FFXV

>>379141995
absolutely nothing. best fishing game in years.

ubisoft-style open world games start printing mad cash and every dev, including japanese ones, are hopping on the bandwagon

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>>379141995

What didn't go wrong?
>Wanking art assets around for years with no real vision or direction for the game
>Falling for the open world meme
>Discarding most interesting visual things that people came to like over the years of fake trailers
>A fucking boy band in a car
>Uninteresting, underutilized side characters
>Retarded summon system
>Cup noodles
>STRONK FEMYLE CHARACTOR
>Shimomura's weakest soundtrack yet
>Unsatisfying summons
>Cut up plot that rivals FF8 and FF10 in how bizzare and unrelatable it is
>Kingsglaive
>THEY ARE STILL MAKING IT JESUS FUCK

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Not enough.

>>379142472
Securities fraud.

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>>379141995
Is there a worse JRPG fight than XV's Leviathan?

Are there any waifus in this game?

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>>379142683
Yes but they don't get more than 5 minutes of screen time.

>>379142683
Where have you been?

>>379142790
>that 4th girl with that black hair

good god ew. she was perfect in the promotional artwork.

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>>379142790
and we have been cucked out of getting nude models forever

>>379142336
>female party member
If only

>>379142790
Yeah, I knew the mechanic chick didn't get much, would've expected they would made up for it though. What a shame.
I guess it's just a sausage party then?
>>379142849
Had a heavy semester, I didn't even realize FF came out until recently

>>379142909
DISGUSTING

>>379142951
Why even bother with college, you're just going end up getting a job where your degree doesn't even matter.

>>379142951
>I guess it's just a sausage party then?
Essentially, although there is a chapter where Aranea joins your party.
Other than that it's just the four guys in a gas station simulator open world.

>>379142849
Been searching all along

>>379143059
>end up getting a job where your degree doesn't even matter.
Kek in Pharmacy? I think not, I'll be set.
People can't live w/o their drugs and medigince

Anyone else hoping for FFXV-2 with Demon Hunter Iris set in the World of Ruin

they released the game unfinished.

>>379143272
This could've been the one

>>379142909
>Saw someone on some other website used a full version of a her nude model as a thumbnail for their shitty article
>It's actually the legit nude model
>He censored it with black bars because of ads
>Didn't release an uncensored photo of it

REEEEE

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>>379143885
Yeah, it's annoying. At least we have our imagination.

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>>379144565
I wish someone would rip the game's files and post them publicly. I want to see how many Versus assets are left in.

Also, hopefully more nude models for other female characters like Gentiana and Vanille's from FFXIII.

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>>379144776
Yes please.

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what did you vote for?

>>379146601
I tried voting for a good game but it seemed like it wasn't an option. Looks like it's impossible for the team to do

>>379146601
World of Ruin. Aside from the Line of Lucis, Noctis' Disappearance (which SHOULD have fucking been covered in each DLC package as well), Cor's activities and Ardyn's past, none of them are really needed or interesting.

>Luna sucked and should honestly just be forgotten
>Playable character's are probably pointless now because people have probably finished the game or platinumed by now and don't care
>Hard mode. improved Armiger abilities and stat-changing magic are pointless now because of the point above and they should have been in the game in the first place

FFXV isn't terrible but holy fuck, it's unfinished.

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>>379146723
Underrated.

>>379142790

That Dragoon lady is wasted on this game.
I'd honestly have rather played a game with her as a protagonist. Maybe she could have redeemed female Final Fantasy protagonists after the cancer that was Lightning.

>>379146601
All of this stuff should've been in the game to begin with

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>>379147281
Lightning is top 3 female FF characters though, although it is a shame that almost every side character in XV gets shafted hard.

>>379147281
>Voiced by Miyuki Sawishiro in the Japanese version
>"Ara, ara~"
>The hot type of older woman
>Actually strong
It's like they knew one of my fetishes.

>>379147442

Lightning was also greatly overexposed and over-saturated in the Final Fantasy series, and constantly shoved down our throats for like, six straight years.

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Did someone say Lightning?

>>379147442
I think that's mainly Japan and honestly, Lighting is appealing design wise. Although, I'd say Tifa, Arenea, Rikku, Yuffie and some of the Type-0 girls look visually more better than her.

>>379146601
if the game had all of these it would actually be a good final fantasy game for once

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>>379147569
Yeah that's because she's insanely popular in Japan.

>>379147569
>>379147609
I don't know why, but Lighting gives me that impression that the OC donut steel girl from the RE live-action movies gives me.

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>>379147681
I prefer Serah to Lightning myself.

>>379147761
Agreed. She's much cuter.

>>379147702
Japan apparently LOVES cliche characters and the more they have, the more they like them. I'll never understand that.

>>379147761
she's too high-maintenance

way too much baggage

>The Top 5 female FF characters in Japan are:

>5. Vanille
>4. Serah
>3. Tifa
>2. Yuna
>1. Lightning

Thoughts?

>>379147932
Only Tifa and Lightning deserve to be on that list

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>>379147997
You mean Tifa and Serah.

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>>379147932
Needs more summons/primal girls

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>>379147932
>Serah and Vanile that high up
nice try

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>>379147932
Lightning should be 1-5 inclusive

>>379147932

I think Tifa is going to shoot to the top of that list once the FF7 remake comes out and she becomes the highest quality waifu model in the series.
I also think Yuffie and Aerith are going to place on the list and bump off Vanille and Serah for the same reasons.

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>>379148021
Nice try anon. Now please get your shit taste away from me

>>379141995
Isn't this selling like hotcakes?

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>>379147932
Yuna is more popular than Ms.Skeleton but you are right about Tifa

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>>379148261
Why don't you like Serah?

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>>379148275
Haven't seen the popular = good meme in a while. Top kek

>>379148275
Not in Japan, only NA

They removed insomnia, it was supposed to be this games Midgar, without it it feels like half a game

>>379148356
Why didn't Japan fall for the gas station simulator meme but NA did?

>>379148346

Because take away the pretty face and the nice body...What does she have left?
She's barely a character.

>>379147681
I can think of at least 10 FF girls with more appealing character design.

Japan is fucking weird when it comes to waifu.

>>379148426
Because Japan doesn't like FF anymore

>The Top 5 male FF characters in Japan are:

>5. Squall
>4. Tidus
>3. Zidane
>2. Cloud
>1. Zack

>>379148346
Shes way to sweet for me. Also she whines alot. Shes pretty dumb too. Shes just kinda annoying IMO.

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>>379148498
Why do people like Squall again?

>>379148549
gunblade and leather

>>379148440
Yeah, a lot of the older FF girls look more interesting in Dissidia.

>>379148426

Because the game is gorgeous to look at (The only thing it has going for it).
>"oooh, look at the shiny graphics!"
Is a bigger selling point for American gamers than it is Japanese ones.

The second thing is the protagonists.
Japanese gamers want waifus. You can have a male PC. You can even have male party members.
But if you don't have at least one main waifu (Either as the protagonist or main heroine) and two sub waifus in the party at all times, Japanese gamers want nothing to do with it.

In America, however, people tend to give less of a shit, save for the bottom of the barrel insecure nutjobs who think that even touching a game where you control a female character for any amount of time makes you a tranny.

>>379148498
>Zack #1
There wasn't any recent poll you nigger. Stop making shit up

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>>379148498
Kek why the fuck is Tidus on this list?

>>379148629
This was the most recent poll I could find, anon. For some reason, they don't old polls for male characters anymore.

>>379143159
>Demon Hunter Iris
>Mech-minion making Cindy
>Grizzled apocalypse Aranea
>more post-ring missions
>more land toexplore
>more enemy variety
>more summons
>more Cindy in general

I want itall, anon.

>>379144776
>not Nude models for Jhil Nabaat, for the deserved revenge porn.
I mean I guess....

>>379148616
I was about to interject with "What about Kingdom Hearts?", then I remembered Japan REALLY loves Aqua for some reason.

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>tfw you're waif is the most underrated in the series

>>379148356
People still thought it was the same thing as Versus XIII

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>>379146601
Lunabae activities obviously.

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>>379148684
Link or I call bullshit, there is no way that Zack is over a FF main char. in that list

>>379148851
Meant for>>379148426

>>379148868
Does that really surprise you? I thought Zack was regarded as that popular in a lot of places. He was a main character in his own game.

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2012/12/japan-ranks-their-favorite-male-characters-from-the-final-fantasy-series/

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>>379147932
>2. Yuna
I know /v/ has a hateboner for her, but I have a soft spot for the traditional waifu.

>>379148607
It doesn't need to be party member, even an npc like Evil Quistis has more interesting design.

>>379143159
I'm still waiting for Versus XIII.

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>People unironically love Lightning, Serah or Vanille

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The gameplay and the world were really impressive in XV and I'm a person who expected to hate everything about the game. I've been a full blown SE hater since FFX. There were things about this I really liked.

The story was a complete dud though and I give Square credit it seems like they really tried for once in a long time to try and make good characters and at the start of the game I almost felt like the guys were a good fit together and had real chemistry despite their ugly default clothing, but it just wasn't good enough to sustain how long this game can be and make you give a shit. The plain as fuck sub nes FF tier story just doesn't fit the modern expansive world design they were going for.

This game and the Niers make me cautiously optimistic about this company and I thought there was no hope left to be had for this shit.

>>379148983
>He was a main character in his own game.
Isn't Crisis Core seen as a disaster solely by virtue of introducing Genesis among other retcons?

>>379148789

Even still, Kingdom Hearts is kind of an exception to the rule because of one word. Disney.

The Japanese fucking love Disney. So much so that they based their entire animation industry off of them.

>>379148997
He obviously made the poll up you mong, Yuna is normaly number one

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>>379149028
>E3

>>379147442
Fran has that covered, homeboi.
I just want full graphics overhaul of Fran from 12.

Even though Prompto wasn't a full "side character" I feel he gets a large share of that shitstorm.

You'd think the Niffs would have given him somemore power though. Would have been neat for him to be able to load actual elemental-bullets for diverse attacks.

>>379147887
No wonder Snow Villiers was the most durable of the entire series.

>>379148498
>No ardyn in that list, Snowbro, or Prompto.
>Cloud made the list

Shit taste, I have tosay.

>>379148827
>she's a character in FF XVI
>Tabata is the director
>she doesn't get more than 10 minutes of screen time and dies

Be careful what you wish for

>>379142392
>Cut up plot that rivals FF8 and FF10 in how bizzare and unrelatable it is

I don't even think there's a comparison here.

FF10's is played completely straight. You may hate the characters, but the plot is pretty standard.

FF8 is wonky but even then nothing compared to the shattered mess that in FFXV

>>379149205
It will never happen
Let it go

>>379149103
Still waiting for my ff7 sequel that everyone fucking forgot about after the secrent end credit scene of dirge of cerberus

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Did Square Enix and Tabata forget about Type-Next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1dCNt0Pc0

>An FF game set in a seemingly Samurai world
>Type-0 spoilers Probably feature Ace and the rest of the cast "reborn" like a Phoenix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1dCNt0Pc0

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>>379149243
>>No ardyn in that list, Snowbro, or Prompto.
>>Cloud made the list
>Shit taste, I have tosay.

>>379149261
>shattered mess that in FFXV
The thing is in Kingsglaive there was actually some pretty cool world building with the politics between Insomnia and the Empire and we got to see the ring and the Kings of Lucii and all that good stuff.
I was expecting the game to take that and run away with it but instead I got an empty map with gas stations and all plot events happening off screen.

>>379149343
Well, they have to finish with XV first, which will take a year. We probably won't see it for a long time.

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>>379149205
Pls no

>>379148789
E3 please, KH3 info or I lose interest.

And I oddly wish for two things; long-haired KH2 roku model back, and riku+kairi as playable characters.

>>379148347
Never did I imply it was good, but numbers is a good indicator that they know what their audience want. Well, some of them.

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>>379149438
Oh lord

>>379149438
thicc stella is best stella

>>379149127
Probably fujos as well.

>>379149243
This was from 2012, the last time they seemingly did a male poll. I mean, at least Noctis beat Lightining on the poll for what FF character Japan wants in KH.

>>379149420
>Well, they have to finish with XV first, which will take a year. We probably won't see it for a long time.
It's sad that's not even a joke.

>>379149343
I didnt even know about it but it looks badass

>>379149508
well the game had 10 years of marketing...

>>379149385
>Clouds not shit taste personified.

mind the edge.

>>379149343
Its not gonna come anytime soon, Tabata said he wants new IP after XV.

>>379149484
>E3 please, KH3 info or I lose interest.
Anon, SE said that'll probably see KH and FFVIIR release in 2019ish. Don't hold your breath. And they're already having problems getting staff for VIIR.

>>379149567
If you haven't already, play Type-0. It's not actually that bad. Just keep in mind it's a PSP game originally.

The ending was pretty fucking emotional.

>>379149540
No more FF male characters need in until Vaan is in there. Sora and Vaan's adventure theme seems to go hand in hand.

>>379149392
>The thing is in Kingsglaive there was actually some pretty cool world building with the politics

That's actually part of the problem with FFXV. It's basically a bunch of randomly scattered projects with no direction that each team got way too into without figuring out how to put into a game. So we have a bunch of cool looking teleporting assets, a boy-band concept (which isn't a terrible idea, if done well), open world gameplay, and random lore and politics to set up the game scenario.

And then the teams got together and asked "Wait, how do we present this as a coherent thing to the player?" "Oh, we can't." That's how we ended up with a movie, an anime, and the game just to tell one fucking story.

None of the individual components in FFXV were really bad (at worst, they were underdeveloped, because of a complete lack of a coherent vision), but they are a complete literal mess.

>>379149670
>SE said that'll probably see KH and FFVIIR release in 2019ish.
You can't be this retarded

>>379149670
>2019

Christ.

>>379149783
2019ish is actually a pretty good window for a man helming two massive projects at once

>>379149782
SE said that officially to shareholders. It's in their own reports. And if you add in the fact that they're desperate for staff for VIIR, it could take longer if they start moving staff around.

>>379149670
>KH release in 2019
No way. Squenix needs to dump info for a 1 year wait at maximum. They HAVE to know by now that any longer is gonna make future sales nosedive, because people are losing interest quickly.

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>>379141995
>overly-massive ambitions
>falling for the open-world trend
>unimaginative fujoshit-preferences reaching its peak
>couldn't decide on a good gameplay system
>massive mid-way development switcheroos

This was probably THE game to beat out BioShock Infinite in terms of "promising trailers getting neutered and falling flat on its head".

I think everyone has said all that needs to be said about this financially successful, but ideaological trainwreck. However, I think there's a few things that really stand above the rest of the crap:

>they released it in early access essentially, which meant they had to constantly fix all the retardation and poor game balance, IN A SINGLE PLAYER GAME, which reminds me of the garbled mess that was FF6 and the 10 recalls and re-releases it had to go through so it wouldn't break the moment you started it up
>advertise an open world, but saturate it with nothing but generic mobs and generic fetch quests, for items you won't even need
>horribly designed, and minimal, superbosses, which are HP sponges that can be quick time evented into oblivion
>advertise the stupid car, but it doesn't do anything, since fast travel is more efficient, and yes this includes the flying regalia.
>asking me to care about characters which require at least 30 different tie in material just to know who they are, or more importantly, why I should care about them

>>379149392
I've barely started XV but so far I was blown away by how little world building there was in a fucking Final Fantasy game, how can there be no story cutscenes in Insomnia? The one time something happened at the city the cutscene was so chopped up and disjointed you could barely tell what was going on and then suddenly the city is just destroyed, oh well.

>>379149745
It's a shame too because a lot of the lore behind it is pretty neat but in the game you go from moment negotiating with Hillary Clinton to running around in an astronaut suit fighting daemons. Then you have almost all major events happening off screen.

>Expecting the Nifelheim invasion to be some badass sequence in game
>Literally Ignis reading a newspaper to Noctis

>>379149890
You literally don't know what the fuck you're talking about, jesus christ
>SE said that officially to shareholders
They said within the next 3 years. They want to release at least 1 major blockbuster each year. They have kh3, 7RE, and the marvel IP in that slide. Figure it out
>desperate for staff for VIIR
Is this your first time hearing about a company hiring? Are you not aware that they have done this before at the very least? Are you stupid?

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>>379144776
Where's the source of this model? Did Versus get leaked?

>>379149939
I'm being 100% serious but you have to watch Kingsglaive and Brotherhood to fully enjoy the game in terms of story.

>>379149641
Of course cloud made the list you dumb fuck hes practically the face of FF whether you like him or not. What was really autistic were your choices for the list

>>379149981
>Niff invasion is a cutscene

FUCKING THIS

>the combat tutorial in menu has no place in the actual game, and you never see Insomnia again until shitty endgame.

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>>379149908
What I realized after playing the game was that all the most recent trailers for the game show off all the best parts, but in the game they are too far scattered and extremely short. Pic related is the coolest sequence in the back half of the game and barely lasts 5 minutes.

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>>379146601
>Playable character: Iris
>Playable character: Lunafreya
What are the chances of this happening?

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>>379150149
One day I guess

>>379149981
>Expecting the Nifelheim invasion to be some badass sequence in game
It was, then Tabata felt it should be a movie and cut it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7MwTXYLpg

>>379150160
The face of final fantasy?
I hope you're not truly that retarded. It's either the Chocobo, or Moogle.

>>379150236
>TFW Warp Striking through all the Nif airships
That part was actually based but unfortunately, like you said, it's a drop in the bucket in terms of gameplay and was followed by chapter 13 which takes two hours.

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>>379150329

>there's too much gamepray in this, cut it immediatery!
>we need more cinematic cutscenes!

>>379150210
Day insomnia is not even combat tutorial, its just stuff you can play while game installing.
>>379150301
They all gonna be playable in multiplayer anyway, rather vote for any story related shit.

>>379150138
Some guy ripped some files like Bahumut and nude models for that old Lady in Altissia and Gentiana. Don't get too excited though, he never released the uncensored version of Gentiana publicly.

The guy is pretty lame, he didn't dig any further which is a fucking shame. I want to see the cut content.

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>>379150395
Speaking with Game Informer, director Hajime Tabata says the narrative direction was entirely intentional – namely the important events that happened off-screen. “It was for the players to experience the story through Noctis’ eyes,” he told the magazine. “The world and the events that Noctis sees are merely things that are seen through his eyes. We didn’t want to create a comprehensive and perfectly balanced story in this game. Instead, we placed importance on the main characters and for the player and Noctis to share the same experience when we tell the story.”

With this sort of narrative design philosophy in hand, Tabata said it was only natural to increase the proportion in which the main characters are depicted. “It’s not that we decreased the role of the side characters,” he explained. “Focusing on many characters in the game means that the allocation given to the main characters will decrease. Instead of creating a comprehensive and perfectly balanced story, we placed greater importance on the four main characters and strived to depict a world seen from their perspective.”

>>379150301
Iris is an actual combatant character from story clues, but Luna? Nah.

Aranea is a dragoon-class character, so far more likely given the popularity and widespread pull towards suh a class.

Maybe if Squenix fans in general didn't jerk it off to Sephiroth apparel or Cloud2.0, there might be a chance.

>>379150329
Was Versus going to be open world or have connected open areas, because I think Tabata preferred to have an Open World in exchange for sequences like Insomnia

>>379150395
Funny thing because game lacks fucking cutscenes.

>>379150482
Narrative wise yes this makes sense.
Gamer wise, we just want MORE.

>>379150334
At on point maybe but cloud and his buster sword have now becomes synonymous with ff. People who dont know shit about ff can tell you clouds in it. If you ask them what chocobo or a moogle is they wont know what the hell youre talking about. Its time to face reality anon

I wanted more shit to do around Altissia

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>>379150446
The guy who ripped them only shows off nude Hilary and no one else. He's a cruel bastard. Especially after teasing Gentiana like that.

>>379150526
It was "open world", but looked more connected than XV. They never showed the Regallia in footage, for example.

>>379150138
>>379144776
Also, fun fact: This is the only non-trailer version of the old Noctis outfit ever shown. When Versus gameplay was released, it was his newer costume or the old, royal suit. This model would have been used in the closed door demos they showed press in 2009ish.

How interesting is that?

>>379150482
Thats the biggest load of horseshit ive ever heard

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>>379150329
>On a hard drive somewhere in SE HQ, there is a fully functioning build of Versus XIII
>We'll never see it

>>379150625
I'm ready for the edge todie off.
FF needs a bro-tier, ambitious protag that's in it for the action. Saving the world just happens to happen.

>>379150482
I feel like this is just an excuse because they ran out of time or spent too much time on needless things like food, open world etc.

>>379150676
Some YouTuber had a full render of the uncensored Gentiana, but censored it and hasn't seemed to release an uncensored picture of it.

>>379150712
Because there was no Regalia in Versus.

>>379150716
>>379150794
It's funny because that rule is broken like when we see Luna greet Umbra after she escapes Insomnia or the conversations between her and Ravus.

>>379150725
I hope it's not lost. SE literately lost the source code to KH1 I think.

>>379150838
In trailers there was a car, but it was more realistic version of the Regalia (and honestly better).

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>>379150901
>TFW unironically had a stronger emotional attachment to the Regalia than Luna

>>379150729
Honestly Im with you anon. We want the same thing. But unfortunately cloud will probably be the most recognizable thing from ff for the rest of our lives via Smash, KH, and god knows what else

>>379150931
I honestly didn't really care for Luna at all. Not even being edgy, she was bland and when it came to females, Iris, Cidney and Aranea were better.

>>379150236

>nearly everything after Altissia is train chapters

Did they just forget to design a final act until the last two months of devtime?

>>379150725
>there is a fully functioning build of Versus XIII
I don't think there is

>>379150989
The player is also hardly even introduced to her before she's killed off.
Feels like they were trying to recreate Aeris' scene without realizing why Aeris' scene was emotional.

>>379150989
For sure Iris and Cindey were not better. Especially monkey chan.

>Reminder that we're literately getting a multiplayer "expansion" for FFXV this year

What a fucking waste.

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>>379150931
>people are so desperate to spend time with her that they glitch the game and go Oob to fly around her static model in Altissia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46CY1dAnETE

>>379150989

>Tabata dumps Stella because he says Luna is such a drastically unique character
>shows up in a couple flashbacks and then dies

Final Fantasy style in high def realistic graphics always looks stupid

The sprite art and early cartoonish designs are what made it work.

FF15 looks like a parody of what people assumed FF games were 15 years ago

>>379150989
amen.

>>379150967
secretly, it's because of this that I almost wish for FF7 remake to flop.

>>379150931
>>379151071
can't blame them.

>>379151074
I remember they said that Stella have very little screentime, can't even imagine how its possible.

>>379151026
It's funny because even in Kingsglaive and Brotherhood she wasn't particularly interesting.

I haven't finished FFVII by the way but from what I've seen, Aeris was kind hearted, had actual personality and was the type of character you'd want to protect. Luna just didn't give me that feeling.

>>379151159
>have very little screentime
There is no way. Why cut her in the first place then. Fuck sake

>>379150729
They gave you Tidus a decade ago and look at how that turned out. Everyone is busy jerking it off to edgelord like Cloud and Squall instead.

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Tell me now, why is this nigga is not MC or atleast permanent party member?

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>>379151074
Lol what the fuck was unique about her? The only thing I even remember about her is the british accent that her, Ignis, Regent, and Ardyn had for no god damn reason even though NOBODY else in the entire fucking game has it

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>>379151258
>STOP RIGHT THERE GOERS!
Never got the hate for Tidus, he was pretty based.

>Shiva has nothing better to do than to photobomb every other tenth time Prompto takes a shot
>Nobody bas sai anything about her being either an exhibitionist or voyeur.

I wanted more time with the doggo.

>>379147681
Lightning has a few cool things about her and is an okay design but at the same time I feel like she was designed by a focus group

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>>379151309
She has best feet in game industry.

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>>379151137
If i can only play as cloud in the remake im gonna be fucking pissed

>>379151460
They showed Barret being played.

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>>379151460
>YFW they use XV's combat for VII remake

>>379151460
Don't worry, Tifa orAerith are sure to get a playable cutscene

>>379148427
To be fair, Serah is better then people give her credit since XIII-2 made it clear that Lightning and Snow both really put her on a pedestal and she is more of a spoiled goofball prone to throwing tantrums when things don't go her way rather then PURE PERFECT INNOCENT GIRL you get the impression of from Snow and Lightnings flashbacks. Then LR goes back to show Lightnings and Snows viewpoints again and she is once again on a pedestal.

>>379151541
I think it's more akin to Lightning Returns

>>379151584
Both Lightning and Serah is shit

>>379151541
Honestly that exactly what Im worried about

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>>379151460
>inb4 can't go around smashing things with Tifa

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>>379151593
I actually really liked combat in LR, making species go extinct was addicting.

>>379151541
It looks nothing like xv's gameplay

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>>379151626
Serah is great though.
I don't understand how Lightning polls higher than her superior sister.

>leave /v/ for a few weeks
>come back and there's an XV thread without XV-kun
What the hell is going on?

>>379151747
>>379151659
>>379151541
FFXV's gameplay seems to be Tabata's idea. If you look at Versus' gameplay, it had more similarities to KH. You could even double jump.

>>379151773
Usually he's here around these times. Guess life caught up to him.

>>379151773
It's weird, I haven't seen him in a day or two
Wonder if he's serving a ban

>>379151819
Its almost the exact same as Type 0 only somehow worse.

>>379151819
Square Enix has taught not to trust anything. Ever.

>>379151761
She is disgusting. Pretty much everything about her, animation, voice, looks. Not as much as Vanille but still. Atleast Lightning is good looking.

>>379151878
Was Type-0's story a disaster too because I've played three Tabata games and the stories have disaster zones in all of them.

>>379151936
Yes

>>379151874
He evades all his bans. Maybe this >>379151835
happened and his parents made him get a summer job.

>>379151905
>Hating on Laura Bailey

>>379151936
I didn't think so, at least not completely. Theres a ton of background lore you can read, and the idea of FF WWII is novel. Hell you even have a magical society facing off against a technological one.

>>379151936
Most definitely.

>>379151905
>good looking

inferior to any other 13 female.

>>379151936
It has the exact same problems as XV, right down to story pacing being dreadful and the last couple of chapters insanely rushed. It's almost uncanny. Even the actual game is the same with 90% of the playtime spent running around the boring, tedious, and ugly environments and running around and doing inane quests.

Tabata is probably the most consistent(ly terrible) game director I've come across.

>>379152065
The exploration tho was a cursed abomination.

>>379141995
Nothing other than being a bit rushed towards the end and only being allowed to take one hunt at a time.

>>379152086
Not gonna argue, they all shit. Especially Vanille.

>>379150931

That's due to this thing called gameplay and impact. Alot of great games had this in the past, where we got to love something and appreciate it because it actually made the game more fun, or more tolerable at least. luna was nothing but cutscene fodder, whereas the Regalia at least helped you fast travel.

>>379151936
I didn't hate it, but you have to remember, it was limited by being a PSP game. Also that ending was genuinely emotional.

>>379141995
It's the best FF.

>>379152140
Vanille was....bearable.
Fang is truly the best 13waifu though.

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>>379152189

It's time

>>379152130
I remember people saying it was a "true" FF since we were in the Lightning age at the time and it had an overworld and chocobos and shit, and they were pissed it was Jap only. I think it is, better than fucking XV anyway.

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>>379152209
um no sweetie

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>>379152209
Patrician taste.

>>379152189
nah son, it fell short of the core expectations for the series' fans. It was enjoyable with no high expectations, and the nding did get a tear out of me, but looking back, I did want some more.

>>379152275
This is literally a man. Truly a best """"girl""""

>>379152269
>sweetie
christ you're a fag, or a woman. In which case, where's my BLT?

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>>379152313
(You)

>>379152269
>cloud with PMS
naaaaaaaaaah

>>379152275
Oh look, one of my niggas

>>379152370
nice manjaw

>>379141995
No armpit fanservice like FFXIII.

>>379152370
God, it's like looking at a soft CG Lara croft, but in a FF game.
Diamonds every time.

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>FFXIII
>Years of hype
>Turns out to be shit too linear

>FFXV
>Years of hype
>Turns out to be shit too open

FF has long died. Other JRPG franchises/games have taken it's place

>>379152380
>>379152337

why does she look good in everything

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>>379152403
/thread

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>>379146601
Hard mode, Ardyn's past, Ifrit's betrayal, World of Ruin, Luna's activities, Noctis's disappearance.

Hope world of ruin shows us 25 year old Iris.

>>379152440
>dq babby
lol get out

>>379141995
Just about everything but S-E released the game 10 years after it was announced to make sure the fanbase was thirsty enough to by it regardless of quality.

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>>379152441
sorry i forgot pic

>>379142596
That looks exactly the same as your average KH2 reaction command boss.

>>379141995

Almost everything.

Impressive, really.

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>>379152465
Why doesn't Older Iris coma and pick up Noctis in the World of Ruin section? Who the hell thought we wanted to see older Talcott? I know they were trying to pay off his arc but come on now. As a matter of fact, why wasn't everyone waiting for Noctis' arrival at hammer head to send him off? Shit like this irks me.

>>379152508
>kittyslut outfit
>on the most emotionally bland breadnbutter female

You must have Pheonix Down syndrome.

>>379152609
What irks is me that the game tried to make a big deal of Jared's death but I was sitting there wondering who the fuck Jared was.

>>379152526
This, I can't remember the last time I played a game this bad. Even Fallout 4 and SFV are better, to me anyway.

>>379152609
Yeah, and where the fuck was Cindy all that time?

>the station stop is largely the same appearance.
>no walls.
>no spotlight improvements.

I skipped out on exploring the WoR world, so did I miss much?

>>379147442
Lol just no. Aranea still manages to have more development to her character than Lightning has in 3 games.

>>379152616
she had a rough life

also there's nothing wrong with kittyslut outfits

>>379152675
some dude from a shitty sub sammich joint.

>>379148275
Yep.

>>379152692
>I skipped out on exploring the WoR world, so did I miss much?
You can't explore anything.

>>379149274
Ah, yes DoC. The game that implies Jenova was some other planets Omega Weapon.

>>379152609
Why were the fellas all wearing the same outfit as they did 10 years ago? Where did they get the KG outfits and the king's mantle?

>>379148356
It's the highest selling PS4 game in Japan, in fact the only PS4 game in Japan to be over 1m.

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>>379152779
Japan loves XV.

>>379150482
That's bullshit, there are scenes where Noctis isn't even present, like the one with Luna and the guards pointing guns at her.

Besides, making a story that makes no sense to the player is plain bad writing, if they wanted to show Noctis pov that much just put it so the player can read/see the whole picture some other way like Nier Gestalt/Replicant did.

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>>379151541

That's a depressing realization...

>Can't tell what the fuck is happening. Too chaotic, everyone runs around aimlessly
>Can't even see enemy's full model
>Random numbers and texts popping up everywhere confusing me

>>379152707
Snow had worse.
He lost his fiance twice ffs, and had more change to his character than lightning. She barely took a step in terms of character developement.

Meanehile, Fang's lore is more interesting than Lightning's for sure.

>>379152518
That's not the bad part.
You have to jump around aimlessly for about 10 minutes until you activate your super Armiger or whatever and start wailing on him, and even then he has a million HP and it takes ages for him to die.
The novelty of the fight wears off long before the boss dies, and what should be a cool power moment becomes paralyzingly boring.

>>379152875
Snow also threw a several hundred year rager at Yusnaan. Not all bad.

>>379150446
>cut content
If it's on the disc it's not cut content. Stuff like the versus outfit is just dummied assets.

>>379152762
shit on a stick.

>>379152920
Dude had to drown his sorrows in tiddies, bacardo, and music.

>>379150838
There was, in an interview in 2013 Nomura said that in 2012 they were struggling to get the car to work on the PS3 because the map couldn't keep up so they moved to 8th gen. The car you see in the 2008 CGI trailer was the original regalia design which Nomura said would undergo a change, which became the current regalia. That original regalia design remained as the car design that the royal council members drive which can be seen in kingsglaive and brotherhood.

>>379150482
I can see Tabata and BD2's ass burn ablaze with this interview.

>>379151541
The foolishness behind this is that SE wants their cake and to eat it too. The fantastic animations they want everything to have doesn't work with a normal third person camera. It's simply not able. Imagine Contra as a FPS with your POV being the only difference.

>>379143059
To have proof that you can pass collage. We call it "signaling" in economics. It's not your skills that matter, but the fact that you can single-handedly produce a thesis building upon five years of training.

It's the same concept as advertising. Ads don't really tell you about the quality of the product, because they are essentially 100% bullshit. In most cases though, having a highly-paid celebrity in your ad means that you have enough confidence in your product to have the future sales cover the costs of having an expensive face drinking your soda.

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>>379151541
7R looks nothing like XV, also why do you keep reposting this same old as fuck webm of some retard playing like shit?

>>379152859
That's just because whoever is playing there is playing like shit.

>>379151819
Basic combos and movement between the two look the same, while they added manual weapon switching and proper warping/warpstrikes in the final game, while Versus had all auto weapons and the warp was also auto, and they realized they had no need for a double jump because of things like warpstrikes and airsteps.

Other than that the 2011 trailer having a command menu was just pasted on because not once in that entire trailer was it shown being used.

>>379152218
It is.

>>379152284
As a long time fan it was.

>>379147858
It's a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." The cliches work so they don't steer too far from them.

Western devs keep doing some really stupid shit trying to put feelers out and then can't even make attractive characters cause of sjw pandering.

We were having a great thread
Now barry has arrived

>>379152440
No one gives a shit about DQ.

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>>379153307

>>379152858
There is like less than 10 minutes of stuff in the 40 hours of the game that isn't from his perspective, that doesn't change that the vast majority is from his perspective.

>>379153307
You should have expected him to appear. He always appears

>>379153409
At least we got halfway to bump limit this time

>>379153307
Stop derailed the thread.

>>379153389
There will be more with story additions.

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>no taking the boat out to explore all those islands
>denying Prompto the glory of beach episode with Cindy/Iris/Aranea and Gentiana

Why?

>>379152692
They have wire fence around the place and armed guards situated, and the spotlights are the anti daemon lights so daemons don't come near those lights anyway.

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>>379141995
I want to lick his nose!

>>379152883
No you don't. You just have to warpstrike Leviathan's head twice then it moves to the next part where he goes super saiyan, and depending on what you say to leviathan then the fight will either be over quickly or Leviathan will get even more HP taking longer.

>>379153536
Yeah now, which is after the fact. The fact remains that when it released the story was largely being shown from Noctis's perspective, that's the reason why the radios, newspapers, books and NPCs you overhear with story exposition all exist to begin with.

I really wanted more out of the dungeons. That platforming one was really neat, but everything else felt like it was randomly generated.

>>379153809
yeah, I'm with you there, anon.

>>379153765
Then why bother adding them at all? Or better yet, to stay consistent, why not add all the additional story info in in the form of newspapers and radio calls?

>>379153809
They didn't feel random at all, they all had a specific design layout and form to them. Like both Steyliff and Costlemark are Solheim ruins with similar design aesthetic but Steyliff felt nothing like Costlemark because of the whole underwater rooftop thing.

>>379153937
Because they want to show other stuff now?

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>>379141995
It's literally Naruto for girls.

>>379154082
No it isn't and that doesn't even make any sense.

>>379153985
Ghe bosses of each could have been a bit more....thematically accurate. Jormunger rightfully should have been near the swamplands.

The one near the Insomnia border I expected to be a slime.

>>379154119
Just because it doesn't make sense doesn't mean he's wrong.

>>379154254
He is wrong.

>>379154316
But he isn't
End of discussoin

>>379141995
It was made by Shitnix.

/thread

>>379154372
/thread

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tfw it was shit on propose.

>For FINAL FANTASY XV, let’s say you do go explore the beaten path and you run into an enemy that’s too strong. We made sure you’re able to escape. You know, there’s plenty of opportunity to escape so that you don’t see the Game Over screen. The screenshot you see here on the slide is Carbuncle. If you play the game on Easy mode, every time you’re in Danger, he’ll come out and keep Noctis alive. We almost made a game that’s almost impossible to see the Game Over screen.

>Some of the stronger mob hunts, obviously we made sure that Carbuncle doesn’t come out. But in those situations, you can just carry on with 99 Hi-Potions or Ex-Potions, and you should be able to make it through.

>Because this time around it was an open-world game, people can kind of play the game at their own pace and progress at their own pace, and we couldn’t tie the game design and balance to your party level because people play differently.

>We changed the balance to be more playtime based, which means we lowered the experience you get from monsters. So you can’t spend hours grinding and getting an unfair advantage over other players; but on the other hand, what we did was we made the experience you get from completing quests—side quests, main quests—to be a lot more.

>>379154235
I dunno I felt that having serpent enemies fit the sewer dungeon thematically. And having a dragon jaberwock in the magitek room at the bottom of Costlemark felt like it had something big guarding a secret of solheim, since that was the only enemy and room in that dungeon that looked like that.

>>379154372
He is. End of discussion.

>>379154480
But all that shows that they made it good on purpose.

>>379154480
what's the problem exactly?

>>379154038
I don't understand why they have two very different ways of telling their story? Seeing scenes like backdoor Nifleheim discussions, Ardyn and Ravus, Ravus and Luna, luna and gentiana only stings harder for fans that wanted to see particular events play out in the main game. And now that they'readding it all in after the fact, it begs the question as to why it wasn't in their in the first place? It's not going to hamper my point of view as Noctis in any way, since i've played tons of games that take that approach and still feel immersed...

>>379154480
>We almost made a game that’s almost impossible to see the Game Over screen.
Did anyone else only get a Game Over once they got the Type F?

>>379154572
>>379154569

Spot the casual garbage.

>>379154495
A huge ass Golem would have fit, but I suppose you have a point.

Still, I wish the enemies in each dungeon would differ much more.

379154513
>keeps the discussion going after it ended
>has no further argument so he relies on "no u"
>will continue to do this for many more posts
pathetic

>>379154626

Why'd you leave out the part where he's saying that was something they kept from other FFs that you could stock up on potions to blast through something which is something they wanted to keep for XV too?

>>379154617
Yes, the first time I crash that useless piece of shit, was the first time I saw the Game Over screen.

What the fuck is up with the retarded post game hunts? I tried to beat the lv65 malboro with lv 73 noctis and he oneshots me. Like what the fuck is the point? Am I supposed to buy 99 hipotions and elixirs and spam them all while hacking away at the boss for 25 minutes?

That's not a video game. I mean that is absolutely zero gameplay

>>379154645
The irony.

>does exactly what I said
pathetic

DUDE LETS MAKE A BIG OPEN WORLD GAME

Oh wait, we've ran out of money.

>>379154695
Get gud. Get better weapons, set up your buffs properly, get a better loudout, learn how to play.

>proceeds to be ironic again

>>379154661
Because that's horseshit. Before you can had all the potion that you want, but in order to use one you have to waste one turn for one character and change your strategy around that. Now, in XV, you pause the action use all you inventory if that's what you need and carry on with the fight without any problem at all.

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>>379154741
Another topic fielded by Game Informer touched on the later chapters of the game, where things become a lot more linear. This again, according to Tabata, was intentional.

“Based on calculations that the development time and cost would double if the latter half of the game was to be an open-world environment as well, we had already planned to make the latter half more of a journey by vehicle. The structure of this title – to create memories while traveling in the open-world environment during the first half of the game, then have the story move forward linearly using the train in the latter half of the game – was designed and intended to be that way.”

>>379154742

>learn how to play

Except the game has nothing you can influence with your skills. I am 8 levels overleveled. The boss does 4k damage with basic attack while I have 3,8k health.

There is no "gitting gud" in that equation

>>379154810
No it isn't, it's 100% fact which you knew it would ruin your little attempt at a shitpost which is why you left that part out.

Wasting a turn means fucking nothing when you have multiple avenues of input and there is no strategy involved because you're just inputting whenever you get a chance to input, just like in XV where you are healing whenever you get a chance to heal. In no FF has there been strategy around when you need to heal other than "oh my HP is low better get it back up" and pop a potion or whatever.

>>379154781
xv-kun why prove him right
Just ignore him

>>379149981
felt more like merkel than clinton

>>379154924
Except it does, which you'd know if you bothered to learn how to play it properly.

Get impervious, get blink, get airstep and airdance, get airslip, use shields, learn how to use buffs properly, get better accessories to equip, learn how to maximize damage dealt and minimize damage received by making proper use of shields, dodges and cancels, make timely use of magic which can deal a ton too which you can maximize through the items you craft into it.

>>379150997
So normally I guess the process is

1. Having overarching theme/story direction
2. Design cool scenes
3. Fill in the blank spots between the cool scenes with story and development.

They did 1, then 2.

Then they lost their drafts for 1.

And then they forgot to do 3 until two days before the deadline.

>>379154925
If you think that you can abuse the potion in previous FF without any setback at all, just goes to show how little you know about the series

>>379155109
But XV has an overarching theme and direction the story goes, which even with new stuff being added doesn't change it.

>>379155109
>Then they lost their drafts for 1.
More like they threw out the drafts

>>379155124
So you have 3, 4 or 5 party members in the turn based FFs, you have 3, 4 or 5 avenues of input at anytime then, the game is already setup in a way where you can just spam your strongest attacks or even just regular attacks and get by, then using one turn every so often to heal everything, most of the time you don't even need to heal during battle and you'd just go rest up at an inn or pop a tent or heal up outside of battle.

If you use one turn to heal but the other two to attack, what is being set back exactly?

>>379155162
They had the bullet points.

They clearly forgot which parts were supposed to go where. That's how we need an entire movie to properly set up the political backdrop behind Noctis' quest.

>>379155197
Well it was made over 10 years things get lost

>>379155057

Nope. The boss literally one shots you. Plus the fact that the boss has a health bar that takes over 30 minutes to beat.

Stop defending this piece of shit game

>>379155313
But the political stuff has nothing to do with the overarching theme, the overarching theme of FFXV is the brotherhood between the bros, and the overarching story lorewise is the one about Ardyn and the kings of Lucis and the crystal.

Kingsglaive doesn't tell the audience anything about those that you don't already learn in the game, and KG has nothing to do with the brotherhood of the party either. Anything important that does happen in KG is learned in the game.

>>379155390
Dude it's obvious you just suck shit at the game and aren't willing to actually listen to how to better yourself at it. Again learn what buffs do already.

>>379154480
>unfair advantage over other players
>in a single player game
What the fuck am I reading?

>>379154617
Type F is the real final boss.

>>379141995
They made it the exactly wrong way. Instead of going with "Linear gameplay to settle the story, increasing the openess of it step by step, then a totally open world in the end", they went with "totally open world game, and then suddenly ultra linear to cram in some story for the world that you have already explored".

>>379155509
In relation to comparing with other people also playing the game.

>>379155569
But the linear part happens in the places you haven't been to yet.

>>379155645
Ive finished the game like half a year ago brew. As i said, they should have made it linear --> open world and not open world --> linear.

>>379155428

The beginning of the game literally sets you up to believe they're going for a a simple redemption story in the backdrop of a war, which would've been nice, but boy does that get cucked.

>>379155428
The theme they nailed, but the story direction they completely messed up.

There was clearly, at some point, a bigger, more coherent story they wanted to tell. What we had in FFXV was a lot of "go here do this" where the rationale behind that was often reasonably significant but terribly presented. Like even the most basic quest to go marry Luna. Is it urgent, or not? I don't deny that answers to these can be found somewhere, but they should be front and center rather than details to be picked up in the background. Having incredibly important plot points just overheard as you walk down the train or written on a note at a computer console is terrible, terrible story direction. Imagine if in FFX we barely knew what the point of Yuna's pilgrimage was, or it was just something that some besaid villager mentions at some point if you talk to them.

Note that this doesn't necessarily take away from the game. Players are remarkable good at just "going along" with whatever's happening at the moment without really needing a good justification. Especially so when you have quest markers and other player-friendly mechanisms.

>>379155569
I mean, they were coming back from the other extreme of FFXIII which was even worse

>>379155749
The story is linear the whole game though, and the open world part of the game which is the Lucis region does gradually get more open as you progress.

In Ch1 and ch2 you can only go to Leide, then in ch3 you can go to Duscae and Cleigne but not to the north of Cleigne yet, then in ch4 you do the Titan stuff and in ch5 you can only do stuff in Duscae, then in ch6 you can only do stuff in the lower side of Cleigne and west side of Duscae, then in ch7 only stuff in the northern side of Cleigne, then in ch8 the whole of Lucis open world is now open up to you.

Ch9 is then you in Altissia, then ch10-14 is linear on the train to Niflheim, starting in Cartanica doing the swamp dungeon, ch11 a setpiece on the way to Tenenbrae, ch12 Tenebrae then then going through the snow, then ch13 getting to Gralea then through the Niflheim empires fortress, before ch14 is back in Lucis with you only being able to run around the area near Galdin quay before you are taken to Hammerhead and then to Insomnia dungeon for the end.

>>379155889
FFXIII fucked up because the names and level designs were all so fucking similar you felt like you are playing the same damn level over and over again, and at the end you got "rewarded" with a boring and small open world. The general concept (linear --> open) was not wrong, they just implemented it catastrophically. Every FF ever followed that concept and most of them were great.

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>>379155862
>getting flashbacks of that quest where you go to avenge some old guy you know next to nothing about by raiding a nif base and kidnapping a nif commander to interrogate, only to have him escape and render the mission pointless

>>379156074
>The general concept (linear --> open) was not wrong, they just implemented it catastrophically

Oh absolutely, I'm just saying that they came from the other extreme which was evne worse, so FFXV is some sort of progress, even if it's still wrong.

>>379156079
Oh fuck I totally forgot about that.

>>379155793
The game sets up that it's about the bros, which is why it has them pushing the car and bantering and bickering, because the focus is on their relationship and their brotherhood. Everything they go through during the story only builds into that, the brotherhood is the most important aspect of the game which is why they had that campfire scene during the credits to begin with. Because they knew that.

>>379155862
Important story stuff being like that makes XV feel like a deconstruction, like it's trying something new in making the events feel like things happening in the world while you were doing things, which is how a lot of things in the real world feel when you hear about stuff happening in other places of the world.

A rushed second half. A problem a lot of games have. They either ran out of budget or out of time.

>>379156254
>Important story stuff being like that makes XV feel like a deconstruction, like it's trying something new in making the events feel like things happening in the world while you were doing things, which is how a lot of things in the real world feel when you hear about stuff happening in other places of the world.

That's fair. Developers should experiment (though I'm not sure this one is entirely intentional). That said, we should still call out failed experiments. For the same reason, I can't really hate on, say FFVIII, because they were at least trying something new.

>>379141995
dogshit combat
bad haircuts

>>379156424
no

>>379156446
no you

>>379156254
>that makes XV feel like a deconstruction
kek no

>>379156482
It does. It treats massive events happening in the world the same way massive events happen in our own world, the way you hear about them and how people go about them. That isn't something you see in JRPGs often if ever.