>use a cigarette in a game >-1 HP

>use a cigarette in a game
>-1 HP
>Luck Up and Cooldown Reduction Up

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>>379141919
>use cigarrete
>-10hp
>+1 to CHA

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>use a cigarette in game
>Reveals hidden lasers

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>drink alcohol in game
>lose health
>gain mana

Why do people smoke

>use cigarette
>-health
>+eve

>>379143371
Women would never understand

>>379143371
Because they think it "helps with stress"

>>379143386
not an answer

>>379143371
people like killing themselves for some reason

>>379143371
I smoke and I don't even know

>>379143441
It does dumb ass. Nicotine feels nice it's a nice little drug that doesn't fuck you up too much. Stay mad I'm gonna still be smoking a pack a day and you wagecucks will have to foot the bill when my lungs fail

>>379143476
There's no point in giving an answer to a stupid question. I'd recommend actually talking to people, not bots.

>>379143371
So you can stress out and kill yourself over different people having lifestyles that aren't similar to yours.

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>wear fedora
>+1 CHR

>>379143371
I can't even imagine how peer pressure is a thing. Do some people just decide during work "I'm gonna intake a bunch of pathogens into my lungs that'll slowly and painfully kill me to reduce stress" instead of just going home and masturbating?

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Smoking in public, near children and near people who don't to breath smoke should be a criminal offense.

>>379143371
To give cancer to other people.
That's why I smoke.

>>379143523
Or you could learn to manage your problems like an adult

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>Use Cigarettes
>-1 HP
>Massive reloading improvements permanently
>Increases attackspeed permanently
>Increases hidden stats that grants you item drops per room
So basically, if you aren't bad: You chainsmoke all your HP down. And then you repeat that if you can heal, because item drops is healing items
Bonus point: Cigarettes was Convicts starting item before they realized how bonkers they where

>>379143608
it makes sense because Fallout universe is like a retro-future version of the 1950s, and back in the 50s hats were fashionable

>>379141975
this is what cigarette fags actually believe

>luck
you literally get cancer, the OPPOSITE of luck

>>379143586
>never smoke
>die from second hand
so this is the power of lifestyles, huh...

>>379143523
You'll probably regret it when you end up having to get a stoma and breath in through your fucking neck, and everyone will look at you and know how you got it.

>>379143675
having children at all should be a criminal offense because it's unfair to bring children into this world who did not ask for it.

>Drink alcohol
>-9 AGI
>-3 INT
>+1 CHA
>+1 STR
>+1 END

>>379143586

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

>>379143686
Adults use drugs and alcohol to mitigate their stress. Everyone has a vice, some people smoke, some people have sex with ladyboys, some people just veg out and watch TV

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>smoke cigarette in game
>screen gets blurry and wobbly

>>379143371
Why do you even exist

>>379143746
Fuck off Verb

>>379143628
>he jacks off to relieve stress
>he doesn't jack off just for thr tingly feel in his peepee

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>use a cig in game
>think it's all fine and looks cool
>later get throat and lung cancer and die

>>379143751
>drink a very small amount of alcohol
>+1 cha
>drink a lot of alcohol
>-10 cha

if you're around other drunk people it balanced out though because they have cha penalties too

>>379143371
Because I want to die

>>379143608
It's a reference to Indiana Jones you dingus
>Fedora is found in the fridge

>>379143734
Id have more than likely killed my self by that point of time. Step up anon

>>379143705
>you literally get cancer
You literally don't understand cancer at all, not even on a base level

>>379143529
This isn't twitter

>Dude weed
>-1 Int
>+lmao

>>379143812
I'm right though it's immoral to procreate

>>379143770
Yeah but I don't brag about how cool it is on the internet

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>>379143858
>Smoking doesn't cause cancer

>>379143886
Kek
I can't fucking stand when my friends smoke and dab when we play games. They go from being fun and good at games to being retarded and bad at games.

>>379143892
Did you vote for Jil Stein?

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>eat human flesh
>+1 evil

>>379144023
I didn't vote at all, but that' s not an argument and you can't actually disprove me

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>>379143858
Oh no he said you "literally get cancer" when you smoke instead of saying "evidence show that smoking may significantly increase the likelihood of growing cancerous cells.

How is that in any way relevant to his knowing of cancer "on a base level", I can't tell.

But I sure can tell that you're cancerous.

>>379143705
Cigarettes aren't little rolled up tumors. You can smoke a pack a day for decades and not get cancer, you're increasing the CHANCE of getting cancer. The actual part of a cigarette that kills you is the buildup of tar clogging your lungs.

>>379143371
It makes sure they won't live past 60 to see the next generation be a nuisance they can't possibly comprehend

>>379143371
Why do people drink?
Why do people overeat?
Why do people gamble?
Why do people spend money needlessly?

People aren't perfect and there are those that handle their worries worse than others. The cigarettes are just a placeholder, really.

>pro-creation fags this assblasted over the truth that their life is a lie
My sides

>>379144241
Wouldn't increasing the chances of getting cancer be more equivilant to decreasing your luck then?

>>379144197
I dunno about the whole cancer thing, but my mother had two strokes and died from her pack-a-day smoking.
Not who you were replying to, by the way.

>>379144019
I mean as bad as it is for you, they're having their version of fun being high while playing. As long as you aren't playing anything really heavily team oriented I don't see a problem with it.

>not smoking cigars

>>379144360
>that peircing
but why

>>379144360
go back to /r/communism

>>379144360
>Play The Biggest, Blackest Dick
>Instantly win
Fucking CAH

>>379144380
Pretty much. I'd stat a cigarette like this:
>permanent +5% chance to develop cancer debuff
>adds temporary +1 to CHA

>>379144051
>eat human flesh
>you feel bloated
>it's your favorite kind of flesh
>eat cat flesh
>-5 karma

>>379143371
The same reason people become addicted to video games or alcohol. It's an easy, short-term solution to a bigger problem.

>>379142631
>tobacco breath
>increasing charisma
Made me reply, i guess.

>>379144920
Thanks for letting us know you have zero knowledge about the subject underaged

>>379144960
>you must be underaged if you're not retarded enough to smoke.
How's things in bizarro world?

>>379144960
He's right though. Yellowing teeth and noxious breath do not contribute to good charisma.

>eat red meat in game
>+25 hp

>>379144298
/thread

>>379145194
Yes, and?

>>379143371
It's "cool" and makes you look "cool" so teens start it to be cool. By then its too late. I wonder why adults do it though, there's no reason. Then again I guess the same thing still applies. Just look at all the fags vaping after the fad who never smoked.

Then once they're addicted they keep doing it because of the nic fits and it "helping stress" when really they just get stressed more easily because of the addiction.

>>379145461
>no reason
it relaxes me during and after work or after uni
when i'm powering through an assignment the day before its due i might go for a walk and have a smoke to calm myself

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>>379143386
>>379143586
>>379143795
>>379143523
>all these smokers stumbling over themselves to defend their shitty habits
Feels good.

>defeat last boss in rpg
>he drops items and gold

>>379143371
Why do people Vape? I get that it has benefits but you look like you're sucking off C3PO with those stupid looking pens

>>379145593
>working and doing uni at the same time
>smoking
You're probably a lanky 20 year old with god awful tattoos. Fuck off faggot.

>>379145593
Literally read the 2nd line I posted. Also that was about why people start, not why the do.

>>379145667
i vaped to try and stop myself from smoking
unfortunately i'm painfully aware of how stupid i would look if i brought it in public so i ultimately end up smoking still since just vaping at home doesnt cut it

>>379145745
Please quit smoking in public

>>379144298
/thread

>>379145704
average weight 18 year old in 2nd year of uni
no tattoos
don't know why you're getting so offended?
>>379145715
yeah i read that but i don't reckon it stresses me out more - but then again i can go a week without them so i guess im not addicted, i just rarely see a reason not to have them

It should be -1 Max HP

>>379145863
Typical kid that can't handle stress. Fuck off and stop posting here.

>>379145801
i avoid inhaling when i see someone about to pass me on the footpath
and i make sure to steer clear of any children

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>>379143371

>>379143371
smoking should be banned in all public places honestly. If you wanna smoke go somewhere private that wont kill the people around you. On that note i think there should be smoke stations that have air filters (small buildings) in cities and shopping palces as a first step

>>379145929
and yet you're the one getting this assblasted? typical 'adult' can't handle a conversation

Cigs just need to keep being raised in price. There's literally zero reason for anyone in the world to smoke them. And if they get to a point where it's so expensive that if a parent buys them instead of food for their kids at least we know that kid has a horrible parent and can be taken away from them.

>>379143523
>>379143529
>>379144247
>>379143770
>"durr it relieves stress"
>these people show no signs of a reduction in stress, and in fact stopping smoking then causes them to experience even MORE stress. They foolishly convinced themselves that smoking reduces stress relative to this newfound level of stress caused by not smoking, which in turn was caused by starting in the first place.

>"durr this is how I adults.handle their problems"
This is how children believe that adults handle their problems. These children then become adults with their ignorant, misinformed perceptions because their parents never bothered to tell them any better. After all, it's what they do in all the "adult" movies.

Pathetic

>>379145967
I don't think we should even give smokers special areas like that. Maybe with it banned in public it'll be dead in a few generations.

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>>379146158

>>379146150
Pretty much, Just tax them to the point they are unattainable to the masses.

>>379146168
>I don't think we should even give smokers special areas like that. Maybe with it banned in public it'll be dead in a few generations.
youre forgetting defiancy and difficulty enforcing. In my city its banned through most of it but fags will be fags and smoke anyway and cops are too busy dealing with some boong shoplifting to enforce petty stuff

>>379146247
shits like 30$ for a 25 pack in australia and young people still buying them

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>>379144752
>Elona

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>>379146225

>>379145871
>-5 Max HP
>+5 Willpower (Temporary Buff)

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>>379141919
B-but they make me look cool!

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>>379145618
>shitty habits
>spends his time shitposting on 4chan

>>379143371
Same reason kids do weed or psychedelics: tobacco looks cool when they're young, but instead of relieving stress, after the first 2-3 smokes they're slaves to the nicotine because of all the stress it actually creates. Having actual hobbies and things to do can make said addiction weaker, hence why people who hate themselves/don't give any fucks tend to be the victims and sometimes move on to the hard drugs.

>>379145667
Today's version of cigs. It's new, shiny, hip like muh Antifa-stand and totally not full of nicotine, carcinogenic lead or pneumonia-causing vapor (lol).

I don't care if you smoke as long as you're not one of those cunts who do it while walking on busy city streets. Trash, unavoidable smell. Also, don't take the bus cause the stink sticks on you.

>>379146150
I don't think you understand anything about how people think if you believe taking away options due to being butthurt is an acceptable idea.

>>379143523
>>379143770
>>379143628
Cigarettes don't relieve stress. Becoming addicted to nicotine makes you crave it, which puts you on edge and the only way to take that edge off is to smoke. Smoking doesn't make you feel good, it makes your "normal" feel like shit and the only way to return to your original "normal" is to smoke again which by
comparison makes you feel good. Being addicted to nicotine is like constantly wearing tight uncomfortable clothes and smoking is just temporarily taking them off.

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>>379141919
>you can use the damage from the cigarettes to sequence break

>>379146710
I don't care what or how people think. Cigs are physical cancer sticks. If someone wants to kill themself they should just buy a gun and do it. Cigs only hurt the people around them that don't smoke including animals, humans and the environment.

>>379146710
If nuke-buttons were an available option to the public I certainly would want them gone too.

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>>379146526
>Dislikes: whales and small loud children
Oh the irony

>>379143523
Go back to the smoking section, nigger.
Oh wait, almost all restaurants don't even allow smoking in-doors at all anymore.
Better go do it outside, then.

>>379146748
you're mistaking smoking with chronic masturbation

>>379146992
is this an insult?

>>379143824
That feel in your peepee relieves stress.

Jesus do yer even into masturbation son.

>>379143746
I'm pretty sure life's joy makes it so you can't complain about it. If someone gives you a puppy you are going to be happy, sure it with shit and piss in the house and eat things it's not but that doesn't make it immoral to give someone a puppy. If you train your dog it will grow to be a loyal friend and make up for the bad things it had done but if you don't the dog will shit in the house and eat your shit so you will hate the dog. Why don't you just be a good dog owner and train your dog you waste of space.

>>379146968
You forgot
>mirrors

I quit smoking and started vaping

But only at home and I dont do it at front of others

>>379147013
It's the same for almost all addictions.

>>379146594
At least it doesn't kill me (physically)

>>379147176
It's not about your joy, fuck your joy you're not the one who is being forced into this world against your will. When you have children you're essentially a slave owner or a cattle baron creating property and not letting it have a say in its own right to existence.

>>379145097
It has a temporary +1 to Charisma because it looks masculine and adult in an "I make my own fucking choices." kind of way, and when betas get all irate about it they pretty much look like pussies as they bitch ineffectually.

However, long term cigarettes do fuck you up, so there's a trade off.

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>>379147269
>at least it doesnt kill me
wow anon how can you use computers don't you know it's killing your eyes

>>379144712
>+1 to cha
Not even. That'd be cigars or some shit. cigs are trash tier shit.

>>379141919
>Drink alcohol
>-3 INT
>+3 CHA

Alternatively
>Different kinds of spirits give different stat bonus'
>Rum gives STR bonus
>Vodka gives END bonus

>>379147395
>>>379147269
>>at least it doesnt kill me
>wow anon how can you use computers don't you know it's killing your eyes
I don't know if this is bait or not. There's 0 proof screens damage your eyes.

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>>379143692
>they instead give her the useless as fuck molotov and an item that requires you taking damage to actually use

if they made health common enough to actually have taking damage be a strategy it'd be one thing, but instead they make it so you're lucky to get a half heart before you fight the boss

this is why I dropped that shit

>>379143371
Billion dollar advertising and propaganda campaigns.

>>379147306
What about a child's joy? If they felt so awful like you make things out to be then why aren't there kids jumping off buildings? Is it because the most joyful time in ones life is usually childhood? Weird. How would you implement a system were you would consult a being without a conscience on whether or not it would like to live? Does the birth ban only pertain to humans or all creatures because they didn't ask to be born either.

>>379141975
Cigs are one of my favorite items in gungeon

>>379146158
Low amounts of tobacco induce a sense of "readiness", a higher heartbeat, more endorphines, the whole package. In higher doses tobacco is calming you down. It's like the initial body signs of a poison compared to the sedative effects tobacco has.

>>379147737
>If they felt so awful like you make things out to be then why aren't there kids jumping off buildings
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/health/kids-suicide-deaths-increase/index.html
That's exactly what's happening dumbass

>>379146342
if they're paying 30 a pack there's no way anybody could make them stop smoking

>>379147813
100 a pack. At least kids wouldn't be able to smoke them then.

>>379147737
when i was younger i was very suicidal and the only thing keeping me from taking my own life was the impact it would have on people around me.

I'm older now, and living a happier life while being independent, but at times I'm still reminded how unenjoyable and meaningless life really can be.

>>379146748
Why do people drink?
Why do people play video games?
Why do people binge eat?
Why do people drink coffee?
Why do people shitpost on the internet?
You basically described every addiction. Unfortunately humans aren't perfectly reasonable beings.

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>>379143746
>you need to have the childs consent and ask their opinion to do anything as a parent
Hello canada

>>379147910
sounds reasonable to me. Just stop the kids from smoking them due to extreme prices, and when the older generation dies off, boom, no smokers.

>>379141919
>People literally use a product that says it will cause a slow and painful death because they can't deal with that guy cutting them off in traffic
Just use a gun it's faster and cheaper in the long run you fucking pussies.

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>friend: "haha i have a great metabolism! i only eat fast food and candy and i'm thin as a twig!"
>he's been smoking a pack of cigarettes a day since he was like 15
>runs out of breath if he has to run for more than a few seconds
>hair is falling out rapidly in early 20's
>can visibly see veins bulging out of his head like a fucking dying ethiopian

I am getting worried about him.

>>379147910
>>379148019
I don't think either of you have any understanding of how humans function if you think that's going to work or if it's even morally correct to force people to do things against their will. If anything you're just showing your lack of intelligence.

>>379147805
"The lowest rate of suicide fatalities was 0.9 deaths per 100,000 kids in 2007, but that number doubled to 2.1" I was looking for something higher than 0% bud.

>>379147550
it definately can increase the rate your eyes deteriorate
optomitrists usually say if your eyes are going bad to take breaks from staring at the same thing every 15 minutes and focus on something far away

>>379148095
You smoke. You already a sub 70 IQ.

>>379146940
Unless you're a vegan faggot, your existence is hurting animals. Unless you're living in a shack having no electicity or other forms of luxury your existence is hurting humans. You're a poor fool, your stupidity hurt other people more than any smoker in the world.

>>379144197
>show that smoking may significantly increase the likelihood of growing cancerous cells.

Smoking has chemicals in it that literally release ion-stripping radiation.

It LITERALLY gives you cancer.

>>379148097
You're being obtuse but I'm still in the right, procreation is slavery and forcing a child into this world only to cause them to die is the worst thing you could ever do.

>>379148138
>fedora.jpg

>>379148068
Hes probably skinny fat aswell.
The classic trap

>>379148068
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the illusion of being skinny. The visible aspect of one's body is the weakest indicator of health. I would talk to him seriously about how unhealthy he is, and try to convince him that he needs to change his ways. If he understands the risk of his unhealthy ways and still refuses to change, well then, there's not much you can do without physical intervention.

>>379143371

They're physically addicted.

>>379143371
To distract enemies and avoid incoming enemy fire.

>>379148206
>muh genetics

>>379148158
At least I'm not giving loved ones asthma and cancer. If you smoke you should honestly be rounded up and gassed in the middle of NYC for millions to watch.

>>379148095
maybe you should stop smoking you fucking idiot. I don't want to live in a society with you gross degenerates. Stop sucking off your cancer sticks and maybe we wouldn't be discussing these prevention tactics.

Filthy fucks

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>ITT: NEETS who don't know what the stress of a fulltime job + anything else in their life is like act as if they have the moral high-ground about not smoking.

>>379148253
>le passive smoke maymay

>>379147959
"Usually childhood" ask a 7 year old about how their life is id bet 90% are having a swell time

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>>379148230
Goddamnit

>>379148283
what the fuck kind of pussy are you

just fucking drink

>>379144197
>>379143858
no dude the packs say you will FOR SURE get cancer. they don't even say maybe anymore because that's false advertisement.

>>379148250
how am i supposed to reply to this

>>379143371
they find pleasure in the aesthetics of it, or what they think to be the aesthetics.

>>379147372
I've been in a military service where people experience a lot of down time. I've seen people start smoking just because of boredom and because they want to hang out with smokers. Then they get hooked themselves before they even know it.
There was no masculinity or adulthood, no calculated decision making. People who smoke don't give off a charismatic vibe, they just look like idiots. Weak, addicts, smelly, and often jerks who don't care about their surroundings.

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>>379143326
>not attack up + defence down

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>>379148283
you know reading this thread i don't know how i forgot that most people here are probably neets who just browse 4chan all day

>>379148316
we can't act like the 10% don't exist.

>>379143371
Because I want to kill myself, just not right now. And because fuck people around me, take this second hand unfiltered cancer and shove it up your ass, faggots.

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>>379145593
>it relaxes me
Smoking makes you less relaxed by default. Then it gives you back little bits of enjoyment and relaxation every time you smoke. Smoking doesn't "relax" you, it just makes you stressed.

You'd be more relaxed if you weren't smoking at all.

Your defense now is Master Nicotine cucking you, and forcing you to make up dumb excuses to defend it.

>>379148316
You presume too much, you don't know anything about the horrors of life and the endless amount of torture the universe brings on those who can understand it. The human race should stop procreating because we are a blight on the world itself and the sooner we all die off the sooner we can be at peace, it's not moral to bring someone into this world because all that awaits us is death

>>379143371
Why do you eat food that's bad for you? Why don't you exercise? Why do you waste so much time on video games? Why don't you put any effort into your appearance?

You think smoking is the worst thing, but a bunch of bad habits will fuck you over later in life.

>>379148283
there are many other ways of dealing with stress mate

smoking cigs just makes you look weak

>>379148374
>some welfare queen lectures others about manliness and looking stupid
Try working a real full time job instead of wasting taxpayer money idling as useless reserve.

>>379148002
>Your body responding to a chemical substance
>The same as a frustrated nerd afraid to do anything but play video games

Whatever you have to tell yourself retard.

>>379148465
Lots of places such as theme parks, outdoor malls, public parks will not allow you to smoke. So it really just inconveniences your addicted ass

>>379148465
Ow the edge
This is a 18+ website kiddo

>>379148585
>muh vidya games ain't addictive and a danger to my mental health
whatever you have to tell yourself, retard

>>379148283
>>379148283
>>379148283
>Muh Stress
>Muh Stress
>Muh Stress

REMINDER TO CIGARETTE ANONS: NICOTINE MAKES YOU MORE STRESSED BY DEFAULT.

IT PERMANENTLY AGITATES YOU WHEN YOU ARE NOT SMOKING AND RELEASES ENDORPHINS WHEN YOU SMOKE.

YOU WILL BE LESS STRESSED IF YOU

Q U I T S M O K I N G.

>smoke weed
>+10 endurance
>-5 Charisma

>>379148506
Being a long time smoker is scientifically equal to your heart as being morbidly obese. The fatty is gonna die being fat, and you're gonna die smelling and looking like shit.

>>379148487
As an ex-smoker I can say that this applies for every single addiction starting from eating sugary and/or fatty food. Try making a low-carb diet and you'll have more cravings than any smoker on a 22h flight.

>>379148527
>>379148639
You know nothing, so why even bother replying?

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>>379148487
i didn't realize i had an expert on my personal mental health browsing /v/, my bad

>>379143371

They buy into marketing that associates it with being cool or contrarian, when in fact you're just sucking smoke out of a little, white stick. It's something that would just be a mildly irritating idiosyncrasy that some people have if not for the image that came to be associated with it. Then they get addicted. And now it's popularity is fading because of marketing in the opposite direction. Basically, people are just really susceptible to marketing.

>>379148608
>>379148631
I'll be sure to smoke in a few more public places and blow in the faces of passerby in your honor homos.

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>in the middle of a big raid
>everyone's prepped and in the zone, ready to get this thing done
>"hold on for 10 minutes guys smoke break"
If you are this guy, I hope you realize everyone resents you. Nobody wants to cater to your retarded addiction. It's 1000x worse if you lie and say you're going to go grab a drink or something, like we don't know what you're doing every fucking 2 hours on the fucking dot. And it's 10000x worse if you stay in the goddamn chat and try to initiate smalltalk while you loudly puff and spit your fucking tar. YOU ARE INCONVENIENCING EVERYONE YOU FUCKING DUNDERSHIT NOBODY IS IN THIS FUCKING CHAT TO TALK ABOUT OUR DAY, WE WANT TO PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME. FUCK YOU. IF YOU CAN'T GO FOR A FEW HOURS WITHOUT STOPPING -FUCKING EVERYTHING- FOR -FUCKING EVERYBODY- HOW ABOUT YOU FIND. A. NEW. FUCKING. HOBBY. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>379143371
They serve the exact same purpose as fidget spinners, but you look like less of a sperg.

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>when /v/ thinks they understand what stress really is

I'm not condoning smoking, but the most stressful thing you most likely go through is when mommy forgets to pick you up chicken tendies from the store.

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>tfw want to smoke in social situations, but even 2nd hand smoke gives me asthma attacks

>>379148176
No you aren't right. You can choose not to live but you can't choose to be born so if anything your idea is the only thing forcing anything. How bad is your relationship with your parents that you see them as slave owners? If children were slaves then they wouldn't be going to school, your slavery argument may have had some based in the industrial revolution but not anymore. My point still remains if children hated life then the suicide rate would be sky high, a majority of children are the happiest they'll ever be until they have children of their own.

>>379148585
>nicotine addiction worse than vidya addiction
How about you stop playing vidya for a week then. Oh wait we're already on /v/. Try not using the internet for one week on top of no video games.

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>>379144712
>+1 to CHA

>>379143371
I legitimately enjoy the taste and sensation of smoking, but I only smoke two or three cigs a week so I'm not particularly hooked on it like some people

>>379148731
>implying I don't smoke while I play
Eat shit you little faggot, if I want to put everything on hold to take a smoke break, I fucking will. If anything, you're a little bitch for letting people walk all over you and force you to operate on their schedule, you spineless fuck.

>>379148452
I never said we did, but the 90% shouldn't have to suffer just because 10% do.

>>379148639
And alcohol is a long-term depressant.

And eating red meat fucks over your colon

And eating shitty food in general overall negatively impacts your mood

And not exercising or eating well prevents you from having a decent looking body

Do you want to get off your moral high ground or do you believe you do nothing that negatively impacts your health?

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>>379148784
Your disability is stopping you from making a retarded decision, good job asthma

>>379148337
>needing to drink
stay pleb

>>379148806
just because you use something every day doesn't mean you're addicted to it
if you brush your teeth every day are you addicted to toothpaste?

>>379148892
All of life suffers just from being alive

>>379148739
I have a full-time salaried job as a software developer for a Fortune 10 company, have a mother who has been slowly dying for the past 10 years, and debt up to my fucking eyeballs.

Smoking is still retarded. Fuck off.

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>>379141919
I don't remember life being a competition of who lives the longest!

>>379148731
>already plays MMO's like a true untermensch
>doesn't smoke in his room

>>379148784
>don't smoke
>die because bad lungs anyways

>>379148465
damn that's edgy man, can we be friends.
>>379148506
?comparing cookies to cancer sticks

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>>379148959
pretty much

>>379148002
That's not the same you dumb dumb. The addictions you listed make you feel good, they make you feel so good that your normal default mood feels like crap by comparison. Nicotine doesn't make you feel good at all, it essentially does nothing, then later when you're addicted you feel like shit until you take another hit. In other words on a scale of 1-10 of how good you feel

Normal: 5

Doing thing that makes you feel good: 10
Withdrawal from doing thing too much and then stopping: 1

Doing nicotine: 5
Withdrawal from nicotine: 1

In other words smoking is completely pointless with no benefit whatsoever (unlike other drugs that at least make you feel good at first).

>>379148731
>everyone resents you
if this was the case that guy woulda been kicked from your guild and you wouldn't be sitting here bitching about in on /v/
a lot of people don't mind/care dude

>>379148910
Not an argument. Brushing your teeth is necessary, playing vidya and shitposting isn't.

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>>379148024
>chooses a slow and painful death
>pussy

>>379148902
>Do you want to get off your moral high ground or do you believe you do nothing that negatively impacts your health?
I want "muh stress" addict faggots to face the hard facts.

"Stress" is not a defense for smoking. Smoking is not making you less stressed. Smoking is making you MORE stressed.

The fewer people fall for the dumb "smoking stops stress" meme, the fewer people are going to wind up in hospital beds with cancer.

Morals have nothing to do with this. This is about facts. NICOTINE DOES NOT MAKE YOU LESS STRESSED. IT MAKES YOU MORE STRESSED.

>>379148910
it literally means brushing your teeth is a habit... like smoking... or playing video games when you're bored

>>379148726
I'm a former smoker an never once wanted to subject other people to second hand smoke. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>379148981
Having a bad diet gives you just as much chance of being fucked up internally by the time you're 40 as smoking does.

>>379148989
I know that feel, man

>>379148995
As if you poofta are even old enough to smoke.

>>379148943
>not getting the high score
get good

>>379149078
I'm edgy and also a massive twat. Thought I made that obvious.

>>379148995
this
"muh stress" is the dumbest fucking defense for smoking possible, except maybe "i heard it cures cancer"

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>>379149120
>he thinks ANYONE ITT right now is gonna come close to 100

>>379148540
Try brushing your teeth.

>tfw enjoy smoking
>have good self control therefore don't get addicted
>a pack can last me two to three months at a time
fuck all yall

>>379149192
I know someone who made it to The Homes of Nursing NG+ without a walkthrough

>>379148490
>you presume too much
>proceeds assume my life experiences

>>379143523
> and you wagecucks will have to foot the bill when my lungs fail

jeez we're really getting the short end of the stick in that bargain huh

>>379149078
Who gives a fuck about random strangers, what are you, a woman?

>>379149230
I smoke one cigar every other Sunday. A box lasts me a year. Get on my level scrub

>>379148158
>our very existence is a threat to others due to consumption, guess this means every other horrible activity on top of them are perfectly fine and how dare you criticize them!

brb gonna go light some neighborhoods on fire

>>379149190
>implying you aren't samefagging
i really don't get why stress is so hard for you to understand

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>>379149230

>>379149334
Why did you post a picture of yourself?

>>379148005
you aren't their parent until you have them

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DUDE WEED LMAO
now that that's out of our system, what game has the best/most useful weed consumables?

>>379149326
Not him but when you call out samefagging you do it like this you fuckwit
>>379149190
>>379148995

>>379147737
Because dying and death are fucking scary

>force something into the world
>HURR JUST CAUSE YOURSELF POSSIBLE LOADS OF PAIN AND JUMP INTO THE UNKNOWN IF YOU WANT OUT SO BAD

what is this mindset

>>379144712
>+1 CHA

Ciggys fuck up your teeth and make you smell like shit. Not very charismatic.

>>379148374
You know what people think when you start rambling about how smokers are stinky jerkfaces?

They think you're acting like a beta. Normal people don't start throwing around insults because other folks have a small vice. You're only pissed because you don't smoke, and when you air opinions about it you've been told to blow it out your ass enough times that now you're hyper sensitive to it and you've got an axe to grind.

Also;
>ITT; Generation Z faggots who have never even touched a cigarette somehow know the effects and stressors that lead into it.

>>379149032
>Brushing your teeth is necessary
no its not

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>>379149326
>>implying you aren't samefagging
lol get cucked
>i really don't get why stress is so hard for you to understand
M-M-MUH STRESS

I KNOW STUDIES HAVE SHOWN NICOTINE ACTUALLY MAKES YOU MORE STRESSED, B-B-B-B-BUT MUH STRESS

>>379149152
How old are you?

>>379149349
I didn't, I posted a picture of what's growing inside your body

>>379144960
This is what smokers actually believe

>>379149397
samefag
>>379149459
wow can't have faked that
also sick 'studies'

>>379149491
Twenty

>>379148791
>You can choose not to live but you can't choose to be born

No but you CAN choose not to birth. Why are you focusing concepts of responsibility on something that doesn't even have the ability to choose to be brought into this world instead of the entity BRINGING them into the world?

once again, suicide is fucking scary. There are people who hate every other waking moment of their lives but never kill themselves because killing yourself is terrifying

>>379148929
Fucking Christ. Go out side and meet a girl Edgar Allen Poe. Just because you feel sad doesn't mean everyone should not have a kid, life sucks sometimes but that doesn't mean you should waste it feeling sorry for your self.

>>379149515
No, it's clearly you, it's annoying and voicing its opinion like people care.

>>379149292
What are you, Shadow the Edgehog?

>>379149078
Second hand smoke only really applies for people working in smoke-heavy environement like bars used to be. Modern second hand smoke is mainly a meme to push the agenda of healthfags. I used to be a smoker then stopped it because I didn't like it anymore. I still think what's going on today is a witchhunt serving no purpose. While smoking apparently is a 100% surefire way to get cancer, Super AIDS and a receeding hairline all at once nobody gives a fuck about fatty and sugary foods and the people trying to fill their piehole with it.
Several european countries even published studies that smoking is better for our medical system than eating fatty things and even stay healthy. Why? Because more often than not fat people need a bypass for their heart, blood pressure pills or stomach surgeries. Healthy people cost more by living longer than the other groups. Smokers most of the time just die earlier before any treatment can be done.

>>379148374
>I've been in a military service where people experience a lot of down time
Fucking reservists. You are aware no one cares about your opinion? You're just a pussy faggot afraid to actually do a real job.

>>379148726
Enjoy your 400$ fine

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>>379149535
>samefag
You're mentally challenged, aren't you?

>>379149551
>>379149570
You're clearly not intelligent enough to understand how important it is to not have children and to let your life wither away. You're a cancer on the earth.

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This thread is the equivalent of two sides of waterfags.

>>379149042
Oh look I found a smoker already who represents this idea >>379148465 man I didn't even have to leave the thread either or scroll more than 10 posts.

>>379149083
Okay and if I do neither of those things?

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>/v/ thread#94386732492340
>its a rerun

>>379147176
Giving someone a puppy without them asking for it is so fucking rude man.

>>379149643
>calls other people mentally challenged
>spends his time shouting muh stress in /v/ threads

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>>379149535
>wow can't have faked that
>M-M-M-MUH FAKE

>also sick 'studies'
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10540594
>Smokers often report that cigarettes help relieve feelings of stress. However, the stress levels of adult smokers are slightly higher than those of nonsmokers, adolescent smokers report increasing levels of stress as they develop regular patterns of smoking, and smoking cessation leads to reduced stress. Far from acting as an aid for mood control, nicotine dependency seems to exacerbate stress.
http://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g1151
>Smoking cessation is associated with reduced depression, anxiety, and stress and improved positive mood and quality of life compared with continuing to smoke.
>M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-MMMM-M-UHHHHH STRESSSSSSSSS


Reminder that if you use "it helps me relieve stress" as a defense for your smoking addiction, you are a top tier retard who deserves mockery and the cancer you're going to get.

>>379149785
>implying I ever mentioned stress
Again, that's the other guy, you inbred child

>>379149808
Why are you posting false facts? It's like you're backed into a corner and incapable of actually arguing.

>>379149673
>intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor

>>379149552
Enjoy the cancerous growth in your body anon!

>>379149884
Man you are so full of rhetoric it's like I'm talking to a brick wall

>>379149051
Redditors on /v/ give me more stress and cancer than the cigarettes combined.

>>379149605
So much made up bullshit in one post. What do you get out of talking shit?

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>>379149860
>This is your mind on nicotine
>This is how desperate you are to satisfy Master Nicotine pulling the strings in your head

>>379149308
>we can't stop people from killing each other but we can stop them from doing an imaginary action like giving cancer from 2nd hand smoke
>we've now made the world a better place for preventing the imaginary action
>what, did you really think we would stop people from killing each other? Silly goose, we've already prevented the imaginary action

I remember when smoking cigarettes was edgy, but wew lad these anti-smoking fags crusading in this thread

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>>379149860

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>tfw quit smoking a while ago
>wasn't even hard

You just have to realize that you're not even enjoying it anymore and just harming your health and wallet.

>>379149612
Enjoy your second hand cancer.

>>379149927
Supply me with facts stating that 2nd hand smoke is actually dangerous and how many people die from 2nd hand smoke every year.

>>379150012
I didn't make this thread

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>>379144712
>pack a day
>5%

Yeah, think again you fucking retard.
Try 500% (depends on the type of cancer).
This isn't some fucking gamble you can take and be pretty sure it's not going to affect you. Not to mention that it's not just cancer, it's many more things like atherosclerosis and you're gonna get that fucking stroke or heart failure.
Some cancer types literally aren't even found in non-smokers.

God, smokers are so fucking delusional.

Luckily, they're cleaning up their own gene pool because not only does it kill them faster, it also causes impotence.

Good riddance.

>>>379150127
No (you) for you sir

Smokers are pathetic. They know this, for this is why they smoke in the first place.

>>379149547
I'm not talking about giving birth I'm talking about being born. There's no choice to be born. I'm glad I was born like many other people, maybe not on this board but I can assure it's true. I think it's arrogant to tell people trying their hardest so that their kids have a nice life that they had done a bad thing

>he fell for the nicotine jew
How pathetic and weak willed do you actually have to be?

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>>379148206
I've tried to bring it up before, but I get the response you'd expect.
>"I've heard all this before. I know it's bad for me, but the smoking is not causing those problems, I'm just naturally skinny and out of shape. It pisses me off that you would bring this up. It's none of your business."

I can't really argue with that, he should be able to do what he wants with his body. But it's a sort of willful ignorance of his declining health that makes me feel like I should do something.

>>379150127
And then there's always this faggot. In every single thread. Did your dad skullfuck you when you where a baby? I can't see any other way how a person can turn out this gay and retarded.

>>379150127
which chad blew smoke in your beta face dude

>>379148352
im just saying if you think how skinny a person is is the weakest sign of their health you're probably fat

>>379143371
To get laid

>all girls hated me, zero friends etc
>start smoking and drinking
>every girl wants to fuck me now and I have a ton of friends

>>379150192
>as he posts on /v/, insulting random people anonymously

The arguments in this thread are fucking pointless because neither side understands where the other is coming from, so it makes no fucking sense.

People that have NEVER smoked have likely never done so because they have been told how bad it was from a young age, and have internalized all of that negative stuff, and it upsets them to see that other people exist who don't share they're reservations.

People who DO smoke no it isn't some kind of evil demonic act that isn't really that bad, but at the same time they only feel that way because they pretty much haven't had the restriction drilled into their brain over the course of their childhoods.

The measured, true response is somewhere in the middle. Smoking isn't all that fucking bad if it's not a major habit, and it's not even that unhealthy if you only smoke occasionally. On the other hands, it's extremely addictive and even if you aren't in the health danger zone, you are likely to get there eventually.

I'd say that the people who are against smoking are correct, but for cunty, ignorant reasons, and the people who do smoke are wrong, however they actually know what they're dealing with but are incentivized to be all defensive about it because they don't want to admit they lack the strength to avoid having their habit develop into something that is actually a major issue.

One side has the appropriate understanding of the dangers, and the other side has the appropriate understanding of what cigarettes actually accomplish for them without blinders (Except for the fact that they won't admit to the dangers the other side cares so much about.).

It's ridiculous.

The measured answer is that it's probably fine to smoke every once in awhile socially so long as it doesn't develop into a lifestyle. The true patricians choice is to avoid smoking or at the very least quit smoking when you graduate for college because it's bad for you, but also not judge other people like a cunt if they decide they like it.

>>379150127
That mean Chad was a smoker, wasn't he.

>>379150487
You're being too reasonable. Pick an extreme and argue for it.

THIS JUST IN.

PEOPLE DO UNHEALTHY THINGS BECAUSE PERCEPTIVELY FEELS GOOD.

MORE NEWS AT 11.

>>379150487
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/59/Argument-to-Moderation

>>379150487
You should really be arguing for non existence so we never have to deal with the difficulty of life
>>379150613
>>379150617
>>379150638

>>379150487
Suck a cock fenceshitter

>>379150613
see >>379150638
>>379150617
Dude let's do krokodil because it feels good lmao

>They don't know the pleasure of smoking a cigarette in your balcony at night after a long day.

>>379150454
>everyone on /v/ is a loser like me
Wew.

>>379150192
>Smokers are pathetic.
Yeah. All these great scientists, artists, generals, statesmen who smoked and still smoke are pathetic.

Compared to a NEET dispensing his pearls of wisdom on 4chan like he's got a resume longer than the Amazon river.

>>379150487
I've smoked for six years and quit recently. Smoking doesn't accomplish anything, you're literally just paying for cancer sticks, it's fucking stupid. If you want to kill yourself there's better ways.

>>379150487
>the solution to an argument has to be a compromise

What about the following scenario.
Hitler: I want to kill all the jews.
Churchill: I want you to kill no jews at all.
You: Okay you guys why don't we kill half the jews?

>>379150708
You wouldn't be this defensive if it weren't true, tobaccuck.

>>379150487
>it's probably fine to smoke every once in awhile socially so long as it doesn't develop into a lifestyle.

Well no shit, this is true for nearly all things in life. The problem is that due to the highly addictive nature of nicotine when it comes to smoking you're either fully addicted or not doing it at all. I'm not saying moderate smokers don't exist, just that they're really fucking rare. I don't know a single one personally.

>>379150762
Why don't we all kill ourselves right now?
I mean we'll all die anyway at some point, aren't we? Why putting ourselves through 80+ years of misery and pain?

>>379150697
i'm not the one insulting people to make up for being a bitch irl?

>>379143628
Why go home to masturbate?

>Got tonsils removed last week
>Haven't had a cig since
>Read this thread and crave one like a mother fucker

Thanks /v/

>>379150884
what do you consider moderate?
one a day? twice a fortnight?

Everyone's gotta have one vice or another. Smoking can be comforting, as many rituals are. There's also a social aspect to it. I don't smoke, but I understand fully why some people do.

>>379150907
It seems the cancer has moved to the area of your brain that governs language.

>>379150887
My life is pretty good. Why would I want to kill myself?

>>379150708
Most of the great scientists, artists, generals, and statesmen also believe in god. QED.

>>379150693
>they don't know the pleasure of meeting a mate at the park late at night after a long day of work and having a couple smokes and talking banter about the lads

>>379150979
No set frequency, someone who doesn't HAVE to smoke, just a guy that smokes when he feels like it.

>>379151016
Maybe your life will get shittier in 5 years. Why wait?

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>>379150127
>links my post
>not even a smoker
>just sick of seeing the same le smoker thread since 2008

>>379151078
i don't have to smoke
i've been able to go a week straight without them multiple times before
I just feel like having two a day since they are always in my bag

>>379151003
I have no vices, degenerate. I am pure.
Now please excuse me.
*switches tabs to futa loli rape thread*

>>379150808
>tried to start smoking once
>hated the taste

Second hand smoke is a meme if you live in a big city. Take a jog downtown and you've already shaved 1 month off your lifespan.

Casual cigarettes are pleb tier. I enjoy a good cigar maybe once or twice a month and it feels amazing.

>>379151003
You fully understand why they do because they themselves don't fully understand what it's doing to them.

>>379151102
I'll be fine, thanks.

>>379151032
>scientists
Maybe from the 16th century where not believing in God equalled death
>artists
lolno unless you're counting those music "artists" praising God at the Grammy's
>generals
Who gives a shit
>politicians
The only higher politicians in the Western world who are really really religious are republican nutcases from SLC or some creationists from the Bible Belt

>>379151078
Every addict in the world thinks they're what you just described lmao

Addiction makes you think it's all your choice. You think it's your friends and family trying to tell you how to live your life, when in reality you already have your drug of choice making your life its bitch and they're just trying to help you out of it.

>>379150172
Good fucking job

i'm glad i can't find those green mint cigarettes or the pink ones with sugar paper i've seen from online american stores in australia otherwise i'd probably be a huge fag and buy a bunch

>>379143386
Except in Sweden where female smokers are the majority

>>379151291
man you're sure making want to choose to smoke a ciggie poo

>>379151032
Of course. They wouldn't be great men if they didn't believe in god.

>>379151275
The only scientists and artists who don't believe in god are the retarded hacks like dawkins, black science guy and the kind of painters that shits on a canvas and calls it a work of art.

>>379151436
Good. : )

>>379150763
>>379150638
He is not using moderation as an argument you stupid fucks, it's a logical result of actual arguments. Stop using buzzwords to justify your edgy retarded beliefs.

>>379150961
t. diogenes
>>379151003
>muh stress
refer to >>379149808
>>379149808
>>379149808
>>379149808
>>379149808

>>379147469
Cigars are literally smelly turds for old men or teenagers in a casino for the first time. Nothing classy about them.

>>379150487
The important thing is you found a way to feel superior to both sides.

>>379151518
what if im trying to get cancer so i can die, does that excuse my bad ass habit?

>Use cigarette in game
>No negative effects
>You can dip your smokes in medicines to get a slow sustained release into your body
>Dip a pack in healing drugs and smoking them fixes your wounds

>>379143386
My mom is a cigarette addict tho

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>>379141919
>use cigarette in GTAV
>literally drains your soul and you die if you smoke for a minute or so

>>379150164
>Luckily, they're cleaning up their own gene pool because not only does it kill them faster, it also causes impotence.
Not really.
Smokers are generally pretty stupid so they don't use contraceptives anyway so while they're young and still able to procreate they'll have more stupid kids and those kids are more likely to pick up smoking.
I wish my country would just ban smoking but no apparently fuck people.

>>379151582
I fucking love ss13

>>379151573
you should be using helium, it's quicker, it's painless, and you won't take up a hospital bed when you have cancer

>>379151462
Name a few religiously devoted artists and scientists right now having an active career.

My mummy told me to never ever smoke and I swore to her I wouldn't! the thread

>>379151702
You're making a semi-good point. I rescind my point you greentexted but I don't accept your counter-explanation because I doubt there's any hard data for that.

>>379151790
my parents were (that's right, were) smokers who never said any such thing, but nice try

>>379143371
lack of self control
inability to deal with peer pressure
some think it makes them look cool
medical purposes

>>379147372
No it doesn't. Cigarettefags just look stupid for giving themselves cancer.

Who in here likes menthol?

>>379151968
winfield blue optimum crush represent
that's the popular cig here at least

>>379150697
>everyone on /v/ is a loser like me
No indeed. It's mostly just you.

>>379152072
marlboro nxt is my shit

>>379151968
Nah Menthol doesn't have enough cancer. I like winnie reds for the extra cancer