who was in the wrong here?

>>379228258
all of them are shit consoles

>>379228258
You for thinking any of those consoles could render 3D graphics at 60fps.

OP, for posting an image that misrepresents the PS1 and saturns graphical capabilities to make the n64 look better.

>>379228258
>all fucking misalligned
REEEEEE

can we get saturn emulation working properly yet

>>379228258
>saturn isn't even triangles
this is perfect

>>379228423
Bloody Roar 2 ran at a full 60FPS on PS1

>>379228258
Saturn for tacking on 3D as an afterthought gimmick instead of making it a true 3D console from the start.

>>379228575
proof that sonyfags can't tell the difference between 60fps and 30fps right there

>>379228423
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6G-gYZtlwg

>>379228423
FZero X runs at 60 fps but they had to make it look like complete shit to manage it.

>>379229285
Is this on the Switch too or do we have to wait for til 2018?

>>379229207
Is this satire, or are you really this fucking stupid?

>>379228575
but the n64 on looks the worst?

>>379228423
Gran Turismo could hit 60FPS under it's 'Hi-Fi Mode'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tmb7sz8c6Y
Ridge Racer Hi-spec Demo was 60FPS US/50FPS PAL
(I sadly can not find US footage, everyone uses PAL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6HQHii-Bi4
F-Zero can hit 60 FPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm-kSla92SY
There's a few other's I'm forgetting but it was mostly racing games yes.

>>379228258
which company doesn't make consoles anymore?

>>379228258

Why is Saturn not 20fps? Why is PS1 jittering out of place instead of just the textures themselves jittering?

Nintendo cause their fanbase are babbies and they went downhill

Sega for life nigga

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>>379228423
On the n64 there's Smash Bros, F-Zero X, Mortal Kombat 4 (except for fatalities where it had framedrops), and other ones that had uncapped framerate so it can get to 60fps at random (Rayman 2, Star Wars Racer, etc..).

5th gen console wars still somehow manage to be the most interesting console war.

But 4th gen console wars is still most comfy.

Saturn looks like a fucking bowling alley

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>>379230483
Because the Saturn was the most powerful 2D console at the time
>>379230529
Ayy
https://youtu.be/f_OchOV_WDg

>>379228652

Newfags can't triforce

At least psone can draw perfect triangles textures, don't let it see a square.

>>379231045
whatup fellow sega fanboy, aren't we the superior race of /v/? All the nintendo fuckbois and sony N iggers wish they were they get gud like us.

>>379230741
Smash had frame drops in 4 player

>>379231372
Haha, hello fellow segalad. Would you fancy having a go at it? I have my sonic fursuit and adult diapers at the ready.

>>379228379

>best or second best gen of all time

>shit consoles

>>379232340
Are you retarded? Look at the poly count and textures compared to even the 360, their litterally fucking garbage.

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Reminder that platform war autists have been stuck in a timeloop for over 20 years.

>>379232438
>Look at the poly count and textures compared to even the 360
I mean they predate the 360 by 10 years. No shit the tech is worse.

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>geometry dont matter

>>379232591
lol no?????

>>379228258
This is bullshit, The PS and Saturn didn't have Zelda.

>>379228258
>video has no bias and shits on all 3
>people still get buttmad

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>ps1 graphics

>>379232438

Nice. Referring to of of the worst consoles ever in your defense.

PS1 > Saturn > N64

>>379228258

Sega for underestimating the impact that 3D graphics would have on gaming, and Nintendo for sticking to a then inferior physical format. The playstation was brilliant, an inexpensive 3D capable console with simple hardware that was easy to code on and a cd format right when cd's were becoming the mainstream format of choice for fucking everything.

The N64 was more powerful but it didn't amount to much.

>>379228258

sega for having an awful as fuck looking Logo compared to sony & nintendo who's logos of that gen are still marketable today.

>>379228423
hmm...

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?26920-Games-with-3D-graphics-running-at-60-fps-5th-Generation-Consoles

>>379232991
>it didnt amount to much
>popularized FPS genre worldwide
>Best third party games bar none
>fucking RARE golden years

nothing in that generation came even CLOSE to what the 64 managed to do, and i fucking love the PS1 to death

>inb4 muh MGS

>>379233208
>popularized FPS genre worldwide
I mean doom did that way before goldeneye.
Unless you mean popularized splitscreen FPS, which is true.

>>379233208

I was talking about technical differences, the fact that nintendo wasn't actively shitting all over their 3rd party developers was a bonus towards making the N64 memorable.

>>379232941
This anon is right. Nintendo drones will say otherwise

Why does the N64 one not a 60fps?

>>379233261
forgot to say on consoles to that statement, completely my bad.
to this day FPS's on PC > Consoles.

>>379232991
>Sega for underestimating the impact that 3D graphics would have on gaming
are you high?

>>379233208
>popularized FPS genre worldwide
What is doom?

Also RARE never made anything amazing just mediocre games.

>>379228258
is it possible to make a triangle with 4 sided shapes?

>>379233414
The Saturn was made purely to be a 2D powerhouse, and would have obliterated competition if 3D had not taken over and forced them to tack in 3D support.

>>379233508
see>>379233378
also
>Implying 90's RARE games are mediocre.
let me guess, you were born in 1998?

>>379233612
lool this is literally what segatards believe lOOOOOl

>>379228423
Ever played Granstream Saga?

>>379233720


Not him, but that's what I read in actual books of that happening.

>>379232780
Am I the only one who though that wobble was intended to simulate breathing and general unease while standing in many games?

>>379233720
was 3d on console even ready for that gen though? Mario 64 is a bit of an excuse but 3d that gen is ass.

>>379232780
Pre-rendered background.

>>379233971

No I honestly thought the animations were made to "breathe" slightly too.

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>>379228379
what the fuck

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>>379232780

There's a subtle breathing animation, but because of PS1's 3D limitations, there's additional wobbling of textures/models and jittering.

PGXP is a feature that gets rid of that, or at least strongly reduces it.

>>379233971
It certainly gave that effect in some games, helped mask the shitty animations of the time in a way

>>379232698
>the xbox 360 came out before he was born

either kill yourself, leave, or kill yourself

>>379228258

This webm isn't really a good comparison between the three, because N64's strongest suit was it's superior geometry, which this does not convey in any way.

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I'm a big fan of the low-poly aesthetic, it's a shame that the baggage that comes with it are awful draw distances and frame rates.

>>379228258
>3 great consoles with great libraries
>a plethora of different games
>all of them now accessible through emulation
PS1 was slightly better than N64, personally, and I haven't delved deep enough into Saturn's library to pass a complete judgement, but you have to be a complete retard to start shit about these. The whole gen was solid gold.

>>379233942

Guardian Heroes and Dragonforce are super, super boring. Nights is okay but nothing special. 3/4 of that list just isn't that good. Typically slow jrpgs, bad platformers, and multi-platform games. Like a lot of "must play" lists for weaker systems, it includes a lot of padding.

The Saturn's only saving grace was a few good exclusives, and a great library of arcade ports. It is THE system for Sega arcade games, stg.

>>379234528
I wish more wanna-be retro games used a low-poly style instead of the typical indie pixelshit, but that would take effort

>>379234528
>I'm a big fan of the low-poly aesthetic, it's a shame that the baggage that comes with it are awful draw distances and frame rates.

Which is why it should be revived. I'd love to see a modern game with 60fps, great draw distances, but had characters that looked like MM Legends or Virtua Fighter 2. Animated texture faces is really cool too.

>>379234618
PS1 wins out in volume of games thanks to the lowered bar of entry plus discs.

If Nintendo hadn't gone full retard and used cartridges and loosened their restrictions, we would've had a very different generation. It could've been very interesting to see play out.

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>>379234747
I was going to say that I'd like to see more stuff like Vagrant Story, but then I realised that it's just because the models and textures follow the concept art extremely closely, rather than the low-poly models being part of its charm.

I guess Xenoblade Chronicles is sort of close?

>>379229639
Not that anon, but you're pretty fucking ignorant. The Saturn is a 2D beast, but they slapped together two 2D processors at the last minute because they realized that they fucked up and that 3D was the way of the future.

>>379235006

FF12 models are what Vagrant Story is going for. Similar art styles and character designs.

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>>379235147
When I saw the trailer for Octopath Traveller I was incredibly disappointed that we were getting a bizarre over-bloomed mix of 3D and 16-bit sprites instead of another game that matched the concept art in full 3D.

>>379235137
nah your retarded segay is to stupid and just made a all round shittey concole stop trieing too defend them shillyboy

>>379234618
>all of them now accessible through emulation
Yeah, maybe for PS1. N64 but still needs work, while Saturn needs ALOT OF WORK.

>>379235654
haha no stop useing a toaster from 1995 retard

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>>379233614
No, was born in the 80's. Would say Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are pretty good games but everything else was just trash. You have either total love Rare games or hate, there was no middle line for most of their titles.

>>379234623

>Nights is okay but nothing special

I don't think there's an awful lot of games like it. It's certainly a special game.

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>>379234747

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funny how the saturn has the most games that havent aged like dogshit in that gen

>>379235748
It's a school night billy, shouldn't you be in bed? Don't worry will be enjoying Saturn games on real hardware while you mess around with a emulator which still has a ton of games not running correctly.

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You guys are using Mednafen for Saturn emulation right?

>>379228423
Virtua Fighter 2, you dumb motherfucker.

>>379233971
Yeah, but then in some games why is the fence and the ground breathing?

>>379235497
He's right, anon. The Saturn is optimized for sprite based graphics.

Also, their 3D was based around quadrilaterals and not triangles like everybody else, which is why the tip of the Saturn triangls are cut off

>>379232991
I can't blame Nintendo for sticking to cartridges when the most recent examples for the superiority of CD's were the Sega CD, 3DO, Jaguar CD, and Philips CDI. Do you really think Nintendo would be impressed with CD's after that?

>>379236218
>enjoying Saturn games on real hardware

>he bot intoo the hardware jew

looooool cuck

>>379232698
>PSX release date: December 3, 1994
>Xbox 360 release date: November 2005

????????????

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?

>>379238020
yeah no, my GF (male) bought me a ps1 in 2009 she told me it was there newest console

>>379238154
8/10 b8

>>379234528
final fantasy the 4 heroes might be good for you