Will it outsell the Wii?

>>379251467
it's projected to

>>379251467
It's already outpacing it, so yes, it can. Monster Hunter and Pokemon announcements are going to make this thing sell out no matter what, as fast as they can make them guaranteed.

No chance. Sales will rapidly drop soon, its "success" is being predicted way too early. It's an overpriced underpowered toy.

No. Wii was massively popular with women and other people who have never played a game before in their lives. It's the entire reason it was successful. If you look at the people buying Switches, it's mostly just Nintendo fans. It's not going to even hit 50 m

>has no games
>overpriced, outdated hardware
>can't find it anywhere

OK BUT WHY THO

lol, no

I don't see why it wouldn't. Wii U + 3DS managed to sell 75 million combined, and the Switch has way more appeal than either of those.

>>379251467
It won't even sell 300k desu

>>379251632
Because it's too underpowered as a home console, and too large with a shit battery life as a handheld. And the main consumer market is in the West, where outside of a few fanboys Nintendo is dead.

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>>379251467
Is the Switch's battery life really 2 and a half hours? This is literally the only thing stopping me from buying one right now. Why would they make a handheld that dies as fast as a smart phone?

>>379251797

Considering it has the same amount of battery as the OG 3DS but is 100x more powerful, it's pretty fucking good. Can your smartphone play breath of the wild? Nope.

>>379251797
The battery takes up basically half of the internals. It's as big as it can be. Things won't improve for the Switch until they reduce the die process, and even that won't be very significant. It'll probably go from 3 hour average to 3.5.

>>379251797
It has better battery life than a fucking Vita, and it plays games 30x more demanding than anything Vita has. People who complain about battery life are fucking delusional.

A good idea of how optimized Switch's battery life is would be to leave a Switch in sleep mode while running a game. I've tested this myself, and my Switch only drains 3% every 12 hours.
>>379251937
The Switch has a 4300 maH battery, nearly 4x the size of the original 3DS's battery. It has impressive optimization, but it's not packing some shitty, low amount of battery. It takes up 40% of the body for Christsake.

>>379251937
>Can your smartphone play breath of the wild?
No, but my Wii U can and the Switch dies too fast to justify using it portable so I don't see why I should buy a new console.

>>379251797
depends on the game. more intensive games give the 2 and half battery life. It's rang is 2 and a half to 5 hours. Eventually an extended battery thing will come out for it.

It probably won't. A lot of the Wii's success was it's ability to target outside the core gamer demographic because of waggling and wii fit. The Switch doesn't have the same appeal. But there's the flipside that the number of gamers have grown since 2006, so there's the possibility that there's simply more people interested in the device by sheer numbers.

It's too early to tell if the Switch will even be successful or not. Wait until the games come out and then we'll talk potential numbers

>>379252041
>A good idea of how optimized Switch's battery life is would be to leave a Switch in sleep mode while running a game. I've tested this myself, and my Switch only drains 3% every 12 hours.
By the same measure a Vita can lass for days while still being 90%+.

No, but it will break the trend of every nintendo console other than the wii doing worse than its predecessor

>>379252041
Wrong, the Vita slim has a much longer battery life than the Switch.

>>379252041
Why the fuck is it draining battery at all in sleep mode? It should be off.

>>379252268
That's where you're wrong, because the Switch is a handheld, and it absolutely will sell worse than the 3DS

>>379251797
Smartphones have like 3.5 hours of SOT just browsing the internet nigga, that's with a ~3k maH battery

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>>379252041
>30x more demanding
>3% every 12 hours
>4300 maH battery
>4x the size
>40% of the body
what else can the switch do, mister?

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>>379252245
You want to prove that to me hoss?
>>379252306
Because it wakes up in 3 seconds and you can immediately jump back into wherever you left off in your game. I'm not talking about idle sleep with no games running, I'm talking about being in the middle of a game, pausing, and going into sleep mode.

Probably not, but it will probably still be one of the best selling Nintendo consoles ever because they're combining both their console and handheld audience.

>>379252580
There's no way in fuck you can get a modern game running for 5 hours on the Switch. Maybe some iphone tier garbage like snipperclips

>>379252679
Honestly, it lasts pretty long playing BoTW. It never felt short to me.
You don't even own one. I do. Trust me.

>>379252775
I own one you gigantic faggot. You cannot get much more than 3 hours playing BotW no matter what you do.

>>379252679
The Switch is more powerful and efficient than the Vita, and has a larger battery too. Besides that, the Switch, in portable mode, is still about 70% the power of a Wii U. Your arbitrary mental definition of what a "modern game" is also doesn't really prove your point either.

>>379252830
3.5 hours here on lowest brightness. That's plenty of time for a properly optimized AAA quality title.

Look, if you want to argue the Switch is less powerful than current consoles and PC, go right ahead. But you're a fool if you honestly believe it isn't the best and greatest handheld device ever created, and it needs to be acknowledged that the Switch is a handheld powerful enough to run properly optimized, minimally downgraded AAA titles.

>>379252898
I don't know what else to call it because we've outgrown the usefulness of generations. I'd say 7th generation-tier game but that might offend one of you. The battery draining potential of a game basically boils down to how much it's using the GPU. A 2D trash game like Snipperclips isn't using the GPU at all. MK8 and BotW likely come close to full utilization. Those games don't go much over 3 hours even if you turn brightness all the way down and all other features off.

5 hours and 12 minutes is complete bullshit. If that's what you got idling on the system menu then I'd believe it.

>>379251467
It's not impossible. The easiest way would be if it sold for longer than the Wii. Nothing sold as fast as the Wii at its peak, but systems have outsold it by having longer lifespans.

>>379253018
All I'm saying is 5 hours and 12 minutes is bullshit, and now you're changing the subject.

>>379253089
You didn't say that in your previous post, you said you can't get more than 3 hours playing Zelda.

If you want to see the idle tests, they're here in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Rqaf9lMrg

If the Switch is a handheld, how come the games have console prices?

>>379253302
I said you can't get much more. If you want to play at minimum brightness to get a whopping extra 30 minutes, then be my guest

>>379251467
Probably not, Wii was popular with people who weren't into games at all.

I do however think it'll sell just as much if not more than the DS did.

>>379253302
So it was a system menu idle. Big fucking deal. It's *incredibly* deceptive to post that image as if anyone will ever get that playing an actual game.

>>379251467
No, it doesn't really appeal to normies that already have tablets.

>>379253302
who cares about idle tests dude.

>>379251632
>Wii u plus 3ds managed to sell 75 million combined

3ds was the most appealing handheld on the market and didn't get within swinging distance of the wii.

Wii only did what it did because of appeal outside of regular gaming consumers. Switch does not have that.

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>>379251467

If the games show up.

don't get me wrong, I have one, and it's a Mario Kart / Zelda machine atm. I'll get Mario Odyssey and be fine, but most people are going to need more than that.

They need to get their ass in gear on VC and start porting more Wii U shit to fill in the gaps between big releases.

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>>379251573
>can't find it anywhere
I think, stock problem is only for US cuz I could walk into almost any retailer here and pick up one up today

>>379253562
>They need to get their ass in gear on VC
I don't think VC makes an iota of difference in selling consoles

And the last thing Switch needs is more Wii U ports. It needs new games, not ones that people skipped last generation. If you already skipped it, what's to keep you from skipping it again?

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>>379253793

My point is to port between actual Switch releases. They 'skipped' the Wii U games because no one bought a Wii U. It was the argument that was made for porting MK8 over in the first place.

I could do without the ports, but while we're waiting on who knows? Why not port a few games that were missed.

>>379253715
knowing NOA as a former retailer, I wouldn't be shocked if they are shorting suppliers like they did with the wii and then started to do with us with the wii u before they realized no one gave a shit.

They'd CONSTANTLY pull this shit with us where they'd send us 20% of the units we were supposed to get, or less, while also feeding us bullshit shipping timeframes.

They like doing this.

>>379251467
wait.... you are telling me it hasn't?

>>379253715
>stock problem is only for US
Nah, it's impossible to find in Japan, and difficult to find in much of Europe. But Europe varies based on country.

>>379251467
HA, not at the rate Nintendo is stocking it in stores it won't

>>379256614
>not at the rate Nintendo is stocking it in stores it won't
Technically, they're stocking it at a higher rate than they did the Wii. Hopefully they can increase production faster than they did back then.

>>379257306
t. nintendo shill

>>379257382
But it's true.

>>379252041
>It has better battery life than a fucking Vita
Pretty sure 6 hours is better than 2.5 hours, toddler.

>>379255076
Nah

>>379253562
>start porting more Wii U shit
"no"

>>379257980
Yah

>>379258040
Nah

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>>379258072

It's failing horribly. Literally a bigger blunder than the pii u. Probably won't even hit 5 million sold this entire year lol. I'd bet a bag of crow dicks on it

>>379258116
damn, you defeated me
your mom will get cancer tonight though

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>>379258203
DAMN YOU SHELDON

>>379251467
Less than the Wii, more than the Wii U

It's hard to predict where it will fit in between the Wii U and the 3DS because of its hybrid nature. It has the price of a home console with the portability of a handheld, I'm not too sure if it will beat the 3DS in sales

>>379251797

Honestly, is someone gonna play 3hrs of games in portable mode outside of your home? Plus there's always cheap portable chargers.

>>379251547
This

It's like people didn't learn anything from the wiiu

Wii? Nah. Wii U? Oh hell yes. I couldn't justify a Wii U but I bought the switch as soon as I could. Just playing the waiting game for well.. games..

>>379252679
turn off wifi and you can play BotW for 5h

>>379258512
Pretty much this. I think it'll be close to the 3DS, maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less.

The fact that the entire Nintendo library will be on the Switch as soon as they declare the 3DS dead will help a lot.

>>379259690
But first they need units in stores

>>379255076

I imported mine from Japan because it was so much easier to find in stock online.

USA has a massive population, and most of the units are going to big cities. In Japan, everyone pretty much travels to the same place to find an item or order online. Because of this, a lot of retailers will sell an item online instead of pushing it into a store like they do in the states.

>>379251467
Easily. Nintendo has Japan in their pocket and are gonna get a lot of games because of it. Sony shouldn't have given up on Japan, it'll cost them long-term.

>>379260161
Sony has given up on japan?

>>379260298
Over the years they've focused completely on the West, the Vita showed how little they care about Japan. Japanese developers are going to develop for the Switch because not only does it cater to the Japanese market but the entire world because their portables have that kind of reach.

>>379260373
but the Vitas main source of games are small Japanese developers. I'd say Sony has given up on the Vita in general.

>>379259198
You really don't seem to grasp that being able to take it anywhere is the game changer. The Wii U was halfbaked conceptually, the Switch has a very clear purpose; play console games whereever, whenever, however you want.

>>379260443
Small developers are still on the 3DS. The Vita has shovelware developers. Developers that make games that turn a profit at 5000 copies sold. Not because it's just that cheap to make Vita games, but because there's nothing else to compete with them. On the 3DS nobody would give those games a second glance.

>>379251467
I think it may. MAYBE

Pretty much the entirety of /v/ was positive it wouldn't outsell the Wii U, so there you go.

>>379260974
Conceptually the Switch is sound, but it ended in just a bad design.

>>379251797
I like how every answer to this guy's question avoided a direct answer and immediately went around to making comparisons to other stuff or rationalizing it. Rather than just manning up and admitting the battery fucking sucks.

Great job drones, you should be paid for this shit.

>>379260974
>the Switch has a very clear purpose; play console games whereever, whenever, however you want.
That's odd because it's clearly not doing that with its tegra.

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>>379252580
>tfw GBC and GBA lasted forever
>tfw we will never have such great portable consoles EVER again

>>379251797
>Why would they make a handheld that dies as fast as a smart phone?
Because that's basically what it is. The reason Nintendo managed to get it out so fast is because it's just a rebrand of the existing (but unreleased) Nvidia Shield 2.

>>379251467
depends if the casuals will consider it a powerful handheld or a under-powered home console.

>>379253018
>you're a fool if you honestly believe it isn't the best and greatest handheld device ever created
That would be any modern day smartphone, but if you're referring to a GAMING device, then the Game Boy Color, the Game Boy Advance, and the Game Boy Advance SP are the greatest:

>GBC
It was a true groundbreaking device: portable, with color screen, great games, everlasting batteries
>GBA
Basically the GBC, with improved screen, improved ergonomics, and even greater games

>GBA SP
It traded ergonomics and battery life for increased portability and screen lighting. Design wise it's simply the best.

>>379251467
Fuck no.

It won't outsell the Game Cube. To sell numbers like the Wii and PS2, you have to appeal to normies. And despite marketing the Switch at normies, I can't recall seeing any of them running out to buy one. Have you seen any dude bros or soccer mom's walking around with a Switch?.....

>>379251547
The Wii was also an overpriced underpowered toy.

>>379251547
>underpowered
Kek

>>379266738
But the Wiimotes were something new though, the Wii caught on with moms, dads and grannys. The switch will never sell that much. It just wont happen, give it a year and its already collecting dust on the store shelf for half the price.

>>379266807
>can't emulate GC games
>not underpowered

Kek

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Will it outsell the 3DS?

>>379266738
It was a good toy tho. It had great party value, it catered to the casual audience that was untapped at that time, it was friendly and fun. Sure enough it was a wimpy little console relying on the wiimote gimmick, but it worked, and it worked well.

The Switch simply isn't that kind of good of a gimmick to stand on its own as a console. The Wii sold on its concept, the Switch is selling on the games, pretty much as the PS4 is doing.

Nintendo set itself a very high bar, and as long as they stop releasing high hyped, high value, high interst games, the Switch will die.

>>379267084
>that pic
Well, I'll agree on that the switch will do better than the Wii u.

>>379267652
>like it was a hard goal to beat

>>379251467
No way
It doesnt have something like Wii Fit which made millions of women buy the Wii

>>379269106
Yeah bud, lets aim to outsell the Dreamcast this time

>>379251467
No.

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>>379251547
>thinking the mass market cares about tech jargon
only a small niche minority of elitist "gamers" care about teraflops and graphics cards.
Most well adjusted people just want to play some fun games and be able to share those experiences with friends.

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>>379251467
Speaking of which, how long did it take for the Wii to get the attention of casuals?

>>379251467
Property not, if only because they will retire it for the next system before it can sell as much as the Wii.