Is there any point not vomiting out armor? 3 Tank Destroyers

>>379260054
Play Soviets

Infantry only mods on coh1 when?

>>379260054
You will get shrecked (literally) by cheaper and more numerous PaK40 & Gren team.

>>379260125
I'm playing CoH 1 since I'm playing on a toaster and I heard 1 was "better". But yeah armor is so much stronger, I just use paratroops or engineers to capture points while my Tank Destroyers gang up on the slower tanks 1 by 1 and the APC's just wreck havoc in enemy infantry

>>379260232
Yeah that's possible though the AI doesn't seem to shift production based on what i'm building. Would snipers provide good cover for advancing armor?

Just bought CoH2 collection for like 9 bucks. What faction do I play?

>>379260295
>AI
Just do whatever, unless its hardest difficulty only retard would lose

>>379260365
Soviet Union

>>379260054
CoH felt so good. how come no other game has managed to get it right? I was hoping DoW would be like this and not just babbys first RTS

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>tfw remember playing Blitzkrieg and Eastern Front mods in co-op against 3 very hard computer enemies on a 3 GB map pack with a friend

>>379260461
>babbys first RTS
That is relegated to Halo Wars and first Battle for Middle Earth

>>379260662
>implying halo wars didn't copy DoW

>>379260759
It sure did not copy enough to be good.

>Spam tanks
>Have about 6 total units because of population cap
>Enemy has 3 anti-tank guns set up
>Takes said tanks out easily
>All the while they've been capturing all points on the map with infantry

Oberkommando, the faction I really want to get good at, kind of sucks because they only have 3 total infantry and they're all expensive as fuck, the rest are light vehicles and tanks. Which you lose so incredibly fast on offense.


>Oberkommando is also bad at defense because no defensive structures besides barbed wire.

>>379260859
good enough for a sequel no one asked for

>>379260368
>>379260125
W-what's the catch

>>379261079
>Oberkommando
Literally hard mode. Like the description says, you're playing as a desperate Germany near the end of the war. Takes a lot of pro-activeness to win anything

>>379261228
>>379260402

>>379261079
Overwatch Doctrine a best
>make goliaths that automatically camouflage in cover
>huuuuge blast radius
>insanely good at bullying blobs into bits
Fortification Doctrine is also good with the Howitzers, PaK43, heavy fortifications and sector artillery

>>379261079
>>379261283
>OKW
>hard

Probe shit with Volks, and flank with Sturmpios.
Everything you need to win is in very first building.
You can wait with teching to figure out opponents tactic and then fork to your counter.
When all plans fail, gather up your resources to summon non-doctrinal Exodia KT.

There is a reason why everybody plays OKW in tourneys over wehr.

>>379261476
People always play the hardest to play faction, because typically in an RTS that means the most payoffs when you git gud.

>>379261476
>CoH
>Tournaments
>For a game like this they have tournaments
Is it retard tournaments at your local middle school?

CoH2 is fun but it's absolutely not competitive, it's rock paper scissors much like Starcraft.

>>379261539
How are they harder to play than Wermacht or especially Soviets?

>>379261607
Slower resource gain, expensive units, everything has a very specific role instead of multitasking units.

>>379261563
>it's rock paper scissors much like Starcraft.
Guess what, SC also has tourneys.

What other RTS is more worth to play in competitions?

>>379261607
it takes more knowledge of the game to do good at. you need to understand the meta and how to counter or you will get destroyed, with no wiggle room if you pick the wrong choices

>>379261715
Wow when did they start doing this? Americans are stupid they'll try to make anything a sport. What's next, competitive Overwatch? Another fun but non-competitive game? What about Rocket League? Fucking Amerifats.

All esports are fucking retarded. But seriously rock paper scissors shouldn't have tournaments, but it does.

>Watching a really intense match
>OKW player gets a Sturmtiger
>Game immediately goes to shit as that abomination oneshots squads out of FoW, decrews AT guns and cripples tanks before a stealthed Rakaten finishes it off
That tank is such bullshit, the AVRE doesn't compare at all.

>>379261917
>Sixty
>Second
>Reload
>Time

>>379261684
After they removed ammo/fuel trading mechanic in T3, most of the cost and gain was rebalanced to normal levels.

Volks beat trading in green cover 2 Conscripts any day, not to mention their cheap upgrade removes need to even factor range.
Specialized units always beat universal ones if you focus them in one spot.
They have access to best tanks after Brit nerfs (excluding TD because those are american).

Sure, they are not as easy as USF but their only major problem is lack of any smoke discharge.

>>379261684

they get the same resources as everyone else for a few years now,they just cant build caches and instead salvage wrecks.Volksgrenadiers or Füsiliers are extremely cost-effective.You literally just have to keep em alive and when they reach max vet you cant do shit against them with other infantry.

>>379260365

Soviets and Ostheer if you are a good person,Americans for infantry spam,brits if you wanna lock down half the map with a mortar dugout and OKW when you are bad at videogames.

Who's your favourite caster and why is it Tightrope?

>>379262470
B R I T S
R
I
T
S

>>379261917
>>379261992
It also has to be reload manualy, which locks the tank in place.
And dunno if is just me, but the crew loves to bail out if they see anything bigger that a buttlefly.

>>379262850
If I remember correctly, they removed auto abandoning on hit when it reloads

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>>379260054
Why is a 4 year old game more popular than Dawn of War 3?

>>379263794
Sales and content.

A new RTS must be GODLY to survive the initial extinction event

>Coh is 11 years old

>>379264432
And it STILL gets support by Relic and the community. Go figure.

>>379264432
Dawn of War 3 was a mistake

In CoH 1 your armor gets shredded by anything the germans can shit out.
If you're not controlling the map at around 10 minutes you might as well gg out because once the panzers start rolling it's over for you unless the german fucks up

>>379260236
Try Men of War. Same tier of graphical fidelity as CoH 2, but with physics, armor angling, RPG-style inventory and muh cover system.

>>379261715
Homeworld

>>379265987
As long as it's Single Player then i can confirm MoW can beat CoH.
Especially if you liked Commandos.
MP is a different story.

>>379265919
I never understood why the Churchill IV, which uses the exact same weapon that serves as the US AT gun, couldn't deal with StuGs and Pz.IVs at all. Even most of those "historical" mods seem to completely forget that a six-pounder gun should be able to punch clean through the front of a Pz.IV H, never mind the thinner StuGs.

>tanks with health

What is this 1996?

More interesting question: why is COH 1 better then COH 2?

>>379260054
Do these games force you to go full autismo and memorise build orders?

>>379267101
Because you only played 2 at release

>>379266618
>"historical" mods
It's a code for "Naziboo centered compstomping fantasy"

Don't mind me. Just gonna shill my tuning pack for CoH2.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=938351659

>>379267101
Modding community, also because Eastern Front has better soviet faction than CoH 2.

>>379267575
A lot of them also give some crazy shit to Britain to be fair, but almost all of them forget about the Churchill.

Can't complain too much when 17-pounders instagib damn near anything and knock 1/3rd of a KT's health off through the front with APCR, Infantry Sections lose all of their weaknesses, and you get a 'delete every revealed enemy unit on the map' ability courtesy of RAF Bomber Command.

>>379267815
>literal waifu mod

>>379267815
>waifu mod in an RTS
Anime profile pics really are always massive faggots

>>379267101

Singleplayer and mods are superior,but the vanilla game is actually balanced worse and there are more abusive strategies,its still is fun tho.

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>>379267815
Mika is C U T E

>>379268069

Churchills can still take on Panzer IVs, but your best bet is skirting around them to hit them on the flanks and preferably at close range. Still best to have some Sappers with PIATs to be safe.

>>379267139

to a degree,but it aint as bad as starcraft,its more about knowing what to build depending on the situation and managing it sincethere is a unit limit.

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>>379268326
>flanking with Churchills

>>379268343
>to a degree
How many minutes of build ordering usually until I actually get to make independent decisions? How many different builds are there?

>learn how to 4gate
>there's a million more build orders for different situations, strategies and races
>gookclick

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>>379267815
>So do these ones rape civvies as well?
>born too early to explore the stars
>born too late get snu snu'd by a amazonian russian grill
just fuck my shit up

>>379268452

Well it's your only option, unless you want your rounds to be just pathetically bouncing off German armor. Then again, why use a Churchill anyway when you can just call in a Comet or a Firefly.

>>379260662
>halo wars
>bfme
the term babbys is not literal

Oh, CoH thread
>page 10

Fug, bump.

>>379267101
>why is COH 1 better then COH 2?

because they somehow made CoH2 look like shit in every way that mattered. even the UI makes me furious.

>>379260054
What's the scrub CoH2 faction?

>have really good micro
>can take on vet players early game and get map control
>always lose late game

halp what am i doingwrong

>>379273392
Oh and I bought the CoH2 collection and there's a fuck ton of single player modules, in what order do I play them?

Do people still play CoH 1?

>>379273508

Any one you like. The American one is kinda like DoW1's risk style map

>>379273519
Still active but not as big as CoH2

>>379273519

Yes, considering a bunch of official mods just got released

>>379273782
Well I'll do the Commie and Burger main campaigns then look at the standalone stuff I guess

>>379273519

for now at least, because of sale

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

i might go on for a match of stonewall

>>379273998
>official mods

What?

>>379261421
Goliaths in coh 2 are absolute dogshit. I have never been hit by one. You can hear them from miles away even when stationary.

>>379273392

Germany. Best units overall.

>>379274261
Which Germany? The eastern Wehrmacht?

>>379274095

The Japan and Eastern Front mods are officially endorsed by Relic.

>>379274386

Yes. Their infantry can outgun most probably except Riflemen, has reliable grenades and even carry med packs. Their tanks are also pretty brain dead in that they can just engage almost every tank without the need for intense microing like say t-34s.

>>379274497
Oh, I know about the Eastern Front mod but never heard about the Japan one.

>>379273392
OKW, but for some reason some people seem to have problems with it.
Also USF is really straightforward.

>>379268452
Churchill had great hard terrain mobility, meaning that during Normandy churchills attacked germans from direction that germans believed no tank could get to.

>>379275774

OKW, same with the Panzer Elite in CoH1, are just too reliant in specialist units. The Ostheer is way more simple for beginners.

>>379276707
Panzer Elite didn't use trucks and neither it did have Vet 5. Also, PE gets much less armor than OKW

>>379276087
That was mostly in North Africa and Italy where fucked up terrain was more common. IIRC in one engagement in Italy a squadron of Churchills knocked out an entire Tiger troop with no losses by going full mountain goat mode and only firing when a kill was guaranteed to maintain stealth.