smash splash its almost over take it off let us drown

puff sucks

>>379141409
hbox sucks

>>379141360
Why the fuck are these threads just for smash n splash and not also for BoBC?

Does anyone care anymore?

I'm just watching to hopefully see Leffen cuck Puff

leffen sucks

First for our guy leffen

>>379141409
>t. Hbox

>>379141437
if he sucks then why's he winning?

>>379141445
its not nigger

you can talk about it here too

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>>379141409
>>379141437
>>379141450
>>379141456
Im so fucking happy all you faggots are getting rustled over hbox winning. Shows the massive ignorance of /v/.

Jigglypuff is a shit character, so shit that there is literally L I T E R A L L Y only one guy who can get to top 8.

Hbox SINGLE HANDEDLY flipped the fox puff matchup on his own, its still widely regarded by top pros to be 70%-30% in favor of fox. Seeing Hbox weave in and out instant death combos at 30% is a skill only few can even fathom. His character can die from one upthrow upair while he has to combo the spacies into fucking oblivion with 50 bairs or a risky rest combo that if he misses he INSTANT LOSES A STOCK.

Hbox is the hero we need, the one who consistently got out-tier'd for his entire life, but he refused to switch to 20XX he fucking pioneered his own character so much to a point that NONE OF THE GODS can replicate it and they all play top tiers pretty consistent except puff.

He fucking won it all, He beat his demons in life when the odds AND fans were always stacked against him. /v/ hates him because they will never craft their own negatives lives into success like him

>>379141476
Then put it in the OP dumbass

Who besides me still thinks Marth is the best character in Melee?

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M2k should really drop Peach vs ICs forever.

>>379141473
cause he's camping like a baby

>>379141502
Leffen probably thinks that.

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still looking for ppmd, armada, and m2k feet

especially m2k

plus if he's rocking a moustache

>>379141492
>Jigglypuff is a shit character

>Best aerial play in the game
>Best off-stage game
>Kills almost every top tier off an up throw with minimal %
>Meaty as fuck aerials with great range
>Best keep away game by virtue of having the best mobility

>But she has low KO threshold so she's bad

You're the same type of nigga who screams "muh health" when Yun is in a Street Fighter game and absolutely tools on people. Jigglypuff is ridiculously overpowered and the only reason she doesn't see more play is because nobody's dropping 15 years of muscle memory to pick up something new

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>hate fox
>complain about fox
>camp the ledge vs Fox players
>play for the W
>wonder why people don't like him

>>379141501
please understand that i'm mentally drained from the melee i've watched today

>2-0
Im so fucking happy all you faggots are getting rustled over hbox winning. Shows the massive ignorance of /v/.

Jigglypuff is a shit character, so shit that there is literally L I T E R A L L Y only one guy who can get to top 8.

Hbox SINGLE HANDEDLY flipped the fox puff matchup on his own, its still widely regarded by top pros to be 70%-30% in favor of fox. Seeing Hbox weave in and out instant death combos at 30% is a skill only few can even fathom. His character can die from one upthrow upair while he has to combo the spacies into fucking oblivion with 50 bairs or a risky rest combo that if he misses he INSTANT LOSES A STOCK.

Hbox is the hero we need, the one who consistently got out-tier'd for his entire life, but he refused to switch to 20XX he fucking pioneered his own character so much to a point that NONE OF THE GODS can replicate it and they all play top tiers pretty consistent except puff.

He fucking won it all, He beat his demons in life when the odds AND fans were always stacked against him. /v/ hates him because they will never craft their own negatives lives into success like him

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>hbox gets on ledge
>leffen shoots lasers
>hbox looks annoyed and bored

>>379141492
>Jigglypuff is a shit character

Wrong. Small hitbox + floaty + instant kill move + HUGE disjointed hitboxes make Jigglypuff very good.

>so shit that there is literally L I T E R A L L Y only one guy who can get to top 8.

No one else wants to play Puff. Literally

>>379141515
Wow why doesn't anyone else do it then if it can win you tournaments...really makes you think.

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SWEDEKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

IKEA IN FLAMES

ANY LAST WORDS?

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>Melee is an exciting and competitive game

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>>379141573

>fat attentionwhoring beaner wins sm4sh
>fat attentionwhoring beaner wins melee

pottery

>>379141492
>Jigglypuff is a shit character,
Stopped reading.

Is hbox gonna break the CRT this time?

>>379141609
not everyones a faggot

alright I'm gonna go play Tekken

see you guys next week

>>379141673
Chudat isn't fat though

>>379141573
>>379141543
>>379141676

>/r/smashbros

>>379141437
>refuses to friendlies with anyone so they don't learn his playstyle

What a fag

>Both games are being played on Stadium right now

WE 4TH DIMENSIONS NOW

>>379141543
and no one understands what Hungrybox does either. so it's hard to make tutorials and help up and coming Jigglypuff players git gud.

why does leffen's face twitch so much more than everyone else

Leffen getting 3-0'd would be really funny.
Then again, watching hbox win is awful.
I have mixed feelings.

>>379141690
wow man that makes so much sense. That must be why everyone else plays fox.

It all makes sense now.

Both Melee tournaments result in the God camping out the other guy

Is this the true extent of Melee?

>>379141728
>playing stadium 2 while watching
WAHT TTHE Fe

inb4 rest

please, Hbox stop Leffen from winning this.

>Leffen still has to win on Dreamland versus HungryBox

I don't think Leffen can do it sadly

>>379141764
Passion

>>379141781
You seem frustrated, facts aren't supposed to hurt your feelings.

iif leffen wins this one I'm going to bed

>>379141546
>play for the W

Yah, what the fuck is that shit.

>has to win on dreamland twice
At least he's Fox one of the few characters that can

>>379141764
cocaine

is this set 2?

WAKE ME UP

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>go from Royal Flush, the most hype tournament in a long time, to this

>>379141873
I haven't played melee in years.

chu v m2k last stock game 5

>>379141492
>people still falling for this bait after 5 threads

wew lad

>plup isn't playing luigi in finals
why live?

>>379141860
Yeah it's pretty much over.

Shame to see HBox win again though.

>Shoutouts to Reddit
I thought HMW was /ourguy/

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>>379141661
>there are people on this site right now who want Hbox to win

>>379141941
our regularly scheduled program

M2K BTFO by our /guy/

that's us! wobbles is talking about us!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Chu 3-2 M2K YAYUZZ

YAYUHZ

/ourguy/ takes over m2k

>>379142010
Winners or losers?

>>379141942
What does that have to do with anything?

its over for leffen

>>379141721
i played friendlies with him once when he went a west coast regional

he was at a 2-man setup sandbagging with G&W against some guy so I hopped on. He went G&W against me and I ended up winning with my main because I didn't want to waste friendlies against someone of his level. He got up mid-game of me against the other guy and said he had a match to play (I don't think he was set up to play) and fistbumped the other guy with a ggs and ignored me

lol

Get fucked, Leffen!

THAT RAW ASS REST

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>chudat in winner's side GF

i LITERALLY screamed "NOOOOOOOO"

>>379142038
WFs

>>379141971
They just want to escalate the butthurt.

Most hilarious ending of all time

>>379142041
How upset are you right now?

GODBOX

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LETS GO CHU!

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wtf I missed it

>twitch chat using ree now

time to officially kill myself nothing is sacred

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GET FUUUUUUUUCKED, LEFFEN

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FUCK HBOX

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>HBox wins again

So fun.

so, how did him hit that last rest?
it was so fast.

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>puff and ICs dominating

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Is it time to say "Melee is dying" again?

>>379142121
4chan is normiehole now, you know that, right? try one of the other chans

The Mario vs Diddy final back at Smash 4 was more entertaining than this

>>379142121
twitch chat is alright. ur good until reddit starts upvoting reeee

oh fuck off crowd where's the USA chant to trigger ESAM that's the one thing I could have taken away from hbox winning

>>379142121
That shit was never sacred anyway, fuck off

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It was fun while it lasted

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>leffen lost

>crowd so apathetic about hbox they aren't even giving him a USA chant vs leffen

>>379142135
I want to skullfuck Zero!

Hbox on the mic calling out Nintendo.

Fuck yeah, I love this man

>>379142179
Leffen is more USA than hbox

HECKIN HECK

>island/tiki theme
>doesn't even take place in a tropical place
fuck whoever runs this tournament

Fucking HBox.

>>379141360
hbox please stop

Don't worry guys /ourguy/ Chu is taking it anyway, nevermind the swedish fuccboi.

>hbox going off on this mic
i am dead

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There goes his sponsor.

Thank you, Leffen, for at least making Grand Finals exciting.

>>379142179
ESAM actually cares about USA chants?

What a cuck

Damn ok Hbox going in on esports faggots and nintendo

this is fucking hilarious

This is great. Can't wait to see the backlash that follows.

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>Both Melee and Smash 4 were won at Smash N Splash by obese spics that play obnoxiously campy characters that no one likes

What did they mean by this?

he does have a point

>>379142175


twitch chat is reddit and so is 4chan

>>379142135
>Says fuck
>Get on his soapbox and starts talking about the good ol days and how "we're not a friendly e-sports community" Homeless box when?

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SOMEBODY TAKE THE MIC
TAKE IT

Holy shit hbox get off the fucking stage

Hbox going INNN

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>how that nigger tried to take the mic from hbox

>hbox saying fuck to the esports/pg-13 mentality

ok, thats cool.

HBOX STOP HAHAHAHAHA

Hbox sperging out on the mic

It's not just a video game, IT"S A LIFESTYLE!!!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/MVG_Mew2King/status/871604438720315392

Jesus Christ Hbox it's just fucking Smash n Splash

Who /turned off stream right after hbox won/ here?

>this whole speech
So this is what Hfags wanted to happen

>had to write a pandering speech just to get people to chant for him
>chant ends after 5 seconds

can't tell if based or cringe

>>379142279
>>379142286
What did he say? I switched stream

>>379142279
Literally the only guy in smash to not suck nintendo's dick

He's literally my guy now.

Ai lamo

wtf i love hbox now

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>we're grassroots so we should swear a lot to make a point!

Fuck off you Jigglypuff asshole.

>Chu beat M2K
>hbox beat leffen
>Hboxs shitty speech
Fuck melee

>A lifestyle

kek

>>379142324
there it is

Seriously, fuck nintendo and fuck this esports bullshit.

What did he say
Also bracket resets need to be abolished

>>379142326
missed best part

>>379141543
A big part of it is that Fox is by far the most important character to have a good matchup against and its by far her worst matchup, to the point where people see any random fox killing with a uair off a stray grab at low percent, or jab upsmash etc and the character just looks like trash because its way easier to learn to play fox against puff than puff against fox.
But the thing is, being nearly un-edgeguard-able, floaty as fuck so combos are only possible at very specific percents, ridiculously safe spacing with bair spam and platform camping, being able to crouch under half the cast's grab, and Dreamland's blast zones she's actually really hard to kill played optimally for pretty much everyone but Fox because Fox has all the right tools that everyone else lacks. So if you get good at the fox matchup and are willing to play optimally, she's one of the best characters in the game. That's just hard as fuck, evidenced by the fact that the second best buff in the world is fucking Abu

>>379142320
nah, it's a life-STYLE

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>>379142324

>>379142324
hahahahahahaha
nothing makes me happier than wobbling butthurt

>person wins against Hbox on a fair stage
>he gets to pick Dreamland for the next match
lol

>>379142338
based i guess, the "much pg-13 cant say fuck" thing is retarded.

I can respect Hbox for saying fuck esports but the rest of that speech was too much, especially the lifestyle shit.

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>>379142324
>still crying over wobbling in 2017

>>379142324
STAY MAD

>>379141360
fuck hbox is killing this game even more with that shit he said

>>379142298
never ever since he has a real degree

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lol

>>379142345
oh so you don't know anything about the community and the players

sounds like an hbox fan alright

>>379142324
>complaining about wobbling of all things

kek

It's pathetically easy to play around

>>379142140
hbox pressured him with an attack, leffen crouch canceled it since he was low percent and buffered a roll into center stage where people feel safer, probably thinking hbox would continue pressure

hbox yomi'd him with a microspaced walk forward and read-reacted to rest him

>>379142382
preach, nigga(er)

>>379142338
He basically said fuck nintendo like 3 times and that he loves the smash comunity, pretty great desu

>>379142442
lol

Is HBox autistic or something?

>>379142420
well, he is not wrong, you kinda have to live this shit to get to this level.

I'm sorry Hbox I just can't like you no matter how hard you try

>>379142279
Of course he can't do it without being a total attention whore though making it about himself. Reddit meltdown incoming over this lel

>>379142341
He said fuck twice and the black guy said "now we gotta nuke the VODs because you dropped the f-bomb" and hbox went off yelling about how we started from the bottom with no help and nintendo doesn't give a shit about us so who cares about swearing

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hbox is such a fucking faggot while he plays but when he's off calling nintendo a bunch of assholes and esports dumb as hell I can't help but agree with him

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truly melee players are the last bastion of video game love against corporatist cock slobbering globalist shills

while fgcucks abandon their games in favor of corporate shilled games that have less and less depth and are more and more casualized melee remains for the TRVE ALPHA ARYAN MALE GAMER

grassroots esoteric fashy ludicism WHEN

Hbox is a cancer, people only like him to be contrarian. Just like how they claim to like being lonely virgins. Juan, like his followers, poisons the community. More tourneys like this will spell death for the game. But honestly, with the state of the community, with people defending an unfunny memer just for stooping to a level lower than any other pro player, I invite the collapse.

>>379142493
normie as fuck, my friend

>>379142473
>>379142416
I posted before he went off on Ninty, fuck them desu

>>379142504
I guess this is why melee doesn't get sponsors

>>379142326
me, from the sounds of it im glad i did

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Okay I can't be mad at hbox after that.
But that whole "This is a lifestyle" shit was a bit too much

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>>379142459
thank you, melee-man

>>379142445
Ok.

>>379142442
I unironically agree 100%, chudat is a hack

>>379142559
But it worked?

>>379142493
no

Did anyone get a clip of his speech?

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>>379142324

>>379142529
Nintendo is an easy target. He's doing it just to get people like you on his side.

>>379142542
You need to go back.

>>379142493
he makes himself whatever garners him /v/eddit sympathy

what's worse is that people fall for it

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>>379142559
I don't know if leffen's congratulations are sincere, or he's being a passive aggressive asshole and not taking the L

He's right, though.

Nintendo really is out of touch with their fans these days, not just with Smash but with a fair share of their franchises. Federation Force and Color Splash come to mind.

>stayed up til 2am to watch hbox plank and give a cringey ass speech
At least leff did well.

>>379142559
classic passive aggressive leff

>>379142620
This

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>>379142425

>>379142324
>implying only one person in a match can do this and not both

>>379142638
it's leffen.

its both.

>>379142638
it's both. He accepts his loss but thinks hbox is a faggot still

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>Leffen already bitching about ledge camping and mid set coaching
>Even when he had Duck coaching him

>people are seriously falling for the desperate hbox speech

>>379142638
holy shit he just cannot take the loss

>>379142531
this, but literally unironically

grassroots melee will continue to play this game well into 2020s while SF players will continue to eat up whatever casualized garbo capcom throws at them

>>379142638
>hate Hbox
>love Leffen's salty twitter rants that he deletes the next day
wtf I love hbox now???

>>379142638
>no mid set coaching
What? Why is that even important?

>>379142695
He can use all of the rules to his advantage even if he doesn't agree with them you dingaling, its the same thing as whining about notches

>Team Liquid does not affiliate with Hungrybox nor does his statements reflect our brand. Team Liquid will be discussing contract renegotiations within a few days.

HOLY SHIT

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>>379142606
>complaining about shit that works in the game
Do you cry about shine? Marth's disjoint? Chaingrabs? Etc. Stop complaining.

"I can say whatever the damn hell I want."

No you can't. If the people in charge of the event asked you not to, you can't.

>>379142613
It didn't, though. Every time he did it, Leffen fucked up because he played it right.

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>>379142559
>but ya

>>379142638
it's both, he's good at the ambigious 4chan diction that goes over most ledditors heads with its option coverage

>>379142791
b8

>All you have to do to win back the crowd is go "Fuck Nintendo"

Sometimes I forget Melee is populated by children and impressionable teens.

>>379142826
>fucked up
*fucked him

>>379142795
Uhh no dude I only complain about wobbling and rests because they always beat my favorite players :(

>>379142791
cool story

fuck yeah, Hbox interview

>>379142795
t. Ice Climbers main

Why do you play as a degenerate character?

>>379142791
making fake tweets isn't even hard anon, you should try harder next time

>>379142791
Source?

>>379142620
It's going to get nuked lmao

>>379142863
It's possible.
Especially since these things are so heavily regulated

>>379142823
>No you can't. If the people in charge of the event asked you not to, you can't.
There's a big difference between "can't" and "not allowed to".

>>379142752
they're literally useless i have no idea what his problem is with them

why does hbox think Nintendo would support a 15 year old game played by adults? They need to cater to young people and new titles, there's no profit in melee.

>>379142638
Leffen is a bitch but I do think ledge grab limit should be a thing

>>379142791
Obviously fake
Why would Liquid even care about what he said? There's no money in smash and the FGC in general

I CAN DO ANYTHING AND NOBODY CAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO

FUCK NINTENDO!

>>379142865
It's sad how much Hbox wants the community to like him. Just fucking desperate

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>>379142938
I actually main Sheik but I have a dedicated nice Peach for dealing with ICs.
They're barely viable, bruh.

>>379142638
I bet leffen made crass passive agressive comments every time his mom made him do something

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>I fucked up my strategy
>On purpose
>As a joke

>>379142638
Ledge grab limit in brawl only matter when it went to timeout, which none of the ones they played did.

Leffen is salty AS FUCK.

>>379142559
>please run in and get killed
Wasting time is literally a positive when you're in the lead. It puts the time out in play and that changes the matchup fundamentally.

>>379143043
I mean it's better than being a toxic fuck like he used to be or an attention whore like HBox.

>>379142791
Link to source now you lying faggit. Plus his sponsor would love this. Bad publicity is still publicity.

>fuck esports he says while wearing the shirt of his sponsor, probably the most bootlicking rulefag esports esports organization to ever exist

>>379142795
there are also freeze glitches that work in the game that any ICs can execute after 10 minutes of practice yet those are rightfully banned

a discussion on wobbling is not a bad thing but I doubt most people here are qualified with a capacity to argue for it either way

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which is worse, reddit sucking hbox's dick or this thread for trying to be so contrarian and edgy that it's basically also reddit

>>379143061
What if I told you...
I need to take 300% over 5 minutes to unlock my mind reading powers...

>>379142947
>>379142665
PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE RECORDED IT. I MISSED IT

>>379143007
This
I do agree with him on language though. It's really annoying when commentators can't say "fuck" or "got raped" or "holy shit" because they have to cater to autists apparently.

>The strategy to win in melee is "I was just pretending to be retarded"

>>379142752

that's the one thing he's right to complain about

Fuck hungrybox

If you even watched Chu vs M2K, it's clear that ICs need wobbling. They don't have the neutral to compete.

>>379143106
It's not about winning with it. If there were an lgl then hbox can't plank at all.

>>379143202
well, it worked

>>379142559
At a certain point in puff v. fox matchups it seems like there's almost no point in worrying about the % racked up by a few lasers. That up smash is going to send you to the moon whether at 40 or 100.

Passed out shortly after Shroomed/Plup. What happened?

>>379143212
How so?

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>>379143106
Who wouldn't be salty?
Hbox literally turned his faggotry up to smash for glory levels of "that kid"
There's a fine line between doing what it takes to win and being a huge faggot
>>379143128
Link to source?
Have you never seen what happens to pros when they fuck up like that at national tournaments?
It's kind of the same deal.

>>379143247
>If there were an lgl then hbox can't plank at all

Maybe read my post next time. Brawl had a much bigger ledge stalling problem with Metaknight and the limit only applied when the game went to time. Assuming it'd work the same way in melee, which I wouldn't see why not since its not as a big a problem, a limit literally wouldn't matter.

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>we splashed and then we sma-

what did he mean by this?

>>379143194
cmon they got raped is a little bit much

>>379143305
hbox killed melee, but that's okay because he said fuck nintendo so now i like him

>>379143247
How the fuck would they expect players to keep track of a ledge grab limit

>>379143241
Then play a different character. I don't mind wobbling myself, but watching top players lose stocks while I watch the other player tap the a button 80 times, it's pretty annoying. Plus, most ice climbers players I know are all fat retards that wobble 4 straight stocks and have fully decaled controllers. So I tend to hate them.

>>379143307
>There's a fine line between doing what it takes to win and being a huge faggot
He did exactly what he needed to win, faggot. It's a tournament with thousands on the line. Leave your "muh honor" at the door.

>>379143305
HBox won against Leffen then went into a rant about esports, Nintendo and how he loves the Smash Community.

what was peak viewership?

>Its about everyone man
Give this faggot an emmy already so he can shut the fuck up.

>>379143360
kill yourself

>>379143305
HBox making Grand Finals a bore again.
But he gave the middle finger to Nintendo so suddenly he's based.

>>379143360
yeah, i agree. It's an immature hobby but respect should still be a little important, even in a room full of faggots and children.

>>379143375
Hey don't talk shit about decaled controllers, they're nice.

>>379143367
Melee displays how many times a player grabs ledge in the results screen.

>>379143307
Its fucking melee bruh. The only esports that matter in the long term are LoL and CSGO. Everything else literally has paltry amounts of money.

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>>379143437
>suddenly

>>379143335
Maybe read my post next time. It's not about going to time and winning via lgl. It's that the POSSIBILITY EXISTS, therefore hbox can't risk planking too much in case of timeout.

>>379143360
That's just classic shit talk in sports and esports. People say it all the time. I don't want people censoring themselves because somebody will feel uncomfortable.

>>379143449
I think I'd have a better opinion of them if I saw them used by somebody who isn't a day IC main

>>379143375
Why should they? The character isn't nearly strong enough to warrant banning anything besides infinite stall. It's clear time and time again. If the way they can win is through breaking through a neutral of people who have no intention to fight, then they should be allowed to do so.

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>>379143462
dota says "hi"

>>379143486
HBox please go back to your interview.

>>379143194
The people who can't filter themselves are the autistic ones by definition.

>>379142686
>He accepts his loss
Wrong. That comment is dripping in salt.
>>379143365
>>379143406
I was more so asking for a summary of the rest of the bracket. I'm pretty sure I missed at least 3 matches. I guess I can expect vods tomorrow.

>>379143241
If I had the power, I'd remove wobbling but buff handoffs massively.
Wobbles when he's on his game was peak Icies. Everyone should have had to play like that.

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it was a meme tourney, so im not even mad, but if we get something like this at evo or big house im going to start losing faith in maylay

is mang0 drunk already?

>>379143556
make sure to renew your sub to mango before you kill yourself redditor

>>379143534
I don't know about esports, but I can't recall an instance where anyone said "get raped" in sports in interviews/casting.

did leffen tweet some shit about hax? out of the loop

>>379143545
how

>>379143609
>Already
It's 1am and he got knockout out hours ago

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>>379143612
>Deflecting
lmao I hit a nerve, huh?

>>379143612
>hbox
>not reddit incarnate
wake up man. Mango invites a lot more interesting of a community than the people hbox panders to, even if they're both insufferable.

>>379143591
I'd be okay with that. They need the big punish game, even if it got harder, them being able to 0-death like they do is almost necessary.

>>379143545
My point still stands though. Only 3 fucking games actually matter in esports and two are extremely similar to each other.

>>379143651
Valve adds money to the prize pool if you buy hats.

>>379143612
how is hbox not mr reddit?

did someone record the hrant?

>>379143545
If people cared about doto why does PPD have less followers than Armada?

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Basedbox desu

Bill Trinen btfo

>>379143649
leffen tries to ignore hax, so I doubt it

>>379143726
Dota League and CSGO?

>>379142559
>>379142638
After the interview, it actually seems that he is wayy more mad at the rules than Hbox

>>379143726
Sfv with Capcom cup?

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>>379143726
I agree with you that that's the trinity. Just thought it was weird you left us out.

>>379143767
Because dota is a boring game to stream.

Jesus the cringe when he said it was a lifestyle

Though, honestly, I do not understand why they care about cursing.

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>Mango died so Leffen could die so Hbox could give that dramatic speech
wew

so where's the battle of bbc thread....

>>379143835
>muh esports for normies

they expect 5 year olds to watch this or something

>>379143612
But HBox is also reddit, Anon.

>>379143835
he quit his engineering job to play, so it definitely is for him

>>379143630
Talking about actual sports, where it's said all the time. Football players don't censor themselves on the field. Smash shouldn't either. If you're offended by people saying mean words I'm not sure how you function in day to day life.

>>379143579
>Playing game, filtered
"Oh hot diggy dog! That shot must have just clipped the edge of my bounding box because it sure as heck didn't look like it was on me!"
>Playing game, unfiltered
"Fuck you faggot.

Filtered tries too hard, unfiltered provides many keks

>Leffen STILL bitching about no ledge limits and blaming it on TOs
How can one man be so salty

>>379143835
dude, leave me alone. I'll pursue full-time melee as my career (even though a lot of top melee players graduated from uni and have their BA)

>>379143862
dead along with every other viewer from boredom. wobbling is a cancer on melee

>>379143891
He's right though, it's still cringey as fuck to imply Melee, a video game, is 'not a video game'

>>379143545
I feel that DotA isn't as big as CSGO and League, but the prize pool is huge because Valve directs % of hat sales to it which inflates numbers.

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>we came up from the gutter without the help of anyone
>says while wearing a jersey plastered with sponsors
>on a stream that's plastered by sponsors

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>m2k suicide live on stream if he loses GFs

>>379143839
Mango died so leff could stop being a fucking emo about not placing well. Leff showed he can beat anyone, but not consistently as we just saw.

>>379143901
how do they apply a ledge limit?

Should there also be a laser limit?

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>>379143726
the only reason fighting games and competitive childrens party games dont make as much money is because you cant sell shit for them. With PC games you can sell keyboards, mics, hardware and that's where the market is for the sponsors. With melee you have what, decades old CRTs and gamecube controllers? It's just not that lucrative and even if stuff like evo is getting 200K views and espn the money is just never going to be there.

>>379141609

People don't do it because they get shit talked and called a faggot at locals until they learn not to.

Hbox just doesn't care about honor or actual skill. He literally only cares about winning.

which is a good thing.

>>379143961
I wish he'd just forfeit.

>>379143649
posted logs where hax said that leffen's bullying gave him ptsd

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wew lad

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On the topic of big esports are you guys ready for this burning shit heap of a cash grab to set the entire industry back 5 years?

>>379143897
>Talking about actual sports, where it's said all the time.
Me too. Point me to an interview or cast where people openly say "he got raped".

>shutouts to propriety damage

Welp, woobles is a better commentator than i expected.

>>379143941
We're arguing semantics here. Most people consider video games to just be something you do when you're bored. Melee, to some people, is their life.

>>379143976
t. newfag
the results screen tells you how many times you grabbed the ledge, so if it goes to timeout you just make sure neither player exceeded the limit

>>379144029
>p-please stop bullying me mango-san

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>>379143952
The worst part about this is that people cheered for a man talking shit about the establishment, while wearing a jersey plastered with sponsors on it.

Does the melee community just have no self-awareness or something?

>>379143927
I mean that shit doesn't even matter when all they do anyway is travel around the U.S. playing smash all the time

>>379143952
he was talking about nintendo.

>>379143927
Most top 100 are Neets or have played for soo long that having a part time job and melee is possible. Melee is too time consuming to consider uni.

>>379144029
OTP

>>379144029
that's a terrible webm, anon. you can make it a 3mb file.

Missed the stream
Link to m2k's loss?

>>379144114
>talking shit about the establishment

Only Nintendo.

>>379143976
They don't. It's basically trying to force a playstyle on the game.

Josh Weber cut Leffen off so he could talk about nothing

fucking TO

>>379143802
E-League was a good sign for SF moreso than CPT

>>379143941
'it's not just a video game', which is pretty implicit, makes sense tho and he wouldn't be wrong

>>379144029
>That fucking glass
God damn it mang0 maybe if you laid off the sauce you'd actually manage to win matches you washed up fat neckbeardy shit

>>379142976
theres profit in wind waker and twilight princess hd right?

>>379144060
>We're arguing semantics here.

We're not even arguing. Shit was cringey. I know you jerk off to hbox but not everyone does.

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>m2k has to beat Chu IN 2 SETS
This is going to take decades!

STREAM LINK

What is this Moon confessions?

>>379144185
it's pretty much daddy issues at this point. hbox know how to take advantage of that

>>379144075
Okay thanks. But how do they apply it?

>>379143835
Hbox can't do anything without going full cringe.

People care about cursing because everyone pretends that e-sports is this serious, respected thing that should be treated like televised professional sports. People pretend that 11 year olds haven't heard curse words. Sponsors pretend to care in order to appear classier and more marketable, as if the teenagers who buy e-sports gear give a fuck about swearing. Fans pretend to care because they're worried about sponsors dropping them. It's all a giant circle of lying to ourselves and each other.

>>379144265
endgametv1

>>379144231
>He's right though
You're making a claim, I'm disagreeing with it. We're arguing. In fact, we can argue that this isn't an argument too, if you want.

>>379144239
I might not even watch. I'm just hoping M2K is super tilted.

>>379144124
I mean, it's still better to finish your degree FIRST before trying to pursue to be the best at a video game. When you eventually retire from melee you don't have to go to UNI at an older age.

>>379144278
Wait what, the moons gay?

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Who's ready for an hour and half long two set finals between m2k and chu?

>>379143937
stay mad faggot

>>379143835
I don't get it either. Like..can Nintendo even legally shut their shit down if they wanted? Haven't they already tried that?

Then I fairly assume most of the people who watch melee/smash 4 are actually in their 20s, or at least certainly, over 18

Why do they care so much about cursing? Like usually when one slips commentators flip out and everything. Remember The Moon a few weeks ago, one curse slipped and they pretty much tossed him off mic while yelling WOAHHHH WOAHHHH WOAHHHH ESPORTS WOAHHHH

It's really dumb they care so much about cursing.

>>379144389
If Scar's comentating I'd tune in to hear him whine about it otherwise I ain't gonna bother.

>>379144229
nobody wants melee HD. Nintendo wouldnt remake a game HD and knowingly leave in exploits.

If not every single exploit is in people would rage and not play it.

>>379144389
Hell no. I'm going to sleep.
Hoping I'll wake up to a picture of yayuzz

>>379143651
cucks buying dresses and horse armor for their in-game toons

M2K vs CHUDAT

IT'S ABOUT TO GET FUCKED UP IN HERE.

>>379144050
he's sincerely one of the smartest people in the smash scene, or at least one of the most well articulated if you read any of the writings on his blog

puts the ragey outbursts in an interesting perspective

>>379144320
then.... just stop?

>>379144429
>Like..can Nintendo even legally shut their shit down if they wanted?
Nintendo didn't even sponsor the Melee tournament, but they could if they wanted to.

>>379144363
You're disagreeing with it by trying to do the 'it doesn't matter dude lol' shit. In which case, why even post? Oh, right, because you can't handle someone saying something about your boyfriend hbox.

>>379144429
>Like..can Nintendo even legally shut their shit down if they wanted?
Yes. It's why PM doesn't exist anymore.

>Haven't they already tried that?
Yes, but it was at EVO 2013 when Melee raised 90k for cancer so the PR nightmare of "NINTENDO SHUTS DOWN CANCER FUNDING ORGANIZATION" was so bad they had to drop it. thereafter they've just used it all as Sm4sh promotion.

>>379144429
Nintendo temporarily shutdown melee at evo 2013 before the backlash came in

>>379144135
>>379144185
Those were his exact words in response to being told the VOD would have to be pulled. Anyone != Nintendo. He was trying to justify his cursing on stream.

After that he called out Nintendo, but only went as far as saying "certain videogame publishers." So much for balls.

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Well, it was fun.
Can't wait to shitpost during the next tournament.

h-box is still a faggot

>>379144445
dont the OoT remake let a lot of glitches in?

>>379144429
They wanted to stop the EVO tournament one year but pissed everyone off so they let it go ahead as planned.