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FFXIV: Stormblood https://youtu.be/fSdfPXFGuw0 RDM or SAM?

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FFXIV: Stormblood

https://youtu.be/fSdfPXFGuw0

RDM or SAM?
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I fucking hate this game. I hate that it's become my life, but I have nothing else to live for.
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I want to romance her.
Add in sidequests for best girl, please.


I'm going to play SAM though cause my friend is playing RDM.
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How does this make you feel?
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>be first time in Dun Scaith
>with ilvl 235
>17k hp healer
>every hit from bosses takes half of my hp
>lots of attacks with vulnerability up debuff
>which literally means i'm going to die if i get hit a second time
>raid is wiping to Scathach and Diabolos Hollow
>finally finish it in 45mins
>the only loot drop I got is a chestpiece
>tfw lost to rng by some catboy in slutglam

I'm not so sure if I want to farm diabolic gear now. People apparently lack the brain capacity to learn through mechanics and I got through all the bosses just fine, learning from each wipe.
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>>379139023
Posted it in the last thread, but fuck it.

For all the 2.0 vets here:

>brd so strong they had to nerf it within less than a few months
>brd songs lower your dps by a large amount
>war so bad, everyone ran double pally until war got fixed
>if you were smn you were laughed out of anything at end game at first
>double blm king of speed running
>pulling the entire first part of the dungeon to the first boss, dying in a corner, then getting revived after they disengage within less then a min
>potash and coke sold for 200k+
>titan was a gate keeper for a majority of the place
>(blunt arrow) just used it!
>ads was beta-version of savage faust
>having raid gear showed you were not a shitter
>only one group ever beat glitchy twister-twin before it was hyper nerfed and fixed by devs
>allgan rot, but everyone just engages t2 to skip that
>silence rotations
>darklight armor
>behemoth and odin were all the rage and had the entire server come at them each time they appeared, even then it was still hard
>what are levi mirrors?
>had to get on early in the morning for a chance at being able to even que, --with-- a full party of four, to do expert roul as the servers were being choked and sometimes it'd take an hour or more to get into a dungeon
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ded thread ded gaem
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>>379139994
Like vote kicking at the earliest possible moment
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>>379142180
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>>379139994
Good lord what a drama queen. I'd be counting down the seconds to start a vote kick.
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>>379141920
Even so, you'll still outDPS a 3.5 SCH just by replacing all the GCDs you would have spent refreshing DoTs with Broil II
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In 10 years Yoshida will be running SE.
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>>379139023
definitely SAM
huge dick damage in dungeons and the open world
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So who is ready for double SAM to be a thing in raids?
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>>379139994

Votekick asap after telling them what an obnoxious shit they are.
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aether manipulation is the best skill in the game
- stylish
- INSTANT last minute eject from aoes while other bitches frantically scramble out of it, so you can play as greedily as you want
- INSTANT handling of positional mechanics (removing ramuh's terror is a matter of selecting the affected person even when they're across the screen)
- easy catching up with that tank running ahead of everybody, or zipping into the tank when you're harassed
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>>379139994
Makes me feel glad that they added a kick feature
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>>379139023
I wanted RDM, but he looks too braindead
Sam could be finally second fun melee class and I got little tired of nin anyway, but it's weeb shit again...
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>>379139994
>If you do small pulls you could heal yourself through I won't let you die!
Wow, I'm impressed!
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>>379142718
What the fuck does "weeb shit" (lol playing a japanese game while complaining about this) have to do with pressing the buttons?
Just look at the damage numbers.
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>>379139994
Kick.

Nobody is a special snowflake. Everyone does their job.
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>>379139023
So I'm doing level 60 HW dungeons as SMN and I keep stealing aggro from tanks.
So is Quelling Strikes like a necessity at this point?
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>>379139994
I've never come across anything like these. I'm starting to suspect this is just you fags falseflagging for shits and giggles.
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>>379139994
>Vercure means that we can kick those shitters and still proceed with the dungeon
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>>379142718
weebs hate SAM because it's not flashy and anime enough
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>>379139023
Neither because fuck potd. But SAM.
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>>379142854
Japanese game =/= weeb game
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>>379142714
30 seconds cooldown too.

Shitters who complained about muh mobility always underutilized it.
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>>379142943
>using weeb in fucking FF14
Literally everyone in the game is a weeb even the homosexuals pretending to be normalfags.
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>>379142180
>ads was beta-version of savage faust
T1 ADS was a version of Faust that wasn't terrible.

>Actual Mechanics
>CC required
>Adds that needed to be tanked and also had mechanics
>Basically something other than a group striking dummy
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>>379142895

I haven't encountered macros like that, but I've encountered a lot of healers who refuse to DPS for one reason or another. It's a fucking epidemic. They're just as bad as the DRK I ran into that refused to put on Darkside so he could coast through the dungeon on easymode since "it's the DPS's job to do damage, not his". Bless the devs for including votekick.
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>>379142997
Yeah, so any Japanese game with Japanese culture in it is a weeb game?
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Can this game be enjoyed as a single player rpg?
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>>379143167
no, dungeons and bosses cannot be soloed at the same level
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>>379143136
People are so scared to be identified as a weeb they denounce anything Japanese.
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>>379143167
this game cant be enjoyed
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>>379143167
do you like doing 400-500 fetch quests before being able to enjoy the games end game ?
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>>379143167
Mandatory dungeons require you to play with other players to progress the main story.
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>>379139129
this is you, and that one episode that feature a FFXI fanatic who can't get out of his game life.
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>>379143136
Cool heavy armored samurai with spear wouldn't be weeb shit
Some "nothing personal kid" ippatsu fucktard in the bathrobe and katana is weeb shit
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>>379143319
>wooooow the game is long
luckily there's a skip potion for people who want to piss away money to not play the game
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>>379143332
I wish it was me. He at least had his own place. And then he runs out and finds a job with almost no effort at all when he finally decides to do it.

My life is much worse.
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>>379143167

This >>379143204 is misleading

You have to do group content but you are automatically matched for it and you don't have to interact with anyone.

In fact, I find it's a better game if you don't, at least outside of raiding.
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>>379143167
Yea.
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>>379143332
>>379143410
Oh, and not to mention a cute girl goes out of her way to spend time with him because of her dumb daddy complex and how she wants someone to need her.

Again, not reality. His life really wasn't all that bad.
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>>379139023
Will I regret starting the expansion with a healer instead of a dps?
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>>379143134
People say that SB won't make things worse, all the shitty WARs flavor of the month will come out of the woodwork to become DRK enjoy the wild ride.
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>>379143136
>skill names aren't localized
>combines the best of monk and ninja into one job
>iaijutsu = ninja mudras without having to form seals
>800 potency katana slash, 800!
>kenki gauge, yato combo potency, sen seals
>Open eyes status
The job is up the ass weeb
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>SAM will never have raid gear like pic related because it shares with MNK
Maybe next expansion for AF, if we're lucky.
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>>379143373
>traditional japanese attire and japanese sword is "nothing personal kid"
Fuck off retard
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>>379142718
RDM's challenge is going to come from being able to adjust your rotation and priority on the fly to account for Verfire/Verstone procs and any differences in Black/White mana they cause. Although I wish there was more to their melee than jump in, 1234, jump out.
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>>379143436
>I find it's a better game if you don't
Very good advice. Shit, I only time I talk is in PVP to warn the team if we're about to get flanked from behind.
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>>379143410
construction and part time job is not that hard to find anon. Reject will happen but, opportunity is bound to happen

did you atleast tried college?
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>>379143516
I'll give you the lack of translations, that and that alone. Big dick damage isn't weeb, otherwise every good DPS job would be weeb.
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>>379143134

It's partially SE's fault for excusing lazy gameplay too.

The worst thing they could have done is say that they don't factor in healer DPS when they make raids, it's given an excuse to every shit healer out there, who now somehow believe it's ok to be AFK for 75% of a dungeon run.

Call it out though, and don't let it get normalised.
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>>379143490

Probably not, unless you hate healing. DPS queues will be fucking atrocious for months while heal and tank queues will be practically instant. You can even charge money to give people faster queues.
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>>379143373
>>379143543
Yoshi said there would be armored samurai sets too.
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>>379143436
i hate mmos and people, but the game looks fun

i wish they would make singleplayer version and cut out the mmo stuff and make it like XII
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>>379143543
I wonder why they chose MNK instead of DRG for sharing gear. Did they give a reason?
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>>379143058
Makes me laugh that people think that faust was hard, when it was just a pure DPS check, nothing else.

Meanwhile, ADS made sure you knew your shit in every area, before allowing to even DEAL with trash mobs.
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>>379143543

We did get custom job PVP gear with Garo stuff... It wouldn't surprise me if they did something like that again in 4.0
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>>379143332
>Playing a game because you want to RMT and fall for girls (male)
NHK's good but that shit was stupid
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>lala healers
Your life is safe
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>>379143638
When did he say that ?
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>>379143659
Free Trial up to level 35.
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>>379143603
Not really. I went for a semester while I was working there. That was a long time ago.

And nah, I've not been able to find work in years. Probably because I live in the middle of nowhere, can't drive and have an awful job history.
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>>379143691
>made sure you knew your shit in every area
What? It was babby's first raid boss.
Keep the add away from the main boss, interrupt the shock. The end.
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>>379143721
So cute, so hilarious, so degenerate.
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>>379143702
have you read the novel or manga at least it was a little grimmer
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>>379143617
>Big dick damage isn't weeb
Favouritism for big dick damage given to nippon steel class is weeb. BLM's strongest spell doesn't even hit that hard.
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>>379142714
You're a man of good taste. I laugh my ass off every time I use it on someone and they freeze up not understanding what the fuck the BLM just did to them. Just shows how underused it is by your average BLM pleb.
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>>379143809
The job completely lacks any sort of raid utility, without good damage it would literally be the worst.
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>>379143731
best find a secondary hobby next to ffxiv and learn to utilized or enjoy it in dark time anon.
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>>379143684
you would think with MNk sharing gear with NIN and DRG being the only class with its own exclusive set, on top of being the most tanky DPS in appearance, SAM would take their gearset to equal it out. Nah fuck that just go MNK again.
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>>379143817

I cry when people don't stand still for the 1 fucking second it takes for me to aetherially manipulate my ass to safety, causing me to eat an aoe or die. Especially when they have nothing to dodge, they're just moving around for no reason.
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>>379143809

The 720 potency attack isn't even what'll make SAM do huge damage, it's the DoT and the Kenki moves that are going to be huge. Someone mathed out that transferring the Sen into Kenki is going to be a DPS increase over using the super move.
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>>379143743
Surely you see how that's a better "Intro to raiding" boss than "Hit this boss until it either dies or kills you because you ran out of time"
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>>379143659

The game is far more enjoyable than FF12 and you will still spend most of the time doing single player story content. Taken to the extreme you can just turn off chat in multiplayer dungeons and pretend the party members are AI controlled.
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>>379143949
>you would think with MNk sharing gear with NIN
u wot m8
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>>379143963
I'm going to use the super move anyways because it looks cool.
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>>379143963
You don't pay my sub you can't make me not use my flashy super move every time I can. I'm a Iaijutsu SAM you can go fuck yourself.
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SE made their bed when they decided to make raid content be 8 man based and requiring two tanks and two healers. Did they expect people not to bring the jobs with the most synergy? If YoshiP ever starts whining that balance is hard I'll make sure to remind him that they picked the group sizes.
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>>379144008
maybe he's talking about lota lmao
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>>379143743
It was tough for those that went in without full darklight and within the first two months of the game.

Compared to faust? Faust is a damn joke. Your DPS had to not just be good, but you had to make sure not to fuck up the silence rotation. Then you had to make sure you split up the dps correctly, while maintaining that silence rotation. A single mess up of silence would cause a party wipe, as you'd get shock and wouldn't be able to cleanse the para, leading to a wipe.

This was on top of people who were still getting use to the game as well, so it honestly made it harder than it was, but it was -still- more tougher than faust.
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>>379144008
MNK and NIN shared gear in 2.x up until 2.4 where NIN got its own set (although it was just a different colored set from MNKs set).

DRG on the other hand has never shared gear with any other DPS and is the only job to have the maiming sets to be exlusive to it.
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>>379144058

I'm personally going to be a vercure/verraise only RDM.
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>>379144164
>comparing not doing any dps to doing slightly less optimal dps
c'mon now
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How is the community in this game? Are you guys making friends? Memories? How are the events?
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>>379143963
From what I've read using big dick Iai will still be a dps increase during openers and burst but further into the encounter turning your sens into kenki will probably do more damage.
Even then I expect SE to adjust it since guren feels more like it was intended to be a kenki dump.
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>>379139023
>still 2.5 gcd timing

ugh. that shit will never make me like this game
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>>379144214
Shit shit shit
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>>379144040
You get to use it every other time you build it up I believe, as the conversion skill has a 40s CD and you build 3 in 18-20s.
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>>379143883
It has access to role abilities for that and can debuff slashing resistance. What other raid ultility do top dps classes need other than the ability to kill things quick and its competent in both single and AoE.
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>>379144164
Good for you break the oppressive meta, we will rise up and slow dungeons down to a crawl! If Square didn't want us to play a certain way they wouldn't give us the skills in the first place.
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>>379144214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6n-Pjx0ATs
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>>379143817
yeah, their "wait, is there an enemy?" pause never stops being amusing, also
>doing garuda ex
>revive a BLM
>they walk up to spiny plume instead of flying into the 5 people standing in it
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>379144283

I can't wait to use Tether on everything
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>>379144164

Don't short-change yourself, be a white mana only RDM. That way you'll be useful enough to not get kicked from every party but frustratingly bad enough that people will tell stories about you on the internet. You can be the next Leeroy Jenkins or Onyxia Wipe; you only have to try.
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>>379142895
I only ever see these horror stories on /v/ too. People are almost far too nice and patient in my runs.
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>>379144214
>community
>in what is effectively a lobby rpg

The only community you'll get is the Quicksand on Balmung
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>>379144214
you're asking this question at the wrong place.
Everyone here are loner losers who hates to play other people because they sucks.
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>>379144110
Oh well then clearly because MNK and NIN shared a handful of sets 3 years ago, no one else should ever use Striking gear again.
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>>379144214
The community is a joke, nobody talks. It's so bad they make you use the chatbox during a tutorial and several quests, just to remind you that it's there.
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>>379144297
What the ever loving fuck
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>>379144268
>What other raid ultility do top dps classes need
Buffs for other party members?
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>>379144385
I mean

Why the fuck would they not just make it even and give the maiming set to SAM.
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>>379144214

In-game it's generally friendly, raging dweebs are outnumbered by chill casuals by a large margin. There's a group for every kind of person and a lot of players are forgiving of newbie mistakes by sprouts. The mentor network is iffy in terms of quality but there are people with crowns who genuinely want to help out.

I don't make friends because I'm socially anxious even in an MMO, but I've had good times with various groups and there are a lot of social cliques.

Great memories, especially clearing super hard content for the first time. I still feel blissful about my first TitanEX clear and it's been over two years.

Events are usually subdued and self-contained. Depending on your server there are community-organized events (usually RP-focused though).
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>>379144214
there is no world/global chat so unless you join a not-dead guild(FC) or a good private chat channel (LS), you'll forget other people are even playing.

Pretty much no one ever talks unless its to annonce that they've found a hunt mob.
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>>379144534
Because shit that happened 3 years ago doesn't count for making anything "even". MNKs today use their own sets, NINs use their own sets, DRGs use their own sets. It doesn't fucking matter.
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I should do roulette more. Haven't gotten new material to make another one of these since 3.2.
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>>379144254
>>379144297
>>379144364
>>379144371
>>379144437
>>379144602
Oh come on guys, it's not that bad
GET ME OUT OF HERE
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>>379144501
>What are role abilities
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>>379144214
Free Trial up to level 35.
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>>379144710
It's not the game's fault you're a hopeless addict who can't quit.
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>>379144709
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>>379144713
Oh, you mean shit all the other jobs get too?
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>>379144709

I very rarely get mouthy-terrible people.

I get a lot of terrible people though.
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>>379144710
Just do what I did. Every time I logged in I made a point of thinking out loud "I could be doing anything else."
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>>379144709

>Giving neutral advice is now being disrespectful and rude

Wonder who pissed in his coffee to get him so worked. People who reply like that are usually looking for a reason to get mad about something.
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>>379144695
Are you this retarded? your argument is "it doesnt matter" well then why the fuck not just give them maiming?
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>>379142872

I queued as a healer, so I'm doing my job. Don't expect me to do your's, too.
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>>379144929
Because they wanted to give them Slashing instead. I don't see what the big fucking problem is.
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>>379144250
We know, you can stop posting this every thread
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>>379139023
Any tips on someone starting fresh? Played the free trail and got hooked.
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I just want some more character customization. Visual, mechanical, whatever. Fuck this game if item level is all that differentiates you from others at high levels again.
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I just finished the quest Heavensward, can I get through the HW MSQ line before early access? I have to gear up to 230 too.
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>>379145004
Striking*
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>>379145021
>every thread

Good to hear that the 2.5 gcd thing isn't just a meme then and that people legitimately have a problem with it. For a minute there, I almost thought you were implying only one person was saying it
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>>379144983
This is obviously bait, but to anyone that actually thinks like that:

Healers are on a priority system:

Make sure nobody is going to die > Make sure you're DPSing the mob > Make sure everyone is topped enough
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>>379145031
Yes
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>>379145031
Depends on how fast you go. You got roughly two weeks or so. If you no life it, with friends helping on ques? Yes.

If not? Then no.
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>>379145030
Being able to do your job properly differentiates you from 95% of the other players.
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>>379145151
I'm mostly gonna be soloing it for like 2-3 hours a night. So prolly not I guess.
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>>379145031
Yeah the 3.X stuff is nowhere near as long as 2.X. Just try to farm up some tomestones from ARF (that 60 dungeon you do just before finishing) to buy some 230 gear. The ILV jumps are insane as you go through.
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>>379145031

The HW MSQ is much shorter than ARR's, but it's still a substantial time investment. You've got over a year of patches to go through after all.

The game will throw gear at you until you're 60, at which point you can grind for currency or do PvP to get 230 gear. The current EX roulette dungeons (Sohm Al HM and Sloppy's Wall) drop i245, Weeping City of Mhach drops i230, and you can buy i230 with Tomestones of Lore. PvP gear is i235.
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>>379145089
>that people legitimately have a problem with it
People have a legitimate problem with literally everything.
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>>379145130
>Make sure you're DPSing the mob
kek. this is why FFXIV is filled with casuals like yourself
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>>379144709

Strange, I get the feeling you want us to sympathize with the SCH here for some reason even though he's being an obnoxious autistic cunt... Please tell me I'm wrong.
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>>379145241
it doesnt discredit that this game's combat is slow and clunky as balls
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>>379145193
So I can just grind that dungeon out for tomes for gear then? Sounds rough but I can handle that.
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>>379144709

If you were in my group I'd votekick you.

t. hardcore raider
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>>379145308
Play WoW then and you can spam your 3-button rotation to your heart's content.
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>>379145271
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>>379145186
If you're watching cutscenes? Lords no.

If you skip them? Still no.

Might as well enjoy the story and go at your own pace. They won't unlock weekly stuff until two weeks after the expansion. So honestly? You got just over a month or so to get to end game, before weekly, else you'll start to fall behind on end game stuff.
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>>379145374
>3-button rotation

You mean the one FFXIV has? I know you're use to making up mental delusions in your head, but don't try to rewrite your game's combat.
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>>379145308
Look I don't know what conversation you think we're having but my point was that your post didn't mean anything.
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>>379145338
Yeah you get like 150 tomes each run and gear costs 300-900 a piece. Just do trial roulettes with a 60 character and play through the story. Only grind when you hit a dungeon that you don't have the ilv for otherwise it'll just really make it feel slow.
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>>379145390
Well, I probably will be late since i'll be switching from MNK to SAM and i'm poor as shit, so i'm just glad that I can use monk gear for it.
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>>379145468
Most jobs have several combos to manage as well as procs and buffs so no, it's not 3 button rotation at all. Also the abilities that are woven between weaponskills.
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>>379145025
Quests can't be repeated when you change classes. Crafting is a waste of time, bag space and money. Learn how to join FATE trains.
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>>379145517
Two weeks after the expansion, unless shit happens, weekly and 'story raid' will unlock. Two weeks after -that- will be the true raid tier unlock.
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>>379145338
Don't listen to that other Anon about gearing up, just do PvP. I don't care if you hate it, you can gear up in just a couple hours of losing.
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>>379145574
>FATE trains
does anyone actually do this anymore? I thought everyone was in Palace of the Dead. FATE trains were all the rage when I started before Heavensward, but doing them lately? forget it
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>>379139023
Is that a JO Crystal?
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>>379145542
the linear slow rotation of the classes is precisely the point. All your procs have cooldowns, all your buffs have short durations with long cooldowns, and to top it off, you have the most non reactive combat ever experience. everything in this combat system is working against you. Then I realized they were doing this to keep console players from having to do too much, gutting the entire mmo.
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>>379145598
Oh, so it's 4 weeks from HW launch, not 4 weeks from now.
>>379145636
Is pvp that good for gear?
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>>379145271
>People knowingly slowing others down because they can't be arsed to get proper gear before going into party content or turn their brain on while playing
>But no you see it's the person pointing it out to them that they can do better with a few simple steps is toxic

I'm legit scared that this line of thinking gets out into actual real functioning society where people feel entitled for pats on the back just because they show up.
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game is aesthetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_dHioa7Zqc
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>>379144914
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>>379145636
Yo I'm
>>379145193
Listen to this guy and not me. I forgot how easy it is to get pvp gear which will raise your ilv easy.
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>>379145720
Shitters and a macro tank. I'm so sorry.
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>>379144907
>I could be studying
>I could be drawing
>I could be exercising
>but capping my tomes is easier
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>>379145692
Yes it's the fastest and easiest way. Brings you right up to 230. You won't have any accuracy but that won't be a huge deal since you can start replacing your PvP gear with better stuff almost immediately.
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>>379145720
>I've had a stressful day at work so you gotta put up with me!
This is apparently not "toxic".
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>>379145794
to be honest I just want to rush though the MSQ and be done with it. I'm not looking to 'properly' gear or whatever. Just get to 230, not be a total burden in groups, and chill until I can SAM it up. I just don't like monk anymore.
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>>379145786
I don't really mind macros if it's for Provoke only, as long as it's not super obnoxious
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>>379145717
that's actually a pretty nice video
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>>379145717
Read that as "game is autistic". Somehow it's still more appropriate than what you said.
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>>379145708

If you gear up more than the minimum item level for any given dungeon or raid, you are an autistic waste of oxygen.

If you actually complain about others not doing it, you are so fucking obnoxious and socially incompetent that it's a miracle if you ever get a smile from anyone in real life. Enjoy your basement.
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>>379145786
This was when Neverreap was relevant, and the WAR was doing double his DPS

>>379145834
Can't wait to see more of these idiots at the level cap once jump potions are a thing.
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>>379145879
PvP gear is perfect to just get you through the story.
But when SB releases SAM is available to anyone with a job at 50+ so you can swap then regardless if you haven't finished the story.
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>>379145879
That's what I'm telling you. PvP gear will get you into everything but Creator Savage.
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>>379145720

Fucking casuals. "Oh my weary bones, I just wanted to have fun playing a job I hate after a long day of working a job I hate. Don't suggest improvements or anything that makes me try even a little harder, I just can't do it. Please understand, I play to distract myself with mindless tedium instead of having fun by gradually getting better."

I hate that I share the same hobby as these people but we have it for very different reasons.
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>>379145720
I fucking hate excuses like this
If I want to get something done, then i'm going to play my job to the best of its ability because I want to get through it faster

That's also why I fucking hate retards that stand around on trash mobs in 24 mans and don't try because "LOL IT'S A 24 MAN"
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>>379145720

You must be fun at parties.
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>>379146032
Why even play if you hate the game that much.
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>>379146032
Well it's true, why should I waste effort on AoE when there's 3 other groups of DPS who can do it or me? Lol cucks.
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>>379145985
That really looks pretty simple.
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>>379145684
>all your procs have cooldowns
that constantly rush you to blow them, as opposed to procs without cooldowns you can hold forever?

>short durations with long cooldowns
forcing you to press and weave as much as possible to maximize their potential?

>you have the most non reactive combat
then play BLM/MCH where every change in the server tick, the boss behavior and the way your party moves/dishes out damage/breathes forces you to reconsider your elastic rotation

you're contradicting yourself
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>tfw to smart to not play Au Ra (male)
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>>379146024
>>379146026
Alright, thanks.

I don't wanna shit up the thread too much but thanks for the advice. Sounds like I gotta figure out where I go for pvp then and scrub it up for a bit. Oh, can I still get Garo armor? I know every other samurai is gonna be wearing that shit but it's aesthetic.
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>>379146082
I like the game just fine, but I hate spending longer than I need to cause chucklefucks want everyone else to do the work and then complain "This is taking too long"
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>>379146005
Don't worry, SE will make dungeons easier to accomodate them.
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>all this interest for SAM
Since when was /v/ filled with so many neckbeards?
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>>379146005

It pleases me that you spend your life wallowing in misery, since you clearly deserve it for being such a prick.
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>>379145542
Don't bother arguing with exaggerating retards like those

http://ffxivrotations.com/hwu
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>tfw finally finished HW hildabrand
that was really good i should've done it sooner
I hope Cyr gets his own little sidequest in 4.0
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>>379146179
Since for-fucking-ever, newfag.
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>>379146179
>people are interested in the flagship new job for the new expansion
really painthrobs the braincase
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>>379145985
I think you can go from Verstone/Verfire directly into Veraero/Verthunder? I'm not sure if that's beneficial though.
>>379145968
(You)
>>379146005
>Can't wait to see more of these idiots at the level cap once jump potions are a thing.
You know, this really isn't a problem in WoW (right now anyway, there used to be the same complaints from the hardcore crowd back when it was introduced), but with XIV where the game forces you to interact with bad players as much as possible, I can see it being a real problem.
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>>379145985
>Nothing about forcing imbalance post-80
Hmm.
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>>379145985
You will probably want to use Manafication even if Corps-a-corps is not on cooldown. It'd be wasted DPS to delay it just for the sake of Corps-a-corps.
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>>379146179
son will pick between
>be a reddit jew
>or be a potential DPS meta
but in both path lead to SAM
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>>379146316
Manafication resets Corps a Corps and the backjump move so you can do it when you have mana and not run the risk of overcapping
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>>379146127
Not that Anon but MCH is nothing like that.
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Rumor has it they're making Zodiac/Anima weapons purchasable from Mogstation in 4.0.
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>>379146316
But then you're going to pop it right off the bat, before even getting your first rotation through. It might math out better to do it immediately, but it's hard to say.

>>379146268
Yes, that's why Verstone/fire loops right back into either using Veraero/thunder, because you want to use the Dualcast from stone/fire for aero/thunder.
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>>379146127
I dont know why you mention "hold forever" when procs have a duration when they last just like in any mmo, including wow. The fact a proc even has a cooldown just adds to the slowness of the combat system since you can proc again except you can't use it for a good 25 to 40 seconds cause the system doesn't want you using them fast enough. You can't mention press and weave when FF14 has THE WORSE combat lag and responsiveness I've ever seen. There's so much waiting to go off that when you use a skill, you end up wasting at least 2 seconds of it simply because of the game's inherent latency. People like you go

>oh, it makes it more strategic

Except there's nothing strategic in getting a lucky server tick and making sure the system isn't currently being hogged by a skill that has yet to go off despite hitting it half a second ago. And don't get me started on BLM. BLM playing exactly shows the flaws of FF14's combat simply based on the server finally realizing you hit a button.

You guys can hate on WoW all you want, that game has some of the best responsiveness in the genre, and it's precisely why it feels good. If FF14 had this same responsiveness, the game would be a lot better. It still needs to fix other things, like being able to customize your class and stop making their areas empty and huge / small and plain, but again, blame PS3 and PS4 for all of FF14's shortcomings. This game has a lot of potential, but once again, it's being made incompetent greedy Square enix.
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>>379146449
There is no way they don't know better than that. The devs may be completely out of touch with their playerbase but even they cant be that grossly incompetent and stupid. Even if they were just level 1 glamour gear the shitstorm would be immense beyond any reckoning.
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>>379146449
That would be awesome. Fuck anyone dumb enough to do those things.
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Best 15-49 dungeon:
Best 50 dungeon:
Best 51-59 dungeon:
Best 60 dungeon:
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>>379146436
i thought MCH has an extremely rigid and mashy rotation without much deviation, and it's totally possible to get cucked out of wildfire because the boss *flies away*
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RDM looks like it could be fun

I really hope so
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>>379146570
You severely underestimate the amount of bullshit that this playerbase will defend
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>>379146208
>exaggerating

over 50% of your rotation at any given time is just the same 1-2-3-occasionally 4, use 5 to keep a dot going, and return to 1 2 3. All the ogcds in this game are short term duration with long term cooldowns, and about 2-3 of them are always situational abilities you will never use, mostly cross skill abilities.

So no Im not exaggerating
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>>379146268
Not sure why people care about jump potions so much. People are already shitty, this isn't going to change anything.
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>>379146570
Remember when Yoshi-P said Anima Lux weapons were superior to i280 Diadem weapons? Lol.
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>>379146589

Best 15-49 dungeon: Haukke
Best 50 dungeon: Amdapour
Best 51-59 dungeon: Gubal
Best 60 dungeon: Arborterium
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>>379146623
I mean, the bosses have set times or HP levels where they go invincible. You can and should plan around them
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>expert roulette
>tank refuses to do big pulls

I would rather leave and wait for the 30 minutes instead of healing this fucker
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>>379146589
Aurum Vale
Wanderer's Palace (Normal)
The Vault
ARF if you never burned yourself out grinding it over and over, Saint Mocianne's if you did
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>>379146623
I hate wildfire for this as a new mch it feels impossible to anticipate and plan those moments.
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>>379146589
aurum vale
lost city
vault
fractal
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>>379146589
Haukke
Pharos Sirius
Vault
Fractal
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>>379146589
>Best 15-49 dungeon:
Brayflox's Longstop because it's like the only outdoors one
>Best 50 dungeon:
If not Praetorium, then Lost City
>Best 51-59 dungeon:
The Vault, not even a contest
>Best 60 dungeon:
Fractal Continuum
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>>379146623
>i thought
Well then why did you post about a class you don't play?
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>>379146628
What the dumbfucks on the OF do and don't defend means relatively little in the face of the amount of people that would upset. Relics are a hundred hour investment if you do them before nerfs happen, putting them in the cash shop will send most everyone who did them, which is a large group of dedicated players, into a frothing rage and even the devs have to know that.
>>379146729
Of course, I'm not saying that the dev team isnt retarded I'm just saying they aren't that retarded.
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>>379146769

Is your name Mary? You're quite contrary.
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>>379146754
>DPS higher throughout weeks of gearing up
>Boss starts jumping even earlier
>Having to replan your shit or delay Wildfire further which delays all further uses of it
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>>379146769
>Aurum Vale
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>>379146541
>The fact a proc even has a cooldown just adds to the slowness
how does this add to the slowness when the short cooldown makes you want to use the proc immediately, and any proc you get again while the cooldown is still up is wasted? the cooldown is there because the system wants you to use it without holding onto it for an eternity

and it's recover animation, not lag. if you have lag when playing BLM of all things it's your own connection's fault
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>>379146127
>then play BLM/MCH where every change in the server tick
>hit spell
>casting time
>enemy dies
>casting bar continues to reach the end instead of canceling right there
>server tick makes the cast cancel a random affair
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>>379146825
>they aren't that retarded.
Remember when the dev teams absolutely gutted WHM for an expansion? Oh, wait, that's happening right now.
Remember when the devs started adding cash shop trash like the backflip emote and playdead emote, and generally added stuff to the cash shop that had no ties to anything? Oh wait, that's becoming more and more frequent an occurrence.
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>>379146487
Yeah, you will pop it right off the bat. You want to do that, so that your melee combo happens early enough to line up with all the buffs everyone else is going to be throwing out in their own openers.

What you can do though, so that you aren't "wasting" a Corps-a-corps and Displacement, is use them before your melee combo during your opener. i.e., use Jolt II, then Veraero/Verthunder, then quickly Corps-a-corps > Displacement before your next attack. Although, if the animation lock causes you to clip your GCD, it may not be a DPS gain. And doing them over more than 1 GCD is dangerous, as if you're in melee range and accidentally auto-attack, you can lose Doublecast.
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>>379146589
Brayflox Longstop, Amdapor Keep Hard, The Vault, Gubal Hard.
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>>379146729
It's more of a perspective thing than a numerical comparison. It's "better" because it's realistically obtainable.
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>>379146194
I live a decent life. Doesn't stop me from typing between GCDs to point something out.
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>>379146987
Yes I remember all of that. I still don't think they are dumb enough to disenfranchise a huge group of people they know are dedicated enough to spend dozens of hours grinding for their relics. They know those people are hopeless addicts and they won't alienate their wallets.
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>>379147037
What's wrong with that image? Seems like he agreed to play better as long as you got your shit together.
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>>379146757
>like tanking the most by a huge margin
>don't know how to mass pull content
>try and either die or make my party run to a dev barrier wasting like 30secs

I'd be so happy if there were videos that show how to mass pull content
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>>379146916
your argument about a proc having a cooldown encouraging you to use it whenever it's up is weak based on the fact that there should be nothing stopping that same proc from having a cooldown to begin with. The ability itself is non usable until you actually get it proc'd. There is no excuse not to use it after that. If you want to talk procs having a balance in the regard, WoW has it where it's Execute uses up rage despite never having a cooldown. In FF14, the equivalent ability Mercy Stroke and Misery's End are given a 12 second cooldown instead of just giving it no cooldown and a resource cost of some kind.

Not even knowing simple game mechanics like this is why FF14 is mostly filled with grubby casuals like yourself who fall for this shitty design in the first place.
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>>379146879
It's a fun dungeon by any metric that isn't pure exp:time efficiency.
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>>379147146
> Seems like he agreed to play better as long as you got your shit together.
No, he said "fuck off and stop telling me what to do".
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>>379147023
But there's literally no way to twist that statement to make it sound anything other than blatantly wrong. Because that's what it is. Wrong. Doesn't matter whether Diadem weapons aren't "realistically obtainable" or not, the fact of the matter is that during a casual catch-up patch, weapons were added into the game that were objectively superior to both the timesink relic weapons AND the weapons you got from raids. And the way to get these better weapons was to do some of the worst, shittiest and most boring content in the entire fucking game.
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>>379144214
Community depends. There's lots of people that are pretty nice, but it sort of lacks the normie population that WoW has, so you end up stumbling into a lot more weirdos than usual. (recently had to leave an FC because people kept messaging me lewd shit and that gets awkward.) So long as you stay away from the big Aether servers it's fine.
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>>379147146
How dense are you?
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>be new, just unlocked SCH/SMN
>try out SCH in a dungeon
Holy fuck this is insane, I didn't have to cast a single heal the entire dungeon, the faerie did everything while I just applied dots everywhere.
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>>379147190
It's an awful dungeon with boring visuals, boring bosses, and shit mechanics.
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>>379147230
No monster hunter thread to post in?
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>>379147230
Later on that changes but a good scholar can still spend more time DPSing than healing all the way through endgame.
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>>379147167
>Pop cooldown(s)
>Gather mobs
>AoE
That's it dude.
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>>379147146
Innocence is so cute
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>>379147203
>But there's literally no way
Your entire post is based on the logic that numerical numbers are all and exactly what he's talking about. I very literally just gave you a way in which they're better. All you're doing now is telling me you can't accept that.
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>>379147267
What?
>>379147282
Sounds pretty fun, I don't like being a healer that just eyes his party's health bars all dungeon.
>tfw Tank/Healer main so I have zero queues
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>>379147167
you cant mass pull if your healer is shit
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>>379147240
The generic hallways with 0 patrols and mobs so spread apart that you have no danger of accidentally pulling more than one pack are so much better.
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>>379147180
>Execute as an example of good design
>Rotation becomes simpler in Execute range because you shift priority for Rage spending to Execute since the DPR is almost always better
Sure it feels good to use, but you're being rewarded for doing less.
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>>379147289
I guess this is why nothing exists to detail mass pulls. Most people don't even consider it.

For example in wall (the expert dungeon) you can't just grab all the mobs or in wp hard the power totems and the amount of mobs means you have to pull less.
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>>379147486
That's what Aurum vale is.

>Brown walls and piss pool hallways
>More brown halls and piss pool caves
>Green/brown monsters the whole way through.
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>>379147146
i wish i was this dense
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>>379147528
>or in wp hard the power totems and the amount of mobs means you have to pull less.
You realize that you can just pull them outside of the totem right
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>>379147515
Execute doesn't become efficient during a raid when the phase at the last 20% requires a rage spending ability to invest in. Because you have other ogcds skills available during it, you have to be using the other high damaging skills along with it to keep your dps up. (this is actual weaving cause WoW's responsiveness will always be superior to FF14's).

I care not for the argument of which mmo has the most abilities. Neither interests me as much as making the combat not a clunky shitfest.
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>>379147423
>Your entire post is based on the logic that numerical numbers are all and exactly what he's talking about
He was talking about numbers though. "Anima weapons are better because you can customize the stats on them" was the claim. Except secondaries don't do a very good job of compensating for +3 WD
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>>379147240
Nah.

The Rafflesia thing has a pretty good mechanic for a leveling dungeon that puts pressure on a healer and requires just a tiny bit of coordination between party members for who's going to eat what.

Coincounter is just a good boss, and the only thing you can really count against it is that they went on to basically use that exact same boss 3-4 other places in the game.

The Morbol Queen's big mechanic builds on what you learned from the first boss, but adds some heavier damage on top of that, makes eating the fruit a bit more complicated, and has an add mechanic that's pretty good for a leveling dungeon.

The trash enemies are densely packed enough that you actually tend to do "pulls" instead of just running into a room and engaging everything, and hit hard enough (with the level sync) that you usually get walloped if you do it wrong.

The whole place is an eyesore but otherwise it's one of the best dungeons in the game, unless your sole metric for dungeon quality is how quickly/easily/efficiently you can run it for experience and tomestones.
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>>379147528
You can actually pull every mob in Baelsar's Wall. Requires a more competent healer than normal but good groups do it. In fact, you can do that in WP hard as well.
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>>379146796

>Brayflox is the only outdoor one

Well damn, that made me think. For outdoor dungeons with no closed ceiling and no cramped buildings/ruins shit, there's...

Brayflox (NM and HM)
Hullbreaker (moreso the HM)
Snowcloak
Sohm Al (NM)
Neverreap
Sohr Khai
Xelphatol
No wonder I tend to feel cramped and miserable in most of the dungeons. There's so few that actually let you see the sky and nature.
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I guess its too late to get i270 weapon at this point huh
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>>379146589
Brayflox
Wanderer's Palace (HM)
The Vault (though Gubal for music)
Fractal
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>>379147649
>Execute doesn't become efficient during a raid when the phase at the last 20% requires a rage spending ability to invest in
The hell are you even trying to say here? There are few examples of Execute not having the most DPR value, and in the majority of cases it is a waste to spend Rage anywhere else unless you're running the risk wasting Rage.

Don't try to talk Warrior to me boy, that's my bread and butter.
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>>379147552
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>>379144091
Lest we talk about T2 and ADS allagan rot swapping with all the previous ads orbs you killed before the main boss, having him absorb their mechanics

T1-5 were innocent times and times for the great to shine
where did it all go wrong
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>>379147719

Nah, but the effort required might not be worth it.
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>>379145598
yeah but when does housing unlock
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>>379147719
There's no point in getting anything this late when it's going to be replaced by 63 in Stormblood
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>>379147719
No, if you cap tomestones this week and next week, or next week and the week after, you can buy a Shire weapon and upgrade it to 270.

275 weapons are a bit of a different story if you don't have friends who can help you get them.
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>>379147528
you can grab all the mobs in all the expert dungeons, there is nothing complicated about it that is why there arent guides, you just need a decent healer
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>>379147775
Now go on and post the narrow parts of the cavern where you're stuck fighting. Aurum Vale is as 'open' as the church dungeon.
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>>379147760
If you were a WoW player, then you either are a fucking casual for defending the clunky shit that is FF14's combat, or you're a scrub tier player. Either way, you sound like a fucking casual regardless.
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>>379147719
depends on how many tomes you have, reset is tomorrow and it will reset one more time before stormblood so you can make a total of 2700 tomes before launch and a 270wep only costs 1000. That said, really not worth it.
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>>379146862
Yes and? Every class which does anything other than "press buttons as they come off CD" has to do that. Even fucking WAR has to do that. Frankly, if it's even halfway tuned you won't be skipped phases until you've got it on farm anyways.

>>379147002
There's like no animation lock; you have full control while moving I believe.

I suspect the opener will have you blow CaC asap followed by the retreat, as you're going to then use Manafiction the moment you hit 40/40.

So something like Jolt -> VA (Fleche + Contra Sixe) -> Proc/Impact -> VT (CaC + Retreat) -> Proc/Jolt -> Repeat until at 40/40 -> (Manafiction + Ca) -> Melee Combo (one oGCD after each) -> Last hit (Retreat).

Now I'm not sure where Embolden will fit in, and you probably blow Accel asap.
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>>379144091
Don't forget about having to hold your horses so you don't pull aggro. Especially as a WHM.

>healing ADS while it has the slashing resistance buff
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>>379147593
Yes but if you're keeping a decent pace you will get auto'd for some decent damage and if you're retarded like me you'll come to realize that those autos add up and healers can't heal too well while running. I know how to pull some content watching other tanks but 50 dungeons are AWFUL to tank because of these stupid pulls. At least I can pull to end in 60 content.
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>>379147827
>Doesn't know what he's talking about
>Can't refute
>Y-YOU SUCK
That's cute, kid. I'm not defending XIV, I'm calling out your bullshit.
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if they don't add new saucer items this expansion will be crushed
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>>379147945
Kek, rich coming from a cat-playing faggot who thinks his virtual signaling means shit
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>>379147282
i used to think this way until i got to aurum vale,

those tanks would die in 2 or 3 seconds if I didn't start healing them on top of faerie heals
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>>379147979
>cat
>virtual signaling
Uh oh he's gettin' angery boys.
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>>379147719
I mean, you could always run Creator Savage, but if you don't know the fights good luck finding a group trying to put up with you. If you have some non-retarded friends you can definitely learn it in 2 weeks, especially with echo though.
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>>379148025
fuck off, cat faggot
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>>379147817
>>379147828
I have a 1000 tomes for the shire, just have to get the gears. But don't I need to run A11S 4 times for the manifesto which is weekly locked?
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>>379147971
fenrir or archon throne
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>>379148007
There are of course situations where that won't apply but Aurum Vale is a special kind of hell too.
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>>379148060
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You first.
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>>379147971

i've been praying for more mundane npc gear ever since gold saucer was first released but they never bothered adding any
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>>379147775

I'd like this dungeon a lot if it wasn't so goddamn miserable.

>brown and green and yellow everywhere
>dreary cavern full of ugly monsters
>no sense of freedom; you're trapped in a cave full of noxious fumes and dead rock
>tanks who don't know how to pull shit and players who don't know how to avoid standing in yellow goop are your party members
>boss mechanics actually fucking matter and will kill you if not handled properly for the first time ever
>no one ever does on their first or even third time no matter how well they're explained
>synced to 49 so no fun buttons allowed

I hate that place so goddamn much.
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>>379148069
You can get a micro tomestone by doing A12 normal 4 times, no lock, and buy the upgrade material with a 1 of each HW 24man token.
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>>379148069
You need to run A12 story mode 4 times for the micro tome and the 3 24 mans for a coin each for the gobdip.
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>>379148125
Anon it's so fun and open and not linear at all though :^)
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>>379147979
>muh cat players
Funny since the poll on /v/ still put them as the second most popular race on this board right after Hyur. muh special snowflake syndrome.

I don't even know or care what you were arguing about, but you certainly don't actually have an argument.
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>>379148125
Aurum Vale is a glimpse into an alternate timeline where FFXIV expected players to be responsible and learn some basic play concepts instead of nerfing the difficulty of Level 15 Sastasha even after Heavensward had launched.
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so i hear the story is gated by item level? what is the ilevel i need to be able to access most of the content? what ilevel do I need minimum to be prepared for SB? and how should I get those pieces? how long would it take?
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>>379148265
i230
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Currently leveling an AST and sometimes I can't even do dps because certain tanks take so much damage that they are at a constant risk of dying, if I wouldn't spam b2 on top of my heal dot all the time.

Why are there such huge differences between tanks? It has nothing to do with their equipment, it seems. Even when everyting is synched, there are still tanks that take a fuckton amount of damage.

Why is that? They don't pull more.
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>379148090
>padded parses meaning anything
>especially in creator
lmao, us raiders amrite
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>>379148246
He thinks he can try to drop his sick superior WoW knowledge on this thread, only to be exposed for not knowing shit.

Now he's throwing a tantrum.
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>>379148125
Aurum vale is really good for fap fuel.
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>>379147825
Like that room before Coincounter with three (3) packs side by side, two of which containing Banemites that hit extremely hard before they were nerfed? Or every area that contains Morbols and their seeds?

Aurum Vale, Brayflox Longstop and Dzemael Darkhold are the most "open" dungeons in the game but of course they're gonna have some halls, they're fucking dungeons. Honestly I don't know what else you'd want, open world areas?
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>Want to play cool looking dragon dude
>Au'ra males are fucking retarded between the birthing hips and stupid ass horns that you can't customize
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>>379147915
>>379147002
Alright, I'm convinced, it should just be blown right away. You'll get into your first Melee rotation in 9 to 10 GCDs depending on procs after popping Manafication, which should let you take advantage of opener buffs.

Not even sure it's going to be worth it to blow CaC/Displacement anyway. Both have a 130 Potency, while all of your spells except for Jolt2 have over that. Depending on clipping, using them might lower your DPS over just casting, and it would delay getting into your real melee rotation for that much longer.
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>>379148298
Ah, a fellow vore/filth fan
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>>379148282
By default tanks aren't much tougher than melee dps. It's all in the cooldowns.
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>>379148290
>especially in creator
Those aren't XIV parses fagioli.
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>>379148282
one pops cds the other doesn't
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>>379147180
oh sorry retard i was talking about procs like firestarter/thunder/MCH procs because they're, you know, actual PROCS instead of abilities you can use at X% hp like mercy stroke and misery's end
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>>379148259
A3S was part of that timeline

Destroyer of statics, good times
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>>379147697
>>379147820
Do I have to be geared too? I'm not some i270 tank that can just meme pulls but thinking for sec I never considered the healer and their gear. Either way with DF healer I can't just pull to the end.
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>>379147915
I suspect you'll put Embolden right before your first melee combo, so that it gives the maximum amount of buff to your most powerful skills + your oGCDs, and it will likely also line up with the buffs from your party members, and the buffs they have given themselves.
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>>379148125
>>379148259
whats this meme here? aurum vale is difficult? I tanked it for the first time with my healer friend who was also doing it for the first time and the 2 dps were also sprouts, we went into every fight blind and didn't read tactics and pretty much made it through with no wipes.
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>>379148382
That was unintended
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>>379148296
Well he should go grind some more AP maybe that'll make him feel better about himself. Chop chop goy gotta get the next gold trait
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>>379148382
considering how many stuck up wanna be hardcore raiders we got since 3.4 i really wish we would get another gordias
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>>379148259

If you make the main parts of the game hard, you turn off the casuals who buy glamshit from the MogStation and pay $13 a month to go /afk in Idyllshire between RP sessions. Good thing there's a robust series of difficult content for veteran and hardcore players to tackle on the side!

Oh wait, it's just the latest Alex Savage or nothing. Oh well. Gotta keep that normie money or the game will cease to function.
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>>379148425
>play the ultra dumbed down Aurum Vale
>it's sooooeasy lol XD
Nigga back then Sow alone would make groups with shitty DPS to run out of time due to how much you'd wipe.
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>>379148160
>>379148147
oh shit thanks, didn't know about the tokens
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>>379148328
You should never have to clip with them, just blow them after the Doublecast.

>>379148403
In general I suspect the rotation will be Manafiction + CaC -> First hit (Embolden) as you need to enter melee range after all. Then again, against a boss you can hump it's not like the CaC will matter.
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>>379148486
They are not that dumb.
I hope.
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>>379148343
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>>379148425

Congratulations, you and your party were not mouth-breathing morons. See if that's true the next time you get it.
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>>379139023
SAM all the way. I've been waiting for this.
>minmaxed to all fuck to have big ass damage but probably the worst utility of the DPS
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>>379148554
Not him but i've done Aurum vale like 10 times, it's been easy every time except for when my shitter friend played. In which case it was still relatively easy, he just died on the first and last boss.
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>>379148547
Why the fuck not? Savage SHOULD be that hard, people were able to beat it so that means the majority of people sucked so much dick and had to whine to get it nerfed
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>>379148550
>You will never have an erp session of a wipe in aurum vale before getting eaten by a malboro as it's raping you
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>>379148282
Actually using tank stance, facing and grouping mobs correctly, dodging aoes (so many tanks just stand in that shit), and of course, cooldowns.

Actually I feel like they patched it so you can block from any direction now so I assume the same applies to parry (outside of Raw Intuition).

So I guess it largely just comes down to casual cooldown usage. Poor/new tanks will always be worried they won't have their cooldowns for situations where they'll really need them, so they don't pop them on trash, even though trash oftentimes hits as hard or harder than a boss does, and is specifically the time healers can do their best DPS due to being better at AOE than single target (generally). Tanks are prone to think bosses are dangerous, trash is trash.
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>mad about SB changes and prunes to SMN
>see RDM gameplay
>mfw
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Are you satisfied with your job changes? Be honest.

As a monk main, my answer is a strongly worded no. I am not happy.
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>379146769
the only saving grace of aurum vale is coincounter. it looks like shit, the pulls are shit and seemingly takes forever because you're one level short of getting your fun skills

WP is fun until you realize there's an upper limit to the number of enemies your aoe can catch. sucks because i got 10 balances there as a BLM once

>the vault
sure it's kind of a heal check (which is still dependent on how much your dps fuck up) but fuck me if it isn't the most linear shit in the game. also literally has a piss filter and a boss with orange effects on an orange background because why the fuck not

ARF only has good graphics
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>>379148619
why do I even wake up?
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>>379148705
BRD is great again and I actually liked bowmage
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>>379148705
t. whm player
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>>379148658
SMN isn't looking that bad anyway. Fucking magical trick attack on Garuda.
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>>379148658
spamming light and dark magic > melee > finisher is not any better than ruin spam > deathflare > bahamut
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>>379148705
I play monk and I really think I have to play it myself to get a better sense of how fast the chakra could potentially build
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>>379148630
I would say blame WoW for pounding that sort of thinking in
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>>379146589
I like how the majority of people say Vault and Fractal respectively for Heavensward, while the ARR ones are a bit more varied. I don't think the other Heavensward dungeons are particularly weak, but man, those two are great.
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>>379148728
It's so fucking hard to find good ffxiv vore, fuck.
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>>379148539
I'd put Embolden before CaC, so it affects CaC and the first hit of your combo. This will probably cause it to hit 16% effectiveness by the time you cast Verholy/Verflare, but the 4% loss is worth getting the 20% boost on CaC/Riposte.
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>>379148598

I ran it my first time as a healer and once I understood how the fruit mechanic worked, it was smooth sailing. If you're tanking and not a fuck-up, then it's easy too. A bad or even slightly sub-par tank makes it hard. Couple that with a bad or sub-par healer and you'll wipe to the first boss 4 times before disbanding, assuming you don't wipe to the first room and get a ragequit.

People leave once they get in there because they don't want to run the risk of having a shitty tank and/or healer when they could spend those 30 minutes of suffering doing just about anything else.
It's a reality check for tanks and healers more than DPS. And the shitty ones make the whole experience unnecessarily bad.
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>>379148705
Same. At least I have good gear for samurai now. Though I'm not gonna touch it until PotD 2.0 comes out/the role distribution balances out.
Tanks and healers all the way for me now.
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>>379148705
Tentative on DRG changes. I mean, BotD/Geirskogul weren't exactly hard to manage as it is, very easy in fact. But I don't think the answer was to make it basically infinite with no worry about how you use Geirskogul.

But I'll refrain from judgement, because maybe the whole Eyes/LotD/Nastrond bit will be more fun than it looks. I think at the very least it won't feel worse, just different.
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>>379142180
Silence and now stun rotations might make a comeback in 4.0 now that they have 0 potency.
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>>379148386
yes if you are fully geared it gets easier on you and the healer, if you know you can pull everything and you've done it before it means you can do it always, but if you dont want to die you should check your healers gear too, i always pull to the end because i know i can, if i die is because healer couldnt keep up or the dps was really bad
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>>379148776
Well it's not like it's WoW's fault, they're just different games. It's the playerbase's fault for never adjusting and realizing they're playing a similar, but still different game.

Though that being said when it comes to raiding I might not mind a change in boss damage output on tanks to be more like the 'you better be precasting fucking constantly' healing I remember from WoW raids.
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>>379148613
It was hard for wrong reasons though.
Anyways is not like a lot of people cleared this tier either. They should really find a way to balance things
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>>379148842
I hated that they gutted DRG's level 60's AoE (Doomspike potency nerfed, Geir on 35 sec CD) firepower so they can add useless shit like Sonic Thrust at 62.
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>>379148807
You only have enough room for 2x oGCDs. Manafiction takes up 1, so I put CaC up there to get you into melee range. I suppose you could also do another round of casting to do Embolden + CaC, but remember that Embolden decays, so it might be best to leave out an oGCD if it gets more power on the big hits.
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>Gonna get monk to 70 and then work on RDM

Fucking 11 days to go lads
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>>379148705
SMN here. Lost AoE but became caster NIN. I can live with this.
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>>379148781
What surprised me is I didn't see not one antitower I love that place to death.
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>>379148613
Savage should be that hard, but only if there's a Hard difficulty that's tuned more like Creator and Coil, and if there are multiple "Hard mode" primals that offer a credible challenge and offer worthwhile loot that can be used to bridge the gap between casual dungeon-only players and the Hard Mode raid, and another set of multiple "Extreme" primals that can bridge the gap between Hard Mode raids and Savage Mode raids.

Good players should have things to challenge them, but so should bad players, and bad players should have challenges that turn them into average players, who have challenges that turn them into good players. Otherwise if you make things that challenge the good players, you just run out of good players due to attrition after maybe a year, at best.

SE's alternate solution is to just remove the ability to be good or bad at the game and make everything one-size-fits-all.
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>>379148769
Keeping black and white magic in balance will be fun

Mindlessly spamming Ruin and using cooldowns when avaliable won't
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>>379145985
>making a flowchart for a job with a priority and proc based rotation

Holy fuckin shit anonerino
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>>379145243
>playing better is casual

Yoshi has even stated if you arent DPSing as a healer you aren't playing to your best and you're just holding back the rest of you and your groups potential. As a player you should always strive to do your best instead of putting arbitrary restrictions on yourselves like children.
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>>379148705
not really
>excog and fey union are clearly meant with cleric stance in mind, so are kinda w/e with healer changes
>broil2 costs almost twice regular broil and will be spammed more since you lose 2 instacast dots that were more mana efficent
>aoe turned to shit with bane nerf, no miasma2 and blizzard2
>aetherflow down to 10% and the new trait sucks ass

stealing some whm cross class and fairy not getting nerfed too hard are really the only saving points, besides chain stratagem
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>>379148956
I'm not very worried about Geirskogul's impact on AoE, and given that a lot of AoE across the board was reduced, I think we got off pretty good if the worst we have to deal with is pressing two buttons instead of one the majority of the time we spend cleaving.
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>>379148105
Any new NPC gear will be Mogstation exclusive, since RPers will eat it up to look 'normal'.
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>>379148705
Monk is not really worse off, but I'm also not really familiar with how much actually greater other classes have become, or what Samurai actually outputs. Can't really argue Riddle of Fire in concept just feels shitty though, and not getting any new attacks is not a particularly pleasant feeling.

If I autism hard enough I might write (and actually get more accurate) sims for each class and compare compositions.
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>>379148705

samurai exists now so i'm happy with that change to my main, i wanted it since 1.0

currently i plan on playing paladin through the MSQ as i've always done, and they look awesome on paper

i understand what monk and whm mains are going through however, played those classes a lot and the changes are pants on head retarded. i hope they're fixed by 4.1 at the latest
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aknKbqUYZ-I

The tank isn't even taking damage and we won't have Cleric Stance and shit to pass our time

Why even play healers
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aurum vale was better in 1.0
come at me


also a throwback
>even synced Chimera instance is now tank n spank
>no need to silence
>no need to pull Chimera out of the cave in case of fuck ups
>fight is over before kiting orbs

The fuck is this, I came back from leaving in 2.2
Rejoined in literally February

This is some serious bullshit
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>>379149162
Because your shit will scale from MND naturally now. Maybe not to the same degree as current Cleric Stance, but enough that there's no reason you shouldn't be doing DPS.
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>>379149126
Don't forget about direct hit
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>>379146589
brayflox NM

brayflox HM

all shit. the vault is just another cookie cutter dungeon with a boss that shits out a bit more damage than usual, and i can't stand the anor londo filter

haven't unlocked all of them
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>>379148705
I main AST, MCH, and BLM.

Very yes. AST=OP, MCH has higher skill ceiling and seems to be a patrician filter now since its the least popular so with the new rotation you can see who is dogshit, and BLM is just gonna be FUN-O-CLOCK
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>>379149162

Healer damage scales off MND, CS is a %damage buff now. Keep DPSing and scaring tanks by letting them get to 10% HP before healing them, friend.
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>>379149228
No real way to know how exactly that'll function till we get our hands on it, so I just ignored it. There's also the distinct possibility that it existing will also mean the critical chance and multiplier functions will be changed, which would more drastically affect Monk's output due to Chakra generation.

However, if it's just plain ol more damage, it wouldn't really help any one class over the others, so it wouldn't be too terribly important to worry about in a comparative sense anyways.
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>>379146589
Dzemael Darkhold
Wanderer's Palace (Hard)
None
None
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>>379149207
Rather than giving more classes Silences, they just removed Silence reliance from any old content and nerfed the fuck out of abilities that can be stunned (such as High Voltage from ADS).
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>>379149126
>Internal Release +30%
>Chain Stratagem +20%
>Battle Litany +15%
>BRD song +2%
>Natural Crit Rate +20%
>Total MNK Crit Rate: 87%
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>>379149460
>Crits get nerfed to be multiplicative instead of additive
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So a friend paid my server transfer to Cactuar from Malboro. My first impression was people seemes nice for 2am Eorzea. But they like ass over tits, wtf. Why did nobosy ever mentioned in these threads Cactuar is also known as "buttuar"?
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>>379146589
Dzemael Darkhold
The Wanderer's Palace (Hard)
The Vault
The Fractal Continuum
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>>379149445

I don't much understand the reason why Silence is still around. A stun will do the same job and is more versatile. If they aren't going to use it like they did in ARR, why is it still here? Why can't I feel good about using Blunt Arrow for its intended use instead of just another OGCD for DPS?
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>>379145186
When you hit 60 just do some Frontlines. They're kind of boring because you'll do the same one map 90% of the time, but the gear you buy is i235 and Accuracy isn't going to matter for much longer (PvP gear has none). Use the tomes to fill in accessories and you'll be 230-235 in no time.
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>>379149573
Because ADS was a mistake.
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>>379148425

A lot of new tanks have troubles with the first room because of the piss pools and wandering mobs that can lead to them pulling more than they attend. Combine that with shitty positioning and it can quickly become a shitshow easily.
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>>379149501
Doubtful, since that would make every +crit skill utter garbage as they currently stand.
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RDM looks really boring.
Is it as boring as pre release media is making it seem?
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>>379149162
>randomly skip to 1:08
that's your future DF samurai lads

>we won't have Cleric Stance
at the end of the day Cleric Stance is a button press. now you can pass your time without pressing it
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>>379149697
>Watching Media people play jobs
Man they could make anything look boring.
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>>379149460
Even with 100% crit rate, you've still only got a 30% chance to generate a Chakra, so it would still take 15 GCDs just to generate a Forbidden Chakra.

The only time you'll get a Forbidden Chakra quickly is with another melee and 2 tanks and using Brotherhood. Between said Brotherhoods... You most likely will only get about 2-3 Chakra with standard crit rate.
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>>379148246
>Hyur
>Special snowflake

Huh? It's the race all the bots play

Besides, nonetheless, the other options are

>Bara faggot race
>ugly ass giraffe neck race
>aylium ass midget race
>fucking upper level weeaboo kawaii catgirls/bois
>edgelord race, second most popular ERP race

Literally if you're not playing a hyur, the chances of you being a fucking faggot go up exponentially
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>>379149501
breh
that'd be even more, do you even math
ill do it in

100% (base)
100% * 1.30 (30%) - 130%
130% * 1.2 (20%) - 156%
156% * 1.15 (15%) - 179%
179% * 1.02 (2%) - 182%
182% * 1.20 (20%) = 219% -- an increase of 119% over the 87%

>>379149662
and he's wrong if I'm being retarded from being tired
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>>379149774
>Besides, nonetheless
Don't do this.
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>>379149697

i'm praying that the melee is more complicated than rush in -> dump melee abilities -> flip out

might as well play blm while auto attacking
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>>379139023
>RDM or SAM?
neither
I'm maining UNW
uninstall wizard
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>>379149814
>i'm praying that the melee is more complicated than rush in -> dump melee abilities -> flip out
That's exactly what it is.
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>>379149697

Only the people who have played it can tell you, and there aren't many of them. Most of us will have to wait until the 16th and the rest will have to wait until the 20th to try it and see.

I'm going to level all three healers first anyway but it'll be the first DPS job I tackle once I finish them.
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>>379149537
Sounds like my kind of server
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>>379149835
it's MSI you twit
uninstall.MSI
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Do you think they will ever add Blitzball? With the swimming in all I figure it's something they've considered.
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>>379149802
He means multiplicative as in, multiplying on your existing crit rate. So if you have 20% natural crit, +30% isn't just 20+30, it's 20 x 1.3.
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>>379149814
they literally have a single 3-part melee combo and a melee AOE skill and that's it. Sorry.
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>>379146589
aurum vale
keeper of the lake
the vault by a mile
none, they're all shit
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>>379149814
That's precisely what it is, because the melee combo into Verholy/Verflare is your burst after building up 80/80+.
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>>379149460
>>379149802
can you even include chain stratagem since it raises crit chance on target instead of raising your own crit chance?

is it just my esl or can you really count that in?
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>>379149537
In what way do we prefer ass over tits? That is not something I am aware of.
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>>379147425
All three healers spend more doing doing damage than healing in 4man content all the way up to 60
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>>379149954
They're trying to figure out how to make it work in an MMO setting but it's being heavily considered
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>>379148705
Um well, what is the point of BLM now if they're not the rawest DPS class anymore? They barely have utility as it is aside from apoc and the mana battery ability they're getting
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>>379149771
Brotherhood procs chakras on all ally weaponskills, not just crits.
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>>379149573
Because they would need to make Stun the new silence and remove the actual Stun debuff since resistance shit.
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>>379149954

think it's something they joked about in the past, but then again we were supposed to have snowboarding by now

i would have preferred that over diadem even if it ended up being a shitty gind minigame like chocobo racing
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>>379150030
So you missed the t-shirt design?
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>>379149774
Hyur are the worst because they're normies. I mean it's final fantasy not final mundane.
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>>379149064
I think the issue is that you just don't have enough stuff on each tier of skill. Compare to WoW, where you have 4 tiers of LFR, Normal, Heroic, and Mythic. FFXIV also has 4 tiers of 24 man, Normal Raid, Extreme Primal, and Savage Raid. Except for current content you have 4 bosses, 4 bosses, 1 boss, 4 bosses. Even with each boss being twice as complicated as a WoW boss it's still 20% less content, with the big kicker being your heroic level (where most players who actually try are at) being 80% less content!

Frankly FFXIV could do with ripping off the M+ system at least to have something interesting to do with dungeons or give us 2-3 Extreme Primals a patch cycle.

I'd make it so that Tomestone gear is at the same level as Normal Raid level gear. Then on the catch up patch you have the 24 man raid drop Normal Raid level gear and then 2 Extreme Primals who drop upgrade equipment for that gear alongside weapons that are the same rank as the Extreme Primal gear. The Primal weapons would be the same level as they effectively are now.

To compare to 3.5, you had Normal Raid at 250, 24 man/Scrip at 260, Extreme Weapons at 265 and Upgraded Scrip/Savage at 270. Under this system you would have Normal Raid/Scrip at 250, Upgraded Scrip/24 man at 260, Extreme Weapons/Upgraded 24 man at 265, and Raid at 270.

The basic idea is that Raids always give the best stuff, but the catchup patches put you in such a place that you are just ever so slightly below and we've removed tomestone grinding as being a way to get BiS gear. Raids would be balanced such that you start them at 250 and end with a few pieces of 260 and 270.
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>>379149756
Yeah but the rotation looks like 1>2/3>if proc 4/5 otherwise 1>2/3 until maxed>melee>6/7 repeat.
It's blm 2.0 tier uninspired.
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>>379150156
No character is more unpleasantly abnormal than the average female hyur RPr. If its a highlander its a futa with a bunch of terrible fetishes, if its a midlander its the worse mary sue bullshit possible.
t. Balmung
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>>379149809
No, i am going inevitably, definitely going to
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Babysit my opinion.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13116641
http://www.strawpoll.me/13116641
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>>379143490
Why would you regret not waiting 3 hours in dungeon queues.
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>>379150024
It's possible that Chain Stratagem might just be x1.2 on each player's actual crit rate. But that's unlikely because it would make Chain Strategem total shit..
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>>379150098
Right, that's why that's the only time you're going to generally get 5 Chakra in a quick fashion, as by average with Brotherhood going your buddies are going to generate you .9 Chakra per GCD they take collectively. Across probably 6 GCDs, you're very likely to have gotten 5 Chakras even if you don't crit once during.

So I guess in a way for 8 man content you can assume Brotherhood is a 5% damage buff for everyone, and a free Forbidden Chakra.
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>>379150256
It's definitely that, that's how all crit buffs work.
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>>379142180
I mained SMN in coil. I can confirm. Turn 2 I was always benched for a bard.Then they would like me again for t4 and 5
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>>379150030
I was speaking with native cactuarers, and they told me Cactuar was an ass server who prefered Rei over Asuka and Ass over Tits.
Also someone mentioned liking penises, but I just assumed they were a Fairie/Balmung fag who transfered over.
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>>379150251
Why are so many DRGfags on /v/?
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>>379150317
No, all crit buffs are just a direct addition on your crit rate. If you have 20% Crit and you pop a 20% crit buff, your crit rate becomes 20+20 = 40% crit. It's NOT 20*1.2 = 24% crit rate.
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>>379146214
Personally I felt HW Hildibrand was really weak compared to ARR Hildibrand. There's not much mystery element, it's mostly just Hildy and co. making silly faces and saying dumb things. Hildibrand needs grounded people to offset how off-the-wall and ridiculous he is, and Inspector Briarbrand and the reporter girl really helped in that regard. That being said, Cyr was an entertaining character and I liked how he found some character development.

Vivi had much less character than Gilgamesh did. He's a simple minded child and not much else, who is very easily swayed back and forth. The villains were also pretty weak, though they had their amusing moments.

It was also much shorter than ARR Hildibrand. ARR's Hildibrand questlines were like entire episodes, each one their own little arc. HW's Hildibrand was all a single arc, spread out over three patches.

I hope SB Hild is better.
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>>379150251
need a fifth for ur a fagit
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>>379150387
DRG is like, the iconic FF class, anon.
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>>379150357
Cactuar has an active fag community actually.
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>>379150387
i voted drg so he gets stuck with drg leveling since hes a weak willed pussy who needs others to choose for him
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>>379150387
It's the best job, didn't you hear?
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>>379142180
>Landslide
>Divebombs
>300ms internal lag
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>>379150442
Healer is the better choice for a dps expansion.
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>>379150414
dumbed down jobs, dumbed down dungeons, dumbed down quests
please look forward to it
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>>379150414

it was just supposed to be the scholasticate side quests for heavensward, but they phoned in hildy 'cause of player demand

i feel like both quest lines may have suffered for it. scholasticate was interesting in its own right but not very fleshed out
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>>379150405
Oh, sorry, that's what I mean. Chain Strat is going to function like all the rest of them
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>>379150414
I actually dropped the HW Hildibrand quests because they stopped being entertaining. It felt like they were trying too hard and injecting too much japanese slapstick. I realise that's a dumb thing to say since this IS a japanese MMO, but too much of one thing spoils the appetite.
I hope Hildibrand quests don't actually come back in SB.
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>>379150254
Questing as healer is a pain.
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>>379150512
>tfw get hit by divebomb because of t3 networking and get forced into the cuck crater
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>>379150568
I liked Ishgard high nonetheless. The game needs more daily lives of NPCs content.
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>>379150464
Fuck really? Are they vocal in Idyllshire? Or is it like Malboro where Shire ia mostly a "lol random chats and Raid hub."?
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>>379148705
New smn doesn't look fun at all. Bahamut is neat but the rotation is so simplified now I'm gonna be bored playing it. Probably gonna play rdm instead
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>>379150603

Just go SCH, Eos/Selene will heal you while you sit in CS and DPS.
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>>379149126
Monk is literally dumpster tier right now.
Can't believe that the rotation is still literally the same that it was in 2.0 aside from two ogcd's
>>
daily reminder the community and even Yoshi P himself loves and respects MrHappy more than you
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>>379150685
The generally stick to their linkshells but sometimes it spills over.
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>>379150706
I'd rather play AST instead of SCH. AST armor looks so much better and I like playing with cards.
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>>379150405
>>379150587
i really hope so too, but i'm actually scared of square being square
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>>379150735
That's probably true.
>>
>>379150680
Why is it that SE makes cuter Elezen than the majority of players
>>
>>379150251
I don't think she'd fuck a healer, m8.
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>>379150735

i can forgive yoship, he claims he isn't a genius
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>>379150223
Excuse me, i'm not a mary sue, Im a racist that secretly wish to gt raped by cats
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>>379150735
Does mrhappy loves himself, though?
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>>379150735
i would respect that talentless shitter too if he actually realized overheating gauss barrel would increase your dps by 20% instead of reducing it like the wrong tooltip said, since it's his main job
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>>379150706
>sit in CS
anon...
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>>379143490
Do you have a tank bull to pal with or a DPSbeta to cuck into being your obedient servant?
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>>379150593
You're not missing much frankly. From the moment Hildibrand pulls Vivi out of the ground until the moment his mother punts him into the air to finish the questline, it's nothing but bad jokes and japanese slapstick. Last episode is like an episode of the three stooges with old people.

They try to hammer in some sappy story about Vivi being insecure about not being human and quickly drop it because he gets over it. They try to hammer in a sappy story about Vivi's creator realizing the only way Vivi could be happy is if he gave up his attempts at a second youth, but it wasn't very strong.

If agree; if Hildibrand comes back for SB they need to do it right or not at all.
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>54
So fucking SICK of dungeons.
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>>379150816
No way, look at how fat he is.
>>
Anyone here actually play a female highlander? How is it?
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>>379150146
Yeah I apparently did. I've just been sitting in Gridania looking at sprouts for days.

>>379150357
Well, liking penis is not inherently Balmung, it's the act of volunteering that information completely unprompted that's Balmung. Pretty sure we have a few 'LGBBQ' FCs around, though I don't really know anyone from them. They don't seem overly annoying.
>>
Here is the official sb melee dps rankings
NIN>SAM>DRG>power gap>WAR>

MNK does not make it into the rankings due to below below average usefulness and overall enjoyment
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>>379150848
>59 AST for 4 days
>literally just doing the trial roulette for a month now
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>>379150852
Happy could probably break your spine like Bane and record a guide on how to do it for all his fans

Don't confuse his bulk for fat he's ripped
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>>379150868
Kek
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>>379150834

If he's doing it now, then yes, he will sit in Cleric Stance and let the fairy work while he kills shit. You can memearrow people who say that post-SB.
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>>379150973
>and record a guide on how to do it for all his fans

How long would that guide be though?
>>
Was gonna play SAM, but RDM looks too cool.
>>
>>379151069
About twice as long as needed and about a fourth of the info would be incorrect.
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>>379150846
they already had no intentions of doing more hildy stuff and they only made more stuff since this shit community loves le funny faces guy

the quality dropped insanely since arr quests, and you can feel it they are jus dragging it on instead of actually developing an interesting story over the expansion
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"Wooow, you did all this amazing stuff again?! You're the bestest friend a kitten could have, like, ever! I'll be able to make so many super fun stories, Kebbe will be so happy!" Khloe Aliapoh exclaimed with much excitement, the kitten bounding around her stall to gather and arrange items for your reward.

You stand before the stall smiling, her cute display already a nice reward.

"An amazing, bestest friend like you deserves something extra special like...like...hmmm." Khloe started rummaging around in her bag, her tongue sticking out as she focused on rummaging. "Hmmm..." Khloe furrowed her small brow and repeatedly took out and put items back in, unable to decide.

"How about a kiss?" You joke, not particularly impressed by what was on offer this week. Naturally it wasn't the litte catgirl's fault, that was down to Rowena. You always seemed to get the crappy rewards when you got all three lines...

Khloe stopped and placed a small hand on her chin, seriously giving it some thought. "Ok, but only because you're Khloe's super special friend!"

"Really? Really really?" You're taken aback, not expecting her to even seriously consider, let alone agree. Though you'd gladly take the opportunity.

"Ok, close your eyes." Khloe commanded and you duely obliged, shutting your eyes and leaning your head down.

Expecting only a small kiss on the cheek or head, you find yourself freezing stiff as you feel her tiny, soft lips touch yours for a few seconds before she pulls back, a blush and miscevious look on her cute face.

You can feel the eyes of a number of people nearby burning into you. You sheepishly look up and place a hand on the back of your head, trying to laugh it off. Looking around, you see a combination of raised eyebrows, looks of disgusted and even a few glares of jealousy.
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>>379151121
CRINGE
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>>379150680
Blaisie is cute, CUTE!
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>>379151121
back to ye containment thread yea verily.
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>>379150680
I want social links with the Scions. We're supposed to be friends but it feels like we barely know them.
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>>379151121

Christ, this has to be written by someone who gets A's on English papers in high school so they think they're good enough to write novels.
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>>379151119
I think that just reflects the wider decline in writing in the game overall

They pulled pretty much every punch possible. There was of course Haurchefant but let's be honest, him living or dying would have made absolutely no difference as far as the story itself goes. And Papalymo is so irrelevant I nearly forgot about him before making this post.
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>>379151121
FILTHY RAT
>>
>>379151148
I don't know what do you expect from this fanbase
I'd say this is pretty soft compared to everything ive seen
>>
>>379151256
You're not friends, you're coworkers. Think of how the Adventurer's Guild treated you during the fucking Valentine's event.
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>>379151263
Sounds very specific

Are you a failed writer?
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>>379139994
I only ever see this shit posted on plebbit.

I suspect they make it with friends for upboats
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>>379151108
You mean "about a fourth of the info would be correct" right?
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>>379150646
>tfw 50% health BLM getting targeted by the 5+ fireballs in phase 2
send help
>>
>>379151362
Nah, it's mostly right with just enough mistakes to fuck over the people who can't think for themselves and have to follow the guide to the letter.
>>
>>379151301
I feel you on that.
>lol yda has been dead for years my real name is lyse! sorry for lying to you all this time
like, okay? this doesn't really change anything, the player character has never met the real yda so all this boils down to is an arbitrary name change

boy I can't wait to see what other crazy twists await us in SB itself
>>
>>379150171
The way that they did things in early 2.x would have been a good way to handle things, I think.

If they changed the current "Hard Mode" primals to "Story Mode", changed the current "Extreme Mode" primals to "Hard Mode", and then introduced a new, Thordan-level "Extreme" difficulty for them (like they did with Ifrit/Titan/Garuda), that would let them have the entry-level "Hard Mode" fights that would be a challenge for new/low-skill players, but also reward them with decent weapons and loot, and also have the "Extreme Mode" fights which could exist somewhere between the difficulty levels of Creator and Gordias/Midas, and could have loot setups like the original three Extremes, that let you fill out your right-side with raid-level gear, and a weekly shot at a raid-level weapon.


Then if they actually managed to make the raids into Normal (same as now)/Hard (same as Creator Savage)/Savage (same as Gordias/Midas Savage) they'd have a pretty good spread of difficulty levels and challenges for players at every step of the skill spectrum, without imposing anything ridiculous on the devs like "Oh, just go make 3x as many art assets in every patch, EZ". They wouldn't even need an iLevel bump for the Savage raids either, I don't think - just have them award tokens that you can use to make your Hard Mode raid gear dyable with customized secondaries.
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>>379151356
Feels good reading this with how much logs of shitters you see posted
>>
>>379151351

I was once of the mind that I could write novels because I got perfect marks on English essays all throughout grade school, yes. Then I actually sat down to write my magnum opus and realized I was but a babby who couldn't even begin to describe what was in my head without sounding like a twat. It was a great learning experience.
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>>379150680
>>379150778
>>379151164
>tfw no qt giraffe gf
End me
>>
>Have literally everything at 60
>Nothing to do stuff with come Stormblood
>Ultros sucks dick but am stuck there cause i'm not paying for a transfer

Here's to another year of leveling solo
>>
New thread

>>379151471
>>379151471
>>379151471
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>>379151256
You have no friends. You're everyone's mule.
>>
>>379151581
Let it get to the bump limit at least, fuckboy.
>>
>>379151569
Meant to say nobody to do stuff with
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>>379151301
>>379151510
i work for square, here is the plot twist
>nero will join us and sell us out to the empire to get fame and recognition
>it was all a ruse to help you achieve x objective
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>>379151510
There were so many times I was thinking in the story; "shit that person died? How sad." and then lol nop the horrible rage filled super dragon merely poked Vifonair with his spear to "send a message"
>>
Is this the only game that needs to have another thread outside of /vg/?
>b-but the erpers
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>>379151581

We aren't at the bump limit and you make a new thread with fucking frogposting and a stupid lel wat wud u do if x happened 2 u??? question.

Please stop posting forever.
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>>379151701
Persona, Risk of Rain, Overwatch

Just for a starter.
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>>379142180
>the demon wall boss in amdapor was actualy considered hard and many times parties would disband here
>they nerfed it hard later
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>>379151560
Do you still write? I've always wanted to write or at least improve it anyway
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>>379151650

I want Nero to be the powerful NPC ally I deserve. Make it happen, SE. No more nation-state leaders treating me like a pest eradication service, no more Scions using me as hired muscle, no more people dragging me into their bullshit and telling me to sort it out for them.

I want to take a tour of Garelmand with Nero as my guide and have bro adventures and leave Eorzea to figure its own shit out.
>>
>>379151554
>>379151356
Anyone got any other screencaps of newbies going against the retard-grain?
>>
>>379148705
mch
i don't know how annoying overheating will be
>>
>>379148842
New DRG is actually looking like it will be very strong though. I mean yes there's no geir balancing now but you still have to build botd up to 30secs before activating lotd. Not to mention that every jump gets literally 200 potency tacked on the end every time now.
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>>379148705
AST
I feel too powerful already!
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>>379152017
>but you still have to build botd up to 30secs before activating lotd
Literally non issue with back to back Fang and Wheeling though.
>>
>>379151581
Okay this thread was made early and is already fucked, just delete it, try again. Redeem yourself.
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>>379150871
>NIN>SAM>DRG>power gap>WAR

Haha you still think WAR is going to beat PLD or even DRK
>>
>>379151808

I don't do long-form much any more outside of essays for university. Sometimes I write short little blurbs about things that happen to me, but it's hard for me to feel inspired to write creatively lately. I'm always trying to improve the clarity of my ideas though. If I can get my idea across succinctly and effectively, then I don't need to write the same thing three slightly different ways in three different sentences.

Try editing your posts as you write them to see if you're communicating clearly. It takes you longer to write them but you'll realise you can cut out a lot of bloat by getting rid of excess information.

I wish the guys writing FF tried to do this too, holy mother of god am I tired of paragraphs of repetitive information.
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>>379152101
Yes but I bet we'll still see shitters dropping botd
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>qeue in roulete
>3 french fags

send help.
>>
Who ready to summon bahamut here
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>check plebbit
>guy crying about getting scammed
>swapping his house on gilga
>other party just steal his house and spam emotes
>scammer was a lala
>>
>>379152503
Against the ToS to arrange selling a house anyways.
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>>379146589
Haukke Manor
Snowcloak
The vault
Gubal Hard
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>>379152531
If it's the same guy has last thread, he was trading his house for a FC house in the thanalan Area because his neighbor wanted his house for his GF.
>>
>>379152015
>I don't know how annoying a 20% damage boost will be
>>
>>379148705
Clearly not happy with the Bane nerf.
But at the same time we got a better battle litany and a auto lustrate.
It's pretty cool.
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>tfw returning player bonus
>decide to join the Nov Network just so I have someone to chat too since my FC got rid of me
>the retarded annoying mentors from back when I was a sprout are apparently gone
>the ones that have replaced them are all pretty normie, but they're fun and nice people to chat to
>find myself playing more than I intended too when I resubbed
>hanging around havin chats n shit, racing chocobos
>suddenly
>Crownsprout icon vanishes
>Your returned player bonus has expired
>"you have left the novice network"

and yeah now im all alone again

/endblog
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>>379153657
Bane nerf was a mistranslation. It got bumped from 40% on 4+ targets to 20% on other targets due to there being 2 DoTs now instead of 3.
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>>379153786
Was the Japanese tooltip on the famitsu pages a mistranslation too?
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>>379153760
Time to work on becoming a mentor.
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