Gameplay > Artstyle > Story > Graphics

>>379155154
MGSV TPP wins the open-world meme then

>>379155321
too empty

can't do much

>>379155154
anti-graphic hippies are the worst

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>>379155321
can you do this in MGS?

>>379155321
>open world is good gameplay
botw sucks explicitly because of this
>implying mgsv has a good artstyle
botw may use it to hide the popin and shit textures but it can look nice for not using that much processing
>>379155535
botw sucks dong m8 TP is legitamately better

>>379155535
can you ride mecks in botw?

>>379155516
Graphics are nice but they won't save a shit game

>>379155516
I wish more developers sacrificed graphics for content.

>>379155614
great arguments

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>>379155649
great arguements

>>379155649
thanks

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>when your game has both

>>379155154
>>379155321
No, Fallout 4 actually does.

>>379155535
Anyone have some tips on how to stay on stuff when launching yourself most of the time I try I get blown off.

>>379155797
I think it's a matter of timing.

>>379155797
I've tried it hundreds of times and I can never consistently do it. The best method is to keep jumping and the tree will hit you in the direction it launches and you just glide after.

>>379155730
running simulator

>>379155154
Artstyle = Graphics = Story > Gameplay

>>379155535
Imagine Venom Snake doing this stuff and flying into Pequod.

This is Pequod! Arrivi-BDUM

>>379155973
new /v/ in one post

>>379155973
>Artstyle = Graphics = Story > Gameplay

Hello Sony Movie Entertainment America

>>379155154
Music > all of that shit that you said

>>379155154
Supreme bait my friend. I tip my le hat to you

>>379155154
>average western game
>average jap game
Why can't japs into graphics? It's pathetic

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>>379155154
Gameplay > Story > Artstyle = Graphics

atmosphere/story at the most basic level > gameplay > artstyle/sound design/music > actual story > technical quality of graphics/sound

No matter how good of gameplay something has, unless you can form some kind of investment, it's very hard to actually bother playing. The story can be complete Dogshit, but the atmosphere and premise of the game needs to be something engaging.

Obviously there are exceptions like multiplayer games, racing games and simple arcade games.

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>>379156330
>Artstyle = Graphics

that is almost never the case

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>>379155958
>Running

>>379156353
>No matter how good of gameplay something has, unless you can form some kind of investment, it's very hard to actually bother playing. The story can be complete Dogshit, but the atmosphere and premise of the game needs to be something engaging.

mario 64 is pure gameplay

no plot, no graphics

and it's a 10/10

>>379156432
God why did they ruin the visuals by adding that soft fucking lighting? Holy shit it chafes my loins something fierce.

>>379156495
it's better in cemu, you can turn the bloom off, somewhat

>>379156494
Fuck you I wanted that cake.

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>>379156432
it was meant ranking whise
a good artstyle is at the same level as good graphics

>>379156353
I feel like my love for RE4 comes solely from the Village atmosphere

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>>379156581
>a good artstyle is at the same level as good graphics

untrue

graphics age, artstyle does not

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>>379156494
>no graphics

They might not look like much now but I'm sure at their time 3D graphics were pretty impressive. And, hell, it had some neat art design.

>>379155841
>>379155920
Figure it's something like that I just can't get it down.everytime I see one of these webm they make look easy.

>>379156805
>try 100 times
>get disaster ending
>finally get a perfect 10/10 one
>upload webm
>gg ez no re

see?

>>379156445
same thing

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Friendly reminder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGWtyJAkO0

>>379156494
The only way to enjoy Super Mario 64 is if it was your first 3D game. I got Super Mario 64 in 1998 along with the N64 and Playstation and I found it utterly boring since my first 3D game was OoT which I played to completion before trying anything else we got for Christmas that year. I had more fun with Mega Man Legends than SM64. I only got around to finishing SM64 when I had literally finished everything else.

A game outdated that fast is not a 10/10

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>>379156109
It's as if people enjoyed different things
If the plot and visuals are good they keep me engaged regardless of the gameplay.
Hell i ould play tic tac toe for hours if it had good plot to go with it.

>>379157103
>If the plot and visuals are good they keep me engaged regardless of the gameplay.

then why not watch a movie?
they usually have better plot and acting

>>379155535
This is already better then all the western studios since san andreas.

>>379155516
This.
>Mmm look at me saying that graphics hardly matter if at all, am I a real artistic gamer yet guys?

>>379156687
I can't speak for the world but my circle of friends saw it like this: It was amazing that it was achieved but we all knew it didn't look very "good". Like it was good for what it was and what it was was ground breaking. But that's a shifting scale and even in our early teens we had a sense of that.

>>379157158
I don't like live action movies, they get boring too soon. I like animations, and games are usually animated.
I can't really relate to movie characters. It's much easier when playing a game, especially if you get to make choices in game.

>>379157158
>they usually have better plot and acting
Not really, and they never really had it either. Games are still different enough.

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>>379156669
>graphics age
>that's a bad thing

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>>379157843
>I only watch hollywood garbage

try watching some kino, my friend

>>379157024
How can they get away with this?

>>379157996
Nothing I said was wrong, movies do not have scripts that go beyond videogames, not even your meme shit.

>>379155535
nice useless gimmick
now get back to doing 160 mindnumbingly boring and unimaginative shrines

>>379159618
i-it's only 120

>>379155154
I would personally say Gameplay=Aesthetic>Story>Gwaphics

>>379155535
>Literal delay on object movement
Wow

>>379159972
is this bait?

he used time freezing power

Direction>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gameplay=Aesthetics=Story=Graphics

Nothing in the game matters as much as proper direction from a team that knows what its audience actually wants and how to execute it perfectly. It's all about setting up goals for yourself and doing everything you possibly can with your limitations to achieve said goal to the fullest.
Breath of the Wild is in the title itself, do you feel like you are in the wild, experiencing something refreshing as if you are breathing cold air at the top of some mountain? Yes? It had good direction and the team knew how to balance out gameplay and other elements to achieve it.
What about Silent Hill 2? There are very few works in any medium that achieve that level of suspense and tension just by the use of it's atmosphere and sound alone.
Vidya right now has so many tools and mediums overlapping it, there is a way to make your audience feel something and experience something exactly the way you imagine it if you don't fucking phone it in and have a clear vision of what your product should be.
All of that
>durr gameplay>music>story>graphics
sounds like a bunch of two year olds arguing about shit they don't understand. Sometimes I feel like the only people making these threads are people who have played exclusively one genre or one series in their entire life.

>>379160473
Good direction is understanding that to make a good game gameplay comes before everything else.

>>379160604
But that's wrong you fucking mongoloid.
Silent Hill 2 100% doesn't work without it's aesthetics and music.
It's combat and active mechanics are completely irrelevant, exploration through the world and worldbuilding are what provide the experience.
Why are you even on fucking /v/ if you haven't played half of the games that people discuss?A person can not hold such opinions if he has played even 10% of what are considered to be classics.

>>379155154
Agree, but let's not forget about music
Music>Gameplay>Artstyle>Story>Graphics

>>379161051
I've played through all of them and it's probably an issue with me but horror games don't work. The atmosphere is cool and but since I can't get into horror it's just a boring videogame with condom monsters.

>>379155321
>>379155535
comparing MGS to Zelda is like comparing an apple to an orange...

not to mention you can't play MGS on a goddamn switch

>>379161254
If only the condom monster visited your dad before you were conceived.

>>379155730
>XenoX
>story

>>379161463
I hope you enjoy briskly walking away from guys with triangle heads. Very scary game :~)

>>379155154
Gameplay in botw is way better

>>379156581
Pixelshit can occasionally be good despite literally having no graphics.

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>>379155154
gameplay>story>music>graphics

>>379155535
mercenary tao?

>>379155154
>>379156353
I pretty much agree with these... except after playing videogames for like 18-19 years, i value few qualities in a non-multiplayer-game above all else; originality of gamesystems, overall game direction and in some cases very finely tuned and challenging, yet rewarding difficulty.

For that reason I find it practically impossible to get invested in modern triple-A single player games, ive pretty much given up with them by this point. They all go through similar industrialized low-risk production processes, they all have very similar game systems and core-features and only the setting changes between games. There are no interesting mechanics or features to delve into and combat is more often than not a meaningless experience since the games usually dont challenge you on any level and you simply hop through the same hoops again and again until the credits roll.

Last triple-A singleplayer game i fell for was Prey, another installment of literally nothing new, interesting or challenging; game tells you exactly where to go and what to do and the combat bored me to tears within first few hours.

Last 3 'new' modern single player triple-A's i actually finished were DS3, Doom and XCOM2, and they were all last year. Luckily enough indie scene is better than ever.

Franchise > Gameplay > Artstyle > Story > Graphics

Ftfy.

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>>379157024

literally no one likes horizon and now that i bought a switch because of XX i can finally not shitpost about zelda and say that the whole game feels like a gimmick, TP had more substance to it.
The only reason people weren't defending TP is because they need B B BUT MUH SWITCH AND SUPERIOR GAME trash since this is the worst console on the market right now, and fuck you capcom for making me buy another shitty nintendo product for monhun.

>>379159618
I don't think you know what a gimmick is.

>>379155154
Gameplay = Artstyle = Story = Graphics

Why would you accept anything different?

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>>379158294
What games are you playing that you think are better than ALL films?

MGS2 is one of my favourite video game plots

Fallout 1/2/New Vegas has my favourite 'world building' style video game stories

I'm struggling to think of any more I even consider to be good, let alone better than EVERY film. What's video game story is better told than Laurence of Arabia, Paths of Glory etc?

>>379157054
that's just, like, your opinion man

>>379155154
The Witcher has better gameplay, artstyle, story and graphics than BOTW honestly.

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Gameplay > Artstyle > Music > Graphics > Story
The only good answer. Go read a book storyfaggots, get this filthy scenario out of my fucking game.

>>379165227
>honestly
I doubt BOTW can have worse combat than the Witcher even though I haven't played it. Even after the """fix""" the movement fucking sucks in the game so that even attacking doesn't feel good. From the webms Link seems to move okay

>>379155535
no i don't wanna do pointless shit in my games

>>379155154
I completely agree, gameplay is much more important than graphics.

Too bad BOTW has shit gameplay AND graphics, so it's objectively a shit game

>>379165257
agree 100%
every game I've played that had a story-focus was garbage, game developers have no idea how to write a compelling story to begin with, let alone one that works well with gameplay.

>>379162028
>mercenary tao?
congratulation you can read a filename

or not, you mobile poster

gameplay>story(optional) >music>art style>graphics

This is coming from a graphics whore.

>>379165846
sure, anon, it's just everyone else that is wrong