Who is the Miyazaki of video games?

>>379142086
Hidetaka Miyazaki

Cammack

>PC gaming was a mistake
Literally

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Any time an old person tells you that the old ways are better, just smile and nod and recognize that, statistically speaking, more than 40% of their brain mass is gone, and they are essentially on human autopilot, stripped of all creativity and forward thinking.

All high quality modern animation is 3D. 90% of this frame is 3D. There is a reason for this. It is not only better looking but also immensely cheaper and easier to work with.

Who cares what this old pedo has to say?

>>379142515
Don't you mean Carmack was a mistake?

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>>379142086
Welp. What did he do this time?

>>379142815
>looking better
Animation im the anime industry overall is the worse its ever been though, sure the colors look nice, but a lot of them lack any detail.

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>>379142815
>evangelion movies
>better looking

>>379142815
>castle of cagliostro
The fact this hasnt been topped in the animation department makes your point wrong.

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>>379143261
The new lupin movie had pretty good animation. But nothing like castle of cagliostro.

>>379142815
Agreed, Miyazaki himself had a very misguided rant when someone tried to show him a procedural zombie walk animation.

He could've just said "that's neat but I don't want to use it" but he went on a long pissy rant about how it represented the death of the human spirit or something.

That doesn't make his movies any less great and I appreciate the dedication to traditional methods but he is getting a bit long in the tooth

>>379142815
>and they are essentially on human autopilot
I feel that way now, actually, and I'm 25.

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Using organic materials as opposed to digitized shit will always result in better atmosphere.
Anime was made for cel animation.

Miyazaki is the Japanese Col. Sanders

>>379142815
Or you can respect your elders since they probably have more experience than you and know what changed throughout the industry, you fucking numale faggot

The world is going to lose something great when Miyazaki dies, he tells shit like it is. The man cant be beat.

>>379142815
This. Old farts just get assmad because the world has moved on without them and theyre too stupid to adapt.

>>379142086
Miyazaki did nothing wrong. He's pretty spot on about anime and CG work. Hopefully the standards will improve enough where he's wrong, but that isn't the case for now.

>>379144324
the animation industry was ruined by businessmen who used computers as a crutch. He actually didn't mind computers, but the way they were used by his industry was hardly for improving animation, which was the point he was making.

>>379142086
He's not wrong, over-reliance on CG is one of the many cancers killing anime.

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>>379144324
haha

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>>379142815
>It is not only better looking

Are you blind?

>>379142086
What is it about Japanese people that's so pleasing to listen to or even just read? They just have such a pleasant professional way of expressing themselves.

>>379144324
>This. Old farts just get assmad because the world has moved on without them and theyre too stupid to adapt.

His movies are still the biggest of the year every time they come out in Japan and they are a world wide success every time. I don't really see how the world is passing him by in fact he wants to retire and people keep trying to get him to stay.

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Who was in the wrong here?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

>>379144517
I'm dying.

>>379144682
>he wants to retire and people keep trying to get him to stay
>implying that people are dragging him out of retirement

The old fart himself is coming back by his own decision. This is what, the fourth time hes out of retirement? Give it a rest gramps.

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>>379144853
>The old fart himself is coming back by his own decision.

You kids today with the hair and the clothes and your animation made in flash just don't understand why people want this guy around.

>>379144517
>all that work on the top
>looks weightless and without gravity

looks like shit senpai

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>>379145107
Go back to retirement already gramps.

>>379142815

You didn't even understand what he was saying.

>>379143503
Why don't they bleed?

>>379144042
>>379144049
He's the honorary Tenth Old Man.

>>379142815
>Rebuilds
>better looking than the original
Please consider suicide.

>>379143857
The best part about that presentation is how he brought up his paraplegic friend and tried to act so fucking offended that these animators would even dare show him the demo.

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Deci and Ryan.

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>>379142815
>these are the people who got into Eva circa 07
pretty pathetic desu

>>379142086

There is only one man who fits that description, and his name is Will Wright.

REAL ANSWER: >>379142086
Aesthetic-wise: Fumito Ueda
Attitude-wise: Nobuyuki Inoue

i don't get why people don't understand miyazaki's disgust at the AI demo with the zombie thing flailing around. it's the equivalent of if a company in the west showed a demo of a disabled person in a wheelchair falling down a set of staircases JUST to show the fact that they had a physics system working.

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>>379142815
>better looking
That fucking cheap gradient coloring like gouruad, the constant line width, the things that aren't straight lines are drawn like shit, completely incorrect shadows that just cut across forms without any contour.
You honestly think that looks better than the originals? What a dumb faggot you are I bet you like shit like bloom, chromatic aberration, lens flare and obscuring depth of field.
You stupid, blind, dumb faggot, how does someone as stupid as you come to exist?

>>379145990
How? They're showing off an inhuman zombie AI. The point is not to be human. Why would you equate that to mocking the disabled?

>>379146518
they're showing off an AI. been a while since i've seen the video, but the whole zombie flailing was just an example of what the AI could do. they could have done a demonstration of something else it could do. that's my major point.

>>379146706
They were specifically showing off a zombie AI moving itself along by using its head as a limb because it didn't have the concepts of feeling pain and protecting its head, and how this is not something a human would easily come up with.

>>379146169
triggered

>>379145829
I suppose it would make sense that his only friends are people who can't get away from him.

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>>379147070

I could see Miyamoto becoming the guy that says that he is retiring every fucking game he makes.

He hasn't started doing that, yet, though.

>>379142815
I immediately knew that this isn't from the originals because the originals didn't look like digital shit.

>>379147249
Miyazaki is good though. Miyamoto is responsible for a lot of bad games. Miyazaki is the good kind of conservative and Miyamoto is the ugly kind.

>>379146169

2D animator here, you are a colossal autistic faggot.

>>379142815
You want to know how I know you've never had any adult figures in your life

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>Complained that NASA should be looking for life in the desert instead of space
I think it's time he was left on an ice floe.

Miyamoto.

Both are overrated, washed up relics still clinging to their old ways when the world left them behind long ago

>>379147402
Miyazaki is just continuously making boring and superficial movies that no one has any reason to particularly like or dislike because of how safe they are. I also greatly dislike his extremely simple style of shading and face detail.

>>379144742
These poor computer artists were set up for a slaughter.

>>379144682
>His movies are still the biggest of the year every time they come out in Japan

Your Name wasn't a ghibli movie.

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>>379147510

>>379144517
Bottom left looks far better than the right.

>>379147767
>every time they come out
don't be gay.

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>>379147767
>Miyazaki so shamed and buttblasted that another animated movie took over his top grossing film that he dragged himself out of retirement again

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>>379144517
this desu senpai

>>379148009
Someone show this to Miyazaki.

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>>379148103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfxlgHBaxEU

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>>379148009

>>379148009
>>379148227
Dang they're dropping frames. They should lower some of the graphics settings.

>>379142815
Looks like fucking shit, like flash drawings ahah

Fucking idiot

>>379147510
Autistic? Noticing that shit is lazy and of low quality is autistic?
Look at the bottles on the left and how poorly they drew a circle, can't even do a decent oval, look on the right at the paper and how poorly the corners and lines are when not having the computer do all your work, not only that but the room itself and the larger furniture is done in a different style to the actual drawn things, the least they could have done is created a unified look.
It's clear that low skilled people worked on this, you want me to lie to you? So you feel better than less skilled people taking shortcuts that look uglier and clash, to anyone that knows what they are seeing?
Why can't people just accept that the leve skill and hard work has gone down hill in animation?

>>379143503
holy FUCK.

You gotta tell me where to start with Lupin the 3rd, my guy. Been on my list for a minute and that webm just sold me

>>379142815

man its no wonder you believe people must get stupider as they get older because you have already reached peak stupidity

>>379148417
Watch castle of cagliostro to get a feel and see if you like it my dude. If you do, continue with the Lupin III TV series.

>>379148385
>not only that but the room itself and the larger furniture is done in a different style to the actual drawn things, the least they could have done is created a unified look.
Are you retarded? Animation has always been done this way. Environments have never been in the same style as the actual animated parts and usually not even by the same team. Just look at whenever some rocks get blown up in Dragon Ball, they stand out from the rest of the environment like a sore thumb before they start moving.

>>379148185

Right, so he thinks that the AI movement learning results are "problematic" because he feels "triggered" by the "ableist" insult to disabled people.

So, why do you guys suck his cock while claiming to hate SJW rhetoric?

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>>379148227
>>379148009

:^)

>>379143503
What the hell Lupin material is this from?

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>>379142815
who the fuck invited /a/?
don't you have some poorly made Kemono Friends to watch?

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>>379148742
>Not the spanking scene

>>379148742
Why is she sliding towards the camera?

>>379148809
>implying /a/ prefers the rebuilds

>>379148881
it's a camera zoom but they forgot to move the background.

>>379149196
The guy isn't getting any closer though.

>>379148713
Of course but it's clear that they are trying to imitate the characters in a traditional looking cel style but are doing the environments in a very obvious digitally done gradient coloring, the most boring way to color.

>>379148742
Puck just jittering up and down like that is fucking hilarious, the people who made this show have no fucking dignity, how can they possibly?

>>379145580
Goemon is able to cut vehicles in half

The assumption is his cuts are so clean that it's literally flawless

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>>379148417
This may be helpful

>>379149482
>Of course but it's clear that they are trying to imitate the characters in a traditional looking cel style
What? No they aren't. Tomino did this with G-Reco, Rebuild isn't attempting it at all.

>>379144742
>let's present a zombie thing to miyazaki
>not presenting it as 'wondrous childlike computer intelligence learning to walk'

Autism

sure feels like video games in here

>>379144742

Miyazaki was in the wrong.

>hurr it's weird/disturbing and it doesn't consider pain
>it's a fucking zombie trying to move itself

So, the animation was exactly received as intended.
He's an old cunt who saw "I wouldn't do this so it's bad"
Japan is too fucking obsessed with old people to tell this faggot to shut the fuck up and fuck off from the industry.


I never got why anyone gave a shit about him.
Ghibli movies look nice and all, but they're literally not the best animated media in the world.

Miyazaki is mean, rude, bitter, and grizzled. He will leave the world and won't be missed.

>>379150715
what's the best animated media in the world?

>>379151387
Redline.

>>379150715

It's obvious every time this guy speaks that he has lived a full life which comes with much widsom, so even if he comes to decisions that you disagree with to write him off as "old fart lol" is such a small minded and shortsighted thing to say that basically shows that you have no sense of the world or have never tested yourself in any meaningful way.

>>379148721
He's right though.

He wants to make family-friendly films, not horror movies. That animation seems perfect for a horror themed game, which he himself said was fine if you wanted to use it for that.

In other words, he's tired of edgy faggots who want every fucking story to be grotesque or dark. He only wants lighthearted stories.
I agree with him.

>>379151948

Everything he says is "my way is the correct way"
He can eat dicks

>>379148721
Why do you make generalizations? I have never said I liked Miyazaki or agree with his views, this is a board where we discuss videogames; I literally have no idea why you think everyone here is unanimously a fan of Miyazaki. It's not like he's fucking John Carmack or something. Kill yourself.

>>379148185
This is honestly the most retarded video I think I've ever seen. Miyazaki is right to be skeptical of AI, but his reasoning for doing so is absolutely pants on head retarded. We're not allowed to allow AI zombies to walk in a broken fashion, because some people are disabled? Is this guy fucking for real?

>>379151527
>>379151387

Redline and Akira put every Ghibli movie to shame.

>>379143973

A combination of cel animation with digital effects and CG for certain aspects is best.

>>379151948
Look, I'm not gonna dismiss him as "le archaic old man XDDD", but his reasoning for disliking the experiment is absolutely fucking retarded. Even if it was a young person saying it it would be retarded.

>>379145580
>He's the honorary Tenth Old Man.
Who are the 10?
>Miyazaki /a/
>Alan Moore /co/
>Col. Sanders /ck/
>Scorsese /tv/

>>379152286
Tomino for /m/

>>379152279

The point he's making is that the animation is stiff and unnatural, and does nothing to capture life. He's not just missing that the animation is about a zombie, he's making a point about how animators want to just make impressive or shocking animations without ever really thinking about what can be drawn from life itself.

Think about how cliche and routine "horror" is in pop media. It's easier to make creepy and unsettling visuals when you are making things unnatural on purpose because its certainly a lot easier than trying to capture anything from life. Think for example of all those generic and shitty scary house simulators that hack indie devs make since its easier to make on a budget than something with more detail.

To clarify, its obvious that he is also inserting a subjective interpretation about certain aesthetics or themes into his judgement, but I think what he says about it still carries a lot of weight. Horror is one the most routinely peddled out genres in Hollywood and the airport bookstore for a reason.

>>379143857
Wait you mean Hidetaka Miyazaki?
The dark souls guy?

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>>379142414
first post best post

>>379152286
Miyamoto for us. What a senile fuck he has become.

>>379153379
>he's making a point about how animators want to just make impressive or shocking animations without ever really thinking about what can be drawn from life itself.
And the whole point of that demonstration was that they AI developed was using its head as a limb without any care for the safety of the head, which is not something you would draw from life. Miyazaki completely missed the point.

You mean someone who is old and out of touch, but everyone sucks his dick because he used to make great shit?

Miyamoto.

>>379154373

I think Miyazaki does understand, he just often launches into lessons about values he believes others need to remember. Learning from life is a talk that Miyazaki constantly has. He didn't misunderstand anything, he's saying that the purpose of their demonstration is trite and meaningless, not that they failed at it. It seems like the people criticizing his criticism don't even understand what he's saying.

>>379154987
Miyazaki launching into a random discussion of the values of life in that situation is in itself trite and meaningless. But I suppose the first mistake was made by whoever decided to show technology to Miyazaki expecting anything else.

>>379143503
i'm pretty sure human body can't operate an arm when half of the shoulder muscle is missing, yet even swinging a sword

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>>379142086
>I had an illusion about video games. I thought that better technology would take away the tiresome tedious parts of gameplay that players struggled with and enhance the story.
>I realized that that was a mistake, and that actually players that were playing technologically advanced simple games with an emphasis on stories in them made it more tiresome for game designers later.
>When you take out gameplay only story is left and then players think that that is exactly what games are supposed to deliver.
>So the movie-like methodology enters players' brains, and the game designers who weren't that good with designing gameplay mechanics to start with get lousier and lousier in making games.

>>379155191

He's saying the goal of the technology overall is meaningless, everything he talks about relating to art relates to life in general. He's trying to tell them to ditch the computer project and work on their own art skills.

>>379155709
That is their art skills. Miyazaki is an old fogey who sees no value in technological progress, when those people were working on something that was in itself quite impressive.
For an obviously relevant example, video games would never be where they are today if the world was full of people like him.

>>379148417
just to subsidize his post >>379148647

if you dont end up wanting to watch all the tv series and/or all the OVAs (some of which are really good and others are pure shite (see princess of the breeze for instance)) try a somewhat more recent one - namely the newer, shorter series and the Gravestone of Daisuke Jigen
just wanna admit this is coming from someone who hasnt watched any of the tv series, just most of the older movies and OVAs

>>379148805
from the newest movie (i just found out about it yesterday myself) Blood Spray of Goemon

>>379155709
He values the people's skills and progress more than the end result. The results in his vision I guess are byproducts of the constant strive to perfection and aren't the end of work itself.

>>379143503
dude ultra violence lmao xD

wtf happened to pantsu i cant search on it or anything and i could a few days ago... have they been found out?

>>379156130
dude gross! xD

>>379142086
That woman doesn't even look him in the eyes.

Let's be honest here, Miyazaki has a point but the people on /a/ would never acknowledge that, humans have emotion, they give emotion to what they draw or what they make, not computers.

I remember Miyazaki complaining that computers literally anime themselves these days and that's very concerning, I agree with him.

The sad thing is, Akira is pretty much the closest we can get for comprehensive and full animation maybe.

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>>379155919

You mean the medium that has been elevated countless times by its own Miyazaki?

Miyazaki's criticisms pertain to cartooning, which has a level of manual labor craft that video games doesn't, which is innately tied to programs and computing. Shiggy carries his own hardline mentalities into the medium though, which comes out in his own fogey old man ways, like the fact that he hasn't really fucked around with physics systems or even know how to use the internet. But he has undoubtedly contributed to the medium in irrevocable ways.

Miyazaki is an asshole. Incredibly talented man but an elitist prick through and through. The Stanley Kubrick of anime.

>>379144742

Miyazaki clearly. Because its a goddamn video game they're developing this for. AI based animation is an absolute MUST for the future. Theres only so many animation cycles you can put in a game and they can't predict everything the player is going to do. Which is why we get that awkward transition jerk in every goddamn game ever made.

They were fools showing it to him though, I don't know what they expected.

>>379142086
What a fucking idiot

>>379142086

I'm tempted to say Sid Meier

But he's not a bitter old grump the same way.

>>379156645
Why?

>AI based animation is an absolute MUST for the future.

What

>Theres only so many animation cycles you can put in a game and they can't predict everything the player is going to do.

What

>Which is why we get that awkward transition jerk in every goddamn game ever made.

What

Please study animation.

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>>379152286
Please be joking

>>379156802
Sorry

>>379156802
was for >>379156591

>>379152286
The nine old men were a group of Disney animators.

They're all dead now.

>>379156457
Agreed to some extent but he's wrong with AI animation

AI animation is great and is making huge strides

>>379156863

Because video games are subject to player interaction. You can't possibly prepare for every stupid thing the player can possibly do, the animation of your characters is never going to look natural. If its AI based that circumvents the problem. Your characters aren't snapping to some scripted and reusable animation the player will see over and over, it's working on the fly.

>>379142815
original animation of Eva looks infinitely better than the remakes

>>379156460
>Miyazaki's criticisms pertain to cartooning
His criticisms pertain to animation in all forms. The animation in that video had clear uses in video games (as do many forms of procedural or otherwise computer-manipulated animation, such as tweening), but Miyazaki just dislikes it because he thinks it has no feeling. I have little doubt that he wouldn't like any video game on an animation basis, as they all use the same few animations throughout and only the most important cutscenes are fully animated by hand.

>>379156997
>AI animation is great and is making huge strides
Yeah, where's your source?

>>379148742
>>379148227
>>379148009
Kemono Friends has a new season? Neat

>>379156863

Do you not understand what procedurally generated animation is or what the zombie test was for or something?

>>379142086
Thought this was going to be a Twin Peaks thread.

>>379157051
> but Miyazaki just dislikes it because he thinks it has no feeling

That is a valid criticism, but Miyazaki probably doesn't like video games as a whole as well. Which is fine, its not necessary for an artist to enjoy everything their patrons enjoy.

>>379148742
>Puck starts jittering a few frames before spike boy even moves
Jesus I didn't even notice how terrible this was when I was watching it.

>>379151387
Akira is poorly-drawn but insanely well-animated.
Real answer is Thief and the Cobbler

Why is that other boards are always better at discussing something that another board should be?

>>379142086
>Who is the Miyazaki of video games?

It's Shigesato Itoi.
>Sentimental stories about an idealised childhood
>Themes of nature versus technology
>Repeated use of pig motifs
>Communist sympathies
>Wishes his fans would turn of the TV and go play outside with their friends instead

>>379157389
So well animated that Disney stole most of the shit

>>379157443

I'm curious, can you name some of his games? Never heard of him.

>>379157428
Less opinionated and jaded.

>>379157508
The Mother/Earthbound trilogy.
And also Shigesato Itoi's No. 1 Bass Fishing.

>>379143503
What is this called exactly? I am not big into anime but this looks cool and I would like to check it out.

>>379157389
What's so poorly-drawn about Akira? The character designs are simple but that doesn't mean it's of poor quality.

>>379157213
An artist shouldn't be so narrow-minded.

>>379157443
Has any of his non Mother related stuff been translated?

>>379157428
The board dedicated to a subject will have everyone capable of offering an opinion on the subject, but varying degrees of knowledge. On a board not dedicated to the subject, the only people offering opinions on the subject will be those passionate about the subject.

>>379157793
Don't bother, Fujiko's spin-off is the worst part of the Lupin franchise.

>>379155337
not that it makes the scene any less fucking ridiculous but it looks like he's swinging the sword with his wrist.

>>379157793
Lupin the 3rd: Blood spray of Ishikawa Goemon

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>it's a senile old man episode

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>>379158206
it must be suffering having teef that big

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>>379157838
I guess I should have clarified my point. The design's simplicity often makes characters look fat-faced, and looks goofy at some points. This shot looks like big head mode was enabled. The backgrounds are fantastic, as are the mechanical and monstrous designs, but the human characters kinda stand out.

>>379157909
Not much.

This blog has some of his flash fiction from the book he wrote with Murakami.
http://letsmeetinadream.blogspot.com.au/
And there's some interviews with him that I've seen translated online, mostly about Mother.

It's a shame, he's apparently written multiple novels. I'd love to read them.

>>379158370
All of Ghibli's movies have this same problem. The humans are all either super simplified with zero face detail whatsoever, or massively exaggerated old women.

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>>379158131
>Bitches about otaku then hangs out with Anno

>>379143503
I miss it when they did not try and make everything darker and edgier.

Miyazaki is the personification of issues with most artist.

>Arrogant
>Close minded
>Self absorbed
>Lacks any self awareness
>Almost zero human decency

As someone who has to deal with artist on a regular basis, they are the worst pieces of shit going.

>>379142815
>all the butthurt from this post


https://youtu.be/tzP4L90CCWw

I remember when Miyazaki saw some new tech from young hopefuls and he just completely shitted on them and went on a rant about his disabled friend.

At that point I realized that he's an asshole with nothing important to say. Being good at drawing pictures says nothing for intelligence or wisdom.

>>379142414
>Hidetaka Miyazaki
No anon

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>>379157575

Sounds more like the Miyazaki of Reddit

>>379148742
>>379148227
>>379148009
How the fuck could they do this to my favorite manga? They can't keep getting away with this.

>>379158939
if Berserk is your favorite manga you might as well eat shit and garbage while posting on reddit, you'd enjoy it

>>379159010
Thanks for the recommendations, reddit promoter! I'll definitely check out your site.

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>>379158206
>late 80's had real actors interacting with Cartoon characters seamlessly
>30 years later and now Cartoon characters can't even react with CG properly
CG was a mistake, post the Kemono Friends webm, you know the one.

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>>379143503
>Katana cutting a flying axe
Into the trash it goes

>>379142815
Miyazaki's a cranky old fuck but his point isn't simply nostalgia for the old ways I think, he just dresses it up in an old rambly man way. He believes that this sort of medium and ones similar to it should be created by people who experience life and have experiences to pull from, so the thought of machines doing more and more of this sorta thing just seems horrific to him.

>>379158810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

>>379142086
God fucking damnit that woman costantly writing and not even looking at him drives me so fucking mad.

>>379159278
It's almost like it's her fucking job.

>>379159278
She is a translator you dingus

>>379152203
>>379157389
Why do you jump to Akira when Steamboy by the same director had even better animation?

>>379159215
>not knowing about Goemon's sword
what a fucking pleb

>>379158652

>As someone who has to deal with artist on a regular basis, they are the worst pieces of shit going.

Don't fucking remind me. I am in the process of finding an artist to make some assets for my game I am making and so far every artist I have talked to except for one has been an obnoxious, self absorbed prick.

Miyamoto easily.

Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Junior
Donkey Kong 3
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

>>379148009
That's not real.

I refuse to believe that's real.

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>>379159363
It was the first movie to come to mind that fit the description.

>>379158607
This. Although most Lupin movies have had a tendency towards edginess.

I just miss fun, sometimes surrealistic Lupin. Everything seems so grounded in reality now.

>>379159010
what's your favorite manga

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>>379148009
...wtf is this shit

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>>379160104
I've watched most of the movies and up to the third season and can't remember seeing anything close to that gory at all.
I really need to catch up with the newer stuff.

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>>379160168
GUNNM

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>>379160170
some damn fine anime, according to Kotaku

>>379158370
bad news bruv
akira takes place in japan and the characters are japanese and since the source material tried to portray a realistic depiction of what japanese people look like, the character designs were made the way your pic shows
it's still a landmark animated movie
also thief and the cobbler is excellent animation in it's own right though the plot is not compelling
this is coming from someone who has only seen the card shuffling clip - the rest of the movie is on my to do list

>>379159408
it doesn't matter if he knows about Goemons sword seeing as he no longer has arms with which to swing it anon.

seriously though why try to make Lupin edgy and grimdark, it's number one best quality was that it was a goofy lighthearted show you could watch to get away from all this shit. I guess its good the Lupin stories are mostly self contained or else they would have to write Goemon out of the series completely. Those wounds are absolutely unrecoverable.

>>379160307
You could day they were taking a franchise back to its roots.

>>379159986
For Tetsuo i think it's not an issue.
I mean, he's a fucking uber powerful psion, you gotta have a big brain and so head for that.
Only ok for him though, no excuse for the others.

>>379143503
STR vs DEX

>>379160468
I'm pretty sure the film is a spin-off and isn't canon

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>>379143071

>>379142086
Shigeru Miyamoto

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>>379160463
>realistic depiction

>>379160608
>>>/wsg/1721202

STRfags BTFO

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>>379160828
>二歳の女の子

>>379160828
Man I'm glad that he did not get any daughters...I would feel sorry for them.

>>379160586
doesn't his head get slightly bigger over the course of the movie because hes mutating or something? I thought that was intentional, or at least I assumed it was.

>watch royal space force
>don't care for the visuals until it gets to the last part of the film
>realise that animation of any kind will not use that detail ever again

Hand drawn stuff is something else if you ask me.

>>379160939
so is your image shopped or real?
because if it is then youre whole post has no real bearing on the conversation

>>379160779
I sure hope so. I haven't seen anything made in the last few years and that webm makes me think my laziness was some kind of cosmic intervention to keep me away from it.

>>379160828
1) otaku is a way of life not a medical or psychological condition
2) those images you chose to cherry pick happen(ed) in real life OVER THERE and BACK THEN and are the result of CULTURAL DIFFERENCES
showering/bathing with your dad isnt really abnormal OVER THERE (seems it's referenced every once in a while by characters from various animes, which is why i say it)

>>379149607

you know the guys who make this probably have no free time and work 20 hour days 7 days a week, have intense deadlines that prevent them from putting more than the bare minimum effort required to finish a scene before having to move onto the next, and are seconds away from killing themselves or dropping dead from exhaustion at any moment but don't because it would bring shame to their entire family.

>>379142815
Candy Crush is better than OoT XDDD
Stupid old people, am I rite?

>>379142815
Looks like shit desu senpai. Next you'll say berserk looks good.

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How come modern anime doesnt have shading?

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>>379161169
Let me make it easier for (you).

>>379158532
Anno hates otaku though, they sent him death threats.

>>379161694
He'd hate them whether or not they did.

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>>379161694
>Anno and Miyazaki both hate otaku yet both of them have sexualized underage girls in their works

REALLY gets the juices flowing

>>379160828
He's the original moefag. He admitted to falling in love with the female protagonist of an anime movie when he was 17. The movie was something like The Legend of the White Snake.
He's ashamed of it now but he basically admits that it's the reason why all his works include little girls as protagonists.

>>379161694
Anno is too busy crying about his "depression" every other week to have the time to hate otakus.

>>379161887
Do you know what an otaku is?

@379161589
see @379161169

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Pretty much nothing has been good since the early 90s.

>>379161887

Anno hates otaku because he used to be one
he's a self loathing individual which is also what NGE is coincidentally about

>>379162140
is the joke that eggman is on the side ?

>>379161891
The difference is miyazaki is a real moefag, he simply idealizes and fawns over the innocence of young girls. Meanwhile otaku tend to sexualize young girls which is depraved and not the same thing.

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>>379142815
holy fuck 10/10 I hate this post

>>379162242
no, that's dr robotnik

>>379142086
probably Jonathon Blow

but that would require him to have made a good game

>>379162242
Congratulations, anon, you don't have autism.

>>379161582
Advances in digital coloring made shading obsolete.

>>379162293
Correct, I fucking winced when he got made at soulja boy playing Braid and not "understanding" it. Its exposure you fucking nimrod.

>>379144618
good translation most likely

>>379162242
Who's eggman? All I can see is dr. Robatnik on the side.

>>379162310
More like regressive amirite

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>>379162140

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Was he in the wrong?

>>379160828
>a moefag was triggered enough to make this

>>379162247
It's not like purityfags aren't a thing

>>379162560
Yes, lolicons have existed since the birth of anime. Hell, before the term lolicon became popular, it was called 'Clarisse Syndrome' after Clarisse from Castle of Cagliostro.

>>379162560
no he's perfectly right and Japan will only rise again if all the perverted elements are purged.

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>>379161957
>whuds rong canada

>>379162669
Isn't Clarisse 16 or so?

>>379142815

Wow that looks like shit.

>>379162560
He's a purityfag. I don't disagree with him though. Not sure what the mainstream media is like in Japan, but in the west it's way more degenerate than some nerds having fantasies.

>>379142815
Looks like bland shit

>>379142815
look at that grading on the floor. look at those glasses
fucking disgusting man

>>379161694
>Anno hates otaku though, they sent him death threats.

Still wonder why people are obsessed with him, he never made a good anime.

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>hand drawn "animation"

>>379153379
>Horror is one the most routinely peddled out genres in Hollywood and the airport bookstore for a reason.
And boring talkies about life and experiences are the most routinely peddled out genres in art movies.

I agree with Miyazaki on the lolicon shit but aside from that he's a "BACK IN MY DAY" kinda dude to a comical degree.
He's likened touchscreens to masturbation, calls genetic algorithms "an insult to life" and cause he couldn't fucking control a 3D focused team abolished the entire thing and made up some halfassed reason for why it corrupts the art or whatever.
He's the perfect example of Japanese inflexibility.

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>>379142086

Kamitani.

I wish the Japanese were able to recognize when someone is old enough for their brains to turn into mashed potatoes. I'm not saying "lol old people are shit xD" but when the CEO of your games company spends his first several hours of your flagship new video game climbing to the top of trees, standing there for several minutes, and climbing back down again (I repeat, for several hours) then you have to understand he's probably a cabbage up there.

>>379163360
What are you talking about?

>>379163447
miyamoto

>>379150206
>Mine Fujiko To Iu Onna was 5 years ago
Where did the time go

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heh

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hah

>>379163636
3D is so shit.
Knights of sidonia was good tho i must admit, too bad about being blueballed forever.

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IT's LITERALLY A STILL

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>>379163074
I know right.

>>379150206
Am I having a stroke? Why is the evolution backwards?

>>379163901
I like how the bottom spikes get cut in half and the tips just stay attached to the bottom floating in air.

>>379164060
>>379163901
holy shit did they do the effect in paint?

>>379142815
This. People have been having the exact same conversation forever.

Someone post the opinion piece from 1880 or whenever lamenting that communication via telegraph was making the next generation stupid and lazy because they didn't have to hand-write letters.

If you're the kind of person who takes that "Good Ol Days" shit seriously, follow it to the logical extreme and recognize that the Best Old Days were the ones before cave paintings made young people lazy and stupid because they didn't have to commuicate with grunts and pantomime.

>>379142414
/thread

>>379142086
miyamoto is the senile old fool of video games

>>379160468
>seriously though why try to make Lupin edgy and grimdark
That movie is in the same setting as the Fujiko spinoff, which was a darker and edgier reboot of the franchise. The Fujiko spinoff was absolute garbage that everyone hated and it sold poorly though, so I'm not sure why they thought it a good idea to revive it with two movies.

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>>379163901
>>379164046
>The modern adaptation of one of the most recognizable franchises went with full 3D and ended up with this
>Some noname mecha show scraped together enough budget after a 13 year hiatus to do THIS
3D can look good, so it hurts me even more to see this garbage

>>379159217
That's why he's stupid though. The machine is just a tool. It's like having that same opinion about pens and pencils.

>>379161582
I really need to get around to the original BGC.

>>379163074
What the hell is this? It wasn't the original Macross.

>>379164450
that's gargantia right? Been wanting to watch that.

>>379163901
>>379164046
This is painful to look at

>>379163717
It just depends on the company. Sidonia worked because it was well animated and the aesthetic was a good fit for Nihei's style. Majestic Prince has the best CGI mecha I've ever seen, and some incredible fights as a result of it. The new Berserk is just absolute trash with zero budget or care for a quality product.

>>379165091
No, it's the new Fafner. Haven't watched it because the original Fafner was utterly terrible.

>>379165312
ah. Characters look similar. Well shit i'll give that a go too then. thanks anon.

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>>379165348
Were you even listening to me?

>>379165390
Couldn't be more shit than the garbage that's been coming out this year so far. Everything's at least worth a shot.

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>>379165415
ID-0 so far has been significantly better than Fafner was. Though that's not saying much.
Go watch Majestic Prince or something instead, people usually skip that because of the Hiraiface when it's totally worth watching.

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>>379162669
>Clarisse Syndrome

Is there a source for this? It seems made up.

>>379142815
>All high quality modern animation is 3D

For cost reasons, not artistic ones.

>>379152106
>you guys
>anon must have been addressing ME PERSONALLY

Want to know how I know you're mentally ill?

>>379165312
>>379165348
The first Fafner was a pretty standard post Evangelion coming of age show, but the movie, OVA and Exodus are amazing
The second series especially shines with the 3D done by studio orange, who make the rest of Japanese CG look like shit

>>379165625
Give me a sec, I'll have to look at my sources.
I wrote about this shit for my Master Degree's final thesis so I know what I'm talking about.

>>379142086
Miyamoto.
>once a prodigy of his craft
>now hates everything about its modern forms

>>379164179
>Someone post the opinion piece from 1880 or whenever lamenting that communication via telegraph was making the next generation stupid and lazy because they didn't have to hand-write letters.

They were probably right. Didn't they release a study just now that proved that using Facebook literally makes people stupid? I wouldn't be surprised at all if that wasn't the case for every form of communication more "advanced" than face-to-face speech.

>>379165709
>but the movie, OVA and Exodus are amazing
After how bad the original was I don't think I can believe you. They set up the aliens as hugely intimidating at the start and then they just turned into a fucking joke as the show went on, along with everything else.

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>>379165717

Alright well don't keep me waiting, anon.

>>379165717
>TFW have a 500 word essay about Clarisse Syndrome due by the end of this thread and still need to find sources

>>379165810
http://www.imageandnarrative.be/index.php/imagenarrative/article/viewFile/127/98
Here. Page 15 of the pdf

>>379144517
That was a damn good movie. Plot got really weird at the end, though. Kind of came out of nowhere.

>>379165929
'Sup Patrick?

>>379165997
I wish. This guy wrote a fuckton of stuff on anime, moe, maids, lolicon, otaku, etc so I used a lot of his stuff in my thesis.

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>>379165797
That becomes a plot point later on. The Festum get left behind in terms of weaponry evolution, but assimilating the lab at the end of the first series gives them more and more human knowledge, including division of labor and large scale siege tactics
They develop super-festum leaders and it honestly feels like humanity is doomed

>>379158607
it's a more serious reboot closer to original manga, part IV from 2015 is still lighthearted

>>379162560
watched that documentary, pretty sure it's a fake screencap

>>379160828

>retarded Americans think shit like fathers bathing with their young children naked is even remotely weird

autism

>>379166079
That does sound good, and while I've forgotten much of the series by now, I think the biggest problem I had with the Festum was in the nature of their attacks and their interactions. They create that void that just straight up eliminates anything within it, and early on they always have perfect accuracy, able to easily target fighter jets and wipe them out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, and yet whenever Kazuki fights them they just always miss. There's no reason given for this, they just always miss him, and that's the only reason he survives.
By interactions I mean how the Festum keep asking "Are you there?", and in the early episodes it's strongly implied that if someone responds to them that this would cause an event of cataclysmic proportions, and it does make the Festum quite terrifying in the first half of the series. Then in the second half Kazuki gets his mecha upgrade and every time the Festum ask "Are you there?" he responds with "I am here!" and... Nothing happens. It was a build up that never amounted to anything.

I don't know what happened with it but it had an incredible set up that just ended up becoming a huge mess.

>>379160828
>thinks falling in love implies wanting to fuck a cartoon

maybe follow his advice and go outside and talk to actual people?

>>379166578
>Fall in love with someone
>Don't want to fuck them

Most people are not asexual.

>>379166514
Oh yeah, the first series was definitely mediocre. I might be totally biased when I rank them, but Fafner is a 6/10 and Exodus is a 9/10.
For the specifics you address in your post: If I remember right the first fight in Exodus is fighter jets vs regular festum (jets win), and the festum evolve to a point where Fafner mind shielding doesn't actually stop them from assimilating your brain. Lots of gory deaths for generic Euro soliders who have last-generation hardware.
Kazuki goes blind because his upgraded mech is ridiculously powerful and he gets benched for the first half of the second series

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>>379142086
>>379143973
>>379144517
>>379144742
>>379142815
The real question is, why are hardcore anime fans so into moe anime? You would think they have really good taste, but it's the complete opposite most of the time

>>379166896
this image is outdated, /a/ eats up Dragon Ball Pooper, Kemono Friends, and Naruto GT now

>>379166896
What if they do have good taste and you don't?

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>>379166776
Alright, I guess it does sound a lot better. Though I'd need to watch the original again first, and I don't know if I have the patience for that. I was about to start Tekkaman Blade.

>>379166707
do you want to fuck your family as well or do you just not love them?

>>379166896
Literally everything in the /v/ section is something that /a/ likes, and /a/ doesn't like KlK, Chaika, OreImo, Keijo, or Hamtaro.

>>379143503
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31335

that movie was basically a slasher flick which explains the violence

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>>379166896
>/v/'s list doesn't comprise entirely of shonen

Fuck off with this shitty and inaccurate bait. All I ever see discussed here is One Piece, Jojo, DBZ, Naruto and the rest the series that have games. Worst taste by far.

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>>379142086
He's absolutely fucking right. We need more people like him, with an absolute hard on for top quality and artistic/business integrity.

>>379167164
But we're talking about Fafner right now.

>>379167046
If you ever have an itch for green crystal despair bots again, you know where to find 'em

>>379167140
>not liking Hamtaro
Fuck /a/

>>379167295
>Hamtaro
That guy is talking about Umaru. don't tell me you like Umaru pls.

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>>379166896

This is /a/ most favorite anime currently.

>OMG KAWAII UGGGUUUU GIRLS
>IT HAS MAGIC SO IT'S DIFFERENT
>DIANA IS MY WAIFUUU >.<
More SoL moeshit you should add to their section.

>>379165737
Facebook isn't making people stupid, the internet itself is. People can now form whatever beliefs they like, and support those beliefs by using the internet to collect fabricated "facts" and surround themselves with other stupid people who agree with them. 20 years ago, everyone vaccinated their kids. Now, so many people avoid doing so thanks to online communities that circulate falsified information, that it's actually causing a resurgence of diseases that were nearly eradicated.

These days, you can even find people who legitimately, honestly believe that the world is flat, thanks to the internet. They don't have to confront real facts, knowledge or counterarguments, they can just stay in their little online bubble and continue poisoning the world with misinformation.

>>379166896
K-on is legitimately godlike though

>>379167508
But little witch academia is great you faggot.

>>379161098
No but he does have granddaughters.

>>379142086
You can't make videogames without computers, clownboat.

>>379167508
>More SoL moeshit you should add to their section.
Dude are you even aware of how much moe there is? The list of those would fill up 20 of those charts.

>>379167508
Their favorite anime is Eromanga Sensei tho

At this point I'm convinced Miyazaki lives on the butthurt of western otaku. Every time somebody calls him a senile idiot he gains another year of life expectancy.

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>>379167984
>the favorite is some seasonal shit that will be forgotten within a few weeks
Nah, it's obviously Evangelion. Constant threads and waifuwars for more than 10 years. Anything else is just bullshit lies.

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>>379166896

>>379167068
I know you burgers have a restricted vocabulary, but most cultures differentiate love towards family/friends and those you want to fuck.
In this case he used the latter.
latin has amor, caritas and dilectio, most european languages have the dicotomy amore/affetto (italian), amour/affection (french) etc.; japanese does as well

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>>379168180

>>379168604
Habane Renmei is overrated trash and Angel's Egg sucks too, but the rest of the top set is great.

>>379167068
>do you want to fuck your family as well or do you just not love them?

You dont say "suki" to family members, even less daisuki or aishiteru.
as
>>379168785
said, only bongs and burgers do this shit, europeans either have different words

eg italian
ti amo (lover)
ti voglio bene (friends/family)

or different phrase structure
eg german
ich liebe dich (lover)
ich habe dich lieb (family)

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>>379168604
I liked all the anime on top and bottom.
Am I just easy to please?

>>379142414
who?

>>379169007
>ergo proxy
>nge
>great

kek

>>379169007
>>379170121
it's a bit image you fucking niggers

>>379169716
>eg german
>ich liebe dich (lover)
>ich habe dich lieb (family)

Not entirely correct. The second one is just a weaker, more childish form of the first. Family members that want to express a strong feeling of love very much use the first phrase, although it's very rare and not tossed out whenever.

>>379142086

I swear some of this movies in the last 15 years had some 3D effects, but they didn't look like CGI

>>379142414
FPBP

How would you rank the Miyazaki movies?

For me it's

Nausicaa > Kiki > Mononoke > Porco > Totoro > Spirited Away > The Wind Rises > Ponyo > Cagliostro > Laputa > Howl's

>be me
>browse /v/
>/a/ thread with better quality discussion of /a/ stuff than ever seen in /a/
>mfw /v/ does /a/ discussions better than /a/
>mfw /v/ has a serious discussion for the first in a long time and it isn't about vidya
>mfw I have no face

Wtf /v/

>>379160828
I don't see what's wrong with that. There's nothing sexual about his art or what he said.

>>379170515
Mononoke > Howl's > Spirited Away > Kiki

>>379170515

you're missing some, or were the last few not made by him.

Weakest is Whisper of the Heart too, just because it's a slice of life movie.

>>379168604
No.