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What's the definitive way to play? I've never played before, and so when I revved up an ISO I was surprised and a little bummed out to find out the game's got mistranslations and typos and stuff.

I found out about the Beceause patch, but if I remember right that only applies to the steam version of the game, which reviews say is FPS locked at like 15fps in battles. I thought I remembered seeing a pastebin saying what the ideal way to play the game was but I can't find it.

>inb4 the goofy localization is part of the charm

Not for me, unfortunately.

Anyway it's been a while since I've looked into it and was hoping some friendly anons could show the way
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>>379252550
millions of people played it with the original translation and are still playing it too this day and enjoy it, you tell me.
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>>379252796
I don't get what you're saying but thanks for the bump
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>>379252902
im saying it doesnt matter how you play it, the battles are 15fps no matter what system you play on and dont let the translation stop you.
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>>379252976
But I know someone on here's posted what I'm looking for before, I just can't remember and can't find it
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>>379253041
just fuckin play it nerd.
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>>379252550
Reunion mod on PC.
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You can replace the model's combat and overworld textures with higher res ones online. probably worth checking out
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>>379253435
Heyyyy there it is.

Thanks, I'm gonna bookmark this now. Have a desktop background
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>>379252550
Playstation.
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I can't fucking imagine wanting to mod the first playthrough of a game.
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>>379254001
I just want the dialogue to make sense. I don't wanna go nuts with difficulty mods and graphics packs and all that. But when I last saw a mod that fixed the script, I thought it said it only worked for the pc version, and then I read that the pc version was inferior to the original game.

Normally I'd agree with you, but I started playing the game and got hit by the scorpion tail, and then after that there was a really dumb typo, and I thought "Man, how has this game been praised for so long and yet not one person mentioned that the dialogue makes the game look bootlegged?"
It instantly took me out of the game when up to then I was really into it.
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>using mods
>changing the shitty graphics for slightly less shitty graphics that somehow end up looking even more shitty thanks to the original animations and 360x240 backgrounds

Personally I'd say the best way to play is the original PlayStation using an emulator with the internal res turned up slightly
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>>379254656
see >>379254434
I just care about the script and the fps in battle. I wouldn't have cared about the latter if I didn't remember reading about a fix the last time Reunion was posted here
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>>379254761

I'm playing the original PS1 version right now using an emulator and the translation is fine, you fucking underage sperg.
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>>379252550
>GRAPHICS
The best way to play: Original PS version on a flat CRT.
Second best way: Mednafen/Beetle PSX via Retroarch at standard res with or without a tasteful CRT shader. (pic related)

>TRANSLATION
Stick with the original. It reads quite natural. It's got great moments and it has a charm to it and it's a big reason why the game sticks out to so many people as an amazing RPG. People really overblow the few negative aspects. Just rename Aeris to Aerith and you're set.
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>>379256450
Meanwhile here's the Steam version.
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>>379252550

Not the PC/PS4 version that's for sure. Those Direct3D graphics are disgusting.

Emulate the PS1 version, look for a translation patch if you can. Though the original translation does have its charms, especially the... less polite characters.
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>>379256450
>>379256475
At least post a comparison with the same scene if you want to make a point. Also the original translation is notoriously bad and one of the main reasons most people are still asking questions about the story and think Advent Children "changed" personalities when they act the way they did in the original script.
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>>379256475

I hope you don't mean to imply that this looks in any way acceptable.
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>>379256706
You heard it, folks: If you like Advent Children, by God, you should avoid FF7's original English translation.

>>379256729
Yes the PC version is ugly.
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>>379256729
And here's the emulated ver. The game's got a very endearing PS1 look to it. I say don't mess with it. When the resolution is uniform, it's a beauty.
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>two people answer OP and everyone else spergs out useless replies calling op a faggot

i had same issue as op last year. just gave up waiting for a new compile. sorry op wait for a official lame remake and hope it has a gameshark cheater
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>>379256706
The original tl was pretty bad but Advent Children is utterly nonrepresentative of the game's cast.
Cloud is not a brooding emo faggot and never was in the game.
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>>379252550
Play it on the original Playstation you autistic faggot.
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>>379252550
Get the steam version, heres the comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRC-joIYUE
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>>379253692
Very cute. Always liked Medli.
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>>379254434
The scorpion tail isn't even a typo, it's just a really horrible place to put a line break.
ATTACK IT WHILE ITS TAIL IS UP
IT'LL COUNTERATTACK WITH ITS LASER
As in, if you do A, it'll do B. That's probably the only example of that in the entire game, and most of the stuff that's lost in translation (e.g. pronoun use) is impossible to translate.
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>>379257140
Why would you ever recommend the steam version? Just emulate the ps1 version, not only is it free, it looks better with internal resolution and a CRT shader. If you look on the internet there's probably even a translation for the ps1 version if you're that set on reading slightly different text. No reason not to emulate unless you have the original disk and a ps1
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>>379257086
he does turn emo when he discovers the truth about his memories.
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>>379257420
The retranslation patch for the PS1 version is buggy as shit and freezes on emulaton, as it was designed for the PC vers.
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>>379253041
why the fuck are you so afraid to think for yourself and discover things on your own without someone holding your hand? the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>379257472
He has a psychological breakdown when he realises he's been living a life and his real identity is a beta fuckboy failure, then rallies within the space of an hour and remains a determined little farmboy from then on.
AC Cloud doesn't appear at any point in the game.
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>>379256450
>Mednafen

Don't be autistic, PCSX-R PGXP does just as well.
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Anyone who played both the original and the translation have a preference?
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>>379257868
What does it matter? OP wants spoonfeeding, why would I give multiple possible emulator setups?
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>>379257086
blame kingdom hearts for getting a huge generation of weaboos into emo cloud, which was actually vincent. Im not sure what happened during the design process in kh that made them fuse cloud and vincent into one-winged devil cloud.
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>>379257420
>CRT shader

I love playing old games on my CRT monitor, but you're fucking delusional if you think those garbage shaders even remotely simulate the experience of an actual CRT.
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>>379257868

Except Mednafen[spoilerRetroarch core[/spoiler] is the least autistic way to play PS1 games, because you don't have to fuck around with settings or plugins and it's the most accurate and authentic emulator out for it.
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>>379257979
>want cloud and vincent in the game
>get told no, pick one
>shenanigans.jpg
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>>379258006
They're meant to emulate CRTs, not simulate them.
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>>379258301
>They're meant to emulate CRTs, not simulate them.
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>>379257140
Playing this game at too high a resolution doesn't make the game look better at all, it just emphasizes its flaws
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>>379258563
Look at >>379257020 and tell me that's trying to simulate what a CRT looks like. No. It's just giving the image a texture reminiscent of a CRT television. That's fitting because the games were designed with them in mind and they are indeed part of the aesthetic.

Now there are shader configurations that go too far, ones fueled only by nostalgia such as pic related, but I don't see anyone recommending them here, do you? It's up to you to find a shader that you think fits. There's a lot of presets you can painlessly glaze through. It's not complicated.
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>>379257020

The resolution and filters aren't the big problem with the PC version, the Direct3D shaders are. None of the special effects, shadows, light glows etc work properly on PC, instead they're replaced with solid shapes that look butt ugly.
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>>379258757

You might want to look up the definitions of emulate and simulate, pal.

Hint: they're synonyms
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>>379258892
ESL? Okay:
emulate: to try to equal or excel; imitate with effort to equal or surpass
simulate: to create a simulation, likeness, or model of (a situation, system, or the like)

A flight simulator simulates real-life flying. A dog-fighting game like Ace Combat emulates real-life flying.
Thin difference. Please treat words with care.
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This is what the PC/PS4 version looks like. Anyone who recommends this is an idiot.
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>>379254434
The dialog makes sense without any adjustments.
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>>379259121

Emulator screenshot for comparison. Yes, the player here is an idiot who didn't scale his window by full pixels, but that's not the point. Look at the shadow quality compared to the PC one.
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>>379259431
>shadow quality
>literally just a more pixelated circle

And they say FFVIII fans are delusional about their game
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>>379256450
>huge fuck ugly fake scanlines
Scanlines should not be visible from the couch. Scanlines on a CRT only exist for you if you stick your face right in the telly. Emulating them is pure idiocy and not at all 'tasteful'.
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>>379259759
You're actually arguing that this>>379259121 looks better?
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>>379259781
Uhh, just move your chair back? lol
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>>379259848
M8, you could see those fake scanlines from the moon. They are not 'how the game was supposed to look', they are a joke.
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>>379259759
FFVIII is pretty great...
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>>379259907
Great thing they're optional, huh?
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>>379252550
wait for the remake
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>>379259820
I'm saying that the difference is negligible, as both look like ass
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>>379259759

It's a soft shadow you ignoramus. If you don't understand how big the consequences of a lack of soft shadowing capability are for overall graphics, you have no business being anywhere near 3D graphics discussion.
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>>379260063
But the second one looks better. That was the entire point.
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>>379260134
>>379260183

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that if you have to argue about which version has better shadows when they still are not relevant to anything substantial in the game (and look like ass), you should probably rethink your life, or end it for even better results
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>>379260326
This >>379259121 looks like ass. This >>379259431 I can easily tolerate.

>lol kill urself

Grow up.
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>>379260024
Yes, that is great. What you're trying to get at with this statement, I have no idea, but I can't say that it's an inaccurate statement.
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Let's go back to talking about the script.

I think the choice to have Barret speak in AAVE is an English script invention, but I think it considerably improves the game. It really gives his speech flavor and his character color. Though he doesn't explicitly face any racism during the game, the fact that he's speaking AAVE strongly suggests that their world had a similar history of racism and segregation as America which means that racism has shaped his experiences and implies that he still faces it even if the game never directly shows it. This is the difference from the Japanese script that I think makes a difference. It gives a context toward his gutter mouth, rude attitude, and his rage against corporations. Contrast that with his radical environmental stance and his love for Cloud, Tifa, Marlene, and the crew of AVALANCHE (all of them white), I think his character has a tidy layer to it that helps explain his actions and makes his struggles relatable.
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>>379252550
>What's the definitive way to play?
>I've never played before
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>>379261453
>his love for Cloud
lewd
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>>379259098
Except the meaning of "emulate" when it comes to computers is attempting to imitate the functions of hardware. It's not trying to make it better.
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>>379261973
Not trying to make it better, is that right? That's weird I could've sworn tons of people play console games with netplay and at higher framerates and resolutions. And the ability to play with any controller and without the need for physical discs.
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>>379262592
You are confusing the purpose of an emulator in computing. It's to preserve the ability to run software on hardware that is difficult or impossible to obtain or reproduce.

Yes, you can add features to your emulator. However, the base purpose is to simulate the hardware of a platform.
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>>379263556
It was a pun. To use the word emulate in the typical definition while talking about video game emulation-- humorous.
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>>379262592
>>379263556
PC version's characters looks like they're floating. Is it a emulating or simulating floating tho?
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