Nioh

it wasnt good enough to overcome souls-fatigue

>>379132390
Unlike Dark souls PVP oriented end game and Cryptic as fuck lack of story.
Nioh's PVP isn't really great and the story is just a glorified history lesson.

So nothing to discuss until new details on DLC/
The game is by no means bad. Just was little there is to talk about has been done to death.

Shitty souls clone with no identity of its own

Not much to talk about a chinese bootleg souls game

garbage Dark Souls clone only PScucks care about

why do you make this thread every day?

why is important for a game to be "discussed"(shitposted about) for months after release?

diablo mixed with soulsbourne type combat

and practically unbalanced as fuck with shitty pvp

>>379132543
It wasn't even a souls-fatigue thing for me, it was that the combat was legitimately the only thing it had going for it, and even that has a handful of issues.

It was fun for two hours

Not a whole lot to discuss. Had better combat than any soulsborne game but that's about it.

its pvp isn't as good (lol), and the lack of build diversity kind of hurts it. Most players will have a 1 kat / spear build, and those that don't just have a 2 kat / spear or kusari / spear, spear is just too good and doesn't require much investment for what it offers, as everyone gets at least a little body

that said its still a great game, just doesn't have the same legs souls does

because it's not a game /v/ can understand and there is no criticism left to talk about

the amount of "soulsborne" posts in this thread already is indicative of that

>>379132390
I liked the OST especially tachibana muneshige's

It was kinda eh. You know, like most of Koei's games. It was very Japanese.

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What happened to this game? Why is no one talking about it anymore?

it's a singleplayer game that is only good for the gameplay, there's nothing to discuss after 4 months

>>379133059
>i love fakeweeb jap shit like purse owner but not games that actually have anything to do with japan

Discount ninja gaiden without a jump button

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>>379132390
Haven't finished yet (I just unlocked the sixth region after killing a giant skeleton), but I really really like it. It's a great action game and my GOTY so far.
My only complains are the lack of enemies in the levels (I'm not talking about variety; I'm talking about the levels being kinda barebones at times, a sin Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne are guilt too at times) and the bosses being hit-and-miss.

It's unfair to call it a Souls clone given how except for a couple borrowed mechanics it's pretty much its own thing.

>>379133109
It was shit.

>>379132390
it's okay but doesn't have any of the wonder that the Souls games have

>>379133139

Ancient Japan is just a very boring setting. Woohoo Im a Samurai. Wow very deep.

Games like Nier on the otherhand presents a more though provoking atmosphere thats worthy of years of discussion.

>>379133269
you mean the Souls GAME had
everything after DaS is a cheap phoned in cashgrab

>>379132390
Would /v/ recommend this or Yakuza 0?

Great game that could feel slightly repetitive. Definitely worth it for pcbros buying a bloodborne machine.

>>379133365
>dude apocalyptic broken down cities epic!!

>>379133398
they aren't even remotely similar, so choose the one that looks more fun to you right now

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>>379133365
>Worthy of years of discussion

>>379133225
You're shit!

>>379133375

Except that every Souls game still warranted months of discussion. This one however was just a one time romp before you move on to the next forgettable koei game.

>>379133365
Pppffffftttt kek

>>379133518
go ahead and look at any archived souls thread in the last 8 years and tell me there is any decent discussion to be found

>>379133518
>Except that every Souls game still warranted months of discussion
If lore masturbation is your idea of videogame discussion, yeah.

>>379133473

Deep games will get discussed for decades.

This will not. Its a fucking story about an irish samurai. What else is there to talk about? Its simple power fantasy for white people courtesy of the elevens

it's a good game but not a good as bloodborne or dark souls.

Nobody remade the general and everyone is too lazy.

It has better bosses than Souls, better voice acting, better combat, better animations, and better everything overall.
It and Bloodborne are about equal.

It's not being held up by mountains of needless shitposting like soulsdrones did with their babbies first "action" game for years on end.

It's a video game, nothing more, nothing less. Fans of it will never tell you any different

>>379132990
there was a big balance patch though

and spear isnt really that good

>>379133671

It is. People are discussing things. Now look over every Nioh thread by comparison. The only guys who stick around to talk things are guys who play games like Samurai Warriors because history is more interesting to talk about than this games very simple plot.

>>379133867
Asian lore is completely lost to westerners

>video games aren't good unless they're shitposted on /v/

>>379133109
Just
Fuck
My
Ears
UP!
https://youtu.be/WGJbuHUbw8k

>>379133867
No they weren't you stupid fucking newfag they were full of waifu posting and everyone jerking off over Tome, moronic fucking neogaffer.

>>379132390
i played about 120 hours and had a good time?

>>379134014
and how is that different from any other thread on this site?

Most pure action games simply have no legs for long time discussion.

For example, look at every Platinum game. Theyre hyped on announcement, but after a week of release, no one talks about it anymore. See Bayonetta, Vanquish, and mgrr. The same would happen too with dmc5

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Because it was incomprehensible dogshit. I never beat the Bird boss and have no desire to ever play it again.

>>379132390
It lacks longevity in a lot of areas. The combat is fun and varied enough for a first playthrough, but unless you're taking the time to swap between weapon types to switch up your playstyle pretty often then it becomes kinda routine. Once you fine your weapon's go-to combo, you really don't need to do anything else unless you feel like being stylish. Plus, it's not really viable to swap between weapons once you hit later game and NG+. By that point you should be trying to upgrade a divine as high as possible.
Lack of enemy variation has been talked about to death, but it's still a very valid criticism.
Personally, what kills replayability most is the fact that it's level-based rather than each continent being big, interconnected maps. I would have preferred that to picking through missions I like enough to play again.

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>>379134134
did you make the most perfect weapon ever yet?

>>379134134

Are you asking a question? Fucking retard.

>>379134171
Good job blowing your own point's asshole in, you'll catch up in a moment captain chromosome.

>>379134173
t. conquered

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>>379134173
>Bird boss
>He got rekt by a NORMAL enemy

>>379134235
i'm saving my sociopathic min-max playthrough for when all 3 DLC are out

>>379133867
>People are discussing things
Make-believe things only barely related to the game itself

>"This broken sword's item description says that during the first age of the second sage of the third age of the four age the god of farts used the completed sword to clean his anus. According to (youtuber A), it means that everyone who holds the Dark Souls is cursed to clean his or her anus with metallic instruments? What do you think?"
>500 autistic replies

I'm convinced Soulsdrones don't really like action / adverture / RPG videogames in the fist place.

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>>379134173
>boss

>>379134254
not even the same person angry autist
hop along back to /dsg/ to have your le epic discussion of yuria's feet and fuckingg firekeepers

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>>379132390
It was great but it got repetitive quickly because most of its scenery was traditional old japanese towns/architecture and mountains and diablo loot systems are absolute dog-shit, plus I wasnt good enough to get gracefully crazy with my combos.

>>379134316
I think most players wont even use Flux properly in Nioh

>>379134316
Bloodborne was the only one with good lore anyway.

>>379134182
>"This game isn't a 1:1 Souls clone so it's shit"

Go play Dark Souls then, fag.

The game just didnt have an identity. I want more original settings.

>>379134247
it communicates an upward inflection, which implies an unspoken question. this is not an abstruse device?

>>379134382
most souls players didn't even bother comboing
they all just hit light attack once then dash away and repeat that then complain enemies are too tanky

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>>379134271
>>379134337
I'll be patient with you, since you have autism and are talking to yourself. The second boss is a bird lady.

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>there are people who havent unlocked all the waifus
>>379134603
>mistakes a bird from a bat


good lord.

The loot system is boring and atorocious, and really screwed over the longevity of the game.

Non random Armor sets would have been way better at least

>>379134603
bats aren't birds
also that's even more pathetic because she's way before the bird enemies we thought you meant

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>>379134603
She's a bat you stupid fucking baboon nigger, and she becomes incredibly easy once you know her patterns.
Umi Bozu is a billion times harder and for bullshit reasons.

>>379134696
Why are the females so ridiculously expensive compared to the male ones?

>>379134603
She's a bat, dude

>>379134696

You can play as girls in this? Neat. Might buy it in the future then.

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>>379134785

>>379134768
Umi Bozu is easy if you use what the game gives you instead of facetanking him

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>>379134747
>>379134768
>>379134807
>he's talking to himself again

>>379132390
I just play it a lot. It's not really something I feel the need to talk about. Plus earlier threads had too much shitposting.

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>>379134785
>>379134785
gotta earn em through MORTAL COMBAT I mean pvp

pvp only needs two fixes to be balanced

a nerf to sign of cross, and the lock on to weakness mod from the saika set to be disabled

that is it

>>379134747
You talk big but it was pretty common for her to get complaints from all the nerds that didnt know about shuriken or the parry back when the game was new.

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>>379134886
>tumblr_

>>379132390
Because there's nothing anyone can latch onto to shitpost about yet and the fanbase isn't obnoxious enough to constantly spam it on /v/. I'm actually surprised at how well this game came and went here usually something as hyped as this would've been shitposting fodder for years.

>>379134557

Stupid time to use that. A statement was made, not a question.

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>>379134942
>Real pvp finally came out
Looks like I havent been keeping up

>>379134994
back then I just muscled through and won through my skill

shes still pretty hard especially in WoTD where every single one of her attacks causes paralize now

>>379134994
didn't say she wasn't difficult on the first go
just pathetic he quit an hour into the game then pretends to have any opinions

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>>379135098
note do not go into pvp until you've got a decent build by after WoTD

though I got to AAA+ with a level 250 build

gear >>>>>>>>>>> level

This thread reminds me how close-minded /v/ is.
Basically, if a game isn't a perfect copy of any of the Soulsborne games (and even Bloodborne itself is a victim of not being "not Dark Souls enough"), it's garbage. All of your complains are silly and nonsensical. Nioh is Nioh. Dark Souls is Dark Souls.

It's not even close-mindedness. It's some weird fanaticism over a particular game that keeps people from playing or even enjoying other things.

You know, I think I'm done. I will never try to discuss Nioh (or other action game) here again. Neither as an OP or as someone replying to a thread like this one. It's for the best.

>>379132390
I'll probably pick it back up again when the next dlc comes out, can't be bothered farming and reforging for a build for hours only for it to get nerfed to shit

>>379135305
Ok

>>379135339
spot the kursari gama user

>>379135305

Because Dark Souls set the standard. See Surge and Code Vein. If it isnt made by From Software, no one is going to talk a out it. It has credence too since every other game just doesnt have that unique touch like Soulsborne games do. They just feel generic and uninspired.

>>379135305
ok

>>379132390
I beat it.
Plus there aren't that many variations of builds in that game, so there's no real reason to play it again until the DLC

>>379135305
true, it's not even worth discussing or defending it with these people. they don't even care about the game, they just want drama and tortanics because it's le epic

The game is just a more actiony history lesson. Kinda like what 13 year olds would have thought would thought would be a fun way to learn about Oda Nobunagas exploits than listen to his monotone teacher read about it in a book for an hour.

Theres nothing much to theorycraft beyond that.

>>379135497
Demons Souls set the standard, Dark Souls piggybacked off its success and got wildly popular as a fluke.

>>379132776
NEVER
EVER

>>379133945
Why would that be? You're a pretentious idiot.

>>379133993

no, this is next level music

>>379135880
don't expect v/pcmasterrace to know that
to most people here video games didn't exist until dark souls pc port

>>379136071

>implying Dark Souls didnt invent gaming

Fool. Everyone knows that games are copied from Dark Souls. Which is why everything is a Dark Souls of X. Nioh is simply the Dark Souls of the samurai gaiden genre

>>379133109

>developer: From Software

huh

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note the females generally have different animations, or adjusted animations to make up for their lack of Shoulders and have their own voices

>>379136603

How do you unlock them? Asking for a friend

>>379136940
70k glory

>>379136940
just buy ps+ goy

>>379133172
jumping is unnecessary anyway

I'm at Yamato no Orochi right now and I honestly feel like I'm underleveled or some shit.

The fight feels way too long.

Granted I've only tried twice.

>>379137025
you can buy 1 easily by farming revenants for a while

>>379137087
how is your gear?

>>379137087
Every giant boss fight in the game sucks, so don't feel bad about it.

>>379137138
I know

>>379132390
It was a mediocre piece of shit that was forgotten after two weeks of release. the only reason people raved about it until it came out was because it was exclusive.

>>379137025
dunno why people wont buy PSN+ at this point if they havent at this point being the big goys they are

>>379137191

Basically six piece Red Demon all in the mid 140's and a 146 sword. Build is all over the place obviously as a first playthrough to try things, but have have 39 in heart.

>>379136940
Honestly only took me two nights of PvP to get enough for Ginchiyo. I was lvl 70 at the time using lvl 100 gear.

>>379137194
The giant boss fights are about the only downside in the game outside of minor nitpicks, they all just become extremely tedious and not really difficult but just take forever to fight, like Gasha-Dokuro.

I hope we hear more about the next DLC soon, because it'd be nice to see maybe a new ranged weapon.

>>379137643
to be fair, there isnt very many giant boss fights that are good in action games

>>379137532
isnt the max level for gear around 150 by then?

>>379137643

The giant bosses are your only comlaint? Not the reused enemies and bosses in every sub and main mission?

I legit had no clue why I had to even bother fighting those four old bosses before Oda. Just seems like a way to pad the game length.

>>379132390
I want ninja gaiden with the original creator back.

Not DUDE LE DARK SOULS LMAO DARK SOULS DARK SOULS!! GUYS DARK SOULS X3

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mfw 1million glory

TODO faction is op, it makes stamina the #1 stat

>>379137843

Why do you post like that?

>>379137893
hes lost it jim

>>379137884
Contributed 75k two weeks and only got 9k back in the clan battle.

Only did a few hundred this past week, probably ain't getting shit

>>379137893
Because dark souls next to open world is the shittiest thing to happen in gaming and its why ive yet to buy any new consoles or games this generation

>>379137984
pvp bumps glory numbers pretty high

>>379137829
I don't really have a problem with "reused" enemies because what the fuck else are you supposed to be fighting? We're staying in essentially one central area against demons and humans. The DLC added some more Yokai and it would be nice to maybe see them spread around the normal levels or something but that was a complaint I never really understood.

The 4 boss rush on that level was kind of dumb though, but it makes for a great farming spot.

>>379132390

Loved the game but honestly it's a little forgettable

>>379137995

I don't really care about your diary, sport. I was just nicely criticizing the vacuous, meaningless nature of your post.

>>379138170
>one sentence
>diary

The last book you must have read is cat in the hat

>>379138396

Still whining?

>>379138165
the 5 original masters is better for leveling up the + levels from devise

>>379138651
I haven't really started into the "powerleveling" thing yet, but when I looked a little while back I saw tons of videos of people running that one 4 boss area.

I think I know what you're talking about for the former part, but what do you mean about levels from devise?

>>379138880
phone posting but divine crap has extra + levels when you combine them with the same or higher +levels

I got bored at the giant boss fight, and then other games started coming out. There wasn't enough enemy variety to support the length of the game. Just find one winning combo and rinse+repeat.

Should I go back and finish it?

>>379139201
fight the greatest opponent other players

shitposter after shitposter

>>379139465
envy is a sin, however these people dont know

Is it just me or is the ninja castle fucking bullshit?

Health regen on the ninja yokai is retarded goddamn

>>379140391
have you been upgrading your gear?

>>379140391
Is that the one where they get hand cannons too?

It was pretty retarded yeah, I kind of wish hitting their horns weren't so weird sometimes.

>>379140568
I find the handcannon ones easier though, they're easier to open up if you force them to fire

>>379140562
Yeah, I can take care of most other enemies just fine. The normal yokai with regen are annoying, but I can be more aggressive and succeed. Ninja yokai on the other hand, I can't seem to find the right time to press the attack on them.

>>379140676
I don't think so unless it's later in the level. It's the first time you go to the ninja castle

>>379140764
oh THOSE regen

they're linked to crystals which you can see on your radar

if you pop those, you kill them instantly

I rushed to finish it before Zelda and P5 came out, waiting on thinking about the DLC since there are more games to try instead.
It was fun. Am I a pleb for using the Phoenix living weapon?

>>379132390
>hp sponge enemies
>retarded stamina management
>no movesets on weapons
>bad bosses with too much hp
>only like 3 enemies
>boring japan setting
>no lore on items
>shit heal system
>way too much stat garbage that literally nobody understands
>lots of pointless mechanics
>too much menus
>no level up waifu
cause it was shit

>>379140824
naw if you can find the build on your own its fine

>>379140823
Yeah, I caught that from the previous ice level but the way the level is designed, it puts the enemies in the way to the crystal. I've unlocked a couple shortcuts so far, but haven't been able to reach one of the crystals before getting fucked. Is it better to just run past everything and rush the crystals?

>>379140824
Eh, not really. I forget to use my living weapon a lot and having it sit in the back as a "second chance" cast is pretty nice. There are obviously better options though but you can't really fault the Phoenix especially when it also gives you more Amrita when active.

>>379140951
its possible, but I've always been able to over power them when I tried with muh Iai

>>379140951
They will instantly drop the second the crystal gets destroyed, so if you can manage to do enough damage to kill it, then yeah, you can pretty much just rush it.

>>379137843
>le ebin cokie monster is GOD XDDD post

Here comes that faggot that spends more time shitposting about video games on the internet than playing them. He's done nothing but garbage since and the series is doing well without him.

The game was great first playthrough
NG+ was artifical difficulty, min-max annoying shit with masochistic boss rushes that you need to cheese to beat
New runs aren't as good as souls because different ""builds"" are really just the same one build and you can already respec infinite times so theres no point

Ergo what's there to talk about?

>>379142552
its honestly not that hard though

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>>379132390
Because it was incredibly mediocre and the biggest letdown of the year.

Everyone wanted a mix of Onimusha and Ninja Gaiden with some Souls mechanics in the background, it tuned out to be nothing but a souls clone with no enemy and environment variety and an out of place Diablo loot system.

The story and characters are just plain forgettable, the soundtrack is generic as crap, literally only the start menu is memorable. The combat also doesn't feel right, animations are alright but the sound effects are really bad and weird, enemy feedback when getting hit is also very unsatisfying and the loot piñata effect when they die and the soul (XD) absorption just make it worse.

This game had the potential to be something great but it didn't even come close to living up to it. Though I'm sure it netted them a lot of sales, the beta was a mistake and it led to them sacrificing some of it's unique features to appeal to the shit eating Souls faggots.

>>379143078
-t guy who never went through WoTD

>>379132390
The mechanics are fine but it's severely lacking in variety when it comes to enemies and levels. Like, it's really bad. And the DLC is absolutely awful.

>>379132390
It was the dev's pants-on-head patching habits that caused me to lose interest. From the first patch the one thing they've done I could get on board with was nerfing sloth and extraction, and the way they nerfed extraction destroyed any point there was in using the guardian spirit that is supposed to be your reward for finishing the story.
Got back into it again for a bit recently, but this latest patch reminded me exactly why I lost interest. They made Odaichi and Axes faster... why? The whole point of them is they're supposed to be slow. If they're underpowered or underused, give them more damage and ki damage, don't remove their drawback.
Added two PVP stages. Great. But they stripped two out as well? Why? If there was problems with them, fix the problems, don't fucking remove them. Oh, and the dojo stage is limited to the most boring part of the stage now.
All of that and they didn't even fix the one that that really needed it: Kunaispam builds.

>>379143143
You want to try that again but with some actual arguments this time?

You worthless faggot.

>>379132390
just speaking for myself, after playing every one of the open beta's i'd basically already sunk as much time playing the game that it would to beat the full game, had messed around with every weapon style and most magic+ninja tools. they fucked up by satisfying me before the full game even came out

>>379143427
how bout you make a worthwhile post first fag

>>379143298
What? Axes had two skills, not even attacks, made faster, and the Odachi didn't even get faster, just able to move out of animation quicker for some attacks and have a longer hitbox. Also previous patch nerfed Thrown weapons pretty heavily for Revenants/PVP as far as I can tell.

>>379143512
Yeah, that's what i thought. Fucking kill yourself you mindless reply bot.

>>379143801
Always a bitch little cunt

>>379143564
not to mention said attacks are pretty good the way they are now

>>379143438
No, they fucked up by not having there be any more to the game besides the demo. Everyone thought it was an appetizer, not literally the main course.

>>379132390
Like every single player game, once everyone done with it, discussion die down.

>>379132841
this
game is great , fight system is one of the best in any game i've played , story is juz history + fantasy , dlc added what we wanted , so untill next dlc announcement we wont have anyting to talk about

>>379143915
then why not complete everything speedy if you know mastered the betas

>no confusing lore
>level are straightforward
>no builds
>only 4 weapon types
there goes 70% of your discussion that would have normally happened in regular Souls threads

>>379132390
Not enough Raven Tengus.

I beat it a few weeks back actually. Overall it's a good game, but lacks everything that made the Souls series good.

>Incredibly bland environments, especially towards the end where you've got shit like smoky battlefields, a somewhat destroyed palace, another burning village, a snowy village, a foggy village, and a somewhat war-torn palace
>The story is completely focused on the war with political names being thrown around constantly and the main character's identity/goals feeling like a side story
>No real unique builds or combat as you progress, you just kinda pick your weapon and stick with it and the same moveset for 90% of the game with little reason to change it up
>NPCs are generally boring, have all their backstory played out melodramatically in picture shows, and have single-minded motivations
>The main villain is super evil with no depth, dies, then you get the true villain behind it all who is maybe a yokai maybe a person, but that you slash him in the eyes and then sail off into the sunset
>All secret challenges/fights are just two bosses you've already fought now together for more hit-and-run combat

The biggest problem for me is that it has little identity beyond the first two or three hours. The initial premise is interesting, with a foreigner fighting through monsters and men to save a childhood spirit companion that keeps him from dying. But then it just spirals into a constant cycle of war drama, bland environments, the same enemies with very little variety, the same weapon types, and a random refocusing of the story at the least minute as if the writer realized suddenly he wasn't writing a history lesson.

It starts strong and then goes nowhere. In Nioh, finding a secret just gets you leveled loot of the same weapon type you've used for hours. There's not much to talk about because the game doesn't give people anything to talk about.

>>379144123
5 weapon types with 3 different stances

so like 15 different play styles in total compared to normal souls style games

thats quite enough

there are builds, but GEAR levels and mods is more important then LEVELS

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>>379143984
>fight system is one of the best in any game i've played

>>379134173
This is why the game isn't talked about anymore. Enemies are actually difficult, gameplay is more advanced than mashing R1 and no one seems to know how to summon for co-op since there's no big glowy text on the floor telling you CLICK HERE TO GET CARRIED LIKE A BITCH.

>>379144339
you talk about the mods themselves and how they cant drastically affect you play style

not the individual weapons themselves

>>379144547
>lel spam izuna drop the gaem

>good
kek

>>379144372
The fact that you think stances are a playstyle and not just a way to access different moves says all that needs to be said about your understanding of this game and the game itself. Maybe the low weapon variety wouldn't stand out if there was anything worth walking about the combat and you didn't beat every enemy by moving back and forward between his whiffed attacks

>>379132390
Oh those first few replies are some stupid ass memeing when the game was barely Souls at all cuz they filled it with their own mechanics.

If I had to seriously guess though, I'd say the more linear and "loot grind" nature of the game attracts a very different audience. The people still playing and talking about the game are crunching numbers to find the best stat modifiers for gear at max level and statistically optimum builds, while people who actually play games to play, played it, beat it, and then was done with it because it doesn't have the same exploration factor as Dark Souls and repeat playthroughs with different builds are a pain because it is far more complex than Dark Souls. In Dark Souls I love making a new character and sprinting through the game, grab a weapon, spray some stats and finish like that. Nioh's Diablo loot and huge array of skills makes that process more tedious and without the simple jump-in-an-play factor.

>>379133109
I thought I dreamt this game up.
>Ever Grace
Time to emulate it and finally beat it after all these years.

>>379144339
The problem is you can use those same arguments for most souls games

>No real unique builds or combat as you progress, you just kinda pick your weapon and stick with it and the same moveset for 90% of the game with little reason to change it up

Pretty similar to Dark Souls where you might change to a different weapon but usually has the same moveset of the weapon type you're building for.

>NPCs are generally boring, have all their backstory played out melodramatically in picture shows, and have single-minded motivations

As compared to dialogue bots with only backstory maybe given in some item descriptions?

>Incredibly bland environments, especially towards the end where you've got shit like smoky battlefields, a somewhat destroyed palace, another burning village, a snowy village, a foggy village, and a somewhat war-torn palace

Souls games have been recycling the same areas for pretty much every game now

>Swampy poison area
>Castle area with humanoid enemies
>Hilly/Forest area
>Rocky mountainous area
>etc.


I really like both sides but to say Nioh has those faults but Souls doesn't is just plain biased.

>>379144636
>lel talk about games i literally never played: the /v/ shitposting fag

No keks, this actually quite tiring and old.

>>379144737
looks like some one has not played since the dlc

>>379144860
same goes to you fag never played this game and just parrot shit from dumb youtubers

>>379144586
>Enemies are actually difficult

This nigga serious?

>>379144751
and souls has a very stupid "gotta make a completely new character to respec"

or make it very annoying to do so

souls is very crappy that way

>>379144339
The lack of build variety kills me. Everything is tied to armor sets, and the bonuses do nothing but add more damage or reduce damage. No real unique effects or attacks anywhere.
On the other hand, it does mean weapons are interchangable for builds. You aren't locked to a specific weapon for anything, an axe works just as well for Living Weapon builds as Dual Swords.

>>379144982
nigga no enemies in other games are hard at all

>>379145052
looks like some one hasnt gotten the yasakani magatama and actually played around with gear

>>379145052
its like you missed out on the dlc patch's more mods to play with thing

>>379145118
I have 10 magatamas, all that does is make it so you can shove two partial gear sets into one build. So what can you do with that? Get two CCD bonuses instead of one? Amazing diversity. Great system that really encourages experimentation.

>>379145229
you're so fucking SLOW fag
>>379145213

what are some ways to farm glory quickly without doing PvP? Just farming revenants?

>>379144887
Either say anything worth saying or refer to>>379143801

>>379144928
>Literally admits it

The difference between me and you is that if i make "ur gaem sux" shitposts i make sure that I'm not talking out of my ass.

>>379145303
do some co-op

hopefully your host wont get oneshotted like a retard

>>379145039
Well, it depends on the game. DS2 had the most freedom with respecs being items which there were multiple of and all upgrade materials were relatively common (I've got like 15 slabs on my current character from trying to get a smelter hammer).

DS3 was a step back with respecs being limited to 5 per playthrough (unless they don't patch the glitch) but more critically, titanite slabs are very limited.

But my point is, Souls isn't so crappy because making a completely new character and getting them up to speed is not nearly the tedious uphill climb that Nioh is, or even Bloodborne is if you factor having to grind the best blood gems again.

>>379145213
The new mods are nothing interesting either
>Minor buffs on perfect block/amrita/affliction
>chance to not lose ki
>faster guns
That's it. Nothing game changing like Souls DLC armor or weapons that completely change vanilla playstyles. You're still just stacking damage until you can mash one skill to clear bosses in seconds.

>>379145078
I literally don't know what this phrase could mean. Are you >>379144009?

>>379144823
Well for weapons, I change shit tons of times throughout Souls games. In DaS1 I used the Longsword, Claymore, Zweihander, then the Black Knight Greataxe. All of which have unique movesets and requirements of the player to remember. In Nioh I used the spear and axe.

As for NPCs, yes, Souls games just give you backstory sometimes. But characters are still more unique, with motivations that are fun or interesting. Compare two constant companions between games. Hanzo and Solaire. Hanzo is generally just single-minded, help his cause. In the end he spares you, but that's the extent of his depth. Solaire wants to help you similarly, but has a goal of finding his own sun, which creates a split where he can die "finding" it or continue on somewhat dejected to help you in the final fight. Souls games have more interesting characters, and their backstory is plainly put but at least not done through melodrama.

Finally, yes areas are recycled. But they are at least more visually interesting. A cavern in Nioh is just a cave with slightly blue crystals. A cavern in DaS is pitch black with coffins used as platforms. A swampy area in Nioh is a rainy temple with some deteriorating trees. A swamp in DaS is outright poisonous with a giant tree looming above and a webbed mountain in the distance. Recycling areas is fine, so long as they're interesting. Nioh's was not. I struggled to get through the final spots, mostly because I'd get lost due to how unremarkable hallways were.

I understand what you're trying to say, but I disagree completely. Nioh fails in all the ways Souls games attracted me. The combat is objectively better, the mechanics are better (I fucking love the stamina shit), and other smaller things are awesome (summonable dead players, repeatable missions/bosses, NG+ allowing you to go back and forth between modes). But it just doesn't succeed in the ways I wanted.

>>379145463
Is this pasta

>>379133365
>ancient Japan
Jesus Christ anon

>>379145381
DS2 which was bad, DS3 which was okay, but respecing in Nioh means you could also nerf your levels if you wanted too

which ment that you could quickly start all over again with one item

>>379145540
Nah, I just typed it up. Apologies for it becoming akin to an essay, just didn't want to do constant greentext quoting. That shit is obnoxious and always ends in petty shitflinging.

>>379145463
yes but it does not mean that Nioh does not stand on its own Merits and you should be looking towards playing other people with the various mysteries of the system in PVP

>>379144887
Just buy the DLC and PS+, then it gets good 40 hours in.

>>379145463
Fair enough, but I suppose the reason it might not be as "interesting" is that Nioh is way less fantasy than Souls is, because unlike Souls, Nioh is partially grounded in reality, it's not much to excuse it but I thought it was enough to focus more on how the levels played out rather than how they looked.

I love the setting and the great combat really helps it stand alongside Souls in my opinion.

>>379145747
then it adds up to hundreds of hours of fun

>>379145795
This is bait.

>>379145730
>yes but it does not mean that Nioh does not stand on its own Merits

Dude, what? Are you trying to say it should stand on its own merits and I should focus on PvP? To which I agree, it does stand on its own merits. Hence why I said in my first post that it's a good game. A game I put tons of hours into. But even if I don't compare it, I still got lost in one of the final areas because of how bland the halls were. I still stuck with only two weapons for the entire game. I still found bosses coming in twos as secret fights to be lame.

As for PvP, I hate that shit. In Souls games and Nioh. Hence why I made no comparison. Couldn't care less for that stuff.

>>379145857
I'm 200 hours in and still having fun

>>379145631
I don't get your point. Are you saying Nioh is better because you can de-level? In Souls outside of 2 you can just not level up beyond the meta SL.

I mean having total freedom to respec in Nioh is pretty good especially when balance patches nerf stuff, but my overall point is that Nioh's systems are a lot more complex and based on building up stuff over time with random gen loot. Dark Souls isn't like that. Dark Souls is closer to like Zelda having fixed equipment that is often at fixed locations, there's a precise mastery to the game that's not based on having randomly rolled armor with % changes to various stats. I'm saying the two games despite being similar, end up having different appeals to different gamers.

>>379145937
>As for PvP, I hate that shit
But anon

fellow man is the greatest game

no AI bot could ever hope to accomplish the fight of an equally minded man

>>379144823
The fact that you are comparing this game to Dark Souls says it all, don't even need to go further even though all of your points are hilariously false.

>>379146043
So basically souls can appeal to speed runners and Nioh can appeal to gear autism?

I think I prefer the latter

>>379134603
Bird or bat aside, I literally beat her a few hours ago. You're just shit m8. Here's a (You)

>>379145783
That's true, can't exactly go too far into crazy shit when you are writing about a real conflict that occurred. Still, I wish they did delve into that fantasy shit a little more. They set the game up in a really interesting way, with the main character losing his spirit companion that keeps him from dying permanently, going through a foreign land of monsters and men to take down an evil alchemist. Mixing the magic with reality was awesome, but after a few hours it becomes like 80% reality and 20% fantasy. The battlefield level really killed me since you just go through smoky wartorn areas, slashing through generic dudes.

I just wish it was a bit more creative is all. Taking a look at history with a fantasy spin is neat, but playing out what is basically a history lesson for a long ass RPG that started with the premise of magic and yokai is a bit of a bummer.

Gameplay is great
Graphics are decent, but everything's bland as hell
Story is absolutely abysmal
PvP is barely playable

Not easy enough for the normies, not pretty enough for the dudebros, not enough waifus for the weebs, no invasion ganking for soulsfags.

But fuck me the combat is beautiful.

>>379145631
>DS2 which was bad

Look at this fucking parrot. No wonder you think so highly of this disappointing turd

>>379132390
It's a typical Koei Tecmo uninspired rip-off similar to Toukiden - take an existing popular series and add a feudal Japanese aesthetic.

>>379146057
Nah, I play these games for two reasons: unique worlds to explore and crazy ass bosses to fight.

Fighting players has neither of those things. If I want to player a PvP focused thing, I'd go play a fighting game or something.

I also get crazy salty when I lose in multiplayer, hence why I avoid that shit like the plague. I know myself, I'm a sore loser. No reason to contribute to the salt and shit skill levels in these games.

>>379146107
Pretty much actually. I have both and I like both for different reasons. The point put forth by the OP is "why is no one talking about it?" and I think they meant "why is no one talking about it HERE?"

And the reason for that I feel is that Nioh's main playerbase that likes to talk about the game are gear autists, and they're all on the subreddit being like "can anyone drop a divine niggerkiller katana with CTA skill in NG+ please?" or "with this set of gear and these modifiers you can have a more optimum build"

While with Souls, there's less of a barrier of entry. You can just pick it up and be like "look at this fucking dragon I smashed it with my +8 dark halberd" "yeah me too, I used a +4 ice hammer and did it naked". The latter kind of fans post more here, while the former would go to specialized places to talk about the game.

>>379146274
>story is abysmal
I liked it. It was simple and bare but it had a nice feel to it. The characters were quaint but not overbearing. Not to mention I had no prior knowledge of this period of Japanese history so that was novel for me(so I might be a little biased).

>>379146274
>But fuck me the combat is beautiful.

It really Really REALLY isn't. Stop with this fucking meme. It could have been, but it's not.

>>379146532
This. DS1 outperforms it in combat in every way other than LE WACKY CUHRAYZEE SPEED

>>379146532
>t. Mid Stance Katana spammer

>Oh hey, I'm playing a real guy that became some kind of samurai thing? That's neat.
>He lost his childhood spirit, gotta get that shit.
>Description says the spirit may have been more than a friend, I wonder where that's going.
>Oh, they're talking about Oda Nobunaga.
>Oh, the descriptions of this area talk about what he did.
>Oh, here's a boss that was his wife.
>Oh, here's a guy who betrayed him.
>Oh, here's a black samurai that's cool but just talks about Nobunaga.
>Oh, the evil alchemist's plan is to resurrect Nobunaga.
>Oh, Nobunaga is a boss.

Christ, I know it's appropriate considering the time period they chose but goddamn. I always heard that Japan had an obsession with the guy, I never realized it till now. The story basically becomes a retelling of the aftermath of Nobunaga's shittery after a few hours.

I will admit though, it was cool how after fighting him he basically just goes, "Nah, fuck this. I'm nobodies bitch."

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>>379146431
I take my salt, put it on my humble pie and continue trucking man

just dont take matches personally and do your best

>>379146616
>DS1

KYS

Don't you dare "This" my post ever again.

>>379146642
Thank you for partially proving my point.

>>379146831
Nah, like I said, I mostly just don't enjoy it. The salt is just an inevitable result of me losing to people. I just generally dislike PvP and play these games for the worlds and bosses.

So yeah, PvP has no bearing on a game's quality to me. I could take it or leave it.

>>379146843
>Don't you dare "This" my post ever again.
Oh so you have shit taste just as bad as that pleb.
Summer is here again with kids like you.

>>379146802
it pretty much takes place on the second half of sengoku before japan goes ALL PORTS ARE CLOSED

except for one for the dutch

after all of nioh, Japan pretty much goes to an era of piece where they solidify their cultural identity that carries on until today

>>379146802
This reminds me when they compare (implicitly) Nobunaga to Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan in the first Onimusha. Like how delusional can you be?

>>379146936
I get that. Like I said, it does take place during that special aftermath of Nobunaga's bullshit.

But goddamn, I just never came into contact with their obsession with him. I knew some games just were non-stop on that topic, but Nioh is the first time I realized how much they focus on him. He did a fucking number on their history.

>>379146843
You're really going to argue that Nioh's combat is shallow or shit yet say Souls is good when I can say the exact same thing and just use any applicable long/straight sword for every game and beat it easily.

>>379146915
How about you circle strafe backstab the Return button and take your """"superior"""" taste with you?

>>379147145
probably because Japan is Tsundere on their love for Nobunaga

they know he was right on some points, but he was a complete asshole about it

>>379147235
Go spam roll off a cliff you fucking pleb. You're clearly severely retarded.

>>379147145
He's like their General Sherman but on a scale that was far more prominent for their history.

The combat was too tight for its own good and the damage calculation trivializes the whole game. people just got it down to a science.
also discussion of good games always dies out early. /v/ largely thrives on disliking games.

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>>379147153
>You're really going to argue that Nioh's combat is shallow or shit yet say Souls is good

Who are you even talking to?

>>379147351
clearly all this shit posting on this thread is just for that

btw your knowledge about the game is SHIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxHnK8Ab-JY

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>people say Nioh has no interesting lore
>tfw it got me into Japanese history and its easily more engaging than ad libbing Souls "lore" for years and years

Nioh only really fucked up with the inventory system and lack of enemy variety, it shouldve been more Ninja Gaiden than Diablo

>>379147480
nerfed a bit in 1.10

you now need some severe gear building autism to do that shit now

I just started Way of the Demon and goddamn, I feel like I'm playing the game for the very first time again. Enemies are slapping me around left and right.

In endgame WotD builds, do people tend to just pump whichever stat corresponds to their primary weapon? How much Body and Heart is necessary to avoid getting one-shotted?

>>379147548
The funny thing is that it's not even Diablo. It's like the low level gameplay of Diablo where items are just stat boosts and not the high level where items can drastically change abilities and playstyle.

>>379147638
try to look into Todo + heavy armor + weight lightning mods

>>379132390
>play the last beta
>that fucking PS2 era feel
>that nice combat
>that ki pulse mechanic
>only few wepon types but thats okay, its a beta
full game releases:
>all fucking weapon types were in the beta
>realize enemy variety is fucking shit - most of em were in a FUCKING beta
>level design is meh except few levels (that house full of ninjas as switching floors with ceiling was cool af)
>main character talks so little they could have go with custom character which would help with immersion, because william is so fucking shallow
>only few cool bosses like ice bitch and giant frog smoking weed

i gave up after big skeleton boss

>>379147670
there ARE really rare mods that can only be gotten by drops/forge that CAN focus your abilities though

>>379147748
meme opinion

>>379147748
big skeleton boss can be confusing but easy once you really know how

>>379147351
>the damage calculation trivializes the whole game
This. Way of the Demon becomes less about skill and more about stacking damage multipliers and buffs so you can quickly mash out kills and speedrun bosses. It's a powergamer's wet dream, but it definitely makes NG+ very boring.

>>379147670
play the game before shitposting

>>379132390
still on my backlog

>>379147850
but its still not necessary to do so

at that point you can make do if you properly use your ninjitsu/onmyo items well enough

What's generally better overall, Omyo magic or Ninja shit? I kinda dabbled in both playing through the main game but it'd probably be good to focus on one for postgame and dlc.

>>379148220
for postgame/dlc

you use both

>>379147839
i defeated him but had no desire to continue
>>379147806
>meme opinion
in what manner really?
weapon variety is shit
enemy variety is fucking shit
>humanoid enemies all feel the same
>big onis with lmao2kat,axe and katana and their more spiked variants
>bigger onis with tongues
>raven oni
>spiders
>flying heads and banjo playing summoning faggots
>dude slimes lmao

only the level design is a matter of personal taste

>>379133109
I think non souls from software stuff have their own general.

>>379148220
Omnyo magic and Ninjutsu are both pretty gamebreaking but if you're looking for the more "fun" option then ninjutsu is probably the better of the two.

>there is currently no thread on [INSERT GAME HERE] so therefore [INSERT GAME HERE] is shit

Boil those who use this line of argument alive in oil.

>>379148262
only the enemy variety is lacking, but they're still more complex than anything in most action games

>weapon variety is shit
compared to? each weapon has 3 stances and many distinct skills
>william is boring and shallow
just as boring and shallow as your oc CaC would be
>only few cool bosses
to you

>>379148464
>only the enemy variety is lacking, but they're still more complex than anything in most action games

From what fucking planet are you posting? You don't play action games do you?

>compared to?
Most action games actually, let alone action RPGs

>just as boring and shallow as your oc CaC would be

That's the point retard, he's not an OC character, he's such a shit protagonist that he could be easily replaced with a literal who.

>>379148464
>visible stamina bar on enemies you can deplete
wew so complex
too bad once you meet a fucking oni with an axe for 100th time it feels so cheap
>distinct skills
maybe, but the difference between 3 parry techniques that put enemy behind you is only in animation
also
oc character is better for self insert and immersion purposes
william feels very lacking in personality

>game has a few mostly minor flaws
>WTF THIS TRASH IS FUCKING LE UNPLAYABLE GARBAGE

>>379149097
welcome to /v/

>>379132390
The surge killed it.

>>379149451
lol

>>379149097
It has several major flaws

>>379132390
Because aside from some decent depth to combat, the game was bland as hell and mind-numbingly repetitive.

>>379149451
>5 hours
>5 bosses
>nothing left to do

does speed running really attract this much autism

>>379149674
so just the same as souls games?

>>379149451
the hype for this game died as fast as it appeared. I literally didn't know the surge existed until a week before launch and a week after no one talks about
it's like it never happened

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>All those reused assets from Ninja Gaiden but made worse

wew lad

>>379132390
>Story

Like others have said it's just a history lesson. Unlike the Souls games where the story is intentionally left vague and open ended, Nioh has a story that's basically a glorified wikipedia entry for William Adams. There's nothing to speculate or argue about it, no way to interpret the story differently and discuss exactly what happened because it's all laid out for you.

>Online

PvP in Nioh, while pretty fun, is definitely an afterthought at best. Severe balance issues, and an overall lack of proper reward systems for attempting PvP (like Covenants did in Souls games) lead to a lot of disinterest. No invasions and no Auto-Summons style PvP mean that you have to go out of your way to participate (and by nature just sit around and wait instead of continuing your progress), but it also removes a lot of the risk of playing online.

Co-op also suffers for similar reasons. It's a lengthy process to summon other players for help or just to dick around with, so a lot of people just don't bother with it.

> No open, connected world.
Instead of just having you drop in and have access to the entire world, it's broken up between missions, and the only way to revisit old locations is to go back and replay the missions again (which also is a main reason why online has all but stagnated)

Overall it's a good game. I'd even go as far as to say it's a decent souls clone (at least better than Lords of the Fallen could hope to be). But it's real flaws are that it misses all the key parts of what gave the Souls games their lasting power, which means that it managed to get overshadowed the moment the next "big new game" stepped into town.

If Team Ninja is gunning for Nioh 2, all they really need to do is change at least the PvP and the world design to make it a worthy sequel. Giving the players some type of incentive to go back and PvP/co-op is the biggest way to guarantee success.

>>379150393
more like there is no "story" bits to autistcally make your head canon feel special

>>379132390
It's level design isn't that great, and theres no variety in locale or enemies. I also personally find the controls to be overly complicated compared to souls games

>>379151265
>PvP in Nioh, while pretty fun, is definitely an afterthought at best. Severe balance issues, and an overall lack of proper reward systems for attempting PvP (like Covenants did in Souls games) lead to a lot of disinterest. No invasions and no Auto-Summons style PvP mean that you have to go out of your way to participate (and by nature just sit around and wait instead of continuing your progress), but it also removes a lot of the risk of playing online.


it has seen a major balancing update and scaling toward pvp that levels mean little and gear and quick item set up mean far more then level


the only things OP in pvp right now is 1/2sword iai and Saika bow builds

other wise PVP is pretty balance

I assume saving level 150 +1 gear with soul matching discount for later isn't really worth it because I'll find much higher + gear on WotD?

>>379151563
well if you've made forged something, they'll always start at 0+ or 1+

>>379150152
Let's see... Souls has:
>Beautifully crafted architecture and geography
>Excellent level designs
>Varied enemies
>Varied areas

None of which Nioh has. Don't get me wrong; I got plenty of enjoyment out of Nioh, but it doesn't hold a candle to souls overall. If you thought the world in souls games was bland, you might be missing a... I dunno... soul?

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Nothing that made Nioh interesting was from them taking insperation from Souls.

The good parts of Nioh just made it blatantly clear they're better off making pure action games like Ninja Gaiden, the RPG elements add nothing to the game, they just bring it down.

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>>379132390
>tfw didn't fall for the millionth sonybro shill a game for months before release which turns out to be shit episode

>>379151614
>>Beautifully crafted architecture and geography
there is also mudhuts and poo designs

>>Excellent level designs
only in 1, everywhere else not so much

>Varied enemies
ooh boy more dumb ass zombies and armored dudes

>>379151708
>mudhuts and poo designs
... And so?
>only in 1, everywhere else not so much
Demons, Das3, and bloodborne all have excellent level design. Only the 2nd one is lacking in this regard, but even DaS2 had far more interesting levels than anything in Nioh.
>ooh boy more dumb ass zombies and armored dudes
You seem to have a selective memory and don't remember all the beasts and strange creatures. Nioh, on the other hand, reuses the same few enemies over and over and over and over. You cannot possibly think it has decent enemy variety, certainly not compared to souls.

>>379132617
>the story is just a glorified history lesson.
I only played the Alpha and Beta.
Is yokai and ogres Authentic Nippon History like Giant Enemy Crabs?

>>379151614
Nioh has great architecture too, you just don't notice it because you're biased towards euro design. Level designs are dull at worst, and fantastic at best. But generally consistently good.

Souls does not have enemy variety anymore than Nioh. You primarily fight hollows, dogs, and big knights. giving them a different weapon or color occasionally isn't much in the way of actual variety. the only increase in enemy variety souls has is the occasional 1 or 2 enemies in offshoot areas like the Armored Boars and Crystal Golems. and most enemies have a whopping 3 attacks at most

>>379132390

Nioh is absolute dogshit and here is why:

+the only thing it does decent is the combat, it isn't better than Soulsborne combat, just different, they give you too much power because they want you to experience a different playstyle, so the combat is the only interesting thing and it isn't even better than Soulsborne, just different.

- dogshit level design, inferior to all Soulsborne.
- dogshit world design, inferior to all Soulsborne, even the fragmented world of DeS is better than the dogshit level select of Nioh.
- dogshit soundtrack, inferior to all Soulsborne.
- dogshit art style, inferior to all Soulsborne.
- dogshit enemy variety, inferior to all Soulsborne.
- dogshit enemy AI, inferior to all Soulsborne.
- dogshit bosses, inferior to all Soulsborne.
- dogshit weapon variety, inferior to all Soulsborne.
- dogshit playstyle variety, inferior to all Soulsborne.


DO. NOT. WASTE. MONEY. ON. THIS. PIECE. OF. SHIT.

From Software is the only company that makes good Soulsborne games, only buy their products, pirate/ignore everything else.

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>>379132995

>>379152114
nice bait, I'll use that to start the next nioh thread

>>379152114
And here I thought Shills were just a /v/ myth.

>>379152126
>>379152114
wow this is great

just seeing both of these post at the same time

gg

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>sunk 200 hours in my first file playing a classic 1kat using honorrabu Samurai with warrior of the west set and being a visitor
>decide to go full Ninja, always A agility, Kusarigama and bombs
>could probably sink another 200 because of how fun it is

Fucking help lads

>>379132390
The game was pretty bland. People hyped it as being the next dark souls when it was nothing like it at all

>>379152126
maybe so, but also explicitly true thus far. soulsfags and /v/edditors only like what they're told to and only play what they're comfortable with. nothing else is given a chance, and if it has flaws (which every souls game is packed to the brim with as well) they go apeshit at it

>>379152108
I love Japanese architecture, actually, but have you not noticed that they copy and paste the same buildings again and again? None of them have the detail or care put into them that souls architecture does.

And you're simply wrong about the enemy variety. Don't you find it telling that so many people independently make the same criticism of Nioh? You don't think there's something to that?

>>379152231
>people hypes it as being the next dark souls
no, only you did and your favorite youtubers did

>>379152231
Well you see that's because people are idiots.

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Why do sonybros shill constantly and then forget about games straight away so fucking much?

>>379152336
I didn't say Nioh has good enemy variety, I'm saying that implying souls games are any better is blatant favoritism

>japanese witcher ripoff
>worth talking about

How many of you fuckers here actually played Onimusha? I'm guessing not many

>people complaining about the diablo-style loot system when you can just forge and buy everything you want anyway

Really gets the noggin joggin. I guarantee the people who made these complaints never got past Hino-Enma

>>379152308
Personally, I'm happy I got to play Nioh, but I'm not simply going to ignore its flaws. I would like to see what they do next. If they make another game like this, I hope they address the issues that SO many people bring up.

>>379146802
>I always heard that Japan had an obsession with the guy
Keep in mind that it's a Koei game, they're massively obsessed with Nobunaga to the point that they've made like fifteen games all about him. Their whole team is retardedly obsessed with Romance of the Three Kingdoms, which I guess makes sense considering they have to churn out another Dynasty Warriors every two years.

>>379152429
Souls games are better though, specifically in that regard. Much better.

>>379152629
not individually they aren't

>>379152221
not to mention the other weapons, though Dual blades has that cool timed attack that can put serious pressure, and Sign of the cross being OP right now

Odachi is pretty strong too if you understand mid stance switching moves it has and how you can apply it to dodge attack chains that would make the attack rate of medium speed weapons jealous

>>379152516
>>>people complaining about the diablo-style loot system when you can just forge and buy everything you want anyway
not to mention reforge to get most of the good stuff anyway

most of the loot/forge only star mods arent really worth it with the current exception of dual blades sign of the cross one

-ps4 exclusive
-most soulsfags dislike it because normalfags are uncomfortable around new things

be glad OP. A few comfy nioh threads are better than daily souls threads whete everyone flongs shit. Mioh beta/alpha/lct threads were the best threads on /v/ since a long ass time

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>developers are actually gutting their game to cater to pvp faggots

>muh Souls
>muh Souls
>muh Souls
>muh Souls

And this is why no one talks about this game. Because it tried to cater to these mongoloids instead of being it's own thing.

>>379153058
found kusarigama blade spinner

>>379132390
Majority of /v/ hates PS4 exclusive games in general.

The all of 5 enemys you fight really wore me down after 30 hours. Once you know how to beat a guy it makes it easy, predictable and boring. Seriously how many times can you kill the zombie that scuttles like a crab guy and still have fun? my limit was at 50 or so.

>>379153075
it IS its own thing though

Souls did not invent stamina based action combat

>>379153127
the same way people play ARPGs normally son

>>379153075
no, it's because they THOUGHT the game was catering to them

>>379153137
Yes, just play dumb, that will show me.

>>379153162
It literally did dumbass. Go watch footage of the first beta if you weren't born yet at the time. .

>>379153274
>Yes, just play dumb, that will show me.
souls fags everyone.

>>379153115
i'm not mad about kusarigama but what they did to awakening

>>379153392
as if the game wasnt easy enough already man, its almost nothing other then some itch that you COULD be doing while blocking/defending

>>379132390
It's not good enough to talk about for very long, it was only really talked about as "look at this other game only Sonyfriends get" until even Sonyfriends realized that it was a garbage souls knock off.

>>379152516
Did you ever fucking play Onimusha? Because this has approximately 2% of that. It's set in feudal Japan and Nobunaga is in it. That's it.

>>379153316
If you can't see the numerous design decisions that are clearly based on the souls games, I would question your ability for pattern recognition.

>>379153161
But this isn't diablo dude no matter how much you meme about the loot system. That being said the bosses are interesting. But not enough to make me slog through the areas, there's nothing interesting in them, all the items you can pick up are shit and the map design is terrible. I wish there was just like a boss mode, the only time i have fun is with the sub missions where you fight a boss.

>>379153521
yet its not the whole picture
>>379153535
its not JUST diablo, it also has a reforge system too

>>379152918
>Mioh beta/alpha/lct threads were the best threads on /v/ since a long ass time

Yeah no shit, it's like everyone had high hopes for the game and it hadn't release yet to shit all over them.

>>379153521
so just the ui and kind of the shrines
ok good argument

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>>379153316
>s-souls f-fags

KYS
Y
S

Don't actually kill yourself, just stop being a massive faggot. You can do it, i believe in you

>>379153564
I don't see your point, i really don't think it's fair to compare a game from a completely different genre to another game with the same issues when speaking about its flaws,

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>>379132390
Typical shill campaigning.

>hype up game before release
>spam social media (including /v/) with how great this game is
>release date hits
>rake in the cash (+XX% of sales thanks to active shilling)
>drop all shill operations
>game drops from the face of the earth

pic related, he invented modern day shilling for video games with Borderlands 1

>>379154051
You're a fucking retard. There was genuine interest for this game, the threads were filled with actual discussion and not just "Are you going to buy Okatsu's game? XD"

Get out of you /v/ echo chamber bubble

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>>379132390
1)It's a new IP targeting a relatively niche audience
2)Came out in the best & most busy quarter of gaming of all time (that is Q1 2017)
3)PS4 exclusive in a /NintendoPC/ board

Are you retarded? Of course you won't find much discussion about it here.

Also not every game lends itself to long-term discussion. NioH is a fun action game, that's it. There's no complex plot to pull people into making threads long after release like Souls games, it's just based on typical japanese history but with its own quirky twists.

>>379154253
I honestly can't tell if this is bait or not, this board is just that far gone.

>>379154464
Let me help you: It's not bait.

>>379154464
what's bait about it?

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>>379133791
>better bosses than souls
no
>better voice acting
yeh probably but who the fuck cares about VA (real nerds only)
>better combat
yeh i guess
>better animations
debatable
>better everything overall
KEK no, the ONLY thing going for nioh is its combat, every other aspect of that game is fucking shit

>currently selling it on local ebay clone cause i finished it and never want to touch it again

>>379154537
>>379154554

Underages please leave. You shouldn't even be playing this violent video game.

>>379135497
Yeah, they just don't have the same "feel"

I have no interest in Surge... maybe I'll wait for some heavy discount or something but right now I have no interest

As for Code Vein, I need to see more gameplay first. Really hope they shows gameplay videos at E3.

>>379154954
Could you just get to the point already? Or is there none and you just feel like shitposting for the 3rd time?

I mean, feel free to shitpost again, but before that just state your point, THEN shitpost.

>>379154954
nothing in that post is inaccurate. if you mean the Q1 2017 part then yeah that's a little much. still the best time for games in a very long time

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>>379133691
>simple power fantasy for white people

>>379155223
>a little

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>>379154221
Where are the threads then, shill?

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>>379155570
Post a better quarter then, I'm waiting.

I mean, it should be REALLY easy to find one, right? Since I'm so wrong about it and all~

>>379155570
name a better quarter in the last 2 decades. note that one single good release doesn't make the quarter good

>>379155736
we've had them already, and don't need to drag shit on. as bad as you wanted Nioh to fail your fantasy won't come true because it sold great already and still has plenty of players that don't need to shitpost here