I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>379178007
is that really necessary?

explain, im not from /g/

>>379178007
I don't read gook sorry

>>379178158
Its a one trick pony single thread performance with bad thermal dissipation

>>379178007
>kaby lake
Enjoy your shitty windows 10.

>>379178259
So a time bomb?

>>379178007
>300 Watts of jewery

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I just bought this instead. did I done goofed?

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>>379178007
>wanting a cpu with a tracking RFID

holy fucking hell, as if Windows 10 spying is not enough, cpus are now spying on you

I hate Intel's naming scheme. Too many fucking 7s and 5s.

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>>379178449
>amd

>>379178007
i'm buying an i7 3770k will i be ok?

>>379178007
Explain. I have i7 for many years now, and it seems to be working still, what is the problem?

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>>379178449

>>379178158
Basically, Intel fucked up the thermal design of the 7700k and a large number of them do not overclock well (they get much more hot than expected and this limits the overclocking capability).

Some people complained about this and Intel basically said "Overclocking capability may depending on the chip / bin and you're SoL"

The only way to fix the issue is to delid the processor - a whole different can of worms.

>>379178467
get 6700 it's the last and most powerfull cpu that fully support windows 7.

>>379178449
hope you like hot rooms on summer

>>379178449
Why the fuck would you buy any non Ryzen cpu?

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>>379178643
>7
i7 6700k i meant

So what is a good CPU at this level/price range that doesn't force me to use Windows 10?

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>308W

>>379178449
When did you buy it?
It is quite a bit weaker than the i7 7700k,but its also cheap and works well enough for nearly all games
As long as you don't play guild wars 2, Arma 3, Starcraft 2 or Skyrim at 800x600 all day you will be fine
But you should've gotten a ryzen 1600 or 1500x

>>379178761
see
>>379178752

>>379178749
Because I'm too poor to get anything else

>>379178449
>non ryzen
you literally fucked up

>>379178632

Yea but why exactly should intel give a fuck about overclocking anyway. Wouldn't overclocking void any warranty either way?

>>379178752
Kek, is that the same guy who couldn't get his hand in his pocket?

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>>379178568
g-guys?

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>>379178007
WELCOME TO THE NEW AGE GOYS

>>379178632
They've done the same shit on the i9 and all the other new releases. All of them have shitty "cost effective" thermal designs(thermal paste instead of soldered) and an RFID chip inside of them.

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>>379178879
yes

>>379178865
7700'K' Is marketed and labeled as an overclocking chip.

>>379178865

The only reason to buy a K cpu over non-k is overclocking.

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>>379178927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

>Unlocking cores with scratch off cards

>>379178845
Oh, well carry in then. Fx series is pretty hot and was underwhelming at release after hype, but they get more shit than they deserve.

>>379178904
i7 3770k is already ancient by technology standards. How much are you paying for it? It better be less than $200. If it's anything higher than that, just get an R5 1600 for the same price.

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>Not buying a Ryzen 5 1600
Stop giving those jews at Intel money for overpriced crap

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>>379178449
>AMD processors

>>379179112
ryzen is also windows 10 only cpu

>>379179109
time to get a new motherboard then

>>379179246
Is there an alternative for a similar price then?

>>379179031

Oh fair enough. Then they did fuck up yea.

>>379179246
Ryzen is sick though. Hence Intel cluster fuck with i9 trying to damage control.

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>>379178130
>Intel i7-7700K - $278.10 ($309.00 - 10% Off Code: PJUNESAVINGS10)

not that bad desu, not as good as pic related from a few years ago

>tfw rocking i7 870
it did good in the witcher 2

>>379178158
/g/ only knows about chinese smartphones anyway.

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>>379178449
I really hope this is bait
Even if money is the problem, this is probably the last thing you should have bought

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>>379179112
You can't post that stuff on here cause of posts like these >>379179246
/v/ is a echo chamber that will still recommend an already obsolete i5
>2017
>being a quadlet

>>379179328
Don't be fooled by the retards. Even if you're only gaming, the only worthwhile Intel CPUs right now are the Pentium G4560 or the i7 7700k. There's no in between, everything else is dominated by AMD Ryzens. Unless there's some extreme case scenario reason for you to get Intel, AMD wins.
And even the 7700k is a one trick pony that's good because of its single core performance. That's it.

Don't be fooled by the /v/tards.
.t /g/entooman that's bored and browsing hardware threads on fucking /v/.

>>379179328
Nah, for budget, AMD is the only option, you are right there. At first I had Intel, than AMD, and now I'm sucking Intel cock again and NOT regretting it.
I have my i5 4670k for 3 years now.

>>379178632
Deliding processor and replacing thermal compound inside isn't all that hard

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>want to upgrade from my i5
>only $200 away from paying off my truck

Maybe it's still too soon to upgrade, considering I bought a new mobo, RAM, and a 1080 last christmas

>>379179632
>having to delid at all

>>379178467
What the fuck is this fucking real?

>>379179632
Yeah but it's a funny meme and a small victory for us amd boys so stfu.

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>>379179632
>I'm fine overpaying and having to do work intel won't do
This is exactly why intel needs to get it's shit pushed in

>>379179580
If you want to rock windows 7 still you need i7- 6700K, there is no other processor worthwhile

>>379179632
Yeah, you only need a specialized kit lest you accidentally kill your processor while removing the cover, and even then, it might have chips close enough to the glue that will get popped in the process killing it instantly with no possible repair. Totally easy.
Oh, and it only instantly voids your warranty attempting to do it. What could possibly go wrong.

>>379179693
You won't need to for another year or two, unless it's like a 2500k

>>379179632
Yea it is. They make special tools to do it and it voids the warranty

>>379178904
For what it's worth I got my 3770k 4 and s half years ago and it's still going strong and barely bottlenecks games with the shittiest optimization

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>>379179580
Welcome to the tech illeterate hell hole.

>>379179570
The Problem is many games still aren't that good at utilizing many cores. An AMD 8xxx has higher raw computing power combining all cores, but single thread performance is lower than that of an i5 from before 3 generations.

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>>379179632
>Tfw $2000 i9 STILL uses shitty TIM instead of solder

>>379179758
Ryzen supports it unofficially although I've no clue how well it runs, but yes, if you want official support, 6700k is the best you could get.

>>379179708
Well, you don't have to but if you are going to overclock you are going to delid anyway
>using shitty stock inner thermal compounds
It's like overclocking with stock instel fans instead of watercooling.

>>379179570
>Intel in full damage control
>Releases some half assed chip and slaps i9 on it
>No one knows what the fuck it's for
>Not even the board partners know how to design a motherboard for because it's a gigantic mess
Kaby X is DoA.

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>>379179769
>specialized kit
You mean paper cutter knife?

>>379179845
This can't be true. Please tell me they didnt fucking jew out proper TIM again.

>>379179783
It's a 6600, but there's always room to upgrade.

I'll probably just save for the new generation, considering I'll have to get a new fucking motherboard with it anyways.

>>379179710
it's literally the cpu ( the chip ) itself

>>379178467
Shitttt

dont want them to find out I keep my computer at home

>>379180045
You can't use those for Kaby Lake chips they are so tightly closed off that you can't properly get under it with the knife. This method was viable for Skylake but Kaby Lake is a tight bitch.

>>379180083
Yes, a well known overclocker fucking delidded a 2000$ cpu
and it still uses shitty TIM instead of being soldered

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>>379179908
>Well, you don't have to but if you are going to overclock you are going to delid anyway
Ryzen overclocks fine without delidding because they aren't Jews and solder their CPUs.

>It's like overclocking with stock instel fans instead of watercooling.
Funny thing, you can actually overclock a bit with the stock AMD coolers.

>>379178568
A little old but still a decent CPU. Just overclock it.

>>379179302
false

So a small number of them can't be pushed past their factory designed specs? Wow, how awful.

>>379179302
Stop lying, It can use windows 7. The problem is the USB drivers, so if you still have a ps/2 mouse/keyboard it'll work

>>379178568
You can get a much better 3930k for around 120 bucks right now, get that instead.

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How much does single-thread performance still matter in games?

>>379178845
7100 is cheaper and better for gaming
7350k is $20 more (assuming you bought 8350 for ~ $130) and much better than 8350 for gaming
Again, I'm not talking cinebench and other synthetics, I'm talking about gaming performance
Of course Intel requires a different motherboard, but there are plenty of cheap ones anyway

>>379180351
You are not going to get updates from micro jews.
Seriously i am switching to linux if they won't make windows 11 legit OS.

>>379180083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Bv8Mxnnlc

>>379180449
These are the k series unlocked cpus. They're marketed as being overclockable. Don't post if you have no clue what you're talking about.

>>379179327
Don't buy new. Sell what you actually have. (i5? i3?)

>>379178007
So is overclocking a 7700k a bad idea if you're not delidding it and it's better to stick with stock clocks if you have one?

Also is a 6700k a better purchase then?

>>379180461
Well, duh, you technically are able to install windows 7 on kaby lake also, you just won't get any updates.

>>379180490
Single-thread is still way more important than multiple cores. It's been years of "OMG X CORES IS THE FUTURE! BUY NEW CPU" and most games still have shitty core support beyond 2.

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>>379180114
>browse this fucking filthy ching chong nip nong chinese basket weaving forum
>rfid tags you
>you are now tagged as a pepe posting alt-right faggot

>>379180695
4 cores support is in pretty much every modern game, stop overreacting.

>>379180490
It matters a lot for poorly-optimized console ports, which are pretty much all the PC gets these days.

>>379180490
Single-thread is important for games, so if you really want to juice every frame get a 7700k
But with AMD pushing the more cores (which is good) hopefully Devs will start utilizing this.
4 cores is dead

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Any rich fag here buying Threadripper?
I have no use for it but I want to buy one anyways cause it looks so sexy

>>379180919
you mean dual cores. and the dual core i7s that pose as quad cores

it will still be a long time before 4 cores are phased out

>>379180490
Most games in 2016 and older are still one or two thread optimized. There are a few that leverage multiple threads.
However you need to consider multitasking, even if it's just lite multitasking. Steam, a browser, and whatever else will quickly take over remaining threads giving you almost no headroom.
Without any headroom you end up with stuttering.

>>379180919
A bunch of games already use like 16 threads

is the i7 2600k relevant at all still?
should i upgrade any time soon?

>>379181031
>I have no use for it but I want to buy one anyways
Why? And then you expect us to take opinions similar to your seriously? Goddamn

>Want to make best of the best computer to play vidya
>Not tech savvy in the slightest

Welp.

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>>379180832
There's support, but it doesn't do much in most games. Look at benchmarks of similarly clocked cpus like ryzens with more or less cores, you get more performance in games from a bit more cache than 2 more cores.
I remember all that rambling about Dx12 core scaling.

>>379180490
It matters, but not that much anymore
Almost all games use 4 cores really well, and 8 cores improve things further in most games

>>379181356
1080ti and 7700k

>>379181368
Its called GPU limit

>>379181356
Ryzen 1700 + 1080ti and a nice 2160p screen

>>379179783
You implyin' 2500k needs upgrade? I hope you're not.

>>379181356
you can do it anon, building your first computer is stressful but super rewarding
i built my first at 24 with no previous tech experience at all (literally bought my first phone and data plan so i could watch guides at home)

i was poor forever so i had none of this growing up

>>379181415
People would typically get 2 graphics cards, yeah?

>>379180793
>nothing changes

>>379181619
Thanks for the support, bud. I wanted to take cash out of my savings for a while now to build something that will last me for a long time.

>>379181546
One quick question, do you happen to know any good vertical monitors? Or any good monitors that have a vertical set up

>>379181682
not him, but i think combining 2 or more graphics cards generally isnt worth the price because some games dont support it, and it wont give you double the performance of 1

>>379181682
>multiple gpus
>ever
Seriously just don't, even if you have money to sink just save yourself the headache. Games ignoring the 2nd card's existence or running WORSE than on one is still a thing even now

>>379181682
No, this is just the best combo within reasonable budget. Of course you can buy a PC that will cost like a somewhat used car, but why. Also Ryzen currently is worse FOR GAMING when compared to 7700k, anyone who thinks otherwise can prove me wrong with their benchmarks.

>>379182017
*proves you wrong*

>>379178449
>AMD
>not even a fuckin Ryzen

are you rearded?

>>379182114
Sorry, wrong choice of words. "Are welcomed to try to prove me wrong", here, fixed. You won't anyway, 7700k is just better on average in gaming benchmarks,

>>379181581
Depends on how much progress we make with CPU's in the next year or two, and if devs start optimizing for more cores/threads.

If they don't, 2500k will still last another 2.5 years at the least, if they do, then it might become a bit antiquated as moar coars starts coming into play.

>>379180490
For games like total war where they can't be bothered optimising for more than 1 and a half cores it's very important.
But in general newer games are using more cores.

6600k or 7700k /v/?

>>379180607
>Also is a 6700k a better purchase then?
It's the same CPU with ~300 Mhz lower clocks OC to OC. If you can get it for cheaper than the 7700k then by all means.

>>379181962
>>379182007
>>379182017
Alright, then I'll do just the one. Thanks, guys.

>>379180461
theres a tool for that

>>379182278
>i5 vs i7
you should be asking 6700k vs 7700k
In which case unless you need that 2% increase, 6700k since it's not a housefire

>>379182278
7700k.

6600k bottlenecks in loads of cpu intensive games. IE GTA V, Crysis 3 (grass area). The 8 threads makes a big difference.

i5 being better than i7 was a meme that was only relevant 5 years ago.

>>379182278
I like my 6600k but the 7700k will out preform it.
consider platform, price, and Ryzen

>>379182249
More than 4 cores? I don't see it coming for a while, but I guess we'll see.

And WWDC is starting

>>379182482
would you also pick a 7700k over a 6700k then?

So what should one get if they don't give a fuck about overclocking?

>>379178632
A 7700k that doesn't overclock well is still better than a ryzen which barely overclocks at all

>>379182661
The one without the K, that's the built in DRM one

>>379182630
Will Apple release a computer that has a modern GPU that matters?
probably not

AMD shilling is forbidden on /v/ we don't want antisemites spreading their bullshit.

Thank you.

>>379182901
>antisemites
wtf i love amd now

>>379182661
get a K anyway, overclocks are easy as fuck

>>379182879
If you mean Mobile, Ryzen APU will be perfect for that.
If Desktop I doubt it.

>>379182901
OY VEY BUY MY CHIPS GOY

>>379182661
Get a r5 1600, intel is only worth it if you overclock.

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>>379182948
>>>/pol/

>>379180084
the 6600 will be fine for a long ass time still
im rocking a 2600 and im not really having any issues with even new games

>>379178904
Seems dated, why not upgtrade to a cheap Ryzen instead.

>>379182954

I know its easy, but I don't really want to overclock and put more heat and stress on my CPU. I don't exactly intend to be running 4k and shit.

>>379178632
>a large number of them do not overclock well
Is CPU overclocking even that important nowadays? I was under the impression that GPU was the only serious bottleneck for most games now.

>>379183164
Yes. It allows me to render blender porn at light speed.

>>379182901
>shilling
>antisemites
does not compute

>>379179082
Linus is usually a clickbaity faggot, but that was real talk right there.

>>379183378
He was also wearing sandals with socks.

>>379182278
Ryzen 1700

>the racist prick was banned

Thank God. Antisemites get out >>>/pol/

>>379179838
Amd Fx is just terrible, sandybridge from 2011 is better. Don't know why people are talking about Fx when the 1600 exists and pretty much makes current i5s obsolete

>>379183589
lmao

>>379182249
They already do my 2500k @4.6 pretty much runs 100% usage on all modern games with uncapped framerate at 120hz. Some games I have to cap to 60fps to stop the stutter, and i5 2500/3570/4690 are pretty much the same performance wise, even the Kaby lake i5 isn't that much better than a 2500.

Intel is stepping up to 4c/8t i5s with cannon lake thanks to ryzen, so you either get a ryzen now or wait a few months and get a 7700k for i5 prices

>>379178927
When can I buy scratch-off codes to double my RAM?

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>>379181823
>browsing sadpanda for Gengorou and Rustle
>RFID tags you
>get fucking swatted

so Kaby Lake-X will be out this month and Cannonlake is coming in August?

thinking of waiting to see if 8700k has decent temps not like 7700k

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>>379183589
DIdn't know mods themselves shitposted but i quess it makes sense.

>>379179632
yeah i got a 7700k and delided it sure it was not to hard but i still feel ripped i had to do so just to get the desired results for what i paid because intel want to be mega jews

>>379178927
Actually intel is doing something similar with the new chipset.

They are locking RAID behind a key now.

>>379180490
For any game that isnt optimized it is important.

So pretty much it is important for fucking everything.

>>379182661
Get a Ryzen 5 1600, best price/performance ratio for gayming.

>>379181356
Avoid AMD CPUs, GPUs are good.

Logicalincrements.com

>>379184676
i knew intel were jews but holy shit
>hardware piracy will be a thing

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You are suppose to delid the I7 7700k You fucking moron.

>>379185056
You shouldn't have to void your warranty on a CPU for it to not overheat.
Dumb frogposter

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>>379184351
They do, but it's a janitor. A shitty janitor, but a janny all the less.

>>379185386
You're retarded if you are incapable of doing it.

>some people mention temp spikes
>worry because i ordered 7700k
>check internet
>only handful people realized it has to do with intel fucking up setting voltage cap too high
>when you have default turbo mode voltage it may briefly jump to 1.4somethingV and that's way too much
>manually set voltage in bios to 1.22V because that's my sweet spot with my cooler
>overclock to 4.7
>temp in turbo while playin vidya is 55-65C
>never anything more that that

check your shit, intel telling people what that crap was about would be them admitting they fucked up by setting default voltage too high which is damn rookie mistake, you'd undervolt anyway when OC'ing to keep stability

>>379184996
>tfw we live in a time where hardware piracy is a thing, you can jailbreak a fridge and you can train hawks to take down delivery drones
what a time to be alive

>>379185685
>Turbo mode
>On an overclock

Are you retarded?

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do you even need to overclock with the i7 7700k yet?
i bought this and a gtx 1080ti 2 weeks ago. not only do they max out the settings in my entire steam library, they also seem to be overkill for emulation.

hd f-zero gx is the best shit

Which i5 on a budget should I get for maximum cost effectiveness, 7400, 7500 or 7600 ?
Ryzens seem pretty pitiful at that price range and boards are expensive too

>>379185974
>overkill for emulation
no such thing. If it weren't for emulation I would have gone amd, but man the 7700k is great for PCSX2

>>379185685
yeah fixing the voltage did not fix my 7700ks temps much at all had to delid to get what i wanted out of it and 4.7 at 55-65 in games is pretty fucking high i get there at 4.8 with stress tests

>>379186282
Ryzen 5 1600 is better than any i5 (except in non smt utilizing games). b350 mobo is like 80$

>>379184314
It will also be 6 cores. No point buying a quad core now when the market is finally changing after 6-7 years

>>379184941
Guess you missed the ryzen release that made Intel lineup obsolete

>>379185530
If amd can do it with cheaper cpus and lower budget why can't Intel?

>>379186517
I don't know shit about motherboards, what's the difference between various chipsets for ryzen? I don't need any fireworks

>>379186282
Not sure if serious, ryzen 1600 is better than i5s and b350 motherboard are cheap, way cheaper than intel boards

>buying 4c/4t cpu over 6c/12t for 10% IPC and clock speed boost

you'll regret it within a year

>>379186282
I would get a 1600 just because they perform the same or slightly worse in games but considerably better in everything else. But if you've already decided on getting an i5, then get the best one you can afford. The 7600k is currently the best one

>>379186282
I5-7600k.

>people actually recommending kaby lake i5s and i7s
>when the cannonlake cpus in september will be 4c/8t for i5s and 6c/12t for i7s and ryzen is out

now is the worst time to buy an i5 or i7, cpu market has been stagnant for half a decade or so and is finally having a shakeup

>>379186952
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/chipsets/am4

b350 is the perfect choice for normal gaming purposes. you can sli with b350 but x370 offers more pcie lanes for it.

>>379187000
>>379186517
Huh, I don't know what the prices in US of A are, but here 1600 is 25% more expensive than i5 7600
boards are too like 400 mycurrencies for b350 versus 200 for an intel board

>>379187146
Depends on what games, in modern games the ryzen will win and on older games i5s will win by slim margin.

The difference will be huge on games that actually uses the cores i.e. bf1, crysis 3, total war.

>>379187315
don't know where you live but Ryzen 5 1600 and Intel i5 7600 cost in my country exactly the same (ca. 220 Euro). Mobo prices are nearly the same as well

>People recommending CPUs based in core/thread count instead performance
I know its all bait but still im sure someone is actually recommending them.

>>379187315
Its worth 25% more than the 7600 imo, it comes with a decent stock cooler too unlike intels shitty stock cooler.

4core/4thread cpus are on the way out, they've been good for the past 7 years or so but no way would I buy one today.

You can overclock on the b350 motherboards but for Intel you have to get a z270 since they lock it on all others

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lol kaby, it isn't even fucking needed, they're only doing it because AMD released something and feel the need to shit on them in some way. i'm still on sandy bridge I7 and still completely max out on every game i own.

>top out around 60c on an air cooler from 2007 with a 4.8Ghz OC
>never delidded my 7700k

Oh well some people have shit luck I guess. Meanwhile my single thread and gaming performance rapes the fastest Ryzen chips with ease. I'm happy.

>>379187315
in britbongland the ryzen 1600 is £10 cheaper than the i5 7600k, and the b350 mobo are £20-40 cheaper than z270

I would still pay more for the ryzen 1600 over the 7600k if I had to, quadcore doesnt seem like the best buy in 2017

>>379185685
Its part of the binning process

AMD are the worst for high voltage, lowering it actually massively improves performance on all their hardware

>>379187829
It was mostly clickbait news.

>>379178449
I've had one for a few years.
You'll regret it. It overheats all the time so I had to limit its usage.

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>>379187671
>tfw you bought a quad core and 144hz monitor

>>379187671
/g/ have just been going on AMD shilling campaigns here lately.
They know full well that Ryzen is worse for games, and that cores are still just good for rendering work and video editing, but they want more people to adopt AMD because it's their "team".

Now, Intel deserves to get fucked by competition, but I wouldn't sacrifice my own performance for it.

>>379187971
lol goddamn that sucks

Bought ryzen 1600 few days ago with b350 chipset. it will last for 5-6 years at least

>>379187671
So you would buy a 4c/4t cpu over a 6c/12t cpu for 10% IPC boost? sounds like buyers remorse to me

>>379187983
ryzen wins in min framerate which is more important. i5s shit itself in certain games where i7s have a clear advantage over them thanks to hyperthreading.

>>379182017
with ryzen the single thread performance is good enough to run games well and close to intel's while also have more cores better handling background and other processes

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AMDpoos on damage control mode now that Intel released a new line that OBLITERATES ryzen cpu.

>>379188091
Hyperthreading is a meme for most people. I disable it for a lot of games for better performance

>>379188023
yep, all these idiots saying i5s are fine. they are fine for 60hz, if you go higher they will bottleneck 1060/980/480 or higher.

im using a 4690k and 980ti, on prey 1080p/ultra its about 100fps but not smooth at all, constant stuttering and 100% cpu usage with 60-70gpu usage. I have to cap the framerate to 75 and DSR from 1440p to stop the stuttering.

same issue in bf1, I have to cap framerate to 60 to stop stuttering.

>>379188091
>10%

We talk FPS and resolutions here, m8
Intel wins hard in those categories. The price is not fair, but that's the premium they can take when there's no real competition.

if you don't care about 4k or VR, which i think most sensible people don't right now, then there was never a reason to upgrade from Devil's Canyon.

>>379188153
I love my toothpaste sandwiches, thank you Intel, I'll take another next year.

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>>379188287
>no real competition

Intel is literally changing their entire lineup with cannonlake thanks to ryzen. FPS the ryzen wins in min framerate which is the most important, and ryzen wins at higher resolutions (4k). I mean if you want 110 average instead of 100 average with no stutters go ahead.

kaby lake is a joke but not nearly as bad of a joke as bulldozer to piledriver

>>379188274
constant 60 fps is perfectly fine and is the standard. i purposely cap my games at 60.

>>379188601
>Intel is literally changing their entire lineup with cannonlake thanks to ryzen
That may well be, but there's no competition at the top level.
AMD doesn't aim higher than the mid-range CPU tier for gaming.

>>379188691
Not when you're on 120/144hz, i5s are not ok for that and will hit 100% usage in nearly every 2016/17 game

>>379188769
7700k isn't top level?

>>379188769
>no competition at the top level.

Whats threadripper? You do also know the ryzen 8 cores perform exactly like the intel 6900ks etc in gaming?

The only CPU Intel has that wins is 7700k since it has 1ghz over the ryzen cpus.

>>379188907
No it isn't, a quad-core will never be top level. just because it says I7 doesn't mean top level.

>>379188794
i'm on 120/144 with an i5.
have you ever heard of adaptive v-sync?

your games are stuttering because you don't know how to configure your GPU settings.

>>379189020
We are talking about gaming here

>>379189020
for gaming it currently is the top level

the higher core count intel cpus also lose just like ryzen because of lower clock speed.

>>379189215
yeah, and an a 6-core still beats a quad core in gaming.

>>379189321
No, it doesn't.

>>379189321
so the 7700k doesn't perform the best in games right now or close to it?

>>379189070
What does gpu settings have to do with the cpu hitting 100% usage?

Adaptive v-sync is for unlocking the framerate when below the v-sync cap.

What gpu do you have? Its probably not good enough to make your i5 sweat, i7s/ryzen have a massive advantage when going for higher framerate.

>>379189528
the CPU is hitting 100% because you're forcing it to render excess frames that it doesn't need to render, that's where adaptive v-sync comes in.

i have a 980.

>tfw build a new PC once every 4-6 years and never worry about hardware until I need it

If you worry about every little and new thing happening, your priorities are wrong.

If you have a current working PC that specs wise can run any Steam game most of the time at 60 fps solid on Medium or higher settings, then you don't need to upgrade shit.

>>379189664
But the point of high hz is to render those frames as high as possible, even in older games like bf4 my gpu usage is 70-80 while framerate is 80-90, with an i7 it would be 120+ framerate with 100% gpu usage. Im using a 980ti so it might just be too much for my 4690k

>>379178568
I got mine super cheap so I don't know about price to performance but I've had success with games like Arma 3

>>379189824
>tfw master race 2500k from 2011
>finally replacing with ryzen 1600 and vega when it releases since Intel has not given me an upgrade route in the same price range as the 2500k I got 6 years ago

no way would I buy a 7600k, basically the same as my 2500k with 20% more IPC

>>379189987
games aren't designed to be run at 4k and 144. if the game doesn't have a 144 option in the settings, your CPU is gonna struggle.
this is why when they benchmark, they run different games, because they're all optimized differently.

i guarantee if you ran your tests with NBA 2k or Metal Gear V, you'd get a constant 144 because those games are optimized so well.

>>379178449
You fucked up big time. There are at least five superior alternatives for the same or less price.

>>379178449
Had mine for 4 years and ive never once had an issue with it. Granted, my mobo doesnt support overclocking

>>379190240
>games aren't designed to be run at 4k and 144

what? this literally depends on your hardware. majority of games have 144hz support, like 99%. my CPU is going to struggle because its an i5 and doesnt have the power to run high framerate compared to i7s or ryzen.

>>379188274
Youre fucking wrong and should feel bad. I have an i5 6500 and a 1070 and get a consistant 60 -100 fps stable no stutter, fix your drivers or hard drive and stop eating shit

>>379178130
Not at all, the marginal difference between it and the 6600k is minimal at best at worst you'll end up returning it and getting a 6600k. Intel really just sat on their hands all this generation.

Its okay, OP. I had 800 dollars to spend on computer upgrades....

I bought a 4750K.

Last december.

>>379191223

*4770

Is it true a 1080ti bottlenecks 1700X/1800X?

>>379190851
>majority of games have 144hz support, like 99%
i dunno about that.

>>379191223
>mfw getting a 4670k for free, complete with 16gb ram and Mobo attached.
>upgrading from a 2500.
Feels good man.

So as someone going from i5 to i7 what should I get? I have a 6500, should I go for the 7700k?