how's that empire going /v/?

>>379159745
Im playing as a spiritualist fanatic militarist species of meritocratic very strong shrimps
My straregy is to keep vassalizing small neighbours to creat buffer zones and integrate them when the next cycle of expansion start

I got like 23 species in my empire and all have full citizenship, im essentially the galactic empire

This game makes me feel like the dumbest piece of shit alive. There just so much stuff to keep track of.

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>>379160012
Play this instead.

You'll feel like you have down syndrome.

I only played vanilla before, so I decided to pirate all the DLCs and give it another go a couple of days ago.
Well, the additions are fun. Habitats basically mean indefinite expansion, so I don't need to go to war out of sheer boredom.
However, megastructure construction limitations are ridiculous. I have +1k resource income each month, I'm the most technologically advanced non-fallen empire on the map, etc, etc. And yet I can't build more than one megastructure at the time for bullshit balance reasons.
More than that, it takes forever to build these things. Each ring world section takes 13 years to complete.

I mean, I understand that these things are supposed to be late-game unique projects, but the timers make these a chore to do.

Playing a short squat froglike species of tumblrinas Only non main species are allowed as leaders in an attempt to achieve diversity. We love minorities so long as they think and act just as we want them to, any divergence gets purged.

It saw better days.

>Create bitchin' fleet complete with giant flagship
>Go to kick some xeno ass
>They have little ships that are simply engines with meson guns attached to them
>One gets close to flagship
>Shoots exactly once
>Hits my missile magazine
>Magazine fails the 97% chance not to fucking explode
>Entire flagship goes nuclear

>>379160012
Stellaris is hardly a complex 4x. there are many far better, more complex and deep 4x games.

>>379159745

I've spent 100 hours in this game and still haven't been able to get into the late-game because I keep restarting.

>>379159745
Well my empire is not european, so pretty shit I guess.

Could crush every other empire in the galaxy but that would take forever.
Took the ringworlds from the last Awakened empire after they crushed the Unbidden and don't have much else left to do.
Probably gonna pull everyone into a federation and call it quits.

>>379159949
>not purging filthy xenos and becoming full robot race
YOU XENO LOVER

I've switched to Endless Space 2.

>>379164376
It's still trash

the fluff is great though

Infuriatingly since it's now impossible to manage slave pops properly.

>>379162281
Like what?
Preferably something that has decent graphics. I know about Aurora, but damn, if I intend to stare at the screen for 12 hours straight, I want the game to be pretty.

>>379165180

What do you mean?

>>379166259
You can't purge specific slave pops anymore, so getting slave pops and your own dudes distributed properly now involves colonising a planet, dumping the excess pops on it and giving it away.

>>379166184
you're really missing out with Aurora 4x, but even without it: Distant Worlds and Sword of the Stars come to mind.

>download a mod that lets me play as loli
>download a mod that lets me keep my loli pick when I transcend into robots
>download a mod that lets me force transcend other races into my robot race

Nicly.

>>379166324
>slave pops and your own dudes distributed properly

Oh, I just keep my slave planets and my founder race planets completely separate. It works better with how planet modifiers like +25/50% minerals work.

>>379159745
just won a federation victory and it was as hollow and unsastisfying as i expected it to be. i may finally drop the money on the dlc and try for a 'real' win

>>379166753
Yeah I need source for the first two mods.

Are any of the recent 4Xs better than MoO2?

>>379166871
That's incredibly inefficient now that Unity exists as a resource, sadly.

>>379167043
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=901045072

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=862509522

Second is kinda old and might make your game crash if you run it with to many other mods,
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=687948674
Is Another option should it not work with other mods.

>>379167226
Aurora 4x is great if you're willing to look past the hideous UI.

>>379159745
Pretty good. Just got done going through a power crises which always seems to happen in this game. I'm currently the local powerhouse after mulching through the United federation of planets and their fucking like year 10 federation. I have really underpowered ships due to just a lack of tech but With my fleet capacity I'm able to just swarm. Luckily since I went robots my mineral production is able to keep up with my stations constantly pumping out shits to reinforce the front. Before you ask I have like 100 mods running right now so yeah.

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>>379167764
Also got this which will be fun to attack at some point.

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>>379167764
Fucking pic didn't attach.

>>379167764
I went through my first power crises last game I did, never again
>power runs out
>can't maintain mineral mines
>can't get enough minerals to properly build enough power stations
>struggle for 10 years before I get everything back together

>>379167226
Endless Space 2 is going to be up there in like 6 months

>>379159745
>start playing as humans
>a black hole start talking to me
>become REAL humans

hahaha what was will be haha

>>379164376
>playing endless anything
all they've done is garbage.

How are people posting pics with 65 planets manageable?


Also anyone got any tips? Some of the slave management things peopple mentioned sound cool

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doing a heavily modded MP game, the scourge just showed up at the very end of my empire and is only expanding towards me. we're holding them off but the sheer number of 150k fleets they have is wearing us down.

>>379167608
Never got into it, even though i really like DF. Is there a guide that can ease me into it?

>>379167934
It seems to happen every game that I play. Everything will be fine until I get to the colonial centralization bottleneck. That tech always seems to pop up AFTER I already have building tech that needs a capital on a planet.

>>379168316
Check the Aurora wiki. otherwise youtube.

>>379168183
Mods

Tips about what specifically? Slave managment is about getting your slave races to all your mines and farms mainly, and keeping unrest under control

>>379168029
Endless Space 2 is already in the trash bin and wouldn't go anywhere from there
>>379167226
No, all standard 4x space game are literally moo2 and galciv2 but worse without features and charm of them
Stellaris isn't even 4x game, but roleplay experience
Distant worlds and aurora are just plainly boring if you aren't autist

>>379168427
Thought so, thanks man.

>>379168238
You cant play defensively against them. They get free fleets almost as soon as you kill them. Let them expand then jump into the middle of their territory and start glassing worlds. Normally they only send one fleet back to stop you. Once you start getting their infested plants down they get far less free fleets and you can start whittling them down.

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I had an authoritarian fanatic spiritual empire that was in a cold war with two materialist empires for the early game. A devouring swarm ate one of them and I rushed to absorb the remnants. I allied with a nearby hive mind to fight the swarm off, and then turned around and killed the hive with the help of his pissed off neighbors. I have a million species within my empire and my original one only makes up about 25% of the population. All will revere the flame or face consecration by it.

>>379168183
I fucking hate sectors. No matter WHAT "improvements they make they are always fucking retarded. I'm talking taking a forge world from an empire and they will just delete half of the +30 mineral plants. They just cant handle special buildings at all and ALWAYS want to destroy them. If I could I would just turn sector AI off and hand them finished planets.

>>379166184
Get yourself Crusader Kings 2
download a mod called "Crisis of the Confederation"

there you have it - game of galactic thrones in space.

>hit 50k fleet strength
>FE awakens
>see it has 130k fleet strength
>expand and grow fleet for 50 years hoping I can match strength
>have 300k fleet strength
>fleet is so big it won't even bring up the options for splitting the fleet and/or make it a rally point
>think I'm about ready to fight them
>awakened faggot declares war on me
> 650k fleet strength

g fucking, g

>>379168462
>No, all standard 4x space game are literally moo2 and galciv2 but worse without features and charm of them
what about Sword of the Stars, Space Empires

>Distant worlds and aurora are just plainly boring if you aren't autist
Aurora I can understand, but DW? perfectly playable unless you're a moron.

one of the oldfag empires awoke and began starting shit with me.

Built ~150k fleet of close combat ships, put fortresses all over one system with lots of auras overlapping, and a magnet fortress in the center.

awakened Faggots jumped in with their ~250k and got shat on by my 150k fleet because they couldn't snipe with their OP lances.

shortly there after everything became so goddamed slow and I stopped playing.

>>379168643

You should just be able to hand a blueprint to the governor and have it follow it. It would fix almost every problem with the sector AI.

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>>379168686
I for one welcome the life of the battle thrall.

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I'm taking a break to play some Endless Space 2.

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Pretty good, decided to play as a hivemind and surprisingly got few alliances

>>379168686
The only time you can take them down by yourself is before or right after awakening
They can outproduce anyone just by spamming their special buildings
Wait for the another to awaken and finish winner or become their slave

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>>379168970
A charismatic hive mind can get hilarious if you suddenly turn into a devouring swarm after making a bunch of friends.

>mfw friendly space ants suddenly start turning my citizens into meals

>>379168686

Put autocannons on all your shit, close range setup on everything. Then sprinkle fortresses into a single system and have the center fortress be a magnet warp trap. Lure FE fleet into this system and have your 300k fleet absolutely shit on their 600k fleet.

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??? ???? ??

>>379169172
????

>>379168686
>do synth awakening rush
>after I manage to do that a spiritual empire awakening and immediately declares war on me

On the other end
>Get a fleet size so fucking massive some point after 2M it gets a negative number
>Almost every single empire declares war on me

>>379169172
Looks like a broken mod

>>379169141

I can't even update my fleet because having your fleet get that large breaks the ui.

I'm mostly upset because I was doing everything right and the game just fucks me like this.

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>Find a system filled with millions of destroyed ships
>Intact but powered down station in the middle of it all
>Scan it
>Do you wish to power it up?
>"What could go wrong?"
>Station is fully powered up and staffed!
>Cool
>"We have lost contact with those sent to staff the strange station"
>Oh no...
>Save and warp in my 3k fleet just to see what were dealing with
>Every ship is almost instantly destroyed even though they are at the edge of the gravity well

Well fuck. When zoomed in it also makes this noise like metal screaming in pain. So yeah that's a thing.

>>379168525
yeah, we're noticing. gonna start moving into their territory next session.
also the number of fleets in action is making the game slowdown like crazy, takes like 5 minutes for 1 month to pass.

>>379169172
Oh its THAT tech. Dont research it unless you want some shit to go down. It basically leads to summoning demons from hell and they start fucking up the galaxy.

>>379169257
Even if you can't update through the UI, you should be able to select your fleet and right-click on a planet with a space station, then select the "upgrade to latest designs" option.

>>379169172
>>379169431
> It basically leads to summoning demons from hell and they start fucking up the galaxy.

That sounds fun, mod?

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>>379169431
>Dont research it
It's well too late for that

>>379169360
The prethoryn eventually run out of the logistic capacity to stop fleets from fucking their shit, at least back in banks. I would manage to glass worlds and warp out before their fuckfleet could arrive. I rinse and repeated until they were nothing but a fleet and some stations in now uninhabited territory. I thought it was cool that they left an effectively lawless zone, seems like pirate heaven.

Why cant I get more games with Stellarforming? only game I know of is SE.

Terraforming is fun but why bother terraforming a planet when you can make an entire sun go nova, thus turning all the planets into asteroid fields then condense the resulting nebula into a new sun and the asteroid fields into a brand new planet?

>>379168643
> fucking hate sectors. No matter WHAT "improvements they make they are always fucking retarded. I'm talking taking a forge world from an empire and they will just delete half of the +30 mineral plants. They just cant handle special buildings at all and ALWAYS want to destroy them. If I could I would just turn sector AI off and hand them finished planets.
Oh fuck. This is the reason I am not touching this shit game again until something is done about sectors. The game came out a year ago and these incompetents are still struggling with core concepts.

>>379169638
>not using the mod to have 99 core sector worlds

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>>379169431

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so the war in heaven actually ended with a white peace, didn't know it could happen

other FE got destroyed by non aligned league (basically me, the one other AI that managed to keep up and a bunch of cannon fodder) and then after a few months of war got the white peace offer

end result: everything not purple is a battle thrall under the awakened FE, combined fleet sizes of both alliances are about equal and the galactic cold war has begun

>>379169705

Except the game is balanced around sectors existing. You can mod the game to do that, but it messes up things like ascension perks that give you more core worlds and other things.

This game looks o fun, going to buy in a few weeks after exams, is a xeno hating imperium still viable after all the expansions?

>>379170193
>>379169705
>>379169638
Honestly I just feel the best way around it is to build moderately tall using habitats/ring worlds then force everyone around you into vassals. You get to keep a strong empire while your AI minions can deal with the shitty AI managing.

>>379169802
This is some star wars shit right here

>>379170249
you can get the fanatic purifier modifier which gives you massive combat boosts in exchange for disabling all attempts at diplomacy permanently

>>379169313
>see skull
>try to kill it with 3k stack
lol

>>379170403
And how about keeping my empire pure of xenos? Especially when I take their planets, is it possible to glass their planets kill all aliums then resettle it with humans?

>>379170548
What part of fanatic purifiers don't you understand

>Start war
>win some empires planets
>genetically alter them to fucking suck
>give the planets back
>laugh as the retarded AI struggles to deal with sinkholes in their empire.

I don't remeber if it was a mod or not but I had this one trait the was basicly the equivalent to chemical bliss, removed happiness as a factor but mad populations worthless.

>>379170649
Neural clipping or something like that.

>>379170767
>>379170649
Nerve stapling

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>>379170619

>>379170548
You can do a boring old purge or you could genetically modify them to be super tasty and keep them as livestock

>>379170548
You also get an Armageddon bombardment stance which should allow you to bomb them dead.

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>>379159745
I got the game in the humble monthly but I hit a wall. First time playing such a complex game, I have no idea what to do. Send help please

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>>379170381
this is what it looks like in empire view

pretty diverse alliance overall, there's a bunch of smaller democracies of all flavors (moral, regular and theocratic), 2 kingdoms, one of which practices slavery (the smallest one at that, larger one bans all aliens but has pretty high living standards), a hivemind, and the 2 leaders of the alliance, me the robot technocracy and the utterly massive galactic megacorporation which consists of, by last count, around 30 species. I'm assuming they actually bought entire empires.

>>379170374

I just put as many buildings in place before putting it into a sector and disable redevelopment. Occasionally I eat some influence and take over for a bit to make everything optimal.

Still doesn't fix that putting everything into a single sector is better than having a bunch of ones because of governor influence cost and cost to drain the mineral and energy stores. Is there even any downside to this?

>>379170951
>implying anything other than purging the xeno is acceptable

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You tell me.

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Superior game, coming through.

>>379171150
Post full galaxy

>>379171150
>Everlasting

Unbidden were here, tell your leaders we said Lol

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>>379171207
I think this was after I beat the Unbidden. Woke up the FE to help me, but did jack shit. Then it attacked a FE and the game made super weird alliances that were the opposite of what they were at the start of the game.

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i just want 1 ggod fucking 4x ggame all these games do 1 thing right and fuck up everything else

>>379171150
Unless your fleets are keeping other empires in check and moderate losses would be enough to tip that that's kind of a good thing. Unbidden can be terrifying if left to grow by shitty AIs blocking you, but they're pretty easy to rush down to remove.

>>379171387
how would that work? you cant make it work.

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Getting really bored of it since all of the last remaining empires, including the awakened empire with the gay af heart are in a big federation, so i can only grab a few systems every 10 years so it is getting really slow but i'd say i did pretty well
I don't know if it would be possible to have a mod where you get ot keep every planet oyu conquer in a war, that would be nice in this case

Honestly, now I want fantasy stellaris like game from the paradox
Something like fall from the heaven and orbis theme wise

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Are you hyped for the new proper AI crisis?

>>379170506
Its from a mod that adds in super late game shit that can tun into end game crisis in their own right so I was curious to see what would happen. I was not disappointed.

>>379168659
Shit, did it get updated?
Really liked where it was going

>>379170548
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=687358103&searchtext=glass

I love this mod. I love glassing worlds as fanatic purifiers.

>Deeper Federations that start out as loose alliances and can eventually be turned into single states through diplomatic manuevering.
>Superweapons and planet killers.
>More story events and reactive narratives that give a sense of an unfolding story as you play.
>More interesting mechanics for pre-FTL civilizations.
>A 'galactic community' with interstellar politics and a 'space UN'.
>Buildable Dreadnoughts and Titans.
>Reworking the endgame crises to be more balanced against each other and the size/state of the galaxy.
>Reworks to war to address the 'doomstacks' issue and make the strategic and tactical layers of warfare more interesting and less micro-intensive.
>Deeper mechanics and unique portraits for synthetics.
One more year and Stellaris will finally beat/be on the level of the galciv2
God damn, I miss planet killers

>>379172194
mod link?

>>379172376
>GalCiv2
Why is the sequel so bad compared to it?

>>379172174
New AI crisis? What? Tell me more that looks cool as shit. I thought it was a mod at first.

>>379172479
Same reason why endless space1/2 was garbage too, same with age of wonder 3
Modern developers hate fun
But hey, galciv3 still had amazing diplomacy window
>>379172496
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-72-crises-the-contingency.1026439/

>>379172465
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=792416294

Its supposed to be really good. I cant wait to see them in action. The A.I. can trigger them and piss them off as well so you can get bullshit spreading from the other side of the galaxy so be warned.

>>379172613
Whats going to happen t the old A,I, crisis just completely scrapped?

>>379172732
>Just as with the Extradimensionals and Scourge, there is additional events and hidden lore to be discovered regarding the Contingency, and synthetic empires will have special interactions and challenges related to it. The Contingency completely replaces the old AI uprising crisis, but we are currently looking at also implementing a new AI uprising, not as a galactic scale crisis but as a midgame event localized to one or a few empires. But more on that later!
At least you could read link

>>379168643
i just do the developing for them and when i hand the planets to a sector i turn off the redevelopment option so they leave my shit alone

>>379159745
Badly.

Colonized a holy Gaia planet.

>>379172918
I've done that but they act like little mini nations. They don't handle specialization so if they run into power problems or food problems it over rides the no redevelopment. I dont know if its fixed but some special builds are "invisible" to sector ai like that one building that gives you +10 to each research that spawns on gaia worlds. The sector A.I. will redevelop it thinking its not doing anything.

>>379172827
I am anon. But I like to keep Stellaris threads bumped. I have them drop off the face of the map in the time I read things like that.

>>379173072
i watched one of my opponents and a holy FE duke it out over one of those for something like 150 years my last game. kept both of them occupied while the rest of us actually advanced

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>>379172174
>>379172613
Very hyped. I'll give this another two years, maybe it'll be good after that.

>>379172479
What's wrong with the sequel?

>>379173447
I think i lucked out though. Even though they hate my guts and are 10X more powerful than me i think they are pacifists.

What are some go to mods for you guys?

>>379173802
normally they will remove you from the gaia world, humilliate you then let you go. You need to piss em off ROYALLY for them to actually attack you if they aren't awakened

>>379173825

Honestly I haven't seen a single non-cosmetic/UI mod I've liked. Too many of them just fuck up the game balance, which is the most important thing in a strategy game.

Why are federations so useless? I always want to make one but it turns into way to much of a hassle. Have they said anything about improving them? I think it would be better if when created it "remapped" everything that joined into a new nation and each empire acts like a sector. From their everyone just votes on what the rules and everything is for everyone. Then let people make "unsanctioned" wars and deals and stuff on their own with outsiders and then make "sanctioned" wars and stuff that are deals and wars that everyone in the federation are pulled into.

>>379162121
Those meson guns are the fucking worst, how is that allowed?
The absolute worst

>>379174198
It think the federation is fine just recruit the biggest bro race into it and let them do the work.

How's the ship vs ship combat here? Like Homeworld?

>>379162121
What game are you talking about

>>379174232
their damage output is pathetically weak though.

>>379172613
>At the start of the game, it is dormant, broadcasting a weak signal across the galaxy that affects Synthetics in unpredictable ways.

Oh shit nice. I love shit that exists in the galaxy from the start but doesn't really play a factor until later.

>>379174518
Aurora
>>379174646
Doesn't matter about damage output when you can just shoot straight into the ship's reactor and blow it up

>>379174518
Aurora

>>379162486
Lol learn to accept that shit doesnt always goes your way you weak bitch

>>379169802
do you just have a shitload of habitats, or how did you get that mineral count

LOGH mod or reaper war mod when?

>>379174809
>shoot straight into the ship's reactor and blow it up
really depends on your reactor tech and design. if you use risky tech you get risky ships

I want them to prioritize these things
>quality of life improvements and bugfixes
>diplomacy overhaul
>tons more events, event chains, colonization events, anomalies, everything
>more endgame crises
>galactic UN

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>>379167764
>>379167934
Do you have a habit of leaving your fleets hanging outside spaceports perchance?
I have a Dyson Sphere and its still not enough

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>Find a derelict ship on a planet
>Boot it up
>Get this

Nice. Its still early game so this will add a nice boost to my DPS. I'm scared of that psi jump drive though. I don't want the unbidden to rape my face.

>>379175660
Jesus. Do you have the spaceship equivalent of the F35 in there?

>>379175487
I want them not to force people to use unity for diplomacy
And to let me slaughter individual pops without the need for commands

>>379175660
Nope I have my fleets parked at all times. Them leaving causes a fucking depression across my worlds some games. My last game before this if I mobilized every ship I would go from +35 to -200. Shit was ridiculous. Its just like I said I run into tech bottle necks that cause them for me. Once I get the tech and can upgrade my buildings I'm normally good to go.

>>379175827
>This nigga finds a battleship
How? I always end up with destroyers 100% of the time

>>379159745
I get the Guardian event where a wraith spawns from a Pulsar and starts wandering around deleting my infrastructure.

After wiping a few systems clean and reaming my navy a new asshole it happened to wander into a system with a very powerful Pirate fleet one 10k stack and another 20k stack. It managed to take out the 10k stack and reduced the 20k to 10k before going down. Could have gone a lot worse than that.

>>379175969
I miss the individual pop purging
I understand they did it to avoid people cheesing the new faction system, but why? An authoritarian shithole should be able to purge dissidents, and the consequence of that is a more united but less populous empire
Plus sometimes you just need to control slave population a little

>>379176182
Well now you have a pirate fleet made of the toughest sons of bitches in the galaxy.

>>379176256
This desu, why even spanw a democratic faction in an autocratic goverment? Also, I should be able anyways to purge this chaos makers out of my utopic empire

>>379176080
I have around 100 mods running under the hood so probably one of them. One game I got a fucking titan flag ship. They found it encased in the ice caps on the poles. Getting it out flooded the planet and turned it into an ocean world but fuck was it worth it. That thing instantly turned me into the strongest chap on the block. Its would single handedly take out whole fleets.

The flip side of it though is that the A.I can get these events too. That same game one of the A.I. went full fucking retarded and started following the worm that waits. They went from a one system nothing into owning half of the discovered galaxy. They had all the loop buildings that pumped out like +20 and they had loop tech that was on par with enigmatic tech. dukeing it out with them was fuck as fuck but I was losing badly. It took a fallen empire awaking to their aggressiveness to kick them into line.

I thought suppressing a faction would make it disappear over time but it's not doing shit.

>>379175078
synthetic ascension, turned all of my farms into mines. also a 24 slot exceptional mineral quality planet. good for 260 minerals by itself

>>379176710
You can never fully make it disappear. Once its in the single digits its basically as small as it will get. What its primarily used for is to make that faction unattractive so pops join other factions.

>>379176907
Actually I've made a faction disappear
if you do the synthetic ascension your spiritualist faction will automatically vanish because it's impossible for synthetic pops to be part of the spiritualist faction even if they are spiritualist themselves (for obvious reasons)

>>379167876

>year 2249
>core planets 65

Why do you cheat? Doesn't this kill any sort of fun for you?

>>379176080
You can get cruiser for sure

>>379177152
see
>>379168643

The sector A.I. is fucking retarded and ruins my economy. I normally specialize planets to a T and sectors will go in and fuck it all up.

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>get endless space for 1 yurops
>my first 4x game, no idea what is going on
>watch some tutorials
>7 hours later have some idea what is going on
>learn that AI gets bonuses from easy mode and up
>25 hours played and have yet to get past round 60
Is this why civ 5 is one of the most played games on steam?

>>379176907

You should be able to do something to remove them. Expend influence to execute the leader or something.

>>379172174

So does that just remove the Voight Kampff achievement? Because I don't see how it would fit contextual-wise with the new take on the AI crisis.

>actually manage to do synth ascension fast enough one of my original scientists is alive

pretty neat feeling, he's been alive for 250 years now

>>379177315

Fair enough, I agree with you on that.

Doesn't this mess with achievements or online?

Distant Worlds is the patrician's Stellaris.

I'd go on to say Aurora is even more so, but it runs like shit.

>>379159745
Daily reminder that 10000 Minerals worth of red laser Corvettes will be cheaper and stronger than 10000 minerals worth of any combination of other ships or technologies. This includes upkeep cost.

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>Become the patron of an artisan troop
>They give me the ministry of culture pretty fast
>Pretty happy all around
>Organize a festival
>They fucking steal 5500 power and 7500 minerals
>Now they wont fucking respond to my hails

Oh sweet baby fuck once I can they will rue the fucking day they stole from me.

>>379177624
The C# should fix those performance issues

>>379177878
after a while they'll start responding to your hails again, it just takes a decade or 2

but yeh they're a bunch of dirty hippies

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>>379177574
Not at all. Achievements mean nothing to me and I don't have any friends that are into 4x games.

>>379166184

Galactic Civilizations II ( I haven't tried III so can't comment on it )

>>379177386
I agree but look at it in real life terms. Its an abstraction so its not perfect. I take it as its all the people that have those views but don't fully express them. Like a gay guy who tells no one. He is unhappy and it may affect his work productivity but no one knows the true reason why.

>>379168686
Hard counter their ships mate. You can take out an awakened fleet over twice your fleet power if your ships are set up right.

How rare are the flotillas? I got them ONCE in the first game I played after the utopia update but I haven't seen them since.

>>379178657
I don't even know what they are

>>379178657

The wandering shits that are basically Quarians of Stellaris? I had them only pop up once for me and that was before they fucked off outside the galaxy.

>>379177878
On an unrelated note, destroying their stations doesn't incur a diplomatic penalty with everyone unlike the other enclaves.

Foundation mod When?

>>379178805
Yeah

>>379178763
They are nomads with huge fleets that move from system to system.

>The Nomads, or Namarians as they call themselves, are a passive millennia old intergalactic race with no homeworld, forever traveling the void in their starships. Once they establish communications the nomads will act as a sort of "bridge" between the player and unknown alien empires, and the player is likely to soon be barraged by a large amount of "Communications Established" events as more and more alien empires are discovered by the nomads, and, by extension, the player. They travel from system to system and their stay in the galaxy is temporary and will eventually set sail for another one.

I really liked them the first time I encountered them.

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By the way, do you liked immersion pack ideas from the eu4? I know turks and germans were buttdevastated about name on the forum, but idea of cheap addon with mechanics only for one type nations sounds neat
Wouldn't mind someting like this in stellaris for humanoids and etc

>>379178657
I've only encountered them once, they showed up asked if some of their guys could settle on a planet and then fucked off for good

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>>379159949
>galactic empire
>full citizenship

you doing it wrong

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My current game, tried to play a slaver faction. Shame that slavery sucks so much cock right now.

Looking at this thread it feels like I'm the only ones who prefer ring type galaxy

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Force and jedi order/sith ripoffs fucking when

>>379179807
The force is already in the game. Still no factions surrounding it however.

>>379179510
There was a good slavery mod that added slave trader enclaves but apparently the utopia update broke it and the developer said fuck it. Someday we will have a good slave system ;_;

So why did they remove auras and bonuses in specific spaceports anyway
Outside of hating fun that is

>>379180586
>bonuses in specific spaceports
Pretty sure it's still here

>>379179016
Like, Quarians?

>>379180714
Let me rephrase it
Why did they remove refineries

>Vermilion system
>Rantemario system
>Mar-Addetta system
Just add some Dvörak to the ost if you really want to make me cry that much

>>379159745
Became robotic gods, tch no problem bud

>>379169508
There isn't one, anon just pulled that straight out of his ass. It's a bug.

>>379169431
So, the Unnbiden?

>>379169508

He's lying but you can destroy the Universe by going psionic and summoning the Shroud

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I actually kinda feel bad for doing this now. At least their citizens will live good lives in my empire. Shouldn't of been dicks and started incorporating EVERYONE into that damn federation blocking me off from expanding at all.

>Just blew up the Unbidden portal
>There's still a fuckload of Unbidden ships around their space
>No one can fight them because my fleets are too small and the rest of the galaxy was skullfucked by a Fallen Empire
At least the galaxy is safer now than it was before

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>>379159949
Fucking Xenos

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>>379181416
>You will never conquer the entire galaxy with the help of the End of the Cycle
>You will never reenact the Third Impact when the Reckoning tangs all sentient life
>You will never see the fruit of your labor, the Reckoning entity, spawned from the collective consciousness of all sentient life

>>379181760
That's when they open another portal

Any tips for a first-time 4x babby?
Like what not to do?
Or what to do?

>>379174331
Like Sins of a Solar Empire. You have little actual control of combat once it's joined. It's all about how you set up your ships and fleets ahead of time.

>>379182137
You're shitting me

>>379182161
>Like what not to do?
skip the tutorial
>Or what to do?
Play the tutorial

>>379182198
They cant in the base game. With a mod they can though. In a game I lost they had three portals open just shitting out ships. Luckily I just evacuated the whole galaxy. Gathered up all my people on ships and set out for the next galaxy over. So at least my people survived.

>>379182161
Simple don't try to "win" for the first few games. Just play and enjoy the ride. Watching your empire implode because of your own stupid choices you thought were good at the time is fun as fuck.

>>379159745
dammit. My friends are playing this and I forgot to pick it up in the humble bundle.

Is it fun? I've never played a grand strategy really, closest is Civ V

>>379182483
Nigger, this ain't Dwarf Fortress. If my Empire's facing annihilation, I'm gonna fight it tooth and nail.

>>379182040
I actually once painted the whole galaxy as my empire and started to shitting it up everywhere just for the lulz
>Listening to Komm Susser todd while everywhere is revolting

>>379161159
Can you use pirated DLC on steam vanilla?

>>379182360
So do you start again ala new game+ or is that a game over?

>>379182824
Well, yeah obviously but people fall into the trap of restarting their game over and over again when shit hits the fans.

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Well now I know why that patch of space north of me is empty. God damn it.

>>379182958
Yes, even achievements work. I needed to download the separate DLC from a piracy forum, since nobody seems to include those in torrents as a separate file.

>>379182979
Game over. But I did make a new empire with the "space born" trait that I fluffed as their descendants.

>>379183130
That's great, thanks!
There shouldn't be any issues with steam account? Banning and such.. I'm asking because some time ago I wanted to pirate the Crusader Kings 2 DLC and I haven't found anything about this.

>>379183313
>There shouldn't be any issues with steam account?
Who knows? I have used creamapi since it's inception and used steam servers to play online on pirated copies since 2012 and haven't heard one case of Valve banning people for that. Either they are incapable as fuck, which is possible, or don't give a shit.

>>379182360
But they do that in the base game.

>>379183093
>tfw forcing a FE to declare war on you by colonizing sacred worlds and provocking them

>>379183473
Great, thanks.
I quit Stellaris vanilla after 30 hrs, I hear good things about Utopia.

>>379183584
Nigga I got a 4k fleet right now. I'm not suicidal.

>>379183495
Can they? I thought it was rigged that once you snipe the portal thats it.

Now that I've basically stopped the Unbidden (they won't leave their cordon now, not unless we get too close), the only major hurdle for galactic civilization left is the Fallen Empire that's conquered most of the galaxy.
Though I fear it might be too late for us.With their kind of power, even my mighty empire combined with some of the other less powerful empires wouldn't stand a chance.

>>379177463
No the infiltration is still going to be there

>achievement hunting
>4+ achievements that require some obscure combination of RNG and for you to be playing the right kind of empire for it
I'll never get them all

>>379178657
The only time I've ever encountered them is playing as a fanatic purifier empire
They showed up, asked if they could drop off 3 pops
I said yes and promptly processed them into food
Dunno why they thought that was a good idea

>>379183640
Always check cs.rin.ru threads when you want to know the current status about cracks/dlc/whatever, they always have everything you need

>>379183849

So this will be a new thing completely? Probably part of the paid features part of DLC, like Titans and Planet Killers.

>>379184563

AI rebellions are being downgraded to a smaller but more frequent disaster that has a chance to happen.

The end-game crisis is being replaced with this new thing.

>whining about muh DLC
How do you fags not know how paradox games work by now?
You buy the base game and pirate all the DLC

>>379184735

Wonder how it will interact with your species if you'd gone full Synth.

>>379184887
They said there'll be unique interactions

>>379184887

They confirmed it'll have a unique effect. I'm guessing maybe you side with the enemy and wipe out the fleshbags.

>>379184869
I bought stellaris and both main dlc
No regrets

>>379184869
It's a dumb business model in the long run.
You get a new player coming along, look at EU4 and see $200 of DLC and NOPE the fuck out of that.

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>>379183093
So this is that Fallen Empire that was to the north of me.

>Eye of despair

This game loves to taunt me. I get the three other big empires and all of their vassles to the south of me in one big union of fucking treaties that would put WW1 to shame and they all hate me and to the north fucking this. Knowing my luck this faggot is going to be the one to awaken since Im a robot using materialist and they are super psionic spiritualists. No idea what my plan is going forward now.

>>379185147
That's what sales are for.

They really need to make the namelists bigger, I'm tired of seeing all the same race names
Also some of the namelists are just shit

>>379159745
I put on a shitload of mods as soon as 1.5 came out, and then the save kept crashing on the same date by ~2420, haven't touched it since.

endless space 2 is better

>>379185018
>>379184887
>>379184992

It wont be that. None of the crisis will ever have options that let you side step the danger. It will be like psionics and the scourge where you find out the history and lore but still end up fighting.

>>379185281
You're better off that I am
The spiritualist woke up mid game and fucking destroyed everyone, including two other Fallen Empires, one which woke up later when I unleashed the Unbidden. If these guys have taken down two Fallen Empire along with most of the galaxy, the remaining empires here have no hope of survival.

Anyone want to play with me?

>have a good save going
>update comes in
>awakened empire goes from having several 60K fleet power fleets to having 250K fleet power fleets

Is that supposed to happen? I was actually getting ready to invade the awakened empire, but then out of nowhere they bumped up to 200+K fleets

>play as egalatarian, xenophile empire
>right next to me are Holy Guardians and Militant Isolationists

>>379185593

What's the lore behind the Scourge and the Unbidden anyway?

>>379185678
No
Civ4 with caveman2cosmos mod is the only 4x game I play with other people

>Fallen empire awakens on the other side of the galaxy
>Scourge spawns on the right next to it
>They completely ignore each other and both go after me
>1.5m worth of fleet power going in raw in my butt

Not even lube could save me

>>379185761
>What's the lore behind the Scourge
Literally tyranids ripoff, run from something even more scary by devouring galaxies and moving into next one. Possible end of cycle
Unbidden just a shitheads who want to fuck you over and get back into their own dimension, know and afraid of shroud

>>379185761
The Prethoryn Scourge are fleeing from something much, much worse (the word Prethoryn literally means "refugee/survivor") which they call "The Hunters". In short, they're the Tyranids
The Unbidden are warp predators from a dimension close to the Shroud. Basically they're the Orz but less goofy

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Ha

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>tfw devouring swarms
>tfw everyone has protectorates and cant do shit without getting raped

should i give up?

>>379186193
Mod or main game one?

>playing largest galaxy size
>4 fallen empires
>one wakes up and starts conquering
>a second one wakes up in response
>they declare war on each other and demand the newer empires join either side
>join neither and lead the rest of the galaxy against them, forced to declare war on both of them
>some massive guy with about 1/4 of the galaxy conquered joined a fallen empire
>entire galaxy is in an all-out war
That was fun.

>manage to win by occupying the fallen empire's allies
>eventually got enough warscore to wipe them off the map without actually fighting them or occupying any of their planets
>after it's all over, the federation is disbanded
>except it only kicked me out and everyone else stayed in it

>the Prethoryn Scourge arrive on the other side of the galaxy
>I can't get there because everyone hates me and closed borders for genociding someone 200 years ago (I'm playing as a hive mind)
>they slowly blob out
>a third fallen empire awakens to fight the threat to the galaxy
>they sit on their asses and do nothing at all
>eventually the Scourge will reach my borders and there's nothing I can do to stop it

>>379186043

>Prethoryn literally means refugee
>they come into your galaxy and ruin the place for everyone else

What did Paradox mean by this?

>>379186249
Bide your time. Build up your fleet and tech. Maybe colonize a few planets.
There's no real time limit on wiping out the rest of the galaxy.

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>>379186193
>Boatmurdered in spess

>>379186292
Mod

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=727000451

>>379186718
Shame
Could be good for shitposting in the endless space 2 threads
On the other hand they don't even get threads anymore

How many DLC until the game feels complete?

How do I into space gommunism?

I'm kind of surprised there's no Vorlon/Shadow equivalent of FE/AE in Stellaris.

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>Go through lengthy, risky, and expensive teraforming process
>Get this worthless trash

God damn it game I really hate you some times.

>>379187245
Fanatic authoritarian with purging and slavery on :----D

>>379187554
Terraforming really needs an overhaul, give it a reason to be done, give it bonuses, etc etc

>>379187713
Oh there are lots of reasons to do it. This was to turn a barren planet into a colonizable one.

>>379187713
At least it's better than it was in vanilla

>>379187713
To be fair, terraforming is a lot cheaper and quicker than modifying your race to live on a new planet.Unless you only modify one planet's worth of pop and use them to colonize that planet type.

>>379187825
It's too bad that terraforming candidate is such a rare anomaly

>>379166184
Distant Worlds can fuck you up, give it a go. You can automate everything, but only pussies do that.

So I just started. For the first hour I'm doing nothing but surveying. Can't even build a new colony ship because my mineral production is just +10.
Am I doing anything wrong?
Pretty comfy though.

What's the best soluble to learn this game from?

>>379188496
same problem here famalam, I have lots of hours in Civ V but stellaris feels like im playing on an archipelago map

also, I cant expand anymore cause theres pirate fleets with 1k power everywhere around me and I just reached my fleet count limit and its only 600 fleet power, is there a solution?

>>379188496
Nope. If you want that colony you gotta save up. There are benefits to rushing a colony or cleaning up your home system both. I normally colonize immediately if I have a candidate.

>>379188496

No, first part of the game is mostly scouting for colonizable planets and meeting AIs.

>>379188742
New map. Basically their are different "neutral" factions sprinkled across the galaxy. You just got unlucky and got spawned close to them.

>>379188816
>>379188824
Oh okay. Guess I'll keep surveying until I find another mineral-rich system.

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Post yfw military hivemind

How is EU4 these days?

>>379189674
Bloated with as many mechanics they can squeeze in to discourage blobbing and everything fun removed

>>379189674
texas mayo

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recommend me a good youtube tutorial on this game

waiting for new DLC to pirate so that the empire sim aspects can become more fun

>>379190076
Play a game on non-ironman mode and use cheats to help you along. This would give you a good grasp of the game.

>>379190076
is that wonder woman?

>>379172613
Age of wonders 3 is a good combat focused 4x

>>379187985
Why can I not just start Robot colonies?

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That was kinda sad

First reply decide my new empire

is food actually good for anything?

>>379192736
it's good for not starving

>>379192736
Farms are broken as all fuck with the agrarian ideal and inward perfection civics. Crazy amount of unity per month.

>>379192675
Wernax State
Authoritarian Materialist Xenophobe
OIigarchy, Citizen Service, Shadow Council

>>379192736

Surplus gives you extra growth. Otherwise it does nothing.

>>379192638
Not as sad as the Cybrex

They're synthetics who were trying to exterminate all organics
Then at some point for reasons unknown they just stopped and retreated to their homeworld.
The other races eventually found it and killed them all, the Cybrex didn't resist.

>>379193023
Pacifism though

>>379192638

Honestly, they should add more Precursor empires, the ones we have are kind of boring. Not to mention, the only good one are the Cybrex due to the Ringworld you can repair, even without having Utopia.

>>379193395
They will for sure
In the dlc

>>379177371
Civ also cheats :(

I'm gonna make a LOGH space empire

What traits/civics should I use? Authoritarian/Militaristic and ???

Aristocratic elite obvious choice

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>>379192638
>Complete all the precursor artifact quests
>Find their home system
>It's directly in the middle of the empire that hates you the most

>>379194602
Something that best represents overrated shit.

>>379194635

>spend a shitload of time and resources to build up my fleets so I can overtake the Prethoryn Scourge before they can spread
>just barely make it, contained them to a single system and waiting for the Queen to spawn
>it spawns
>rush in as fast as I can to kill everything
>just as my science ship warps in, one of the other empires has already started researching it

You have no idea how mad I was. I exterminated them the moment I could recover my old fleet strength. Didn't even bother keeping them as slaves, just fucking purge.

>>379194602
Depends, early Goldenbaum, late Goldenbaum or Lohengramm empire? Because ol' Rudolf's empire was full 1488 purge the weak.

>>379194876
Fuck you, federation dog

>>379194951
I guess Police State would make the most sense

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>running a slaving empire
>equality faction pops up every single month

>>379194980
>using dog as an insult
as expected from mushit animerasts

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>>379169431
>>379169172
>>379169508

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>want to be space switzerland from start and continue developing while ignoring space politics unless attacked
>everyone being a dick towards me and I eventually snap and turn into space hitler

>try being space hitler, fused with space stalin, fused with space genghis khan, fused with the ethereals from xcom, fused with pic related, from the start
>basically enslave primites, make species that fill specific roles (one for mining other for energy other for soldiers etc) while being a space psychic powered dick from the start
>all primitive species have worthless traits and all space empires are hippie faggots that form federations or have worthless stats themselves and fleets that I could squish so easily it wouldn't even be fun
I think I'm gonna let the crisis eat the galaxy this run.

I just got this, would I be ruining the game for myself if I started my first play through as the United Nations of Earth?

I'd change the president to a white guy but other than that it would just be default

>>379182198
They can
If they capture a portion of the galaxy the aberrant come in and wreck the rest of the galaxy, and if they aren't done, the vehement roll in to make you the supreme JUSTice
Better take out those fleets now :^)

>>379196572
The portal's closed and their last constructor is dead IIRC. They can't do shit, but I can't do shit

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>>379186417
>wiz
>Jewish
>unknowingly screws up his own agenda

>>379196484
This game heavily relies on you to make your own fun. So role play whatever you want. If you want to be humans doing human things and going WOW at the universe go for it.

>>379196795
I think you're safe
Aberrant need a high percentage like 50% of the galaxy taken by the unbidden to spawn
Vehement take military power to come in I think
So you're safe since they can't spawn anything else or build now
Lucky you :)

>>379197265
There's still the issue that there's a massive armada with nearly ONE MILLION FLEETPOWER floating around the outskirts of my empire

Help me git gud at this game. Everyone expands way faster than me. I never see a reason to have more than one fleet and admiral, just cruise around with a doomstack. It seems like going to war with other empires is a clusterfuck of micro. I cannot understand war demands at all.

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>Hire a researcher from the Curators
>Immediately after I do they're destroyed by a Wraith
>The scientist is possibly the last of their kind
>Suddenly the FE next to me demands I give him to them.
>I can't compete so I do
>mfw

>>379197451
My mistake, the vehement and the aberrant only take like 15% unbidden galactic control to spawn
How big is your empire? Are they close to another empire or close to your capital?

>>379186327
Use hit and run tactics.
Scourge fleets have high wind-down time so use a fast fleet to nuke their shit before they get there and defend it. Purged infested planets become uncolonizable but can be terraformed so the scourge can't do shit to get them back.

As for the giant ass fleets they already have just pray they get worn down by the others or camp a system that's in their way with your main fleet and a fortress for the support aura.

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>yfw a War in Heaven starts

>>379197468
>I cannot understand war demands at all.

It's because the war demand system is retarded. Why should I occupy 1/2 of an Empire's planets just so I can get a high enough warscore from them to cede two? Why should I give back occupied planets at all? Why does the war end so suddenly and randomly without negotiations?

They should just straight-up lift the warscore/wartype from Civ and Civ mods.

>>379197959
They're on the northeastern fringe of the galaxy and their territory holds about less than twenty stars or so, and they're surrounded by pissweak empires along with my border-worlds

>>379198580
Remove your armies from the area near them so you don't accidentally lure them in, let them go for the weak Empires but say fuck you to the economy and start massing ships
Do you have Lances? It will make things far easier for you

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Its shit like this that fucking kills me in this game.

>Full fucking planet
>Still hasn't upgraded colony ship
>Just build a bunch of fucking shit farms

The fuck is wrong with the ai man?

>>379198831
w...wait.
Does my "build level 1 corvettes en masse" strat not work?

>>379198831
>Lances
Those don't work. All my guns that aren't missiles miss like my ship captains are playing Morrowind

>>379192547
you can actually do that if you got at least the droids tech

>>379198831
>lances
>unbidden
Last I remember they have strong shields but piss armor. Torpedoes or disruptors would be better.

>>379199027
I don't know... All I know is that tachyon Lances are God tier weapons
>>379199050
>>379199130
Perhaps I was wrong about Lances
Rev up those corvettes anon, the more the better

>federation members have actually gotten the enigmatic shields and dragonscale armor
>federation fleet is outfitted with them
>get federation control
>trying to get the fed fleet to die enough to spawn debris
>never happens

please tell me the game isn't hardcoded to cause federation fleets to never spawn debris

>>379199130
I don't know about their defense specifics, only that they dodge anything that isn't a Marauder Missile
The first two times I tried to fight the Unbidden after closing the portal, I could only watch in horror as my massed fleet brought their guns to bear against a huge alien armada and missed every fucking shot.

>>379198423
because that's how paradox games have always worked
it simulates real life peace treaties a lot better than automatically keeping what you conquer

>>379199296
Mass torpedo boats seems to be the way to go. I'll do that, and have the rest of the fleet prepare for an inevitable last stand against the Fallen Empire

>Wage war against FE
>actually manage to match it in fleet strength
>both fleets tackle eachother
>massive slaughter on both sides, like a million fleet strength got blown up in total
>my dreadnought and his titan actually got locked into combat with eachother the entire battle
okay, this was pretty god damn awesome

>>379199349
You are correct and its to stop exactly what you are trying to do.

>Defeat science FE
>Get 3 ring worlds
Great!

>>379200171
...son of a bitch
I want my god damn enigmatic deflectors

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>>379159745
>be militarist materialist xenophobe
>researched a lot of tech and been in several wars over territory
>many slave races
>been around for 200 years
>FE awakened about 100 years prior to this
>it's the watchful observers
>eventually after wiping the floor with most other empires they declare war on me
>think "how difficult can this be? other empires are still standing"
>answer is difficult
>very fucking difficult
>they steamroll my external systems with a 700k doomstack
>my total military power was about 250k at the time
>eventually they make it to home system
>bye bye fleet
>bye bye spaceports
>realise i can never beat these guys as all my neighbours hate me and they can rebuild at fuckoff speeds
>have to abandon 40 hour savegame

That's my first longtime Stellaris game down the crapper.

>>379169802
Thanks Doc

Okay, ready to play as a humans again for the first time since I moved into aliens half year ago
I think one of the traits will be spiritualist but not sure about others because usually play as a militarist empire anyway
And what about weapons? Lasers out of question because aren't human enough, so kinectic or missles?

>>379200340
Or you can just give into their demands for a while and get them to fuck off bide your time then fuck them over.

>>379200504
Missiles are legit worthless unless you get a mod that fixes them.

>>379200504
missiles would be the logical one
but missiles suck dick

>>379200794
>>379200857
But I just play as a kinetic devouring swarm, and this type of weapons actually was worthless

>>379184869
I got the game as a present and am still disgusted and apalled that they are selling this out of early access.

>>379201028
to be fair, usually paradox DLC tends to be developed entirely after the game is released and each DLC does come with a large free update

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so, is this game any good?

like if i get it, what am i in for?