FFXIV: Shillblood

Post your achievement score and what you're working on right now

Have we fixed healers yet?

game a shit

Cheapest place to pre-order SB?

>>379197092
the internet

>>379197092
GMG

>>379196287
I just started this do I just do MSQ?

Why did every class need a full rework? Sure HW and ARR weren't perfectly balanced, but outside of speed runs, everything was viable. PLD, MNK, and WHM could clear all of creator and had been doing so early on. Now that everything is being reworked, we risk the chasm being widened to the point where some rules might not actually be viable

>>379197375
Yes.

So i just came back after not playing a few months.
Is it useless to do the anima now? Will it be useless when Stormblood is out?

>>379197092
greenmangaming has stormblood up for $35, even cheaper if you're a VIP member.

How is FFXI these days? A few buddies of mine are interested.

>>379197465
Relic weapon was, is, and always will be a huge waste of time.

>>379197092
Steam if you are russian, brazilian, or indian.

>>379197465
if you're just starting the anima quest, no point in doing it now unless you really want it for glamour.

>>379197520
still dying but not shut down yet.

>>379197436
Because the devs were too lazy to deal with making content for the full range of player skill and decided it would be easier to just shrink the range of skill

is it worth buying if Ive never played ff online before?

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So close yet so far.

>Lily proc chance increased to 100%

Knee jerk buffs ahoy

>>379197826
I don't know, anon. What are your tastes in video games? I can't read your mind.

>>379197826
there's a free trial. if you like the trial, buy it. if you hate the trial, uninstall and move on with your life.

>>379197923
He said only for cure II, and that's both garbage and still irrelevant because weak spear is not a reward.

>>379197826
Play the trial first see if you like the game. There's alot of single player content when you first start out and you'll have to track your way through the story from both ARR and HW before you touch stormblood - unless you pay to skip it once Stormblood is out.

Either way, definitely pick up the trial since it's free and give yourself some time to get a feel for the ropes of the game before you make a decision.

>>379197961
I was into wow years, used to love mmos, dont really have alot of time anymore to play any vidya cause I work 60 hours a week. Right now my backlog is P5, Nioh, Nier Automata, Yakuza Zero. Sadly I end up playing dota most of the time with my friends cause I have a few hours inbetween shifts,

>>379197465
relics are literally always useless don't waste your time

>>379198071
This game is the most casual MMO ever made, so you'll have no problems there.

>>379197520
You can low man anything you want, and level to 99 fast. Theres a Job Points grind at the end though. I jumped back into the game Dec-Feb and di everything that I wanted to.

>>379198071
Well, you're in luck. FFXIV is very story driven and can be done mostly with playing by yourself. Catching up to other people gear-wise is also not too hard.

>>379198163
I wouldn't call em useless entirely. They're still best in slot for some jobs right now, especially since Diadem is dead as fuck right now so nobody can obtain a ilvl 285 weapon anymore. Also, you can use the final relic to skip the first step for the next relic.

>lillies dont proc after every healing gcd
>lillies dont increase the flat potency of all spells, healing and damage alike

how do you fuck up this badly

>>379198179
Pretty sure WoW post wrath is more casual

>>379198394
Nobody cares about WHM.

Let's say I macro myself a LoV crystal rush. What's the toughest fight you can beat with just zerging?
I'm asleep while this is happening so it needs to be constant.

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>Cure 2 lilly procs buffed into 100%
Woah, so this is the power of 200 pages of tears...

>>379198265
They're useless because it's an incredibly small increase over an i270/i275 weapon, and spending dozens of hours grinding now won't save you that much time in SB's relic.

>>379197573
>>379198163
So what is the best weapon for AST if not anima?

>>379198465
I still do, but I'll play ast anyways because right now there's literally no appeal to whm now that it's becoming rng like ast. at least ast has ways to counter it with their new card burn for 300 damage potency

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>>379197909
>get enough MGP to buy a Fenrir
>someone shows me that 4.0 primal mount will be a wolf
I guess I will save the cash to buy some new Gold Saucer item in 4.X.

I regret gearing up my BLM yesterday, the jobis too boring.

Should I buy the ffxiv complete collection or wipeout omega?

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>Buff lily proc
>lilies are still useless
Whats the point?

>>379198595
it's still best in slot and being able to skip a fate grind is a gigantic plus. RNG is literally not on your side when doing fate grinding before any relic step nerfs.

>>379196287
>edition
Is this the new epic falseflag to get these threads deleted?

>>379198902
devs prove once again they dont play their own game

>>379198490
Wait what? That's it?
Damn I will give a WHM a hug after this, they deserve after this shitshow

>>379198902
how do you make lilies useful without removing them or making them aetherflow WHM edition

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>>379199038
>Make Lillies have a substantial boost to healing
>Tie their generation to DPS abilities

>>379199038
make them controllable (an ability that buffs the next OGCD heal or lets you benis).
there, fucking fixed

Why make the proc guaranteed though? WHM was fine as it was.

>>379199152
Then they wont be a pure healer if you encourage dps.

>>379199038
this>>379198394 would be a start. now you can min max having 3 lilies uptime to do more dps, or healing if its absolutely necessary. similar to ast being able to burn their shitty cards for dps or heals. whm only having one use(barely) for lilies now is why it sucks so bad

>>379199152
>Needing even more healing for whm, when both healers can do that AND buff the shit out of their party
No, more healing is not needed.

>>379199247
Good.

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>>379199028
Do they really? Barring a few exceptions it seems like WHMs deserve to suffer. I mean, most of them don't even really care about healing anyway, so nerfing their healing doesn't really affect them since all they want to do is spam Holy.

>>379199247
>pure healer
stop this meme, they have damage spells, and assize literally does both at once. they are no more of a pure healer than ast

>>379199251
>No, more healing is not needed.
Well then there's nothing they're going to do to aid their role as healers. Scrap'em.

>>379199038

make them proc off regen ticks

make one of the new skills into a damage ability that eats one lilly each

>>379198394
WHM already does the most DPS of all the healers, buffing that more would make it fucking broken you inbred

>>379197520
I started playing it this month. Have been able to solo everything so far thanks to trusts (summon NPCs as party members). I want this in XIV.

Come up with a new job right now. Be specific. Explain their gameplay quirk and how they would fit in a party.

>>379199250
>>379199232
>>379199152
>>379199038
Yoshida went on livestream recently to say:
>"The build shown at the media tour is from late April, so around a whole month old by the time the info was released, a lot of other things have changed since. Please read the patch notes when they become available on our official FF14 website or when we read them live at E3"

So basically don't take lilies and all of Stormbloods changes as 100% fact yet. Anything can change including potency amounts, proc chances, and effects.

>Spells that utilize lilies provide a 1/2/3% haste buff to effected members if its AoE, or 2/4/6% if it was used on a single target skill based on how many lilies were used
>Confession stacks on players provide 1/2/3% mitigation, and absorbing them with Plenary Indulgence provides a haste buff to anyone with Confession on them

>>379199241
So that players have some control over the procs so they can actually use their Benis when it would be useful.

The plot with the Ivy (the flames imperial spy) confuses me a little

Did the monetarists purposely direct Ilberd to expose Ivy because she was blackmailing them in the first place?

>>379198956
O wow u got me :(. I can't even imagine how shit a person would have to be to leave 60 waifu and /pol/ threads up but delete the ones actually about video games

I'm retarded, can somebody briefly explain how BRD's new song system works?

>>379199467
Sounds like damage control, isn't the game out in a week? they would have to finalize everything long before that point

>>379199371
SCH has damage spells too but they're not considered a pure healer. WHM is classified as pure healer because they aren't intended to damage. Hence why your lilies don't do shit to your damage spells.

>>379199407
WHM could have 500 potency damage nukes that cost 0 mp and it still wouldn't beat the contribution a single aoe balance from AST.

healer DPS is going to be gutted anyways after cleric stance changes so the personal dps meme will weigh even less than it did for MNKs for all of HW.

>>379199467
this means nothing. theyre gonna do some last minute knee jerk buffs that won't fix anything.

So how do you feel about YosiP admitting that discussions of a Switch port are still ongoing and it's something he'd like to see happen?

Are you all ready for Switch limitations?

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When can we remove Yoshi? Need fresh ideas.

What's your ping since the server move /v/?

>>379199738
nothing is finalized until early access is pushed to everyones game client.

remember when they showed off DRK having a fire aura like 30 days before heavensward launch? then heavensward launch came out and it was gone?

>>379199729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ydgbpEKlI

>>379199816
>and it still wouldn't beat the contribution a single aoe balance from AST.
Then nerf AST you fucking babies

>>379199683
but wouldn't she in turn incriminate them under interrogation?

>>379199834

>What's your ping since the server move /v/?

10ms

>>379199837
oh, I wasn't playing at the time so I had no idea. Guess that's that. We'll see in early access then

>>379197812

To be fair. Midcore is a frustrating level of player to design for. By the standard of the devs and have touched an extreme fight or leveled more than 1-2 classes to endgame, you are what they define as Hardcore to begin with. Midcore players who themselves describe themselves as midcore, despite spending hundreds of hours into the game, seem to always use it as an excuse as to why they can't clear the most difficult content. Try designing content for people who refuse to accept that they're incapable of finishing all content, who think that all content too difficult is overtuned and therefore not worth doing, yet at the same time think 24 mans and dungeons are not satisfying enough for their undeserved ego. That's what "midcore" players are.

>>379199886
They already said they wouldn't and that 20% balance is perfectly fine and reasonable, so all you can do is fix WHMs terribly designed gimmick.

>>379199971
They also showed off stuff at E3 which was like a week before Heavensward launched and things were different between even those builds, most notable Tornado Kick.

>>379199834
>What's your ping since the server move /v/?
~18ms

>>379200046
Nice then SCH will be useless
Excellent plan

>>379197506
Isn't VIP membership just basically being logged in?

>>379199886
AST should feel good about offering powerful buffs to help their party, SCH should feel like true tacticians on the battlefield, and WHM should feel confident about being the pure healer it has always been.
Don't try to change this dynamic.

>>379200303
it already is, didn't you see the noct stance changes?

>>379199738
if I can recall, they are still in the end stages of testing their savage raids. the feedback they receive from their testers shapes what gets buffed or nerfed for classes right before release.

>>379199454
I'd like to have some kind of Beastmaster/Orator job but just like with Blue Mage, I don't see how it could work in this game.

>>379200312
I don't know, I don't shop at GMG. I just heard this stuff from a friend.

>>379200401

3.05 was pretty lackluster though. I don't think MCH was touched until 3.2. AST/BLM/DRG just got some QoL changes and there was a TP use reduction across the board in 3.1. Otherwise, MCH and AST were only balanced in 3.2.

>>379200023
midcore is such a grey area that its hard to really take many people seriously when they claim to be midcore. Some people like to use it to say they are good at the game, but don't raid for server first prog which is really just them trying to stroke their ego because thats probably not the case.

Personally I place it all around time spent tackling content. I consider midcore groups to be players who spent an adequate amount of time raiding, even if they are shit at the game. somewhere around 3-4 days a week for 3+ hours. Hardcore players are the 16 hours a day raiders who actually clear week 1,2, ect, while casual either dont even have a static, or if they do raid, its something really unoptimal like 2 days a week.

So by this logic, you can be in a casual group and still have a solid group, while "midcore" players spend hours wiping over and over and each one of them is thinking "im the only good player here" when they are all shitters because the casual groups are getting more prog than them.

>>379200603
I have beastmaster perfectly envisioned in my mind right now and it completely works with FFXIV but there's one problem...micromanaging pets would be too difficult for controller players

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>>379200337
>AST should be buffed even harder, SCH should always be king of off-healing and WHM should stay obsolete in current content
>all this because "m-muh job identity"

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Boy am I looking forward to 6 hours of PotD instead of being stepped on.

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>>379200807
>6 hours
>tfw only 50% armor bonus
>tfw 10 hours of potd

>>379200807
>only 6 hours
>implying shitters will be half decent enough with the new jobs to clear that fast
enjoy 20hours of palace

>>379200915
They buffed armory bonus on release of HW and they probably will do it again. Otherwise RIP ecksdee lmao lul kek

>>379200807
>PotD
Just do fates and battleleves while queuing for dungeons like always. PotD just make you get burned out super fast.

>>379200753
I'm interested, so would you care to elaborate on how it could work? I can totally see controllers being an issue though.

>>379200381
>>379200303
SCH is on the ropes along with WHM. If not for their crit buff they would get replaced by a WHM interchangeably. If WHM gets any kind of last second group buff its over.

>>379200693
Pretty much this. Midcore is a clusterfuck of people who can't raid hardcore due to time commitments and try hards who use midcore as an excuse because they couldn't make it in a hardcore static. There is usually always 1 or 2 guys who think they are better than group and cause drama.

>thread is autosaging
MODS

>>379201094
>not going double ast for twice the balance and gcd critlos
lmao

whats the catch with GMG SB pre-ordering? If you can get it cheaper for doing nothing but signing in, why does it even exist on the SE store for normal price?

>>379201070
>Just do fates and battleleves while queuing for dungeons
This is literally less effective per time.

>>379198605
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Level_60_Gear_Progression

>>379197092
cdkeys and Instantgaming usually dont give problems, 20-25 there

>>379201153
Don't put "Edition" in the OP next time.

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lalafell master race

If whitemage com0lain loud enough to make some tweak. I wonder if i cam get summomers to complain 10x the loudness, they might have chance to be to buff to the strongest dps. Lets do this SMN bros

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Don't do drugs and title your thread like a general, kids.

>>379198394
>overhealing doesn't turn the overflowing healing into damage onto enemies.

>>379201271
Master of none*

Fuck, I dont know if I want to go MCH or SMN. MCH has nice sounds and animations, SMN has nice animations and bahamut summon, but sort of braindead

>>379198394
>Make it so lilies increase your healing and damage passively based on how many you have
>Using them up places haste on everyone in the party for a duration based on how many you used up

>>379201348
4.0 whm had more complains than titan hm, amdapor keep, 2.0 war, 3.0 ast, mch, pld combined together

IF YOU'RE BELOW 50 PING WHY ARE YOU EVEN PLAYING FOR THIS GAME, HOLY SHIT JUST FUCK OFF.

>>379201391
Wish they could implement a mechanic like this, beyond stuff like Assize and Earthen Star. Would allow "pure healer" WHMs to live out their fantasies while contributing loads of damage.

>>379201120

>I'm midcore but I play 12 hours a day
>working on Creator, 90% done with a12s~, only took a month

>>379201381

cute bird

>>379201581
I MEAN IF YOU'RE ABOVE 50...

>BLM can now effectively never lose Enochian throughout AOE
>SMN got Bane nerfed
>RDM AOE is a 100 potency spammable

What the fuck who actually balances this

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>>379199834
100

>>379201708
>Why arent all jobs perfectly the same at everything? Why do people have to specialize?

>>379201081
I want to see Beastmaster as a new tank job. It would be cool to see a pet based tank job, since we already have SCH/SMN as pet based healing and dps jobs.

You could control various pets like one pet is dedicated to tanking, another is your single target DPS pet, and there could also be a AoE DPS pet. The beastmaster character doesn't tank himself, but his pets do. The beastmaster augments the pets abilities using weaponskills and abilities, these effects range from mitigating additional damage or deal more damage. The goal of beastmaster as a tank is to micromanage your pets to use cooldowns and position properly to tank bosses properly, while you wham on the enemy with your dual-wielded axes. Basically, the beastmaster plays like a DPS and supports their beasts as their pets tank.

Like I said I'm not sure exactly how well this job will work for controller users, as it sounds very micromanagement reliant for keyboard+mouse players. Not to mention how broken it can be if someone is really good at micromanagement and cooldown usage. We're talking about next level sacrifice strats for mechanics.

>>379201792
But BLM is going to be topping aoe and single target unless theres a SAM.

>>379201792
Tell that to WHMs

>>379201840
Good, that's how it should be.
SMN is for the lazy faggots.

>>379201840
>and single target
Doubt.

>>379199729
you hit the target for a smallish amount of damage and give everyone around you a small crit buff, there's no difference between the songs in that respect
what changes between songs is how you benefit from your dots critting. army's gives you a stacking buff that does a bunch of shit, mage's is the current bloodletter reset business, wardens gives you stacks that you can spend on a new ogcd damage thing
they're all on a 30 second timer with 80 second recast so you can keep one or the other up 100% of the time
also there's some groupwide defensive(i think, the tooltips are weird)buff that changes with what song you use it with

>>379201962
What are you, some kind of gaylord that needs other peoples buffs to do damage?

>>379199817
They need a scapegoat for their lazy development practices so it's not like it would make much a difference.

>>379201974
BRD seems very bard-like now. I might even pick it up.

>>379201974
Alright thanks. I just have ask though, the job didn't get dumbed down did it?

>>379199817
they've been discussing an xbox one port for years now and still nothing has come of it. they're not going to develop for any other platform unless there's a real financial incentive for them (example: microsoft paying square enix to port the game)

>>379202189
It really does, I've hated it ever since arr