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Don't care
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>>379208545
sony = dead
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>>379208545
Why does it looks like a router?
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MS HAVE DOLHPINS TRAPPED INSIDE SCORPIO

HOW DO WE GET THEM OUT BROS?

HOW DO WE SAVE OUR DOLPHIN BROS? SOMEONE CALL /AN/
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>>379208545
>still using that shitty Jaguar-based CPU

Yeah boiiiiiiii, let me just upgrade my Core 2 Duo machine with a 1080 Ti so I can play all the latest games!
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>>379208692
Because it IS a router. YOu need constant internet connection to stream games from microsofts servers
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this console is entirely a screen

microsoft btfo
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>>379208545
>m.youtube
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>>379208545
OPTIC BLAST
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>>379208545
>it's a tablet
get your own ideas, microsoft
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>>379208901
kek
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>>379208692
Looks more like a VCR.
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Holy shit, did anybody see those dolphins?
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>>379208773
Don't worry, at least you'll be able to play games at native 4k on low settings at sub 20 FPS
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>>379208545
who fucking cares?

Nintendo+Sony+PC is all people need. Microshit = NO GAEMS.
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>>379208545
Wait a second...
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>>379208743
>You
>Your reaction pic
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>>379208545
How is Xbox still alive?
I don't understand it at all. Everyone already has a fucking PC. Why do you need an Xbox. I have never once been pressured in 25 years of gaming to buy anything Xbox-related.

If you have Playstation & PC you have it all. If you want Nintendo you can buy it pretty cheap too, usually. There is no reason to fucking ever own an Xbox, the first console that charged money on top of the internet you already paid for to access internet.
Look at every E3 Microsoft presentation, it's all FIFA shit and football games that go on the PS3 anyway.... WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF OWNING XBOX???????????????????? WHY DO PEOPLE FUCKING BUY IT????? I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>379209676
>I have never once been pressured in 25 years of gaming to buy anything Xbox-related
You don't use an Xbox 360 gamepad?
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>>379209676
There's a reason why M$ is trying to get PC gamers to buy their shitty W10 shit.
It's failing big time too.
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>>379209676
I'm going to buy a Scorpio because it's leagues better than the PS4.
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Its over, JAPAN IS FINISHED
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>>379210025
Japan is Nintendo not Sony
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>>379210078
Its over, Nintendo and Sony are FINISHED!
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>>379209891
It isn't though. It's still using the exact same garbage tier CPU found in all the current machines, so 60fps is still completely out of the question for more demanding titles no matter how much they upgrade the GPU.
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Do people even care about scorpio? Or just xbox in general?
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>>379209891
This. PS4 Pro is lightweight compared to this.
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>>379209676
https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/27/microsofts-xbox-gaming-division-generated-1-9-billion-last-quarter/?utm_campaign=crowdfire&utm_content=crowdfire&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

>Gaming is still a solid business for Microsoft even if it isn’t seeing massive gains.

>The company reported the results of its fiscal Q3 today, and it revealed that it generated $1.928 billion in revenues from Xbox and Windows 10 gaming. That is up 4 percent year-over-year, according to Microsoft. An ongoing shift to digital for many consumers, purchasing games and other items through online stores instead of the local GameStop of Walmart, and the continued strength of Xbox Live were the primary drivers for this growth.

>“Xbox software and services revenue grew 7 percent driven by continued adoption of digital distribution and a strong game lineup,” Microsoft explained in a note to investors.
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>>379209891
what are you going to play on it?
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>>379210282
>LE xbox is dead meme BTFO
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>>379210162
Nintendo is eating Sony alive now. Sorry bro
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>>379210335
Forza Horizon 3.

Great game. Better than your non existent Grab Turismo 7
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>>379208983
What's a VCR?
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>>379209676
Right? If you wanted to play an xbox game you can get it on windows 10 anyway.
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>>379210372
>Nintendo is eating Sony alive now
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>>379209676
>the first console that charged money on top of the internet you already paid for to access internet
You mean the first that wasn't a gigantic fucking failure.
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>>379210372
60 MILLION
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>>379210227
No not really
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>>379209852
You mean the worst gamepad? Asymmetrical grip? Fuck off shill.
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>>379210632
>American normies
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>>379209676

>playstation + of is the right combo guys!
>not Nintendo + of

Where the fuck did this may may come from? who the fuck needs a PS4 and a pic?
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Currysoft is absolutely pathetic in their attempts to garner hype
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>>379209891
>Buying a system for it's specs not it's games
Rookie mistake...
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Incoming CPU bottleneck
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why does this anger Sonyfags so much?
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>>379209676
>How is Xbox still alive?
>I don't understand it at all.
Microsoft has unironically unlimited money and they have a license to print infinitely more.
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>>379208545
So instead of using resources to have a performance monitor on-screen it uses resources to have a performance monitor on the console?
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>>379208692
>Why does it looks like a router?

It's a devkit, not the final console.
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>>379209676
People sorely underestimate the brand name power Xbox has. While the PS3 eventually did turn around, everyone and their mothers already had a 360. People won't jump ship from the Xbox due to a shit reveal. Additionally, people tend to be fucking stupid. I'm not lying when most of my friends got the xbone because they could keep their gamertag info.
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>>379210184
>60fps is still completely out of the question for more demanding titles
That's where you're wrong kiddo
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>>379210457
no need to be rude anon. it was just a question.
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>>379210729
You need to go back to MyNintendoNews.com, Nintendicksucklet.
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>>379210743
All my X1 and b/c X360 games will work on it.
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>>379208545
What if it actually runs Dolphin though?
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WTF I love microsoft now!?
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>>379210941
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I kinda want a Scorpio
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>>379208545
>I've never seen this before
>I've seen games on the screen

Why do they feel the need to turn a devkit tech demo into a marketing tool.
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>>379210941
BF2 isn't on Steam.
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>thats a good question, larry

you faggots could at least try to sound natural
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>>379208692
They state right in the video that making it square is a feature (a very difficult one to implement). It's so you can stack them.
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>>379211219
http://store.steampowered.com/app/6060/STAR_WARS_Battlefront_II/
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>>379209676
Because you still get DX12 games without having the use the world's most fucking retarded OS on your desktop.
Any idiot can figure this out.
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>>379208545
Can i be able to still play with my bone pals?
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>>379210632
Yes, and that Golden goose is dry since people are buying the Switch now.

You don't seem to understand how fads work.
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>>379210941
4K at what settings though, I know Frostbite is good but it's not gonna be on high settings
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>>379211525
Yes
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>>379210941
SHIT SHIT SHIT
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>>379211379
Keep in mind that this setup is specific to the dev kit. It is unlikely that the retail Scorpio units will be designed to stack.
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>>379210227
do people care about this 8th gen? I've never seen a more boring one
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Sources keep saying it won't cost more than 500 dollars

It's time for you to apologize and accept Microsoft won
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>>379208545
>>379211138
This is pretty bizarre. Is this the only time that a games company has done promotional marketing videos for the dev kits of their console? Isn't stuff like how the dev kits works and even looks usually kept hidden from the public?
I guess Microsoft is betting on Scorpio to help save Xbox, but this is still weird.
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>>379211474
Xbox Scorpio run on Windows 10.
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>>379209676
Because nobody but poorfags and neckbeards game on PC, and if you don't play on PC an Xbox is a great investment.
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>>379210941
>implying
>bf2
>steam
eke
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>>379211721
That's what I said. I'll take W10 on a console but I'm not putting that shit on my computer.
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>>379210941
Considering said PCs belong to third world poorfags, who won't be able to afford a Scorpio, I don't see how this helps MS.
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Reminder that there is no such thing as an Xbot or a Microsoft fan on 4chan,hell the entire web. Anyone who defends the xbone or microsoft on 4chan is a shill.
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>>379211729
Not really, the Pro is still decent plus you actually get good exclusives
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>>379211219
>>379211754
Star wars battlefront 2 is coming to PC, Xbone and PS4.
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>>379211931
the fear in this post. Why?
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>>379211219
>>379211754
He's talking about this

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Scorpio will perform around the specs of the average PC using Steam, which won't be that high since Steam is full of poorfags
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>>379211931
Just like Sony. They all do that. They even gave The last guardian game to Pewdipie before it releases.
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>>379211974
It's on Origin.
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>>379212010
No fear Mr. Rajeet, contempt.
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>>379211931
nothing wrong with pajeets shilling Microsoft products
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>>379211931
>Paid to post on 4chan
I wish lol
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>>379210941
>vast majority of pc's on steam

this I believe because 85% of steam doesn't even have a 2gb card
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>>379211931
>ShitTube
>Jan 2014
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Can it play "Star Citizen" though? Can any console play it?
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>>379212085
I know that, but everybody hates Microsoft.
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>>379211651
But it actually looks good. They should keep this design, including the screen on the front.
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>>379212106
>>379212114
Yes fellas, let's shill Sony instead.
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>>379208545

All that sounds great. That's a good portion of RAM too. They speak up developers a lot too.

Where are the games though? They cancelled the one I wanted.
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>>379208545
Saged
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>m.
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>>379212289
>S-sony does it too!

Ok, that doesn't mean Microsoft isn't shilling, and that doesn't make it right.
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>>379212368
Not in 4chan for sure.
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>>379212368
>a shill vs a shill
I'm fucking laughing
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>>379212305
Don't worry, you can watch netflix in 4k while you wait for the yet another disappointing 343 Halo.
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>>379210941
>4k60
Kek, I can't wait for that 1800p with drops.
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>>379212305
>B-BoundScale
Game was pretty shit in the trailer. They renewed the trademark recently, maybe another studio will finish it in several years.
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Uh, that's great, Doc. But does it have games? Like exclusives?
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>>379212368
>I'm a shill for hyping up a console I want
Ok.

I dont have energy for console warring. I'm out. See you all at E3.
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>>379212526

>Boundscale

Are you having an stroke pajeet? Get to the shit river in your streets. It will lead to the hospital eventually.
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Sony had a good run. I guess they could always pack it up and use the leftover video game money for another Pixels movie...
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>>379212647
Its gonna have the best versions of the multiplats, a great online service, and all your friends. You post this like any of the other two consoles have any exclusives worth anything lol
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>>379212647

SILENCE

God I miss ATHF
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>>379212764
>Its gonna have the best versions of the multiplats, a great online service, and all your friends.
But I already have a PC for all that.
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>>379212654
Nobody wants this. Nobody. This will flop harder than the vita, especially if its over 500 dollars, which it will be if Microsofts claims are true.
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>>379209676
Pretty much what I thought until I got a job, turns out all my coworkers who play games do it on the bone.
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>>379212681
What's up with calling people "pajet"? I bet the best selling console in India is the PS4.
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>>379212834
neckbeard shit. My friends and all the girls are gonna be on Scorpio. PC is toxic.
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>>379212859

It's not the market. It's the marketing. India is good at mass marketing for pennies on the dollar. Same shit with tech support.
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>>379212836
I do. Especially if the rumors about MH5 and the new Ninja Gaiden being on the Xbox are true.
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>>379212929
>toxic
What a "white people" thing to say.
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>>379211704
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>379213002
You're only proving my point. I will be happy here playing the best, most popular versions, of vidya
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>>379212981
>one guy wants it for games normans don't care about

Totally not going to flop, it will outsell the ps4, and it kill the switch! You'll see!
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>HDMI in
???
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>yfw it's $599 US Dollars
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>>379213143
The Xbone has always had a TV mode

"THE NEW WATERCOOLER" remember
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>>379212834
PC doesn't have Red dead redemption 2 and is more expensive than a Scorpio.
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>Xbots coming back in full force
This E3 is gonna be amazing.
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>>379210941
>the VAST majority of PCs on Steam
what did he mean by this?
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>>379213201
No, I don't have an Xbone, I know very little about it or why the scorpio seems to have so many ports on the backside
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>>379213174
Its confirmed to be less than that. I honestly see them doing a totally awesome, bull, move and sell it for 400 max, but I'm predicting 350
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>>379213098
>The PS4 and the Switch can coexist
>The Xbox canten't!!!!
Typical retarded console warrior mentality.
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>>379213286
It was supposed to be the "center of the living room", we can see how that turned out.
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>>379213236
>yfw Sony gets btfo by both of its competitors
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>>379213174

It's going to have to be at 24 fucking gigs of RAM.

RAM is sort of medium range of price on a build. That much? Fucking hell. They're planning on "future proofing" this son of a bitch. It hast to be 600 bucks.

If not then they're losing money on it which is a bad move.
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>>379213326
The sooner Xbox dies, the better. Everything microsoft has introduced and popularized has been horrible for gaming.

A big one is paid online.

>Its confirmed to be less than that
Where? Show me proof and not a rumor.
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>>379213364
No, I mean I look forward to laughing at all these fanboys flinging shit at each other as if they're not all cancer.
Gonna be amazing.
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>>379213174
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>>379212834
A console for games together with low-end PC for work does all the same things as a high-end gaming PC but for half the price. In addition, a console just offers a better experience for games with less troubleshooting and better compatibility and no waiting for ports.
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>>379213423
They lost money on the bone too. So did the PS4 and PS3. This is the new norm for consoles.
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>>379213480
>twitter screencap

Oh wow. I've been BTFO.
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>>379213520
Except for Nintendo
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>>379213480
exactly. This is a genius move. Subscribe to Gold. You get all the 100s of games available on the Game Pass free, now in 4k 60fps, all for like 10$/month. Good shit.
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>>379213553
Considering they overprice everything its no surprise
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>>379213497
Or I can just use my high end PC AND have a low end laptop for school/work and not waste money on an Xbox.
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>>379213445
So you want Sony to become a monopoly in the console market?
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>>379213174
It's either going to be stupid expensive, or less powerful than they're claiming. There is no earthly way they can offer real 4K, even at 30fps for $400 or less
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>>379213616
>and not waste money on an Xbox
Yes, the Xbox is the waste even though it's half the price of your build.
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>>379213520

PS3 lost on the unique processor. Gained it later.

There is no fucking way they lost on the first Xbone. They underbid AMD on the build compared to Sony. How the fuck do spend to much on laptop equipment from 2012 with a VHS case? I refuse to believe that.
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>>379213615
It's really not overpricing, they just don't like taking losses. Their profit percentages are pretty reasonable
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>>379213641
No console will ever again have as much of a monopoly as the PS2 did, and yet every 6th gen system had good games
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>>379213641
No, I'd want Sega to take Microsofts place but that'll never happen.

I wonder if Samsung would make a console, hmm.
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Why do devs need 10 xboxes? Wouldn't you only need one for each project?
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>>379213734
Sony has always been upfront about the fact that they sell the consoles themselves at a loss
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>>379213326
Idort here Microsoft Microsoft's Xbox division deserves to be killed off because of all the harm they've done to the industry in the time they've been in it alone.

This is undeniable fact.
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>>379213734
They did. Kinect was expensive.
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>>379213298
>Its confirmed to be less than that.
By who?
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>>379209676
This bitch never played Ninja Gaiden black and 2, JSRF, Otogi games, Lost Odyssey, played Bayonetta at 20fps, played RDR at like 500p, pretty much shit versions of any console exclusives, and more, and you are all unironically agreeing with him that there is no reason to ever own an Xbox product.
God damn it I hate Sonybros so fucking much. Please shoot yourselves.
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>>379213769
Google Console, the chromeconsole.
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>>379213863
Don't you know?

>>379213480
By JezCordon! The one and only!
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>>379213593
wow, I didnt think about that.
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>>379213539
Not him, but he's right in theory. Obviously it doesn't prove anything, but unlike Intel/AMD/etc, Xbox has ways to make money on their product outside of hardware sales.
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>>379213735
>It's really not overpricing
>some WiiU games are still 60 bucks
>even WiiUs in some places are still expensive as fuck despite them collecting dust on the shelves
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>>379213691
Well it has no exclusives and runs games worse, so yea, I'd say it's a waste.
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>>379213837

I understand Sony did. Not Microsoft.

>>379213858

Well that's more believable but so fucking stupid. Why did they stick by that gimmick. I feel the same way about VR at this moment. A few people care but it's not marketable wholesale.
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>>379213991
>Not him, but he's right in theory. Obviously it doesn't prove anything
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>>379209319
>vcr
>all that heavy weight like old tvs
>that noise when the tape was used too much
>that tape getting stucked
>that cleaning inside of the vcr
>those tapes that were supposed to clean something but they didn't
>all that childhood watching disney movies, toy story, star wars, and recording tv shows or some cartoons like Ducktales or anime like DB

Fuck nostalgia
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It still literally doesn't matter unless it has exclusives that aren't on pc.

I have an xbone, I haven't bought anything for it in two years though because they have NOTHING going for it that isn't on pc.
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>>379213286
It has an HDMI input to capture TV and record it, and I think it integrates with the cable box and with Cortana to select and view channels?

People used it for games for the lulz but it has input lag

>>379214045
There's a reason MS & Apple are shooting for "mixed AR" content instead of VR, it has actual usage
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>>379211704
You know it could happen if they do a comparison video to showcase Scorpio vs PS4 Pro at their conference.

A bunch of my coworkers are excited for Scorpio and said they only jumped on PS4 because it ran the multiplats bettter between it and XBox One.
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>>379213174
Rumor is $299 with regular xbone drop to $199
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>>379213846
>IDORT HERE
>posts valvefag image
Suck 10 dicks, mustard race. You refuse to play anything unless Valve's cum is inside it.
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>>379214025
Why do you care so much about exclusives? There are so many great games that aren't exclusives and so few that are.
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>>379214167
>Rumor is $299

Oh wow a rumor.

And really, a 4k console, at $299? Do you honestly even think that is remotely feasible?
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>>379214119
It might not matter to you, but the common man buys 3rd party multiplats more than anything else on non-Nintendo platforms.
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>>379214256
>There are so many great games that aren't exclusives
You mean games I can play on my PC?
We're just going in circles here m8.
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>>379212929
>neckbeard shit. My friends and all the girls are gonna be on Scorpio. PC is toxic.

Half of my barracks at the 82nd 2BCT are on Steam, say that to our faces not online
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>>379214167
Yeah right, it's $399 minimum.
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>>379214092

VCRs were terrible.

However you're forgetting the positive in that there were literally the easy piracy of the early days.

Record whatever the fuck you want whenever it aired. Don't shit it on it too hard. It was way ahead of its time. What you did record was shitty looking to todays standards but goddamn was it great.
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>>379214119
>He hasn't bought Sunset Overdrive
Fuck you
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>>379214336
And then the Supreme Court ruled that they were legal. A beautiful time
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>>379213480
>It's going to run games at 4k 60fps that will look better than PCs!
>It'll also be sold at a colossal loss.

lol no.
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>Hey Nelson our xbox system isnt doing very well
>should we invest in more games
>nah lets make a new console, hardware is obviously the problem
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>>379214167
rumor is 499$ retard
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>>379214423
The PS4 is doing well enough without games.
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>>379209676
Because sony decided to just fuck last generation up, a generation that was absurdly long and drawn out. The result of this is that the entirety of the young adult normalfag demographic got into video games with the 360. So no, it's not getting bloodborne, or panty quest VIIII; but look at the best selling games on the PS4 from last year and then tell me you don't understand why the xbox is still trucking along.
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>>379209676
Get a controller at least they work well and feel pretty good imo.
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>>379214351
I did, YEARS ago, when that game came out. >>379214293
And they don't buy them on xbox because them and their friends already own a ps4, cause ps4 has the third party shit AND exclusives.
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>>379214406
>>It's going to run games at 4k 60fps that will look better than most of the PCs!
fixed than for you. Anything with a GTX 1070 (Desktop version) or above is better than the scorpio.
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>>379214503

PC here and I can admit PS4 has exclusives I want
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>>379214119
Why do people think PC makes a dent. Fucking delusional
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>>379214265

No fucking way at this point I agree. That much RAM? That much everything? No. I'd be surprised at a 399.

They'd be insane at 299. Fucking "we're willing to waste money just for a gaming marketshare" thing which is not feasible.
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>>379214265
Taking a loss and making bank on Xbox Live, retard
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>>379213735
$90 USB-C CABLE IN A BIG PLASTIC HOLDER
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>>379214568
My gaming pc is older than the xbone by a couple years and is solely why I don't buy xbone games.

There's no point because I can play them better, here.

If I didn't have an xbone I'd have no reason to go and buy one.
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>>379214240
>Post a image of a dancing pyro in a leaf skirt because why the fuck not.
>Sperg out.

The fuck does me posting a nice little dance have to do with anything ?

Nigga cant like Valve have a PC, Switch, and a PS4 ?
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>>379214423
Hardware was a problem, a huge problem. It's just not the only one.
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>>379211527
You are delusional. The Switch is tracking nearly identical to the WiiU. That isn't a good sign. Ebay looks just like when the WiiU launched as well, with scalpers having shit loads of systems but not many buyers. You don't seem to understand how any thing works.
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>>379214663
at that price you'd have to buy like 8 years of xbox live to offset that loss.
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>>379214503

The only reason I bought a PS4 slim was the exclusives like Bloodborne and Horizon. People buy games for exclusives. Not fucking Battlefield 4 or Far Cry or AssCreed 90.

When you learn this you understand why people buy shit.
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>>379214670
Wow cool, one anectdotal piece of evidence. The numbera dont lie, PC doesnt mean shit in the multiplat game.
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>>379214773
>People buy games for exclusives.
Normalfags don't give a fuck.
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>>379214764
Microsoft is retarded enough to think that will work.
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>>379212176
I bet it's mostly just fags with laptops playing cs and tf2 at 10 frames a second.
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>>379214804
>PC doesnt mean shit in the multiplat game.

There's a lot of multiplats that are probably doing better on pc than xbone at this point.

Xbone marketshare is horrid.
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>>379214697
I lile lying on the internet too. Its why I'm pretending to be an Xbot right now.
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>>379214894
>probably
Nice
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>>379214773
>People buy games for exclusives. Not fucking Battlefield 4 or Far Cry or AssCreed 90.
http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/69/playstation-4/
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>>379214086
What are you confused about? It's absolutely true, but it doesn't necessarily prove that Scorpio is going to be sub-$500.
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>>379214503
>enough without games.
the Ps4 got nothing but games in 2017 and its not even done yet
what was the last major xbox release again?
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>>379214804
>The numbera dont lie
which numbers?
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>>379214773
>People buy games for exclusives. Not fucking Battlefield 4 or Far Cry or AssCreed 90.
In what world do you live? People literally buy consoles for better looking Call of Duties and Madden. Exclusives matter less than those, hell, if a majority of their friends play on that system they'll get it just to play it.
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>>379214167
>Rumor is $299
Where?
Scorpio estimated price is $400-550
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>>379215004
>he's right
>in theory
>but that doesn't prove anything
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>>379214827

You didn't correct me on my mistake of

>buying games for exclusives

I'm inclined to believe at this point actual marketing going on here.
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>>379214773

What a basic misunderstanding. Normans play consoles because they are too dumb or uninterested in learning how to play games on a PC. The average normie buys an Xbone or PS4 to play FIFA and COD, maybe mulling over the exclusives when they notice them.
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>We created a console two times as powerful as the Scorpio, but we only shipped it to developers. You guys will be paying for a shittier product, but that's okay because you don't know any better.

Whoa!
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>>379215012
And the PS4 sold better in a time before games.
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>>379215012
H-halo... 5...
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>>379214894
the win10 market share of PC is also horrid and the vast majority of machines running steam are laptops. if you're capable of putting shit into mobo slots then you're already way ahead of the vast majority of america who are vegetables that think windows computers are only acquired via packard bell
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>>379214523
the fuck is with that car. It looks like someone took the time to model and texture everything else properly but upsized a race car toy instead of modeling a nice looking car
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>>379215030
Fucking facts. If people bought PS4s for exclusives, Bloodborne wouldnt be a 2million sales failure.

Get some common sense, retards
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>>379213286
>I know very little about a current gen game console
/v/ - Video Games
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>>379215030

You buy the initial system on exclusives though. You can get anything third party and it always looks identical.
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>>379214804
>The numbera dont lie
Then present said numbers.
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>>379214669
Fair enough, that's probably over priced, but I feel relatively certain if I looked I could find overpriced accesories for sony and microsoft
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I love how people think the Scorpio will sell and btfo out of the ps4 because its more powerful.

If that was the case, than the vita should have destroyed the 3ds, but as we all know. That didn't happen.
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>>379214697
Actually the Switch is beating the Wii U in hardware sales after 87 days vs the Wii U in 100 days. Stop trying to spread lies.
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>>379212764
That is a pretty round about way of saying "no".
It is better to have a few mediocre to good exclusives to having fucking NOTHING. If you have a PC worth a damn the Scorpio is a fucking joke. I still don't understand it.
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>>379211527
>You don't seem to understand how fads work.
>PS4 selling truckloads is a fad
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>>379215298
>comparing handhelds

go take an argumentative class
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>Forza Motorsport 7
>Crackdown 3
>Sea of Thieves
>A "little something" for Halo
What else are they going to show during the e3 2017? This won't be enough.
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>>379215086
You do understand that the part that I said was right is different from the part I said was unproven?
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>>379214691
The Ps3 also had a huge hardware problem (DA POWA OF DA CELL) but even sony was smart enough to realise they needed to increase game output
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>>379214894
>>379214943
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>>379215302
>if you have a pc worth a damn

go look at the steam link retard
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>>379215374
They need new IPs.
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>>379215150

Wait, the Normans play consoles because they're dumb? I thought they're just a part of France. They're key to this?! Wow. I never thought the French were so integral to console market.
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>>379215256
>You buy the initial system on exclusives though.
No, you don't. Let me reword that: You buy them for that, normal people buy them because their friends are buying them for Call of Duty. Normal people don't play multiplats on PC, and if they can get better looking versions of said multiplats on a newer system they're going to get the newer system if their friends bother and then bicker back and forth that their system is better and has the better looking games on and on and on.
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>>379214764
You do know digital game sales are on the rise for both ps4 and x1 that they gain maximum profit
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>>379215301
not him but
>nearly actual
even on your chart the difference is three fucking pixels
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>>379215298
Most people don't give a shit about sales. I just want a quality product at a competitive price
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>>379213423
It has 12 gigs of RAM. The dev kits have 24.
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>>379215460
>Vgshartz
Wow you really showed me.
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>>379215228
Rockstar really fucked a lot of the better cars in gtaV it's fucking sad. That's why car mods are so vastly popular for single player.
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>>379215460
now post some actually successful games like battlefield
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>>379215460
>VGChartz
Stop posting, you have showed your true ignorance
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>>379215374
Shadow of Mordor
New Minecraft shit
Rare's second game
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>>379215373
The Vita vs 3ds is basically the Scorpio vs ps4 right now.
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>>379215374
You can bet on the show being 80% hardware shilling with those games sprinkled in between and some 3rd party exclusive at the end, my bet is on Splinter Cell
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>>379215565
>>379215631
Ahh, so you've got more accurate data?
Post it then, I'll wait.
>>379215618
Why?
BF, GTA, CoD, and Fifa aren't the only multiplats on the market.
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>>379215507

That's not really the truth anymore though. The PS4 has brought a whole new group of plebs in. The Xbox isn't in vogue anymore. Some? Maybe but the PS4 is the new Xbox 360. The Xbone is just people that don't pay attention anymore.
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>>379215656
They have marketing right for the new Assassin creed not Splinter Cell.
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>>379215536
It's selling out of consoles outside of Q4 Holiday season. If you can't see why that is impressive with only two games that also released on the Wii U then you are mentally challenged anon.
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>>379215670
>BF, GTA, CoD, and Fifa aren't the only multiplats on the market.
No but they're the ones that console buying normals are actually playing (you can tell because they're the best selling games of the previous few years)
It's like saying that the console industry is dying because more people played Mighty Number 9 and Yooka-Laylee on PC than any other system
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>>379214167

In euroland, I saw a Xbone 500gb for 199 euros. But why buy that shit? Sure I missed some games on the 360 and wanted to play the HD version of Guardian Heroes, but it's not worth just for that.
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>>379215813
>It's like saying that the console industry is dying because more people played Mighty Number 9 and Yooka-Laylee on PC than any other system
It's more like saying that the console industry is dying because no one buys anything but Fifa, CoD, GTA, and BF.
Which is funny because that's exactly what's happening.
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>>379215681
Oh I'm not disputing that, and Xbone getting games at 720p and 900p constantly while always underperforming on multiplats really doesn't help its case, but I was speaking in a general sense of what normal people buy consoles for. They don't care about exclusives and those are more an afterthought after they own the console rather than the sole reason to buy it. Nintendo stuff is the only time where that case is reversed, the system is bought for the exclusives and not the multiplats.
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>>379215787
Q4 holiday season only matters if the systems are being bought for children, and that's the case for neither the wiiu or the switch. Sweaty neckbeard manchildren will buy nintendo's newest toy no matter what time of the year it comes out.
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>>379213272
PC owners who use Steam on average have a PC that is weaker than consoles. Not to say that there aren't people with high end shit but that a majority of people on Steam have shit low end computers.
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>>379215914
>consoles are exclusively made for the lowest common denominator
>games made for the lowest common denominator are selling on them
uh wow wtf the I guess that's it mobile phones are the future
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>>379215670
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>>379215643
How?
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>>379215739
i mean full exclusivity
same deal as conviction
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>>379215958
Laptop normies make me feel sick, and to think so many of them are shitting up steam on a daily basis.
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>>379215936
Financial briefing is in a few weeks. Should be interesting to see how it stacks up, but by Nintendos words its still outpacing their older consoles. Only thing holding them back from making more is production issues and supply constraining. In Japan its been the clear winner week after week.
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>>379216103
>Company hastily creates a new console in a last ditch effort to remain relevant
>They tout this new console as being way more powerful than the competition, it's also the main selling point
>The new console is significantly more expensive than its competitor
>It flops
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>>379216137
No way SP7 is a Xbox exclusive again.
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>>379216063
So what happens when the lowest common denominator goes below consoles?
We already saw what happened with handhelds vs. phones, do you honestly believe consoles are immune to this?
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>>379208545
>4k
>no displayport support
why?
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>>379209891
>ignores the now-expected CPU bottleneck

I hate that all console manufacturers are still insisting on doing this every time they design a new unit. Fuck off.

Built my own PC, never looked back. HDMI it to muh telly.
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>>379215012
>half the images posted aren't even out yet btw
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>>379210457
rude af desu
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>>379215374
>>379090451

>Crackdown 3 : MS aims for an GTA Online Style of Game with an ongoing support over the next years. It looks absolutely incredible.
>Sea of Thieves : They will show an Cave Mission where you fight against a Kraken with your mates and another pirate crew. {March 2018}
>Forza 7 : Release Date - September 20
>State of Decay 2 : Q4 2017 Release Date
>Exclusive Ninja Gaiden Project : A new Ninja Gaiden is on its way, exclusive for Xbox One, funded by MS.
>Borderlands 3 (time exclusive) : Borderlands will be time exclusive for one year. The last i knew about this deal was 2014 - it could have changed (instead exclusive Content) Announcement this E3.
>Fable Online : Studio Fobo is working on a Fable Game. Its basically a resurrection of the Fable Legends Project. However they will make drastically changes, no moba game this time, more of an Online RPG inspired by Destiny. You can go on mission with friends, meet in towns where you can equip and sell your weapons.
>New IP From CapCom: Knight of Aegis : 1974, New York City. You are recruited into the Order of Aegis, an elite brotherhood of Mystic Knights sworn to protect and keep the peace between the mortal and supernatural realms. When a powerful evil stirs in the darkness, you must master the ancient powers of the past in order to save humanity's future.
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>>379214423
why shit on Nelson. He's just a PR puppet. Phil Spencer is the head of xbox. and why is everyone so quick to shout no games, just because we know Sony's E3 lineup because they showed it last year doesn't mean xbox doesn't have anything.

But seriously /v/ is too eager to bash something before it's even worth bashing. I mean hypothetically what if Microsoft actually has a good E3 and they show a bunch of exclusives and Scorpio cost $400 and Sony just reiterates last years games. what then? does Sony still win because we're in /v/ and that's just how it is?
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>>379216547
This sounds like a great launch. I expect massive success
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>>379216547
I better get Below and a fucking Cuphead release date. I swear if they're just in the highlight reel again.
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>>379210941
probably because the majority of steam users are children on laptops who only installed it so they can play the lastest meme game they saw their favorite youtuber play.
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>>379213930
Why are there people like you even alive?
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>>379215012
>Gow
2018
>TLoU 2
2018
>Zombie something
2018
>Death Stranding
2049
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>>379210941
>Native 4k
Kek. More like checkerboarding with AA turned off
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>>379216547
That thread was bait retard.
>Xbox - that means, MH5 will be announced at E3 at Sonys Stage and will release on Ps4,Xbox One and PC. This Deal was made at a time, when Microsoft still wanted to get a ground
this is a complete fake.
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>>379208545
Who else is ready for Microsoft to steal the show at E3? It's going to be hype as fuck!
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>>379216637
Xbox will have something. More cancellation announcements!
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>Literally just fucking clickbait in the OP
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Why all the Xbox hate? Are Sony fanboys really this scared?
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>>379209891
I hope you enjoy that 4k paperweight experience.
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>>379208545
Alright. Now pay me back for the worthless Bone I bought and I'll think about buying another one of your shitty products in 10 years.
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How exactly has Xbox losing exclusives with the Xbox Play Anywhere made it better?
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>>379217060
Of course. Imagine if the only reason you won a generation was because the competitors fucked themselves over through a series of cartoonish errors, and now it looked as though they had learned not to be that fucking stupid
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>>379217118
Scorpio without 4K can still do 1080p60 without fucking up like the pro
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>>379216547
Please let the ninja gaiden project be true.
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>>379209676
Lot of kids still buy into the Xbox for some reason even though most of them who got a One for Christ were like 3 when the 360 launched.

The 360 is already almost 12 years old.
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>>379217060
PC fags are laughing at the 'native 4k 60fps'
Sony fags are laughing at your dead console
Nintendo fags are laughing at your lack of first party titles
Everyone's laughing at Xbox right now anon
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>>379217134
You can sell it on Amazon along with your PS4 if you are getting the PS4 pro.
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>>379208692
Because when you go into the store to buy a video game you have to lay a new ROUTE to avoid the section.
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>>379217208
>Lot of kids still buy into the Xbox for some reason
It's because they only games they care about are multiplats, and they trust Xbox's online more than Sony's
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>>379216875
None of those games have dates.
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>>379217293
and they can still play their 360 games on it.
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>>379215536
It's also adjusted with no explanation of how. In reality a different method of adjustment might demonstrate the opposite fact.
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>>379213423
Devkits always had double the ram for debugging. The unit plus license is also around 10.000 bucks
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>$599
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>>379217362
none of those games are gonna release this year, keep dreaming. Sony loves announcing games years ahead of time for "E3 WINS", its sad and predictable.
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I own a Pc and PS4, and was thinking of getting a One S sometime soon since I'll be done paying off tuition/loans relatively quickly. Is there any reason to get one now that all this Scorpio shit is going down? Should I wait for a new console announcement?

I don't have one right now since there are no exclusives on it that I want. Console exclusives I could just get on the PS4. I'm only considering purchasing one because they're relatively cheap at $250 and all of my normie friends seem to own one and play exclusively on it.
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>>379217473
Source?
>>
I love how people don't get that such upgraded consoles will never be worth their money. Devs will always chose to program for the standard version and just slightly bump the resolution for the upgraded version. Does anyone really believe that devs will make 4 console versions of the same game, when they can chose to do 2 versions that play all 4 consoles.
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>>379209223
more like big fatass desktop+UMPC, haven't bothered with anything past the ps3.
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>>379217572
Scorpio is 6x more powerful than the Xbox one and can play game from 1080p to 4K(have yet to prove the 4K stuff).
Xbone is playing the games at 900p.
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>>379217060
If you're an active video game player, the xbox provides nothing.
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>>379217262
I'd rather crack in half and fill it to the brim with semen and put on display in my foyer, to be frank.
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>>379217572
>tfw devs will never willingly gimp the older version so the game can take full advantage of the new hardware
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>>379217473
>>379217561
they confirmed the price range of $400-500. With a possible leaked prices being $399.99, $449.99, $499.99 but again under 500 nowhere near 599.
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>>379217060
No, I'm just not happy that I spent $300 on this thing and have gotten maybe $6 of value out of it.
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>>379209676
Microsoft gets so much money from Windows and Microsoft Office they can keep the Xbox brand around just because, even if the Xbox brand itself has rarely made a profit.
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>>379217771
So, do you expect more than higher resolutions and some better textures? You won't see any worth while improvements, that make it worth buying a dead console again. And if it flops, expect even less bc no one will care to do anything for it.
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>>379217293
In all fairness sonys online is/was terrible so that's actually a good reason to prefer the heXbox
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>>379217984
>they
Who?
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>>379217771
Scorpio doesn't play games at 1080p unless the game is built for it. A very simple example is the Assassin's Creed games released on the system. They are locked at 900p on the Xbone at 30FPS with lots of drops. All running them on a Scorpio will do is still stay at 900p but throw them to 30FPS solid. Unless it's dynamic or coded specifically for the Scorpio it's not going to magically become 1080p/4k. Plus the feature of it bumping up stuff on Xbone games is literally just how Boost Mode works except they went through each title and patched crashes and problems caused by accessing the new hardware, they didn't have each company patch each game ever made.
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>>379217554
Why in gods name would you do that?
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>>379218245
So far the games that will support 4K on the Scorpio are:
>Forza Motorsport 7
>Crackdown 3
>State of Decay 2
>Call of Duty WWII
>FIFA 18
>Madden
>Battlefront 2
>Middle Earth: Shadow of War
>Red Dead Redemption 2.
I expect more during the E3, especially the new Assassin Creed since they seem to have the marketing rights according to some people here.
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>>379218648
>>Call of Duty WWII
>>FIFA 18
>>Madden
>>Battlefront 2
Does it need more than this to win the West?
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>>379218067
Yeah, that's what it is. The scorpio isn't replacing the Xbox one, it's an upgrade.
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>>379208881
>SWITCH IS THE FIRST 9TH GEN
>SWITCH IS AMAZING
>SWITCH IS A PORTABLE HOME CONSOLE
>SWITCH IS A HOME HANDHELD
>WHY DON'T I HAVE ANY FRIEEEEEEEEEEENDS
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>>379218789
All of those statements you made are true, especially the last one
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>>379218789
>not playing in the car while you travel with your friends
SAD!
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>>379213480

why do people fall for EVERY damn marketing meme.
it's the same lies over and over and over again and the same people fall for it every time.

>the ps4 will be more powerful than a high-end pc because of its closed structure!!!
>the xbox will have "the cloud" which will magically enhance all the games!!!
>MUH TERAFLOPS!!!
>it will have 1080p 60fps!!!
>it will have native 4k!!! this time fo sure xD!!!!

it's really shocking how easy it is to manipulate these people.
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>>379219203
>It's OKAY WHEN SONY DOES IT
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>>379218885
switch is not a 9th gen console. it's not even an 8th gen console. Nvidia Shield is not an 8th gen console and the Nvidia Shield is about twice as good as a Switch.

Switch is actually shit, far from amazing. Might be cool if it were $150, but $299 is not even cool let alone amazing.

Switch is a portable console that you can plug into your tv, except it's too big to be comfortably portable.

You don't have any friends. You got a switch cause the ads were filled with people having friends.
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>>379208545
nelson is looking old as shit
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>>379219579
He's almost 70, anon.
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I can't fucking believe there are people in here defending no exclusives.

>"but its more powerful!"
Its still a console weaker then a PC.
>"but that's where my friends will be playing!"
If you honestly depend on your friends choices on whether you buy a certain system or not, I suggest you step out of online gaming only.
>"but I just don't know enough about computers!"
You can learn. You can educate yourself.
>"but the Scorpio will be cheap!"
No, it really won't. Many people had a problem with the PS4 being $400 at launch. It wasn't "five hundred, and ninty-nine dollars" bad, but it was still pushing it a bit. If the Scorpio is actually over $400, which, lets be honest, it will be. MS will tout it as the "exclusive experience worth paying for" or some retarded shit to justify its price. And just by being over $400, means you will likely be able to make a PC that is more powerful, with the same amount of money, and still have some left over for games.

Don't forget, the industry is about games, and which ones interest you enough to buy a system for it.
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>>379219338

where did I imply that?
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>>379219385
No people got the Switch because of Zelda, its portablility and upcoming exclusive games like Xenoblade, Mario etc.
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>>379219621
Why is he still doing it

Why is M$ still using him
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>>379219385
Wrong kys cuck
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>>379219385
I guess I'll respond, I don't really have anything better to do.
First off, generation is not defined by whatever arbitrary levels of power you've assigned to them, it's just a marker of time. The Switch is clearly the successor to the Wii U, making it Nintendo 9th Gen console.
Second, I don't see how pricing would change whether a console is amazing or not. This point seems to be another victim of your inability to draw logical connections.
Third, you can hate on the hybrid concept as much as you want, it alone is what sold me. I think it's cool as shit, and I've never heard anyone outside of /v/ say anything different.
Finally, I do have friends, and within that group there are literally more Switches than cars. I think it'll be just fine.
Feel free to respond, but this is the only (you) I feel like giving you
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>>379219621
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>>379219686
You can't defend exclusive when Multiplatform games are doing better.
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Is the Scorpio at least powerful or just propaganda like the PS4Pro to cash in on darksydephil-like retards.
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>>379219686
>Its still a console weaker then a PC.
weaker than a 500$ PC? Where i can buy that 500$ PC?
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>>379219913
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wait the retail version wont have a VMU type screen? darn
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>>379219913
It's powerful for a console, but either microsoft is lying about how powerful it actually is, or microsoft plans to sell it at a huge loss. Because it can not be lower than $500 with the things they are claiming.
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>>379220040
nice
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Why would they make a super-powered console to play XBOne games?
It's not like having a more powerful console will make the old games look better, or give them any good exclusives.
When do you guys think Microsoft's gonna drop out of the race?
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>>379219686
It is about games anon, and you are missing the biggest piece here:

Sony has now entered the same arrogance level that Xbox had right after the 360 launch.

Sony just made about 5 major IP marketing deals and just told players that "Backwards compatibility is stupid"

Their entire show is going to be filled with 10 minute slots for multiplats and some showcases of their tired exclusives line, save for spiderman

Xbox has a real opportunity here to turn heads and make people hop on, if the Scorpio can be the first Native 4k console and deliever on its promises than it already becomes the defacto console for normies.

if it can seal the deal with some good games (Borderlands 3 rumor, normies eat that shit up) then Microsoft is going to be sitting pretty come November.

This E3 is going to be exciting for all parties, but if Microsoft stumbles out the gate then they might as well hang it up there and then
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>>379220217
I'm not usually one to call out Reddit spacing, but damn son
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>>379214092
>tfw moving
>tfw boxes upon boxes upon boxes of VHS tapes, a lot just recordings of particular TV programs
>still deciding whether to trash them or not

fuck.
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>>379220569
Digitize that shit first. You never know what you may have caught that's otherwise lost
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>>379220184
>When do you guys think Microsoft's gonna drop out of the race?
Never >>379210282
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>>379220040
So no benchmarks or anything?
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>>379208545
I feel lik the Scorpio is going to be huge. Giving devs what they need, open all the communication barriers for optimization and more.
Spencer this E3 is yours better bring it.
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>>379217572
There were games in the past that tried to do what you are suggesting and the result is unplayable garbage on the weaker hardware and an embarassment to the brand, which is why it's not done anymore. At least the way it is now, all versions of the game are playable.
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>>379216319
Because of the new hdmi and freesync.
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>>379219717
the game was available on Wii U and 12 million people owned Wii U's so no, people got Wii U's for zelda, then retards got Switch's for Zelda cause Nintendo abandoned the Wii U and they're desperate faggots who will follow Nintendo's every beckon and call. It's also a shitty portable cause it's too bulky, because of the detachable joycons. And those games don't come til December, aka no reason to get one now, especially while it's still $299.

>>379219747
Wrong kys cuckerino

>>379219794
Firstly, Generation is defined by power and not arbitrarily. Power coincides with time, as time move forwards we get more power. Older generations have continued long after newer generations because of this, an you can find proof of this on wikipedia if you want. The Switch is not 9th gen, Wii U wasn't 8th gen, and the Wii was not 7th gen. The Wii U was 7th gen and the Switch is 7th gen.

Second, you are fucking retarded and have no idea how to make logical connections.

Third, you are still fucking retarded.

Finally, no you do not have friends. You just have people around you who play video games. When you go to a restaurant, you're not suddenly among friends because you are surrounded by people who are also hungry. If there are more people with switches than cars around you, I'd wager you're not even 18 years old and therefore breaking a rule of the use of 4chan.

>>379220217
E3 will be amazing for anyone but Nintendo as they drop ports and literally show off one or two games because of their "("("(policy)")")" of only focusing on games releasing this year.
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>>379220757
E3
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For 4K, you need a 4K screen/TV. How many people are going to buy or own a 4K HDR TV for this?
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>>379221146

uuuuuhm, nu-uh?! xbox has a secret technique to magically compress the 4k to make it look better even on non 4k TVs. check you're facts mate :D
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>>379221146
>2017
>Not owning a 4K tv
Poorfag. 4K TV is the standard and technology has already moved to 8K.
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Where were you when Microsoft and Nintendo won?
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>>379221336
>>379221336
Actually on a FHD TV, it will look better apparently.
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>>379221646
The universe is returning to it's natural state
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>>379221646
Won what? Sony sold 60 MILLION PS4.
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>>379221646
Where were you when Nintendo lost?
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>>379218053
>make a retarded purchase
>wow fuckin ms they are stealing from me

serves you right, retard
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>>379221745
Sony on BC for PS4: "Why would anyone play this?"
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>>379221336
It's not magic

The awful resolution scaling shit actually worked in Xboxs favor, now every game that uses it hits 1080p and 60 if they extended it from 30.

Plus the Scorpio uses freesync so that shit should be smooth if your monitor supports it
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>>379221827
>Nintendo lost
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>>379218078
They both use P2P connections for their multiplayer there's no advantage either side has when it comes to that.
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>>379217183
still no japanese gaems though
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>>379222053
I just finished Lost Odyssey on my xbone
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>>379221905
are there any TV's that support it?
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>>379221883
"Just remaster it and charge them"
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>>379221973
Nintendo lost as soon as Yamauchi gave Nintendo to Iwata for facetious reasons totally unrelated to Iwata's actual worth or economic intelligence as a businessman, which he wasn't.

They continued to lose until Yamauchi passed away. Nintendo then sold their stake in the Seattle Mariners to stay afloat after the remainder of the Yamauchi family cashed out their stakes in Nintendo, where they had previously at least in part allowed a semblance of Yamauchi's direction to continue existing through stockholder direction. Then Iwata died and somehow they found a mook who would continue his failed legacy of memes and dreams, allowing one of the worst game designers at Nintendo to lead the engineering team for their next console, which unironically explains why the Switch is an engineering disaster.

Nintendo is dancing on the edge of oblivion :^)
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>>379220184
>It's not like having a more powerful console will make the old games look better

Some might, the extra power will help games with dynamic resolution stay at 1080p like Halo 5 and the witcher 3. Also better frame rates for existing games.

Think of it like BC on the xboner where games like Reach, Red Dead, Black ops, etc run better than on the 360
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>>379222625
That is a really impressively detailed bit of bullshit
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>>379222298
no. But now that a console offers it, though, it seems reasonable to think that someone will make a TV that supports it too.
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>>379222741
it's all true and the details were provided for (You)r own research.
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>>379222274
is that game atleast decent?

got it when they gave it away for free
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So this is basically just a PC with a G4560 and an RX 580?
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>>379215958
>PC owners who use Steam on average have a PC that is weaker than consoles. Not to say that there aren't people with high end shit but that a majority of people on Steam have shit low end computers.
Since PCs inception in 1981 most PCs sold were low-to-midrange machines. These were already very expensive (thousands of dollars, while high-end machines did cost tens of thousands).
Since 1981 most games ported to PC (always been a port dump) targeted those middle ground machines, usually with lesser graphics and sound abilities than the lead platform of the respective time.
For example: Early PC games usually got four colors and a single sine wave as sound, while consoles could draw 64 colors and even play multi-channel music.
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>>379215958
This is kind of irrelevant when Steam has over 130 million users.
Even if only 20% of users have a PC that outdoes the Scorpio, that's still over 22 million people.
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>>379221646
this
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>>379223160
>Even if only 20% of users have a PC that outdoes the Scorpio
More like 0.1 %
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>>379222917
It's better than decent and as it was free you really don't have any excuse
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>>379215374
Also http://gematsu.com/2017/04/disney-infinity-playset-developer-studio-gobo-announces-partnership-microsoft-studios
>According to a gameplay designer job listing, Studio Gobo is currently working on a “third-person AAA character action console game.” A UX designer listing mentions a “free-to-play product based on a globally-recognized IP for a major publisher.” A senior graphics programmer listing mentions “developing a game which is a much loved and world-renowned.” And other listings simply mention an “unannounced console game.” It is unknown whether all of these listings are talking about different games, or if any of them are related to the studio’s partnership with Microsoft.
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>>379210626
Are you just here to shit post?
You just gonna neglect the N64 online? Or Sega channel xband for Genesis and SNES .
Fucking hell I want neo-v to leave.
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>>379223416
m8, the GTX 1070 alone makes up 5% of all modern Steam GPUs.
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>>379223452
>f2p
Into trash it goes
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>>379223519
1060*
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>>379208545
Spencer smug face this E3 confirmed
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>>379223519
Scorpio has the power of a GTX 1060
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>>379222849
Don't expect Shilltoddlecucks to acknowledge facts. Just let them enjoy their fail company before the go 3rd party or bankrupt.
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>>379223686
It's actually slightly weaker than a 580, which would put it below a 1060 6 GB.
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>>379223673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
Upcoming
>4K TV
>4K TV
>4K TV
>TV
>4K PLAYER
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>>379221745
PS4 couldn't even outsell waggle machine from 2006 XD
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>>379213298
>350

Are you fucking high.

Its 400 if they want it to be successful

500 and up if they wanna commit sodoku
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So through what magic is the scorpio gonna handle 4k native at 60 fps when even top tier pcs struggle
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>>379221146
Bought one during Black Friday last year because my other tv died in October. 4K with HDR. Too bad I haven't been able to test it yet since I don't play video games
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>>379224101
>when even top tier pcs struggle
What kind of shitty PC do you have?
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>>379220957
>too bulky
>central unit is slightly bigger than a cell phone
>weighs like a kg at most
>console+joycons fits in at least half of my pant pockets with ease
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>>379220957
I am none of those you responded to, but jesus christ are you loyal to that corporate dick of your choice. you shouldnt let a console that other people happen to like get you so riled up, its unhealthy
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>>379224303
i5-7600k and a gtx980

Again I dont see how a 400-500 box can handle 4k native at 60fps
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>>379224101
4K 60FPS is the standard for PC.
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>>379224432
It can't.
That's the point.
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>>379224401
What's unhealthy is liking trash, even just pretending.

I'm loyal to no one, if anything I used to be a Nintendo fan, but that was with memories of my childhood when they actually did make competent hardware and good games which they haven't done in 15 years.
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>>379224432
I know Forza is a racing game and those aren't demanding, but they managed to port Forza 6 to Scorpio in three days. The game reached 4K 60 while only using 2/3 of its power. It was probably very well optimized since it's a first party game, but it competes with a 1070 on the PC side (assuming the PC port was done well)
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>>379224432
Selling it at a loss and having a standardized system allowing for optimization.
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>>379224535
nope, chronic stress from upsetting yourself over nothing constantly will definitely do you in quicker
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>>379219203
What's with the recent obsession with 4K anyway? How many people even have 4K TVs to take advantage of that resolution? I don't see why they don't cap it at 1080p and use the extra resources for either increased FPS or better graphics
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>>379224462

60fps of course, but 4k60fps is still only reachable by less than 20% of steam users, its accessible, not standard

>>379223519
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>24 gigs of RAM

FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE?
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>>379224719
>posting 100 words on a website that took less than 20 seconds to write is chronic stress.

Maybe being an armchair pseudo-internet doctor isn't your best bet going forward.
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>>379224825
That's the dev kit. The retail units will have 12 gb.
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>>379208545
That website lost any respect from me when it claimed that Gwent in W3 is hard
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>browse jewtube
>watch video MS is stalking the Switch
What the fuck MS?
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>>379224582
>but it competes with a 1070 on the PC side
Kek, no.
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>>379224476
>>379224983

here we go again.
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>>379208545

Will Sony babies ever recover from this?
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>>379225371
Soccer games
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>>379225215
My R9 Fury has more bandwidth than a 1080 too, what's your point?
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>>379225371
>>379225215
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
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look its a dvd player with a gov issue camera on it.
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>>379224809

artificial hype

it's literally people who have no clue what all of this means but were told that "it's totally the best thing for gaming, really!"
same thing with "muh teraflops" none of those console fanboys knew what it meant but they hyped it up anyways because they were told to do so.
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>>379225509
I compare Scorpio with power of a current PC GPUs. You are comparing PC parts with PC parts what your point?
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>>379209676
Xbox huge is actually a neat console, it's basically the later half of the Dreamcast library we were denied. I don't expect you to care though, this board is filled with teenagers.
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>>379225371

K E K
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>>379224809
I imagine the console will be capable of dsr
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>>379225753
My point is that bandwidth isn't the only thing that determines performance, an RX 580 has bandwidth on par with a 1070 and fails to match a 1060 in many cases.
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>>379208545
For you le gamers ;)
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>>379225787
The Xbox Huge was great, its the Kinect Era 360 and Xbone that suck.
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>>379225920
Hell, look at the bandwidth of the XB1, 204 GB/s and it was destroyed by the 176 GB/s PS4.
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>>379224809
>recent
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>>379225920
console works different than a PC and more bandwidth definitely determines more power. You are comparing again PC parts with each other again what's your point?
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>>379214764
>Cost of development
Probably in the $100M above range
>Subsidized
If PS3 is any indication, it will take Xbox a decade to offset their subsidy and probably even more depending on how much they subsidize the scorpio, software sales, etc
>profitability
So more than 10 years for it to be profitable
>Xbox games are also on PC
So guaranteed less sales right there.
>No games
How can they rely on software sales when it has no games.
>4k machine
A true 4k PC gaming today will at least cost you $1500. Unless the scorpio contains voodoo magic, it is impossible for it to run true/native 4k.

So it is literally impossible for Microsoft to sell this in the $300 range. If the answer is only for market disruption then it's not worth it because they will take a guaranteed billion dollar hit just for that. The only way I can see them subsidizing this thing if it can also disrupt PC gaming which means it can download/install PC games but I have not see any credible rumors regarding this.

It will be in the $500 range. With hardware costing around that area plus subsidized, they can do coding meme to make it 4k.
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>>379226005
This
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>>379226110
see
>>379226042

And PS4/XB1 not only had the same architecture for CPU (Jaguar), they had the same architecture for their GPUs (GCN 1.0).
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>>379218060
It was on the table to be sold off before Spencer stepped in and asked for a chance to salvage it, which they sort of did. But they definitely don't seem to know what identity they want their console to have. They've tried to make it every single thing ever.
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>>379226110
>console works different than a PC
Oh boy, here we go.
That magic "optimization" that we hear so much about that doesn't actually seem to exist.
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>>379212764
>Its gonna have the best versions of the multiplats
Nope, that's PC.
>a great online service
PC is better and it's free.
>and all your friends
Nope, PC again.

Sorry Xbro, 3 strikes and you're out.
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>>379226343
You're right of course. If you have four equal machines running the Scorpio OS, Windows 10, the linux variant of your choice, and whatever Apple has turned out lately, I'm sure they will all run the games equally well.
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>>379218789
Ah you can't find one either, eh anon?
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What's really baffling me is all the shills on these threads nowadays spreading hate on the Switch. I work at Best Buy and we get a shipment of like 10-20 in every other week, and I am not lying when I say that by the end of the business day on a random Tuesday when we put them out they will all be gone, if they even last until lunch time. It is a hella fun console, and consumers know it and want it.
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>>379225621
Nintendo Switch is artificial hype. In case you're new to gaming, it has been about hyping more power and better graphics for at least 30 years.
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>>379226670
It's just console wars. It's mostly shitposting with a couple of autists who think it's real mixed in.
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>>379226208
So tell me expert.
Why do you increase bandwidth if it has no effect.
Why are you increasing TFflops if something with less could do the same job?
Why are you increasing ram and clock speeds and optimize the API for DX12, Vulkan.
Why are you creating new custom 8 core CPU specifically designed for Scorpio?
Why are you creating a development kit for the Scorpio for devs to optimize their games for this console?

Please enlighten us why Microsoft would do all this if it has no effect.
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>>379226259
Spencer most be doing something right.
See image in this guy's post>>379210282
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>>379226775
The fuck are you talking about?
All I said is that bandwidth isn't the only thing that effects performance, which is true.
The Scorpio is working with 40 CUs, slightly more than the RX 580, but clocked lower, and a "custom" Jaguar CPU that's still going to be shit.
As for the rest, buzzwords used to trick morons like yourself into thinking that it's some new secret sauce that'll make the Scorpio "supercharged."
Same shit they pulled with the "power of the cloud" shit with the XB1, and you're still dumb enough to fall for it.
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>>379226343
>>379226775
it does exist, you are just mentally handicapped
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>>379227060
>and a "custom" Jaguar CPU
I keep hearing this on here but I've never heard a reputable source say it. Please link me to one if you have.
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>>379224871
>being a dumb frog poster
>being this >>379220957 angry took 20 seconds
>implying this is the only time
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>>379226817
*must and not that guy
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>>379227149
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-the-scorpio-engine-in-depth
>the CPU technology has been customised to the point where Microsoft doesn't refer to them as Jaguar architecture any more, but that is clearly the starting point from which the Project Scorpio design began.
https://youtu.be/RE2hNrq1Zxs?t=119
>Scorpio does indeed use an evolved version of the Jaguar core
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>>379227060
>All I said is that bandwidth isn't the only thing that effects performance, which is true.
Congratulations. But bandwidth in combination of the said above makes even more sense. See a pattern here.
>The Scorpio is working with 40 CUs, slightly more than the RX 580, but clocked lower, and a "custom" Jaguar CPU that's still going to be shit.
Have a (You) with your desperation
>As for the rest, buzzwords used to trick morons like yourself into thinking that it's some new secret sauce that'll make the Scorpio "supercharged."
it's more than just supercharged, no buzzwords used just the hardware compared to PCs
>Same shit they pulled with the "power of the cloud" shit with the XB1, and you're still dumb enough to fall for it.
Okay? What is your actual response next to this autism.
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>>379209676
There was this little game series called Halo that was popular once upon a time.
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>>379227494
>But bandwidth in combination of the said above makes even more sense.
In combination with what?
>it's more than just supercharged
Whatever you want to believe.
>What is your actual response next to this autism.
Not much but laughing, console gamers are always taken for a ride like this and you guys never seem to learn.
Except it's going to be worse since Xbox fans have a distinct level of desperation and delusion that makes Sony fans look competent.
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>>379210626
Why did you post a photo of the Dreamcast? You didn't have to use Seganet to play online, you could use your own ISP. It was nothing like Xbox live where it was network on top of a network.
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Looks like a VCR, which isn't a bad thing at all.
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>>379209676
In the first few years of the 360 and PS3 era the Xbox had a lot better online play. PSN was a mess.
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>>379218789

you need help dude
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>>379211454
Cheeky
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>>379227621
>In combination with what?
the 12GB GDDR5, the 2.3GHZ CPU, the massive Bandwidth, 6 TFlops of GPU power for example all this in combination with how the console is working different from PC.
>Whatever you want to believe.
Well I just told you twice in a row. The debate here is not about believing in something but the E3 presentation of it. The specs are already set.
>Not much but laughing, console gamers are always taken for a ride like this and you guys never seem to learn.
Except it's going to be worse since Xbox fans have a distinct level of desperation and delusion that makes Sony fans look competent.
So you are just upset about something like the Scorpio. I get it now. Stay mad I guess.
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>>379227927
No i don't. Switch is shitting it up all on it's own, no effort required.
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>>379228110
>the 12GB GDDR5, the 2.3GHZ CPU, the massive Bandwidth, 6 TFlops of GPU power for example all this in combination with how the console is working different from PC.
Okay, what about it?
What does "makes even more sense" even mean in this context?
>The debate here is not about believing in something but the E3 presentation of it. The specs are already set.
I'm not arguing about the specs, I'm arguing about the performance.
>So you are just upset about something like the Scorpio.
Kek, spoken like a true fanboy.
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>>379210867
It doesn't. Xfags seems more pissed to me.
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>>379223452
There trying to do what blizzard did with overwatch and go after esports since they make a lot of money
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WHERE IS FUCKING SCALEBOUND?
NEVER FORGET
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>>379208545
this is aesthetically pleasing. i hope the actual console is based around this
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>>379208596
>Don't care
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>>379228241
Not him but even if it was slightly worse than the best shit you can get on PC, it's still considerably cheaper.

It's not like they're trying to pull a Nintendo and sell really really really shit hardware at a huge premium profit while pretending it's next gen.

If your argument is "just game on PC" then it goes to say that most gamers have access to a PC already, and console gaming is cheaper outside of Nintendo products - but there is no point to that argument since most people have PC's but still game on consoles anyway.
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>>379228538
>Not him but even if it was slightly worse than the best shit you can get on PC, it's still considerably cheaper.
It's slightly worse than the mid-tier stuff on PC, that's my point.
It'd be one thing if they were bragging about amazing price-performance, but this isn't better than a $500 PC that cheaps out in the same areas.
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>>379215460
>>379215670
>>379216078
>VGchartz
Are you retarded nigger?
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>>379228538
Are you actually this butthurt the switch is doing alright? I always figured consolewars were just good natured ribbing, but holy shit you seem obsessed
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>>379228750
Again, post the more accurate data.
Until then, shut up.
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>>379228713
Last i checked it costs over $1500 for the CPU alone for a decent PC.
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@379228865
Ahh, you're baiting.
Fair enough, just let me know earlier on next time.
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>>379228775
>calls someone else butthurt while being butthurt
i bet you like hillary cause this is some backwards ass fuckin' projectionist bullshit you're pulling bro.
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>Microsoft announces the Scorpio
>Sony announces the Playstation 5

This is going to happen. Trust me.
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>>379208545
>this looks completely different from scropio

what the fuck does Scorpio look like
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>>379208545
Microsoft has been shit ever since it entered with Xbox. The only reason why Xbox360 had any lead was 3rd party didint like the PS3 architecture and it was a pain in the ass to make for it. Now that the shoe is on the other foot Microsoft is fucked.

Microsoft has no real 3rd party games and has no Japanese games that can save itself. Just bow out of the console market schills.
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>>379217480
>nintendo announces BOTW 5 years before it comes out
its ok when Nintendo does it
>Microshit announces Crackdown 3 3 years ago still not out
its ok when Microsoft does it
>microsoft announces scalebound 4 years ago and its coming out.....oh wait
Its ok when Microsoft does it.
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>>379209676
The Xbox is a PC for dummies. It's for kids who can't figure out how to install or setup games. It's also a lot cheaper so it's actually a good value vs a PC. There you go. Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest PC.
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>>379228994
>no u
Alright m8, but maybe get off /v/ for a while. Remember that nothing here is actually serious
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>>379228750
this retard is comparing a user base of ~60/100m steam users with comparable hardware to 29m xbox one users. if you do the math for software per console, the xbox wins by a big margin.
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>>379210908
lol anyone who has the Xbox One could do better and get a gaming pc. All the good shit is on there including PS3 titles. I dont get why they would cuck themselves unless they like Bill Gates Love Machine.
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>>379208620
Power is dead.
The regular, 300 dollars PS4 will kill the scorpio AND PS4 pro.
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>>379228241
>What does "makes even more sense" even mean in this context?
To put it simple for you abysmal retard: It will shit on any available console out there with the power of it alone. By hardware levels it is even powerful enough to be compared to some high end PC.
You started some autism about bandwidth not being the only thing that matters, I just told you again what is needed and should be taken into consideration to justify the comparison to a gtx 1070 or 1080. It's how the entire console works with the hardware.
>I'm not arguing about the specs, I'm arguing about the performance.
Yes and I'm responding to you retard the fouth time now explaining how the performance can be compared to a high end PC part.
>Kek, spoken like a true fanboy.
it's fanboyism now apparently. Go neck yourself. I'm already bored of your autism and lack of knowledge about anything regarding PC or Console.
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>>379229030
all of last year's best selling PS4 games are on xbox and sold lesser but still similar numbers. consoles aren't made for you, they're made for the 18-24 year old white guy who plays battlefield and sports and watches netflix and that's all their console does.
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>>379228469
>willingly showing support for a company that have willingly tried to walk all over you.
Falseflag or not.

Not even in the OS department Microsoft deserves to succeed right now. They are straight up cancer. The faster they shift their focus from gaming the better.

https://betanews.com/2017/03/01/windows-10-loses-share-again/
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>>379210941
>Runs better than most PC's
2,999$ US DOLLARS.
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>>379228998
They would be sony would be shooting themselves in the foot. They just released a new version of the ps4.
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>>379229096
Like clockwork
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>>379229145
Anyone who is buying a console period would do better with a PC, but consoles are made for the vegetables who fall for marketing and don't understand how a computer works.
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>>379229216
>18-24 year old white guy
>who plays battlefield and sports and watches netflix and that's all their console does.
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>>379214157
Even if the comparison video does show Scorpio to be better than PS4 Pro, PS4 Pro can easily drop their price to combat the Scorpio and they instantly win. Scorpio is just betting on power like Sony did in 2006 and are going to get fucked hard out of the console industry as a result.
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>>379229191
>It will shit on any available console out there with the power of it alone.
And I don't deny that so I fail to see why that's relevant to this argument.
>By hardware levels it is even powerful enough to be compared to some high end PC.
Ehh, nah, I can see it competing with an RX 580/1060, but a 1070 or similar hardware? No.
>I just told you again what is needed and should be taken into consideration to justify the comparison to a gtx 1070 or 1080
And based on those specs it will not compete with a 1070 or a 1080, since it's closer in specs to a 580 or 480.
>Yes and I'm responding to you retard the fouth time now explaining how the performance can be compared to a high end PC part.
You haven't explained anything actually, you're going on conjecture and making an assumption based on genuinely weak hardware.
You're just like the people who said the PS4 Pro would outperform a 1060 who were suddenly silent when an RX 470 performed better.
>and lack of knowledge about anything regarding PC or Console.
Pot, meet kettle.
Whatever anon, I can't wait to laugh on release just like with the PS4, the XB1, and the PS4 Pro.
The only console gamers who don't seem to be delusional about the power of their hardware are Nintendofags.
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>>379210941
If the hardware is fixed, the game will not run at 60 fps.
Since the dreamcast era, any game can be made to run at 60 fps, as long you're willing to sacrifice the visual quality a bit... but faggy art directors don't want you to have it, they think it looks like a "soap opera" and will bog down the hardware with piss filters until the developers have no choice but cap the game to 30 fps.
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>>379229268
>They would be sony would be shooting themselves in the foot.
Are you suggesting that Sony, as a company, is incapable of doing something fucking stupid?
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>>379229320
Consoles are focus designed for gaming and little else has to be accomdated for that would otherwise dramatically increase the price of a PC with similar performance specs. If you cant rationalize why video game consoles exist then maybe consider permanently migrating to >>>/g/
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>>379228865
No need to own the GTX Titan X to do 4K 60FPS, unless you want a 8K 30fps.
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>>379208767
haha u funny bro
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>>379209676
Dude i bought a 1,200$ PC and a nice 32 inch monitor and i swear to god it is beautiful. It runs every single game including new ones at 60FPS and above. It even runs the multiplats that are on Xbox One extremely well.

I have no fucking clue why they would miss out on the Steam sale savings especially when games reach 85% off and can save a shit ton of money.
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>>379229091
They key is not buying the "Latest and greatest PC" but to build your own and upgrade it over time. It may seem expensive but barring massive breakthroughs in technology, you wont need to upgrade in order to enjoy games. For example, if you pick up a 1070 GPU or its equivalent, it will be able to handle any game currently on the market and odds are, anything that comes out in the next 10 years. Same goes for a processor and RAM. a 4.0 GHz processor and 32 GB of RAM is some serious future-proofing.

Just don't fall for the meme of buying the newest graphics card because of a marginal increase in capability and most games wont even make use of and don't go for a new processor unless its a full GHz difference between the new and old.
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>>379228998
>then Microsoft will announce Xbox 3
>then Sony will annnounce Playstation 6
It's a never ending cycle until someone else enter the race.
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>>379229469
The scorpio is like 4 times better than the PS4pro across the gamut. It's actually a 9th gen console, a new generation.
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>>379210282
I like how it's Xbox, and not anything of the previous console. They probably know it's Xbox360 and not the One lol.
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>>379229216
>, they're made for the 18-24 year old
But recent LGBT, Black people pandering prove you wrong.
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>>379229816
>The scorpio is like 4 times better than the PS4pro across the gamut.
I think it's sad that you believe this.
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>>379229828
The Xbox brand.
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>>379229216
>Lesser but similar

Schill language for BTFO'D by PS4 and dominated up the ass. Why would any white adult or child want a Xbox One when they could have a better platform like Sony. Everyone shifted over to Sony. Besides the average adult likes weeb shit. Not generic Westerngame5000
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>>379229953
>But recent LGBT, Black people pandering prove you wrong.
Nah man, sports games are pretty old.
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>>379230034
I think you have to not know what numbers are to believe otherwise. You're kinda retarded man.
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>>379229816

Yeah I don't see dev staking the time to use its extra power to make games look better than the PS4 pro version.
>>
They said Scorpio won't have any exclusive titles. It's dead to me.
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>>379229816
>36 * 4 = 40
Really makes me think.
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>>379229760
Dude let me say this much you dont need all of that shit. A 1,000$ to 1,500$ PC can easily last ten years if not longer.
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>>379229469
>And I don't deny that so I fail to see why that's relevant to this argument.
if you wouldn't deny it then why are you crying like a bitch about the bandwidth alone?
>Ehh, nah, I can see it competing with an RX 580/1060, but a 1070 or similar hardware? No.
>And based on those specs it will not compete with a 1070 or a 1080, since it's closer in specs to a 580 or 480.
see >>379225215 and shut the fuck up.
>assumption based on genuinely weak hardware.
my fucking sides. Apparently Scorpio has weak hardware now. What are the other consoles then?
>PS4 Pro would outperform a 1060 who were suddenly silent when an RX 470 performed better.
irrelevant, I haven't mentioned mentioned the Ps4 Pro once
>Whatever anon, I can't wait to laugh on release just like with the PS4, the XB1, and the PS4 Pro.
I don't give a fuck what you laugh at. My point still stands about the performance and you outed yourself the 5th time as a abysmal retard.
>The only console gamers who don't seem to be delusional about the power of their hardware are Nintendo.
You are the only one delusional here. Nintendo was compared and hated on every living fuck on this planet from console to handheld to PC. Just neck yourself.
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>>379230041
Exactly thank you. The Xbox Brand not the Xbox One. Which is silly that is why they are trying to shove shiny Scorpio down everyones throat.
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>>379230219
Pro was a midgen upgrade over the PS4. Xbox One already had that with the Xbone S too.

We're still not in the same generation nignog. Scorpio is actually next gen.

In reality, I misspoke. It's 8 times better than a PS4 Pro, over 30 times better than a Switch. Even if it was just an Xbone S with a vulkan ready GPU specced similarly, it would almost double over performance of the Pro - but it isnt. It's considerably better base hardware on top of vulkan support to double performance even over that basic significant hardware upgrade.
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>>379230448
>if you wouldn't deny it then why are you crying like a bitch about the bandwidth alone?
Because you think bandwidth makes it more powerful than a 1070 or even anywhere near it.
>see >>379225215 and shut the fuck up.
Kek, and you go on to prove that you believe bandwidth makes it as powerful as a 1070.
It doesn't, the Scorpio's GPU is an RX 580 with 4 more CUs and a slight downclock, if you think that's going to compete with a 1070 then I don't know what to say.
And all the optimization in the world isn't going to pull more GPU power out of thin air.
>What are the other consoles then?
Extremely weak.
>irrelevant, I haven't mentioned mentioned the Ps4 Pro once
You argue just like the Sonyfags who argued for the Pro, before IT released people were making the same claims, that it'd be on par with a GTX 1070.
You console gamers just enjoy setting yourselves up for shitposting later on.
>My point still stands about the performance
It doesn't actually, you're an idiot who doesn't know anything about actual specs.
>Nintendo was compared and hated on every living fuck on this planet from console to handheld to PC
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
Jesus christ, are you an actual Pajeet? You type like a fucking 12 year old spic.
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>>379230579
>Even if it was just an Xbone S with a vulkan ready GPU specced similarly, it would almost double over performance of the Pro
This thread is fucking amazing.
Oh my god I fucking love this board so much.
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>>379230570
But it's mostly Xbox one since their "Windows 10 Xbox Play Anywhere" is too new to bring anything.
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>>379230579
for reference, the performance gap between Wii and 360/PS3 was 15x, and even then it still got shit for multiplat support on top of cementing the idea that doing so wasn't worth it, leading to the Wii U's lack of support.

Between that and the Switch now being 30x less powerful than the next gen, Switch is basically a leapfrog learning machine for toddlers that will primarily receive Nintendo and lower-tier indy games.
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>>379230579
Don't get me wrong, I'm an Xbox fan. I just do t see devs outside of marketing deals and first party taking the time to make the Scorpio version better than the PS4 pro version. I hope I'm wrong though.
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>>379230746
Vulkan is what DX12 wants to be. It's a sleight against microsoft sure, but Vulkan's potential for gaming is hand over fist a very important thing in gaming right now, equivalent to a generational hardware leap in API alone.
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>>379230579
> Even if it was just an Xbone S with a vulkan ready GPU specced similarly, it would almost double over performance of the Pro

lol the delusion of a 14 year old trying to justify the shitty purchase their parents made. Pro is much better than the S im sorry. And even then they have no support from Japan and not even the devolopers. Nobody wants to go on that platform when 60 million is already established by the PS4.
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>>379231204
Please god keep going, this is amazing.
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>>379230952
You're confused in thinking this, comparing the Scorpio to the PS4Pro. There is going to be a playstation 5, dude.
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>>379230952
PC games sell less but it has the better version of games. Why wouldn't scorpio.
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>>379230673
>Because you think bandwidth makes it more powerful than a 1070 or even anywhere near it.
>Kek, and you go on to prove that you believe bandwidth makes it as powerful as a 1070.

I explained to you why the other hardware components are important of the console. I never said the bandwidth alone makes it more powerful you mentally handicapped bastard.
>It doesn't, the Scorpio's GPU is an RX 580 with 4 more CUs and a slight downclock, if you think that's going to compete with a 1070 then I don't know what to say.
Of course not.
>And all the optimization in the world isn't going to pull more GPU power out of thin air.
that's why Xbox brought this dev kit for Scorpio, to pull even more out of it.
>Jesus christ, are you an actual Pajeet? You type like a fucking 12 year old spic.
You mentioned Nintendo and how everyone else is delusional, just neck yourself
You are tripping in your words and delusions trying to fit a straw to prove fuck all.
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>>379231273
you can use google and youtube from here on out actually. have fun.
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