Comfy turn based JRPG thread, part 2 >what are your favorites

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>>379179891
>>379138368
and you don't need to make continuous threads, might as well resurrect /jrpgg/ in that case

Legend of Dragoon sequel/reboot never ever.

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Asked last thread but didn't get any replies.

Been looking into some jrpgs and was wondering if I can get some quick thoughts.
>SMT: Soul Hackers (3ds)
>Metal Saga (ps2)
>Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (ps2)
I'm mostly after soul hackers as I haven't completed a smt game and the cyber punk setting seems cool.

>>379180056
I was OP of last thread, I didn't make this thread though I don't use /vg/ but maybe I'll try doing a /jrpgg/ though.

I'm looking for SRPGs. Here's a bunch of games on my backlog, which are good and which are not? Feel free to recommend other games as well.

dark wizard
brigandine
arc the lad
vandal hearts
faselei!
gungnir
stella deus
monstania
energy breaker
stella glow
rondo of swords
project x zone
soul nomad
phantom brave
feda
vantage master
natural doctrine
nep noire

>>379180652
X zone is mostly a fan service game, gameplay is said to be pretty repetetive. I have heard the sequel is better though.

>>379180652
>Arc the Lad
A good place to start if you've played none of those games. Vandal Hearts is entry-level fare as well.

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>>379179891
>Minstrel Song's final boss music

>>379180652
>faselei!
>dark wizard
>vantage master

99% chance a chunk of your backlog came from me at some point. Makes me smile.

>>379180924
Agree with this guy, Arc is a great starting point.

>>379180059
Just a shame they decided to port Devil Summoner 2 but not 1 for some strange reason. Especially since 1 still isn't even fan translated.

>>379181212
SaGa music is always great. If only SG would get translated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4QtN6aam8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwZIVgk8geA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2GGtMVyxJg

>>379179891

Two hidden gems spring to mind

Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7

>>379179891
>favorites
If it has to be turn based, Xenogears any day. If not, then Xenoblade.
>Recently played
I am Setsuna on the Switch and Persona 5 on the Pro.
>Looking forward to
Xenoblade 2.

>>379181681
Fuck you.

>>379180531
They're all great games
Soul Hackers has possibly my favorite setting in SMT together with SJ, gameplay is standard old SMT, nothing too bad, music is amazing and so is monster design.
Metal Saga is part of the Metal Max series which I personally love, it's basically an open world nonlinear JRPG with tanks and a heavy Mad Max influence, it's pretty much Mad Max: The JRPG series, if you like open world and exploration coupled with maintaing your vehicles you'll drop 200 hours on it easily.
Dragon Quarter is a misunderstood game, it's really good but not what people expect from BoF since it becomes a kind of survival Roguelike, if you can get into it it's possibly the best BoF mechanically speaking.
>>379180652
The only one I'd skip is Nep, because I don't like nepshit, Arc trilogy is great if you want something with more narrative focus, it's pretty great, Vantage Master is more of a complex board game than a true SRPG, but you'll see once you play it, possibly my favorite Falcom RPG besides Brandish.
>>379181212
Itoken is Itoken, Scarlet Grace's battle themes are all amazing too.

>>379181605
Some more great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hW-MHssUd8

They never make em like this anymore.

Beat Berseria last night and I kinda feel like shit. Should I bother with Zestiria at all?

>>379181873
>>379181269
Did you guys play the original vantage master? Seems like there's also an updated Vantage Master Portable, is that translated?

>>379180531
wait for extra deep strange journey

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>When you kill Orlandu's descendent

>>379181873
Thanks for the info. I loved metal max returns and was bummed to hear a lot of the series isn't translated. I heard about metal saga and thought it was worth a look. With DQ I loved III and IV and honestly the timer mechanic seems pretty interesting along with the apoctlyptic setting look great.

>>379182239
I have heard about DSJ but I have heard SJ can be brutal for a newcomer, I thought SH would be a good beginning point and then I could get DSJ when it comes.

How good is world of final fantasy?

>>379180652
>stella deus
this is legit my most hated game of all time. It was awful in almost every aspect.

>>379182174
The PSP Vantage Master is the same as the PC version but with different Cameo battles, so no Popful Mail or Brandish characters to fight, iirc they've been swapped for TiTS characters but it's been a long time since I played it so I might be wrong, it's either TiTS or other Kiseki characters that weren't in the original Vantage Master either.

The PC version is free though, you can get it in english on Falcom's website too, the PSP version is JP only, and so is the second Vantage Master.
Get the PC version and see if you can get into it though, it's a fairly unusual game, kind of vaguely reminiscent of Culdcept in a way.
>>379182345
If you liked Returns you'll love Saga since it's Returns Turbo II Arcade Deluxe edition&Knuckles, I still prefer the DS games but it's a game you must play if you like Metal Max.

>>379182716
Do you like FF?

>>379182174
The first game was Vantage Master. Then right after that they released a "sequel" (pretty much just an updated version) called V2. V2 had an English language version release called Vantage Master Online. That's what I played, the English VMO version of V2, it's what most English players have played. Then there was another sequel called Vantage Master Japan which I know little about. Then VM was remastered for PSP and yes, it was called Vantage Master Portable, which then also got a PC port.

If you're playing V2, VMO, or VMP, you're fine.

>>379183057
yes

>>379183487
Then it's pretty good

Was fucking anything announced at Tales fest? Wasn't this year supposed to be the ten year anniversary?

Ahhh, console video games (or vidcons as I call them), the ultimate medium of expression, able to convey any emotion ranging from hatred to love, loyalty to fear, all in front of our eyes. Ah, and with lovingly crafted art, music, and the ability to control the action, vidcons are the ultimate combination of the high arts. While I tend to play the stoic, I will be the first to admit that vidcons have driven me to cry, to scream and shout, to feel actual hate; such is the power of this force beyond our wildest reckoning. And here I am, before you, to tempt your tongues with the taint of such a tantalizing topic. And the Japanese, the true geniuses behind the world of video games. Pah, I throw my scorn upon such incompetents of the West who would mock the true art of the Japanese with 'games' such as Baldur's Gate and Madden. Perhaps it is that the West is not as intelligent as the East, but this is a matter for another day. Japan has given us such masterpieces as the Final Fantasy series, Star Ocean, Wild Arms, and of course, Arc the Lad. Yes, some of the finest vidcons in the world were created by Japanese. I come to you today to ask you in all earnesty, what is your favorite vidcon? I will reveal mine after the grand debate has illustriously begun, but not before the first poster falls victim to my plot of discussion.

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>>379183909
You write this, don't think I have seen this before. Almost ironic enough for pasta material.

>>379184098
>He hasn't played Barkley: Shut up and Jam, Gaiden: Chapter 1 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa

embarassing

I just politely borrowed SMT4:A off Nintendo's servers. Is this worth playing on War or Apocalypse? I looked it up and apparently higher difficulties lower the hit/dodge rate on top of upping prices for the compendium.

>>379179891
>what are your favorites
FF5, SaGa Frontier, DQ3 SuFami
>play any recently
FF5 in co-op
>anything you looking forward to
Romancing SaGa 3

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Any good words about this?

>>379183880
Nothing.
Wait for the TGS or something.

I hope this mean they take their time to do somthing good.

>>379179891
>Favorites
Persona 4, pokemonG/S, Radiant historia
Tales of Xillia 2
>Currently Playing
Nocturne, Persona 1
>Interested in
Xenoblade 2,New Tales,Smt5

>>379184568
Best game in a great series. Growlanser is kinda like jrpg meets srpg meets rts.

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Currently tag teaming this with Tales of Phantasia on PS1. I was playing FF III on the SNES, but it really felt like a chore so I decided to drop it and move on. I'm really suprised by how uch i'm enjoying Lufia, it's been a blast. Do you think there's a snowballs chance in hell we'll ever see another entry in the series, or is it doomed to fade into obscurity?

WHEN IS THAT RANCE DUNGEON GAME GONNA GET TRANSLATED ITS BEEN LIKE 2 YEARS NOW

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>>379179891

Suikoden 2 is easily my favorite. I play it every few years. I would love an HD remaster with new sprite and such. Never gonna happen though.

I got platinum in Persona 5 recently and enjoyed it alot.

Currently looking for a game to play now that I've finished that. Not quite time for a S2 replay so I'll look for something new.

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Chaos Vyce sure looks crazy as fuck.

>>379179891
>what are your favorites
FF1 and 2, DQ1 and 2, the Game Boy SaGa ("Final Fantasy") games, and various turn-based roguelikes. The FF series really took a nosedive after the Famicom era was over, so anything after that can't hold my interest. I really didn't even care for FF3 for that matter.

As for individual games, there's a shit-ton of stuff I play: Natsume's Dungeon Magic, the NES ports of Bard's Tale and Pool of Radiance, Miracle Warriors, the NES ports of Ultima 3 and 4... Not really sure how many of those count, since they were originally conceived by Western devs. Just their respective console ports were handled by JP studios.

>play any recently
No. Been busy clearing random things from my backlog. Just now finished Twilight Princess for GC.

>anything you looking forward to
No. I don't own any current generations of hardware and don't want to. I especially don't care for remakes, so-called "enhanced" ports or other soulless cash-ins.

>>379185887
I don't see how it's possible to like FF1 and not 3 and 5. They're just progressively better takes on the same formula.

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>>379185573
Suikoden 2 is the shit. I really like how it isn't pretentious like so many JRPGs from the time were. Not to mention it also didn't chase 3D and try to be FF7. In fact, modern elements it did incorporate like the CG cinematics are easily the worst parts that have aged the worst.

>dat intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9olg7Q6TFXw

>>379186271
my nigga. It really is a beautiful game. I don't think I'll ever get some of the music out of my head either. Only downside I can think of is you need to use a guide to see the best ending. At least I did, I'm not the brightest fucker.

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>>379186271
I'm amazed by how well it has aged visually. You don't really appreciate those big expressive sprites until you see them in action almost 20 years later.

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Feels bad man

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>>379186803
>mfw necrolord battle theme

https://youtu.be/473L99I88n8

>>379184568
>growlanser

sure, most games didn't make it to the west but I'd bet that art style also put off potential buyers

Radiant Historia. Combat can get pretty repetitive, but thats just turn based combat in general but besides that its just top notch

>>379180095
If sony wanted me to buy a PS4 they'd have to do this.

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>>379180095

>>379180095
Good.

>>379180095
HARPOON

>>379186978
>not liking "the Master of Bushes"

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>>379179891
>comfy

Guardian's Crusade. Sadly a somewhat forgotten early PS1 JRPG where you get to raise a pink pig and brace yourself for feels you didn't even know your cold heart could experience.

>>379187613
ive never heard of or played this but that pig definitely dies at some point.

>>379187613
I was thinking of re-playing it. How well has it aged?

>>379180652
Stella Glow is horrible, dont bother with it

>>379187613
played this as a kid, its mediocre but has some charm to it

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>>379187730
Something like that.

>>379187779
I'd imagine it's really clunky as it had a lot of half-baked system that involved raising the Baby. Not to mention I have no idea how I managed to find all the Living Toys back in the day without a guide.

>>379180903
It is a lot of fan service, but the character interactions are a lot of fun and the game play is interesting but repetitive.

>>379179891
I'm okay with JRPGs as long as they don't have random encounters. This thing should be eternally forbidden. It's even strange that FF kept this until XII.

>Persona 3-5 are great
>DQ7 3DS (because it gets rid of the random enemy encounters) is good too.
>Paper Mario (64 TTYD)
>Mario and Luigi (SSS, Bowser's inside story)
>Xenoblades
>Baten Kaitos 1

I'm still on Persona 5. And there's no JRPG I'm eagerly waiting for

>>379187779
Like most ps1 3d jrpg games, it hasn't really age well but if you can look past that then this game is a must play jrpg game.

Why are JRPG Bards so bad?

>>379189264
They exist?

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>>379184568
It's one of my favourite games but it's not for everyone. The story is only a couple notches above the typical JRPG, as it has some "ancient evil" type stuff, but the characters are very memorable and the story focuses more on kingdoms and politics than the silly stuff. It's nice how you can influence several characters' fate depending on your actions. I also like the 'vacation' periods between combat, it's a nice way to pace the game and to develop characters. Eventually your 'base' becomes one of the most comfy places in vidya.
Unfortunately the game starts pretty slowly.

The best part of Growlanser IV is the gameplay. You move across the battlefield and fight enemies. After each attack (or before each spell) you undergo a cool down period until you can act again, like a turn based JRPG. But moving across the map is also tied to time, you can input orders and reassign orders any time while moving so the gameplay feels very fluid. Furthermore, there is a materia-like system that both teaches skills and provides certain bonuses for having them equipped. There's a lot of customization you can do with this system and this is very important because of the battles. Rather than simple 'kill the enemy' like in most games, almost every map requires a different strategy depending on the layout of the battlefield and any side objectives of the map. Sometimes you'll want to focus on magic, sometimes, you'll need to delay an enemy from escaping, sometimes you need to protect allied units, sometimes you need to kill the enemy but even then you want to take advantage of the battlefield in order to do so.

>>379189675
where should i start? iv? does it require much/any grinding?

>>379189593
In the fantasy games they do, and they're usually shit only marginally better than Dancers.

>>379183880
>Wasn't this year supposed to be the ten year anniversary?
Isn't it the 20/25th anniversary though?
>>379184568
A must play if you like actual RPGs, so non linearity, choices that matter, event variations and endings, possibly the best in its franchise too overall, hell you can also go full homo if you want.

>>379186978
>2 out of 6 is most

Public education.

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>>379186803
The 2d/2.5d jrpgs of that era aged amazingly visually. BoFIII and IV, SaGa Frontier 1 and 2, and Paper Mario look great.

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Ayy I'm playing this and it's fun. Runs like shit on ps3 though.

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>>379187613
>>379187779

It has not aged well at all, it's almost as plodding as Beyond the Beyond.

>>379189675
Nice post. I'll start it tomorrow.

>>379189960
IV is a good place to start. Also note that there's an "undub" patch available (voices were removed in the western release, this just puts them back in).

There's no grinding necessary. Sometimes you encounter enemies on the map as you go from place to place but you can avoid them and/or escape battles by moving your main character to the end of the current screen.

Sometimes people find it hard but only because they're not willing to adjust their setup and tactics to overcome the obstacles and just try to grind until they can win mindlessly. The game is pretty easy as long as you aren't completely retarded.

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>>379184568
If you care about it, the localized version has no voice acting outside cutscenes whereas the Jap version is fully voiced.

Patched game with voices: https://mega.nz/#F!OpwiiDjI!l3I8suQPTPinJVW3bB-fSA

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>>379189264
>>379190037
The first ones that come to mind are the Minstrel in the Romancing SaGa games and Levin from Fire Emblem 4 (and Homeros from Fire Emblem 5 I guess).

>>379191296
I just downloaded the undub from emuparadise. Is it the same?

>>379191775
Should be.

>>379179891
favorites
>ff9, ffx, paper mario
recently played
>ffxv, persona 5, fire emblem shadows of valentia

looking forwards to?
>ffviir, kh3, project refantasy

>>379190329
PC port when?

>>379179891
>>what are your favorites
Probably
>Final Fantasy X
>Persona 5
>>play any recently
Last turn based JRPG I played was Persona 5 I think.
>>anything you looking forward to
Xenoblade 2

>>379191775
If you're playing it with ppsspp and you get text errors, you might need the original PSP fonts.

Here: https://mega.nz/#!xoUwTLxA!dzoqez5Ym-FgScMICUGAt5cuHeCsnpJ68gwVxgDPul0

Put them in the flash0 folder,

Do I need to play Xenoblade 1 in order to enjoy 2? I don't have or want a Wii U but will probably be getting a switch soon. I suppose I could emulate it if I need to.

>>379190329
>>379192056
Hopefully never. Would be a waste of time for that piece of shit

>mfw I have to buy a Switch for Xenoblade 2

>>379192542
I don't think so, but not so much is known about the game right now. Xenoblade Chronicles is well worth emulating though. Grab some highres UI textures and its a great looking game

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What's the best looking JRPG and why is it SaGa Frontier II?

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>>379179891
>what are your favorites
MMBN3, GS2, Shining Force, The Legend of Legacy (the one fan on /v/), Etrian Odyssey series, Pkmn SM, Devil Survivor 2 RB, certain FE titles
>play any recently
Still playing DQIX
>anything you looking forward to
Alliance Alive and Ever Oasis

>>379192698
>plays jrpgs
>cares about muh grafix

jk that actually looks really nice anon

>>379185573
My bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V07qVpXUhc0

>>379192763
Art style =/= graphics

>>379192837
Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami never got the credit they deserved for Suikoden 2 OST. It's such a recognizable soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDuDkzGeuno
>dat feel when you come back to it in Suikoden 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2XPTsJSgSk

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>>379192837
>>379192874

I miss Suikoden

>>379193270
Where do I start with the series?

>>379193335
>playing any series in any order other than chronological

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>>379192698
Those oversized feet look really freakish.
> the best looking JRPG
That's Seiken Densetsu 3.

>>379193335
1 or 2. 1 is just a worse version of 2. Story is still good though. You can't go back to 1 after playing 2 though. Just better all around. If you play 2 first you'll just not recognize some things they mention or characters.

This seems like the best place to ask. What do I need to do to play SaGa Frontier on my tablet?

>>379191361
>Minstrel in the Romancing SaGa
That's kind of cheating though, besides, the Minstrel isn't really that good of a character in the games he's in, he's kind of a generalist with no real weakness but no strenghts either, unless you really like it many characters are better than him, and in Minstrel Song he can't be used if you want to finish the game for plot reasons, he's more of a crutch for the first hours of gameplay and a lore character.

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>>379192698
Legend of Mana gives Frontier 2 a run for its money, but they both also employ obviously pre-rendered assets. Something made entirely with tilesets like Suikoden 2 is just as impressive for working with less, for example.

>>379193778
They need to do Legend of Mana with online coop. I loved doing that back in the day with my bro. Would be amazing to be able to do that again.

>>379193625
Good thing is S1 is also really short by JRPG standards AND you can import your save into S2 so it's worth playing through regardless. He'll also understand why S2 is considered a perfect sequel by many int terms of building on top of the original game.

>>379193897
You're right. I think that recruiting the Hero from 1 is the only thing you get for importing from 1 right?

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>>379179891
>what are your favorites
SMT, .hack, Shadowhearts
>play any recently
Currently going through FFVI for the first time. Mid battle conversations seem cool.
>anything you looking forward to
Xenoblade 2, Project Octopath, and SMT: Stranger Journey. Nothing else really comes to mind unless you wanna count Etrian Odyssey V.

Are there any notably good jrpg mobile ports? I need something to play on the go, and most shit doesn't feel as good with touch screen buttons.

>>379194090
I think there's a mobile version of final fantasy tactics? I imagine that isn't terrible on mobile but I haven't tried it myself.

>>379193765

You can totally use the Minstrel in two out of three of the endings, however.
You can argue his TWEEST ending is the canon ending, but he's still both very viable and very likeable to have in your party. Not to mention the most readily availble end-game viable character you can get.
Feels like a bad choice to have such a 10/10 character be left out.

>>379194090
Romancing SaGa 2

>>379194068
I think it also affects starting levels for relevant characters but yeah, you're doing it if you did a 108 characters completion for what you said.

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>>379194217
>I think there's a mobile version of final fantasy tactics?

From what I understand it's the only one with actually modified graphics.

>>379193695
Install any emulator?

One of my favorite parts about Suikoden 2 is the castle. Just watching it grow over time and seeing characters you recruit open shops and hang out at various places in the castle. All the minigames you can do, going to the bath, just talking to everyone. I really love it. I dunno if any other games do that as well but I'd love for more games to do it.

>play SaGa Frontier II
>try to follow the storyline
>time skip
>time skip
>time roll back
>prologue to a time skip?
>prologue to the prologue of the time skip???
>??????

I love this game to bits, but holy hell this is hard to keep track of.

>>379194498
But which ones aren't evil gookware?

>>379194472
still don't have noses.

>what are your favorites
Final Fantasy VI, Xenogears and Tales of Vesperia
>play any recently
Terranigma and Lost Odyssey
>anything you looking forward to
I'll need to see gameplay of Xenoblade 2 and a friend of mine likes Ys and the 8th one is coming out. Can't think of any more that interest me.
What are some lesser known JRPGs on 7th and 8th gen consoles? They don't have to be amazing, english translation is prefered but not mandatory.

I've never played suikoden. The gameplay looks boring and shallow and I don't think I'd be able to keep track of so many characters. What's so great about it?

And do you need to play the game with a guide to get the "full experience" or will a blind playthough be more enjoyable?

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>>379193778
>but they both also employ obviously pre-rendered assets
I'm pretty sure LoM doesn't have any prerendered assets unless you consider digitalized drawings as such, the characters' sprites are all hand drawn, Frontier 2 does use some prerendered assets for the monsters and characters' sprites in duel mode though, and some of the big bosses I guess.

Both games are made by the same people anyway, I guess the artist who did the backgrounds is one of the few different staff members between the games but most of the others are the same exact people.
>>379194242
>but he's still both very viable and very likeable to have in your party.
Well, it's a SaGa game, as long as you nurture your characters you can use anyone doing anything, that's one of the main points of the series.
He is "inferior" to most of the cast when it comes to key factors such as BP or stat growth in the sense that he's mediocre in all fields, but as long as you keep him in your party he'll get better naturally, in Romancing SaGa 3 it's a bit trickier since stats don't grow at all so you notice how he lags behind others much more than his Minstrel Song counterpart, you might even hate him since once you recruit him you can't get him out of your party unless you kill him off or seal a gate.
>>379194586
If you want to follow Frontier 2's story you must keep in mind that Gustave and Wil's story happen at the same time, it is best to complete one scenario for each MC at a time by chronological order, the game does allow you to skip scenarios and proceed how you want but the plot will be really hard to follow by doing so, especially in Gustave's side since he has so many protagonists like Kelvin, Johan and Kelvin's children.

Persona 2 is pretty good

>>379194702
Retroarch I guess.

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>>379192698
>>379193778
I think BoFIV deserves a mention, though I would give it to SF2 too.

>>379195029
>What's so great about it?
The story is good. Some characters are good. That's it.
Also, I don't recommend trying to recruit every character in Suiko II, either with or without a guide. Some requirements are pure bullshit and can easily make you hate the game.

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>>379179891
>>what are your favorites
FFTA2 (it counts)
Atelier Ayesha Plus
Eternal Sonata
>>play any recently
I got Utawarerumono last week for Vita, the gameplay is straightforward and enjoyable. I'm also trying to get into Trails in the Sky again.
>>anything you looking forward to
I'm not sure what's upcoming.

I'm probably going to finish Breath of the Wild tonight. If I jump into Xenoblade Chronicles X, will it give me the same joy from exploration? The influence Monolithsoft had on the world design is pretty glaring.

>>379195550

>Also, I don't recommend trying to recruit every character in Suiko II, either with or without a guide. Some requirements are pure bullshit and can easily make you hate the game.


That isn't true anon. With a guide it's not that difficult. The best ending is well worth it imo.

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Postin from last thread

>what are your favorites
DQV, Suikoden 2, anything with "Phantasy Star" in it, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy IV, Megami Ibunroku Persona, and Soul Hackers

>play any recently
Alternating between Vanguard Bandits and SaGa Frontier (Asellus)

I bought the sword in Facinaturu without knowing what spending "Life" meant. Doesn't really matter because I can take anything out with one hit thanks to Double Slash and White Rose's Mystic bullshit. Is there a way to get the Mermaid back, or was she just a temp member?

>anything you looking forward to
Etrian V, DQXI, DQX, DQMJ3P, latest SaGa, fan translations on ANY MegaTen game or Romancing SaGa 2 for the Vita.

>>379195657
>That isn't true anon.
>run from 100 battles
>get me an item that randomly appears in one shop
Nah, anon, fuck this shit.

>>379195717
>Is there a way to get the Mermaid back, or was she just a temp member?
Mesarthim can be recruited by going back to Owmi after a certain someone leaves your party during a certain main quest.

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This might be the best PS1 jRPG. I got this game knowing nothing about it, but it sure took me on a ride.
Too bad Shadow Hearts shat on the setting with each sequel.

>>379195824
You don't have to run from 100 battles all at once. Just check the shop on occasion.


that was rough wew

>>379195717
>Is there a way to get the Mermaid back
yeah
Just return to where you left her

>>379195883
Wouldn't call it the best but it's certainly one of the most overlooked.
A shame the game's very easy outside of the Gargoyle, but I don't really have anything bad to say about it, the voice acting is also quite literally the best I've ever heard to this day, no joking.
Really liked how it used the very same SaGa growth mechanics and implemented in a mini SRPG battlefield formula, the survival elements were also great and so were the setting, music and characters, truly a shame that Sacnoth died and Shadow Hearts became something completely different.

>>379195883
>Koudelka

Eh. It's a game that essentially inherited the worst elements from JRPGs and survival horror, and requires a very specific mindset to enjoy. Gear degradation and random encounters don't mix in my opinion. Also, it's short as fuck on the survival horror side and isn't long like you'd expect out of a JRPG.

>>379196248
>Gear degradation and random encounters don't mix in my opinion.
The problem with gear degradation is that it suffers from the usual problems of the mechanics, you either get tons of drops that effectively negate the breaking problem altogether or get almost no drops or shitty gear that just push you to invest on bare handed attacks and never look back.
Due to the really strange decision of making map loot randomized you can also find an obscenely strong weapon early on that fucks your growth and perception of balance by steamrolling everything until it breaks, leaving you with subpar base stats and no good weapons at all while bosses just walk all over you because lol, your bare handed attacks are shit and you got no weapons.

It was an interesting experiment despite all of its problems though.

>>379194745
Magna Carta 2?

>>379196248
>>379196904
bare firsts and magic wrecks everything in the game anyway so gear is kinda not so important, beyond being a good stat booster for casters.

Post your favourite JRPG and EXPLAIN its appeal.

It's so hard to find good games because reviewers know nothing about games, but I trust that you guys like games enough to be able to explain your reasoning.

>>379183317
PC port of VM Portable only came out in China IIRC, and I haven't found a rip of that anywhere. But I want to see screens of it just in case Falcom does have HD assets for that game, meaning a localization for PC on Steam/GOG would look and play great (especially with online play).

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>>379199497
It's Wizardry on a console. Not sure what else there is to write about. 6 man party based hardcore dungeon crawler (although this is a pretty easy game, as far as Wizardry goes). This game is kinda like a proto-Etrian Odyssey in many ways, and I think the people who made this went on to create Etrian Odyssey, so there are a lot of beats that feel very similar-ish. Combat is fun and the dungeon design is very good and never feels like it's irritating with some gayass mechanic that no one enjoys, like teleporter mazes. The only cons for this game are the slow combat animations which can make the game drag on if you aren't the more patient type and that thieves are a useless class since they don't bring useful dungeoneering utility like they do in other Wiz games and their combat abilities are really poor. Highlights of the game is that it really feels like you're adventuring with a party of people from an 80's / 90's fantasy anime, like Record of Lodoss War.

playing SO3 since I bought it on PS4 again.

I forget how the optional scenes work, is it just a running tally of points for who you get the ending with? Maria a best girl, but I like seeing all the scenes for people.

>>379179891
>what are your favorites
Mario & Luigi, Shadowhearts, Grandia, Legend of Heroes
>play any recently
I'm playing Wild Arms 5 right now. This plot is really stupid but it's entertaining enough. Battle system is really fun though.
>anything you looking forward to
Xenoblade 2 and Ever Oasis

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>>379199497
I like this game's job customization system. The game has all sorts of usable weapons, magic and special items. Even curious party members like Berserkers with whips or Black Mages throwing Ninja scrolls are possible and viable.
Status effects mean a lot, even the very last boss can be petrified and paralyzed.
Personally I like the characters and the world design. I especially like the ending a lot and look forward to it on every playthrough.

>>379199497
I will post more than one:
>Romancing SaGa 2
Generational, non linear gameplay with a huge cast of characters, great quests and memorable villains coupled with an extremely solid and challenging battle system and game design, the freedom of building your team and progressing through the game is amazing especially for a SNES game, non linearity and quest variations depending on many factor make the game extremely replayable too.
>Unlimited: Saga
The most progressive JRPG on PS2 and possibly one of the most progressive RPGs in general, using many revolutionary mechanics applied to the classic SaGa formula of freedom of choice in main characters, character building and story progression, not for everyone and requires quite a lot of work to understand fully but it's an amazing game for real RPG enthusiasts.
>Metal Max 2:R
DS Remake of Metal Max 2 from SNES, another RPG that emphasizes freedom and nonlinearity all around, coupled with the vehicle mechanics typical of the series and customization, tons of contents and a pretty tight battle system, not to mention the cool post apocalyptic setting that ties right into the first Metal Max in terms of plot too.
>Frontier Gate Boost+
Unsung PSP gem by Tri Ace, you play as an explorer in some kind of fantasy frontier continent with a thematical setting similar to that of the first american explorers, the main character is created by the player and can be fully customized, as you progress through the story you'll meet various characters and you can choose to partner with one of them to complete various quests and develop your relationship with them, finding out who they are and why they came to the Frontier, battle system is vaguely similar to EoE/Resonance of Fate but without the directional element and more focused on building combos with your partner, tons of quests, an amazing OST and some quite good writing make it a very good game, if not a bit grindy if you want to 100% it.

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>>379201124
>not for everyone
But seriously.

>>379180652
X Zone is like the best thing in the world, just make sure you at least know a pair of the characters in it

>>379199861
The map song or inn song with the piano was amazing

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>>379201406
it's a jinxed series

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>>379201406
>Everything that's wrong with RPGs
>Completely different from most RPGs

>Having every move consume HP is somewhat unbalancing
>That's literally how you balance your defense

>Passable framerate
>The game runs at 60FPS

>>379180652
Stella glow is FUCKING TERRIBLE, actually anything from the luminous arc saga is fucking trash and should be set on fire on sight, do not play those,I fucking regret PIRATING those games.

What's a good JRPG with mechanics similar to "The Genius of Sappheiros"?
Here's a list of them:
>party consists of 6 members, can be interchanged at any time from around ~18 characters
>plenty of different party formations that have different probabilities of targetting depending on position, also offer different stat bonuses to characters in specific spots
>characters can equip various equipment and equip up to 6 different skills, changing them at any time (not in combat)
>character have specific skill trees that can be changed around at any time, one character can go from a tank/support role to an offensive role in an instant
>status ailments are relevant and work on plenty of bosses, many bosses almost require specific strategies and can't just be brute forced through

>>379202284
Throw a DL link while you're at it.

>>379202284
Devil of Decline
:^)

>>379202284
Suikoden 2
- 6 partymembers from around 80 fighting characters
- Plenty of combos that can be done with the right caracters in the team
- status alliment

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Playing the legend of legacy.
AHAHAHAHAH I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA ON WHAT AM I DOING
>Oh shit this shadow dude hits hard
>Why does the enemy get to cast shit as soon as they get a contract?
>OH SHIT those birds that didn't do any damage hit hard when they have a contract
>Should I bother levelling up support? Nah it's useless
>Wait it actually affects speed
>Oh boy time to get free money by harvesting eggs
>Oh no they spawned a boss
>Where is the fucking fire shard?
>Oh I unlocked a new area
>There's literally nothing in it
>Boats randomly give me a sword that has 60 more attack than everything I had or so it seems
>Ahahah I sure love when my characters awaken and use a shitty attack when I desperatly need them to debuff my enemy :^)
Having a blast so far, I hope they translate the sequel.

>>379202284
That's literally a Tohou SaGa clone, so any SaGa game, hell it even directly rips off some of the formations and just changes the names.

>>379202284
Not a JRPG The darkest dungeon

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>>379202502
https://mega.nz/#!Ddg00YCQ!VZYQvli4fMjy9Q1GDdsabnWp2t1_Bs8O1tlhTlxSZPA
have fun

>>379202284
Breath of Fire IV. You have six party members, three in front to attack and three in the back. Depending on the order you use attacks/magic it will become stronger and become a new attack.

>>379201124
I think Romancing SaGa 2 is brilliant. In many JRPGs you can build a party, but once you reach a tough boss you're basically stuck with whatever skills and classes you arbitrarily decided to train several hours ago so you can't really do much. If you were to go back and prepare specifically for a boss you would just become overlevelled so preparation would be pointless. But in Romancing SaGa 2, your characters' life points will get depleted in your travels and you will sometimes get wiped out. And then your next emperor will take up the mantle and avenge your previous loss by specifically forming a team to overcome the challenge. And you'll face stronger enemies now that you've fought more battles so the adventure is still fun.

If RS2 ever gets a Minstel Song-esque remake it might be the greatest game of all time.

>>379202875
I played Romancing SaGa 3 and it was much more similar to Nightmare of Rebellion, and honestly not that awesome. Do you recommend other SaGa games?

>>379202584
Epic. Honestly DoD was good but not as good as GoS for me.

>>379202802
Will look into it, I only played the DS one (I think it's called Tierkreis or something like that), and that was good.

>>379202284
Vita translation when? It's the only Touhou game I want on console.

>>379201124
I started playing the SaGa games last year and they've really fucked me up. I've been playing JRPGs for years, and they are easily some of the best. It's painful finding out how great they are and realizing how underappreciated they are while other game series keep blasting out turds that sell millions. Also knowing that Scarlet Grace will probably never come out over here any time in the next 20 years sucks major dick.

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>>379202284
>buy Nightmare of Rebellion
>play it up until the last boss before the expansion
>stop playing because I suck and am stuck
>want to come back to it after a while
>jew jap DRM locks me out of the game
>don't know moon so I don't know how to ask DLSite or Bose for them to fix it

>>379203640
>Do you recommend other SaGa games?
Sure, all SaGa games play differently from each other, the various Tohou SaGa clones are usually a mix of many different SaGa games.

Then again, SaGa's an acquired taste so you might still prefer the Tohou clones for some reason.

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>>379203773
you could stream it with moonlight.

Why can't I get into Romancing Saga? I played Frontier like twelve times. But RS it's always the same. I start out, do a few quests, can't figure out what to do next, and just lose interest.
All the while, constantly worrying that I'm fighting too much and might accidentally raise the battle rank or whatever it's called.

Also, are the party members at pubs random? Or is it set in stone? I picked Aisha and only have a few towns open, and keep cycling through them but there's just nobody at the pubs to choose other than the Minstrel. So I'm still suck with a generic Warrior dude.

>>379204294
The Vita version has new content.

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>>379203912
>I started playing the SaGa games last year and they've really fucked me up.
Hard to go back to normal JRPGs, isnt it?
SaGa does that to you if you happen to like it.
>It's painful finding out how great they are and realizing how underappreciated they are
Oh I know that feel
>Dude you gotta try out this game it's so cool and is totally unique bro it's so good there's nothing like it
>SaGa did everything two consoles generations before and it did everything better
SaGa games suffer the curse of being actually too progressive for their own good so only core fans appreciate them at launch while all the rest catches up two decades after.
>>379204481
Minstrel Song is full of mechanics that you must really understand before being able to pla the game consistently
>Also, are the party members at pubs random?
Most characters travel around the world as you do, so while they do have set patterns they appear at different locations as you move around, making it seem like they move randomly, some characters like Hawke, Neidhart or Diana are fixed, some characters also don't appear depending on your MC, Albert can't recruit Diana for instance whereas anyone else can, some other characters like Jean/Gian require you to complete their quest in order to be recruited, some characters like Darque are only available to NG+ files, some characters also can't be recruited again if you kick them out of your party like Friere/Frielei.

It's complex stuff, the anons in the SaGa threads on /vr/ can help you run through the game without spoilers and answer your questions thoroughly, as long as you don't mind /vr/'s glacial speed.