting your attacks to only doing 200 or 3000 for example.
Or 9999. Like XV generally does.

>9999 or 99999 is the fucking maximum of maximim that all games have for damage output.
LR is 999999 and IZJS has no damage cap whatsoever. You are completely, utterly wrong.

>learn what a damage cap is
I have already explained it several times. Vanilla XII had the usual 9999 cap (outside a few exceptions) before IZJS removed it. Being 9999 doesn't change the fact it is a cap.

>So you're saying KH lets you do 34095734057309475 damage in a single hit?
If stats could be boosted that high, yes, it would.

>Yeah that's what you've been doing for months because you're a retrard.
>calling someone else a retard
>can't even spell retard right

>Just from mashing attack to an enemy whos in the air while automatically launch you
How about when they're on the ground.

>First of all the enemies are shit to begin
Sorcerers, Devastators, hot rods and toyboxes are all far more dangerous than XV's mobs.

>just a regular basic combo locks them into a state where you just wail on them endlessly
Is that why Devastators will smack you through a combo?

>instead of there being an actual method for you to knock down their defense first
Like having strong hitstun options. Like finishers, magic and Limits.

>No one said it was
You implied it made up for XV's lack of launches. It doesn't.

>Is this supposed to prove anything?
That KH does some things objectively better than XV.

>so no need to do it in the air
There is absolutely no need to use magic at any point in XV. Does this mean XV would be better off without magic?
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>>379293371
See the webm in >>379288884

Show me another regular weapon warpstrike that does that much damage on that many enemies at once. That was 10 enemies all knocked down to half HP in a single warpstrike hit, hell I could have taken them all out in just a second one too but I just wanted to see how long the est of the fight would last until there was at leas 1 enemy left. The fight was less than 25 seconds and that was by not going all out.
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>>379294342
Yet you stalk my twitter.
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>>379295653
>I don't know what file paging is

All FF games are limited in damage count in accordance to the page file bit length. This is just simple computer program. To say FF12 has no damage cap is just plane ignorance.
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>>379293690
Yes and if you read the actual post I was talking about the fucking faggot trying to say the rape shit, maybe you should actually read before chiming in with your unwanted opinion.
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>>379295653
Goddamn your autism is palpable.
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>>379291930
>Because it shows up only as SBK, not SBK91.
So? He even does Lv 1 KH stuff.
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>>379295843
>post link to your own twitter on multiple occasions
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/357593825/#357614395
>expect people to ignore it then on
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My main issues with 15 from playing the demo are the shit framerate which will be fixed when the master race PC version comes out.

But no amount of ports will fix that terrible button mashing combat.
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>>379270779
>you must have not have been hoping for much, or anything at all. the only thing FFXV blew away was Squeenix's AAA credibility
What is the deal with the hyperbole and FFXV? It's like everybody has an extreme love/hate opinion about a game that NOBODY should have had an extreme opinion about. I mean, it's a fine FF game. Not the best, not the worst... probably somewhere around the middle of the pack. Which, unless you swallow developer hype without question, should be about what you'd expect.

And yet we have all these people screaming about how they expected the best game of the century and were crushed when it was just a normal mid-grade rpg. Why? We haven't expected new FF games to be perfect masterpieces since FF8 came out.
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>>379294593
>He seriously doesn't know about equalizer and that it works even better when you are at level 1.

>XV's Summons are multi hit and won't do so at low levels.
>He doesn't know about equalizer

>B-BUT THIS ONE THING LET ME IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE
XV has far more weapons than KH, that already exceeds what KH can do. Anything else XV does is just cherry on top.

>If the old Reflect system was in XV you could deal half a million off one spell, that's far stronger than any Summon.
Except on literally any regular playthrough you are already killing anything dead when summoning.

And Armiger increases you damage output and attack speed by order of magitude as well as increased defense. Compare the amount of damage you deal when expensing the full armiger plus armiger chain compared to doing just a regular attack combo for the same duration. Armiger deals far more, faster. It doesn't need your loadout to do anything when it's already stronger than your regular attacks anyway.


Apparently you're fucking blind and ignoring the weapons that all stabbing into the enemies while you are attacking too.
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I starting to think XV kun had only money for one game, so he get his game worth out of mindless posting online
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>>379294814
But you can't, because you can't. And you're full of shit thinking every attack is QTE.

>>379294956
So it's a good super state because it puts you into an actual super state.

No, KH is just forgettable shit. Already no one even talks about 0.2 anymore.

The rest of the post did but you ignored it because it wrecked you.

Jesus christ you are fucking stupid, those modifiars are for regular loadout, when you get a royal arm doing the armiger it is using their attack stat for the weapon, the more weapons you have in the armiger the more damge is being dealt because more weapons are spinning around stabbing into the enemies, regardless of the physical weapons Noctis is swinging during Armiger.

If you have 10 armiger weapons then only 10 of the weapons hit into enemies dealing the damage pertaining to only 10, when you have all 13 then it deals damage of all the 13. Having all of the weapons increases its strength and damage output.

>The same number are always going into the enemy, having more RAs just changes what's actually striking them.
This is factually fucking wrong. Having more RAs has more RAs hitting the enemies which increases the damage output.

You are BTFO right there.
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>>379295202
You can stop samefagging
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>>379295549
What does being motion blur added have to do with the animations shown when Noctis hits an enemy, showing very clear knockback?
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These deflection threads are hilarious. How much are you being paid to shill, OP?
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>>379297235
>paid
you must be new
he does that for free
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>>379297332
No way... no one is this retarded.....
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>>379297426
He is
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>>379297426
He's been doing that for at least 3-4 years
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>>379297541
Damn.... well... since damage cap was brought up earlier in this thread.... does this game have a damage over flow glitch like previous FF games?
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>>379293538
Source.
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>Believes everyone is a shitposter
>Instead humours said "shitposters" and feeds attention to them to continue shitting on threads and goading him
Wow, I mean he goes on NeoGAF, but I never expected a man to not know the thing any rational person knows to do with apparent shitposts/trolls.
But outside about crying for some guy's actions, I thought pic related would be meh based on a friend's recomendation, never thought it actually made me feel for the first time in ages towards a game.
>>379296641
Nah man, he bought and shitposts on new games too. mainly Nier and P5 (screen cap of P5's after Kamoshida)
Though never completes them, but playing at least a couple hours allows for some arguements, even if it's weak or poorly founded.
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>>379297781
this guy's post>>379282330
the last link
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>>379295653
Jesus fucking christ you seriously have no idea what a damage cap is nor do you even know what the point of 9999/99999/999999 damage is. Multiple 9s is always going to be the fucking highest you output you goddamn retard.

Like holy fucking shit how can you even posses this much autism?

>LR is 999999 and IZJS has no damage cap whatsoever.
See above..

>I have already explained it several times.
No you literally have no idea what a damage cap actually is, you don't know the difference between the systems max damage output and a limit placed on top of the system. Every fucking game in existence with damage calculating has a system max you fucking shit.

>yes, it would.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THE FUCKING NERVE OF THIS FUCK

>Retard so devoid of arguments he has to cling to typos instead
That says it all really.

>How about when they're on the ground.
autolaunches just from mashing attack, every KH does this. KH1 does this, KH2 does this, BBS, DDD, Days, ReCoded and 0.2 do this. Pull your head out of your ass. They will automatically target an enemy in the air or even if you knocked one back who's knockback is in the air they will launch and continue attacking while in the air.

>Sorcerers, Devastators, hot rods and toyboxes are all far more dangerous than XV's mobs.
Prove it.

>Is that why Devastators will smack you through a combo?
Is that why Magitek Assassins will smack you through a combo?

>Like having strong hitstun options. Like finishers, magic and Limits.
Where is the hitstun on Hydra? On Genie Jafar? On the Tron boss? On the other Tron boss? On the lion King giant boss?

>You implied it made up for XV's lack of launches. It doesn't.
It does and I explained how, you are just in denial because your precious launches are being devalued.

>That KH does some things objectively better than XV.
KH doesn't do anything that XV does better than XV does it.

>There is absolutely no need to use magic at any point in XV.
There is, not for KH though.
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>>379296198
And yet you posted a screencap of a post I made just the other day, so you are stalking it.
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>>379270723
I had no expectations and it was still disappointing.
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>>379297235
What deflection? You mean the retard desperately trying to shit on XV who keeps deflecting?
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>>379297235
>>379297426
>>379297653
Stop samefagging.
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>>379298102
I didn't post that screencap
Not everyone is the same person, which you seem to have trouble understanding
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>>379298225
>>379298249
Keep deflecting, kid. You haven't said one correct thing in this thread.
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>>379298106
Nice lack of a new IP.
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>>379297210
'm not that guy, i'm just asking. I see them all the time and imo they just make the game look worse , like someone tried to make it look like a movie or order 1886 or some shit
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>>379298361
>t-that wasn't me
Yet you have links at the ready.

>>379298385
Says the faggot that was proven wrong this whole thread.
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>>379298385
>kid
Trying too hard.
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>>379297426
It's sort of sad.
Makes you think what games he enjoyed before waiting 10 years for XV.
Seriously, was there more to life than FFXV? Answer me man.
>>379296502
I mean it's mostly dashed hype/delusions which cause extremes. And with the whole mess of a development it's surprising it's decent at best, impressive really.
Though there are notable flaws and it is expected to have some disapointment compared to early builds (especically considering the wait), but in these threads you pretty much got an extreme making a fool of himself and others getting a rise out of him with the other extreme/trying to counter his points.
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>>379298532
They look nice though.
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>>379298570
>t-that wasn't me
Yep, looks like you finally understand that was a different anon.
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>>379298570
you mean you proved me wrong on file paging. Becuase that is the only thing I have said in this thread. And I asked if this game had overflow glitch like all other FF games. I dont see how you proved anything wrong since programmers limit damage and overflow based the bit length of page filing. You should probably bone up on your programming before making outrageous claims on data input and output.
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>>379296502
It's just because Nomura fanboys are batshit fucking insane and they take their bullshit too seriously and take any tiny flaw in XV as the insult to their existence. A whole pack of them conjugated over on gamefaqs and they cross post here too, letting each other know via PM when they are shitting up XV threads here so their butt buddies can join. That's just how autistic the KH community is, also known as Nomura fanboys.

You see these KH fanboys doing the same thing now with desperately defending anything in FF7R just because Nomura is behind it.
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>>379270723
BRING BACK THE FUCKING MAGES SYSTEM WHERE IS MY GODDAMN WIZARD HAT REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>379298706
>take tiny webm
>add black bars to make it even tinier
>add blur just to make sure you can't see shit
why tho
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>>379298706
Anything looks nice glittered in gold on the surface anon. Buncha blurs, cutting footage in and out and some touch ups, any guy with good experience with video editing can do it.
I mean it does look nice, but still.
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>>379270723
It would have but i got a game breaking glitch on the leviathan fight where the cutscene never triggered and the fight wouldn't progress.
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>>379298464
I don't know why it didn't show up as a new IP, but I have definitely not posted in this thread before.
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>>379298935
>are batshit fucking insane and they take their bullshit too seriously
the irony
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>>379298948
>>379298954
The guy that makes those FFXV blackbar webms makes them for Nier Automata, GT Sports, Horizon, Abzu, Uncharted 4 and other games too.

https://twitter.com/SunhiLegend
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>>379298986
sure
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>>379299084
>no u
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>>379299351
believe what you want you paranoid fuck
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>>379299271
but why
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>>379299271
That doesn't make them any better looking. If i want to look at a super aspect ratio motion blurred up video i'll go watch a movie
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>>379299271
I'm aware anon, same shit with the Webm threads getting spammed by the dude using the Horizon one.
Well if the third game gets used by some autist then maybe we can make a deranged theory on how it all links to NeoGAF or something.
This webm posted looks shit desu compared to the XV one,
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>>379299369
Predictable response from a predictable idiot
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>>379270723
You already beat me to it.
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>>379299572
>>379299610

To make in game stuff look like CG

First time I saw this webm I thought it was from a new FFXV CG thing I somehow missed until I realized it was just edited ingame footage.
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>>379270723
>Games that blew your expectations away
Had one just this week actually, in Rime. I was expecting a solid little platform-puzzler (given the early reviews were positive), and it's certainly that, but I was floored by the presentation. and oh my god that ending

Only real complaint is it's quite short, but much like Braid (with which it shares a common tone and pacing) I think that might actually be a strength in this case.
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>get multitap for PS2 in 2006
>filter on Gamespot all 4-player enabled games
>write down Tales of the Abyss among them without actually looking beyond some screenshots
>get the game
>disappointed how it was actually a single player game with a bit of multiplayer in battles only
>keep playing anyway
>becomes my one of my favorite JRPGs
Can't really get into any of the other Tales games though
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>anon makes a thread about games that pleasantly surprised you
>300+ replies of anons being triggered by his choice
Sasuga
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>>379300420
nice try, OP
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>>379300420
>Anon instead of ignoring the faggots helps derail his thread giddily
This thread needs to be nuked.
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>>379300420
Well, by xv-kun's logic it's xv-kun and one guy resting his IP 80 times
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>>379284586
I stopped arguing with that retard 3 months ago, i still cant believe he does this every week, this guy probably is one of the most saddest piece of shit on this board.
>>
Always the aussies
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>>379300567
>implying
I haven't even played XV yet, I'm too fucking poor

Here's my choice. When I picked it up out of a bargain bin I didn't even know what it was about and was expecting a generic animu game
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>>379300836
nice try, op
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>>379300420
>pleasantly surprised you
>Games that blew your expectations away
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>>379300836
At least try to read the thread then
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>>379300901
Don't be rude
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>>379300420
To be fair though it's about blowing away your expectations, which can be good or bad
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>>379301068
damn it OP. I am complementing you. NICE try......
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>>379301018
>read the thread
The first 50 posts are rampant shitposting and autism other than the XCX guy, no thanks
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>>379301270
Then don't act like you did
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>>379300836
Respectable choice.
You enjoy the sequels?
>>379299981
Guy's work seems hit and miss at times. This one looks pretty good, but then it sort of falls flat on shit which all the jaggies are noticable from the OG game.
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>>379301367
Literally three posts above mine is a continuation of the same thing. Did I upset you by not going through your arguing?
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>>379301497
VLR was a lot of fun and I preferred the puzzles, but 999 set me up to expect the twists along the way.

ZTD was alright. Carlos was the best addition possible but I wasn't fond of the other characters.
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