Is it possible to have a comfy dungeon crawler thread?

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>>379196989
Smug rat is the best.

Also it's a shame that you can't port the monsters from the first one to the second one.

What's the point of the workshop or map editor, if you can't create new creatures to fight against.

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I fucking love this game.
>yfw Trickster's Lair

Why is Gun and Mage so weak.

>>379196989
Now you got me downloading it

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>>379199395
>yfw entering the teleporter at the top of the pyramid

>>379196989
Are 1 and 2 connected at all, or require being played in order? 2 looks like a lot of fun but idk if I want to go through 1

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>>379199918
>well a few zombies walked out of teleporter
>surely there's no more on the other siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-

>>379196989
this is one of those games that i really enjoy they exist (it looks good, the puzzles are great, gameplay is enjoyable), but I can't not drop them halfway through.

Gotta get back to finishing the first one

>>379199671
Gun yes, but mage? Battlemage has good defensive buff and crowd control, fire mage has a pretty solid ranged damage, frost mage can CC quite well.
Never tried an earth mage though.

>>379200214
>Are 1 and 2 connected at all
no
>or require being played in order?
no
>2 looks like a lot of fun
yes it is
>but idk if I want to go through 1
WHY NOT

>>379199671
Mage is strong.
>Gun has miss fired.

>>379196989
The game is flawed because for some reason the devs wants to add more "action" to their combat by emphasizing some of the most stupid elements of traditional dungeon crawlers. It's retarded that you have to dance awkwardly around enemies and click on tiny corners of your screen quickly to launch your attacks in time. That's not action that's just autism.
If I wanted action I would have it with some sane controls, not on top of a retro dungeon crawler. Necrodancer does it 100000 times better.

>>379200347
Grimrock 2 is very easy to get lost and forget your current goal.
The first isnt that bad, just keep going deeper.

>>379200483
I don't have the most time in the world to be playing games, I'd rather just see what the buzz is about by playing the (what I assume to be) superior title of the series. And if I really really like it I can just go back and play 1

Alright I got 3 essence and I'm done with sewers. Am I close to the end?

>>379200883
2 isnt really any better then 1. They're different.

Might & Magic 6>Wizardry 7>Grimrock 2>Wizardry 8>Ultima Underworld

No other dungeon crawlers come close

I liked Grimrock Series. I dropped both game games just before the end for some reason, but I enjoyed them up till that point. I may have finished the second one, I'm not sure.

But I do love the claustrophobic and small scaled environments and most of the gameplay sensibilities. I wished they would took it a little further though. More complexity, more simulationist elements, more adventure elements.

>>379201237
Any good mods for M&M6 for best experience on modern systems?

grimrock 1 + 2 were GOTY material for me. Shame the devs have moved on so we probably won't see a 3rd

anyone played starcrawlers?

>>379200405
>Never tried an earth mage though.
Earth magic in both games is more-or-less not viable. Mostly due to most enemies being flat out immune to poison damage and the rest being resistant to it. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with that class of magic, especially when they didn't even try to fix it int he sequel.

They should just scrap the poison theme, relegate it to a single poison cloud spell, and change everything else into spells like boulder throwing, rock armor, slowing mud, or what the fuck ever.

>>379201774
What are the devs doing now? It's a shame that they dont continue it.

>>379202102
A procedural generated, single character, isomeric, turn based rpg; it's called Druidstone.

>>379202102
some of them are working on http://druidstone-game.com/media

grimrock is pretty cool. i prefer turnbased tho. combat and juggling potions and throwables feels way too chaotic to me, even more so during boss fights

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>>379202305
>>379202368

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>>379202305
>procedural generated
DOA

>>379201774
At least they have workshop support. People make custom campaigns that are basically an entire game. I don't understand why someone would spend so much time making something they can't profit from, though.

>>379202579
Game design portfolio

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>>379196989

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>>379201973
I feel earth was better in 2 since outside of the pyramid and maybe one other area most other enemies were living and thus could be poisoned

still pales in comparison to fire or ice though but even earth isn't as shit as guns are
>limited ammo
>good guns come super late compared to other weapons
>damage not even remarkably higher than throwing weapons/bows
>chance to misfire

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>>379202686
Using an already existing game, its assets, and level editor isn't really something to brag about. It's way better to just make your own game.

I don't even want to know how much time this guy spent making this.

>>379203045
if only there was some system to pay mod makers like this, so they could be rewarded for their efforts and encouraged to make more

>>379203045
Well sometimes you just don't care for the money and you design a game because it's fun

>>379202428
how much of a grandpa do you have to be to think that grimrock plays too fast

>>379203045
>Using an already existing game, its assets, and level editor
What do you think professional game designers do? Learning how to develop on an existing platform is half the job.

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>dungeon crawling is a dead fucking genre
Hold me, lads.

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Yo. Fuck those. Also fuck those Air Elementals.

>>379203483
i just want to play with a touchpad, shitsux

>>379203843
it's not really. Starcrawlers just came out and Skullstone is coming along, to name a couple

>>379203998
Starcrawlers is okay, but it feels like a weird, grindy JRPG at times.

>>379200883
>>379201113
Ignore this doof, 2 is much much better than 1. Just play 2.

>>379203843
There's still plenty dungeon crawlers being released. Just that they're also weeb games.

>>379203998
Shame Starcralwers look like ass. Which is not to say that it's a bad game (I haven't played it), just that it looks ugly. Such a terrible dull art style.
One of the things that Grimrock (especially the first one) did so well was the visual presentation and atmosphere. Starcrawlers really look ugly, generic and tasteless.
Hopefully the gameplay makes up for it.

>>379203843
There is tons of DRPGs coming out literally all the time.

>>379203843
Buy a Vita(TV). It has hundreds.

What's your favorite FATE, /v/?

>>379196989
I never got around to finishing grimrock 1, should I just jump to 2?

>>379197271
You kind of can, but it's not easy.

>>379200405
>>379200502

Go play the Magic of Grimrock 2 mod in the workshop then. Full main game (no achievements if you're one who likes that), plus literally dozens of new spells. Plus some effective returns of some old ones.

Can't believe how bad Missile weapons had it since 2.

>>379200483>>379204628

They are loosely connected, same universe, just different locations.


2 Is more open world esque in that many locations are open to you after you kill the first boss, then you just work your way around.

>>379204628
Yes, it's a way better game.

>>379204628
Why not. I though the ending of Grimrock 1 was awful and also skipped. The two games have barely any relationship story-wise too.

If you can't pull through the last few levels of Grimrock (which I don't blame you) just skip to the other one.

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I recently got a copy of Elder Scrolls Arena on GOG.

Does it hold up well enough to be played today?

>>379204775
I've finished Grimrock 1 and I think the last few levels are alright. I also liked the atmosphere there. Was really spooky.
Is there any scary dungeon crawler out there?

>>379205448
Nope, it's complete trash

Don't play Daggerfall either, it's even worse

>>379203843
Grimoire will be here within the week, if you believe Cleve and his lies.

>>379205614
>I've finished Grimrock 1 and I think the last few levels are alright
I think it was the very last level that for some reason utterly lost me. I enjoyed everything up to that point but that just... I don't know. I just suddenly lost any urge to see it through. I think I felt like there was nothing more to explore, and suddenly the more tedious aspects of the game started annoying me.
I did watch the final boss fight (which seemed underwhelming to me) and the outro, and it did not felt like I missed out on anything.

Don't get me wrong though, I still like the game and I'll happily recommend it to anyone.

>>379205448
Not really, I'm afraid. Especially if you ever played other similar games like Dungeon Master, Shadows over Riva, Lands of Lore, Avadon, Stonekeep, Ultima Underworld or Might and Magic.
Arena is really kinda fucking unremarkable as a game.

Daggerfall is... at least more interesting technically, with it's insane scope and size, but still. It's clunky as fuck, suffers serious feature bloat (which is funny, considering how the series ended up...) The mechanics did not age well and while the lore is superb, the actual world as you explore it is as generic and lifeless as it gets. It did set the foundations of what would make Morrowind great, but it's not a must-play game as far as I'm concerned.

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After playing Grimrock I would highly suggest this

>>379206778
This box art makes it seem like a good game.

>>379203045
> journey to justice
Can't find it on the workshop

>>379204709
Grimrock 1 is much more focused and atmospheric. Discovering the mystery's of the spooky dungeon as you try not to starve is great.

Grimrock 2 to is a mishmash of environments loosely held together with temples. Enemies respawn so you never run out of food. You can spend hours wandering the outside world trying to figure out where to go next.

>>379206863
It is in my top 5, like the game just flew under everyone's radar.
The way it plays takes some getting used to but after that it is great. For 20 bucks or if you can find a rom go at it.

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anyone else play this?

>>379207007
>Enemies respawn so you never run out of food
Snails in 1 were much more generous.

>>379207007
>Grimrock 1 is much more focused and atmospheric. Discovering the mystery's of the spooky dungeon as you try not to starve is great.
Yeah, this was my issue with the second game, actually. While I found it mechanically much more fun, I just did not like the environments. The first game felt consistent, atmospheric, mysterious, foreboding.
Grimrock 2 felt cartoony, lacking in atmosphere, very game-y and generic. I still enjoyed it, but to me it lacked any atmosphere, which was the thing I enjoyed the most about the first game.

>>379207007
That is what I felt after playing Grimrock 2 for several hours, I couldn't get into it like 1.

>>379207281
Yes, it's awesome. It's a very simple and short game but it really carries that light-hearted, silly M&M fun in it. I would recommend

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I just started Stranger of Sword City.
Seems alright

>>379207789
yeah I liked it too but some parts were a bit annoying as fuck.
like that one rat? dude who betrays you (totally expected)

>>379206778
>made by falcom
>the people who made Ys
They literally have no idea what game design is.

>>379201237
Stonekeep is better balanced than all these.

>>379196989
Fuckin loved both LoG 1 and 2.
The idea of one large dungeon appealed more to me though.

Also what is best ending for the second game in your opinion guys?

>>379197271
Fucking rat bastards.
2 humans,1 minotaur and 1 insectoid is the best combjnation.

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Dark Spire always gets mentioned in those threads since it was kinda overlooked thanks to Etrian Odyssey

>>379204112
1 is also really good though.

>>379208537
>Humans
Only thing humans are good for is mages and even that is done better by insectoids. Rats at least you can turn into stat monsters in the long run though the real master race is lizards.

>>379208053
It's alright, enjoy your 60 y/o MC

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>>379208178
here is a little thing I put together, I really like the style of it, over the shoulder dungeon crawler. Simple but effective combat

>>379204707
Two and one take place in 100% the same location at different times.

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>>379208920
Thanks but I think I pissed off the elfslut.
I haven't given her any crystals yet except for the mandatory one and she looks pissed in that crystal/skill menu

>>379208763
I don't try to min max desu, only did it a bit by making a minotaur barbarian and insectoid mage.
I just liked this setup more and generally things went ok.
Only trouble I had was with the first canon rat and the last boss.

>>379209332
How did you get to that?
I thought grimrock was built to keep the undying one away while the island nexus was to keep the word of creation safe.

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Beat this one recently, would highly recommend if you have a 3ds.
Honestly one of the most generic games I have ever played and yet I loved it.

>>379209523
yeah, same here. It does look like some of the architecture for the Mount Grimrock Dungeon was designed on the Isle of Nex.

>>379209523
Not that guy, but I remember you could find a cube in the desert.

>>379209762
That could be.
Maybe the keepers of island nex ordered grimrock.
I really liked the lore of both games desu it seems the world has renaissance tier technology with guns and bombs.
Too bad we won't get a third game.

>>379209762
If you get the right ending you can find another cube sitting in the treasure room.

>>379209374
Im not even sure if minotaur into barbarian is all that min maxy. Like its really good still but in the long run a barbarian rat with mutations and cheese eating might get better stat gains.

>>379210408
Don't rats just have higher dex?

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>tfw no Grimrock 3 with playable Avian race

>>379210510
Yeah something like that. The point is to mainly use the plentiful cheese and mutation perk to eventually get better stats than everyone else. Minotaur will still probably out damage the rat with skulls or something though. Ive never put much research if the meatshield rat is worth it.

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>>379203843
grid based dungeon crawlers are fine

dungeon crawlers like underworld/arx fatalis are dead as fuck though.

>miss
>miss
>1damage
>1damage
>22damage
>miss
>miss
>144damage(crit)

What the hell. It's always like this.

>>379210787
>>tfw no Grimrock 3
ftfy
they are not makin another one

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Anyone else play Doom RPG? Might and Magic style dungeon crawlers where you can see the enemy ahead of time are my favorite.

>>379212252
Why not. They atleast made 300k sales with the sequel. That's alright.

>>379209523
You can find the undying ones corpse in two, and the mountain is gone at the end of one. It's the same place with two taking place countless ages after the first. There's a few more hints but I can't remember them right now.

>>379212252
>>379212558
They're working on a different game called Druidstone. It's a top-down CRPG from the looks of it.

>>379212558
yeah but the company dissolved and a sub-team banded together to make some procedurally generated top down rpg

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>>379200271
>make my way to the side, find a tunnel and a save crystal
>cleaning up the zombos, feeling pretty smug about my master plan
>mfw he's a big guy

>>379212676
But this looks like it's going to be forgetable and even slower.

>>379196989
Gonna shill this game..

http://store.steampowered.com/app/409450/The_Fall_of_the_Dungeon_Guardians/

because I never see it mentioned here and is very similar to grimrock but with a far better combat system

>>379204359
only if you really like shitty jrpg combat

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>>379212956
>but with a far better combat system

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Anyone play DT2? I really liked it but it seems there's a big feud between DT2 and the EO series so it doesn't really get talked about. Having played both, I like DT2 more and really hope DT2-2 gets localized. Any other games that tie physical/elemental resistances to status effects? Thought it was a neat mechanic.

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>>379212956
>worse LoG in everything with WoW combat
Sorry for being mean but holy shit.

>>379212956
>better combat

I mean I haven't played it, but looking at the footage, it sure doesn't seem like it.

>>379213251
>>379213408
>>379213496
you guys seriously over-rate grimrocks combat

>>379212138
Isn't a new Ultima Underworld in development?

>>379196989
I wish some things in Grimrock 2 were in M&M Legacy X and I wish some things in M&M Legacy X were in Grimrock 2 especially the turn based

>>379213280
>it seems there's a big feud between DT2 and the EO series

What

Etrian Odyssey is dead.
and we've killed it.

>>379214895
The fifth game just came out last year, and a new spinoff is coming out later this year

>>379215083
>in Japan

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>yfw

>>379212795
Too many people didn't like the combat. I guess it had too much clicking and making use of the room to bottleneck enemies wasn't engaging enough

>>379215172
And?

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>>379215265

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>>379214895
Have hope.

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beep beep best dungeon crawler coming right through

>>379215996
That's not Wizardry VI.

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>>379215265

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>>379216051
That's right, it isn't.

>>379215595
>>379215812
Say bye bye to EO.
Kimono >>>> Sarashi

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Does this count?
I still havent finished it

>>379216385
I loved LoG1/2 but I really disliked this game. +
It's like taking all those bad things of LoG2 like conditions and make it x10.

>>379216385
I liked it but it was more like a dungeon crawler light

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>>379215265
I thought it was fine once I started clearing out the mummies and had some room to breathe.

Then I noticed the golems.

>>379216385
I wouldnt count it as a dungeon crawler. I'd call it a JRPG mentally-ill-haram gambling simulator with nice artwork.

>>379213280
DT2 is a much better game than anything EO has to offer.

Would we count La-Mulana as a dungeon crawler or some kind of fucked up metroidvania with crawler traps and shit?

>>379213280
>DT2
Shame it's too weeb for me. Make them look more adult and maybe Ill touch this game.

>>379217432
no you fucking ding dong

>>379217591
so which one dong ding?!

>>379213280
I'd play it, but it's a Vita game so

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>switched to linux
>they didn't bother to port Grimrock 2
At least I escaped the Microsoft jew

>>379219470
>switched to linux
Why did you do that. CIA n*ggers don't exist anon.

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>>379216385
If you've ever wondered what that would be like as a turn based tactical rpg try Mordheim: City of the Damned.

>>379214824
Well, anytime DT2 is brought up in an EO thread, shit goes south quick.

>>379217546
Yeah, the art and especially some of the tropey characters could be annoying, but the gameplay grew on me so I don't care as much

>>379208578

this game had a GOAT atmosphere

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>>379219470
>he fell for the linux meme

>>379222526
>>379219470
Some mistakes and you will end up like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcqWok8AubE

>>379218589
La-Mulana is an adventure/exploration game.

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The Rat boss's lair in LoG2 is fucking with me.
If I stay in a corner like others recommend, the boss will eventually come face-to-face with me because I can't escape quick enough.

>>379203843
>Etrian Odyssey is dying because the Switch is replacing the 3DS
Anon, I...

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>>379224739
Unlock the door and fight him in the tunnels, then.

>>379212201
This is LoG2 for me. I even have a good amount of accuracy, but that doesn't stop it.

Pirated the first game while it was on sale, loved it, but it left sale by the time I was going to buy it. Still bought it and the 2nd game anyway. I couldn't find 1 of the keys or whatever in the first bigger area though and didn't ant to resort to a guide so I topped playing it. Love the games though

>>379200214
1 and 2 are only "connected" through an elaborate Easter Egg, but their stories have nothing to do with one-another and both can be experienced without the other.

>>379222686
>posting internet aristocuck instead of terry's own vids
fag

>>379225169
It's possible to telefrag him if you lure him to below a ladder and drop on him just right.
You get no exp, but if you don't care about it then go on ahead.
Admitedly it's not as simple as just dropping on him, you have to time it just as he's is moving onto the tile, otherwise he just gets pushed.

>>379196989
Recently picked up Starcrawlers.

Haven't ever played a dungeon crawler before so I started on medium and that was a poor decision since I've only been under half HP about 3 times and I'm already progressed pretty far into it.

Too late to start fresh though, honestly the game feels really shallow and a bit too easy (my difficulty tho). Is it just the game or does it encapsulate dungeon crawlers pretty well.

>>379225169
Whoa, that's exactly what I needed. Many thanks.

>>379213629
Dude. The second video starts with a 40 seconds fight of the player and the enemy (singular) standing in place slugging it like it's an MMO, complete with basic spells being channelled.

That's just bad.

>>379215265
That's a decent bit of xp. I'm just saying.

>>379225878
No dungeon crawlers are supposed to be dense with puzzles and secrets.

>>379206156
Daggerfall was fucking god tier back in the 90's when it came out.

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Post hubs?

>>379227342
I just scattered some random junk and Wilson in there