>27.5 fps

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Is Bloodborne kino or ludo?

Here's why I believe it has both elements despite being more akin to more ludoscrophic works (ludo). First we must differentiate the two as well as drawing comparisons between them to a more recognisable standard (flick).

Flick - Something that doesn't require much thought. It's easily deciphered, consumed and processed.

Kino - Something that has many objectively thought provoking qualities as well as shrouds of abstract filler layered amongst it all. Think, the Mona Lisa.

Ludo - Something that has no objectively superior qualities yet it still resonates with the deepest confines of our soul. You can almost smell and taste the reciprocation of artistry seeping from the inner workings of the title. Think, Rembrandt – Self-Portrait with Two Circles

Bloodborne's kino details come moreso from the layering of each shots. The religious imagery as well as the thought provoking color work. The ludosphere comes from how it is all intertwined.

Everything from the Cleric beasts howls to the shrieks and moans of the locals "Away, Away!". It all invokes feelings so profound that many seem to make the amateurish mistake of thinking it's more kino when the reality is that it's more ludo.

The doll for instance, is a clear example of ludo. While clear, it's still not objective (as that goes against the very definition of ludo). It just is. The way the doll speaks, the voice, the tone, the chocolatey sound of it all. Even the wording of "The doll" makes the viewer sub consciously think of life altering questions, "Why are we here?".

Pure ludoscropy, it's happening before our eyes yet many of us don't really notice it

>>379241461
if you're lucky and not playing multiplayer, 27.5 is high even. NEVER EVER indeed

lower fps = better game feel

>>379241461
Anything over 30 fps is too video gamey.

Does it still run like shit? On launch I had 2 minute long load times and 23 fps in the first area. Felt really kino

>>379241537
Havent seen this one yet

>>379241801
They patched the loading times.

It DOES run at 30FPS but that means fuck all when the real problem is bad frame pacing.

https://youtu.be/BLFatxFg0nM?t=56s

>>379241801
loading times? fixed

fps? Ain't nothing fixing that

>>379241461

0 fps for you PCbro.

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>>379242714
>deflection every time there's criticisms
this is why I post these threads

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it runs at 30 fps 98% of the time unless you have like 2 cooperators. the problem is that it goes over that and makes it seem jittery at times. It rarely happens so it's not that big of a deal IMO.

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>>379241461
>PC
>0fps

>>379243065
The hell was the co-op guy doing

>>379241461
Actually it's 30 OP. Before shitposting at least check your source.

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>>379243313
sometimes people get confused!

>>379242839
>stating fact
>deflection

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>>379243481
at the loading screen

>>379243065
is that Old Hunters stuff?

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>>379243564
>bringing up "facts" completely unrelated to the criticisms

>"haha, you have AIDS!"
>"a-a-at least I had sex!"

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>>379243698
will BB fags ever stop being BTFO?

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>>379243614
yeah. it pretty much doubles the weapons and spells you get in the game. Best bosses in the series too IMO.

>>379241461
NEVER
EVER

>>379243830
never ever be over 28fps? You're right, sonybro

>>379243809
>Best bosses in the series too IMO

Besides some DS3 bosses I'm pretty sure this goes without saying.

>>379243961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YmLoDtnzFs

>>379243809
How easy is it to pvp in BB pre-old hunters? Can you invade most areas like in DaS3?

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>>379241461
>one of the few games worth suffering through 30fps for

What's From showing at E3 this year?

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>>379244105
that's the only downside of BB IMO. You can only invade a lone hunter in a few areas that have bell maidens in them. If a hunter summons a helper then a bell maiden spawns in that area and you can invade them. That's one of the things I hated about DaS3. Every time you invaded someone he had an army with him.

This game is over 2 years old now. Is this a new record for asspain?

>>379244251
So to pvp I should look up zones that have Bell-Maidens then invade there? Sounds fun.

>>379243572
>>379243698
>>379243795
You have autism by any chance?

>>379243698
>framerate
>not related to OP post
>>379244078
PCock BTFO

>>379244078
>What is frame pacing
stutters and shakes more than Ali right before he died

>>379244665
On PC yes. Not on PS4 however.

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>>379244246
>>379244805

>>379244246
Certainly not PC game hahaha

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>mfw PC fags will never EVER get Bloodborne

>>379245148
probably 90% of PCfags own a PS4 now honestly, no surprise considering a PC costs $2000+ and a PS4 is only a couple hundred bucks.

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>>379245305
>a PC costs $2000+

>>379245395
if you wan't something good, just about.
I spent almost $200 on RAM just last week.

>>379245305
>probably 90% of PCfags own a PS4

never EVER

I played through bb last summer and when i borrowed ps4 and the game i expected garbage fps based on threads here but i did not get 1 moment in the entire game where i could notice some drops and issues. So i dont know why the shilling, feels really low energy.

>>379245472
I'm using mine as a coaster right now.
I hope to god they announce BB2 as an exclusive this year so I can feel like I got more for my money.

>>379245547
>petiton cucks
>having PS4

>>379245526
You just have low standards.

t. Someone who just finished the game a few days ago.

>>379245547
This. I hope BB2 will be PC exclusive this time. I feel really bad for that 2000$ wasted on indie games and petitons. I want to justify it to other anons somehow.

>>379245526
you get slowdown (not just framedrops, actual slow motion because the fps is so low compared to the target) in the first area in the game at the bridge with the first two werewolves when they're both on screen at once.
It does this later during the game too, the college is another bad one with all the slug students in that one room, but you should have encountered the wolves on the bridge at least if you've played the game at all.
>>379245681
I fell for the idort meme.
BB is a masterpiece but other than that I haven't played anything on it really except a few demos.
I should really try P5 or Yakuza, I heard those are good.

>>379241461
Browsing /v/ while I wait for my frenzy meter to go down

>>379245472
I have

>GE72VR 7RF Apache Pro MSI for 2000$
>PS2
>Xbox 360
>PS4 That I only bought for BB

I don't really understand why or how could there be a war between console owners and PC owners, PC just straight up shitstomps consoles no questions asked no competition. It's just that bloodborne was so good that it actually gave some blasted consolers a fighting chance. I mean isn't the fact that you play this game at 30FPS on console embarrassing on its own?

>>379245682
If you mean i need to wish for 60 to have high standards then sure, but i played through ds1 on 40 or so with plenty of dips below 30 on pc since i have garbage pc that died a week ago actually and i never felt the need for higher fps. I would if it kept killing me in any point of the game.

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>>379245472
980ti 300$ i5 6500 200$ 8GB ram around 50 bucks HDD 50 bucks cheap mobo 50 bucks EVGA 600B PSU 50 bucks.
>More power than the scorpio will ever dream of but you have to spend 2000 for a good PC
Autistic people shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.

>>379245526
It's largely a meme, theres a handful of places where you'll get consistent drops like the smokey area at the beginning of Old Yharnam and if you look at bosses bloody death explosions, but its such a non issue. Even going from 60fps SotFS to Bloodborne is fine, it takes like 30minutes for your eyes to adjust.

>>379245905
BB's issue isn't really the framerate it's the frame pacing.
Basically even on a PS4 pro you may get "solid 30fps" because you are indeed getting 30 frames every second but they're not evenly paced out over that second.
So it'll show a frame for double the time and then quickly rush through the next one).
This is often perceived as "hitching" or "microstutter" and it's far more annoying that just low framerates.

>>379245826
You realize you justyfing your shitty system in console game thread? Why can't you simply understand that people don't want your shitty games and your oversized turd? Why every PC autist have so much inferiority complex? Fuck off already.

>>379245780
You can either have your game have slowdowns or stutter, so i dont know about that and i notice every frame drop since i played competitive crap for so many years. I have seen the difference since original release to last patch, its quite something, some gent linked the vid up there, its quite a difference, keeps 30 99% of the time. Ocasional dips to 29 is laughably irrelevant.

>>379245981
>Autistic people shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.

Exactly. So when PC cucks will leave /v/?

>>379246098
again the issue isn't so much the framerate it's the pacing.
Digital Foundry's video explains this in their PS4pro video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLFatxFg0nM&feature=youtu.be&t=56s

>>379246159
>What are you browsing 4chan with

>>379246078
>inferiority complex
>the consolefags started the war when bb came out

Sorry bud, I don't have any considering I actually have consoles. I just don't see how can there be a fight between the two when the disparity is gigantic

>>379246063
True, i probably should have addressed the smoke parts, literally only part where you can notice actual dips to this day and its a non issue as i never died due to that, its like 1-2 sec deal while you pass by. Also i never played sotfs, only original on pc. I had no trouble with demon's souls either, and that game has quite a bit of dips all over, still love it to death and feel no need to patch anything, remaster would be nice tho.

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>Bloodborne thread
>suddenly PC marketing

Is there more insecure fanbase and biggest losers than PC tards?

>>379241461
>>379241704
not gonna lie but when the fps dips a bit it looks cinematic af

dont notice it otherwise

>>379244251
>keep the bell system
>have bell maiden spawn automatically in each area
>make it a random, sometimes hidden spot each time
>don't like invasions make finding her a top priority
>maybe one or two harder areas with two bell maidens just for fun

There FROM I fixed BB2 for ya.

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>>379246210
>baaaw we are victims

If you consider getting completely BTFO you are

You started it, they finished.

>>379246070
You are 100% right, thats why i noted the fps doesnt have the dipping problems. The only problem which was honestly non issue for me while playing is frame pacing so if someone wishes to trash the game at least say something thats true.

>>379246181
Just said that my self, we have all seen the videos my friend and i agreed. See here >>379246451

>>379246402
It's funny actually seeing people like you, I'm not even participating are doing jack in the war, but when I see console owners trying to sling shit at PC I can't help but imagine a little peasant stabbing the feet of a giant with a pitchfork, I mean, I can't take you seriously or argue with you because there's no competition. Your only, ONLY argument is "we have bb you don't".

>>379246451
It does have dips on PS4 standard/slim though which is how I played it.
As I said, even in the first area of the game you get slowdown.

I think complaining about 30fps is stupid if it's constant.
I don't even mind dips when it's occasional, whatever.

But constant hitching is awful.
I had a similar thing on PC when my screen dimming program introduced mcirostutter into games and it was awful until I figured out the cause.
Even though I was getting constant 60 according to my counter the hitching made it far less smooth and enjoyable.

>>379246596
>I'm not even participating

But you just doing this now. BB literally rip new hole in your ass, you still cannot recover so create pathethic threads like this and cry when people laugh at you. Seriously if your PC games are so cool why don't you fuck off and play them?

>>379246740
>BB rip a new hole in your ass

Why so mad?

Also I already said earlier I have consoles and a PC and bloodborne, do you want me to assblast you with a timestamp?

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>>379241537
there's just something off with the game in general

>>379246801
>Why so mad?

I don't know why you are mad. Maybe you have autism, it's inferiority complex, lack of games on PC, shit hardware?

>>379246740
>hhhhhhhhhhngngfnfngnfg KILL YOURSELF PCKEKS BLOODBORNE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCK YOUOOOOOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *Breaks keyboard of PC he's using*

>ps4fags btfo till the end of time

>>379246946
>rip a new asshole
>inferiority complex
>AUTISM HURRDURR
>FUCK OFF REEEE
>you're mad btw

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>>379246946
take your fucking xanax dude

I heard alot of shit about the framerate of bloodborne but I didn't really know how bad it was till I tried playing it. Shits sub-30 fps for sure. I've been spoiled playing all the dark souls on pc but I already bought BB and I'm genuinely interested in the game. Shits hard to push through because its blurry as fuck thanks to CA and fps

When will ps4fags stop taking this bait
It's hilarious how defensive they are about their 2 year old game

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>>379246951
>>379246951
>>379247012

>AAAAAAAARGH WHY DOOOOOOOOON'T WEEEEE GOT BLOOOODBORNE! FROM WAS SUPPOSED TO CARE ABOUT US! WHY THEY TREAT US LIKE SHIT? WHY PETITION DIDN'T WORK!

PS4 Pro with the overclock gets a full 30 FPS :^)

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>>379247151
>laughing at PC cucks
>bad

Why?

>>379241461
rolling for the number of fps the sequel will be capable of

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>>379247263
>>379247163
>we never get bloodborne why
>petitioning when I can just buy your shitty console to play a good game (albeit on shitty FPS)


Stop crying poorfag and save for a few months and get yourself a real gaming platform.

>>379247678
>Nier
>Nioh
>Tekken 7
>RE7

Why are PS4 unironically delusional?

>>379247691
jesus dude, clean your consoles

>>379247979
not surpirsed they get dirty since I haven't touched some of them in years. The only console that I still play with regularly is the PS2 since it had really good games. The rest are pointless essentially since most of their games I can already play on PC with much better visuals and FPS and overall much better platforming.

>>379247691
>PC
>real gaming platform

Please stop shilling your dead system and stop being mad because someone gets better games than you. It's childish.

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>>379248150
>I have to justify my shitty system to you because I'm insecure twat

Sonybro

>>379248196
>game is 2 years old
>still chestbeating violently about it

Nothing personal, kido. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ4oz8Y1Z8Q

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>2 years
>they still cannot recover from Bloodborne

>>379241461
>not on pc

>>379248334
>still screaming about insecurity

I already assblasted you, you dumb ape. I HAVE your consoles, stop dwelling on the same argument forever.

Sheesh, it reminds me abit of how PS4 fags circlejerk about bloodborne...

>>379248395
>>still chestbeating violently about it

? Thread was created by violent PCbro, so why playing victim now?. It's not my fault you are so laughable asshurt over it.
>posting shitty multiplat

Holy shit you got me, I'm selling my PS4 and getting newest rig, and join you with justyfing my purchase and convince everyone how I never cared about Bloodborne after all.

>>379248481
>I already assblasted you by showing you my inferiority complex

Indeed my ass is blasting with laughter.

>>379241537
Honestly a great post, but some will call this edgy and deep for no reason and shit.

>>379248680
>>379248612
>circlejerking tactic

Nah I'm out, keep screeching about your 2 year old game, poorfags.

>>379248768
>I'm out

Yeah, go back to bed. School tomorrow

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>>379248882
tfw rich neet with nothing to do but travel

>>379246292
>PC marketing
The fuck? You know PC isn't owned by a single company right? If anything you sonycocks are the marketers

>>379247263
>laughing
All I see is butthurt

>>379249407
all I see is

>I have BB I have consoles I have PC and PC is better
>WE HAVE BB AND YOU DONT
>I have BB
>NO YOU DONT WE HAVE BB AND YOU DONT GET REKT PCFAG

>>379245148
Damn right I won't

I'd say "call me when the playable framerate remaster comes out on PS5" but actually Dark Souls was pretty mediocre so I probably still wouldn't bother

>>379245681
This is just sad. Like a nigger on a bicycle telling a guy in a Ferrari that he'll never have a bike.

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>consoles finally get one good game in over 10 years that isnt multiplat
>they milk their "victory" for years to come
you can't make this shit up

>>379247263
>n-n-nobody who dislikes the game i like could possibly have played it!
imagine being this much of a sperg

>>379246292
>That image
>Accusing PC tards of being insecure

Is there a fanbase with less self-awareness than Sony jabronis?

>>379249865
even the xbox fanbase collectively has more self-awareness despite being so few in number. sad!

>>379249619
>Dark Souls was pretty mediocre
Name 10 better games in the last 6 years

>>379250339
Zelda BOTW
Bayonetta 2
Nier Automata
Hollow Knight
Terraria
Risk of Rain
The Witcher 3
Nuclear Throne
Divinity: OS
GTA V
etc.

>>379251174
Oh yeah...

Fuck, I forgot about all of those. I guess you BTFO me. You win.

>>379251290
You know we can see that the IP count didn't go up, right retard?

>>379251361
The count wouldn't have gone up even if the right guy replied, dumb shit. He posted at least once already.

>>379251419
Oh yeah, huh

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>>379241461
>tfw you're the only one to have a PS4 that doesn't drop Bloodborne's frames like a sack of bricks
Feels good to take care of my possessions.

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>>379245826
Nah. PC is shit m8

>>379251174
You have to be shitting me

>>379251174
lolno

>>379241537
Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne are kino.
Dark Souls 2 is ludo.
Dark Souls 3 is shit.

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>>379251478
>980

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>>379251478
to think that someone used their time to make that picture and it's still incorrect in almost every aspect
I feel bad for the parents of that specific individual

>>379251731
>I-image is wrong!
>Not going to say how its wrong though!

Pathetic

>>379243065
wew the mlgs in bb looks beautiful

>>379251478
>>379251731
Lmao I was gonna post that image ironically earlier in the thread but I'm in a game right now and uploading fucks up my ping

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>>379252021
>sonybro too poor to buy proper internet
HAHAHAHAHA

>>379251731
It's a trollpicture, probably made by some pcfag for shit and giggles. But consolecucks are dumb enought to take it seriously wich is why it's funny.

>>379252198
I said I was gonna post it ironically, try to read a little more carefully next time, anime poster

And I live in the boonies, there isn't any better internet out here. Small price to pay for clean air and quiet